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In April, She Was Jailed on a Probation Violation. By June, She Was Dead.

Holly Barlow-Austin suffered horrifying medical neglect at a Texarkana detention facility, according to video evidence in a new lawsuit.

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When 46-year-old Holly Barlow-Austin was detained in the Bi-State Justice Center jail on a probation violation on April 5, 2019, her vital signs were normal. Barlow-Austin was HIV-positive and suffered from bipolar disorder. Nevertheless, her white blood cell count and blood pressure were in healthy ranges when she was admitted to the jail, which sits on the border of Texas and Arkansas, a region known as Texarkana. The morning after she was incarcerated, her blood pressure was 118/73. She had no problematic vital signs.

Three days later, her husband went to the jail personally to hand over her medications, which were correctly labeled and showed up-to-date prescriptions. They included pills to manage HIV, depression, and bipolar disorder, as well as an antifungal. But jail staff initially withheld some medications and only gave her others sporadically, in a way that undermined their efficacy, according to a lawsuit filed Wednesday

Soon after, she became seriously ill, complaining of a headache and a lump on her neck. Her blood pressure clocked in at higher than usual and she was placed in a medical observation cell in the jail. 

Blood work performed by the medical staff at the jail on April 14 showed her white cell blood count at 87. The normal range in healthy adults is 500 to 1,500. Disturbing video footage shared with Reason by her family's lawyer shows Barlow-Austin splayed on the ground of her cell, clutching her head. On April 30, she told jail staff her legs were numb. She was taken to the jail medical office, where they gave her Tylenol before returning her to her cell. Jail staff brought her to an outside mental health provider, who relayed the information to jail staff that Barlow-Austin had been fainting. In response, according to the lawsuit, a nurse on staff said that Barlow-Austin "pretends to be weak" and "knows how to play the sickly role." 

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The Texarkana jail is operated by LaSalle Corrections, a private company that administers jails and immigration detention centers throughout the country. This week, the firm was in the news after a whistleblower claimed that another facility run by the company has failed to follow standard protocol to guard detainees and employees from the spread of COVID-19. "They're still not taking this seriously," nurse Dawn Wooten told The Intercept about the immigration detention facility in Georgia. "Enough was enough."

Wooten also claimed that the detention center performed a staggering number of hysterectomies on immigrant women, Vice reported. "When I met all these women who had had surgeries, I thought this was like an experimental concentration camp," a source told Vice. She said she'd met five women who'd received hysterectomies after being detained between October and December 2019. "It was like they're experimenting with their bodies," she said.

Previously LaSalle Corrections had been in the news after 20-year-old Morgan Angerbauer died of ketoacidosis, a condition which results from high blood sugar, while in custody at the Bi-State jail in 2016. She was denied medication to adequately manage her diabetes. Her pleas for help were ignored by staff despite the fact that she was unable to stand and was vomiting for hours, according to a lawsuit reported by the Texarkana Gazette. Lawyers for Angerbauer's family eventually reached a settlement in a wrongful death suit with LaSalle.

In 2015, 35-year-old Michael Sabbie, who suffered from diabetes, asthma, and hypertension, told guards at the Bi-State jail that he couldn't breathe. Guards reported him for "creating a disturbance" by "feining [sic] illness and difficulty breathing," HuffPost reported. Guards threw him on the ground and pepper-sprayed him. He was found dead the next morning. A federal magistrate judge found the facility guilty of extreme medical neglect. "Here, the evidence shows that at various times during his confinement, the security officers knew Mr. Sabbie faced obvious health risks," Judge Caroline Craven wrote. "She said there is sufficient evidence that several staffers 'knowingly disregarded Mr. Sabbie's complaints, thus acting with deliberate indifference to his serious medical needs.'" 

LaSalle did not immediately respond to requests for comment for this story.

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By May 2, 2019, Barlow-Austin's blood pressure had climbed to 160/90. Staff found that she had a urinary tract infection. She complained to jail staff about headaches, vomiting, and blurred vision. She reported fainting frequently. She was not taken to a hospital. 

By June, the lawsuit alleges, Barlow-Austin was blind as a result of her various undertreated conditions. Video shows her in distress, emaciated, flailing around on the floor of her jail cell, repeatedly soiling herself. Video shows a staff member setting a styrofoam cup of water in her cell on June 10, then falling back and holding their nose at the smell emanating from the cell. It was only the second cup of water she'd consumed in 16 hours, according to the complaint. In the video captured the same day, she appears to mouth "Help me" to two female inmates who'd been sent to her cell to clean it up. 

During this period, her husband and family were repeatedly told she didn't want to see them, when in fact she appeared to be unaware she had visitors and unable to communicate her desires.

On June 11, Barlow-Austin stopped moving. Two hours later, jail staff called 911. Her husband once again tried to visit her at the jail, on June 15, only to be told she was no longer there. It took days for him to figure out that she had finally been transferred to the hospital. 

On June 17, she was dead. Cause of death was listed as fungemia/sepsis due to fungus, cryptococcal meningitis, HIV/AIDS, and accelerated hypertension.

Barlow-Austin was in the Bi-State Justice Center jail in part because, according to her family, she had decided to get help after years of struggling with drug addiction. They say she had violated the terms of her probation for a misdemeanor by deactivating her ankle bracelet and traveling to a rehab facility in nearby Dallas, and that she was jailed upon her return home—hardly an offense that should be punishable by death. Since the jail had technically released her to a hospital prior to her death, there was no formal criminal investigation into the case.

Erik Heipt, a civil rights attorney who handles police and jail brutality cases, is litigating the case. He tells Reason that he's not easily disturbed. "I've handled many grotesque cases. I am not easily rattled," he says. But the negligence in this case got to him. "What happened to Holly Barlow-Austin was cruel and inhumane. It was beyond all bounds of human decency," Heipt says. "It was tantamount to torture. If a prisoner of war were treated this way, it would be a war crime."

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    1. *squints at photo*

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    2. Doing more for this issue than you are.

      1. It’s true, I gotta step up my destroying-the-nuclear-family game.

        1. Yet another bizarre anxiety. Do you think the scary blacks are out to force grandparents to take part in raising children or encourage divorces? Afraid that people might get subversive ideas like “it takes a village”?

          1. Well, the implication is that BLM only wants to destroy the nuclear family only for black people, so I can see why you wouldn’t be particularly concerned.

            1. Are they destroying the nuclear family in a similar way to how they’re destroying community wealth and opportunity by having the poor judgment to be born black?

