Economic Development

Wisconsin's Foxconn Boondoggle Looks Worse Than Ever

President Donald Trump and Gov. Scott Walker promised thousands of jobs in return for billions of dollars in subsidies from the state. More than two years later, there's little to show for it.

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In June 2018, President Donald Trump and then–Gov. Scott Walker of Wisconsin broke ground on the outskirts of Milwaukee for what was supposed to be a $10 billion, 20 million-square-foot factory for Taiwanese tech giant Foxconn.

It was going to be "the eighth wonder of the world," Trump said, proof that he was "reclaiming our country's proud manufacturing legacy"—even if the project was dependent on $3 billion in subsidies from the state of Wisconsin, one of the largest corporate handouts in American history.

A little more than two years later, the factory that was supposed to produce LCD screens for TVs and smartphones doesn't exist and "probably never will," reports The Verge this week in a must-read investigation into the downfall of Wisconsin's propped-up Foxconn project. The buildings that have been built on the plot of land where Trump and Walker overturned ceremonial shovels of dirt two years ago are being used for storage, not manufacturing. Promised renovations to a decades-old skyscraper in downtown Milwaukee—once intended to be Foxconn's U.S. headquarters—have not materialized. Neither have most of the 13,000 jobs the company promised to create in return for piles of public cash.

"Even the handful of jobs the company claims to have created are less than real: many of them held by people with nothing to do, hired so the company could reach the number required for it to get tax subsidy payments from Wisconsin," writes The Verge's Josh Dzieza. "Foxconn failed at that objective, too: last week, Wisconsin rejected the company's subsidy application and found it had employed only 281 people eligible under the contract at the end of 2019. Many have since been laid off."

Walker's administration promised Foxconn $3 billion in subsidies, but the administration of current Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, sent a letter to Foxconn last week denying the first round of those payments. The scope of the project had changed dramatically since the initial deal was inked, state officials said. In a statement to The Wall Street Journal, Foxconn called that decision "a disappointment and a surprise that threatens good faith negotiations."

It's quite the opposite, in fact. Cutting off Foxconn's subsidies is about the first bit of good news to come out of the massive boondoggle—and the fact that the development hasn't worked out is anything but a surprise.

For one thing, the math never added up. The state's Legislative Fiscal Bureau, a number-crunching agency similar to the federal Congressional Budget Office, calculated that it would take the state until 2043 to recoup the $3 billion handout, which was the largest such subsidy in Wisconsin history. Even if all 13,000 promised jobs went to Wisconsinites, the tab would be more than $230,000 per job created, the bureau found.

A separate analysis conducted by the Mercatus Center, a free market think tank based at George Mason University, found that the higher taxes needed to cover the cost of Foxconn's tax breaks would "decrease Wisconsin's long-run GDP by about $20 billion over the 15-year life of the handout." And that tally didn't include the cost of local utility infrastructure updates, which the state promised to cover in full as part of the deal with Foxconn.

Almost from the start, there have been red flags surrounding the Foxconn project. The town of Mount Pleasant, Wisconsin, used eminent domain to seize productive farmland for the now-defunct LCD factory project. Walker struck the $3 billion subsidy agreement without going through official governmental channels. And Foxconn has a long history of failing to live up to job creation promises connected to public giveaways.

The cherry on top of this expensive and rapidly melting milkshake is the fact that the whole project was meant to secure Walker's legacy and boost Trump's economic message. The former had been a darling of the tea party movement back when conservatives championed smaller government, but the Foxconn deal had always been more about economic nationalism and the fetishistic approach to industrial jobs that Trump has elevated to the forefront of the Republican Party.

It turns out that all of that was a shimmering illusion. There is no Foxconn factory. Walker's legacy is now defined as much by a poorly conceived economic development scheme as by his victories over public-sector unions. And Trump's economic nationalism has predictably failed once again.

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    Foxconn built nothing so it costs Wisconsin taxpayers nothing.

    Thanks to Democrats trying to nuke the US economy, market for Foxconn production has gone down.

