Civil Liberties Groups Plead With Biden To Stop Persecuting Julian Assange
Plus: Oklahoma cosmetologists fight insane licensing requirement, Australia doesn't understand how search engines work, and more...

Two dozen civil liberties and human rights groups are pleading with President Joe Biden to make things right with journalist Julian Assange. "We, the undersigned press freedom, civil liberties, and international human rights advocacy organizations, write today to share our profound concern about the ongoing criminal and extradition proceedings relating to Julian Assange, the founder of Wikileaks, under the Espionage Act and the Computer Fraud and Abuse Act," the letter opens.
It is signed by the American Civil Liberties Union (ACLU), Amnesty International USA, the Electronic Frontier Foundation, the First Amendment Coalition, Human Rights Watch, the Knight First Amendment Institute, PEN America, Reporters Without Borders, and more.
The groups urge Biden to give up on the Trump administration's appeal of a United Kingdom court decision denying the United States' request to have Assange forcibly returned to the U.S.
They argue that the prosecution and extradition attempt is "a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad," since the "criminal" conduct Assange is accused of "is conduct that journalists engage in routinely—and that they must engage in in order to do the work the public needs them to do."
"Some of the charges included in the indictment turn entirely on Mr. Assange's decision to publish classified information," their letter points out. "News organizations frequently and necessarily publish classified information in order to inform the public of matters of profound public significance."
The Assange situation "will present the Biden administration with an early test" of whether he plans to carry on the Trump administration's hostility to journalists and press freedom, suggests Jameel Jaffer at Just Security. While "Assange is a complicated figure, and he seems to have alienated basically everyone," there is still "near-universal agreement among human rights, civil liberties, and press freedom organizations that the case against him poses a major threat to press freedom not just here in the United States but around the world."
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The Institute for Justice (IJ) fights for Oklahoma cosmetologists:
Oklahoma wants to put Shazia Ittiq out of business because her eyebrow threaders don't have cosmetology training; training that doesn't cover threading. IJ's Marie Miller writes in @TheOklahoman_ about why we're standing up for this #smallbusiness owner: https://t.co/SuZCZASh7y?
— Institute for Justice (@IJ) February 8, 2021
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Google is threatening to leave Australia if an insane new draft law requiring search engines to pay for content they link to becomes law. "If the code becomes law, Google would have no real choice but to stop providing search in Australia," Mel Silva, managing director of Google Australia and New Zealand, told Australian lawmakers last month. Many in the media—the people this dumb bill was designed to protect, supposedly—are crying foul.
"It would have a significant impact on our ability to connect our content to our audience," Neil Ackland of Junkee Media told The Financial Times.
Ackland warned the code, which government sources expect will be enacted within weeks, could "potentially be fatal" for small publishers such as Junkee, which rely on Google and Facebook to drive 75 per cent of traffic to their websites….
Both [Facebook and Google] say the code is unworkable in its current form and argue they derive little financial benefit from displaying news.
Google has warned it would break the way its search engine operates and undermine a fundamental principle of the internet by forcing the company to pay to provide links to news websites. Facebook has said it would remove all news, local and international, from its platform in Australia if the code is enacted.
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— Molly Davis (@_Molly_Davis_) February 9, 2021
• Read an excerpt from John McWhorter's new book The Elect: Neoracists Posing as Antiracists and their Threat to a Progressive America.
• A new bill in New York state would stop putting people behind bars for parole violations. "Instead of having punishment-based system, we have an incentive-based system," Emily NaPier Singletary, co-founder of the advocacy group Unchained, told Spectrum News. "We use earned time credits. For every thirty days a person goes without violating their parole, they earn thirty days off their parole supervision period."
• New York City's prison population keeps going up despite Mayor Bill de Blasio bragging about the opposite.
In April, Mayor Bill de Blasio was out cynically bragging about decreasing the population of Rikers, a drop enabled initially by bail reform he vigorously opposed & then rolled back. Now there's 1700 more people caged. Vast majority Black or Brown. During a pandemic. Despicable. https://t.co/tJ9yWWvI6H
— Scott Hechinger (@ScottHech) February 9, 2021
• Against the European Union's proposed Digital Markets Act.
• "The changing face of celebrity and the rise of cancel culture is intimidating journalists into uniformity," writes British journalist Eleanor Halls.
• Big changes may be coming to Twitter.
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New York City's prison population keeps going up despite Mayor Bill de Blasio bragging about the opposite.
Trump has been a bad influence. Hopefully this doesn't spread to other politicians.
He lied, but not with a mean tweet, so completely within respectable norms.
Those tweets were so very, very mean.
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NYC's prison population hasn't decreased. It's still a little less than 19 million.
The People's Republic of NJ is in second place, with ~8.6MM internees.
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"We use earned time credits. For every thirty days a person goes without violating their parole, they earn thirty days off their parole supervision period."
Ha, yeah, that will make it past the various incarceration interests.
Read an excerpt from John McWhorter's new book The Elect: Neoracists Posing as Antiracists and their Threat to a Progressive America.
If I fainted just reading the title, how can I possibly making through an excerpt.
Interesting that ENB is pimping a book about the best way forward for progressivism.
Why is that interesting? She is a scumbag progressive
Not “ha ha” interesting.
hedging bets between the gulag and woodchipper
That's because she is a "progressive" leftist. Nothing surprising about that. Nor about a book laying the dogmatic groundwork for a Night of the Long Knives among leftists, if the title is anything to go by.
Because John McWhorter has opinions on racism that are worth reading?
"New York City's prison population keeps going up despite Mayor Bill de Blasio bragging about the opposite."
Outrageous. Just think of all that highly-skilled labor going to waste behind bars.
Perhaps billionaires like Reason.com's benefactor Charles Koch should fund politicians in NYC who will implement the #EmptyThePrisons agenda.
#BillionairesKnowBest
https://twitter.com/EricMMatheny/status/1359136170278592518?s=19
We’re about to put a former President on trial where a Senator - not a Supreme Court Justice - will play both judge and juror. All this from within a militarized Capitol where a 78 year old puppet rules by executive decree. Any other country and the UN would be on the ground.
Oops, thread fail!
We’re about to put a former President on trial where a Senator – not a Supreme Court Justice – will play both judge and juror.
He's probably really hoping to get to play executioner some day soon.
UNITY!!!
"For every thirty days a person goes without violating their parole, they earn thirty days off their parole supervision period."
"For every thirty days a person goes without violating the law, they earn thirty days off their cellphone/internet supervision period."
Except, of course, that no personal communications ever go unsupervised.
Google is threatening to leave Australia if an insane new draft law requiring search engines to pay for content they link to becomes law.
If you can't afford to pay news outlets a living wage when you link to them (and their advertisers, presumably) then you shouldn't be in business.
So when it comes to content, those news outlets are suddenly no longer private companies that can do what they want?
Come on, in a properly managed society no person or enterprise can do what they want. What else is government for?
Biden continues to show why he deserved all those Reason.com staff endorsements.
Charles Koch earned $583,000,000 yesterday.
