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Coronavirus in Congress Won't Stop Barrett Confirmation Hearings, Which Start Today

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Partisan anger, mudslinging, and shenanigans to spike this week. The U.S. Senate Judiciary Committee is about to start confirmation hearings for Amy Coney Barrett, President Donald Trump's new nominee for the Supreme Court. The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn't be more absurd, as Americans are already voting in an election just weeks away, questions remain about the completeness of Barrett's paperwork, and two members of the judiciary committee recently came down with COVID-19. Meanwhile, senior Republicans on the confirmation committee are refusing to take coronavirus tests before everyone meets.

In the rush to confirm before the November election, it looks like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is willing to put the health of his colleagues and others at risk. The two committee members who tested positive for COVID-19 recently—Utah Republican Mike Lee and North Carolina Republican Thom Tillis—will attend the confirmation hearings via video…mostly. But voting must take place in person.

There are 22 senators on the judiciary committee, each of whom is given 10 minutes Monday for an opening statement. After that, Barrett will give her opening statement.

Tuesday and Wednesday will feature questions from senators, with Thursday reserved for questions and testimony from non-Senate folks.

Judiciary Chair Lindsey Graham can call for a committee vote after that, though Democrats can (and almost certainly will) call for this to be postponed a week. Even with some stalling from Democrats, however, the full Senate will likely vote on Barrett's nomination by October 29.

As election-time strategy goes, this could be risky for Republicans, since some conservatives may feel compelled to vote for Trump only if a Supreme Court seat is at stake. "Her confirmation can and probably will be done before Election Day, at which point Trump's SCOTUS voters can—and, on this very basis, should—dump him as swiftly and mercilessly as he'd dump them were they no longer politically useful," writes Bonnie Kristian at The Week.

Then again, it's unclear whether "Trump's SCOTUS voters"—people who would vote for him only on the basis of getting another conservative on the Court—actually exist, at least in any significant numbers.

In any event, Barrett's fate is no longer really in question—as long as enough senators stay healthy enough to vote, anyway.

"The Republicans would need several senators to defect and there's no sign of that at this point," explains Supreme Court analyst and blogger Amy Howe in an interview with PBS. "There are two senators, Senator Lisa Murkowski of Alaska and Senator Susan Collins of Maine, who had said that they wanted Republicans to wait and not vote on a nominee before the election. But I don't think that either one of them has committed to not voting for Judge Barrett."

When Barrett makes it to SCOTUS, she'll face cases on some major issues. More from Howe:

The day after Election Day, the Supreme Court will hear oral arguments in a case called Fulton versus City of Philadelphia. And this is a case about the balance between religious beliefs on the one hand, and anti-discrimination laws, particularly anti-discrimination laws against LGBTQ people, on the other hand. And it's sort of a second round of cases.

Many of your viewers may remember from a couple of years ago a case involving a Colorado baker who refused to make cakes for a same sex wedding. The Supreme Court in that case ruled for the baker but in a very narrow way, that didn't resolve the broader question of how do you balance someone's religious beliefs against anti-discrimination laws? And so the question is back in a case brought by Catholic Social Services in Philadelphia against the City of Philadelphia, which won't now give contracts to Catholic Social Services because Catholic Social Services won't work with foster care parents who are same-sex couples.

And the second one is a week after Election Day and that is the challenge to the individual mandate of the Affordable Care Act. And that is a case that back in 2012, again, many of your viewers may remember, the Chief Justice John Roberts joined the court's then four more liberal justices in upholding the individual mandate. A couple of years later, the Congress changed the mandate, they reduced the penalty for not getting health insurance to zero. And so Texas and some other so-called red states went to court, said, well, if there's no longer a penalty for not getting health insurance, it can't be a tax. And they said if the mandate's not constitutional, the whole Affordable Care Act has to go with it. And so that is obviously a very consequential case that is going to be argued on November 10 in the Supreme Court.


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  1. Something strange is going on with California ballot boxes.

    A Republican vote found its way in.

    1. Some mailman didn’t do his job then.

      1. They should discipline him/her/it, but union rules.

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    2. “Padilla said, with a felony conviction carrying a prison sentence of two to four years.”

      With Commifornia’s early release of felons, its more like a 2 week paid vacation.

      That is IF you get convicted. More and more Commifornians hate police so why would juries convict people?

    3. Read the article. Republicans are setting up fake ballot boxes. That’s illegal. Not the Democrats, it’s the Republicans who are doing this. Maybe it’s 5D chess by savvy Democrats, but when these boxes are found in GOP party and candidate offices, it reeks of nasty.

      1. The way it came across to me is a young, inexperienced county GOP central committee member not knowing the election laws very well.

      2. There was an article?

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  2. “In the rush to confirm before the November election, it looks like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is willing to put the health of his colleagues and others at risk.”

    Insert Remy’s, “You just want people to die”.

    Any Democrat who doesn’t want to vote against confirmation for fear of being infected should feel free to stay home instead.

    1. P.S. ENB might support the confirmation of an authoritarian socialist to the Supreme Court so long as he or she were also in favor of both abortion and legalized prostitution.

      1. ENB is all kinds of awful but the hooers want decriminalized prostitution and authoritarian socialists won’t stand for that.

        1. She only gets to choose for her body when someone else is getting paid. That is the socialist way.

          1. Socialism would require sex workers be owned, I suspect, by the state, in order to pacify the proles. At the very least, the licensing and medical testing would be onerous, and one suspects that there would be centralized brothels. I cannot see ENB supporting this, rather a free market solution.

            1. Brothels run like the DMV. By the time you go though the lines, photos, tests for rules of the g spot,etc., it’s 5.PM, everyone goes home, nobody gets laid. Plus if you did get through you wouldn’t have a choice due to anti-(racism,sexism,genderism,homophopeism,ageism) rules.

              1. At least at the DMV I get fucked.

              2. Dont forget, customers cant discriminate on the basis of race or gender identity

                1. Or trans-status.

    2. I’m genuinely curious to know when ENB would think the health of colleagues WOULDN’T be at risk. COVID has been a thing for 6 months. Multiple other senators have come down with it in previous months. Somehow the senate was able to manage.

      Senators can participate in every part of this process remotely- except for the vote. And everything I have read is that they can do stuff like have people vote from the lobby. There is pretty much no new risk to this.

      “As election-time strategy goes, this could be risky for Republicans, since some conservatives may feel compelled to vote for Trump only if a Supreme Court seat is at stake”

      This is some prime concern trolling by ENB. Of course, she somehow forgot to mention that if there is one thing that could motivate women to go pull the lever for Bad Touch Biden, it would be the prospect of getting a new RBG on the court next year.

      1. Senators can listen from home, and perhaps vote from the lobby, but how can they grand-stand and pound the podium if they are not in the royal hearing room?

      2. “This is some prime concern trolling by ENB”

        Exactly right.

        Not only will women be forced to literally give birth to their rape children, and blacks be put back in chains, everyone in the Senate chamber will die if ACB is confirmed.

        Is it worth it?

        1. “Not only will women be forced to literally give birth to their rape children, and blacks be put back in chains, everyone in the Senate chamber will die if ACB is confirmed.

          Is it worth it?”

          Absolutely. I would personally put women back into my own personal harem if it meant everyone who stepped foot in the Senate chamber died.

          1. Absolutely. I would personally put women back into my own personal harem if it meant everyone who stepped foot in the Senate chamber died.

            Should I just write ‘Overt’ on my ballot or do you have a running mate?

        2. What’s that? Blacks will be forced to rape children?
          tl;dr

      3. Of course, she somehow forgot to mention that if there is one thing that could motivate women to go pull the lever for Bad Touch Biden, it would be the prospect of getting a new RBG on the court next year.

        At this stage, anyone making the argument that there is anything that would motivate someone who’s already made up their mind to switch their vote or stay home is clearly being disingenuous.

        1. Maybe the series of leftist political murders in Milwaukee, Portland, and Denver?

          1. I thought it was a right winger in Denver.

            1. Leftists have murdered Trump supporters for being Trump supporters in Milwaukee, Portland, and Denver

      4. They are United States Senators. They could put them all in clean suits if that was needed. It’s not even expensive. If people can do it at semiconductor manufacturers every single day, Congress could set up a clean room for a vote.

        This is the stupidest fucking conversation in the history of the US Senate. And they have had some doozies.

      5. ENB is basically a mouthpiece for the Resistance.

        Notice now that Both Sides will be up to “partisan mud slinging”.

    3. Seems like ENB truly disdains Trump and Republicans, even though most GOP governors, state legislatures and members of Congress are significantly more libertarian that most Democrat governors, state legislatures and members of Congress.

      1. But of course, Democrats are now more libertarian than Republicans on legalizing cannabis, legalizing prostitution and preserving women’s right to abortion.

        1. more libertarian than Republicans on legalizing cannabis

          Would a Democrat frolic in a field of weed with as much verve as Cocaine Mitch?
          https://youtu.be/-FsDy9lKxlY?t=102

        2. Both major parties are ill-fitting shoes for a libertarian.

          1. Yet you constantly defend one as fitting okay.

            1. Really? Cite?

              1. I’m sorry, I don’t have the notarized statements on BLM activists to show you at this time. Please try again later.

                1. You’ve got nuthin’.

                    1. ???

