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Grand Jury Charges 1 Louisville Police Officer Involved in Breonna Taylor Shooting With 'Wanton Endangerment'

The charges are not for killing Taylor, but rather endangering her neighbors with wild shots.

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A grand jury in Louisville, Kentucky returned three criminal charges against one of the police officers involved in the botched March 2020 drug raid that killed 26-year-old Breonna Taylor.

Six months after Taylor's death, the grand jury declined to charge two of the Louisville Metro Police Department (LMPD) officers involved in the deadly raid but indicted former LMPD Detective Brett Hankison on three counts of first-degree wanton endangerment. The charges are not directly related to Taylor's death, but rather for endangering her neighbors with wild shots.

"According to Kentucky law, the use of force[…] was justified to protect themselves," Republican Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron said at a press conference announcing the charges. "This justification bars us from pursuing criminal charges in Ms. Breonna Taylor's death."

Taylor's killing, along with the killing of George Floyd by Minneapolis police, fueled a summer of massive demonstrations, nationwide demands for police reform, and violent unrest in major cities around the U.S.

In a series of tweets, Benjamin Crump, a civil rights attorney representing Taylor's family, said the failure to indict any of the officers on charges directly related to Taylor's murder was "outrageous and offensive."

Likewise, Carl Takei, senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a statement that the grand jury's decision "is the manifestation of what the millions of people who have taken to the streets to protest police violence already know: Modern policing and our criminal legal system are rotten to the core."

Lawyers for Taylor's family say she was asleep in bed with her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker, on the night of March 13, when LMPD officers serving a no-knock narcotics warrant broke down their door with a battering ram. Walker, a registered gun owner, shot at the officers believing it was a home invasion, hitting one officer in the leg. The officers fired back and hit Taylor eight times, killing her. No drugs were found.

Last week the city of Louisville, Kentucky, approved a $12 million payout to settle a civil lawsuit filed by Taylor's family.

Louisville also moved to fire Hankinson in June. In a termination letter, acting Police Chief Robert Schroeder wrote that Det. Hankison, one of the three officers involved in the fatal March raid, "displayed an extreme indifference to the value of human life" and violated the department's deadly force policy when he "blindly fired 10 rounds" into Taylor's apartment. 

"In fact the 10 rounds you fired were into a patio door and window which were covered with material that completely prevented you from verifying any person as an immediate threat or more importantly any innocent persons present," Schroeder wrote. "You further failed to be cognizant of the direction in which your firearm was discharged. Some of the rounds you fired actually traveled into the apartment next to Ms. Taylor's endangering the three lives in that apartment."

The Louisville Metro Council has also banned no-knock raids in legislation named after Taylor. The FBI is currently investigating Taylor's death.

Reason's Jacob Sullum wrote this June that the reckless raid once again showed the moral bankruptcy and fatal consequences of the drug war: "The problem is the attempt to forcibly prevent Americans from consuming arbitrarily proscribed intoxicants, which is fundamentally immoral because it sanctions violence as a response to peaceful conduct that violates no one's rights. That problem cannot be solved by tinkering at the edges of drug prohibition."

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  1. Let the riots begin!

    1. See below. They loaded up the Uhaul with bricks and firebombs.

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        1. No it’s not. Watch the video.

          1. WTF are you going on about? There will be bricks and there will be fires, but there are neither in that video. Someone does toss out a case of water bottles…

    2. Let it get dark first. Fire isn’t as impressive during the day.

    3. From information provided by this article The police department and grand jury’s actions were done to appease the irrational and false paranoia from the black community and their wannabe black/white people. The department and jury are cowards. What person knows what they will do when someone is shooting at them. The Chief who fired the detective is what he has accused the detective. A person of low moral character whose actions show a depraved indifference to a human beings life.

      1. Cops are supposed to be trained to handle their firearms.
        Know your target. Know what’s behind your target. Don’t fire rounds indiscriminately, putting civilians at risk.

        The no-knock raids for distributing herbs should be banned. They haven’t been yet, so cops who participate in them may have legal cover for now, but they are still responsible for acting recklessly.

        1. Agreed.
          Now do protest organizers.

        2. Its not clear what police are trained to do. You are making assumptions.
          In my county, cop shot and killed an unarmed girl, accidentally, with a shotgun. Turns out, once a year the police are tested with handgun in a closed pistol range. That’s it. They were never trained on a shotgun (cop was convicted anyway)
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/1991/07/30/montgomery-officer-charged-in-killing/26fada5a-d7b8-4c4f-a8bd-2fcbd6d88cfa/

    4. That’s facile, when police shoot a young woman with 10 rounds, and ooops is all the police can say after. I heard that the sole charge filed was for hitting a white person in the next building. How exactly is that reckless endangerment but killing a black person isn’t? if this were one case, it would be different, but it’s not. It’s a hundred cases of incompetent police discharging their weapons for no reason, or at the wrong person. People end up DEAD.

      1. “I heard that the sole charge filed was for hitting a white person in the next building”

        You heard wrong

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  2. If Brett Hankison’s behavior was wanton endangerment to people in neighboring apartments, then it should have been wanton endangerment in Breonna Taylor’s apartment too.

    Someone is forgetting the Drug War Exception to any and all laws governing LEO conduct. Anyone who is believed, reasonably or not, by police to be in some – ANY – way connected with illegal or quasi-legal drugs, or found retroactively to have drugs in proximity to the event, is fair game for any police conduct.

    1. Or living with someone whose first move at hearing a knock on the door is to shoot at the entry team. The boyfriend admitted hearing the knock on a jail telephone call.

      I dunno whether the cops actually announced or not. My guess is they did, given they had a no-knock warrant, that they changed on scene to knock and announce, because of their assessment the threat didn’t warrant a no-knock. Whoops.