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    2. They took people’s houses by eminent domain.

      1. Yeah, costs nothing my ass. Are those people going to get their farms back?

      2. Nuh-uhh. Didn’t you read lc1789? Nothing happened because nothing happened.

        1. Have to forgive him- can’t read. You know he can’t love the constitution either because 1) again, can’t read and 2) is so far up Trump’s ass who stomps all over the constitution daily.

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            1. It wasn’t just eminent domain, the state has already paid millions to build new roads and expand nearby highway capacity to service the plant expecting a large traffic volume.

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      3. “They” being the local town and not Walker or Trump.

        1. Of course not dear leader.

        2. Exactly. Walker is not even the governor anymore.

          To lefties anything bad is Trumps fault and anything good in 2020 is Obama’s doing.

      4. Your citation fell off.

        Eminent domain is constitutional and talk to Democrats on the SCOTUS about twisting the 5th amendment into taking property for private use.

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  6. Democrats are in Big Tech’s pocket. Republicans would never violate private property rights to enrich private companies, especially for those lefty scumbags in Silicon Valley.

  7. Walker’s administration promised Foxconn $3 billion in subsidies, but the administration of current Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, sent a letter to Foxconn last week denying the first round of those payments.

    So this whole article is bitching about a boondoggle that never actually happened and subsidies that were never actually paid?
    What’s the point other than orangemanbad?

    1. Nothing happened because the people of Wisconsin got wise and turned Scott Walker out of office. There is little doubt that Gov. Walker and the Republican in charge of the legislature would have kept feeding Foxconn money for nothing but promises.

      The cost of the Foxconn debacle is huge. Money that could have gone to make homegrown Wisconsin businesses stronger was diverted to get headlines for Walker and for Trump. It is all part of the silly trickle down economics that thinks if you give those with the most more, some small part will make it way to the average person.

      1. What money was diverted?

        FTFA: “the administration of current Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat, sent a letter to Foxconn last week denying the first round of those payments”.

        Are you here to fill Jeff and Tony’s role of Official Liar in this thread?

        1. The fact is that time and money where spent on the pursuit of the Foxconn business and this was at the expense of Wisconsin businesses. A major business in Madison walked out to Iowa because the Walker administration did nothing. This is a big problem with the Walker Administration. They spent time pursuing unrealistic business idea out of state instead of focusing on Wisconsin businesses. Much of it was a desire on the part of Scott Walker to have a big score like a mine in northern Wisconsin or Foxconn. What suffered was Wisconsin businesses that got overlooked. Near Madison is a major tech firm that makes medical software and which could have seen major gains supplying the ACA. But Walker, like other Republicans, downplayed the ACA for political reasons robbing this company of potential business. So yes, Wisconsin businesses suffered so Scott Walker could chase his dreams.

          1. It doesn’t seem like it was unrealistic but rather that Tony Evers deliberately fucked it up because fuck Scott Walker and fuck Taiwan (Yessir Mr. Jinping).

            I’m personally fine with that because I hate corporatism, but let’s not pretend it was Walkers fault and that Evers wasn’t the major factor in knocking this sideways.

            1. Republicans get a pass for the worst shameless corporatism ever because they failed because the people forced them to stop. Maybe you need to stop being such a goddamn partisan bootlicker?

              1. Republicans get a pass for the worst shameless corporatism

                Go fuck your hat Tony, you illiterate DNC shill. Why did you just ignore the part where I said “I’m personally fine with that because I hate corporatism“.

                Are you so fucking retarded that you can’t absorb two whole sentences?

                1. At least Tony is, you know, an actual American, with some skin in the game.

                  1. Yeah, that’s not remotely an argument. Is that really all you’ve got?

                    1. It wasn’t an argument, eh.

                    2. No. Nice distraction attempt though.

                  2. Also White Knight, in a thread on Sunday you said:

                    “The White Knight
                    October.18.2020 at 10:30 am
                    I admit when I am wrong. But you have to provide something to prove you are right.”