                  1. JesseAz has bigger balls than ENB and her pussy husband.

                2. The reason you’ve got nuthin’ is because there has never been even one time I have posted a positive comment about Democrats, liberals, progressives, Biden, Harris, Obama, BLM, antifa, or any of the other CACLL bogie men.

                  1. I might, maybe have said something nice about Tulsi Gabbard.

        3. Harris locked up more people for weed than any other senator. Then laughed about it.

          1. I remember Obama opening up a petition portal to hear from the people, then chuckling when the two most popular petitions were about decriminalizing marijuana.

            1. Yeah, I remember him yucking it up with Leno (I think it was Leno).

        4. It’s important to remember that the Democrats have been just as obstinate or more so than Republicans on issues like legalizing cannabis. Just about everywhere it’s been legalized, it was done so by way of referendum–over the objections and despite the inaction of progressive politicians. Progressives don’t even want to let us buy large sugary soft drinks. Why would they support people consume cannabis?

          The reason New York hasn’t legalized cannabis isn’t because the Republicans are in charge of the state. It’s because 1) the law enforcement unions have an enormous amount of influence on the nominating process in the Democratic party–so legislators fear crossing them and 2) it’s because New York doesn’t have a referendum process so the voters can’t get around the legislature in Albany.

          1. “the law enforcement unions have an enormous amount of influence on the nominating process in the Democratic party”

            And sadly for ENB, her real pet issue, Sex Work, stands to suffer from the country’s journey to drug decriminalization. The whole “Human Trafficking” push is due to police realizing that they need to lock people up for something other than MJ, and so they are scaring the shit out of america, telling them that the prostitutes and johns they are locking up are part of some human trafficking ring that is kidnapping teenage girls from there houses.

        5. The only reason that they are legalizing cannabis is so that they can tax the hell out of it to get more money for their failed policies.

          1. It also changed dramatically when the marijuana growers and retail workers started joining the same unions that represent government workers.

    4. My point was that if the Democrats are willing to risk the health of others in order to vote against Amy Coney Barrett, why shouldn’t Republicans be willing to risk the health of others in order to confirm Amy Coney Barrett?

      Turns out that whether or not Amy Coney Barrett gets onto the Supreme Court is more important than some other things? Yeah, we should hope so. We also put others at risk every time we go out to eat or go snowboarding. Turns the safety of others is sometimes less important than other things–like being free to make choices for ourselves or having fun.

      Is all this new to ENB?

      Has she ever read anything by Lenore Skenazy?

      1. Kungflu has moved from the top story and keeps moving down in priority after RBG dies, economy bouncing back, Trump beats Wuhanvirus, and Barrett confirmation hearing.

    5. its okay though to risk the health of the local black grocery store clerk but these Senators must be protected from doing a part of their job that is required even though they continue to make oppressive laws against us the rest of the time. Why is just this one thing shouldn’t they also not be out campaining and vote seeking and talking to teh media if they are so important to the survival of the country

      1. I just read your line as ‘cam-plaining and vote seeking’, which isn’t far from what they are doing. haha
        What should we camplain about in the media today….

    6. Let us not forget that it is election season and 1/3 of the Senate is up for re-election. If Mitch McConnell calls these Senators back to Washington and off the campaign trail, he sure as hell is risking something far worse than their lives, he’s risking their re-election.

  3. Then again, it’s unclear whether “Trump’s SCOTUS voters”—people who would vote for him only on the basis of getting another conservative on the Court—actually exist, at least in any significant numbers.

    They don’t. NeverTrumpers like Bill Kristol, Max Boot and the Bush’s are screaming about how inappropriate it is because orangemanbad.

    1. I have several friends who know I am libertarian, and who implored me to vote Trump in 2016. All of them used a line like, “I can’t stand the guy, but we need him for the SCOTUS picks!”

      So they certainly exist.

      1. There is likely 1 if not 2 more picks in the next 4 years.

        1. Exactly. Breyer is about as old for this election as RBG was in 2016- chances are he won’t be on the court four years from now one way or another. Plus another 4 years of a R president probably will result in Thomas stepping down and that seat being held for another generation. If Biden wins, as long as his health permits Thomas could/would probably hold out another 4 years, but if Harris was re-elected in 2024, I’m not sure he’d hang around.

      2. My very Catholic uncle’s family is basically this. They are very much focused on ending abortion and see Trump as means to an end. At least at first, after the left attacks on Trump’s base on ridiculous theories and the Kavanaugh hearing, I’d move them to the supporter camp.

        1. Seeing Trump as a means to an end, I get that.

          What is sad and creepy is a good friend of mine. He and his wife are devout Catholics, deeply concerned about family values and sanctity of marriage. Somehow in their household, Trump is just short of a saint, a holy warrior fighting against the forces of evil. How do you sell out your convictions and fool yourself so readily.

          1. Have you bothered asking your creepy friends instead of attributing your biases to their beliefs?

              1. We have a mind reader here.

                1. Says the poster that boasts of reading the minds of his creepy Catholic friends.

                  1. I don’t have to read their minds. I see their Facebook posts.

                2. Wow I didn’t expect you to confirm it like that!

            1. Her “friends” only exist inside her analogy.

            2. It’s a bit of a sensitive topic.

              1. I’m sure you being an adult with imaginary friends IS quite a sensitive topic, yea.

              2. How? Why is it sensitive to discuss topics with other adults? Are you a child or something?

                1. Discussing politics with friends and family can be touchy. You’ll understand someday when you have friends.

          2. Man you really embarrassed yourself again with this one Dee.

        2. I know a lot of those. People who either tolerated Trump or did a protest vote in 2016 got pushed further and further into the Trump camp by the insanity of the left over the past 4 years.

          The deciding point for me was when we found out about Biden’s issues. Biden had been openly and repeatedly molesting his own bodyguards and been little short of taking bribes through Hunter and the rest of his family. However, the media had for years declared that Obama had a scandal-free White House. We only found out about it because they tried to turn it around on Trump. Trump can’t step a foot out of line without everyone knowing, but I don’t trust the media to protect us from Biden.

          The fourth branch’s dereliction of duty in checking the power of the Democratic party makes it unviable to put the Democrats in the majority of offices.

          1. Or burn down the entire press.

            Once they openly and proudly carried Obama’s water, providing cover for him at every turn, and then did everything possible to burn Trump after every single word, tweet, or action, it’s clear the press is more of a danger to society than a help.

            They have a job, and they’ve failed spectacularly for over a decade to do it. Fucking the press. May there be a circle in hell that deals with bodies that have been woodchippered.

      3. I remember in 2016 the Democrats voting for Trump in open primary states because he would be the easiest for Clinton to beat.

  4. From Friday to now, over $150,000 in fines from 62 summonses were handed out by City agents in the Red, Orange and Yellow zones, including 5 to non-compliant religious congregations.

    The Rona can only be cured by rent-seeking.

    1. All they need are blue and green zones for a rainbow coalition exemption.

    2. New Yorkers are absolutely crazy for putting up with this color coded crap.

      1. New Yorkers are absolutely crazy

        FIFY

        1. And pussies now too.

          What happened to New Yorkers telling people to fuck off?

    3. We already kne they hated orange man, but the hate the native Americans and Asians too? That’s unbelievable

    4. Well, the First Amendment isn’t a suicide pact, but who knew that violating it could be an okay revenue stream?

  5. The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn’t be more absurd, as Americans are already voting in an election just weeks away

    There is no distinguishable difference between Elizabeth Nolan Brown and a bog-standard, liberal Democrat. Is vapidly aping leftist talking points really the best an ostensibly libertarian publication can do?

    1. And it’s a retarded talking point anyway.
      It’s not like voting has anything to do with senate SCOTUS confirmations, so what the hell is she even on about.

      1. The Government is doing two things at once, one of which doesn’t even require our approval?!? *Thunberg grimace* How dare they!

      2. yeah, the November election is to seat a new government in January. still 3 months left to fill the open Supreme Court seat.

    2. I wish all my work was put on hold every election season.

      1. That’s what I keep wondering. We keep hearing that the timing of these hearings is inappropriate because the election has already started. When exactly does an election “start”? Considering the fact that candidates are already on the trail within two years of the election, does that mean a president only has two years in which he is able to legitimately nominate justices to the court?

        1. I love that Dems DEMANDED earlier voting, then used that as a reason to oppose a SCOTUS nomination.

          I’m all for voting on election day only, personally.

          1. Clearly, then, you’re a white supremacist.

        2. Hillary Clinton was campaigning the day after Bush won his second term. Obama never stopped campaigning the day he was elected. when does election season start and end?

          1. Speaking of, she’s likely to be the SecDef if Biden-Harris “wins”

            1. well, she does have combat experience from landing in a war zone and watching drone strikes

      2. How about every flu season?

        1. Don’t worry, California will put all your work on hold every flu season from now on, most likely.

    3. Bingo.

      The only positive I can see in Trump losing is that perhaps Reason will be rid of its massive case of TDS, and can get back to being libertarian instead of a rag pushing team blue talking points.

  6. Biden is strongly considering former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates for attorney general…

    Who was the last president to choose anyone other than a dirtbag for AG?