      You want to fire them all for being dumb enough to do a raid that way, in plainclothes, with, to put it nicely, ambiguity about whether they alerted the residents and gave them an opportunity to comply: Be my guest.

      And wanton endangerment sounds fitting for an idiot who thinks Cyrus from Archer is who should be emulated when firing a weapon. Yeah, mag dump at the house. Good call.

      The gnashing of teeth and rending of garments over all of this is ridiculous. Go read the Courier-Journal’s coverage of this case. They’re hardly pro-cop. Riot over Atatiana Johnson being killed in her home by the Fort Worth Police, if you need someone to riot over. Taylor is slightly more innocent than Saint Floyd.

        1. Damn it! It’s been awhile since the Outlaw Country! season, which is where I tapped out.

          Is the latest season any good?

      1. They knocked – and then immediately kicked the door in.

        That’s not what ‘knock and announce’ means.

        1. Actually that’s exactly what police mean by it, which is why it’s BS. Police expect everyone they encounter to be able to comprehend immediately what’s going on and act rationally while also using tactics explicitly designed to disorient and claiming that they themselves cannot be held accountable for “split-second decisions.”

        2. I’ve always said that if I was a home invader, first thing I would do coming through your door is scream, “POLICE!”

          The government can always legalize its agents entering a home in the middle of the night and introducing violence where none exists. Doesn’t make it not a violation of individual rights. And at some point individuals are accountable, even if doing so is considered systemically acceptable.

          1. Lots of them do, Fist.

            Which is why it is imperative that police change their ways so as to make it as easy as possible for people to recognize they’re dealing with cops, and not some yahoo in multicam with a battering ram.

      2. Taylor is slightly more innocent than Saint Floyd.

        Except she hadn’t committed any crime, and they found no drugs, scales, bundles of money, or any other indication of illegal activity. Pretty sure that just makes her plain ol’ innocent.
        You should quit fondling little kids and actually think.

        1. Go read the Courier-Journal’s articles on this. They cite surveillance, phone calls, video evidence. Grudgingly, if you read between the lines of their journalism.

          Taylor was in this up to her eyeballs. That the search warrant didn’t find anything, is not unusual. Especially when later jail calls involving one of her boyfriends indicated they were aware of some surveillance. Doesn’t mean she deserved to die, doesn’t mean the cops didn’t screw the pooch with how they decided to conduct the warrant service, but it does mean that, yet again, the BLM movement is trying to canonize someone that doesn’t deserve it.

      3. It was reported that the warrant was reduced to a knock and announce. The police themselves said they knocked and announced and only when they didn’t get a response did they break the door down.
        The basis of the warrant however seems to be in question. They claimed a criminal suspect was receiving suspicious mail, but the postmaster general said they were asked to monitor the mail/packages and nothing was found (no further suspicion).
        The bottom line, the police control the timing of the raid, the underlying reasons for the raid, and the manpower used on the raid. When the raid goes south, they suddenly say “oh, not our fault”.
        Sorry, it is exactly their fault. The same DA’s office indicts people all the time for ‘resisting arrest without violence” and other BS charges, but for some reason, couldn’t pull it off this time. Not even a ticket for illegal parking.

        Ham Sandwich.

    2. Oh, I feel so much better.

  3. Meanwhile

    Rioters in Louisville had a U-Haul on standby loaded up with supplies, and immediately geared up as soon as the Breonna Taylor decision was announced.

    https://twitter.com/dhookstead/status/1308833236638937092?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1308833236638937092%7Ctwgr%5Eshare_3&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fpjmedia.com%2Finstapundit%2F

    There it is on film. This is just an insurrection. BLM and Antifa are criminal organizations.

    1. It’s a color revolution.
      My only question is how much of our intel agencies are involved.
      If Wray isn’t directly involved, he’s at the very least actively covering up.

      1. This is my thinking as well.

        Antifa has been around a few years. If the FBI hasn’t infiltrated Antifa and BLM by now, they are incompetent. If they have, they are coordinating on behalf of a Marxist insurrection that is taking its orders directly from the DNC.

        Given what we now know about Russiagate, my money is on the FBI the DNC and the Police Unions being an active party to a Marxist revolution and the need for Trump to put them down with Extreme Prejudice.

        While he’s at it, the IRS and DHS should be prime targets as well.

        Drain the swamp.

        1. Do you know any “antifa” protesters? They’re as organized as a kindle of kittens.

          And Marxist revolution? I didn’t believe that people like you really existed. You realize that the magazine is titled “Reason'”, right?

          1. I heard you’re antifa.
            Since that’s the standard you live by, you’re a legitimate target for any citizen

    2. Large annoying signs are too be considered insurrection now? Someone needs to tell that to some Trump supporting neighbors of mine; there sign is twice as big as that one but in fairness significantly less annoying.

    3. All I saw was backpacks and big signs. Point me to an exact time and tell me what exactly to look for.

    4. Wow, some sloppily painted signs stored in a UHaul. What evil mastermind could possibly be behind such a sophisticated scheme?

    5. It’s a protest John. You’d like the US federal government to treat them as insurrectionists, but that’s because you’re a sadistic fascist.

      1. Welp, the protesters are chanting “burn it down,” and white neighborhoods are gearing up. There’s a good chance .gov won’t even get the chance if they start wilding out in the suburbs, although Fort Campbell is right down the road and can bring some serious firepower to bear.

        1. Aw, looks like you’re spoiling for a fight. “White neighborhoods are gearing up”? I hope they’re better trained than the two clowns in St. Louis, who almost shot each other.

