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Lindsey Graham Says Trump Will Sign Spending Bill if It Takes Aim at Section 230

Plus: One in seven NYC chain stores closed, Columbus officers turned off body cams before fatal shooting, and more....

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Republicans keep trying to turn everything into a fight over Section 230. With President Donald Trump threatening to veto both a defense spending measure and an omnibus bill to fund government programs, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) is suggesting this could change if Democrats throw an anti-Section 230 clause into the mix.

Section 230—a federal communications law that helps protect free speech and free enterprise online—has become a scapegoat for bipartisan ire at big tech companies and all sorts of conservative gripes about social media.

After failed attempts to diminish Section 230 by executive order, Trump said last week he wouldn't sign a bill to fund the military unless it randomly contained a section targeting Section 230. Now, Trump could be conditioning support for any government funding bill on that same deal.

The omnibus bill—which includes a COVID-19 relief package—passed the House and Senate on Monday. But Trump says he won't sign, calling it "a disgrace" and "wasteful," while also demanding that payments to individuals be raised from $600 to $2,000.

The latter amount was what Democrats originally pushed for, and Democratic leaders in Congress have leapt on Trump's mandate to make individual stimulus checks bigger.

Trump's concern for upping individual stimulus checks seems to be tied up in his ambitions of overturning the 2020 election results.

In his Tuesday video, Trump said he's "asking Congress to immediately get rid of the wasteful and unnecessary items from this legislation, and to send me a suitable bill, or else the next administration will have to deliver a covid relief package, and maybe that administration will be me."

The video "landed like a sonic boom in Washington. His own aides were stunned," says The Washington Post. "Congressional aides were stunned. Stock market futures quickly slumped on the prospect that the economic aid could be in doubt. And the implications for what happens next could be severe. If he refuses to sign the bill, the government will shut down on Dec. 29. The $900 billion in emergency economic aid will be frozen, and the race for the two Senate seats in Georgia could also be upended."

Trump's issue seems to be with the whole omnibus spending bill, though he keeps erroneously referring to that as the COVID-19 relief package. The latter is part of the former—a $900 billion chunk of $2.3 trillion in spending.

It's the larger bill—which covers everything needed to keep the government running through the next year and more—that contains items like $1 billion for the creation of two new Smithsonian museums and $10 million for "gender programs" in Pakistan.

"To be sure, the president's broadsides against a spending deal that includes lots of money for 'lobbyists, foreign countries, and special interests' is certainly welcome, and, frankly, on target," writes Reason's Christian Britschgi. "The trouble is that the conditions Trump outlined for supporting relief legislation would make the bill much worse."

Adding a Section 230 overhaul to those conditions would only compound the damage more. Abolishing or weakening it would be bad for internet users and companies at any time, and especially during the pandemic when tech platforms and tools have become even more vital. There's no way legislators should be tucking such a monumental measure into an omnibus spending bill plus COVID-19 relief package as some sort of presidential extortion plan.


FREE MINDS

For the second time this month, a Columbus, Ohio, police officer has fatally shot an unarmed black man. The man's name has not been released. Officers were wearing body cameras but did not have them turned on.

"If you're not going to turn on your body-worn camera, you cannot serve and protect the people of Columbus," Mayor Andrew Ginther said at a press conference. "I have asked Chief [Thomas] Quinlan to remove the officer involved of duty and turn in his badge and gun."

Earlier this month, "law enforcement fatally shot 23-year-old Black man Casey Goodson as he entered his grandmother's home," notes NBC News. "The investigation into his death, which drew national headlines, is ongoing.



FREE MARKETS

Even big chain stores in New York City are taking a pandemic hit, with one in seven shutting down this past year. From the New York Post:

Some 1,132 chain stores — including 70 Duane Reades, 54 Starbucks and 22 Papyruses — have waved the white flag over the past 12 months, according to the Center for an Urban Future's annual "State of the Chains" report, set to be ­released Wednesday.

The 14.2 percent decline shatters all previous records reported by the nonprofit agency since it began tracking the data 13 years ago. Last year, just 3.7 percent of all chain outlets closed, up from 0.3 percent in 2018.


QUICK HITS

• The pandemic has brought out a new sexual puritanism, suggests New York Times op-ed writer Megan Nolan.

• Mike Solana offers some unconventional wisdom on why tech companies are leaving Silicon Valley.

Ma Rainey's Black Bottom "has plenty of speechifying, but no sermonizing; it's more interested in exploring different worldviews, the way they clash and conflict sometimes come together, than in asserting its own," writes Reason's Peter Suderman.

• "People should be able to engage with the counselor who can best meet their needs wherever they live and continue seeing that counselor if they move across the country," suggests Elizabeth Brokamp, a therapist challenging D.C. occupational licensing laws. "I hope my case can start removing senseless boundaries to teletherapy."

• The spending bill is decriminalizing dressing up like Smokey the Bear.

• "About 40 migrant women who were held at a Georgia detention center have filed a class-action lawsuit alleging they were subjected to medical abuse through nonconsensual or unnecessary procedures while in the facility," reports NBC News. "The complaint, filed late Monday in the U.S. District Court for the Middle District of Georgia, also claims women at the Irwin County Detention Center were retaliated against for speaking out against Dr. Mahendra Amin, of Ocilla, Georgia, who has been accused of the medical abuse."

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  1. But Trump says he won’t sign, calling it “a disgrace” and “wasteful,” while also demanding that payments to individuals be raised from $600 to $2,000.

    He ain’t wrong.

    1. About the first part or second?

      Fuck You Cut Spending

      1. The government has been taking people’s livelihoods without compensation.

        1. Oh, I agree, and that should stop. However, greater redistribution of wealth (increased stimulus checks) is only furthering that end.

          Two wrongs don’t make a right.

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          3. Increase the cash to individuals, but get rid of the pork to offset. Of course they won’t do that.

        2. and the compensation will be borrowing another 900 billion for us to pay back?

          1. Rand Paul is right that there need to be offsetting spending cuts to make this deficit neutral.

    2. But Trump says he won’t sign, calling it “a disgrace” and “wasteful,” while also demanding that payments to individuals be raised visit here for full detail………..more information.

    3. Hello.

      I’m a simple man. Facebook, youtube and Twitter ban and censor at an unacceptable rate. Remind me why they deserve Section 230 protection again? Either they choose to be publishers or platforms. Not both.

      I’m against government interventionism in these sorts of things but those three places are run by three punks….so let Trump have a go at them.

      1. Remind me why they deserve Section 230 protection again?

        Because they’re censoring speech that ENB dislikes.
        When it’s silencing x-tians, plebs, conservatives and skeptics, hot damn it’s great, but when the censors go after Pornohub, watch out. ENB isn’t very consistent.

        1. Has ENB called for the government to swoop in and fix private “censorship” she doesn’t like?

          1. She personally tried to publicly shame and warned future employers about him due to a single comment he made about sandwiches. She supported openly gamergate and censorship there.

            1. You just went from talking about government efforts to take down pornhub to some “him”. You are kind of “fluid” in sticking to debating a specific debate topic.

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            2. Trump just vetoed a bill with a veto proof majority, yet you gave Trump a pass on not vetoing other spending bills because there was a veto proof majority. If Trump vetoed the NDAA (albeit for the wrong reasons), he could have vetoed all those other bills, DICK FACE.

              1. Poor unreason bots.

                Congress can still override presidential vetoes and they might this time too.

                Trump has nothing to lose because he is now serving a second term as president. Trump won his election and can now fight the RINOs again.