    1. Well, at least Biden can’t choose Harris for the job.

      1. Are you sure?

        Besides, progressives told us that people, especially colored women, need two jobs to get by.

        1. That was a strange comment.

    2. Cuomo is the other candidate

  7. Sweden is not seeing a 2nd wave like the countries around it are. Is it time to admit that lockdowns were wrong yet? Even the WHO thinks so.

    https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/opinion/the-better-sweden-does-on-the-coronavirus-the-angrier-they-get

    1. But they were great for increasing bureaucratic power and government dependence with the added bonus of shuttering churches and synagogues, so it was a huge win for the overclass.

    2. Georgia is NOT seeing a “second wave” of infections either.

      I said it from the beginning.

      Everyone will need to be exposed to this virus. Either you die, you’re asymptomatic, you have some Flu like illness, you are not infected.

      The Americans who hid like scared little pussies will now be risking getting Kungflu AND Influenza strain for 2020-2021 AND colds.

  8. Coronavirus case counts continue to hit record highs in more than a dozen states.

    It’s crowding out the flu cases?

    1. Moar color codes needed!

  9. The “security guard” who shot the veteran in Denver was not licensed and rabidly anti trump. Good vetting by the local news agency.

    https://www.foxnews.com/us/denver-shooting-victim-identified-pro-cop-vet

    1. Well, when that little weak punk Rittenhouse killed 2 people y’all were loving it and claiming it was self defense because someone swung a skateboard. This poor dumb bootlicker sprayed mace and going by cop and fascist logic that justifies getting shot.

      1. Yes. Due to the videos that support self defense halfwit. Rittenhouse also has no history of political speech but was cleaning graffiti instead. And providing medical help. Totes the same.

        1. That the videos show self-defense is only a truth within conservative bubbles. For the rest of us, we’ll wait for a trial.

          1. I’m not Conservative I’m a Libertarian.

            It shows self-defense.

          2. The video shows self-defense … objectively. Rittenhouse even had a gun drawn on him.

            What do you see?

            1. Rittenhouse was walking around with a “drawn gun”. Checkmate!!

              1. Re-read. Re-process. Try again.

              2. That doesn’t mean he can’t defend himself.

                Checkmate!

            2. When they have the trial, they will consider the videos, and all kinds of context leading up to what is shown in the videos.

              1. So you’re fine with political prosecutions of a kid because eventually it will go to trial. And if he didn’t have national backings of a pro bono lawyer you’d still be fine with the political prosecution?

                You spent an entire morning denying the gun laws in Wisconsin. You are not unbiased on this. You really want the kid to be guilty.

                1. “You are not unbiased on this.”

                  Dee isn’t unbiased on anything. She’s a lefty through and through.

                2. Political prosecution?

                  He shot three people. That will usually get a person involved in some kind of trial.

          3. That the videos show self-defense is only a truth within conservative bubbles.

            So you’re saying that it definitely wasn’t self-defense, and only conservatives pretend that it was.

            But wait! White Knight knows that her shtick is pretending to be ostensibly non-partisan.

            For the rest of us, we’ll wait for a trial.

            Ha, ha, ha, the fuck you will, shill.

            1. I’m saying that I’m waiting for the trial, just as I said on the night the story broke. The videos alone give nowhere near all the facts of the case.

              1. “I’m saying that I’m waiting for the trial”

                And you’re provably lying.

              2. yes, they do. The entire timeline has been put together by multiple people and media including the NYT. You just want to deny this because you have a bias.

          4. Going with guilty until proven innocent? Bold move for someone who has yet to tell us when they’ll stop raping little kids.

            1. Going with I don’t know until proven guilty or innocent. Yes, I know that’s not the legal standard, but I’m not a court of law.

              1. Yet you continually argued against him in the initial threads. Like when you were continually ignorant of wisconsin carry laws.

                1. Holy Shit! Is it that same moron who said nobody in IL would know WI’s carry laws and/or that nobody in IL would go hunting or teach their kids to shoot in WI?

                  1. Was Rittenhouse hunting?

                    1. As someone who drives a car load of scouts from IL to the Kenosha County Conservation Club every spring, I can categorically and rather definitively say it doesn’t matter.

                    2. If you say it doesn’t matter, I can say you haven’t actually looked at Wisconsin gun laws.

                      I did. JesseAz bluffed that he did.

                2. You lie about that.

          5. This Chicago Tribune article runs counter to your first sentence.

            “Those of us on the left who are already outraged that it’s legal for civilians to openly carry military-style assault weapons in public spaces should begin now to brace for the inevitable resolution of this case.”

            https://www.chicagotribune.com/columns/eric-zorn/ct-column-rittenhouse-kenosha-self-defense-zorn-20200903-susvsg45yndn7pb67l42ywnzn4-story.html

            Worth the read.

            1. It is legal for certain people to open carry in Wisconsin. Doubtful that category includes a 17-year-old from Illinois who was not in any way engaged in hunting.

              1. “Doubtful”

                Already making legal assertions.

                1. I guess he got tired of waiting?

                2. I don’t think “doubtful” is a legal term.

              2. The White Knight
                October.12.2020 at 10:58 am
                Going with I don’t know until proven guilty or innocent. Yes, I know that’s not the legal standard, but I’m not a court of law

                The White Knight
                October.12.2020 at 11:00 am
                It is legal for certain people to open carry in Wisconsin. Doubtful that category includes a 17-year-old from Illinois who was not in any way engaged in hunting

                You manged to wait two minutes.

                Great job.

                1. Oh, yeah. My speculation is tantamount to a jury delivering a decision.

                  I’m just armchair speculating. I could be wrong.

              3. That’s addressed in the article.

                “But even those who break that law don’t forfeit their right to “use force which is intended or likely to cause death or great bodily harm (if they) reasonably believe that such force is necessary to prevent imminent death or great bodily harm to (themselves),” as Chapter 939.48, Wisconsin’s self-defense law, spells out.”

                Anyway, the purpose of the citation was to show that it’s not just conservatives (or right-leaning libertarians) who are of the opinion that the videos objectively show self-defense.

                “Eric Zorn is an op-ed columnist for the Chicago Tribune with a liberal/progressive bent who specializes in local news and politics.”

              4. Holy hell. I literally posted the relevant gun laws in a thread you were responding to. And you still assert this.

                1. Dee is one of those people that forget any evidence that doesn’t fit their narrative shortly after seeing said evidence.

                2. You did not. Go back and look. You alluded to the gun laws, then bailed on the conversation.

                  1. You bluffed, just as you are bluffing now.

          6. No, it is a truth present on video. it is backed up by the journalists, including the one who attended to the victim and transported him to the hospital, that Rittenhouse was being chased and possibly being fired at. So both video and first person views agree that Antifa/protestors initiated the conflict by chasing Rittenhouse. Tim Pool had an entire segment of an interview with the journalists directly on scene to the conflict.

            What you refuse to do is acknowledge reality.

            1. I acknowledge that right-wing narratives are reality to you.

        2. Guide to debating with JesseAz: You will know you have made a good point when he starts using name calling.

          1. Or, to the contrary, you are being called names because your “arguments” are so inane that a measured response is not warranted.

            1. B.S. Resorting to name calling is a sign you are losing the debate. Always has been.

              1. Only retards think that.

                1. See what you did there.

              2. Prove it.

                Let’s debate the issue.

              3. LOL. what an idiotic take on life.

              4. You deserve to be ridiculed and called names upon your appearance.

          2. Don’t confuse his frustration with your mendacity, with the idea that you may have scored a rhetorical “win”.

          3. you have made a good point when he starts using name calling.

            Hey, shithead! I have seen quite a few of these debates, and the name-calling inevitably starts when the fallacies start flying like Lord of Spetsnaz did above.

            Decorum is for honest discussion.

              1. Poor victimized Jesse.

            1. That was oddly in the passive voice, like JesseAz’s resorting to name calling is something he has no agency in.

              1. You don’t know what passive voice means, do you?

          4. Guide to debating with The White Knight: if he posts a post that even marginally indicates impartiality, wait 2 min. He’ll reveal the not-so-cautiously hidden preferences.

            1. And then five minutes later ask for a cite when someone accuses xer of obvious bias.

              1. xer

                This is the internet. I don’t give a shit about their gender any more than I care if they really are white. They’re a discredit to all mankind.

          5. No, I name call mostly those who argue dishonestly. You, Sqrsly, Jeff (but I repeat). If you are open to honest argumentation I would stop. But you aren’t. You’re a joke of a person.

            1. So, the libertarians here who criticize Trump.

      2. Not when you’re spraying it after the guy pointed his gun at you first like he did.

        Your boy is getting the needle!

      3. You could work on not confusing your biases and assertions with facts. It appears that the pistol and the o/c or mace canister are produced at the same time. It also appears that the spray coincides with the shot, so it can be argued, and may be, that Keltner was trying to defend himself from Dolloff, who shot him. What one cannot say is why Keltner hit Dolloff. Your dislike for Rittenhouse doesn’t change the facts in his case either, but it makes your biases well-known.

        1. Just like I said when the Rittenhouse story broke, everyone should wait at least a week for the facts to come out before coming to any conclusions. Any story like this is misreported at first.