    6. Oh, gee. What on earth could they be upset about?

  4. This is good. The grand jury didn’t over reach. They stuck with charges that can be proven beyond a reasonable doubt. Instead of the proggi retard DAs that over charge and by default let the cops go

  5. No surprise AG called a state of emergency considering a brazen act of criminality is going to go unpunished.

    Whole thing has stunk from day one and this is the denouement? Pathetic.

    1. You have the intellectual capacity of a flea

      1. Nice rebuttal. Convincing. Compelling. Full of falsifiable assertions, detailed citations.

  6. Why do reporters continue to state that Taylor and her boyfriend were asleep in their bed when the door was knocked down by police? Both were at the door. The boyfriend actually fired first. This article continues to push a false narrative that will only inflame the situation.

    1. Not to doubt we’re being lied to, but do you have a cite?

      1. Because the officers did not shoot first — it was the young woman’s boyfriend who opened fire; he has said he mistook the police for intruders — many legal experts had thought it unlikely the officers would be indicted in her death.

        https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/breonna-taylor-live-updates-officer-charged-with-wanton-endangerment/ar-BB19lVi6?ocid=msedgntp

        1. Are you saying a homeowner has an obligation to wait for unidentified intruders to shoot first before he can defend himself?

          If what he’s saying is true, that he didn’t know they were police, he had every right to shoot first.

          1. This.

            It’s not the individual officers at fault. It’s the policy. Punishing the officers for following established guidelines is the wrong way to deal with the core of the problem.

            But no one wants to deal with the core of the problem because the bottom line is that while the policy may well have racially disparate outcomes, it’s not a racist policy on its face. Since they can’t cry racism, they ignore it, or address it from the wrong angle, screaming “RACIST!” when that’s not the inherent problem with this particular policy at all.

            The problem is the policy of cops busting down your door in the middle of the night (announced or not), not the individual cops following policy that’s been signed off by a judge, and not because it affects blacks more disproportionately than non-blacks.

            1. I’ll agree. We need better cops and we need to lose the stupid policies.

            2. Nobody dealing with the policy after years and years of it consistently being shown to result in needless deaths are why people have to take to the street in protests. This is not a one off case, this is yet one more case of hundreds.

          2. They agree he had every right to shoot first. They also agree that the police had every right to kill anyone in the apartment once there were shots fired.

            The issue is that the judge who granted the warrant is immune from prosecution. IMO he should hang.

            It’s the immunity of the judge and the politicians that is root cause here. Such a situation is specifically enumerated in the Declaration of Independence as tyranny and we are charged with the duty to end it.

            1. This!!!

              It’s a policy problem from top to bottom.

            2. Exactly I need to see judges before the firing squad before I have any interest in reducing the protections we give to the only people keeping order in this country.

            3. I agree but I do find some fault on the officer requesting a warrant for someone getting mail delivered to their house. Perhaps not criminally at fault but certainly enough to lose their badge over. The judge should hang though for signing off on that.

          3. KRS 503.055(3) actually states that self defense is not permitted if a peace officer identifies himself OR if the defendant reasonably knows he’s a police officer. Presumably a court would require that identification be reasonably understood to have been heard, but a strict reading seems like you could charge him even if he was deaf and couldn’t have heard such an announcement because it’s either.

            I think what saved Walker is that the neighbors all state they heard no identification, and this is an exemption not an affirmative defense. So they couldn’t prove beyond a reasonable doubt that the exemption applied, ergo yes, he had a right to shoot first.

            1. That’s an interesting law, just because someone on my porch yells “Police!” before kicking my door down does not give me reason to believe they’re actually police. They could be impersonating police.

              In the absence of direct knowledge that a violent crime is occurring behind that door, the police shouldn’t be kicking it down at all. I’d rather have a drug dealer go free than innocent people get killed because the police JUST HAD TO GET IN THERE RIGHT NOW DAMMIT. Kicking down doors at 2AM in a country full of gun owners is a recipe for disaster regardless of what was yelled before the door got kicked down, you better have a damned good reason for exposing everyone to that risk.

              1. “Kicking down doors at 2AM in a country full of gun owners is a recipe for disaster ”

                And in a country not full of gun owners, it’s a recipe for tyranny. The proliferation of such raids is precisely why I have no sympathy for the officers in a case like this, even if they were shot at first. The shot didn’t start the conflict, they did.

                1. No they didn’t. They merely did the dirty work. The conflict starts much higher up the chain than the door kickers.

                  As you note, proliferation of these raids is the culprit. It’s a policy problem. The cops in the raid are the useful idiots.

                  1. Fair. By “they” I meant the police as a whole, but obviously the door kickers are the only ones that seem to face any scrutiny at all.

                  2. Keep in mind, the policy is set by the police. It might be rubber stamped by politicians, but the need for the existence of no-knock warrants is police policy.
                    In this case, the warrant was apparently made a knock and announce. The police officers decided to execute the warrant after midnight with the presumption that the homeowners would be asleep – or basically not suspecting it. Surprise!
                    Sorry, if you intend to startle someone, you must expect the startle response…

                    Yes its bad policy and its reckless endangerment to execute the bad policy the way they did.

                  3. The policy is no doubt a big part of the problem. However, it is not solely to blame as the officers have choices and options. There is no requirement that the police choose to execute the warrant at 2am… there is no requirement that the police use a no knock warrant (in this case it was changed but it certainly seems that it was executed in the manner of a no knock warrant) Thus far I have heard nothing to indicate that the police felt that evidence was being destroyed due to the announcement of their presence, so they had no basis to forcibly enter the home.

                    Also since we know that the LMPD have body cams why did the police choose to not have them on? Why is their report so full of factual errors like Breonna Taylor had no injuries? The police were not required to release the Ambulance that was on scene prior to going into the house, yet they did.