            3. Blue State Jesse is a hypocrite. He criticizes Justin Amash for “not getting anything done for liberty” (Evidently it’s Amash’s fault that most members of Congress hate freedom.), yet he is silent about Thomas Massie and Rand Paul ALSO accomplishing nothing for the past decade. Rand couldn’t get the Fed audited, Obamacare repealed, or convince ANY Republican senators to cut spending. Could it be because they still kiss Trump’s ass while Amash doesn’t? I think so.

          2. Yes she has. It pissed off all real libritarians

            1. Cite?

          3. She’s not gonna fuck you Dee.

            1. I thought you said I am her.

              1. So not just racist, but also homophobic. Not surprising.

                1. OK, also please connect the dots on your thinking process on this non-sequitur.

                  1. Bless your heart.

                    1. So, you got nuthin’.

                      That’s cool, you just wanted to call me “homophobic”, didn’t have any real reason to do so, but thought you would go for it.

                    2. “So, you got nuthin’.”

                      This is always what you say when people don’t let you troll them.

                    3. It’s not my fault you’re not very bright.

      2. They don’t *deserve* Section 230. Section 230 is a good idea because it makes it possible for websites to post user-provided content at huge scales, scales well beyond their being able to pre-screen all the user-provided content before posting it.

        So, we the public, are shooting ourselves in the foot, and killing the goose that lays golden eggs, if Section 230 is repealed. Maybe we, the public, don’t deserve 230 if we are that stupid collectively.

        1. Again, you lie about platform vs publisher. Comments are already not the liability of a website even prior to 230. 230s purpose was to protect platforms whose purpose may be utilized for criminal intent. It is the same as gun manufacturers not being liable for people using the guns. But you’re probably for making them liable.

          1. “230s purpose was to protect platforms whose purpose may be utilized for criminal intent.”

            You just backed up my argument about Section 230 making it possible for websites to accept user-provided content at scales beyond what can be pre-screened for unacceptable content. Nardz’ death threats, for example.

            1. Your lies, to be accurate.

          2. Jesse is a phony piece of shit in a blue state. Lol. He won’t respond to me either.

        2. all Internet regulations should be repealed. that would be libertarian. if you don’t like Facebook, don’t use it. I don’t.

          1. Unless you are an anarchic-libertarian there is nothing wrong with a well-crafted legal framework supporting free markets. Such a framework is desirable from a classical liberal perspective.

            1. We have one. It’s called the Constitution.

              1. Dee is a fan of Top Men making rules for the rest of us.

              2. The Constitution itself calls for more of a legal and government framework to be established than what is in the Constitution.

      3. Statist.

    4. SleepyJoe will solve this problem. Day one.

      1. “I’m gonna care so hard it’s gonna feel like three cocks up your ass. Here’s what I’m gonna do in my first 100 days. I’m gonna tell you all to follow the Shaman and wear a mask for 100 days. That’s it man. One thousand days and we’ll lick this thing dry like Oprah on a ham. It’s the patriotic thing to do! One ten thousand days. That’s it. I feel dizzy. Hang on. Let me remove one of my three masks and the one up my ass. Masks are key to all this. I’m gonna give it to you straight as any….is that you Skippy? God damn it is! Skippy was the damn finest brass knuckles brawler this side of the Delaware bay! He could knock you out with a swing and a miss and pummel shadows. Tell you what. We sure could use Skippy Knucks. That’s what I called him. He’d knock the crap out of Covid. And Trump too. Look. I’m not gonna sugar coat it like that well-spoken negro used to say. It’s going to be long, cold, dark winter. Even in Florida and Arizona. That’s why I’ve instructed my team, a team I personally baked and proud of, to make cookies. Lots of them. And I will also make sure in the first 90 days we pick a country and bomb the shit out of it because Trump was irresponsible. Look. You can’t have peace building these shitty alliances. Come on man! Morocco and Israel? Peace only goes through Iran, China and my pockets. So when these pockets are empty I fill it up. Where’s Hunter? God damn that fuck up is going to land me in jail some day I tell ya. Like Skippy. Those were the days. I’m gonna bring those back. Bare feet, with your squeeze by your side on the boardwalk eating cotton candy and frozen custard. With masks. Lotsa masks. We’re gonna have those masks dispensers on ever corner. I’m gonna go now but always remember we made this election happen thanks to an incredible team of crooks I’ve ever seen. Where’s Nancy? There you are. I gotta say, you musta been something back in the day. A looker. I can just see you on the hood of a Chevy. Or a Dodge. Or a Mustang. Or a Chevelle. Or a Pinto….

        /aide graps mic. Thanks Joes. PRESIDENT-ELECT JOE BIDEN EVERYONE!

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  2. Stock market futures quickly slumped on the prospect that the economic aid could be in doubt.

    Is the market once again an indication of the strength of our economy? I’m getting whiplash.

    1. It is actually quite simple; if the market goes up, it is because of the great things Basement Bunker Biden will do, if it goes down, it is because of all the evil things attributed to Trump.
      Next year it will go up because of all the things Biden announces he will do, if it goes down, it is because of the lingering effects of the evil Trump did.

      1. It is going up because they are printing money, devaluing the dollar that buys a stock. My portfolio is up from last march when it had dropped 30%. What are people going to do with that check from the government? Many will just invest it. I have something of value when I buy WalMart or Caterpillar that has intrinsic value. Holding cash that is dropping in value due to printing is foolish. There is no valid reason for the value to go up overall in the market with the reduced economic activity force on us.

    2. no, it’s an indicator of how likely the government is to prop up the stock market

      1. Yerp. The Market stopped being a reliable indicator for future growth around 2010.

  3. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1341375601417007105.html

    Everything about the pandemic, culminating in the Covid stimulus/budget debacle, is a painful reminder that your ruling class does not see itself as “public servants” by any stretch of the imagination. They think their calling is to control you, shape you, reeducate you.

    For the ruling class, their personal fetishes and ideological obsessions are VASTLY more important than your very life. You get pocket change while they pour countless billions into everything that matters to THEM. They couldn’t be more insultingly obvious about it.

    The illusion that voters have any meaningful control over the central government grows thin. Even during the worst crisis of our lifetimes, the ruling class thinks NOTHING of flipping us off while seizing our national wealth for their privileged concerns. No hesitation at all.

    This is the inherent corruption of statism. People are seduced with fairy tales about wise elites making brilliant plans that deliver maximum good to the people, guiding us with a vision so much broader, deeper, and less selfish than grubby little people and greedy businesses.

    But you see now, again, at a cost of trillions of dollars, the ugly truth: there is NO ONE more selfish and short-sighted than the political class in Washington. Even the robber barons of old at least built some useful stuff that outlived them.
    Brilliant designs? Long-term vision? Selfless devotion to national service? Give me a damn break. Your ruling class doesn’t even LIKE this nation, for the most part, let alone feel any sense of duty towards it. All they see is loot and pillage, for themselves and their allies.

    All they see when they look to the future is taxpayers yet unborn, who they can plunder today with deficit spending. They aren’t thinking any further than the next frenzied spending bill. Their mega-government collapses in a useless heap at the first sign of real crisis.

    Notice that no matter how much money they siphon out of the private sector, no matter how much deficit money they spend, they ALWAYS claim every single function of government is catastrophically underfunded whenever it’s called upon to do anything.

    I call it coin-operated statism: they spend trillions building this titanic government, but if you want it to actually DO anything useful, you have to shove more cash into in the coin slot. It’s a system that only “solves” largely imaginary problems that profit the ruling class.

    It’s heartless greed on a breathtaking scale, illustrated once again by the ruling class slobbering over the opportunity to exploit the pandemic for political and financial gain. It’s corruption baked in so deep that it’s hard to find anything honest left in the system.