              1. They refer to themselves as “comrade” on their webpage. That’s dog whistle communism right there. Sorry, Black Lives Matter, but Marxists enslave. Count me out.

                1. I kind of thought the communism part of their communism was the dog whistle.

                  1. It is, but they’ll just say some of the leaders randomly happen to be Marxists.

                    Apparently their webmaster also just happens to be Marxist.

                    Their political goals are so awesome they have to lie about it.

                    Another case of socialists taking what could be an actual accomplishment for humanity and ruining it with Marxist slavery bullshit.

                    1. Do they lie about their political goals? Destroying the nuclear family and the elimination of international borders are 100% Trotskyist goals. The leaders publicly say they’re “trained Marxists” so I don’t get the impression there’s much hiding anything here.

                    2. Maybe I’m wrong. I think the MSM isn’t doing a good job of covering that. But they seem to be downplaying it on the news.

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                2. I am exasperated by those leftists who flirt with Marxism too, but their intentions are good, and they’re hardly the fascistic death cult that actually holds the White House right now.

                  1. Slavery isn’t a good intention, and the 20th century has a word with you.

                    1. That’s why it’s silly, because the association exists even if it’s not relevant in reality. WW2 was fought among capitalist countries. When assigning political ideologies to events, there is plenty of horror to go around.

                      Obviously any current Marxists are not advocating for anything like an authoritarian death cult. I wish I could say the same for some current capitalists.

                    2. I’m sorry, but Stalin wasn’t a capitalist.

                    3. The Marxists of course being the mortal enemy of the Nazis. The more things change…, am I right?

                    4. I would encourage you to embrace a fact-based view of history. It may help you advocate for policies that don’t increase human suffering.

                      If Stalin is capitalist, then capitalism has no meaning, and he was an ally of the Nazis before the Nazis made him an enemy; Stalin didn’t decide he hated Nazis. The more things change, indeed.

                      I’m glad the new bunch of Marxists don’t want a death cult, but neither did the old bunch. Communists have killed millions of people by accident. Hell, they killed millions of people ostensibly trying to feed them.

                      BLM seems blissfully ignorant of all of these facts within living memory, but they sure do remember slavery from, oh, almost two centuries ago now. That’s kinda screwed up.

                    5. Characterizing BLM as Marxist is a disingenuous rhetorical tactic to dismiss the entire project. Shall we pretend otherwise?

                      Either Marxism is a serious part of this discussion or it’s not, and if it is then you need to treat it seriously and not as a conversation-stopping cudgel. The aims of Marxists have nothing to do with the atrocities of Stalinism. I wish I could say the same for Trumpers and Nazis.

                    6. It would be a harder characterization if they weren’t so Marxist. They should at least stop calling themselves “comrades.” After the 20th century, that’s dumb as hell. But then again, their grasp of history…

                      I’m sorry, but “Stalin was No True Marxist but Trump is a literal Hitler Nazi” is laughable to the point of parody. Poe’s law?

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          2. Or in your case, it takes a village idiot.

          3. You’re probably white aren’t you tony? Thank god for SJW’s like you, where else would we find such obedient useful idiots?

    3. Dude. White lives don’t matter. They even admit it!

      1. Successful advocacy requires focus. Save the spotted owls isn’t about you either. But you are totally free to advocate on behalf of your interests and those of neglected white people.

        1. Do you really think that the current spasm of BLM activism is going to be successful? And what is the standard for success?

          1. It’s already resulted in some reform, but I have no idea really. I would say there’s a high likelihood that the forces of evil will succeed in beating back the fight for black rights by demonizing and highlighting the 1% bad apples as they have always done.

            1. The arson and murders don’t help, that’s for sure.

              1. Doesn’t seem to bother anyone when rightwingers do it. Most of the people here don’t even realize that the vast majority of political violence in multiple generations has been the white rightwing kind.

                But bad PR is bad PR.

                1. Yeah, FDR was a right winger.

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                2. Oh I’m sure, no doubt.

                3. When is the last time a right wing mob burned large parts of a city?

                  1. When was the last time a leftist mob did that?

                    1. Again, sounds like Wednesday.

            2. “beating back the fight for black rights by demonizing and highlighting the 1% bad apples as they have always done.”

              Only 1% are “bad apples”? Hmm. Sounds like a made up statistic. Weird that 6% of the population commits 50% of homicides. But you’re saying that only 1% of that 6% are “bad apples”?

              1. The numbers are that way largely because of gang violence, which is a specific problem and a symptom of the underlying poverty of these communities, same as all these other symptoms you probably assume are their fault at a genetic level.

                Do you want to do anything about these problems you highlight, or do you simply want to highlight them in furtherance of some other agenda?

                1. Well, the welfare state was pretty effective in destroying the nuclear family… so maybe BLM is more successful than we thought?

                  1. You are obsessed. Is your solution to black poverty to ban divorce?

                    1. Transfer payments haven’t worked so well.

                    2. There is no such thing as a welfare program that only black people get.

                      But it’s possible that throwing the poor into even greater poverty will motivate them to get a college degree and a middle class job, or whatever patronizing psychobabble you’re endorsing.

                    3. That’s true: Black people aren’t the only ones who received transfer payments.

                      That is a thing you can say.

                    4. Is your solution to black poverty – or people of any color to keep buying more of it?

                      And no, there is no genetic component to poverty, though I’ve heard a lot of leftists say in so many words that black people can’t help themselves when it comes to crime… until you point out how racist that really is. Racism of low [or non-existent] expectations.

                      The problem with much of it is cultural, and that extends to a variety of cultures where poverty and single parenthood is not only expected but has now become the family and neighborhood tradition.

                      “Banning divorce” is your straw man, but nice try. It is true and universally accepted that single parenthood is the single greatest common denominator in poverty. Until that is acted upon at a cultural level [because you can’t legislate it], poverty will continue to grow. And BLM by their own words has an interest in destroying the nuclear family. As long as they can keep people poor, they keep them feeling like victims, and BLM keeps growing its power. BLM isn’t doing anyone any favors other than those seeking money and power.

                    5. Hell, with tax rates what they are, you can’t afford a family on a low middle class income unless you have two people working. How a single parent is ever supposed to make that work is beyond me.

                      And it’s not like they’re not getting transfer payments and food vouchers.

                    6. “The problem with much of it is cultural, and that extends to a variety of cultures where poverty and single parenthood is not only expected but has now become the family and neighborhood tradition.”

                      So, calling something a cultural trait and then in the next paragraph calling that same thing a social disease IS fucking racism.