                    It is the choices that police have and make that means that we can not solely excuse their actions and say it is bad law… bad laws and bad policies that allow officers to make these bad decisions need to be corrected. But the Police need to be held responsible when the decisions they make lead put innocent peoples lives directly on the line. Sadly NONE of that is happening. Police and lawmakers need to be held accountable.

                2. People in other countries, where only the police and outlaw have guns, commenting online think of this as a benefit. Their thinking is that bloodshed will occur only if bad guys are present on scene, and that the police can always apologize for breaking in and roughing you up a bit.

              2. “Kicking down doors at 2AM in a country full of gun owners is a recipe for disaster”
                yes, yes it is. but they rarely kick down doors at 2am where they expect the suspect is heavily armed.

                This happens more often then not in poorer areas, urban areas with widespread gun control, where there is a strong expectation of minimal resistance. And it also seems that when things go bad, its because the police are surprised and unprepared for resistance and overreact. It’s rare to see a 2am raid on a heavily armed suspect that doesn’t involved MRAPs, spotlights and a gaggle of swat in heavy armor. And even then, they don’t typically start by knocking down the door, but rather with loudspeakers from behind the armored car.

                1. There’s a Chapelle’s Show skit on this reversing how they deal with the white collar criminal and the crack dealer.
                  It’s hilarious.
                  But, thanks to the left, nothing like Chappelle’s Show could be made today.

  7. So spraying bullets throughout the apartment of the suspect and anyone staying with him at 3 in the morning after bashing in his door without announcing yourselves is okay, as long as you don’t point the Gatling gun at the neighborhing apartments?

    1. What is an acceptable response to being shot at?

      1. Go back in a time a minute and don’t kick down their door in the middle of the night.

        1. And if you can’t do that, at least aim at and hit the guy shooting at you, not the other resident(s) of the apartment.

          1. 1. Irrelevant, since that’s the job. They could certainly do it in better ways, but they are fully authorized and/or instructed to do it that way.
            2. Fair, and the officer is being charged for that… so not exactly “ok”

            1. “fully authorized and/or instructed to do it that way.”

              And we the people are fully authorized to protest that this cannot be allowed to stand.

          2. The issue is far more the policy of 2am raids, not the specific actions of the officers.

            Once the raid is ‘legal’, the officers had the legal right to be in that apartment and the legal right to defend themselves. It’s difficult to say whether Breonna was killed because of officer negligence, or just the confusion of the ‘fog of conflict’. the officers never were going to be charged. And I’m glad to see the one charge against the careless officer.

            It’s a sad situation and pointing the fingers at the police or racism utterly misses the point and distracts from constructive improvement.

            Ban 2am raids, ban no-knock raids. There is zero justification for LEOs to knock down doors in the middle of the night. There is zero justification for even knocking on doors in the middle of the night for things that can be handled in the light of day.

            1. It’s like Dr. Deming’s red bead experiment. The system and process is messed up. No matter what the employees do they fail.

      2. The officer outside the apartment wasn’t being shot at. He apparently did the “spray and pray” thing and fired wildly into the apartment through walls.
        Unlike TV, bullets don’t stop for things like cars (maybe the engine block), apartment walls etc.

        Part of basic hunter safety is to know the backdrop (in case you miss your target, or the bullet passes through) this is taught in all firearm safety courses – except apparently the ones they give to the police. The one cop charged apparently did his job so poorly he was fired.

    2. It was not a no-knock raid. They indicate they did announce their presence. Do we have any actual proof it was no-knock?

      1. https://twitter.com/redsteeze/status/1308845180490067968
        Was it reported anywhere prior to today that the warrant in the Taylor case was not no-knock? That seems like something easily traceable.

        1. Seemed a lot like “Hands Up, Don’t Shoot” which was accepted reality until it turned out to be utterly false.

          I’d like some hard evidence that it was no knock.

          1. The response from the Mayor was to ban no-knock raids in response to what happened.

            Maybe that’s throwing a bone to the rioters to get them to calm down, but it seems more likely that they realized they screwed something up and some policy changes were in order.

            1. The warrant was no-knock, but witness(es) says they announced.
              It’s a point of dispute we can’t draw any conclusions from at this point.

              1. No-knock or not, the policy of busting down doors in the middle of the night needs to largely end. That’s not to say that this tactic isn’t appropriate ever, but one could argue that in the vast majority of cases where it’s used, it’s used horribly. It’s almost certainly the case here.

                I know that if I were stirred awake in the middle of the night (if I heard a knock/announcement at all), it would take a little bit to gather myself and get to the door. Do I deserve to have my house invaded be cause the cops got tired of waiting? Does anyone?

                1. This. Knock or no-knock may be distinction without difference in this case. Knocking and waiting 10 seconds doesn’t give someone awoken from a dead slumber time to make an informed decision on how to react.

                  The whole thing is a pointless consequence of the drug war.

                2. Especially in this case because the cops only had she received mail for a drug dealing ex boyfriend. That in and of itself should never be enough to invade someone’s home over. Either you get the USPS to intercept the packages first to find drugs or you don’t persue a case against her.

                3. They break down doors because it means someone has to stay there until it is fixed, or to be sure the place will be looted after they take the resident to jail. The more harm they cause, the better they sleep at night.

          2. https://nypost.com/2020/09/23/kentucky-ag-breonna-taylor-cops-knocked-and-announced-themselves/

            So it wasn’t a no-knock.
            It was however executed at a time when the occupants could reasonably been asleep. The idea is to catch then un-aware, just like a no-knock. I guess it succeeded?