He's already up over $2.5 billion this year. That puts him more than halfway to recovering the $5 billion he lost in 2020 because of Drumpf's disastrous high-tariff / low-immigration policies.
#GetReadyForTheKochComeback
That's great news. The poor old dear, how he suffered.
This also means fatter brown envelopes for the Reasonistas, so winning all around.
They argue that the prosecution and extradition attempt is "a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad..."
I'm sure Biden will be just as protective of free press rights as Obama was.
I’m sure Biden will be just as protective of free press rights as Obama was.
As long as he doesn't send mean tweets he can prosecute as many whistle blowers and send the DOJ after journalists to try and strong arm them into giving up their sources all he wants.
Returning to normalcy...
Oklahoma wants to put Shazia Ittiq out of business because her eyebrow threaders don't have cosmetology training; training that doesn't cover threading.
Training requirements aren't about the training. Duh.
If you're skilled enough to threat eyebrows, then you can damn sure pilot a 747!
/Biden Logic.
Are all eyebrows threatening, or just the bushy ones?
Eugene levey hardest hit
Google is threatening to leave Australia if an insane new draft law requiring search engines to pay for content they link to becomes law. ... Facebook has said it would remove all news, local and international, from its platform in Australia if the code is enacted.
Emphases added. So, is it "content" or "news"? It may be amusing to see the Aussies' "legal" definitions of these terms.
I wonder how this would read if Assange had leaked internal Democratic party documents instead?
White supremacy. Terrorism. Two systems of justice.
He’d have suicided himself long ago.
No, Mac: he'd have been the victim of an attempted armed robbery that went awry.
Though if you can pull off making it look like a suicide...
Suicided himself. Ha!
Distraught over the loss from the attempted robbery gone awry both Assange and the robber agreed to a mutual suicide pact to avoid the embarrassment.
OMG!! Mayor Bill de Blasio lied!!
Inconceivable!
I do not think that word means what you think it means.
Heard at a random NY nursing home, last March: "My name is Lord Mayor Bill de Blasio, prepare to die."
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9240201/The-hipster-shotgun-Kalashnikov-unveils-gadget-gun-MP-155-Ultima-aimed-Gen-Z-customers.html
Not for me, but it's kinda cool..
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February.8.2021 at 5:59 pm
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February.8.2021 at 4:46 pm
Day stow dee ewekshun! Waaaaah!
"Google has warned it would break the way its search engine operates and undermine a fundamental principle of the internet by forcing the company to pay to provide links to news websites"
NelsonMuntz.mp3
Private company for me but not for thee.
Journalists* are a protected class that have special privileges.
* As long as they’re not reporting negative news about a Democrat candidate for president.
Private company for me but not for thee.
Writers didn't invent language. They can't own words.
I will pay this again. Maybe if you s it enough times you won't ignore it.
Last week you said something I found interesting. I know you won't read it and just "flag. refresh." Because Mormons refuse to admit they could be wrong. But it's worth a shot.
"You really need to read the room, dude. Nobody responds to your schtick."
Hahahaha! I'm proud that the far right whack jobs on here don't like me. It's better than being praised by far right whack jobs.
The thing that makes me know that this forum has a lot of scumbags is that when I criticize you and other mormons everyone insults me and calls me a bigot. However, when Red rocks says something homophobic, someone says something anti-Semitic about George Soros, or someone says something racist there's no criticism. I get criticized for pointing out anti semitism(I got called an anti semite for saying I didn't like Bibi Netanyahu. Most my Jewish friends are anti semitic according to some. people on here).
I read the room fine and it's a bunch of far right, wanna be fascist, Trump loving bigots.
People can't control their skin color, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. People can control what church they go to. You choose to go to an evil one Chuck. That's how I know you're a scumbag. Also you seemed more concerned with a Wendy's being vandalized than rioters trying to disrupt certifying the electoral college. Mormons are fascist by nature so I'm not suprised you support treason, but it was interesting to learn you're a fatty since you were so concerned about Wendy's.
Fat fascist Mormon fuck.
Flag. Refresh.
I knew it.
You're a coward
Flag. Refresh.
Go be drunk somewhere else sarcasmic.
Shorter KILLALLREDNECKS:
blah blah blah I'm a bigot blah blah blah
Why don't you call out any of racist or homophobic comments for being bigot?
Is it because you only care about religious bigotry?
People can't choose their race or orientation, but can choose their church.
You're the real bigot bible humper
"LibErTayRIunZ R dA rEEl BiG GuTZ!"
Where did I say that? Chuck isn't a libertarian anyway. Mormons are big government social conservatives.
I don't claim to be a libertarian. It seems most people who claim to be libertarians don't care about civil liberties and just want lower taxes. I'm sympathetic to lower taxes, but Im fortunate enough to where I can live comfortably while paying high taxes. It seems a lot of "libertarians" don't even care about civil liberties.
The hicklib faggot's drug-addled haze apparently resulted in him forgetting what he typed an hour earlier.
Private company for me but not for thee.
So take over the Australian Gov't on behalf/in defense of Google? You realize there are places where Google searches are already more heavily censored, right?
I'd assert that you're really just abjectly whoring for Google, but whores get paid.
https://twitter.com/GarbyJooman3/status/1358729626290319363?s=19
He was able to replicate the exact same photo from almost three months prior. Same people were in the same seats too.
Astonishing coincidence!
Honestly, is there a single thing about this Presidency that isn’t a complete fucking fraud?
145k likes for a blatant lie.
The propaganda over the next four years is going to be glorious.
Watch every single news organization ignore this stuff as hard as they can.
Could you imagine if Trump's people had done this?
Clown World is right. At least in old school portrayals of dystopias, the overwhelming opposition was at least competent.
This is like something you'd see when playing Paranoia. I guess that's cause for hope?
"Fox News Media moved late Monday to dismiss a $2.7 billion defamation suit by voting-machine company Smartmatic USA Corp., arguing that claims of election fraud by President Trump and his legal team were newsworthy and that the network’s coverage of them was protected by the First Amendment."
https://www.wsj.com/articles/fox-news-moves-to-dismiss-defamation-suit-by-voting-machine-company-11612876328?
Won't somebody please do something to save us from the First Amendment?
I've known Reason to stoop to defending the rights of terrorists, the bigoted cartoons of Charlie Hebdo, and a death row inmate who murdered a pregnant woman to steal her fetus, but I'm not sure they could limbo so low as to defend the First Amendment rights of Fox News.
Fox News is just too icky.
The Reasonista are really hoping that they shoot them last...
Except for Sullum, he's angling for a dacha and his own apartment in NYC.
With ENB in a sexy maid costume?
Noooo!
I gotta admit, I'd be jealous. Not because I find ENB particularly attractive but the idea of having her make two sandwiches every day for lunch, one for eating and one for rubbing her face in, sounds appealing.
Maybe tweet pics with the message, "This is what happens when you prioritize SJW 'feminist' journolism above liberty." for the proles. Hopefully inspire actual female journalists to do the job right.