                      But I agree that single parenthood and the other things are objectively negative social indicators. They are symptoms of poverty, not its causes, and the cure for poverty is more money.

                    7. Of the cure for poverty was money, we would have eradicated poverty a long time ago.

                    8. How do you define poverty? It must be a lack of money plus something. What’s the something?

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                2. “symptoms you probably assume are their fault at a genetic level.”

                  Fuck you.

            3. The entire movement has nothing to do with race – it’s a color revolution. How does Marxist boot taste?

    4. She’s white, so they won’t care. And nobody will chimp out to make the state stop killing people like her.

      But maybe we should.

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  1. Barlow-Austin was in the Bi-State Justice Center jail in part because,

    The fact that you went the whole article without mentioning how exactly she violated probation and then, in the penultimate paragraph, tell us part of the reason why she was arrested (as relayed by her family), I’m forced to go find out what the full reason is/what you omitted.

    1. Does it matter why she was there? Isn’t anyone in their custody due the same care regardless of why they are there?

      1. Does it matter why she was there?

        So if she didn’t violate her probation and the cops hauled her off anyway, you wouldn’t care?

        See below, not that Barlow-Austin did this, but she wouldn’t be the first inmate to shit the bed and near-death themselves through treatment centers, hospitals, and jail only to have the little bouncing ball land on ‘jail’. Doesn’t necessarily excuse mistreatment but could, and again I’m not specificaly implicating Barlow-Austin, indicate that the inmate was a rather active participant in their own death.

        More overarchingly, Reason has a rather empirical habit of describing a ‘armed youth shot while running at officer’ situation as ‘youth shot in back while fleeing’ and/or a ‘sexual assaulter shot by police for resisting arrest’ situation as ‘unarmed man breaking up fight shot in the back by officers’.

        1. indicate that the inmate was a rather active participant in their own death.

          Suicide by meningitis?

          1. Suicide by meningitis?

            Well she didn’t contract HIV from a tractor and it’s pretty clear she had fungal meningitis going in.

            Every day millions of Americans slowly commit suicide by diabetes. Doesn’t mean jails should mistreat people with diabetes but it doesn’t mean everyone who dies of diabetes while in jail is the fault of the jail.

            1. Morgan Angerbauer had *type 1* diabetes. THIS IS NOT SOMETHING YOU GET FROM A POOR DIET.

              People with type 1 MUST have insulin. The jail withheld it, which 100% guaranteed her death.

              1. Incidentally, in case you couldn’t tell, ignorant conflating of type 1 diabetes with the shit caused by the typical WalMartian’s diet fucking seriously pisses me off.

                1. Incidentally, I didn’t conflate them. You did.

              2. I wasn’t specifically referring to the Morgan Angerbauer case. I presumed that would’ve been clear by the fact that I indicated that millions of Americans were giving themselves diabetes every day.

                My mistake. However, you could stand to lighten up, Francis.

            2. Horse hockey. Whenever the state restrains someone so they can’t take care of their preexisting health issues, those state officials become 100% responsible for treating them. Regardless of why the state restrained that person.

              1. Whenever the state restrains someone so they can’t take care of their preexisting health issues, those state officials become 100% responsible for treating them.

                Just so we’re clear; you literally just said that once the state restrains someone that person loses all personal responsibility/agency regardless of why the state restrained that person.

                1. Her death is her own fault for not breaking out of jail to continue taking her medications.

                  /dumb.casual

                2. Just so we’re clear; you literally just said that once the state restrains someone that person loses all personal responsibility/agency regardless of why the state restrained that person.

                  Incidentally, that’s literally not what he said at all.

        2. No, I’m just saying that because she was there for any reason, they owed her appropriate care. She clearly wasn’t a healthy person and may well not have been long for the world in any case. But they knew that she was not well and clearly denied her appropriate care. That’s terrible no matter why she was there or what her health condition.

          1. Sure, but as I indicated below and, again I’m not saying Barlow-Austin did this, but she would hardly be the first person to make multiple trips, shitting the bed the whole way around the rehab, ER, jail roulette wheel.

            Alarm fatigue is a thing and The Boy Who Cried Wolf is a well known parable.

        3. You’re gonna be the next person to shit the bed, I think

    2. Goddamn I hate Reason these days.
      All their articles are pure, transparent progadanda.

      “But jail staff initially withheld some medications and only gave her others sporadically, in a way that undermined their efficacy…”

      In #FakeNews propaganda, always look for what they *leave out*, in this case specifics on how they supposedly “withheld some medications”, which is basis of their assertion of abuse.

      “Soon after, she became seriously ill”
      Post Hoc Ergo Propter Hoc is Reason’s goto fallacy for their #FakeNews police brutality stories.
      “A cop had a sandwich, *and then* the prisoner died.”

      ‘mouthing “Help me” before her death’

      June 10 – A *week* before her death, her mouth moves on a low res video. No way anyone could read her lips in that video. “Help me” is pure fabrication.
      June 11 – sent to hospital
      June 17 – dies in hospital
      #FakeNews

      https://barlowaustincase.wistia.com/medias/y8h6f1gtam

      1. Why are you even here, you cop-dick-sucking bitch? What the fuck makes you want to be here?

  2. I can’t imagine how difficult it must be to be a prison system medical worker where you would expect so much faking and malingering. Must be very difficult to discern who is truly ill.

    But if a HIV patient isn’t given their meds and it takes its course leading to immunocompromise and death, well I guess you’re farked.

    1. Not to mention that, maybe not for Barlow-Austion, but for plenty of others the question isn’t so much whether hypertension, fungemia/sepsis, and meningitis will catch up to them as whether it will catch up to them in a jail cell, at home, or in a back alley somewhere.

      1. You know what? It doesn’t fucking matter and it’s kind of sickening that you’re here justifying this bullshit by saying ‘well, she was gonna die anyway’.

        Doesn’t matter. She was in their custody, they have a fucking duty to do what is necessary to protect her.

        Don’t like that, don’t lock her in your cage.

        1. It doesn’t fucking matter and it’s kind of sickening that you’re here justifying this bullshit by saying ‘well, she was gonna die anyway’.

          Didn’t justify a thing. I’ve pretty explicitly said elsewhere in the discussion that many of my questions and hypotheses don’t justify the outcome. I don’t, and didn’t, disagree with the assessment that “if a HIV patient isn’t given their meds and it takes its course leading to immunocompromise and death, well I guess you’re farked” (assuming the “you’re” is the jail’s medical staff).