      2. We have proof it wasn’t. Witnesses heard the police knocking and identifying themselves, according to the AG.

        1. It was widely reported that witnesses said they did not hear them identify, but then again lies abound in cases like this. You have a source?

          1. Witness. Not witnesses. The NY Times reporter at the presser expressly asked about that. I am dubious about that 1.

        2. Witness, singular. I watched the AG’s presser, and the NYT reporterette asked for the number, and it was given as 1. That’s reflected in the Times’ article available on MSN, linked above. Do we think when the cops canvas like that they can’t find one “citizen” willing to testalie?

        3. 1 witness, acc to the special prosecutor during his presser, as reported by NY Times.

          I’m dubious about that witness.

      3. at this point, what difference does it make?

        LEOs shouldn’t be conducting any raids in the middle of the night for non-emergency enforcement actions. knock or non-knock is irrelevant, because every citizen has the natural right to defend their home.

  8. I’ll give the marxists this: at least they picked a relatively innocent martyr this time, as opposed to a rapist or someone actively fighting cops when killed.

    1. Annnnnnd Ben Crump just referred to a “1619 pandemic”

      He is an evil man.

      1. Yes when the settlement was announced, he had the gall to get up and essentially give a campaign speech for Kamala Harris- saying that she was the first national politician to care about this issue and that this has been happening since 1619.

        1. Is it concerning to anyone else that people keep referring to “racism” as if it’s a virus (“1619 pandemic”, “no vaccine for racism”) in light of the totalitarian measures recently taken in response to covid?

          This seems like a road to gulags/concentration camps.

          1. Is it concerning to anyone else that people keep referring to “racism” as if it’s a virus (“1619 pandemic”, “no vaccine for racism”) in light of the totalitarian measures recently taken in response to covid?

            Yes. That’s also how heresy was discussed in the late Middle Ages.

            What’s especially concerning is this new notion that normal people have insufficient expertise to judge what is and isn’t racist, and that we need “Racism Experts” for this.

            1. Right.

              And it’s not like this is Kirkland talking here – it’s “civil rights leader” and the Vice President candidate (at the DNC convention).
              We can’t make the mistake of thinking it can’t happen here – because we’re really close to it happening.

          2. We’ve also been getting told recently that “racism” is a “health crisis” so yeah, we’re in trouble.

    2. Relatively, being the keyword.
      What happened is awful and she obviously didn’t deserve to die, but she unfortunately is not the innocent bystander the media has made her out to be. The people she associated with were straight up thugs, and when you live that kind of life, bad shit inevitably happens.
      I’ll link to transcripts of calls made by the suspects involved in this case, they are very damning to the narrative.

      https://www.yumpu.com/en/document/read/63943132/breonna-taylor-summary-redacted1

      1. If by “associated with”, you mean ‘held their money for them and let them use her car to make his pickups and deliveries’, then yeah, she associated with drug dealers.

        1. Your right associates isn’t strong enough she was a straight up drug dealer.

          1. But the news always describes her as a paramedic…

            1. EMT…that got canned for not being able to fully account for her medications she signed out for. Drug diversion, IOW.

              1. But not even Fox News mentions that.
                Indeed, every outlet presents it in a way that implies she was STILL a paramedic/emt

        2. What exactly, from a libertarian perspective, is wrong about being associated with drug dealers?

          If she was involved in violence the police involvement makes sense. Loaning someone a car and holding money for them is not violent activity, why should the police be interested in her?

          I understand in our existing society why the police were interested in her, I don’t understand why libertarians think it’s a good idea.

          1. Personally I don’t think there’s anything wrong with associating w drug dealers. I don’t think any of this should have happened, it’s senseless violence and death for nothing.

          2. This. I think many, many people- including lily white people posting on this site- would be shocked to discover friends or family of theirs involved in dealing drugs.

            Coming from a white, middle class background, tons of people I know were involved in trafficking drugs. It wasn’t their sole job- usually it was just the way that they could get pot, or opiates periodically- they knew someone who knew someone, and would then sell to someone who knew them. But because these people were in suburban communities, they never had the chance of their house being raided in the middle of the night and if they were picked up with drugs, the charges would likely have been minor at best. It is only in these urban environments where the cops have adopted these warlike tactics.

            1. This is exactly 1/2 true.

              Are you really going to suggest that if you’re a white suburb dweller who sells you have nothing to fear from the cops?

              Lol

              I don’t think anyone could argue that blacks don’t disproportionately suffer cop thuggery. But that doesn’t mean it doesn’t happen to Joe around the corner. It definitely does.

              1. Depends on the weight. Were the recreational dealers we’re all thinking of, holding thousands of dollars of proceeds at a time? The guy I knew as the local pothead wasn’t, AFAIK.

                It doesn’t mean she needed to die. It does mean that her boyfriend she was living with, if he was aware of this business, should have been more aware than the reasonable ordinary person that the cops might kick in his door some day.

                We’re not in Libertopia. For now, dealing in thousands of dollars worth of drugs is against the law. Do I care morally about it? Not really. Do I think that getting shot by the cops is a foreseeable risk when you play that game? Yep.

                1. “It does mean that her boyfriend she was living with, if he was aware of this business, should have been more aware than the reasonable ordinary person that the cops might kick in his door some day.”

                  In fairness, it was almost equally possible (depending on weight/proceeds) that some thugs might kick in his door some day.
                  It happened to friends of mine in college, and they weren’t big time movers. Dudes pistol whipped them, tied them up, and left with like $5,000 and some laptops.
                  Much easier targets, sure, but not a risk much less likely than a police raid.