    And rest assured, nobody involved in this disgusting festival of lust and greed thinks of YOU as their “boss.” At best, you’re an obstacle to be overcome during election season. They would laugh at the notion of putting YOUR needs, priorities, or livelihood above their own.

    Every single organ of the State spends all day, every day, blasting that message at us: We loathsome deplorables are miserable, everything we want is foolish and hateful, our history is filled with evil. We’re all criminals, America is a prison, politicians are the wardens.

    Schools, media, popular culture, government programs – all of it sends that message. We’ve been beaten into submission. We can only register a flicker of dull surprise at times like this, when the ruling class proves once again how greedy and short-sighted it is.

    1. “This is the inherent corruption of statism. People are seduced with fairy tales about wise elites making brilliant plans that deliver maximum good to the people, guiding us with a vision so much broader, deeper, and less selfish than grubby little people and greedy businesses.”

      A growing number of Americans hardly need seduction. They lead the rush into dependency, begging for a controlled environment and comforting (pandering?) leadership. These are not oblivious frogs; these are frogs begging for more heat.

      1. (pandering?)

        No need for ?

        “Can I get a little empathy ova hyar?”

        Haha. JFC.

    2. Notice that no matter how much money they siphon out of the private sector, no matter how much deficit money they spend, they ALWAYS claim every single function of government is catastrophically underfunded whenever it’s called upon to do anything.

      They’re not necessarily wrong. 60% or so of Federal spending is on some form of welfare. That tends to crowd out the ability of the government to do things where some actual effort is required.

    3. “….,,,,ALWAYS claim every single function of government is catastrophically underfunded….”

      Yeah, that gets old. Yet, resentful useful idiots want them to have even more.

      I can’t even….

  4. “To be sure, the president’s broadsides against a spending deal that includes lots of money for ‘lobbyists, foreign countries, and special interests’ is certainly welcome, and, frankly, on target,” writes Reason‘s Christian Britschgi.

    Secret MAGA in our midst!

  5. Republicans keep trying to turn everything into a fight over Section 230. With President Donald Trump threatening to veto both a defense spending measure and an omnibus bill to fund government programs, Sen. Lindsey Graham (R–S.C.) is suggesting this could change if Democrats throw an anti-Section 230 clause into the mix. ………..USA HOME information.

    1. Except apparently the Covid stimulus bill.

  6. REVEALED: Every single US state is being advised to consider ethnic minorities as critical groups for vaccination with HALF prioritizing black and Hispanic residents over white
    https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9070555/Half-states-want-prioritize-black-Hispanic-people-vaccine-rollout.html

    Half of US states mentioned racial equity in their plans for vaccine rollout
    Of these, 12 states specifically mention efforts to ‘reach diverse populations’
    California, Louisiana, New Mexico, North Carolina, and Indiana are among those who have listed equity as a ‘key principle for vaccine distribution’
    New Jersey, California and Kansas will focus on improving access to the vaccine by targeting transportation issues
    New Mexico will focus on Native American communities
    Many states will be focusing on their communication to black communities who have shown in increased hestitance to take a vaccine
    In the US, black and Hispanic people are almost three times more likely to die from Covid-19 than whites

    1. https://twitter.com/MHackman/status/1341049677953773569

      Family members of unauthorized immigrants are now eligible to get stimulus checks under the $900 billion deal reached last night. That eligibility is retroactive, so adults excluded last time could get up to $1800 now

      To clarify, the Cares act blocked *U.S. Citizens* from receiving stimulus checks if their spouse or parent was in the country illegally. The money goes to these people.

    2. Great. Now wk us going to come in with his xenophobia and ask why we are reading things from England.

      1. No, I’m not. Glad to know I live in your head, though.

        1. Cite?

        2. So just Canadians irk you?

          1. Wait. Probably just foreigners smarter than you. Which is a lot. Should probably drop that sensitivity.

          2. Well, really just Mother’s Lament. Honestly, all schtick aside, I kind of like Canadians.

            1. Particularly Justin Beiber and Nickelback.

              1. You take that back!!!

              2. “Now sir, the Canadian government has apologized many times for Bryan Adams…”

        3. Glad you like to confirm that you’re autistic.

          1. I gotta ask: can you walk me though a connection of dots to how that makes me autistic, because that is a total non-sequitur.

            1. I could, but I don’t think you’d get it.

              1. So, you got nuthin’.

                  1. She’s too autistic to get it.

    3. the libertarian solution would work better:
      let companies sell the vaccines to the highest bidders.
      let Bill Gates buy some for those who are priced out.

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  9. Trump’s issue seems to be with the whole omnibus spending bill, though he keeps erroneously referring to that as the COVID-19 relief package.

    It’s the China Flu relief package.

    1. Why are we giving China relief for flu? Let them handle it.

  10. https://twitter.com/alexsalvinews/status/1341484189963587585

    Reporter: “Do you still believe the stories from the fall about your son Hunter were Russian disinformation?”

    Biden: “Yes. God love you, man! You are a one-horse pony … My DOJ will be totally on its own making judgments about how they should proceed.”

    1. I look forward to leadership from this brilliant man.

      1. Enjoy it while it lasts.

        Am I the only one thinking that the media will dribble this out slowly to encourage Biden to resign “for health reasons” but not tell us enough to prove to people paying attention to how corrupt the SOB really is?

        I had been thinking they will force Biden out after the midterms to let Harris run as an incumbent twice, but they may want to strike while the iron is hot, deal with Jill Harris wanting to be Edith Wilson, and let Biden not die actually in office.

        1. Harris once locked up a mother with 3 jobs because her kids were truant. She won’t dare touch Sarcasmics bae. Hunter is safe even if Joe steps down.

          1. You think about me way too much. It’s downright creepy.

            1. Nah. Youre just the new jeff. It amuses me. How many responses to me did you have yesterday sweetie?

              What goes around comes around. Why you’re a biden cultist for the next 4 years. You did cheer his win on despite youre drunken remembering. You called everyone you disagreed with a trump cultist for years.

              But as it is the holidays ill stop jumping into threads with hyperbolic unrelated strawman like you did for a year. So happy holidays. May the peppermint schnapps not give you rabid shits. Cheers!

              1. A lot of that was Tulpa, not me. Again you know this but you insist upon being dishonest.

                1. Sure thing drunkard.

                2. Pathetic.

              2. Trump lost. Lol.

            2. Who, exactly, are all the Mean Girls sarc?

          2. If we try had a just society kamala would have had her cunt self beaten to death in a prison yard

        2. I had assumed it would have been before the convention but now I agree it will happen sometime in the next year…for sure if the Republicans take back the house and keep the senate in 22. There is already enough evidence, much more than against Trump, to begin impeachment proceedings. That farce will come back to bite the dem’s. they have lowered the bar to such extent that this will be a no brainer and they will not be able to say this is a nothing charge. I am sure once they start in earnest to investigate these charges he will resign “for health reasons”. The question then is who will Harris pick to be her VP? My money is on Michelle Obama.

          1. SleepyJoe is a brilliant man with a quick and clever mind. How else could a simple civil servant amass a multi million dollar fortune from being on the federal payroll for 50 years?

            1. Nobody can yet explain the near 10 million payout from one of his corporations to him in 2017 when his book sales only amassed at best 3 million from sales reports.

              1. The art of the deal.

        3. If Biden dies in office, would that be a restart of the Curse of Tippecanoe?

    2. Joe: “Stories from the fall? I didn’t fall. I was playing with my dog!”

    3. I wonder if this will be considered obstruction of justice…

  11. https://twitter.com/PDChina/status/1341654783967383553

    China’s offshore oil and gas production has reached 65 million tons in 2020, setting a new record high, as the offshore production has grown to become key contributor to national energy security, China National Offshore Oil Corporation announced Wed.