          Say you had a magic wand that could fix the situation, would you be so stupid as to wave the wand and restore life back to Barlow-Austin living with HIV, meningitis, and hypertension in jail but receiving treatment? Or would you wave the wand and prevent Barlow-Austin from ever contracting HIV (and meningitis) and ever being on probation in the first place?

          I think it’s more feasible/libertarian to prevent people from using illicit drugs in a dangerous manner, contracting, and dying of HIV than it is to let every felon who cuts off an ankle bracelet roam free. Maybe only slightly, and I may be wrong, but you seem even more fixated that your even more narrow (not necessarily a) solution is correct. That, despite the fact that neither one of us is going to change any outcome here, Barlow-Austin sitting at home with HIV and meningitis is the preferred outcome.

          1. Whatever man. Take your meds.

          2. It’s not rape, she wanted it.

        2. Spot on Agammamon.

          The prison must have had a PA or nurse and a doctor in charge. The doc might not have been there but had to be available at least by phone. I know how these things work.

          The guards had a duty to alert the medicals. They then had a duty to assess the patient and act appropriately.

          As I said below from what we know she was in distress, HIV, with severe headache and a white count almost non existent. She is in big trouble. Oh they were able to get a CBC. That is interesting. She may or may not not have a fever because she has no white cells.

          I do not know any more but that is enough. She needed transfer to the hospital now.

      2. It would be a lot easier to figure out if the jail had given her the medication as prescribed by a doctor that they had full knowledge of.

    2. But if a HIV patient isn’t given their meds and it takes its course leading to immunocompromise and death, well I guess you’re farked.

      Prison healthcare may not be great, but they generally provide essential meds to prisoners, including anti-HIV drugs.

      Reason isn’t giving us the whole story here.

      1. “Prison healthcare may not be great, but they generally provide essential meds to prisoners”

        There is significant evidence that they did not do so in this particular case.

        There is no reason that could possibly justify this.

        1. There is significant evidence that they did not do so in this particular case.

          There may be significant evidence, but you can’t conclude that from this shoddy, biased article.

      2. Ummm….you did read the part where the type 1 diabetes prisoner was denied insulin? That 100% guarantees death.

        Oh, and the fuckstain nurse gave the prisoner glucose without checking her blood sugar. That’s like adding a 6th bullet to a Russian Roulette game. (She got 6 months for *misdemeanor* homicide, when she should have been tried and convicted of depraved murder.)

        So at least in this prison system, they do have a problem providing “essential” meds. And re: your dig at “Reason”, since there is no Bad Orange Man in the story, I believe the reporting was accurate and complete.

        1. So at least in this prison system, they do have a problem providing “essential” meds.

          Medical errors harm about 40% of patients who enter regular hospitals. The fact that you can find instances of such errors in the prison medical system is neither surprising nor indicative of a problem beyond the normal problems with providing medical care to anyone.

          1. Oh, come on. The woman was documented as insulin-dependent, and they WITHHELD THE FUCKING MEDICINE. That was murder, not some fucking medical error.

            1. I see nothing in the article that claims (let alone shows) that the prison intentionally “withheld medicine” or that the woman was “documented insulin dependent”. So you are confabulating on top of an already shoddy article.

              1. Read the linked article.

                1. Linked article:

                  Unable to get a blood sugar reading, Johnson made the fatally incorrect decision to give Angerbauer glucose, or pure sugar, later telling authorities she surmised Angerbauer’s sugar level was low, not dangerously high. Licensed vocational nurses are not permitted to diagnose patients.

                  So, the nurse was incompetent, rather than deliberately withholding medication.

          2. If the story is anywhere close to what has been told here, it’s pretty clear they intentionally killed her. Maybe their plausible deniability will only make the settlement a few million, and the NDA will make sure nothing gets done.

      3. It does not take many missed doses of anti-retrovirals for efficacy to be compromised. Resistance to therapy can occur extremely quickly.

        But the whole thing about “white cell count” is just plain ignorant. the normal healthy range of WBCs is 5,000 to 10,000.

        The number range quoted – 500-1500 is probably reference to absolute neutrophil count (ANC) a measure more commonly associated with evaluating response to HIV medications. When ANC falls below 500 a person is deemed neutropenic and is a severe risk for infections.

        The commentary here sucks almost as bad as the journalism.

        1. Note: The closing sentence is not directed at the comment section.

          1. The ‘journalism’ here largely being nothing more than copy and paste from activist press releases.

        2. I won’t disagree, but comments here are largely from people with an opinion, not expertise or research… not really a problem or on the same level as the supposed writer of the article, which by nature of employment is considered to have actually researched the facts and presented them without too much bias. Comments and articles should not be held to the same standard.

          As such, I almost didn’t get past the citation from Vice. If this is where the author goes for facts, I tend to discount the veracity of everything else said.

          Additionally, just quoting Vice for a sensationalist line like “met a staggering number of women who had hysterectomies”, and then the number is 5??? That should have raised a lot of eyebrows without far more information. 5 women who had a common medical procedure isn’t “staggering” even if the total population is only 5. Questionable for sure, but staggering, no. And it’s completely irrelevant unless you know the entire population of the jail during that time, and for what purpose these illegals were in the country? That seems irrelevant to this author as well as the Vice author.

        3. It does not take many missed doses of anti-retrovirals for efficacy to be compromised.

          For someone whose viral load is low, it usually takes weeks for the viral load to go above 200 again and CD4 cells to drop. So, yes, it takes a lot of missed doses for the efficacy to be compromised.

          Furthermore, her husband didn’t seem too concerned about it since it took him three days to bring her her medication, according to the article.

          My guess is that she was careless with her treatment before getting arrested, was already quite sick, and this pushed her over the edge.

          The prison may or may not bear part of the responsibility; this article is so biased and useless that you really can’t draw any conclusions from it.

    3. I don’t think you can fake HIV, hypertension, urinary tract infections or meningitis all of which have very specific and measurable symptoms or have tests that can prove someone has them.

    4. You want to claim custody of another person’s life, you take all responsibility for whatever trouble is involved. And I’m pretty sure, neglecting them till they die, is a failure of that responsibility.

      Maybe people should reconsider being the employee of Wall Street investment groups that build and run prisons for profits.

      1. You want to claim custody of another person’s life, you take all responsibility for whatever trouble is involved.

        *All* responsibility? Does that mean I can profit from their labor as well? Asking for my orphan slave-owning friend.

      2. And I’m pretty sure, neglecting them till they die, is a failure of that responsibility.

        It is. Unfortunately, this article doesn’t provide any evidence that they did.

        You want to claim custody of another person’s life, you take all responsibility for whatever trouble is involved.