                    Then you were given 10 different cites and you disappeared.

                    It’s time to admit you were wrong and apologize to everyone for your stupid little games like you promised.

                    1. Wow, how late on Sunday did you reply?

                    2. You know how stupid an argument it is to say “you disappeared” on an open discussion thread where people come and go all day. You are a silly person.

                    3. Stop trying to weasel out.

              2. Tony
                October.20.2020 at 5:20 pm
                Republicans get a pass for the worst shameless corporatism ever

                Foxxconn isn’t in the top thousand, you just don’t care about the others because they weren’t run by Team Red.

          2. A major business in Madison walked out to Iowa because the Walker administration did nothing.

            Revealing. Reps are wrong for giving special tax breaks and for not giving special tax breaks. That’s certainly the left wing view where right and wrong are determined solely by whether executed by Team Blue or Team Red.

            But Walker, like other Republicans, downplayed the ACA for political reasons robbing this company of potential business.

            How absurd this fool pretends Walker not liking the ACA means this business lost customers. Apparently the underpants gnomes are involved. Do these people have any understanding of reality at all?

            1. I feel you have missed my point, which is that existing Wisconsin company’s were ignored in the pursuit of the long shot big score. This is not about who gets tax breaks its is about looking to the business climate in your state. See what companies are doing well, understanding why and building on that success.

              1. existing Wisconsin company’s [sic] were ignored

                Right. By “ignored” you mean “not given special tax breaks” you pretend to oppose, but in fact only oppose when given by Team Red.

                1. You have a limited view of what and how the government can assist businesses. There is a lot more to business assistance than tax breaks. Shortly after Foxconn deal a Wisconsin paper mill announced it was closing and eliminating local jobs. State Republican leaders suggested a tax break to the mill similar to Foxconn. Local government officials of both parties wanted something else. They understood that tax breaks would only delay the closing because paper mill’s product was no longer in demand. They wanted money to help the mill retool and shift to a product with more demand in the future. The answer is not to simply throw money at businesses.

                  1. They wanted money to help the mill retool and shift to a product with more demand in the future. The answer is not to simply throw money at businesses.

                    Amusingly you advocate throwing money at this business while pretending you oppose throwing money at businesses. It’s not government’s job to decide if this sort of change is likely to be successful. Your argument is that Trump picked a worse horse than he should have which is (a) unproven since the alternative is only your fantasy and (b) neither Trump nor you should be picking horses at all.

                    This is leftist doublespeak: pretending to oppose what is in fact your entire economic program.

      2. You’re an idiot. The legislature hasn’t been “feeding” Foxconn anything. No money has been diverted. Back to your flock sheep.

      3. Notice, after walker was voted out, Wisconsin took a shit economically and Lefties now running that state never changed the deal they supposedly had a problem with.

        1. Could you define how Wisconsin lost economically. The area I live in has seen economic progress. There are building going up all over Madison. Madison, a lefty stronghold, has a lower unemployment rate that many other parts of the state. Wisconsin’s farm economy has been affected by the ongoing trade wars of the Trump administration.

          Lefties do well because they see the future economy and move towards it. The Republicans still see Wisconsin’s future in building typewriters and BetaMax VCRs.

          As for the Foxconn deal, the Evers Administration has not cancelled it but has enforced it provisions to insure goals are met, something the Republicans would not do.

          1. Madison has lower unemployment than the rest of WI because of all the gubmint workers, employees of the state’s University of Wisconsin, and businesses that find it convenient to be adjacent to the state capitol and UW, such as insurance. It’s the same reason Columbus, OH is now larger than Cleveland.

    2. You skipped the rest of it — the eminent domain seizures, the infrastructure improvements. But those don’t count, right?

      1. No, not really.
        The town of Mount Pleasant seized the land, not Trump or Walker, contrary to weaselly inferences above. And the land can still be farmed, there’s no factory on it. As for infrastructure improvements the linked article says they were needed anyway.
        This is a big pile of fucking nothing.