          1. The facts are out on Rittenhouse. The more that came out, the better it was for him

      4. Thanks for arguing that when your Antifa allies spray mace at a protest, they can be shot.

        1. “Thanks for arguing that when before your Antifa allies spray mace at a protest, they can be shot.”

      5. Actually they shot at Kyle first. Which you can see in the video. And there’s some evidence that suggests Kyle only killed one person, that the first guy was killed by one of his buddies shooting behind him at Kyle.

        But hey in Denver, we have the photographs showing the shooter started the confrontation and tried to steal the victim’s holstered gun, and was slapped for his efforts. The victim then tried to retreat and was shot for his efforts.

        1. The victim then tried to retreat and was shot for his efforts.

          A retreating opponent is not an immanent threat to life. Neither is mace. Considering that Kyle was being chased every time he pulled the trigger, the cases are not remotely similar.

          Not that that will stop Lord of Stretchpants from setting up the straw man or the White Nugget for equivocating.

      6. If you watched a second video other than the approved Antifa video, you would see that the “security guard” attacked first, that’s why the guy took out his mace.

      7. He was shot at before he turned around and shot the midget pedo wigger charging him.

        He was then attacked by a crowd yelling “get him”, including one with a gun drawn on him who admitted he hoped to kill him

        If only you were there in front of one of the bullets instead

    2. It was poor vetting, but the blame should be laid on Pinkerton.

      1. Incorrect.

      2. Pinkerton has no record of him.

        1. You may have more recent info than what I read last night. Cite?

      3. blame should be laid on Pinkerton

        Look at WK, throwing out ‘Pinkerton’ like it’s the 1890s or some shit. Another shmuck who took AP History in high school and thinks he knows something.

        Professional security guards don’t murder people while on duty.

        1. The news station tried to throw Pinkerton (yes, they’re still around) under the bus, but they’ve denied employment and there’s no record of the killer as a security guard anywhere.
          9 news is definitely getting sued into oblivion.
          If it can be proved that Pinkerton subcontracted to Dolloff themselves, so will they.
          But I’m skeptical that Pinkerton had any real involvement.

          1. Leslie Herod, who represents Colorado’s House District 8 (the Park Hill and Five Points areas), was jawboning the Denver Post into saying that Dolloff was a “security guard” after their initial reporting was released.

            The thing is, how would she know what Dolloff was doing there?

      4. Pinkerton has no records of him being a security guard you halfwit. Do you even try to follow events? The news station made the claim, Pinkerton denied it.

        1. I stand corrected. The latest news is that he is not a Pinkerton employee.

          This underlined the point I made above that there will be lots of misreporting at first.

      5. Look at Dee making an assumption before getting all the facts, lol. You’re truly a special kind of retard.

    3. There’s still a LOT more that will come out with that, but here’s what I’ve learned based on what dox have been exposed:

      -He has contacts in Black Bloc going back to the Occupy Denver days in 2012.
      -His wrist tattoo is associated with symbology used by an Austrian Antifa group, Rosa Antifa Wien, that was fashionable with radical Front Range lefties in the mid-2010s.
      -He had a ham radio call number and was looking to start up some kind of progressive radio show or podcast a few years ago.

      What’s interesting here is that the 9News reporters either MASSIVELY fucked up and didn’t check his security guard credentials, since he wasn’t licensed to do so, or the producer/reporter involved that hired him already knew who he was and figured they’d save money on the expense account for a security guard, since he’d work for them cheaper than some random contractor.

      The other thing to take into consideration here is that Antifa will only let reporters they deem to by sympathetic to them to film their activities–you need a contact within the local cell that will vet them and let the other cell members know not to go after that person, because the reporter will give them a sympathetic write-up.

      Back on October 7th, 9News anchor Kyle Clark posted a now-deleted “Is this Antifa?” meme on his Twitter, and an Antifa-aligned account claimed that he was “one of them” and they would protect him. So the station reporters are clearly known by the local Antifa leaders.

      1. Unlike you guys I’m not obsessed with it. It’ll be down the memory hole….. what was I taking about…look at the pretty clouds. Do you know what, I watched a great movie this weekend. It’s called Mud. Best movie I’ve seen in awhile. It really touched my heart.

        1. Seethe more.

        2. Lord of Strazele
          October.12.2020 at 10:41 am
          Unlike you guys I’m not obsessed with it.

          Lol Ok.

          Lord of Strazele
          October.12.2020 at 10:08 am
          Well, when that little weak punk Rittenhouse killed 2 people y’all were loving it and claiming it was self defense because someone swung a skateboard. This poor dumb bootlicker sprayed mace and going by cop and fascist logic that justifies getting shot

        3. “It’ll be down the memory hole”

          Yet you’ll keep bringing up “Charlottesville” after 3 years, despite this series of murders being much clearer in motivation

  10. “it looks like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is willing to put the health of his colleagues and others at risk.”

    Ok.

    ” The two committee members who tested positive for COVID-19 recently”

    Ok but what does that have to do with putting their health at risk?

    1. “I can’t come into work today, driving there puts my health at risk.”

    2. Move zig, for great justice!

  11. The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn’t be more absurd…

    This all could be cured with a GOVERNMENT SHUTDOWN.

    1. Why can’t they work from home?

    2. always an appropriate response.
      just don’t cordon off open public space this time.

      1. and no back pay.
        and no reinstating nonessential government workers.

  12. Math association doubles down. Math is racist and needs CRT.

    https://www.campusreform.org/?ID=15891

    1. Now we know where DOL and Tony received their education.

  13. I’m breaking with my normal behavior and only posting this (someone else can do the Denver channel 9 shooting and the Teddy Roosevelt/Lincoln statues being torn down in Portland).

    https://twitter.com/TomBevanRCP/status/1315254934812659712
    With lightning speed, the Associated Press adopts Democrats’ language on SCOTUS: adding members is now “depoliticizing” the court, only “critics” refer to it as “packing.”

    1. Progressives Prepare To Cross The Rubicon

      https://www.bookwormroom.com/2020/10/12/progressives-prepare-to-cross-the-rubicon/

      Court packing is one of the first — and inevitably irreversible — steps in deconstructing a Constitutional government and replacing it with a socialist police state. There are many examples throughout history, but most recently, remember this from 2004, when Hugo Chavez took the first step in turning his country into a one-party socialist nightmare:

      The Venezuelan Congress dealt a severe blow to judicial independence by packing the country’s Supreme Court with 12 new justices, Human Rights Watch said today. A majority of the ruling coalition, dominated by President Hugo Chávez’s party, named the justices late yesterday, filling seats created by a law passed in May that expanded the court’s size by more than half.

      And just as a reminder, Venezuela went from the most successful nation in South America in 2000 to now, only a mere two decades later, a failed state living under de facto martial law. The ruling party elites live well in Venezuela, but for all not part of that small group, starvation and astronomical inflation make life in Venezuela a living hell. The quickest way to end up dead or in jail is to publicly oppose Chavez’s hand-picked successor, Maduro. Maduro and his elite, having inherited one party rule from Chavez, have no intention of relinquishing power, whether by fair means or foul. To quote a common bit of wisdom, “you can vote your way into socialism but you have to shoot your way out.” Sixteen years ago, Venezuela packed its Supreme Court, and today, it is in the shooting phase of its political evolution at a cataclysmic cost to the country.

      We’ve had a nine-member Supreme Court since 1869. The only reason to change the number of Judges now is because the left, like Chavez, wants to permanently control the Court, and by it, the country itself. This has everything to do with raw power.

      1. As election-time strategy goes, this could be risky for Republicans, since some conservatives may feel compelled to vote for Trump only if a Supreme Court seat is at stake.

        Not filling open SC seats is not doing what GOP voters voted them in for – if they don’t do that, why bother?

      2. https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1314546946661666817.html

        “Democracy” would be the worst of all worlds – tyranny by mob rule, with the oppressors claiming their every fancy was fully and completely sanctified because they won a vote, and why should we let a stubborn minority thwart The Will of the People?
        One of the things “democracy” fetishists don’t understand – or don’t want YOU to understand – is that you don’t amass majoritarian power by convincing a majority of the people to agree with you. It’s FAR easier to gain power by suppressing those who disagree.
        The childlike view of “democracy” is some great lively national conversation where we all decide what we’re going to do together. The Democrat Party actually used that as an insipid slogan during the Obama years – “government is just a name for the things we do together.”
        The reality is aggressive, power-hungry groups intimidating and oppressing the opposition to get what they want. They loudly insist those who disagree with them have no moral standing to participate in “democracy.” The number of ideas that can be voted on grows ever smaller.
        Getting 51% of the people in a huge nation to agree with you is a sucker’s game. Preventing 51% from banding together to stop you is MUCH easier. It’s funny how in theory everything is on the table in an unrestrained majoritarian democracy, but in practice nothing really is.

        1. “Nine seems to be a good number. It’s been that way for a long time,” she said, adding, “I think it was a bad idea when President Franklin Roosevelt tried to pack the court.” . . .

          “If anything would make the court look partisan,” she said, “it would be that — one side saying, ‘When we’re in power, we’re going to enlarge the number of judges, so we would have more people who would vote the way we want them to.’ ”

          That impairs the idea of an independent judiciary, she said.
          — RGB

          “There’s nothing in the Constitution that says the president stops being the president in his last year,” Ginsburg said in a 2016 New York Times interview in which she called for Garland to receive a confirmation vote in the Senate.