    1. What odd units for measuring O&G production. Not barrels, MCF, or BTUs?

      They’re the next signatories to the Green New Deal, right?

  12. Now Reason, who can fuck off and die, will slam Biden

    https://twitter.com/NickMiroff/status/1341354272181501952

    NEW — Biden will not immediately roll back Trump immigration and border restrictions, Susan Rice and Jake Sullivan tell Spanish news agency EFE, and Title 42, MPP etc will take time to undo, despite campaign promises for “Day One” reversals

    Biden team clearly worried about new border surge: “Migrants and asylum seekers absolutely should not believe those in the region peddling the idea that the border will suddenly be fully open to process everyone on Day 1. It will not,” Rice told EFE.

    1. But they will say nice things, so it’s ok.

    2. The Supreme Court already established that you can’t unwind illegal policies that didn’t follow the correct procedures unless you yourself follow the correct procedures to unwind them.

      1. No, the Supreme Court established that Trump can’t unwind illegal policies done by Obama without following correct procedures.

      2. Calvinball rules only apply to non-Calvins.

  13. Even big chain stores in New York City are taking a pandemic hit…

    More like a government, medical “expert” and pajama class hit. (I’ll be using that term quite often from now on.)

    1. Of course, some of those big chain stores are actually small business franchises, but “what difference, at this point, does it make?”

  14. Meanwhile, China is teaching their kids STEM…

    https://twitter.com/drvictoriafox/status/1341578607940886531

    Wow! NPR tonight. Teachers justifying why it’s better for schools to be closed. “Kids are resilient. Parents tell me their kids are falling behind but they have to understand they are falling behind in arbitrary developmental goals we’ve set”.

    1. To be fair, for many progressive parents, kids are more like pets or fashion accessories.

    2. Apt response in one of the comments.

      Spite dressed up as altruism

    3. The belief by teachers, especially those with doctorates, that merits and grades are racist and measuring someone’s knowledge impedes them is one of the biggest threats to our society.

      1. Nongraded schools can work. You can have pass/fail instead. The students who complain are the hardest working so often a pass with honors is thrown in.

        In the lower grades Montessori for example was opposed to grades. At the upper levels there are universities which are non graded. Havard law school does not have grades. Oxford does not have grades. There are medical schools that do not have grades.

        In the long run even in the younger classes what difference do they make? Even after if you graduate does anyone care what your grades were?

        But not for the reasons above.

        1. Law school is about passing the bar. So the bar exam is your grade

    4. “…they are falling behind in arbitrary developmental goals we’ve set”…”

      Like, oh, adding one and one and getting two?

      1. Setting goals for kids like learning to read and write and do math are arbitrary when you believe that truth is entirely subjective and insisting that it’s not is racist, colonialist, oppressive remnants of the patriarchy. Don’t be surprised when your kid graduates from high school not even knowing how to eat with a fork or to come in out of the rain. For all that the Left claims to be progressive, they seem hellbent on seeing us regress right back into the Stone Age.

        1. But how does ABCDF change any of that. In a pass/fail system you have to pass to move on to the next stage. You give the student a chance to try again and if they don’t they have to repeat the subject.

          Of course it is not about all of that bullshit.

          1. So, getting straight A’s is the same as “passing”? No need to parse it any further?

            Huh.

  15. Local story

    https://twitter.com/SirajAHashmi/status/1341571606406164482

    so, are we going to believe Raphael Warnock’s ex-wife, Oulèye Ndoye, because he’s a Dem and control of the U.S. Senate is at stake or nah?

    “I’ve tried to keep the way he acts under wraps for a long time, and today he crossed a line…. And he is a great actor.”

    Bodycam footage of police responding to the domestic dispute between Raphael Warnock and his then wife aired just now on Tucker

    1. https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1341564514991390720

      Guessing it would probably be covered in Wash Post, New York Times, MSNBC, NBC Evening News, CBS Evening News, ABC Evening news and their morning shows as well. Happy to be proven wrong here.

      I’m going to go ahead and guess that if a Republican running for Senate’s wife was on bodycam footage crying over an assault and telling officers “He’s not who he pretends to be” @jaketapper and CNN probably wouldn’t ignore it.

      1. Story number 2 of him being abusive. Seems like a class act. But does he have mean tweets?

    2. How has she not had a ‘mysterious’ nighttime single-car, alcohol-related accident into a bridge abutment by now?

      I have standards I expect from my Evil, damnit.

      1. Brian Kemp’s daughter’s boyfriend did.
        And the GBI agent investigating then committed suicide.
        Coincidence abounds.

    3. Warnock doesn’t sound like he’s all that different from a lot of modern church ministers. In the black community in particular, these guys can be tremendously greedy assholes because they’re critical cogs in the Democratic political machine, and they know anyone wanting to get shine from them has to kiss their ring.

      1. I could go on and on about baptist churches in the Bible belt, but its an inside joke for southerners.

  16. The pandemic has brought out a new sexual puritanism…

    So I guess we’re carving out exceptions to the #MeToo Conventions signed two years ago.

    1. #NotMeEither

  17. Republicans: You libertarians need to support Republicans as the lesser of two evils. Its your fault we lose seats/elections.

    Trump: PRIMARY RINO JOHN THUNE IN 2022

  18. From the WSJ piece this morning on new lock-downs. WTF!!!

    In Chicago, where bars and restaurants are closed for indoor service and people are asked to limit social gatherings to six individuals, officials monitor social media to break up potential superspreader events.

    Chicago authorities said they work with Airbnb Inc. and Eventbrite Inc. to keep tabs on people renting party pads or selling tickets to illegal gatherings, and try to shut down parties before they start.

    A spokeswoman for Eventbrite said Chicago officials have focused on the company’s “Report This Event” feature, which allows users to flag questionable gatherings. A spokeswoman for Airbnb said the company has banned parties at rentals and won’t allow one-night bookings over New Year’s Eve. She added that Airbnb is working with local governments to crack down on people who violate local ordinances.

    1. Fascism redefined

      1. New meaning to party member

      2. Soft fascism is fine because private companies or something.

        1. See something, say something.

        2. So, a standard libertarian answer, which libertarians here should be aware of, is that Eventbrite and Airbnb do not have a lock on their market, and will lose out to their competitors if they start turning into a little private Stazi, spying on their customers. The free market can address this problem.

          1. No. A standard libertarian answer would be wary of government capture of industry through regulation and contracts. You choose to ignore that part of the market.

            1. I’m sure Chicago authorities just asked nicely and Airbnb and eventbrite agreed to this out of their concern for public health.

              I mean it’s Chicago, everything done by the government there is on the up and up.

            2. ^this

              The government controls industry in this country. These companies are doing this out of fear. And their competitors will have to comply as well.

              1. Georgia has a state law that companies are not liable if you acquire a virus using their facilities.

                Problem solved.

            3. Eventbrite is propped up by government?

              And Airbnb has a long tradition of being fought by governments trying to protect the hotel industry.

                1. You do this a lot. You have no cards in your hand, so you bluff by making a coy comment.

                  1. You do this a lot. Things go flying over your head, then you squawk about it.

  19. https://twitter.com/bruce_weingart/status/1341368945484378115

    There is literally video of this “alleged gunman” running through Old Jerusalem shooting an automatic weapon.
    @AP
    Quote Tweet
    HonestReporting
    @HonestReporting
    · Dec 22
    Want to understand how pervasive media bias works? Read on.