        Boehm’s just trying to squirt as many “Fuck Trump” articles as he can before the election, just to do his bit for the war effort, and you know it.

        1. Oh no, snowflake is upset that Republicans fucked it all up.

          1. Shorter Jeff: “I got nuthin’ but I’m mad”.

        2. “As for infrastructure improvements the linked article says they were needed anyway.” No, the article doesn’t. Please provide a quotation stating this. The state spent millions on building new roads to service the site and expand nearby highways expecting major traffic volume that will likely never come now.

      2. If only there were a party that steadfastly stood against eminent domain takings for a “public purpose”.

    3. Orangemanbad is the point. It’s always the point. It’s the reason why most of the alleged libertarians at reason are voting for Biden and not the Libertarian candidate.

      1. No this is not the point. Orangeman happens to be bad in this case. But the fact that a state has ED’d a bunch of people out of their property, for some master plan that everyone knew was bullshit at the start, is pretty bad. It is bad when Reason reports about similar stuff on California’s train to nowhere, and it is bad when they report it here.

        1. Orangeman only used it as a photo op. he apparently had no hand in the deal, as that was done by Walker’s office. No federal funds/permits were utilized. This is a far cry from the Solyndra scandal and the hundreds of millions of federal money spent there.

          I don’t know why reason can’t separate state from federal overtures.

          1. Sure- how about the Carrier deal then? How about we talk about how they got subsidies then turned around and shipped jobs off to Mexico?

            Must be fantastic living in a head where Trump is responsible for everything good and nothing bad. Just amazing really.

            You could try getting off your knees any day now.

            1. Is that you sarcasmic with another strawman argument nobody is making?

          2. This is a far cry from the Solyndra scandal and the hundreds of millions of federal money spent there.

            Not to mention the no-shit federal dollars that have gone into building wind farms using land claimed by ED.

            1. “Not to mention the no-shit federal dollars that have gone into building wind farms using land claimed by ED.”

              Citation please…..

              1. If we give you a cite are you going admit you’re a cheap troll, WK. What’s with the new sock anyway?

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                2. He’s not me. I’m just checking in on this thread now for the first time.

                  Another example of how you CACLLs make national politics about me. That’s weird.

                  1. What the fuck is a CACLL.
                    You seem to have invented the acronym yourself because Google gives nothing and none of the other lefties use it here.

                    1. I’ve explained it a couple of times now, but I guess you “disappeared” and didn’t check back for my explanation.

                      I’m going to let you in on a secret: every acronym was thought up by somebody. Do you think there’s a top-secret supercomputer that creates them all?

                    2. No you didn’t and what the fuck is CACLL?

              2. You want citations for common knowledge?

                Here is an example of an attempt to end it. You could always search for your own evidence as it is pretty common knowledge.

                https://omaha.com/state-and-regional/bill-that-would-end-private-wind-farms-use-of-eminent-domain-fails-in-legislature/article_0d24e987-d37d-5c0b-a6fe-1f3975070642.html

                1. And in case Nebraska is too local, Here’s Iowa

                2. He didn’t want a cite. It’s a form of harassment and a lazy attempt to shut down conversation by making others waste their time.

              3. And the dollars:

                Wind farm operators nationwide received nearly $37 billion in federal, state and local subsidies from 2000 through 2017, according to data from Good Jobs First, a nonprofit nonpartisan research center that promotes corporate and government accountability in economic development.

                https://publicintegrity.org/politics/state-politics/an-uncertain-future-for-americas-wind-energy-capital/#:~:text=Wind%20farm%20operators%20nationwide%20received,government%20accountability%20in%20economic%20development.

          3. Because Eric is a kept man.

          4. So Trump used farmers for a photo opp? Not sure that is really much better.

            Farmer: Trump you stole our land!
            Trump: It was your town council that used eminent domain to take your land.
            Farmer: You stood by silently on that part of the deal while praising the whole of it.
            Trump: Come off it; it was just a photo opp.
            Farmer: Oh, okay, that totally makes it all better, thank you Mr. President.