          As for whether the Senate should take up a vote on Garland, Ginsburg said at the time, “That’s their job.”
          — RGB

    2. The style guides, at least AP and APA, have for years now been embarrassing in theIr willingness to choose dishonesty and obfuscation over clarity. “Depoliticizing” indeed. When APA called the use of “chronic” to refer to illness stigmatizing, it made me want to vomit. Yeah, plain speech is stigmatizing.

  14. In the rush to confirm before the November election, it looks like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is willing to put the health of his colleagues and others at risk.

    Our precious, precious legislators.

    1. This is unconscionable. Our legislators can’t be asked to make these kinds of risks. If they get a virus, there’s 3% chance they could die. These sorts of risks should only be taken by the people who grow our food, distribute it, stock the store shelves, make and distribute goods, build and maintain houses and commercial buildings, create and distribute sanitizers and other goods to maintain hygene, run our sewage system, run our water treatment plants, run our power plants, build and maintain our roads, work in nursing homes, work as nurses in hospitals, work as doctors in hospitals, the police, the firefighters, the EMT’s and few other jobs that constitute millions of jobs.

      However, you can’t ask our legislators to take these risks. We need them to lead!

  15. There are 22 senators on the judiciary committee, each of whom is given 10 minutes Monday for an opening statement.

    Each is free to abstain from spewing their breath at the judge.

    1. wait, the Senators get opening statements? Shouldn’t the nominee get the opening statement? Aren’t opening statements from the voters like preseason football polls?

      1. Like everything else congress critters do, it’s really just a photo op and a chance to get a good 10 second talking point video that can be used in their commercials or on the news to gather recognition for votes. There is no logical reason why there needs to be four hours of monologuing before they can start the hearings.

  16. Johnny rotten on Trump:

    “What I dislike is the left-wing media in America are trying to smear the bloke as a racist and that’s completely not true,” the rocker said. “He’s a total cat amongst the pigeons … [He’s] got everybody now involving themselves in a political way. And I’ve been struggling for years to get people to wake up and do that.”

    1. “Yes, of course, I’m voting for Trump,” Lydon later added. “It’s bad person or not. I don’t want a politician running this world anymore.”

      1. Do you have a link for this? This is truly hilarious.

          1. Sex pistols member voting for a republican…wasnt that the opening scene of the 7th seal?

            1. didn’t Labour ruin England in the late 60s –> early 70s?

    2. Whatever. It’s a stupid reason to vote for Trump.

      1. You’re saying you’re super butthurt then.

        1. No I’m saying voting for someone because you’re butthurt over that someone being labeled a racist is pretty lame and even lamer when said someone is arguably racist.

          1. “No I’m saying”

            No one cares what a butthurt loser like you is saying.

      2. No grasshopper, it is not.

        1. Judging by how it made the right people angry, you’re 100% correct.

      3. Stunning rebuttal. Are you solving the entscheidungsproblem next? And what will you do with the rest of the day?

      4. There are plenty of better ones, not least of which he drives lefty shits like you absolutely nuts.

        1. Well I’m past that stage now Sevo. He’s actually the perfect foe because he’s so pathetic and crazy. It’s been fun actually.

          1. Now you sound lile my crazy ex trying to pretend she is cool with getting RO’d.

  17. “The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn’t be more absurd”

    While the Trump presidency could rightly be described as “absurd” I’m not sure what that has to do with the perfectly normal timing.

  18. Baiden shameful election~

    Torānpu 2020 baby ! ! !

    1. I think Torānpu should wait until 2024.

  19. Does the Hon. stand for Honey? Barrett ,I assume, had her going over in the previous confirmation, or is this the double dog dare confirmation?

    1. And why are we supposed to assume that all judges are honorable? Shouldn’t they have to prove it first?

  20. Her confirmation can and probably will be done before Election Day, at which point Trump’s SCOTUS voters can—and, on this very basis, should—dump him as swiftly and mercilessly as he’d dump them were they no longer politically useful…

    Haven’t you heard? The COVID is felling government leaders like flies (mixaphorically speaking). More SCOTUS seats are bound to come vacant in the wake of Trump’s coronapocalypse.

  21. Something I was thinking about yesterday. We keep hearing that the timing of this nomination is inappropriate because the election has already started. But when exactly does an election “start”? Considering the fact that candidates are already on the trail within two years of the election, does that mean a president only has two years in which he is able to legitimately nominate justices to the court? Or has an election only started after the major parties have held their nominating conventions? If it’s the latter, what is to stop the parties from holding their conventions two years into a president’s term and rendering everything else he does for the remainder of his tenure “illegitimate”?

    1. Elections, like wars, are forever.

  22. Only worthwhile comedy from SNL the last 2 weeks:

    “I’ve got to tell you, the way white women somehow hijacked the woke movement … generals around the world should be analyzing this,” Burr said. “The woke movement was supposed to be about people of color not getting opportunities… finally making that happen. And it was about that for about eight seconds. And then somehow, white women swung their Gucci-booted feet over the fence of oppression and stuck themselves at the front of the line.”

    1. Of course then he shit all over himself by bitching that we should sit and be lectured.

    2. Huh? that wasn’t funny at all.

      1. Yeah, it seemed really stupid to me.

        If you go to the BLM site, it isn’t White Women that receive specific lip service in their founding documents. But for some reason, “Trans Black Women” are called out specifically as very important to the BLM movement. Who hijacked who?

    3. Most politics in America is two groups of white people trying to leverage the minority vote to gain advantage.

  23. “Meanwhile, senior Republicans on the confirmation committee are refusing to take coronavirus tests before everyone meets.”

    My body, my choice?

  24. The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn’t be more absurd…

    In the rush to confirm before the November election, it looks like Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell is willing to put the health of his colleagues and others at risk…

    “Her confirmation can and probably will be done before Election Day, at which point Trump’s SCOTUS voters can—and, on this very basis, should—dump him as swiftly and mercilessly as he’d dump them were they no longer politically useful,” writes Bonnie Kristian at The Week.

    ENB shows her stripes as a passive-aggressive Democrat shill. Why Reason has her stumping for the roundup is beyond me. Mangu-Ward writes about how we don’t have to vote DeRp, but her and everyone else at Reason sure as shit has a preference and it’s the side that stumps for ever more socialism and supports the Maxists in the streets.

  25. The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn’t be more absurd, as Americans are already voting in an election just weeks away, questions remain about the completeness of Barrett’s paperwork, and two members of the judiciary committee recently came down with COVID-19.

    Lol. How pathetic. A lot of dont matters there. Whats absurd is the claim it was unconstitutional by biden. At least reason didn’t go that far.

    1. Why is Tulpa stealing JesseAz’s handle now?

      1. This should be fun.

        1. If abject boredom is fun to you, then perhaps you need a girl, mate.

          1. No I meant you getting laughed at for being wrong and stupid.

          2. Laughing at leftist idiocy is boring for leftists. I guess. Now do you want to address how ENBs statement cited above or bidens claims of it being unconstitutional are valid?

            1. He clearly had me confused with White Knight.

              1. He is for certain a handle cloner. And a sock. And an idiot.

      2. By the way. The only 2 people who have attempted to mimic me are WK and sqrsly. Both utterly failed because they are too dumb to form complete thoughts.

    2. Yet he didn’t think that it was unconstitutional four years ago when he was barking like a mad dog for it.

      1. Tomorrow we will hear how Republicans are packing the Court and adding seats will “de-politicize” it.

  26. DONARUDO TORANPU 2020 ! ! ! O YEA BABY ! ! !

  27. Something strange is going on with California ballot boxes.

    Yes. These ballots without full accountability of tracing from voter to election official is ripe for fraud. Way to figure this out after 6 months of claiming no mail/ballot fraud dumbfucks.

    1. Biden will win California with eleventy-trillion votes, blowing away Trump’s stupid electoral college with the force of an overwhelming majority.

    2. “These ballots without full accountability of tracing from voter to election official is ripe for fraud. ”

      Mail in voting via these ballots contains far more accountability and tracing than normal voting. Each ballot is uniquely identifiable to the person who cast it. I can’t use my wife’s ballot, and she cannot use mine. Both of us can go to a website and confirm that our ballot was counted.

      With precinct voting, all you can confirm is that you checked in at the precinct. Whether or not your ballot was collected, shipped, or counted is completely unknown.

      That is not to say that it is risk free. The trade off for decreasing the likelihood that a ballot is fraudulently cast, is that they can be lost. So there is room for negative fraud- throwing away ballots in districts you know are likely to go one way or the other. But of course the same is true at the precinct level, and I at least know whether or not my ballot was received.

      1. I prefer my vote to be anonymous.

      2. Each ballot is uniquely identifiable to the person who cast it. I can’t use my wife’s ballot, and she cannot use mine.

        They have biometric identifiers on the ballots? How would they stop you from using your wife’s ballot if it’s not one you have to show up in person to use? What, you have to double-dog pinky swear that you are your wife and not you when you fill out your wife’s ballot? Do you actually have a wife or did you just claim you were your wife when you got that same-day registration form at the McDonalds’ drive-thru?