    Check out this awful headline from @AP. A gun was found on the scene, there are bullet casings and bullet holes on nearby walls.

    This isn’t simply an allegation. This was clearly was a gunman.

    1. If he wasn’t wearing a MAGA hat it doesn’t count

      1. There are a lot of people wearing MAGA hats on the streets of Israel?

        1. I like to laugh at you Dee when you don’t understand what’s going on.

          1. And you like to try to gaslight me by pretending I don’t know what’s going on, when you’ve got nuthin’.

            1. As you continue to prove you don’t know what’s going on.

              1. I was joking at first when I called her autistic, but now I’m not so sure.

    2. Isn’t the constant media gaslighting these days amazing?
      It’s like Pravda but without a visible Stalin.

      1. Collectivizing the dictator was a brilliant move.

    3. Pity we’ll never know what drove the gunman to commit this horrible act… Or how he got the guns and ammo in the first place, considering Israel has fairly stout gun control.

    4. You don’t know why they say that until there is an official inquiry?

  20. People should be able to engage with the counselor who can best meet their needs wherever they live and continue seeing that counselor if they move across the country…

    Look, the government didn’t spur a crisis just to remove barriers to personal autonomy.

  21. https://twitter.com/HatfieldlawDean/status/1341516530840862720

    I was working as an attorney for DHS when DACA was implemented and we were instructed to say in court that DACA is nothing but an exercise of prosecutorial discretion, is not a program, and creates no reliance interest. In short, we were used to mislead the courts.

  22. The spending bill is decriminalizing dressing up like Smokey the Bear.

    Beto O’Rourke most benefits.

    1. Please, everybody knows Beto prefers Sexual Harassment Panda. Or Winnie the Pooh.

      1. Hey, somebody has to suck that little yellow dick. And the NBA is busy.

        1. You don’t think Lebron can multitask?

  23. Learn to code:

    https://twitter.com/Mark_J_Perry/status/1341463782304985097
    The ongoing collapse of US newspaper jobs in one chart.

  24. So Trump has been a puppet for Lindsey Graham all along? What a twist!

  25. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341725328205557761

    DATA HELD HOSTAGE, day 5. Five straight days in which
    @cdcgov
    has not released updated adverse event data on #Covid vaccines.

    They have it. They are getting it basically in real time. Why won’t they share it?

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  27. https://twitter.com/AlexBerenson/status/1341735032151531524?s=19

    1/ No they didn’t. 3,400 people had a positive PCR test for #sarscov2 and died some time afterwards. Some died from #covid, some died with #Covid, some died near #Covid. Until we get excess mortality data (and adjust it to the extent possible for lockdown deaths) we won’t know…

    2/ Here’s the most recent “#Covid” death in Milwaukee, by the way. 85, in congestive heart failure, with Alzheimer’s. Entirely typical. You want to say she died from #Covid, go ahead.

    1. This is the new normal.

    2. Covid surpasses heart disease as the number 1 killer in the US. Now we know how…

    3. I noticed that government officials are saying “with” not “from” when talking about COVID deaths. Even they admit that the numbers are people who die while testing positive, regardless of the cause of death.

      1. Hey. Welcome to march when this was pointed out and demurred by your buddies here. Even with evidence of Colorado reassignment of died with to died from showing a 30% decrease in death numbers.

        Good work buddy.

        1. You mean when I was saying that someone could die in a skydiving accident, test positive, and be counted as a COVID death? Yeah, I remember. Try being honest for a change.

          1. No it doesn’t work that way.

            This is a typical case.

            You have a 70 yo with heart disease and type 2 diabetes. She is stable and doing find. Comes in with shortness of breath. You find covid pneumonia. Over the next week the pneumonia gets worse and she is progressively hypoxic requiring respiratory support. Over the next few days her kidneys fail. She goes into heart failure and eventually cardiac arrest.

            What did she die from?

            1. Renal failure is what she died from according to your hypothetical.

              1. Or you can put life killed her. We all die.

                Masks pussies are just justifying tyranny by lying about kungflu.

                Lefties lied before jan 2020 and they still lie.

  28. https://twitter.com/boriquagato/status/1341747532192382976

    “if so many smart people knew that this covid response was absurd and unwarranted, why did so few speak out?”

    this is an interesting question.

    i think a great deal of the answer hinges upon the one-sidedness of the bet that requires.

    let’s perform a thought experiment:

    1. History repeats. This has happened in most cultural “revolutions”. The red guard. The SS. Etc. It is a fear of the crowd turning on you, so you sit silently. Over time small takes from the revolution become norms and they pull more and more. Eventually millions are starved, tens of thousands imprisoned, etc.

      The new form taken is your average Karen. You see it even here with self proclaimed libertarians tacitly accepting mask mandates and calling those who disobey assholes. Just ignore the science flipped at the will of a government or a political belief. 50 years down the drain. Lysenkoism is the new normal here. And even these people are proclaiming their turns to be on morals. You are witnessing a downfall.

      1. Wearing an old t shirt strapped to your face is now “science” and “showing respect “ at the same time.

      2. So you’re saying you like to spit in old people’s faces?

        1. That is the dichotomy of action that has been set up. But I do it timidly only when their mouths are closed.

  29. https://twitter.com/catturd2/status/1341691892795322368?s=19

    I had a nightmare last night that we lived in a country where a sitting member of Congress could bang a Chinese spy and nothing would happen – because of a two-tiered justice system.

    1. The good news is that when you woke up, you found it had not been a nightmare?

    2. I dunno that Swalwell should go to jail. Not until it was conclusively shown he was deliberately leaking classified material to her. But for God’s sake, take his fucking Intelligence Committee seat away from him.

      Anyone go to jail for the Awan disaster? No? Just checking. Hell, Congress gave them back pay…https://www.nytimes.com/2020/11/25/business/congress-settlement.html

    3. But meeting with actual spies with a meeting agenda of “Russian government support for trump campaign” is A ok?

      Explain to me how that is not hypocrisy.

      1. Keep the faith, comrade

        1. That really happened. They have the emails, and Trump and his son and son in law have all admitted that that happened.

          Now what do you say?

      2. De Oppresso Liber’s purpose is to distract.
        If you argue with him, he’s kept you from talking about he article he doesn’t want to talk about.

    4. Well something happened.

      Have you seen her? If you are going to bang a spy go for the Bond level chick.

  30. https://twitter.com/RichardGrenell/status/1341582750332014593?s=19

    Let’s hope @KaminskiMK’s @politico doesn’t get 50 former intelligence officials to call this Russian disinformation.

  31. https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1341756656695324673?s=19

    $33 billion to promote Democracy in Venezuela. That seems to be going well so far.

    1. Should have spent that promoting democracy in America.

      Next time copy how Canada, Sweden, Denmark, UK, Australia, NZ and Germany do it. Use paper ballots (with counterfeit protection measures), require ID and encourage in-person voting.

      America always spends a year barking about the importance of voting, and then treats the actual ballots like used toilet paper.

      1. Why would we want to copy anything those places do? Look all of you former britishers do things British anyway. We fought a war to get rid of them. Germany is hardly the model to follow for elections and Denmark doesn’t count. They just get together for some beers and decide who they all want.