                  1. Drug dealers are easy targets, because what are they going to do, call the cops?

                    1. Pros:
                      1. Can’t call cops
                      2. Concentration of valuables
                      3. Well known within a certain network, with sometimes easy recon

                      Cons:
                      1. Possibly armed
                      2. Possibly connected

          3. Nothing’s wrong with being associated with drug dealers, or being drug dealers, but then you should be on notice that the cops may do you violence. Just like you’d blame someone who entered an area of vicious animals and got mauled or killed.

            1. Well at least your fully willing to admit police are vicious animals the maul and kill people.

          4. Well of course you wouldn’t see anything wrong with being associated with drug dealers given your drug habit, fat mike.

            Just kidding man, I agree.

            1. Dig the screen name by the way.

    3. So, after the police kill someone, they search the background and find something objectionable, and say, “see, the killing is justified because this person was (at one time) a bad person”
      That is the equivalent of “she deserved to be raped because back in college she was a stripper”
      victim blaming

      If the person is not an immediate threat, deadly force is not justified.
      There is a difference between “he’s reaching for a gun” and “he might be reaching for a gun”, he also “might be pulling up his pants” https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shooting_of_Daniel_Shaver

  9. Authoritarian clinger Daniel Cameron is, like so many Republicans, just another avid cop succor.

    1. Just say what you want to say.

      We all know what it is.

      1. Conservatives are bigot-appeasing and -embracing authoritarians who support and defend abusive policing, the drug war, and other outrages, especially when obsolete Whites get to see non-White citizens taking the hits.

        Fortunately, the clingers have lost the culture war and are being replaced at a desirable pace in modern, improving America.

        1. “Beep boop engage Boilerplate Comment #3 click whirrrrrrr.”

        2. Yes luckily the Green New Deal will build many new trains and rail-lines to take them to their “re-education camps”. And new taxes will make them (or their families) pay the $0.67 for their re-education round through the skull.

          That thought certainly explains at least half the boners for rail I’ve seen from the left.

  10. https://twitter.com/robbystarbuck/status/1308842072951214080

    Some White Democrats are threatening or inciting harassment of Kentucky AG Daniel Cameron because he’s a Black Republican and he found evidence that didn’t support murder charges. When Democrats say Black Lives Matter they only mean the ones that agree with them.

    1. When Democrats say Black Lives Matter they only mean the ones that agree with them are useful to them.

      So, really, nothing has changed from the Democrats of 150 years ago…

    2. They’re going to be really pissed at him if Trump nominates him to fill Thomas’s seat, should that happen in a hypothetical Trump 2nd Term.

  11. Her boyfriend fired first, which he had every right to do, but at the same time, the police were going to fire back.

    The people who should be on trial is the judge that signed the no knock warrant, and the person who asked for it in the first place.

    1. This is my take.

      Holding any of the individual officers responsible doesn’t do anything at all to address the problem, because the officers were acting within established policy guidelines.

      It’s the policy that needs changing, not the individuals enacting the policy.

      1. For sure the policy is bad. But the officers also have a professional obligation to provide a standard of care.

    2. For what? What law did the judge break?

      1. Facts not yet in evidence.

        There is definitely the chance he didn’t do his due diligence to make sure the warrant application was sound. He has a real job to do before he can decide to issue a no-knock warrant. If he simply rubber stamped it, it’s definitely possible he broke the law.

        1. Negative, Muzzled. Again, the Courier-Journal has been reporting on this in depth. As you’d imagine. There was more than enough evidence to get a search warrant for drugs and their proceeds.

          How they served it, OTOH, needs a lot of revamping. I reiterate John’s point from a month or so ago: make it absolutely, 100 percent unmistakable, that arresting officers are easily identifiable as police officers. And randomly blasting away in blind panic, as I suspect was the case with the indicted officer, is absolutely unacceptable. Even if, as rumor has it, the killing shot on Taylor was fired by her own boyfriend.

        2. According to a USA Today report, she took 12 minutes to consider the 5 warrants and sign them. That doesn’t sound like due diligence to me, especially considering how flimsy the assertion that she was dangerous was.

          That said, I doubt any statute exists which actually precludes judges from rubber-stamping warrants like this (the state kinda likes rubber stamping warrants anyways, ask the FISA courts), and she’ll have absolute immunity from lawsuits. The only consequence will be possible censure from the Judicial Conduct Commission, and likely not being re-elected when she’s up for it again in 2023.

          1. “According to a USA Today report, she took 12 minutes to consider the 5 warrants and sign them. That doesn’t sound like due diligence to me, especially considering how flimsy the assertion that she was dangerous was.”

            You should see—and I’d be curious too—how long the due diligence is for the magistrate at the other end of the phone during a “No Refusal” weekend.

            Careful examination of the evidence sounds like it’s gone by the wayside. My guess is that it’s a matter of checking elements off a checklist, with little consideration for weighing credibility.

        3. That is not the judge’s job. All the judge has to do is verify the police have sworn to enough evidence to justify the search.
          There supposedly was talk about packages and jail-house talk about money being stashed in the apartment. Not sure if that last part made it into the warrant.

      2. Title 18 section 241 of the US Federal code for violations of the 4th and 14 amendments protecting due process.

        1. Good luck finding a judge who will apply that standard to another judge.

    3. What ‘right’ are you trying to claim that Taylor had to fire at the police?

      The police KNOCKED and identified themselves. Door opens. Taylor fires at police. What ‘right’ are you referring to?

      1. The door didn’t “open”, it was smashed open by the police once it wasn’t opened quickly enough for their liking (if they gave any real time at all).

        Every homeowner has the right to protect his home. KY is a castle doctrine state.

        And “Open up, police!” does absolutely nothing to prove that it 1) is the police, or 2) that they are there legally. Especially since it’s the middle of the night, and they’re busting down the door.