        Legally and morally, responsibility for prisoners is to avoid cruel and unusual punishment; this means providing essential medical care.

        Maybe people should reconsider being the employee of Wall Street investment groups that build and run prisons for profits.

        Private prison providers at least are subject to some liability laws, government-run facilities are completely exempt. The idea that having prisons run by the government results in better treatment is foolish.

        1. I’m really confused because I thought private jails and private policing was a libertarian thing. Is it not?

          1. I’m really confused because I thought private jails and private policing was a libertarian thing. Is it not?

            Providing government services through private subcontractors is not a “libertarian thing”.

            However, I was simply saying that between the two non-libertarian choices, namely government run prisons and prisons run by private government subcontractors, the latter generally have more incentives to keep prisoners alive and healthy.

    5. Bullshit it is not difficult at all.

      These contractors are making money hand over fist. They just don’t give a damn. The whole industry is just more pork. They have lobbies in DC. It is all corruption. That is why we have so many people in prisons and ICE detention centers.

      What do they care if they get sued? It is like a carnival booth handing out trinkets.

      And we keep paying for it and electing the same politicians over and over. Jeez we are suckers. We deserve it.

      1. These contractors are making money hand over fist. They just don’t give a damn.

        As opposed to the gentle, caring agents of the state? You know, the people accused of police brutality? The people who are protected by qualified immunity?

        1. These people are agents of the state, even if they are nominally employed by a private company.

          1. Echospinner claimed that “these contractors just don’t give a damn”. I’m pointing out that since they work for a private company that is potentially liable, they certainly care more than government employees.

            1. Cost of doing business. The medical contractors for example carry malpractice insurance. The employees have no personal liability. The big companies like this have liability insurance, lawyers and deep pockets. They expect to be sued.

              1. Plus (wink) they got friends at the capitol. And most of the time nobody cares much about hopeless, worthless, junkies. This time an advocacy group got involved.

              2. Cost of doing business.

                So it cuts into their profits. That’s still a bigger incentive than government employees have.

                The medical contractors for example carry malpractice insurance. The employees have no personal liability. The big companies like this have liability insurance, lawyers and deep pockets. They expect to be sued.

                And the more they get sued, the more their premiums go up.

                Government, in contrast, doesn’t even have that incentive.

          2. Not really. Companies that contract for things like food supply and medical services are generally independent subcontractors.

            I do agree that government employees are no better.

            What we really need is true criminal justice reform and end to qualified immunity. We have too many people incarcerated and the people in charge of them have no accountability.

            1. What we really need is true criminal justice reform and end to qualified immunity. We have too many people incarcerated and the people in charge of them have no accountability.

              No offense but we also need an objective way to deal with Karens and bleeding hearts. Jordan Peterson pointed out that ~10% of the population is so socially derelict that war machines looking for any warm body they can find are incapable of finding a use for them. Even if you think his numbers are off or he’s being harsh, that’s still a couple tens of millions of people who are outwardly irredeemable. There needs to be a way to recognize that if you put someone in charge of handling more than their share of the 5% for 40 hr. weeks, you can’t expect even the most virtuous and optimistic to be anything other than sociopathic themselves after some time.

              1. the 5%

                Er, the specific ~10% actually.

              2. Why does the US have more people in prison than any country in the world? Followed by the wonderful examples of China, Brazil and Russia. Something is not right here.

                We could start with decriminalization of drugs.

                I am not buying the 5% number. How many people have you known in your life. Do you really think 1:20 or 1:10 of them needed to be locked up for good?

                Sociopaths and the true psychopaths are real. They are not easy to detect.

                1. I am not buying the 5% number. How many people have you known in your life. Do you really think 1:20 or 1:10 of them needed to be locked up for good?

                  I knowingly enjoy living on the better half of that distribution and I’ve had playground scuffles with guys who turned out to be multiple murderers, helped guys who went to jail for shaking their kid to death and had friends who died of addiction that no amount of counselling or intervention short of being locked in a cage would prevent (and maybe not even then).

                  Sociopaths and the true psychopaths are real. They are not easy to detect.

                  Overarchingly, you’re somewhat missing the point. The number of congenital/systemic psycho/sociopaths is not 10 or 15 and the amount of manpower and resources to seek out and find such people and keep them contained is large enough that through error and/or malicious conditioning the above or what happened to George Floyd or Jacob Blake is *going* to happen. That’s not to say that it should happen but people wringing their hands over it need to get a grip on something.

                  I’ll absolutely agree that after the first 9 days, they’re on the hook for their actions. However, this woman, didn’t in 9 days, go from paragon of health as portrayed here to borderline and if she did the jail isn’t responsible for a good portion of that. Otherwise, what’s the option? Allow everyone with scizophrenia, meningitis, and advanced HIV to roam free until they’re healthy enough that there’s no chance they’ll die? Enough scizophrenics dead in the street or endangering people with HIV and we’ll be right back where we started.

                  1. “Allow everyone with scizophrenia, meningitis, and advanced HIV to roam free until they’re healthy enough that there’s no chance they’ll die? Enough scizophrenics dead in the street or endangering people with HIV and we’ll be right back where we started.”

                    I do not understand what you are proposing.

                    This woman was acutely ill and denied medical treatment. Anyone with medical training should have seen it.

                    Perhaps you do not understand the basic difference between law enforcement and medicine. You do not want that thin wall to break. Really you do not.

    6. Also, once HIV meds are stopped, within a very short time, every drug in that class of medication is rendered useless against the virus.

      I call this case negligent homicide at the least.

  3. hardly an offense that should be punishable by death.

    The kind of lack of objectivity and use of tendentious language that is apparently normal for reason.

    April 5, 2019, […] on April 14

    So you are basically claiming that in nine days, she went from a mostly healthy woman with a well-managed HIV infection to someone close to death because she didn’t take her anti-HIV medications regularly? That’s not how HIV infections work.

    1. Then they should have given her her medications as prescribed and not treated her like shit and then they wouldn’t get blamed.

      1. Then they should have given her her medications as prescribed

        And how do you know that they didn’t? Not from this article.

        I’m not defending the prison. I have no idea what happened, and neither do you. I’m saying that the Reason article is shoddy and tendentious.

        1. Did you read the article? It clearly states they would intermittently give her certain meds (that her husband had brought to the jail that had directions on when to take them). When you have those conditions you have to take the meds as directed or you can quickly go downhill from not taking them…. It seems you are picking and choosing what you saw in the article, bud…

          1. Did you read the article? It clearly states they would intermittently give her certain meds (that her husband had brought to the jail that had directions on when to take them).