        1. You just held DPRK-tier elections.
          Even Germany would be a light-years worth of improvement.

          1. More Trumpkin.lies about nonexistent election fraud. (Sigh.)

  32. https://twitter.com/PetiteNicoco/status/1341615189582618624?s=19

    One good thing to come out of all of the stimulus bill discourse has been the memes

  33. https://twitter.com/mtracey/status/1341417235802451971

    So interesting that Congress snuck into its behemoth COVID/omnibus bill a declaration of the 2020 Belarus presidential election as “fraudulent” on eerily similar grounds as the current US president is declaring the 2020 US presidential election to have been fraudulent

    1. https://twitter.com/thenvindy/status/1341418218443976706?s=21

      “Trump supporters asked me to look into voter fraud in Nevada; what I found debunked what they were alleging”

    2. Nice try, troll.

  34. https://twitter.com/ggreenwald/status/1340735383169093632

    I’ll never forget how public health experts & media fans spent months viciously shaming anyone who left home – to go to a deserted beach or outdoor political rally – only to shift on a dime & announce attending densely packed street protests was not only permissible but mandatory

    1. After humiliating anyone who left home for any reason as a sociopath who wanted to kill Grandma, they instantly invented a new rationale to say that participating in mass protests was not just obligatory politically but *mandated by the public health!*

  35. https://twitter.com/RandPaul/status/1341754790825607168?s=19

    Good morning and Happy #Festivus. Today we will air some more grievances in the holiday tradition!

    1. I gotta lotta problems with you people, and now you’re gonna hear about it!

      Ron can, and does still humiliate Rand in feats of strength, I hear.

  36. “(230 is) a federal communications law that helps protect free speech and free enterprise online”

    The White Knight
    December.18.2020 at 8:08 pm

    (230) is a rare example of well-crafted, free market enabling regulation.

    Reason writers and shitposters agree; “special protections are totes libertarian”.

    1. There isn’t anything libertarian about Reason being forced to respond to White Knight in court because some shitposter said something shitty about him on their website.

      1. Maybe that’s why the shitposters are unanimously against 230. Because they want to go into the comments and get hosts shut down.

        1. They certainly feel excluded.

          I remain convinced that half the trolls out there don’t realize they’re trolls. They think that’s the way the internet thingy operates, and the rest of us are just being mean to them.

        2. Seriously look at some of Shrike’s post sometime.

          He thinks we’re supposed to find his shit persuasive.

          Not kidding!

          1. If you mean squirrely I think he considers himself a court jester.

            1. You dont realize for years you’ve been a shit poster? Youre often the first into a thread with hyperbolic strawman or calling anyone who disagrees with you a trump cultist. You are literally a shit poster sweetie. Again, the lack of self awareness.

            2. By the way. I openly admit I attack you, chipper, jeff and the rest of the cosplay crew. You all claim high morality and sanctity when having called everyone who dared not be against every trump policy a cultist for 4 years. So I attack you willingly and gladly because you’re the shit that corrupts this board. If you notice I interact with others just fine. But you act sanctimonious while attacking anyone who is right of amash, which is most of the libertarian party. You ignore all good done by trump and conservatives and willingly threw it away for biden who promises nothing towards liberty.

              Youre just a shitty person whose ideals are lazy and consist of things that can’t be achieved in reality because the world isn’t perfect. And you attack other who have realized this because you can’t handle a deep thought.

              1. That post is a perfect example of why I no longer say leftists operate on emotion while conservatives tend to be more rational. The great irony of “Trump Derangement Syndrome” is that it’s his followers who are deranged.

                1. You act emotionally in most of your posts dear. Do you not realize that? You claim it is sarcasm but it is more often than not. This is the self awareness i mention.

                  1. Nah. You just take things seriously when it’s obvious to everyone else that I’m not being serious. I can’t tell if it’s because you’re completely humorless or because you’re dishonest. I’m going with a bit of both.

                    1. Maybe you could just let us know ahead of time when you start drinking so we’ll know when to take you seriously?

                    2. It’s never him, always Tulpa.

              2. “So I attack you willingly and gladly because you’re the shit that corrupts this board. If you notice I interact with others just fine.”

                At least you admit to having the maturity of someone in high school.

                1. Why should I act more mature than you do? It doesn’t buy me anything of importance.

                  1. It could buy you a bit of respect and credibility. Well, probably not. Too late for that.

              3. “Youre just a shitty person whose ideals are lazy and consist of things that can’t be achieved in reality because the world isn’t perfect. And you attack other who have realized this because you can’t handle a deep thought.”

                Says the guy who honestly believes that if you’re not all-in with Trump then you’re a leftist. Then you say I can’t handle a deep thought? Talk about irony.

                1. Cite? Lol. And back to the cultist comment because you can’t argue rationally. This is why I dont put the effort in and stoop to your level. Lol.

                  1. Yeah, your idea of a rational argument is “sarc and Biden, sitting in a tree….”

                    1. And yours is behaving like a sarcastic 12 year old.

              4. Cry, baby cry! Pathetic self-deluders wander into a libertarian magazine to sell Christianity’s Hitler initiation of force. The only alternative–we would be idiots to believe–is the other, Stalinist looters, who have also been wrecking the economy for over a century. Meanwhile libertarian spoiler votes surgically remove their lamentable pawns from office and force them to change their platforms–and freedom increases. That’s the part that really hurts them. That someone, somewhere, might be happy.

              5. Cry more, Jesse.

        3. Yoyre on the same side as people that thought net neutrality not passing would end the internet. Youre simply not a smart person.

          I do have a fun post from you yesterday about people not acting rationally and rather through emotion. Your lack of self awareness is stunning. Lol.

          If the protection is good, extend it to all industries. Yet you rely solely on it being on one industry. You also ignore how SV courts have interpreted it to cover contract and ToS clauses. You have no knowledge of unconscionable contracts and actively promote then for SV companies. Why? Is it ignorance? You claim to be a libertarian yet accept soft fascism through partnerships of multi nationals and government. Just admit youre a globalist like chipper and jeff. Would save yourself some time.

          1. “Just admit youre a globalist like chipper and jeff.”

            If by that you mean I support free trade, even if it’s unilateral, then I suppose so.

  37. No matter what you read condemning or support Trump’s demand for changes in the $900 billion stimulus package, most of Congress has gone home for Christmas. It is highly unlikely that Congress will come back and vote to change the $900 billion stimulus package.

    It remains to be seen whether President Trump will actually veto the bill. We can only hope he does. He’ll probably sign it reluctantly, but if he doesn’t, Congress is likely to come back and sign a bill to keep the government funded through the end of Trump’s term and just leave it at that.

    It’s important to remember, however, that the alternative to this spending bill isn’t no bill at all. It isn’t Congress being forced to craft a bill that President Jo Jorgensen will sign either. The alternative to this bill is a bill negotiated under the shadow of Joe Biden’s signature, and when congressional Democrats are negotiating with that leverage behind them, chances are that bailing out state and local government will be back on the table again.

    I feel like Milton Friedman writing about the Fed. His argument always went something like, “I strongly recommend that you get rid of the Fed. Since I know you won’t do that, here’s what I suggest . . . “. As a libertarian capitalist and a tax hating fiscal conservative, I want the stimulus to die and do away forever. Since that isn’t one of the options, the stimulus that pushes $427 billion in already authorized spending off the table and out of BIden’s reach, I’m not sure Trump shouldn’t go ahead and sign it.

    But don’t underestimate President Trump’s desire to make some big headlines one last time. He could ruin the holidays for Congress, and that, by itself, is reason to suspect he might stick his turd in their punch bowl. Here’s hoping he does, that both Republicans in the Georgia senate races win, and the Republicans hold firm on refusing to bail out state and local government. I want to believe, but I don’t.

    All 51 senators all holding their ground on principle despite Biden and the Democrats offering any one of them a windfall for their state if they break ranks?

    Now tell us the one about how Frosty the Snowman is real.