A judge should be impartial. Who the Democrats chose to preside over the impeachment is not. Leahy, from a month ago:
Nixon committed crimes nowhere near as serious as those by President Trump, and yet Nixon knew he had to resign. Trump’s crimes trying to overturn our elections and openly instigating a riot causing deaths warrant his immediate resignation or removal.
Pres. Trump has not simply failed to uphold his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, which itself would be sufficient to warrant impeachment and removal. He has emerged as the *greatest threat* to the Constitution and to American democracy in a generation. … I hope that Leader McConnell and Senate Republicans will stand with our constitutional republic, as did 10 Republicans in the House today. For the good of the country, he must lead his party in voting to convict Pres. Trump and to prevent him from holding future office.
So the judge in this case has already determined guilt. Odd that a libertarian magazine doesn't seem to see an issue in this.
https://www.dailywire.com/news/schumer-impeachment-trial-will-be-fair-and-honest
An older piece about how Leahy has often been involved in the most partisan attacks in the Senate. He was one of the attack dogs against Bork. Hardly an impartial person.
https://www.nationalreview.com/2004/07/nastiest-democrat-jay-nordlinger/
What's a kangaroo court without the kangaroos?
openly instigating a riot causing deaths
Amazing how the media have stuck with the narrative even when the lefty bastion of CNN has let the mask slip.
https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/02/politics/brian-sicknick-charges/index.html
According to one law enforcement official, medical examiners did not find signs that the officer sustained any blunt force trauma, so investigators believe that early reports that he was fatally struck by a fire extinguisher are not true.
The only people who died at the Capitol on Jan 6, were killed by the police directly or indirectly. Change my mind.
White Knight/DOL hardest hit.
He needed some sort of violence to justify his narrative and the coming purge here in the comments.
Of course the Democrats don't need any excuse for what they're about to do. They'll just do it and the media (including Reason) will purposefully ignore it.
They were still claiming he was beaten to death just yesterday.
Seems to me they’re still claiming it today.
Exactly!
https://www.foxnews.com/us/capitol-riot-brian-sicknick-death-investigation-no-charges-autopsy-results-pending
"His eldest brother, Ken Sicknick, told ProPublica in an interview published Jan. 8 that Brian Sicknick had texted him on the night on Jan. 6 to tell him he had been pepper-sprayed but felt fine. He told the outlet his brother was dead by the next night, after suffering a stroke.
"He texted me last night and said, ‘I got pepper-sprayed twice,’ and he was in good shape," Ken Sicknick told the outlet over the phone, as the family drove toward Washington, D.C., from New Jersey. "Apparently he collapsed in the Capitol and they resuscitated him using CPR."
The family later received word that Brian Sicknick had a blood clot and had had a stroke and a ventilator was keeping him alive, Ken Sicknick told ProPublica."
When the guy was laid out at the Capitol, a reporter on the CBS Evening News, sternly reported that he had been 'beaten to death'. What fucking bullshit artists.
Wait, what?
A ventilator?
COVID death for sure!
Good way to make sure he dies...
Last week you said something I found interesting. I know you won't read it and just "flag. refresh." Because Mormons refuse to admit they could be wrong. But it's worth a shot.
"You really need to read the room, dude. Nobody responds to your schtick."
Hahahaha! I'm proud that the far right whack jobs on here don't like me. It's better than being praised by far right whack jobs.
The thing that makes me know that this forum has a lot of scumbags is that when I criticize you and other mormons everyone insults me and calls me a bigot. However, when Red rocks says something homophobic, someone says something anti-Semitic about George Soros, or someone says something racist there's no criticism. I get criticized for pointing out anti semitism(I got called an anti semite for saying I didn't like Bibi Netanyahu. Most my Jewish friends are anti semitic according to some. people on here).
I read the room fine and it's a bunch of far right, wanna be fascist, Trump loving bigots.
People can't control their skin color, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. People can control what church they go to. You choose to go to an evil one Chuck. That's how I know you're a scumbag. Also you seemed more concerned with a Wendy's being vandalized than rioters trying to disrupt certifying the electoral college. Mormons are fascist by nature so I'm not suprised you support treason, but it was interesting to learn you're a fatty since you were so concerned about Wendy's.
Fat fascist Mormon fuck.
Flag. Refresh.
Bigot mormon
Flag. Refresh.
9gag is over there, sarcasmic ===>
Shorter KillAllRednecks:
blah blah blah I'm a bigot blah blah blah
It's a boring bigot. Which is even worse.
At least Misek says something halfway interesting, some of the time.
Why aren't yall calling out the racism or homophobic comments on here?
Do you only care about religious bigotry?
People don't choose their race or orientation. They do choose what church they go to. Chuck chooses to go to a bigoted, greedy, evil church. It's reasonable to criticize his bigotry.
Does your concern for religious bigotry extend to Muslims?
Flag. Refresh.
Even the Soviets knew that they had to run show trials more believably than this.
Pres. Trump has not simply failed to uphold his oath to preserve, protect, and defend the Constitution, which itself would be sufficient to warrant impeachment and removal.
One wonders if Leahy has ever violated his oath of office. Considering the impeachment itself isn't explicit about the conviction of a private citizen in such a fashion and SCOTUS's recusal from the farce, it's a decent question if his actions themselves aren't a violation.
A look to the future of the green jobs that Biden claims he is creating for those out of work from his policies.
The number of jobs in the German renewables sector (production and installation) has fallen from about 300,000 in 2011 to around 150,000 in 2018, the German Trade Union Association (DGB) found in an analysis of employment in the energy transition.
The drop in employment is mostly due to the collapse of Germany’s solar power industry over the past decade, as many companies were forced out of business thanks to cheaper competitors from China scooping up most of the market. The number of jobs in solar PV panel production and installation fell from a record 133,000 in 2011 to under 28,000 seven years later.
https://www.cleanenergywire.org/news/number-people-employed-german-renewables-sector-has-halved-2011?mc_cid=9f35909777&mc_eid=9b03a6c223
This drop in green jobs occurs in every modern country.
Jen Psaki’s response to the Fox News guy when he asked about this was just as rude and condescending as Trump was.
Newspeak translation:
Look, you know the claim of green jobs to replace other energy jobs was bullshit from the start. We knew the claim of green jobs to replace other energy jobs was bullshit from the start. But we now control most speech, and all media narratives in the country, so shut up. One more question like that and you will have to learn to code.
For being the most popular presidential candidate of all time, Biden just isn't that popular.
https://pjmedia.com/news-and-politics/stacey-lennox/2021/02/08/bidens-early-returns-arent-getting-any-better-most-americans-expect-it-will-get-worse-n1424076
He was apparently booed by the crowd in Tampa.
Though I'm a Falcons fan, go Bucs!
Also, the first time in history that a party won a presidency with a voter turnout percentage that (unbelievably) high, but at the same time nearly lost the House in the process.
This was truly the election of miracles for the DNC. Somebody down there really likes them.
Part of that phenomenon was all those ballots with only a presidential vote. Or has that now never happened?
They argue that the prosecution and extradition attempt is "a grave threat to press freedom both in the United States and abroad," since the "criminal" conduct Assange is accused of "is conduct that journalists engage in routinely—and that they must engage in in order to do the work the public needs them to do."