            Yes, the article states that. Where is the evidence?

            When you have those conditions you have to take the meds as directed or you can quickly go downhill from not taking them….

            You don’t go “quickly downhill” from not taking your anti-HIV drugs. And you don’t go “quickly downhill” from not taking anti-fungal drugs unless you have a serious, acute infection.

            It seems you are picking and choosing what you saw in the article, bud…

            I’m saying the article is shoddy: it presents assertions by her husband as facts, and it isn’t internally consistent either.

    2. How do you explain her white count?

      1. Privilege..

        1. You won the thread. A very stupid thread but you win nonetheless.

    3. Well, regardless, she clearly received zero appropriate medical attention, which led to an untimely death. That is the point here. In a just society this would be a very serious crime.

      1. Well, regardless, she clearly received zero appropriate medical attention, which led to an untimely death.

        And how do you know that? Not from this shoddy article.

        That is the point here. In a just society this would be a very serious crime.

        Well, good thing that it is a serious crime in the US. I hope a court of law will look into this, gather the evidence, and make a determination.

        1. And how do you know that? Not from this shoddy article.

          You can read the attached court filing to see that, if not neglect, then malpractice occurred. How can you suspect fungal meningitis and lower the dose of an antifungal?

          Well, good thing that it is a serious crime in the US. I hope a court of law will look into this, gather the evidence, and make a determination.

          Sure, it’s a serious crime for little people like you and me, but:

          Since the jail had technically released her to a hospital prior to her death, there was no formal criminal investigation into the case.

          Oh, gee, well, it couldn’t have been their fault then.

          1. You can read the attached court filing to see that, if not neglect, then malpractice occurred. How can you suspect fungal meningitis and lower the dose of an antifungal?

            So fuck due process?

            1. So fuck due process?

              Evidently, yeah, since there are no criminal charges.

              1. *criminal investigation, sorry, no edit.

                How can we have due process if they won’t even investigate?

                1. In other circumstances, libertarians would be happy to let medical malpractice suits solve the issue.

                  I agree that a criminal investigation should take place, it’s a pretty textbook case of negligent homicide, it’s a shame the author spends 95% of the article making the plaintiff’s civil case and only off-handedly mentions the root of the problem.

                  1. Because in other circumstances, people and their families are allowed to seek timely treatment (from a provider of choice) and aren’t in a cage. When you lock someone up, you take full responsibility. That is a pretty stark difference from other situations.

              2. Evidently, yeah, since there are no criminal charges.

                Nothing prevents the DA from filing criminal charges. Obviously, they thought this case wasn’t worth it. Maybe that was a bad call. Maybe the press should hold their feet to the fire over this.

                What I do know is that Reason’s analysis of this (“Since the jail had technically released her to a hospital prior to her death, there was no formal criminal investigation into the case.“) is bullshit. There is no legal exemption for negligent homicide just because you send someone to the hospital before they die.

                1. Well, remember that Obama signed the NDAA allowing indefinite detention without filing charges. The same bill that allowed the deployment of federal troops on US soil. So when people bitch about Trump using federal goons in Portland, just remember who made it possible.

            2. What you and NOYB2 are all wound up about is detention center being subjected to……a critical blog post without a trial! And OMG it’s followed by a comment thread!

              So yeah, fuck due process. Even jailers and cops aren’t entitled to a jury trial before someone criticizes them on the Internet. Man up, badgelickers.

              1. What you and NOYB2 are all wound up about is detention center being subjected to……a critical blog post without a trial!

                Because we’ve absolutely and unequivocally both said, “You can’t post that here!” rather than “That’s not an objective take on the facts.”

                Even jailers and cops aren’t entitled to a jury trial before someone criticizes them on the Internet.

                Having addressed the fact that no one has said they’re beyond criticism, above, if even jailers and cops can’t get a hearing before a fair and impartial jury, who can? What chance does a guy like Kyle Rittenhouse stand? Is the libertarian position really that the court of public opinion is always well-informed, right, and just?

                Up your reading comprehension, Karen.

                1. “if even jailers and cops can’t get a hearing before a fair and impartial jury, who can?”

                  The trial hasn’t even happened yet and you’ve already decided the court will refuse to give them a hearing and/or the jury will be unfair.

                  “that the court of public opinion”

                  Actually it’ll be the US District Court for the Eastern District of Texas. Where there will be a hearing, although you seem to doubt it. And Tana Ganeva made it clear (if you read what was written) that she was reporting on documents filed in court. The allegations may or may not be true but the filing is a fact, and reporting the allegations is perfectly sound journalism. The article also makes clear (if you read what was written) that LaSalle was asked to give their side of the story but hasn’t responded.

                  “Kyle Rittenhouse”

                  What’s he got to do with this? I’d be interested in knowing what connection you see.

              2. What you and NOYB2 are all wound up about is detention center being subjected to……a critical blog post without a trial!

                The article isn’t a “critical blog post”. Critical blog posts would present facts, logic, and evidence.

                All we are doing is pointing out that this Reason article, like so many, is neither factual nor consistent. And as long as Reason pretends to represent libertarian viewpoints, yes, we are going to criticize crappy articles like this.

          2. You can read the attached court filing to see that,

            A court filing tells you what one party alleges, it doesn’t tell you what actually happened.

            Oh, gee, well, it couldn’t have been their fault then.

            You are taking Reason’s bullshit as if it were a fact.

            Again, I’m not defending the prison; I have no idea what happened, and neither do you. I am saying that Reason’s reporting on this is shoddy, incomplete, and in parts contradictory.

            1. Well, if we don’t know yet what happened, we can’t be sure Reason’s take is “bullshit”. Maybe it is, or maybe it will turn out to be 100% correct.

              I get what you’re saying: you think there isn’t enough evidence to support the negative tone of the article and the decision to not put an “alleged” or “claimed” in every paragraph.

              Fine. But I’ve been reading Reason for years and their track record is pretty good. When they report stuff like this, it usually turns out to be true, and backed up (much later) by other news and opinion outlets. The author interviewed the people making the allegations and found them credible. That’s way more than you or I have done.

              1. I get what you’re saying: you think there isn’t enough evidence to support the negative tone of the article and the decision to not put an “alleged” or “claimed” in every paragraph.

                You’re being facetious. Every paragraph might be correct but I could understaind if someone thought it would be obnoxious or unfair. However, not using the words “alleged” or “claimed” once in the entire story is bordering on disingenuous.