            1. You don’t seem to realize that the town used eminent domain long after Trump’s “job” was finished.

            2. Trump: Come off it; it was just a photo opp. Do you want me in charge of your land or your Village Council?
              Farmer: Oh, okay, that totally makes it all better, thank you Mr. President. Fuck.

          5. So, you give Trump a pass because he only promoted the deal and used it as a photo op. Only a Trump partisan would feel the need to grasp at that excuse for his involvement.

            1. WK is the sort of feeb who can’t imagine a happy life without central government control

        2. “But the fact that a state has ED’d a bunch of people out of their property”

          It wasn’t the state, it was an eager town council. Boehm and M4E were just trying to make it sound like it was the state.

        3. Overt: Now that they have Been screwed out of their property maybe they can come and live with you.

    4. Under Walker’s leadership, Wisconsin had already spent over $400-million on this project, mostly on land and infrastructure.

  8. The headline should be “Democrat refuses to hand out corporate welfare promised by Republicans.”

    Weird times.

    1. Agreed

    2. They still will hand it out, just to different entities.

    3. The headline should be “Democrat refuses to hand out corporate welfare promised by Republicans.”“Democrats refuse to award tax breaks per Republican policy.”

      Getting even more ‘behind the story’; “Democrats pantomime empty gesture to oppose Trump’s empty gesture.”

      Welfare is aid provided to people in need. No aid was or was to be provided and Foxconn wasn’t in need.

    4. Lefties can keep blaming Trump because he will be reelected.

  9. so nothing happened and no tax dollars were spent as subsidies?

    1. Yes, but Orange Hitler.

      1. And eminent domain.

        1. Yeah, as the article says it was the town that eminent domained those properties. Walker and Trump were no longer involved by that point.
          Read harder next time.

          1. Duh.

            1. So what was your point aside from a cheap troll?

              1. He lies too.

      2. Speaking of eminent domain, look up “Vera Coking”.

        1. I know all about her. She was a hero and the city of Atlantic City and Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc. were assholes.
          What’s your point?

          1. An early indicator that Trump is n asshole. Years before he became President.

            1. People know he’s an asshole, that’s exactly why they hired him.

              1. Democrats are the worse kind of asshole. Assholes that want to kill you, so you need a guy like Trump to fight Lefty assholes and he has.

                Trump is a n American patriot fighting Lefties.

          2. You are seriously trying to get away with the pretense there is some distinction of importance between Donald Trump and “Trump Entertainment Resorts Inc.”

            1. No you dishonest fuckhead, don’t put words in my mouth.

  10. This is a good and fair criticism of Trump and a specific failed policy.

    Now, if only the democrats had some fucking moral fiber left in this area, they could use it, but alas, they burned that years ago with Kelo and Obama’s corporate flirtations with ‘sustainable’ industries.

    1. But it was a state policy. It seems Trump’s only interface with the project was photo ops and messaging.

      1. Oh no- someone criticized Trump. Good thing Jesse is on the case!

        1. You are really terrible at this.

          You never responded to all of the shootings against conservatives when you made the opposite claim… why?

          You should get better socks Sarcasmic. Nobody is defending Trump here. Just pointing out the focus of the article as being incorrect.

          You’re too stupid to care though.

          1. “Nobody is defending Trump here.”

            “But it was a state policy. It seems Trump’s only interface with the project was photo ops and messaging.”

          2. White nite was not programmed to acknowledge facts or reality. unreason just wanted a post generating bot.

  11. “Even the handful of jobs the company claims to have created are less than real: many of them held by people with nothing to do, hired so the company could reach the number required for it to get tax subsidy payments from Wisconsin,” writes The Verge’s Josh Dzieza. “Foxconn failed at that objective, too: last week, Wisconsin rejected the company’s subsidy application and found it had employed only 281 people eligible under the contract at the end of 2019. Many have since been laid off.”