      3. The ballot is not identifiable, the return address is. All you need to do is collect random return ballot envelopes and you can change the vote however you want. This includes taking envelopes already sealed, opening them, and changing the ballot. T his was discussed by the Dem operative in the NY Post interview.

  28. “While millions lost jobs, some executives made millions in company stock”
    […]
    “Even as millions of people have lost their jobs during the pandemic, the soaring stock market since the spring has delivered outsize gains to the wealthiest Americans. And few among the superrich have done as well as corporate executives who received stock awards this year.”
    https://www.bizjournals.com/charlotte/news/2020/10/08/executives-stock-awards-new-york-times.html
    Politics of envy? Check.
    No word about governors knee-capping the economies? Check.
    NYT feed? Check.

    1. So why has my bank stock languished about 50% lower than it was way back in 2008?

    2. Money, like math, is racist.

  29. “Yelp adds alerts for businesses accused of racism”
    […]
    “New York (CNN Business)Businesses accused of “overtly racist actions” from customers may soon see a warning on their Yelp page…”
    https://www.cnn.com/2020/10/09/business/yelp-consumer-racism-alert-trnd/index.html

    1. Finally, I can voice my opinion that they keep messing up my order at the drive through because I am white. I asked for no damn mustard because I am allergic! Are you trying to kill me?

      Where is that white genocide guy to confirm this?

      1. There is no such thing as white genocide. Its called reparations.

    2. There is a McDonald’s by my work where they will get your order wrong if you don’t order in spanish

    3. Let the dilution of the term ‘racist’ commence….

  30. CASES!

    It’s amazing how the media has simply given up on reporting on actual negative effects (hospitalizations, ER overflow, deaths, etc.).

    Yes, it’s not the season flu. Still, never in human history have we monitored the seasonal flu anywhere near as aggressively as we’re monitoring COVID. Yet…CASES! As if we have any real baseline to compare it to.

    1. Sort of. I just saw the media again reporting on the dangers of 90% hospital usage for ICU. Which is normal. But they are still hyping it to gaslight. They ignored the low percent dedicated to Covid.

      1. Remember how stupid most reporters are. And how stupid they think we are.

      2. They ignored the low percent dedicated to Covid.

        Not just percentage due to COVID either. If they were really polling hospital admissions the way they were tracking COVID, you’re seeing lots of (e.g.) DVT from being shut indoors and complications from surgeries that were put off during lockdown.

      3. And Wisconsin is the new epicenter, which they are blaming on Republicans and the bars being open, even though they’ve been open for months. Probably not wanting to mention the mass protest super spreader event in Wisconsin a few weeks ago.

        1. Weird how that’s never mentioned, right?!?!?!?

  31. I posted this elsewhere here, but this article in Tablet demonstrates how Warren Buffett, George Soros and Rockefeller have poured millions into BLM and Antifa. It also shows corporations like Square, Ubisoft, Google, Spanx, Tom’s Shoes, Lululemon, Nike, and Anastasia Beauty all making six- and seven-figure organizational pledges.

    https://www.tabletmag.com/sections/news/articles/warren-buffett-black-lives-matter

    America is in the bizarro-world situation whereby the aristocracy is mounting a Marxist revolution against the working class.

    1. What they want is literal Fascism/Corporatism, the form of Socialism where the people at the top are cemented there forever at the cost of some taxes and regulations they can afford but any startup competitor cannot. Government control with a veneer of ‘private’ ownership; CEOs are rich and safe in regulated industry with the agreement if the government needs a fall guy, they retire with golden parachutes.

      https://www.britannica.com/topic/corporatism
      Corporatism, Italian corporativismo, also called corporativism, the theory and practice of organizing society into “corporations” subordinate to the state. According to corporatist theory, workers and employers would be organized into industrial and professional corporations serving as organs of political representation and controlling to a large extent the persons and activities within their jurisdiction. However, as the “corporate state” was put into effect in fascist Italy between World Wars I and II, it reflected the will of the country’s dictator, Benito Mussolini, rather than the adjusted interests of economic groups.

      1. If a corp is ‘privately’ owned, the government has deniability if government policies cause problems – blame the ‘private’ owners for doing what the government demanded.

    2. Of course they are. They want a marxist dictatorship like they have in China, where the moneyed aristocracy (ie. them) gets absolute control over the state and the peasants are kept obedient to aristocratic dictates by a social credit score system. All for the good of the people, of course.

    3. All Marxists are wrong, none are useful

  32. Goddammit, they’re not letting me post again, hitting “submit” just kicks me back to the article.

    1. They finally got around to reading what you post.

    2. If you don’t like it you can start your own Reason Roundup.

  33. Oh my God, I’m going to party like it’s 1999 when ACB gets shoved straight up Lizzie’s enraged lipstick lesbian monkey ass.

  34. “The timing of the hearings—which begin today and are scheduled through Thursday—couldn’t be more absurd,”

    Really? *Absurd* you say? What reasons has ENB identified that make the Senate doing what it is supposed to do suddenly absurd?

    “Americans are already voting in an election just weeks away”

    How does this make a confirmation absurd? Americans pretty much know that ACB is going to be confirmed. They can vote based on that or- bare with me here- if they are really concerned, they can wait a week or two to see how this all shakes out. (Spoiler: SCB is our next SC Justice.) Frankly, the only reason I think she put this here is that she learned to always have at least 3 items in a list.

    “questions remain about the completeness of Barrett’s paperwork”

    Again- how does this make the timing “absurd”. Barrett has been confirmed before. She has gone through the ringer multiple times. But all of a sudden, Democrats have submitted a bunch of “Supplemental Judiciary Questions”. Now, color me skeptical, but something tells me that if new questions could delay the proceedings, Senate Democrats would be sending new questions each day.

    “two members of the judiciary committee recently came down with COVID-19.”

    Finally we get to something that, maybe, could be concerning. But as noted above, there is nothing difficult about running proceedings virtually, and then figuring out a way to vote safely. And BTW: this vote out of Judiciary doesn’t actually require a majority. ACB can be passed to the senate floor with an “Unfavorable” vote, and still receive a senate confirmation.

    Overall, using the term “Absurd” just outs ENB as yet another person throwing a temper tantrum for 2020.

    1. Plainly hypocritical? Yes. Absurd? No. Inability to elucidate the difference? ENB.

    2. Hmm, using her logic we should shut down all government functions “during the election”. Given non-stop campaigning, that could free us from official stupidity forever.

      Maybe ENB is a closet libertarian after all.

    1. So whataboutism is your best play?

      1. No he is admittimg that mail in voting is a terrible idea because it is ripe for abuse.

        1. Not really. The guy got caught.

      2. Read the article guys.
        It’s a sketchy-as-fuck attempt to link a posed picture from a regional field director for the California Republican Party, to unverified reports of fake ballot boxes.

        This is blatantly dishonest propaganda and White Knight knows it.

        1. “Read the article guys.”

          “The White Knight”

          pass

        2. We are now suddenly concerned with quality of evidence in tweets.

        3. I don’t see how it is dishonest when the article says it is still being investigated. It claims nothing more than it claims.

      3. This is more hoist on own petard territory.

    2. “Democrats have abused it for years but now that Republicans have done it we can safely let the Dems off the hook” – White Knight

      1. Those darned Democrats

        Clear defense of Democrats, watch him tie himself in knots trying to pretend it isn’t.

        1. How is it in any way defending voter fraud by Democrats? You CACLL really need to brush up on your Venn diagrams.

      2. Suspicious lack of any such statement by me about letting Democrats off the hook.

    3. Next time the “California Psychics” will harvest your votes through their amazing powers.

    4. You do realize that the linked article was all about Republican votes being collected in invalid dropboxes and posts targeted at Republicans. Does it seem odd to anyone else that Republicans would be collect their own ballots in a way that could potentially invalidate them? The logic seems backwards on this.

      1. It seems to be, and I’m speculating here, the story of a young, inexperienced county-level GOP central committee member not knowing election law.

    5. Hold up, he posed for a “remember to vote” picture in front of an obvious prop that doesn’t exist, and the OC Register is linking it to anonymous reports of ballot boxes that nobody has actually ever found?

      Fuck off.

      1. Desperation…a stinky cologne…by Shite Knight

      2. Re-read the article. They are all matters being investigated, which is why it was newsworthy.

  35. http://twitter.com/RossDiMattei/status/1314974872062185472

    I pressed
    @JoeBiden
    on whether he plans to #PackTheCourt if he wins and whether voters deserve an answer to the question. Here’s his response:
    #Election2020 #Nevada #LasVegas #SupremeCourt
    @KTNV
    #VOTE

  36. “The stunning lack of pandemic safety in San Francisco’s Marina District”
    […]
    “At 7:30 p.m. on a warm Friday evening, a mustached, maskless young man walks up to a table of four women munching on fries and sipping martinis. He asks if he can buy them shots. They laugh and banter with him as he leans against their small table. He eventually leaves and returns with shot glasses dripping down the sides with bourbon, allowing his thumb to brush the rim of at least one glass while he sets them down on the table. His friends yell across the length of sidewalk seating at him, teasing him and he yells playfully back…”
    https://www.sfgate.com/local/article/Outdoor-dining-marina-san-francisco-covid-15632141.php

    Concern troll is CONCERNED!