DIdn't this guy urge and ultimately coach a mentally ill person into stealing classified documents using their government credentials? Is this what "journalists engage in routinely?" Why the myopic focus on Assange and not on Snowden, a real patriot who knew the risks, took them anyway, and for a very specific reason.
coach a mentally ill person
Dude, you are going to make Progressive heads explode. Do they hate Assange enough to admit the tranny is mentally ill?
Speaking of mentally ill. When one person believes something imaginary is real we call it mental illness. When 16 million people believe in gold plates no one saw, magical underwear, and the ability to talk to god we call it the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints. According to reason commenters criticizing them makes you a bigot. However, homophobic slurs, anti-Semitic conspiracy theories, and racism are fine and criticizing them is engaging in "cancel culture."
Last week you said something I found interesting. I know you won't read it and just "flag. refresh." Because Mormons refuse to admit they could be wrong. But it's worth a shot.
"You really need to read the room, dude. Nobody responds to your schtick."
Hahahaha! I'm proud that the far right whack jobs on here don't like me. It's better than being praised by far right whack jobs.
The thing that makes me know that this forum has a lot of scumbags is that when I criticize you and other mormons everyone insults me and calls me a bigot. However, when Red rocks says something homophobic, someone says something anti-Semitic about George Soros, or someone says something racist there's no criticism. I get criticized for pointing out anti semitism(I got called an anti semite for saying I didn't like Bibi Netanyahu. Most my Jewish friends are anti semitic according to some. people on here).
I read the room fine and it's a bunch of far right, wanna be fascist, Trump loving bigots.
People can't control their skin color, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. People can control what church they go to. You choose to go to an evil one Chuck. That's how I know you're a scumbag. Also you seemed more concerned with a Wendy's being vandalized than rioters trying to disrupt certifying the electoral college. Mormons are fascist by nature so I'm not suprised you support treason, but it was interesting to learn you're a fatty since you were so concerned about Wendy's.
Fat fascist Mormon fuck.
Flag. Refresh.
Coward. Just like most mormons
Shut up bigot
I have a feeling your concern for religious bigotry wouldn't extend to Muslims. Am I right?
No, just hicklib faggots, you hicklib faggot.
Flag. Flag. Refresh.
Snowden is icky because he fled to Russia instead of Western Europe.
Russia, Russia, Russia.
The Assange situation "will present the Biden administration with an early test" of whether he plans to carry on the Trump administration's hostility to journalists and press freedom
Luckily for us, Biden was a part of the most transparent administration of all time, with its cornerstone being a free press.
Nothing says "transparent administration" like having an in-house propaganda machine.
Is Reason really “in-house” though?
"The Assange situation “will present the Biden administration with an early test” of whether he plans to carry on the Trump administration’s hostility to journalists and press freedom"
In what way, specifically, was Trump hostile to press "freedom"?
No question that Trump was hostile to journalists, but if we've learned anything about the press in the weeks following the Capitol riot, it's that the journalists really are the enemy of the American people. 70% of Republicans believe the election wasn't free and fair, and the press would have them labeled as insurrectionists.
Here's Rand Paul defending average Republicans from the press on ABC:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gCoHYeI0OeE
The press should be ashamed of themselves. They have made themselves the enemy of the American people.
Trump admin: calls journalists names on Twitter, is antogonistic toward and antogonist press corps, says "Fake News." Hostility toward press.
Obama admin: uses the power of the state to strongarm journalists and whistleblowers. But they did it politely, so not hostility toward the press.
Just returning to normalcy, where all the dirty shit is done quietly and behind the scenes, with no accountablility or scrutiny from a compliant press.
I'll give it to them on Trump being openly hostile to the press. So what?
"An Open Letter to Trump from the US Press Corps"
https://www.cjr.org/politics/trump_white_house_press_corps.php
The press was also openly hostile to Trump from before day one. I believe that letter was signed off on by most every member of the White House Press Corps. They were hostile to him, too!
I have no issue with saying that Trump was hostile to the press. But hostile to press freedom? What did Trump do specifically to combat press freedom? I'm hostile to authoritarians and socialists. I don't remember opposing their freedom. That's different.
Nothing says not hostile to journalist like spying on some 20 different journalist and even locking up the partner of one journalist for a few days at the border. who was that? it wasn't Trump it was Obama and Biden and Biden is Obama 2.0.
Obama tapped 20 Associated Press office phone lines and the homes and phones of reporters, but Trump tweeted mean things about Don Lemon so democracy-died-in-darkness-something-something.
"Democracy dies in darkness" is not a warning, it's their plan.
https://jonathanturley.org/2021/02/09/modus-or-media-operandi-cnn-runs-statement-of-anonymous-senior-aide-who-said-trump-loved-watching-the-riot/
I heard from a senior aid that Biden rapes a toddler every day
Well, at least some unwanted hair sniffing.
Which, people tell me, is the same as rape.
Trump sacrifices a cute puppy nightly to Shub-Niggurath in order to give himself sexual powers.
Where can I collect my CNN cheque?
Tomorrow’s roundup: Credible anonymous sources are reporting Trump sacrifices a cute puppy nightly to Shub-Niggurath in order to give himself sexual powers.
Was that before or after his daily viewing of the Gorilla Channel?
Google is threatening to leave Australia if an insane new draft law requiring search engines to pay for content they link to becomes law.
Live by Big Government; die by same.
So the Aussies are pissing off the Google division of DNC-Alphabet.
Well, now we know what country is first on Biden's liberation list.
Australia seems like a nice place to send prisoners...
https://summit.news/2021/02/08/report-uk-government-considering-knocking-on-doors-of-vaccine-refusniks/
The UK government is considering a plan to despatch council staff to knock on the doors of those who have refused to take a coronavirus vaccine, in an effort to coerce refusniks into taking the shot, according to a report.
In case anybody missed it, Jeff thinks cops can shoot any and all unarmed trespassers.
chemjeff radical individualist
February.9.2021 at 8:56 am
What is there to talk about?
From a libertarian perspective, Ashli Babbett was trespassing, and the officers were totally justified to shoot trespassers. Again from a libertarian perspective, the officers would have been justified in shooting every single trespasser. That would not have been wise or prudent, of course.
They were all trespassers trying to be where they weren’t supposed to be.
This is the person who was crying about "unmarked" arrests at the BLM protests last year (despite the agency and badge numbers being on the uniforms).
I don't see what's libertarian about gunning down an unruly mob.
On public property.
You don't understand, one of them sat in Nancy's chair and touched her things.
You can flag. Refresh. All you want. Doesn't make your church any less immoral.
Last week you said something I found interesting. I know you won't read it and just "flag. refresh." Because Mormons refuse to admit they could be wrong. But it's worth a shot.
"You really need to read the room, dude. Nobody responds to your schtick."
Hahahaha! I'm proud that the far right whack jobs on here don't like me. It's better than being praised by far right whack jobs.