    1. It is highly unlikely that Congress will come back and vote to change the $900 billion stimulus package.

      Pelosi wants it done by acclimation – which means she wants it done the same way they tried to do the original stimulus where Congress doesn’t even have to be there to take the vote. You’re gonna need somebody to step up and be the turd in the punchbowl like Massie was last time to demand that Congress actually be in session – physically there in the Capitol – to take a vote.

      1. 195 Republicans in the House and 51 Republicans in the senate, surely there’s an asshole in that woodpile somewhere.

    2. There’s nothing that says a new and bigger stimulus bill must happen after Biden gets into office.

      And passing this one won’t stop that if it’s in the cards.

      So, veto away Mr Trump, I say.

      1. Passing this one will stop Biden from spending $427 billion that he is authorized to spend from the last stimulus bill if the $900 billion stimulus isn’t passed.

        That’s why the $900 billion stimulus bill really only costs $473 billion in new spending.

    3. I’m on board with Milton, I doubt he was being short-sighted.

      You got it right, one result of Trump’s veto, which is the RIGHT THING TO DO, is that everyone will be talking about it at Christmas.
      Bar chatter and restaurant chatter shutdowns plus masks means no one’s been debating this stuff with their friends and family.

      As far as passing this bill to avoid future bill boogeymen? No dice.
      Just like chatter of Trump running in 2024 has stopped.
      It’s about 2020, now. People are taking a stand. We’re not compromising the Present to weasel into the Future. It doesn’t work. We get screwed every time.

      Forget Trump’s motives, possible alternative outcomes, etc.
      It’s his duty as a self-described man-of-the-people and deep-state destroyer to veto this. He gets a win for publicly shaming Congress, and DOING THE RIGHT THING, period.

    4. Yep. Losing has gotten even the most green-teeth rednecks to shift their patter from bullying girls and shooting hippies for racial Eugenics toward again pretending Wilson’s and Glass’ Fed, not Volstead Act, padlockings and asset forfeiture caused money to flee banks and brokerages and bring on Herbert Hoover’s Great Depression and defeat. It’s not much, but it is progress. “Four More Wins” would be the Dems’ new slogan if only they understood the facts.

    5. The Fed was made to facilitate exploitation of the European war, which it did. Prohibition caused two crashes and one Great Depression via looting and coercing mainly Americans. Increased penalties convinced depositors to withdraw their money from banks and brokerages and collapse the banking system. Republicans will hear any burden, tell any lie, bomb any country and kick down any door to keep the truth about the consistent cause of all their depressions and recessions from leaking out.

  38. The video “landed like a sonic boom in Washington. His own aides were stunned,” says The Washington Post. “Congressional aides were stunned. Stock market futures quickly slumped on the prospect that the economic aid could be in doubt. And the implications for what happens next could be severe. If he refuses to sign the bill, the government will shut down on Dec. 29. The $900 billion in emergency economic aid will be frozen, and the race for the two Senate seats in Georgia could also be upended.”

    “Landed like a sonic boom”? Does the person coming up with these metaphors even speak English?

    Everybody was stunned? Do you know how many people were outraged, calling this bill a piece of shit, complaining that this was the same old “return to normalcy” that got Trump elected in the first place, urging Trump to veto the bill? You’re either easier to stun than a fainting goat or you have no fucking clue as to what the people outside of your little bubble are thinking.

    The stock market reacted badly? Have you actually checked the DJIA?

    The government is going to shut down if Trump doesn’t sign the bill? Congress can’t just present him with a new bill?

    The $900B in aid will be “frozen”? When will it thaw out? Oh, if Trump vetoes the bill there’s not going to be any goddamn $900B in aid, frozen or not?

    The Senate runoffs in Georgia will be “upended”? You mean the Republicans might win? Or are you fucking concern-trolling us that you’re worried the Democrats might win?

    Pure piece of shit from start to finish. If WaPo had any shame, they’d be embarrassed to publish this crap, and if you had any shame you’d be embarrassed to quote it.

    1. Right after Trump was first elected, someone somewhere made the observation that where Trump’s supporters take him seriously without taking him literally, Trump’s critics take him literally without taking him seriously. I think that’s what’s happening here.

      They keep pointing out that Trump wasn’t even really involved in the negotiations for the bill–as if that means he has no business criticizing it. I suspect that’s a big part of why Trump is criticizing it. He doesn’t like being excluded from policy.

      My grandfather was a minister, and he used to take me along on his visits to people in nursing homes and the hospital. He taught me a lot about what to say and do around dying people and their family members–and what not to do. One of the worst things you can do (and so many people do) is start talking about a dying man in front of him to his family as if he were already dead. They can get really upset about that.

      That’s what Congress just did with this bill, and I think that’s probably the extent of how seriously we should read Trump’s tweet. They treating him as if he were already gone. He’s basically telling the world, “Fuck you guys, I’m not dead yet”.

      1. He’s not dead he’s just resting.

        You’ve got him nailed to the perch!

        He’s pining for the fiords.

      2. That and trump can be the bad guy so weak Republicans can say we tried but mean old Trump vetoed it.

        Possible quid pro quo for Jan 6?

  39. Isn’t this all going to become moot? I thought Trump was declaring martial law – must be true, I read it right here.

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    2. Everyone I know has been arrested.

      1. Lucky bastard, everybody I know has already been gassed in the camps.

      2. I’m keeping a low profile just in case. Got a bunch of canned goods, little Debbie snack cakes, Cheetos and box wine. I’m good for a while.

  40. I say let Trump veto them. That will give the Ds a much stronger chance to take the Senate in the GA run offs. The south loves the military and Trump vetoing military funding could lead to some solid attack ads.
    As for the other bill, the people of GA are in the same economic boat as the rest of the country, so if he vetos it it will just piss off more GA voters and lead to better attack ads.
    Either way I am confident both bills will end passing, either by an over ride vote or President Biden will sign it after it gets passed again.

    1. Fuck off cunt you’re not winning the senate.

      1. The race is within 1%, so it could go either way, and Trump pulling stupid stunts could make the difference. But I do agree that the Rs have a much better chance.

        1. Remember, the self described libertarian Molly thinks not spending 1 trillion dollars is a stupid stunt.

          1. Wait, Molly tried to claim she’s not a far leftist? That’s funny.

        2. Poor lefties think they know Georgia.

          Senator Perdue beat ossoff by 80,000 votes even with the massive democrat election fraud. That is with every democrat who would vote voting for ossoff.

          Loeffler and perdue win just like Trump won Georgia. But hey, nothing tens of thousands of illegal mailin absentee ballots by democrats cant dix.

          1. Trump lost GA, delusional one.

    2. LOL – the only people I’ve heard complaining about Trump threatening to veto this bill are Democrats. In case you haven’t noticed, Trump isn’t threatening to veto this bill because he doesn’t want people to get $600, he’s threatening to veto the bill because he wants people to get more than $600, much more. I’m sure in your fevered imagination there’s tons of people pissed off about getting more money, but everybody I know considers $600 to be a slap in the face, they’re cheering Trump for sticking up for the little guy. Take that concern-trolling shit elsewhere.

      1. People are probably more pussed at AOC for her awarded tweet and then voting twice to allow the bill to pass quickly without review. She voted in lockstep with all democrats to bypass the 3 day required reading rule in the House. She complained after this vote she didn’t have time to read. Like most democrats she is a fake.