    1. Psst! Alcohol kills germs!

    2. a progressive is someone who is worried that somewhere, someone might be enjoying themselves. or is that a Puritan? Hard to tell the difference these days.

  37. Can I mention the “security guard” who shot the pro-Trump demonstrator in Colorado? How he wasn’t a security guard in the sense of being a licensed and bonded and uniformed agent of a security firm, but a security guard in the sense of being an Antifa/BLM-certified escort for an Antifa/BLM-certified “journalist” to make sure the “journalist” isn’t hassled by any Antifa/BLM members who don’t realize that she’s one of them?

    It should be a scandal that the media isn’t reporting on the fact that if you’re watching news camera footage of one of these “mostly peaceful protests”, you’re watching propaganda because the only way you’re allowed to film without being attacked and beaten and having your camera smashed is if you agree to film only what Antifa/BLM want you to film. You’re not allowed to film protestors attacking the police, you’re only allowed to film the police reacting to the attacks so that it looks like the police are the ones initiating the violence, for example. It’s pure propaganda, and the fucking media won’t tell you that it’s pure propaganda.

    1. And yet here’s the media dutifully going along with the propaganda that this was a security guard protecting a journalist when the truth is it was one member of Antifa protecting another – one Antifa member pretending to be a security guard, the other pretending to be a journalist.

      1. And can we talk about the media playing along with the propaganda that Gretchen Whitmer was almost kidnapped by a right-wing militia group? Gretchen Whitmer was never in any danger – the whole thing was a false flag operation by the FBI desperate to show that Donald Trump and his hordes – Hordes! Hordes I tells ya! – of violent white supremacist racist Nazi right-wing extremist bogeymen were the real danger here and not the one or two moderate leftist mostly peaceful protestors out in Oregon or wherever. Focus people! Trump is the real Russian danger here! Not the actual communists openly talking about destroying America.

        1. This is actually a big deal. Its like the FBI is auditioning to be the secret police after the progressive revolution.

        2. setting fire to a federal court house isn’t “openly talking”

    2. That’s fucked up, and also not surprising. What benefit would a partisan democrat get from giving coverage to that information? You don’t admit you did something wrong if the people who pay your bills don’t know you did it.

    3. an Antifa/BLM-certified escort for an Antifa/BLM-certified “journalist” to make sure the “journalist” isn’t hassled by any Antifa/BLM members

      Protection racket. Antifa are organized criminals intent on becoming organized terrorists.

      1. They just want to make sure the only journalists who can report on the action are their journalists.

        anti-fa apparently would have taken out any journalist who wasn’t protected by an anti-fa approved security guard.

        1. “We would hate for your camera to get ‘broke’ on your way to the protest. We can make sure that don’t happen for a reasonable price. Yo, Billy Pinkerton, show this guy our website!

          “I assure you we are completely legit.”

      2. if they ever progress past the “idea” stage

    4. “Can I mention the “security guard” who shot the pro-Trump demonstrator in Colorado . . . . [was] a security guard in the sense of being an Antifa/BLM-certified escort for an Antifa/BLM-certified “journalist” to make sure the “journalist” isn’t hassled by any Antifa/BLM members who don’t realize that she’s one of them?”

      No you can’t mention that because that would be racist.

    5. It’s definitely not SOP for long-established news organizations to hire random unlicensed people as security. 9News has been owned by Gannett News for over 35 years, and the potential liability is off the charts for just hiring some random yabbo.

  38. Sweden’s stunning success in reducing Covid deaths (and new cases) continues to be ignored by the news media, especially by those who condemned Sweden’s wise (and scientifically sound) decision to not shut down businesses.

    Sweden’s daily Covid death rate has remained below 0.33 per million people (i.e. <3 Covid deaths per day in Sweden) since the beginning of August, below 0.2 per million since the beginning of September, and has been close to 0.1 death per million for the past several weeks (i.e. 1 death per day in Sweden).

    In sharp contrast, the US daily Covid death rate has fluctuated between 2.1 and 3.5 per million since May 25.
    https://ourworldindata.org/coronavirus-data-explorer?yScale=log&zoomToSelection=true&time=2020-03-01..latest&country=USA~SWE~ESP~GBR~FRA~NLD~BEL~MNE~ISR~CZE~UKR~POL~RUS&region=World&deathsMetric=true&interval=smoothed&perCapita=true&smoothing=7&pickerMetric=gdp_per_capita&pickerSort=desc

    But of course, the news media cannot bring itself to report that the daily Covid death rate in the US is 20 times greater than in Sweden.

  39. The New York City fines “went to to people, businesses and houses of worship,” including “a restaurant and at least five houses of worship,” reports The New York Times.

    We wouldn’t want that money going to feed the poor or getting counseling for the distressed. That is what congregations get for trying to do the government’s job.

    1. The government is a jealous god,

  40. The “get woke and go broke” argument still seems to be holding water–in sports especially.

    Although, of course, there are other explanations for some of the tanking. One claim was that the NFL was hurting the NBA playoffs’ ratings. Ahem . . .

    On Friday night with virtually no competition — all we had was the San Diego Padres going up against the St. Louis Cardinals as the only other major sporting event going on — Only 4.5 million people watched the NBA Finals Game 2. That’s the fewest number of people who have ever watched an NBA Finals going all the way back through my entire life. Fewer than any point in the last 40 years.

    https://foxsportsradio.iheart.com/content/2020-10-05-clay-travis-on-tanking-nba-finals-tv-ratings-get-woke-go-broke/

    Meanwhile, as I mentioned last week, Sunday Night Football ratings were down 37% from the year before.

    Maybe this is all pandemic related. Maybe if there were tickets for sale, former Redskins fans would be buying tickets to watch the “Football Team”. Maybe they wouldn’t because the team sucks. That hasn’t stopped plenty of them from buying tickets in the past, but if there were a big drop in sales, maybe it would all be because of the pandemic and how sorry and sad the team is playing.

    Maybe all of Disney’s problems are pandemic related, too! Mulan flopping with its intended audience in China isn’t necessarily related to the star criticizing the Hong Kong protests. And maybe the reason hardly anybody wanted to pay an extra $30 to see Mulan on Disney+ had nothing to do with Disney’s general association with wokeness. Maybe Americans would be flocking back to Disneyland and Disney World–and they wouldn’t be laying off 20,000+ from across their whole operations–if it weren’t for the pandemic.

    It’ll be interesting to see if the ratings of the new Star Trek Discovery season are as abysmal as Star Trek Discovery’s first season debut on broadcast television.

    It’ll be interesting to see what happens to these companies and these sports leagues when the pandemic is over. I guess it’s not very woke of me to suspect that market statistics are more telling about what customers are doing and why than whatever explanations SJWs are selling. But I strongly suspect that aggressively pissing off half or more of your customers is bad for business.

    1. that Friday night Cards-Pads game was worth watching.

    2. The Washington Football Team Formerly Known as the Redskins has a ring to it. They can shorten it to the Washington FKRs.

      1. The Washington FTFKRs – slumpbusters welcome!

        1. I wrote it out and then missed the better joke. Fuck me, I am getting slow…

          1. It wouldn’t have worked as well without the setup.

            1. From now on, I will just refer to them as the Washington Footballers. Those who can hear the dog whistles will know what I mean.

    3. Disney and the woke NBA can’t get fans to watch in the comfort of their own homes, on demand, for $30 or less.

      In states like mine with a $10 licensing fee, 90+ day waits for licenses, and another $4 fee + 72 hour waiting periods on all arms purchases after that, they can’t keep guns and ammo on the shelves and there have been lines to get on the range. More women and couples than I’ve ever seen purchasing before. More people being exposed to the idiocy that is FOID licensing than I’ve ever seen before.

      Polls show Biden leading, so I can only assume it’s a bunch of people showing up to practice firing their double-barreled shotguns into the air. Still not sure why shotgun ammo is in adequate supply but 9mm, .223, and .308 are in short supply though.

    4. Good luck NBA and NFL. They can take they’re SJW non-sense and shove it. Never watching again.

      MLB is on probation. Not watching now. Maybe in a few years when they’re proven they’re not taking the SJW path. The Yanks/Nats kneeling for home opener made it clear to me – no thanks on your product.

  41. Yea, I know. Couldn’t resist.

    https://twitter.com/KelemenCari/status/1315381363315535873
    That Cindy McCain endorsement of Joe Biden really turned out the Arizona supporters. Just kidding. No one show up.

    1. It’s a testament of just how bad the Democrats are that it’s taken them decades and massive Californian/Mexican immigration to get to a point where Arizona could be the next Colorado, because the Arizona GOP is about as pathetic an operation as I’ve ever seen.

      1. 30,000 cars turn out for a Trump parade in Miami and Joe’s + Kamala’s first joint campaign event can’t get a dozen people to show up… but we should totes believe the polls

    2. My favorite part is the white ‘cone of silence’ circles they’ve laid out. Like there are any adults beyond the most Biden-crazed Karens out there going “Oooh, distancing circles! Good idea!”

      1. Especially after seeing Biden pull his mask down, cough into his fist, and then pull the mask back up.

  42. From Friday to now, over $150,000 in fines from 62 summonses were handed out by City agents in the Red, Orange and Yellow zones, including 5 to non-compliant religious congregations.