    What I’m reading b’twix and b’tween the lines here is that FoxConn has simply decided to not open that factory. This doesn’t appear to be a case where FoxConn was gung ho on their factory plans and a principled Democrat swung into action with his ‘buck stops here’ sign and suddenly found his fucking nads on things like corporate subsidies and eminent domain.

    This simply appears to be a case of a corporation that was wooed by subsidies from Walker/Trump, then the market changed, they no longer found it cost-effective to build the factory, and the Democrat (to his credit) simply decided to stop throwing subsidies after a factory that’s never going to exist.

    None of this is to excuse Trump/Walker for subsidizing corporatism– it’s another well-worn lesson in corporatist fuckery that real libertarians have been pointing out for decades.

    The bottom line is, if that Factory were will a going concern, there’s no fucking way any Democrat would suddenly sever the subsidy hose out of some kind of fiscally responsible principles. This is just how local governments work: You’re against it when you’re against it, and fer it when your fer it.

    1. There was one casual mention of the word, Democrat, in the article we are commenting on, with no argument made that the Democrats are the heroes in this story.

      1. That’s because I’m lamenting the death of fiscal sanity and free markets, and am simply pointing out that this kind of fuckery is a bipartisan issue and you’re not going to see a stop to it when “the era of Trump” is over and we all return to the warm, comfortable womb of center-left politics.

        1. Agreed.

  12. Wisconsin rejected the company’s subsidy application and found it had employed only 281 people eligible under the contract at the end of 2019. Many have since been laid off.”

    Makes Mark Kelly look like an Amateur.

    When World View signed its $15 million lease deal with Pima County for its headquarters south of the Tucson International Airport in 2016, company officials said they expected to hire more than 400 employees over four years.

    They peaked at 89 and has generally been almost half of that. It also included tens of millions in county tax breaks on top of the sweetheart pima rent deal.

    That’s the problem… these types of deals are found everywhere for both parties. It is strange what Reason chooses to focus on. Instead of doing a broad blast of failures that would be useful, this article takes on the appearance of biased politics instead.

    1. It is strange what Reason chooses to focus on

      Not strange at all. Only a couple of weeks left until The Most Important Election of Our Lives and Boehm is panicking.

  13. Not my favorite move by Walker as governor, but not a fraction of the evil that Evers has been subjecting us to. Speaking of that… there has been a petition filed and gathering signatures in WI to recall Evers for a while now that must be submitted by sometime next week I believe. This has been entirely ignored by the local media, by Evers himself, and, most significantly, by the Republican party. Other than a handful of local offices, there has been ZERO statewide organization by the Republican party- they say all they care about is November. Note than when Walker was recalled, it was an official Democratic party effort. In this case, it started with basically one lady and a Facebook group who were pissed off about lockdowns, masks, and Kenosha. People out setting up tables wherever they can- in parks, in business parking lots, going to friends and family and bars and restaurants. And it’s starting to sound like it might actually happen- we might really get the nearly 700k signatures required with this grassroots effort. Suddenly, in the past few days, there is media coverage (much of it trying to discredit the movement and the woman running it) and Evers has suddenly put out “decline to sign” ads, after never even acknowledging it for the first couple months. This reminds me a lot of the Trump movement, and indeed the common thread amongst petitioners that I have seen is almost exclusively full-throated support for Trump. So the “Trump 2020” crowd can collect physical signatures from ~12% of the state’s population in a couple months, in the middle of a dempanic (where lots of events and venues you might normally be able to collect signatures are cancelled/closed), with zero media coverage or support from the Republican party… but Biden is winning the state by 110 points. OK…

    1. Democrats are going to do even better in the future once a significant portion of the Trump cult dies of covid. He’s promising 5 rallies a day of tens of thousands of attendees. You better hope it’s all a Chinese hoax.

      1. Democrats sacrifice babies to Mammon, but Trump is a cult…

        1. Yup Q aka Trump is a cult.

      2. This is the type of response that convinces me Tony is just trolling.

        1. You need to be worried about the fact that Trump is killing people for an ego fix.

          1. Not preventing a global pandemic that no one else can prevent is killing people.

            Dismembering live infants is choice.