                But I’ve been reading Reason for years and their track record is pretty good.

                Then you must’ve quit and just come back recently. They’ve jumped all over pretty much every off-the-cuff (or straight from Vox) narrative since 2016 and even a bit before. To the point where Robby Soave coined a phrase along the lines of “superficially credible accusations” or some such nonsense during the Kavanaugh intertrialvestigation. To the point that, just last week ENB posted a story about a DC youth who was shot in the back fleeing from police who then found a gun and, when the body cam footage came out, clearly showed he was running at an officer with the gun in his hand.

              2. Well, if we don’t know yet what happened, we can’t be sure Reason’s take is “bullshit”.

                What makes the article bullshit is that they present speculation and accusations as facts.

                But I’ve been reading Reason for years and their track record is pretty good.

                Their track record used to be good; these days, it isn’t. They weren’t always this biased and stupid. And that’s the point: they need to get their act together.

          3. You can read the attached court filing to see that, if not neglect, then malpractice occurred. How can you suspect fungal meningitis and lower the dose of an antifungal?

            If they had documentation that the woman suffered from fungal meningitis and required treatment, then they had a duty to provide her with treatment. The problem with the article is that there is no evidence for either of those premises. Those are just claims by her husband. They may be true or they may not be true.

            In fact, if she had fungal meningitis, why did it take the husband three days to bring her meds and prescription?

    4. How long exactly does it take for an HIV patient to start showing symptoms and become ill again after going off of their meds? Can you please cite some reputable source that can tell us how that works?

      1. It’s hard to say definitively. What can be said is that completely unmanaged HIV takes ~5-10 yrs. to progress to AIDS (assuming someone isn’t otherwise abusing themselves into the ground) and well-managed HIV will never progress into AIDS and doesn’t normally suffer cryptococcus (which she had and was already being treated for when she came in).

        Again, not to justify the jail’s lack of action, but her HIV sounds pretty advanced and the sudden desire to seek treatment for her addiction sounds a bit like her death had been foretold and she had seen the light.

      2. It’s variable, but it usually takes at least several weeks for HIV viral load to reach 200 again and for CD4 cells to fall into the range where disease can occur. People used to take 12 week treatment holidays, something which turned out to be statistically not a good idea, but it obviously didn’t kill people after 9 days.

        Again, I’m not defending the prison; they may well have done something wrong. I’m saying that the Reason article fails to present the facts and background information objectively, so we simply can’t tell what happened.

        1. I’m saying that the Reason article fails to present the facts and background information objectively, so we simply can’t tell what happened.

          And my point, from the beginning, is that Reason has a demonstrated habit of almost literally presenting “dog bites man” stories as “man bites dog”.

          1. So? Every media out let has an angle – this is nothing new. We all know reason is holding out on a couple damaging details that make outrage less outrageous. It doesn’t mean they have lost all credibility reporting. They still get a B last I checked on mediafactcheck.

            I mean, I’m literally out of places to get news. I come here for the comments and the reminder of why I need to leave the country.

            I think your complaints about the reporting don’t warrant your position on this bitch’s homicide. You’re just being contrarian. Maybe suck a little less dick – idk I can’t diagnose you over the internet. Either way, choose better battles.

            1. I think your complaints about the reporting don’t warrant your position on this bitch’s homicide.

              I have no position on this woman’s death; I’m saying there are no facts in this article based on which I would have a position.

              But even if this woman was killed by the prison medical system, it’s an anecdote, and isolated case; what do we learn from it?

              Either way, choose better battles.

              And what battle exactly are you picking? A battle for zero people dying due to medical errors in prison hospitals? In what way is that a reasonable objective, when regular folks get killed by regular folks by the thousands every year? Why don’t you pick that battle first?

    5. Please enlighten us on your expertise on HIV, including its pathophysiology, the medication classes used in treatment (e.g., NRTIs, NNRTIs, protease inhibitors, CCR5 antagonists, etc.) and the pharmacology of each, the risk of opportunistic infection, and your expertise in infectious diseases, since she obviously had a mycosis when she arrived at the jail.

  4. Texarkana isn’t a “region” describing the border of Texas and Arkansas. Texarkana, Arkansas and Texarkana, Texas are cities that straddle the Arkansas-Texas border.

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  6. ankle-bracelet removal punishable by death in Texarkana.

  7. Also, can they explain this:

    During this period, her husband and family were repeatedly told she didn’t want to see them, when in fact she appeared to be unaware she had visitors and unable to communicate her desires.

    On June 11, Barlow-Austin stopped moving. Two hours later, jail staff called 911. Her husband once again tried to visit her at the jail, on June 15, only to be told she was no longer there. It took days for him to figure out that she had finally been transferred to the hospital.

    Why would this happen? What defense is there for this?

    1. If that’s how it happened, I hope there isn’t a defense.

  8. Ketoacidosis results from low insulin, not high blood sugar. High blood sugar is one of the *side effects* of low insulin.

    Ketoacidosis is high ketone levels caused by the body metabolising fat – because there’s not enough insulin to metabolize any sugar in the blood.

    1. You may be confusing ketosis with ketoacidosis or, specifically, diabetic ketoacidosis. They are not the same thing.

      Ketosis, as you indicate, results from the breakdown of fats associated with low blood sugar and can lead to ketoacidosis but is generally not a problem with for normal individuals who aren’t starving or dying of thirst. Diabetic ketoacidosis is a condition suffered by diabetic individuals where a lack of insulin causes too much fat (and sugar and usu. electrolytes) to be dumped into the blood stream all at once and the resulting metabolism causes a dangerous pH shift in the blood.

      1. No, I am not confusing them.

        Diabetic ketoacidosis is a condition suffered by diabetic individuals where a lack of insulin causes too much fat (and sugar and usu. electrolytes) to be dumped into the blood stream all at once and the resulting metabolism causes a dangerous pH shift in the blood.

        That’s what I said. Except its not ‘dumping fat into the blood stream’. Its the buildup of metabolites from metabolizing fat – those are the ketones. A dangerously excessive amount of which is ketoacidosis.

        1. Rereading your original comment, we’re talking past each other, chicken and egg, the coin can’t land heads up because it’s tails up vs. the coin can’t land tails down because it’s heads down.

          Ketoacidosis results from low insulin, not high blood sugar. High blood sugar is one of the *side effects* of low insulin.

          One interpretation of this sentence is that you’re saying ketoacidosis cannot occur concurrent with high blood sugar. I’m not saying that’s what you’re saying, I’m saying that’s a valid interpretation of this sentence.