    Fuck. Off. Slavers.

  43. Man if she gets on and helps kill Obamacare right off… i don’t know if I can take so much winning in a row..

    1. +1000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000000

  44. lol nobody showed @Biden-Harris event in Arizona where’s the blurb about a zero attendance event?

    1. I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016, but I never laughed as hard as I did the night he won. I was still laughing every time I thought about it for weeks afterwards.

      We were still talking about the progressives and their “pants shitting” for months afterwards. If Trump wins this time, it’s gonna be even funnier.

      If Trump wins this time, we’ll see Kwisatz Haderach level pants-shitting. I’m talking about a shit-slide that will cover this entire country. A raging shit-firestorm. A shitnami tidal wave that’ll engulf and extinguish their progressive shit-flames for years. And with any luck, the SJWs and the socialists will drown in the undershit of that wave.

      I’m talking pants-shitting shit-waves of biblical proportions.

      I’m not saying it will happen or even that it will probably happen. I’m saying that if and when the shitnami happens, it’ll be the funniest thing that ever happens. They’ll be looting and rioting, and I’ll be rolling on the floor howling with laughter at their pants-shitting. How will they justify it? Who will they blame?

      Makes me laugh just to think about it.

      1. four years in and I still can’t believe the not-politician won … and agreed the next four will be even more fun.

      2. open rebellion is no laughing matter

        1. Please elaborate.

          I’m thinking secession of coastal fringes; we can throw in Chicago for a W. Berlinish flyover.

      3. I didn’t vote for Trump in 2016, but I never laughed as hard as I did the night he won. I was still laughing every time I thought about it for weeks afterwards.

        Same here! I couldn’t stop laughing while watching the coverage of the returns and the distressed looks and voices of the newscasters getting worse and worse… so damn funny.

        1. Rachel Madcow crying. I want moar.

      4. “this time, we’ll see Kwisatz Haderach level pants-shitting. I’m talking about a shit-slide that will cover this entire country. A raging shit-firestorm. A shitnami tidal wave that’ll engulf and extinguish their progressive shit-flames for years. And with any luck, the SJWs and the socialists will drown in the undershit of that wave.
        I’m talking pants-shitting shit-waves of biblical proportions.”

        You sir have talent.

        1. Most of the credit should go to Mr. Lahey.

        2. it *was* extravagant

      5. Call mr. Hankey. Dude can make shit happen.

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  46. “Biden is strongly considering former Deputy Attorney General Sally Yates for attorney general,” reports Tana Geneva for Reason. It’s not a good sign for criminal justice reform.

    Biden getting the nomination is not a good sign for criminal justice reform.

    1. Biden Harris getting the nomination is not a good sign for criminal justice reform.

      Again, I’m half-tempted to start vandalizing the campaign signs to reflect this.

    2. If your belief is that there are systemic issues that result in racially unfair prosecution, you’d be hard pressed to come up with a worse ticket than Biden/Harris.

      You have someone who spent his entire career building and participating in the very system you hate, and his running mate literally made a career off of the unjust prosecution her running mate codified into Federal law.

      1. ^ This.

        Biden and Harris ARE the systemic racism. It’s unbelievable that a bunch of BLM-sympathetic liberals are rooting for Biden.

        The biggest irony of our time, politically speaking, is that Trump is hands down, not even close, the better candidate if you believe in and are concerned about systemic racism.

        1. Lefties are racist in general. They wont admit it but their policies and desired wish list consist of racist agenda items.

          Affirmative action is literally policy that non-whites are too dumb and too untalented to get jobs/school seat without help from Elite Lefties.

          1. And if you are unsure which racists control the Democrat Party, just look as to why Biden was VP under the token Black man Obama and Biden is the Presidential candidate over Harris.

        2. I repeatedly point this out to my friends, and they agree Biden is terrible, but…..that Orange Man…..

        3. “The biggest irony of our time, politically speaking, is that Trump is hands down, not even close, the better candidate if you believe in and are concerned about systemic racism.”

          Now point this out to the staff, here. I trust you’ve read their article stating how they’ll vote, this time around?

          Hilarious, but I like black comedy.

  47. So I’ve seen this bit of the reporter on the scene showing nobody there at a Biden/Harris event.

    I held off on commenting on this because I have to wonder if it isn’t a fake, either a full-blown 4chan troll of a fictitious news report or some shit where the reporter is at the wrong site and falsely reporting the news. Because, holy hell, if it’s true that Biden and Harris can’t even get one single supporter to show up to welcome them to Tempe, regardless of whether or not they had an event scheduled, it means that Biden has absolutely no support at all.

    Which means the polls are all bullshit and the media all know they’re all bullshit and Trump is going to sweep all 50 states, including California and New York, and Biden is going to be lucky to finish fourth in the presidential election.

    And the media know this. They aren’t just laughably wrong about the polls, they’re actively lying their asses off about the polls. That’s not laughable, that’s treasonous. I swear to God, if Trump winds up winning this election in a Nixonesque landslide, we need to be hanging a shitload of “journalists”. They’re not reporting the news, they’re manufacturing a narrative and it’s an anti-American narrative.

    1. The polls are narrative cover for massive fraud

    2. Holy shit, that was in Tempe? ASU is right there, and they couldn’t even get one of the commie professors at the Cronkite School of Journalism to show up?

      Low energy!

    3. I swear to God, if Trump winds up winning this election in a Nixonesque landslide, we need to be hanging a shitload of “journalists”.

      My understanding is that a good portion will probably hang themselves.

      1. hopefully they just emigrate to Canada

        1. Cuba; their lying assess would fit right in there.

    4. A news report gaining significant attention online shows KSAZ-TV reporter Nicole Garcia describing a Biden/Harris campaign stop last week in which not a single person was in sight.

      “Not a lot of fanfare out here,” Garcia reported. “There’s really not much to see. I’ll step out of the way, but it’s kinda boring out here. So, it’s not your typical presidential campaign event; we don’t see people rallying outside, we don’t see signs or really much of what’s going on.”

      During Garcia’s report, her cameraman panned behind her, showing not a soul in sight other than a lone police car.

    5. That’s exactly why they’re going on and on about “no result for weeks after election night”. They expect the election results to be bad for them, so they’re getting ahead of the news and trying to plant the narrative that the results can’t be trusted.

      1. Nothing like the Big Lie. It is expected that more Democrats will vote by mail, and it isn’t Trump and his propagandists who are spreading a narrative that the election results cannot be trusted.

    6. That tweet from October 11th is rather content-Free. The Biden campaign was in Arizona on October 8th:

      https://www.azcentral.com/story/news/politics/elections/2020/10/08/joe-biden-presidential-campaign-kamala-harris-arizona-visit/5917484002/

    7. This should be a big deal. Wow! I live in AZ. Been saying for quite some time, I’m NOT seeing huge support or excitement for Harris/Biden. No signs in yards and only a few bumper stickers. I would take any polls showing Harris/Biden leading in AZ with a huge grain of salt.

  48. So it’s the Republicans behind the fake ballot drop boxes. I see. Whats the explanation here? The 2016 law don’t cut if you don’t get signatures authorizing you to deliver someone else’s ballot.

    For a party that claims to have the moral highground, why the deception? For a party that repeatedly warns us about voter fraud, why the ballot harvesting?

    This stinks more than my ass after a weekend chili binge.

    1. Burns, too.

    2. So it’s the Republicans behind the fake ballot drop boxes. I see.

      Don’t fall for the fake news, there were no fake ballot drop boxes. Because, I mean, that would be some sort of election fraud and we all know election fraud is just a myth.

      1. Yup. The MSM has to cover this story but in the same breath have to say that voter fraud does not exist.

      2. Nobody has said that there isn’t some election fraud, but nice deflection, anyway.

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  50. Lindsey “You can use my words against me” Graham is chair of the judiciary committee. Even though I hate that inbred hick I don’t want him to die, so Mike Lee should stay away from the senate.
    I really hope he dies. Mike Lee is insane and it shows how goddamn dangerous Mormons are that they elected him. He thinks the solution to climate change is to procreate more. Proof that mormons want to take over the world. They must be stopped.

    I’m against bigotry except bigotry toward mormons. Mormons are bigoted against nom-mormons, so I’d say I’m less bigoted than Mormons. It’s anecdotal, but I never heard so many anti-Semitic and homophobic slurs as I did in Utah. They really didn’t like the Jews and the gays there. No one is forcing Mormons to believe a ridiculous book written by a pedo con artist. They’re choosing to belong to such a stupid, evil religion. They should be ridiculed for believing such nonsense. They harrass people by knocking on doors to try and find people dumb enough to join their stupid church. They should be harrassed. They breed like rabbits an send missionaries all over in order to get as many people to join as possible so they can get political power. If given the opportunity they will restrict alcohol, tobacco, coffee, abortions, condoms and contraceptives, and they will expand the war on drugs. It’s funny to see “libertarians” defending them, because they’re not libertarian.

    I’m a patriot for trying to expose these bastards, and everyone on here is too stupid to see what’s happening.

    Fuck Mormons and fuck the people who stick up for them. Mormons are scumbags.

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