      2. You know that people impersonate cops to rob drug dealers, right?

        1. Not just to steal. See also: Salvatore Maranzano.

      3. “Door opens. Taylor fires at police.”

        God damn, this is why I hate the internet. Go learn a little bit about what happened. Taylor wan’t even the shooter.

    4. Someone on Twitter commented that “castle doctrine and no knock raids can’t coexist”.

      The cops had a no knock warrant. They apparently changed their mind and announced themselves. Some witnesses dispute this.

      Either way, they had a warrant to enter the premises. I assume the judge who signed off on the no knock warrant believed the suspect was a drug dealer and did not want him to dispose of evidence as the cops entered the house (that being the point of no knock raids) They had no idea Taylor was even in the house. “Shot dead while sleeping as a black person” is total fabrication.

      Of course there should be a debate on the drug wars and no knock raids, but they’re separate issues. Again the question is, what happens to a society as it’s increasingly taken over by cultists who eschew reason in favor of their cause? Who acts on emotion rather than facts?

    5. Yep. Taylor was dead long before the cops arrived. The higher ups should be the ones on trial here.

      You can’t just shrug your shoulders and say “Shit happens”.

  12. Carl Takei, senior staff attorney with the American Civil Liberties Union, said in a statement that the grand jury’s decision “is the manifestation of what the millions of people who have taken to the streets to protest police violence already know: Modern policing and our criminal legal system are rotten to the core.

    The ACLU can all fuck off and die. This is an officer of the court engaged in hyperbolic incitement to riot. He should be fired. He should also be disbarred.

    This is coming from someone (me) who believes the investigators were criminally negligent in their research and misrepresented facts in the warrant, the judge who signed it was neglectful in rubber stamping it and that the officers who served it behaved in a stupid and cowardly manner.

    1. In other words, Chucky agrees with the ACLU’s position, but the ACLU’s lawyer triggered poor Chucky here, so time to disbar the ACLU dude.

      1. You have used that word ‘triggered’ in reference to me before, but I am not sure you know what it means. I certainly don’t agree with ACLU’s position, which seems to be ‘FUCK THA POLICE’.

        The ACLU has abandoned the 2A, most of the 1A and now dispute the 4A. They deserve little but scorn at this point. Modern policing and our criminal legal system are rotten to the core is an inflammatory statement and certainly not appropriate for someone who makes their living in that very system. When lawyers accuse the courts of corruption and advocate for lawlessness, disbarment is the appropriate recourse.

        Now, go get the cookies your mom left at the top of the stairs and retreat into your cocoon of safety.

  13. I see, he should be charged with murder, and then if that doesn’t stick because the jury has a reasonable doubt, they will just burn shit down until they get someone.

    Fuck blmantifa and their marxist shithole ideas.

  14. 1. The police have a no-knock warrant.

    2. The police go to the address and KNOCK on the door. Taylor testified to that.

    3. The door is opened and Taylor shoots at the police.

    4. The police return fire.

    Get it?!?! Is this too complicated to understand?

    1. Can you quit with the “the door is opened” shit?

      It was busted down by the police when the door wasn’t opened in the amount of time that suited the cops.

      1. Which was under 3 seconds at best.

        1. Then your issue is with the Supreme Court. But you ain’t gonna fuck with them are you baby bitch. Soros ain’t got your back on that one.

      2. Nuh uh! It was magic! Peaceful law magic! No way having your door “opened” like that could confuse or disorient you, in fact it proves that it was the police! Only they open doors to quietly and peacefully!

    2. Is this too complicated to understand?

      You certainly seem to be struggling.
      1. The person listed on the warrant wasn’t even in the state.
      2. Taylor is dead and didn’t testify to anything. Officers entered using a battering ram (they certainly didn’t wait for the door to be answered).
      3. Her boyfriend, Kenneth Walker fired at officers as they entered the apartment.
      4. Police returned fire, hitting Taylor 8 times, also shooting out through the patio door and shooting into adjacent apartments. One officer was hit in the leg, but it is contested whose shot actually hit the officer.

      Considering that all charges were dropped against Walker, his shooting at officers seems to have been determined to be self-defense. It is definitely complicated.

      1. The officer was hit with a 9mm round. The LEOs at the scene all had .40 caliber weapons.

        1. Then probably not friendly fire, unlike in Houston in the Tuttle home invasion. Maybe the neighbors were firing back through the walls?

    3. “‘Get it?!?! Is this too complicated to understand?”

      If you had just bothered to read the damn article you’d understand how many things you got wrong. Instead you spent that time posting incorrect information AGAIN and AGAIN, each time revealing to the world that people like YOU are what’s wrong with the internet.

      Try putting away your outrage for the 2 minutes it takes to educate yourself before making yourself look like a fool next time. Jeez.

    4. Are you saying that the victim testified to their knocking? When she was dead? Or another Taylor?

      1. Perhaps she was interviewed from beyond the grave using a soothsayer or via the Psychic Friends Network.

    5. 1. According to the AG, they did not have a no-knock warrant. They decided to come in after midnight in hopes of catching the occupants asleep – just like a no-knock.
      2. Its in dispute what they did before they broke the door down. Taylor, at best, was asleep when the raid started. Taylor didn’t testify, she was DEAD! One witness said they announced (big deal, would it be the first time someone impersonated the police?).
      3. The door is broken down (by pictures, it was a steel door, pretty much smashed).https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/30/us/breonna-taylor-police-killing.html
      4. No, the police don’t have the right to open fire just because they hear what they think is a gunshot.

      Apparently, when FBI puts a Trumpian under surveillance, all kinds of scrutiny on the warrant – left the fact out that the person in the past was a informant. But when the police get a search warrant for Taylor, suddenly the fact that there were no suspicious packages going to her apartment (according to the post master general) gets left out of the warrant – no big deal.