      2. If Trump vetos the bill, then they get nothing until Congress over rides the veto. So it would delay the bill for at lease a week with no gain. Ya, the Ds wanted more, but the Rs did not and they got the bill that the Rs could support. If Trump vetos then it puts the Rs is a really bad position that will not help them at all. Last I heard the Ds will put a stand alone bill on the floor next week that ups the $600 to $2000 and daring the Rs to block it.
        The Ds are shit at playing the political game, but they still may have enough sense to use a veto to beat it over the head of the Rs on the ticket in Georgia. “Congress passed a bill to provide much needed aid to struggling families in Georgia, and President Trump vetoed it. Perdue and Loeffler stand with Trump, who stands against Georgia families.”

        1. If the D’s put a stand-alone bill on the menu, the R’s will gobble it up. The fight has always been over all the other shit the Dems want to cram in there as “Coronavirus Relief” that are really “Dems Hold Power For Forever”.

          1. They would have to do it though unanimous consent, so it only takes one Congressperson to force the bill to go through the whole process.

        2. I don’t think he cares at this point. He is a very focused individual. He is only focused on his conviction that the election was stolen and he will find a way to get back into office.

          This is just his way to buy support and votes for himself.

          1. Poor lefties still believe biden will be able to steal the election win.

            Luckily, electoral college, state legislatures, the SCOTUS, and Americans have a say in the massive democrat election fraud.

          2. The guy is rich. He pulled the GOP out of the Mitt & Palin Klan rallies and War on Women dixiecrat policies that made even Obama and Biden look good to voters. And he’d be president in January. But noooo… Linseed Graham Cracker had to promise that he and Judge Amy would bring back coathanger abortions as in Nixon-era Romania. Even Ireland gave up on letting pederasts and harridans use the law to torture and enslave women. Learning can be painful.

            1. Trump’s loss had nothing to do with abortion, you feminist beta cuck.

            2. You’re just as insufferable as the Trump morons who post here.

      3. Trump vetoed the spending bill.

  41. If he refuses to sign the bill, the government will shut down on Dec. 29.

    oh noes! not that! anything but that!

  42. Sounds pretty libertarian, wanting to repeal or weaken unnecessary Internet regulations.

  43. I look forward to the government giving me a little back from what it takes.

    1. Closest I ever got was a couple books from the library I didn’t return.

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  45. Why is Trump awarding a free kick to whomever is out of the frame to his right?

  46. The one bit of the economy that has not collapsed during the pandemic is the Internet sector.

    You aren’t saving our economy with these miserly bills by ALSO killing that part too.

    You know what? Good. These tech goons have gleefully been indulging in these lockdowns because they can telework without having to worry about losing their job. These are the exact same assholes scolding the working class to #staythefuckhome and #wearadamnmask.

    I want these pampered, privileged sacks of shit to have to stress out about paying their bills and their mortgage, too. I want them to lose their jobs, their livelihoods, and their homes.

    Maybe when they’ve suffered as much as they’ve made others suffer, and that bubble of privilege they live in pops, they’ll reconsider whether lockdown was such a good thing.

    1. It might work. Defeated republicans are discovering that finding a real job is a lot more demanding than trying to gull childish-minded apes into bullying women. THAT lesson was not lost on Dems, who finally wised up to calling for cops to kick in doors and shoot people because of plant leaves. Both those practices are opposed in the 1972 Libertarian Platform, so it only took 48 years for sclerotic conservatives in both kleptocracy parties to realize that violent mystical bigotry–by voters’ lights–is no longer desirable.

  47. For the second time this month, a Columbus, Ohio, police officer has fatally shot an unarmed black man.

    By now he must be pretty tired of getting fatally shot.

  48. As to Megan Nolan’s concern, I speculated early this year that if social distancing persisted, authorities would start encouraging incest — the idea being, be close only to those who were already in your household.

  49. ”Section 230—a federal communications law that helps protect free speech and free enterprise online” – Winner for Orwellian Bullshit of the Day. Tech companies can censor without the responsibilities of publishers due to a law- but it’s function is to ”protect free speech.” What a load of double speak!

    1. Fuck off, moron.

  50. Dipshit Trump vetoes NDAA because it leaves 230 intact and because he supports monuments to Confederate racist cracker traitors (because he is a racist himself). As much as I think we overspend on defense, I hope they override the veto because Trump’s two complaints are total bullshit.

    1. I should have mentioned Trump is a cracker and a traitor too.

    2. Ironically, those Confederate racist crackers were worth a lot more than the faggot making this complaint.

      1. I live how you admit your fealty to slave owners.

      2. Homophobe.

        1. Try not to drunk-post, faggot.

          1. I know you’re a faggot, but what am I?

            1. A future GRIDS victim.

              1. I know you are, but what am I?

    3. Dipshits like you, Vince, believe that opposing the erasure of history amounts to racism. That’s probably because you’re a racist yourself.

      1. We learn about the Confederate racist cracker traitors in history class. There’s no need to have monuments to them, dumbass.

        1. We learn about the Confederate racist cracker traitors in history class.

          Yes, you also learn about the supposed evils of capitalism and the supposed benefits of progressivism in history class, while not being taught about the actual source of racism and racial disparities in the US, namely the policies espoused by progressives and Democrats throughout the 20th and 21st century.

          Face it: your education was grossly deficient.

      2. Libertarians support privatizing monuments anyway, dipshit.

      3. So blacks who don’t want Confederate monuments are racists too?

        1. Actually, yeah–they have the highest in-group racial bias in the country of any other ethnic group.

  51. Retarded morbidky obese fatass Forrest Trump: Life is like a box of chocolates. Mmmmmmmmmm, chocolates.

    1. ^ Typical Democrat.

      1. Comparing Trump to Forrest Gump and Homer Simpson is an insult; both of them are much smarter than he is.

    2. morbidly

  52. Republicans need to listen to Linseed Graham Cracker some more. That whack job sure got women voters interested in getting out and voting down antichoice nationalsocialists. There was a similar trend in 1932. After prosecutor Willebrandt made it plain that Prohibition simply HAD to wreck the economy, Pauline Sabine’s organization landslided out republicans bent on keeping dry laws, blue laws and shooting people over beer. Losing another 5 elections in a row may make the lesson sink in.

  53. Poor commies at unreason.

    Enough GOP representatives and senators to challenge Biden EC votes jan 6, 2021. Poor biden. So close like Gore.

    1. Both houses of congress must agree to reject electors. Dems control House. Too bad.

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  55. Abolishing or weakening it would be bad for internet users and companies at any time,

    It would be good for users, bad for megacorporations.

    and especially during the pandemic when tech platforms and tools have become even more vital.

    The pandemic is actually a great time for people to switch to federated, distributed alternatives.

    But leave it to Reason to shill for Google and Facebook.

  56. The one bit of the economy that has not collapsed during the pandemic is the Internet sector.

    Government restrictions during the pandemic have killed small and mid sized businesses, particularly retail and restaurants, and big Internet corporations have benefited tremendously. Why do you think those corporations have been supporting Democrats and have been promoting restrictions on physical businesses?

    But funneling more money into the Internet sector while destroying the rest of the economy is not a good economic strategy. In fact, the Internet sector needs to shrink substantially and give up its ill-gotten gains if we want to have a functioning economy and a free country again.

  57. Why is Graham now Trump’s leading sycophant? He used to hate Trump. What dirt does Fat Donnie have on him? Is he guilty of pederasty? It has to be something.

    1. Why is Graham now Trump’s leading sycophant?

      Because Graham has recognized that behind that shock-jock reality drama facade, Trump has turned out to be a moderate conservative in terms of policy and has actually been pretty good in terms of the economy, foreign policy, and deregulation.

      Graham has also recognized that in the 21st century and in a world dominated by social media, politics is driven by personalities like AOC and Trump, not by corrupt fakes like Biden and Romney.

      1. Biden beat Trump, genius.

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