The thing that makes me know that this forum has a lot of scumbags is that when I criticize you and other mormons everyone insults me and calls me a bigot. However, when Red rocks says something homophobic, someone says something anti-Semitic about George Soros, or someone says something racist there's no criticism. I get criticized for pointing out anti semitism(I got called an anti semite for saying I didn't like Bibi Netanyahu. Most my Jewish friends are anti semitic according to some. people on here).
I read the room fine and it's a bunch of far right, wanna be fascist, Trump loving bigots.
People can't control their skin color, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. People can control what church they go to. You choose to go to an evil one Chuck. That's how I know you're a scumbag. Also you seemed more concerned with a Wendy's being vandalized than rioters trying to disrupt certifying the electoral college. Mormons are fascist by nature so I'm not suprised you support treason, but it was interesting to learn you're a fatty since you were so concerned about Wendy's.
Fat fascist Mormon fuck.
Flag. Refresh.
You fit right in with all the bigots Chuck. Your Church hates gays and blacks(before 1978 because bigotry can disappear just because Kimball, Benson, or whoever said so.
Benson was a John Bitch society guy. Just like you!
Flag. Refresh.
There aren't any Mormons on the Democratic Underground forums, sarcasmic. You should post there. ===>
It's disgraceful. You really shouldn't pay any attention to him at all.
Shooting unarmed protesters because they're trespassing on public property is indefensible from a libertarian perspective.
ChemJeff is not only NOT a libertarian, he's also an idiot. He's such an idiot, he claimed to have voted for Harvey Browne back in the day--in the same thread in which he was outright incredulous to learn that libertarians think social security is an undesirable socialist program. He's a buffoon.
If he's getting paid to post here to make the left look stupid, then the people who are paying him are definitely getting their money's worth. He's just a troll and should be treated like one. Ignore him or just tell him the truth--that's he's a fucking idiot.
Harvey, Harry, Barry Sanders, Bernie Sanders, Potato, Po-tah-to, Tomato, To-mah-to.
Banana-fana-fo-fana
Fee-fi-fo-fana
"ChemJeff is not only NOT a libertarian"
That's the understatement of the decade.
Does Jeff even identify here as libertarian? I know Tony doesn't.
Oh, he's made the case that I'm not a real libertarian and he is on a number of occasions.
On one occasion, he claimed that he was more libertarian than I am because he voted for Jorgensen--as if libertarianism were all about being loyal to a politician or a political party. Again, he's just a dumb fuck, who has no idea what he's talking about.
On the other occasion when I asked him if he still thought himself more libertarian than the rest of us, he said he'd been libertarian for so long that he'd voted for Harry Browne, who last had the LP nomination 20 years ago. That was the same thread where he was shocked to find out that libertarians don't support Social Security.
ChemJeff was regurgitating that bullshit meme about how we shouldn't oppose socialism because all the things libertarians like are socialist--including public schools and social security! And the gist of it was more or less, "All the rest of us libertarians are okay with socialism, so why don't you become a libertarian?"
If he's a liar, that isn't his most prominent feature. He's just so ignorant, he has no idea what libertarianism is, what he's talking about, or what we think and why. Of course, if he voted for Harry Browne, it was because he knew nothing about us, but the bigger point is--why would you bullshit something like that in a thread about how social security is totally libertarian? The only reasonable explanation is because you have no idea that doesn't make sense.
His most prominent feature is his stupidity.
I don’t know man, I still think being a dishonest piece of shit is his prominent feature, just because he can do it in such amazingly diverse ways.
I think Jeff, like many idiots, used to call themselves "Independents", but when that got to be a tiresome moniker, the hooked onto calling themselves libertarians. & instead of finding out what that was, they simply defined it as who the already are.
No offense, but if you're climbing in through one of my windows you are getting shot whether you're armed or not.
I must just be a contrarian because while I think this shooting shouldn't have happened - I can't really fault the cop for taking the shot under the circumstances.
It's not a 'good shoot' - but it's not a bad one either.
it wasn't one of your windows though fucktard.
That.
You get castle doctrine behind you if it's your window. (Or at least, you should, if you live in a civilized state.) The cops don't.
Again, articulate for me an imminent threat of death or serious bodily injury posed by Babbit in that situation, and I'd say that using deadly force to stop her would be fine. The problem is, there wasn't one from her, at that moment. Especially when the cop had armed backup behind him, and a friggin Capitol Tac officer with a rifle down the hall from her.
You don't get to blast someone for crossing a line on the floor. Not that line, then, anyway.
The government shot an unarmed protester on public property.
There, I've highlighted the differences for you in case you really don't see them.
You should learn about rules of engagement. It doesn't include shooting unarmed people whose hands are in clear view.
https://www.zerohedge.com/markets/which-country-will-ban-fossil-fuel-car-sales-first
As President Biden moves to suspend oil and gas leasing on federal land - and has halted further development of the Keystone Pipeline - California has announced fossil-fuel vehicle sales bans by 2035. So what about on a country-level? Who has already announced future bans?
I really can't fathom what California is going to do to fill the oil and gas void.
They've only got 14 years to meet the 2035 deadline, and there's no way in hell that they'll be able to have enough nuclear power plants online before that. If they don't back off on fossil fuels they're not going to be able to power their homes let alone their cars.
Are they hoping for alien technology?
Chitauri tech worked for the Avengers/Spiderman/others...
California is already asking us to cut back on electricity usage from 4-9 PM daily, since renewable energy is less available then. To "Keep California Golden".
Google has warned it would break the way its search engine operates and undermine a fundamental principle of the internet by forcing the company to pay to provide links to news websites. Facebook has said it would remove all news, local and international, from its platform in Australia if the code is enacted.
How does Google make their money? Do you think they just provide those links out of the kindness of their hearts? And how come when you search for stuff on Google and then you search the exact same thing on Bing you sometimes get wildly diverse search results, as in the search terms don't show any results on Google? As, for example, here. Google and their lawyers and their spokesworms are full of shit. They're happy to censor stuff for the Chinese, they'll fight anybody that gives them an inch.
How does Google make their money?
Human trafficking? 🙂
So, they just had their biggest weekend of the year, right?
I thought they just did that for fun.
I know Chuck won't respond. He's a coward like most mormons. It's worth a shot. Hypocrites and bigots should be called out.
Last week you said something I found interesting. I know you won't read it and just "flag. refresh." Because Mormons refuse to admit they could be wrong. But it's worth a shot.
"You really need to read the room, dude. Nobody responds to your schtick."
Hahahaha! I'm proud that the far right whack jobs on here don't like me. It's better than being praised by far right whack jobs.
The thing that makes me know that this forum has a lot of scumbags is that when I criticize you and other mormons everyone insults me and calls me a bigot. However, when Red rocks says something homophobic, someone says something anti-Semitic about George Soros, or someone says something racist there's no criticism. I get criticized for pointing out anti semitism(I got called an anti semite for saying I didn't like Bibi Netanyahu. Most my Jewish friends are anti semitic according to some. people on here).
I read the room fine and it's a bunch of far right, wanna be fascist, Trump loving bigots.