  15. “‘… attorney Sam Aguiar also spoke at the frustration that white neighbors got more justice than Taylor’s family. “Way to really rub it in. Three counts for the shots into the apartment of the white neighbors, but no counts for the shots into the apartment of the black neighbors upstairs above Breonna’s…”‘

    https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/amberjamieson/breonna-taylor-officer-charges-shooting-neighbor-apartments

    no comment

    1. Were there really shots fired into the ceiling? I have not seen that in any other reporting.

  16. everything in favor of the cops still falls short of justifying shooting the sleeping girl.

    1. She was standing when shot.

      1. I’ve read somewhere she was sleeping on the couch. Did she wake up and stood up?

        I was under the impression the cops stormed the house, entered a bedroom and shot up a woman sleeping on a bed, but apparently that’s not what happened.

        1. According to Walker, they were woken, and he accidentally put on her pants in the rush. They heard banging on the door and shouted “who is it?” and got no response.
          From the NY Times, only one witness heard the cops announce and it was only one time.
          From the Times article it is unclear at what time they shouted “police”, before or after they knocked the door down.

      2. everything in favor of the cops still falls short of justifying shooting the standing girl

      3. Maybe she was sleep walking!

  17. I didn’t know wantons were a protected food.

  18. Guess I’m spending the night in my bunker.

    1. especially if it’s in L’Ville.

    2. Did you finally get a date with Joe?

      1. Oh wait, I know this one, this is referring one of Trump’s lame self-owning political talking points, isn’t it??

        You’re so special and smart and cool what with your constant regurgitation of political campaign talking points.

        1. You’re sweet, Tony, but not my type.

            1. There’s really no way I could know that

    3. Just tell the rioters you defended them on the internet.

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  20. Despite the mobs that are calling for their heads, this was the correct decision. The cops were executing a legal “no knock” warrant and were met with gunfire (and one was wounded). They fired back in self-defense. The boyfriend, with good cause, thought he was defending himself from a home invasion.

    It was a tragedy and nothing more. Ms. Taylor was unfortunately caught in the crossfire. She was not killed in bed, as the media li frequently claims. She was hit in the hallway next to her boyfriend.

    Unfortunately for Ms Taylor, she associated with people who were involved in the drug trade, putting herself in the in this middle of this unfortunate situation.

    It’s not murder by any reasonable examination of the circumstances and the two cops were rightfully exonerated.

    As for the third cop, he was rightfully fired and will be prosecuted. You don’t randomly fire into windows at unidentified targets no matter what is happening. He put his fellow officers and occupants of that apartment and apparently a nearby apartment in danger. Apparently his spraying of bullets didn’t hit Ms. Taylor, otherwise he would have been charged with manslaughter at the very least.

    1. Sounds about right.

      But tomorrow’s black Floydday don’t you know.

      Baby mommas need new bling. Weezer goin looting.

  21. Despite the mobs that are calling for their heads, this was the correct decision. The cops were executing a legal “no knock” warrant and were met with gunfire (and one was wounded). They fired back in self-defense. The boyfriend, with good cause, thought he was defending himself from a home invasion.

    It was a tragedy and nothing more. Ms. Taylor was unfortunately caught in the crossfire. She was not killed in bed, as the media li frequently claims. She was hit in the hallway next to her boyfriend.

    Unfortunately for Ms Taylor, she associated with people who were involved in the drug trade, putting herself in the in the middle of this unfortunate situation.

    It’s not murder by any reasonable examination of the circumstances and the two cops were rightfully exonerated.

    As for the third cop, he was rightfully fired and will be prosecuted. You don’t randomly fire into windows at unidentified targets no matter what is happening. He put his fellow officers and occupants of that apartment and those of a nearby apartment in danger. Apparently his spraying of bullets didn’t hit Ms. Taylor, otherwise he would have been charged with manslaughter at the very least.

    We can debate idea the these “no knock” warrants. The cops claimed they did announce themselves in spite of the “no-knock” and at least one witness claimed he heard them. Other witnesses said they heard nothing, which is possible. In which case the boyfriend may not have heard it or in a moment of fear simply didn’t believe it.

  22. Well, at least 3 shot by blmantifa so far tonight

    1. Note how a jogger went off on the cops but NFAC, who has a primary presence in Louisville, is nowhere to be found. It’s just a few local blacks and Soros’s Color Revolution Faggot Brigade.

      1. Also, notice how this shit gets put down quick as a hiccup in Republican-run areas.

        The Democratic Party and the NeverTrumpers WANT this destruction to happen. It’s the mother of all astroturfs. They’re desperate for a Kent State moment, and you don’t get “spontaneous” protests popping off all at once unless that shit’s being funded and coordinated at higher levels. That Uhaul van rental John referenced above, and the supplies therein, didn’t pay for itself.

        They think this is what people want because they haven’t gone out en masse outside the major cities. But every time they do, they get pushed back on, and then they don’t return. So now they’re trying to pimp the QAnon storyline to try and explain why their Color Revolution isn’t gaining traction outside their deep blue havens. Colorado Public Radio hilariously had a story about how Parker, a southern suburb that’s about as normie as you can get, is somehow a massive haven of QAnon conspiracy-followers. It’s nothing more than a deflective cope-fest.

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  24. The article should be corrected. The warrant was originally issued as a no knock warrant, but was changed to a knock and announce warrant. It is a shame that the officers did not have body cams on, as it would be nice to know if when they executed the warrant they served it as if it was a no knock warrant, which it certainly seems was the case, or if their claim that they knocked and announced is correct.

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