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  16. I live in Wisconsin. The boondoggle was Scott Walkers and Scott Walkers alone. The fact Trump showed up to be supportive of a Republican Governor is nothing new for any president of either party.

    1. I live in Wisconsin. The boondoggle was Scott Walkers and Scott Walkers alone.

      You can’t see the forest for the trees. Between Trump and Walker, Walker was the guilty party. But if you live in Mt. Pleasant and voted out Walker thinking you solved the problem, you deserve whatever’s coming to you. Especially considering, as I understand it, 3 of the 4 council members up for re-election bowed out, and they were the more “growth adverse” council members.

      1. I didn’t vote Walker in our out, I vote libertarian, and I don’t live in Mt. Pleasant. Senators and Representatives politicians of both parites lineup to promote themselves on jobs every time Oshkosh Truck or Marinette Marine wins a contract on competitive bid. That does not mean they brought the jobs. Who shows up for the announcement means nothing. Now Foxconn worked very differently. Walker courted and gave breaks to a company known to renig on their contracts.

    2. This has nothing to do with Democrats nuking the economy making it economically unfeasible for Foxconn.

      Notice the propagandists at unreason refuse to add that fact into their article of lies.

  17. Here’s a book with an interesting take on the business climate in Wisconsin:
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    I read it; I enjoyed it; I learned a lot. But mostly it just confirms that our “ruling elites”, at all levels, are economic illiterates and, through decades of parasitic destruction, have shot this entire country in the back. It didn’t start in Wisconsin, and it won’t end there.

  18. Remember when the libertarians on this board used to hate government subsidies and pork, and didn’t bend over backwards to try and defend these programs? Pepperidge Farm remembers. Orange Man Good is some powerful stuff.

    1. Libertarians hate Democrats and socialists worse.

  19. We didn’t really want Foxconn here. Unless you like suicide-at-work headlines. Or the American version with guns.

    Trump’s tariff war likely changed things as it is too costly to ship in materials from Asia. And companies already established here, with monstrously powerful corporate owners, could have interfered.

    The other tariff dispute with France also added to the global scheming and maneuvering during the China battle. A French group owns a Foxconn “competitor” here. Smells like gamesmanship all around.

    But… what was the actual federal cost here? Nothing?

  20. I knew this deal was a scam from day 1. So now the Taiwanese own a piece of property and some americas are out of a home. Anyone remember Kelo vs New London. Same scam there too.

    I’ll tell you what. I own a few properties from hard work and effort. If anyone takes any of my properties by Eminent Domain, those at the top of the government and corporate food chain of the project will turn up missing, never to be seen or heard from again.

    The bottom line is, YOU DON’T TAKE PROPERTY FROM THOSE WHO HAVE EARNED THE RIGHT TO OWN IT WITHOUT THEIR PERMISSION. never.ever. This is part of the reason I became a libertarian in the first place. Anyone here that thinks different should probably just say they are a republican or a democrat. Don’t waste your breath claiming to be something you are not.

  21. The eighth wonder of the world. Trump said that about the Foxconn plant.

  22. Still trying to figure out how it’s such a rafee deal when Foxconn didn’t get the money. However, the federal and state govts should not be involved business handouts or tax subsidies, and taxes should be a flat rate across the board, with no deductions.

  23. My, what colorful embellishment by this author.

    Yeah, the smart Dems would never be taken in by this sort of thing. Only government investments like Solyndra that worked out so great would get their coveted seal of approval.

    And the lucky people of NY city have savvy razor-sharp business minded reps like AOC to chase evil Amazon away with their high paying jobs and investments in the area.

    The Alaska purchase was Seward’s folly. And boy did the US get taken with that boondoggle Louisiana purchase!
    If man were meant to fly he would have wings. If he were meant to remain under water for long periods of time, he would have gills. Everything that needs to be invented has already been invented.

  24. “current Gov. Tony Evers, a Democrat”

    So who is currently in charge of Wisconsin?

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