People can't control their skin color, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. People can control what church they go to. You choose to go to an evil one Chuck. That's how I know you're a scumbag. Also you seemed more concerned with a Wendy's being vandalized than rioters trying to disrupt certifying the electoral college. Mormons are fascist by nature so I'm not suprised you support treason, but it was interesting to learn you're a fatty since you were so concerned about Wendy's.
Fat fascist Mormon fuck.
Flag. Refresh.
Coward.
Bigot POS
I'm not even Mormon and I'm flagging the fuck out of you.
Flag. Refresh.
Piss off, Sarcasmic.
https://consentfactory.org/2021/02/08/the-new-normal-war-on-domestic-terror/
According to a “National Terrorism Advisory System Bulletin” issued by the DHS on January 27, these DCEs, HVEs, VCTEs, VRDEs, IMAEs, and PWMLFUs are “ideologically-motivated violent extremists with objections to the exercise of governmental authority” and other “perceived grievances fueled by false narratives.” They are believed to be “motivated by a range of issues, including anger over Covid-19 restrictions, the 2020 election results, police use of force,” and other dangerous “false narratives” (e.g., the existence of the “deep state,” “herd immunity,” “biological sex,” “God,” and so on).
Yeah, being angry at the way police use force is definitely a false narrative. That's why BLM didn't riot all summer.
Nothing partisan here:
"Longtime federal judges stepping aside to create vacancies for Biden to fill"
[...]
"...Those who have spoken publicly have denied any partisan motives — understandably, since they remain on the bench — but Polster alluded to the need for the judiciary to show strength in a time of turmoil..."
https://www.sfchronicle.com/nation/article/Longtime-federal-judges-stepping-aside-to-create-15928007.php
I hope Google goes through on their threat. Not that I'm rooting for Google, but I'm sick and tired of these Knute governments thinking they can just legislate the tide to go out. They don't have the first clue as to what a link is.
Jeepers, didn't we have this argument here in the US back in the late 90s? Href links, ISBN numbers, track titles, shelf numbers, and other references, are not violations of copyright.
Australia's an idiot. What are they going to do when Google pulls out? Are they going to do a China and make their own search engine and mandate it's use? Aussies should be embarrassed of their government.
Use DuckDuckGo
No Google had no problem regulating their links for china
Funny that.
What are they going to do when Google pulls out?
That is called the 'money shot'.
How would you know? Pornography is immoral and should be banned according to your church Chuck?
Last week you said something I found interesting. I know you won't read it and just "flag. refresh." Because Mormons refuse to admit they could be wrong. But it's worth a shot.
"You really need to read the room, dude. Nobody responds to your schtick."
Hahahaha! I'm proud that the far right whack jobs on here don't like me. It's better than being praised by far right whack jobs.
The thing that makes me know that this forum has a lot of scumbags is that when I criticize you and other mormons everyone insults me and calls me a bigot. However, when Red rocks says something homophobic, someone says something anti-Semitic about George Soros, or someone says something racist there's no criticism. I get criticized for pointing out anti semitism(I got called an anti semite for saying I didn't like Bibi Netanyahu. Most my Jewish friends are anti semitic according to some. people on here).
I read the room fine and it's a bunch of far right, wanna be fascist, Trump loving bigots.
People can't control their skin color, sexual orientation, or ethnicity. People can control what church they go to. You choose to go to an evil one Chuck. That's how I know you're a scumbag. Also you seemed more concerned with a Wendy's being vandalized than rioters trying to disrupt certifying the electoral college. Mormons are fascist by nature so I'm not suprised you support treason, but it was interesting to learn you're a fatty since you were so concerned about Wendy's.
Fat fascist Mormon fuck.
I am not taking the bait, shitstain.
Flag. Refresh.
Because you are a bigoted coward like most mormons.
And I will keep posting until Chuck admits he's a bigot or condemns all the bigots(like you who defend him).
No one cares what an inbred bigot from asshole rural montana thinks red rocks.
You're a mental midget keyboard warrior coward.
You or Chuck are invited to Oregon so I can pound your bigot faces in.
You'd have the advantage since it seems like most cops in Oregon support the bigots and fascists.
Piss off, Sarcasmic.
You're the bigot POS
Right below here red rocks uses a homophobic slurs. Why don't you call out his bigotry?
People don't choose their race or orientation, but they can choose what church they go to.
Chuck chooses to go to a bigoted church.
Youre the bigot bible humper. Probably one of those pussies who uses "religious freedom" to justify their bigotry.
Your god doesn't exist you bible humping bigot
The hicklib faggot doesn't like being known as a hicklib faggot.
Im guessing that if someone started making anti-muslim statements your objections to religious bigotry might disappear?
Flag. Flag. Flag. Flag. Refresh.
Piss off, Sarcasmic.
You did this copypasta already, you hicklib faggot.
And I will keep posting until Chuck admits he's a bigot or condemns all the bigots(like you who defend him).
No one cares what an inbred bigot from asshole rural montana thinks red rocks.
You're a mental midget keyboard warrior coward.
You or Chuck are invited to Oregon so I can pound your bigot faces in.
You'd have the advantage since it seems like most cops in Oregon support the bigots and fascists.
Piss off, Sarcasmic.
You couldn't punch your alcoholic ass out of a paper bag, so who the fuck do you think you're kidding.
I'm not sarc.
I thought Canadians were big drinkers? I actually don't mind Molson.
I'm all for people not drinking if they don't want to, as long as they don't infringe on my rights.
If mormons had their way the 21st amendment would be repealed. They'd also repeal the 13th, 14th and 1st if they could.
Try coming up with something original, you hicklib faggot.
The only thing you're pounding is a box of Hot Pockets.
You're so angry at me all the time! The place you live must be a real shithole.
Please keep talking shit. If I feel down I just tell myself that if a backwards, uneducated bigot like you hates me with such vitriol I'm doing pretty well.
The hicklib faggot thinks he's doing so well that he constantly whines about me calling him a hicklib faggot.
Flag. Flag. Flag. Refresh.
"What are they going to do when Google pulls out?"
Find and use a competitor? It's what people like you tell us to do every other time a private company does something we don't like.
Unless you're telling me there's no meaningful competition for Google...?
Thankfully, there is
https://www.searchenginejournal.com/alternative-search-engines/271409/
Many of them.
the "the Capitol is the same as my window" guy thinks this is about search lol
Well there you go then. Brandy can relax about the poor Australians' plight now.
https://www.theamericanconservative.com/dreher/the-snowplow-test-trump-liberal-virginia-heffernan/
Let me tell you something, Virginia: your neighbors probably have no idea who Ben Sasse is, and isn’t looking to reconcile with you, much less receive your absolution. They just wanted to do something nice for you, because you are their neighbor, and that’s what neighbors do for each other. The fact that you assume there must be some politically aware motive behind the action says a lot about you. I grew up in the rural South, and trust me, nobody stopped to ask what one’s politics were before doing something nice for them. This is not how people live outside of Blue State Cosmopolises.
One line from her article that made me laugh out loud: "At the time, I seethed; the Capitol had just been desecrated."
"Desecrated". As if it's some holy place.
Duh. DC is like the Vatican for the Church of Government.
It's really just indicative of the deep divide between urban progressives and everyone else, and it's really sad. What kind of a world do you live in where people don't do nice things for each other without a motive, beyond just being neighborly? This is why they're progressives- because they live in a sick, selfish world where people are generally lousy to each other and they're miserable. They also have NO IDEA that that's not how the world is outside their progressive bubble of bad behavior, so they thinks it's necessary to have the government intervene in every aspect of life, to force people to behave themselves with decency toward each other.
Those of us living in the rest of the world know that people already pretty much behave decently toward each other, for the most part. If they weren't such a threat to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness, I would pity their poor, blighted souls for being so goddam miserable all the time.
Progressive elites like Heffernan assume anyone doing something nice for someone is because they're looking for something in return--because that's exactly how their own social circles operate. Everything is a fucking transaction with these assholes.
Nothing about them is sincere other than their unwarranted sense of self-regard. They have fashion friends, not actual friends.
it's self-loathing actually. the fashionable friends are to make themselves feel better, not because they think they deserve them.
Reading these critiques of Heffernan's self-interested worldview---and I agree with you guys!---is delicious irony at a Libertarian website. Did the writers excommunicate Ayn Rand while I was away?
I also thought after reading the blurb, and your comments about it, that it's an awfully similar worldview to how people in the PRC approach social niceties, post Cultural Revolution and the eradication of Confucian norms. Everything is a transaction, and fuck everyone that isn't in your close social sphere. Or dares to tell you, "No," considering it's a government and society run by spoiled only children. (If that isn't redundant.)
I don't think Heffernan's anecdote happened at all. That the silly bitch nevertheless decided to make one up, try to publish it (and got an editor to sign off) so she could highlight her social circle's opinions of properthink towards the benighted in Flyover Land...none of that is a good sign for future reconciliation or peace with these people.
I don’t think Heffernan’s anecdote happened at all.
Christ, if she made it up, that would be even worse. Only a total psychopath makes up an anecdote where the moral is, "People doing nice things for you is only good if they think exactly like you."
none of that is a good sign for future reconciliation or peace with these people.
You're right, it really isn't. Because people like Heffernan are the elites who are driving these narratives. She, her colleagues, her friends, her professional network outside of journalism--they're a neo-Red Guard looking to purge anything that goes against the prevailing progressive narrative. We may only be fortunate in the fact that they've forgotten the lesson of other successful communist revolutions, which required the support of the hinterlands to accomplish.
Once the break comes, any attempt at forceful reconciliation is going to get bloody, and ultimately they may just decide to settle for holing up within Megacities One and Two, while condemning the rest of us as outlanders (which they basically already do, anyway).
This is a great line.
Does Auden’s great command — “You shall love your crooked neighbour/With your crooked heart” —
"US moves to rejoin UN rights council, reversing Trump anew"
[...]
"...Trump pulled out of the world body's main human rights agency in 2018 due to its disproportionate focus on Israel, which has received by far the largest number of critical council resolutions against any country, as well as the number of authoritarian countries among its members and because it failed to meet an extensive list of reforms demanded by then-U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Nikki Haley..."
Anti-semites are human, too, right?
New York Times is starting to ask why democrat/leftist run areas are doing so much worse with vaccination distribution.
https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/05/briefing/marjorie-taylor-greene-uk-vaccine-biden-stimulus.html
Over the last few weeks, as vaccination has become a top priority, the pattern has changed. Progressive leaders in much of the world are now struggling to distribute coronavirus vaccines quickly and efficiently: Europe’s vaccination rollout “has descended into chaos,” as Sylvie Kauffmann of Le Monde, the French newspaper, has written. One of the worst performers is the Netherlands, which has given a shot to less than 2 percent of residents. Canada (at less than 3 percent) is far behind the U.S. (about 8.4 percent). Within the U.S., many Democratic states — like California, Illinois, Minnesota, New Jersey, New York and tiny Rhode Island — are below the national average. “The parts of the country that pride themselves on taking Covid seriously and believing in government are not covering themselves in glory,” The Times’s Ezra Klein has written.
They'll redefine the goal soon enough. It will become who has distributed the the higher percentage of their vaccines to some "worthy" interest group.
JesseAZ, it is even worse than you think. Here in the People's Republic of NJ, our incompetent governor decided to 'go with the science'.
If you are a drug addict, regardless of age; you go ahead in line.
If you an incarcerated rapist, murderer; you go ahead in line.
If you're an illegal alien aged 65, you go ahead in line.
The man should be removed from office immediately, along with that harpy of a health commissioner.
"New York Times is starting to ask why democrat/leftist run areas are doing so much worse"
Hoarders and wreckers I'm guessing.
So where does Ezra Klein work now?
Fans to mayor: Up YOURS!
"Tampa mayor frustrated by maskless fans after Super Bowl"
[...]
"TAMPA, Fla. — So much for the mayor’s order requiring masks at Super Bowl parties. Throngs of mostly maskless fans took to the streets and packed sports bars as the clock inside Raymond James Stadium ticked down on a hometown Super Bowl win for the Tampa Bay Buccaneers...."
https://chicago.suntimes.com/coronavirus/2021/2/8/22272326/tampa-maskless-fans-super-bowl
"Ackland warned the code, which government sources expect will be enacted within weeks, could "potentially be fatal" for small publishers such as Junkee, which rely on Google and Facebook to drive 75 per cent of traffic to their websites…."
And yet it appears that Google was able to accommodate a similar issue in France just a couple of weeks ago.
"Google has reached an agreement with an association of French publishers over how it will be pay for reuse of snippets of their content. This is a result of application of a ‘neighbouring right’ for news which was transposed into national law following a pan-EU copyright reform agreed back in 2019.
The tech giant had sought to evade paying French publishers for reuse of snippets of content in its news aggregation and search products by no longer displaying them in the country.
----TechCrunch, January 21, 2021
https://techcrunch.com/2021/01/21/google-inks-agreement-in-france-on-paying-publishers-for-news-reuse/
If Google decides to retreat from Australia, there are all sorts of other search engines, web services, and apps people can use. If Google is threatening to shut down the Google app store, I strongly suspect that would violate their contractual obligations to various phone ,manufacturers. If they shut down their app store, it would certainly open them up to charges of abusing their market position a la antitrust, too.
The fight between Google and journalism is sort of like the war between Castro's Cubans and the apartheid era South Africans. It's hard to care about either one getting the shit beat out of them. You just hope that they don't hurt too many innocent bystanders.
Australia and China have been sniping at each other in recent months, and with Google's tongue deep in China's asshole, I wouldn't be surprised if that's where a lot of this drama is coming from.
Yep. China investing PNG---and telling BHP Billiton and Freeport McMoRan to take a hike---in 3, 2, 1...
DOJ to seek resignations of most Trump-appointed US attorneys: report
https://archive.vn/9c4JU
I wonder if Reason will call this Obstruction Of Justice or a Saturday Night Massacre.
I keep hearing that they all do this, which doesn't mean it's true, but he's leaving the U.S. attorneys investigating Hunter Biden in place--so "Saturday Night Massacre" probably isn't appropriate.
Biden sucks but maybe not for this reason.
Ah Ken, forever the optimist.
Notice how Reason/Cato constantly talk about things that liberal candidates might do that are pro liberty that they don't even talk about doing. Trump at least talked about doing this before they showed him the other angle of the JFK assassination.
and how we shouldn't let them do the anti-libertarian things they've announced they plan to do.
"Google has warned it would break the way its search engine operates and undermine a fundamental principle of the internet by forcing the company to pay to provide links to news websites. Facebook has said it would remove all news, local and international, from its platform in Australia if the code is enacted."
Not to worry. Eager government information ministers and their select "media" lap dogs will provide all the news that good citizens need to read.
It's sort of like a perpetual motion machine, it depends on free content being generated by others, which they can then share without paying a license.
"Paris gave an impactful testimony on the abuse she endured at Provo Canyon School today."
Or maybe just Hilton vs. (Utah Mormon-based) Marriott corporate sniping?
Assange helped undermine Clinton's election bid in 2016. He will get no forgiveness.
Also, where do you get the idea that the Democrats have any desire for a free press?
The morning JournoList email asked everyone to mention it.
England holds Assange. Russia holds Snowden.
All Biden has to do is sit back and watch.
First, Julian Assange is not, by reasonable standards, a journalist. At bottom, he is an organizer of thieves who penetrate public and private data systems, copy data, and provide it to him and his associates for publication. The publication, most often is in raw form. While the data might be used by journalists, that does not make Assange one.
Second, Assange is not being persecuted. He is plausibly accused of providing material assistance to Bradley Manning, who stole US government classified material for delivery to Assange. He is accused, in particular, of helping Manning crack a password he needed to gain unauthorized access to some of the data. The charge is a serious one, and Mr. Assange and the US government have a right to try it and others in court. Accordingly, the government has requested that the United Kingdom, where he was being held on a bail-jumping charge, extradite him for trial.
Whether Assange is a journalist by your definition doesn't matter. There isn't anything about being an official journalist in your book that gives them any special rights. He published information--full stop. Meanwhile, he's only guilty if a jury of his peers is willing to convict him. If I were on the jury, publishing the truth, when the government is violating our rights or behaving badly, doesn't merit a conviction--regardless of whether he broke the law. If Joe Biden and the Democrats want to take the side of the bureaucrats treating our rights like shit and behaving badly, then they should own that. Looks about right on them.
Just because charges against Assange can be rationalized doesn't mean they should be.
I'm usually onboard with this, but Assange published things that very likely got US troops killed.
You want to publish the details of NSA malfeasance? I'm onboard, wouldn't vote to convict. But there's a lot of classified material that is of absolutely no public interest and he published it anyways, putting those people in danger for basically no reason. He should face consequences for that.
That's Manning's fault. Not Assanges.
I've no problem with letting that little shitstain Manning rot in jail forever, but Snowden and Assange should be pardoned.
Yup. It's a near certainty that Assange will be prosecuted and punished more severely than Assange and from imposing the US's will abroad to abrogating free speech to defending a military occupation, it should be unconscionable from an American/libertarian POV.
I disagree slightly. Absent taking a sworn oath to protect the information and serve the people it protected, he simply reported facts as he knew them. Keep in mind, Assange is not and was not a US citizen. If a Canadian, British, German, or Saudi reporter uncovers reasonable evidence that the US committed war crimes outside the US, are they bound by the rules and procedures of the US State Dept.? There's a case that he, metaphorically of course, lent a pair of bolt cutters to someone who he knew would steal US secrets but, barring him being 'at the scene' of the theft, he should receive a slap on the wrist. Manning is the one who actually stole the secrets, violated his oath, and betrayed his country and fellow officers, and he's been shown obnoxiously excessive leniency.
I can't fathom the reasonable reason, libertarian or other, why Assange should face anything worse than Manning has received. This already is a pretty gross miscarriage of justice in defense of a violent military occupation and to punish Assange while letting Manning off easy is an effective end-around the concept behind whistleblower protections. Did Glen Greenwald have any idea as to the number of lives he would cost/save by publishing Snowden's intel/revelations? IMO, unless you can prove that Manning showed Assange how publishing information XYZ would lead to the death of (e.g.) Chris Stevens or every American operative in Benghazi or whatever, there's no crime. It's a journalist's job to weigh the consequences but there's a reasonable limit as to how deeply they can explore and consider those consequences.
And to address the issue Tom Dial raised above, yes, Assange is being persecuted. The bail-jumping trial he's being pursued for is groundless. The woman accusing him of assaulting her doesn't make any claims to his use of force, wasn't his employee, pursued the relationship, arguably more ardently than he did, both before and after the encounter, and didn't make any allegations of the assault until well after the event occurred. The US's pursuit of a non-citizen outside its/any borders is clearly exceptional and incongruous with the treatment of the actual perpetraitors within its borders and under its jurisdiction.
If Assange merely provided a bulletin board for publishing Manning's material, I might agree with you. My understanding though, is Assange went beyond passively publishing data Manning had already stolen, (as the Post did with the Pentagon Papers) and encouraged (in the criminal accomplice sense of the word) Manning to steal more stuff.
Which, if so, makes Assange a spy, if not an oathbreaker like Manning. And if so, he can rot like Manning should.
And if so, he can rot like Manning should.
Should or did? Do you really think that if Assange turned up on American soil he would be punished less severely than Manning? Do you honestly think he's going to get the Ellsberg treatment?
This demonstrates a profound faith in the ability of the US government to hold a fair and impartial trial and faithfully carry out justice. Given Snowden, Manning's release, Trump's impeachment, Butina's trial, Kavanaugh's trial, Biden's quid pro quo, Swalwell/Fang, Hunter Biden's laptop, mostly peaceful riots v. insurrection, Trump's being impeached again... I no longer have anything near that level of faith in the government.
Under a different administration at a different time, I think Assange should be brought to trial *if he sets foot on American soil*. In the current era, especially with the pursuit that has been and continues to be executed, it very much seems like an attempted lynching of a foreign national under the color of law.
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Assange's trial should begin immediately after the trial of every FBI, CIA, and NSA who illegally spied on US citizens. But the feds fully operate on a rules for thee but not for me basis so we all know that's never happening
There's this equitable concern too. Maybe prosecute Assange, but Goddamnit, he'd better have some company in jail.
Maybe prosecute Assange, but Goddamnit, he’d better have some company in jail.
His would-be company is walking about freely on American soil within the jurisdiction of pretty much any American government authority. Many took oaths to uphold the law and protect the Consitution and still show up every day to work. Several even perjured themselve in front of Congress. After we apprehend the fugitive who known as James Clapper, then maybe I'll believe Assange, if he showed up on American soil, could get a fair trail. I have a feeling that had such a thing happened, Snowden may've come home to stand trial too.
At bottom, he is an organizer of thieves who penetrate public and private data systems, copy data, and provide it to him and his associates for publication.
A community organizer who gained control of and/or developed his own illegal, clandestine information gathering network? Sounds like an 8 yr. sentence serving in the White House would be appropriate.
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