          Ketoacidosis results from low insulin

          No, and again, I don’t mean ‘no, you’re wrong’ I mean, per your own statement, ketoacidosis results from the breakdown of fatty acids in the liver. Fatty acids that couldn’t get to the liver with proper insulin levels.

          because there’s not enough insulin to metabolize any sugar in the blood.

          Again, *an* interpretation is that you’re saying insulin metabolizes sugar and/or that there isn’t any sugar around to metabolize.

          Sorry, ‘eats, shoots and leaves’ with biochemistry instead of punctuation.

      2. Stfu dude. Quit acting like you know any more than your average googler – no ones impressed.

        1. Oh whew! Now that I know *you’re* sufficiently unimpressed I can get back to not impressing the other people I wasn’t trying to impress. Thanks for telling us all how unimpressed you are.

    2. “Ketoacidosis results from low insulin, not high blood sugar.”

      No. Just no. Type II diabetics, who produce normal – or elevated levels – of insulin can develop ketoacidosis.

  9. So what’s the solution here, other than to feel outraged?

    1. it’s Texas so we’d burn down a Whataburger

    2. You’re right Ken – let’s all just stop talking. No reason to mention it. Let’s all talk about the stuff we can affect, like what Kim K is wearing.

      Better – let’s go cancel someone on Twitter. Because we need to do something, this is something, therefore we must do this.

      1. “let’s all just stop talking. No reason to mention it.”

        That isn’t what I said.

        Why are we pointing out problems as if we have no solutions?

        Some people think the solution is to randomly murder cops, burn Portland to the ground, or looting.

        Does that seem like a good idea to you, or do you have a better solution?

        I suggest the locals hold their elected representatives responsible in the upcoming election for starters, and that’s the opposite of not mentioning it.

        1. The problem is already being solved.

          There is a lawsuit.

          Similar solution ton the Stoneman-Douglas murders.

          A suspect stands trial.

          That is the solution.

    3. Good point. It’s a waste of time and energy to talk about anything without a specific solution in mind. Don’t even bring it up. If you can’t fix it, shit the fuck up.

      1. Sex is not integral to the plot if there’s no plot. That’s what makes it porn.

        If there’s no point here, we’re looking at more police brutality porn.

        1. Sorry, there’s tons of porn where sex is integral to the plot.

          1. Apparently my post was eaten by the squirrels because it had the word “pr0n” in it with a link to the Wiki definition of . . . um . . . that.

            Read the article again, and tell whether the point of the article is anything other than to arouse quick, intense reactions–and no apparent other purpose.

            If the purpose of it is to arouse quick intense reactions with no other purpose, then as far as I’m concerned, it’s police brutality porn.

            And a woman answering the door in nothing but lingerie after she calls for someone to come fix her plumbing is not a plot.

        2. A lot of porn in the 70s and 80s had plot

          Debbie Does Dallas for instance, Debbie and her cheerleader friends go out and earn money so they can accompany their football team someplace.

          1. I can’t post anything with the word “pr0n” in it that contains a link–not even a link to Wikipedia or a dictionary.

            The fact remains that “pr0n”, by definition, is sexually explicit content intended to provoke sexual arousal–and because something can be described as “pornographic” that isn’t only “pr0n” doesn’t change that fact in the least.

            Meanwhile, if you go look at Merriam-Webster, you’ll see that one of the definitions of pr0n is “: the depiction of acts in a sensational manner so as to arouse a quick intense emotional reaction”.

            That’s what this is.

            What’s the point of this article?

            If it doesn’t offer any solutions and isn’t trying to make any kind of argument, then it’s more police brutality pr0n–it’s just intended to arouse an intense emotional reaction for that emotional reaction’s own sake.

            Some people love watching police brutality videos–because getting angry gets them off.

            Personally, I prefer riding motorcycles IRL and women IRL, too!

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    4. As I indicated above, charge someone with negligent homicide, if convicted, sentence them including losing their license. If the current DA won’t do it, elect one that will.

      And don’t forget, I’m the shitheel that’s blaming the victim while Agammamon, sarcasmic, et al. are totally out devising solutions to the problem and are absolutely not abjectly virtue signalling at the top of their lungs.

      1. Like you’re not out here virtue signalling?

        Mr ‘fuck ’em, they were going to die anyway’.

        1. Mr ‘fuck ’em, they were going to die anyway’.

          It’s not a virtuous position, it’s an objective truth. Who am I virtue signalling to? Dunphy? Tony? Your mom?

  10. First, the name of this facility containing the words “Justice Center” is a travesty in and of itself.

    The other travesty is this; “The Texarkana jail is operated by LaSalle Corrections, **a private company** that administers jails and immigration detention centers throughout the country.”
    Prisons for Profits so that Wall Street investors can live like kings on the broken backs of the rest of the population.

    1. You know who else was a Wall Street investor?

      Your father’s pension fund.

    2. Commodifying prisoners already subject to dehumanization seems like a recipe for good quarterly numbers.

      1. Here we agree. But your preferred solution — remand prisoners back into the loving hands of your precioussss govermentsess — doesn’t work either. (Kids, can you say “chain gang”?)

        Have any other ideas? Mine would be to reverse the decline in mental health facilities and decriminalize drug offenses.

        1. Those would be good and doable. If I had my way we would probably eliminate prison as we know it. I’m not sold on the retributive theory of justice.

          1. I’m not either, but there are people who should never again breathe free air. Short of killing or lobotomizing them all (interesting in theory, problematic in practice), I think we’re stuck with a penal system.

          2. I’m not sold on the retributive theory of justice.

            Well, as usual, you think about the world as abstract theories. In the real world, incarceration serves several purposes: protecting the population from dangerous people, deterrence, rehabilitation, and retribution.

            If I had my way we would probably eliminate prison as we know it.

            Me too. The libertarian solution is to declare people outlaws and let nature take its course.

  11. I don’t know how anyone can be surprised by this. Depraved indifference is a job requirement for corrections and law enforcement. Sadism as well.

    1. Not surprised, just disappointed. Sort of like these guys’ parents and teachers all throughout their youth.

      1. If you’re disappointed then you should reevaluate your expectations.

  12. Move along…nothing to see here. The victim was white and does not fit the narrative that police brutality/mistreatment only happens to law-abiding black folk. Not unlike Breonna Taylor’s name 100’s of times over the past few months but never the names of Rhogena Nichols and Dennis Tuttle. How about someone in the NBA say their names?

    1. Nobody’s stopping you from advocating.

      1. Also, no one is stopping me from calling out the BS of those doing BS advocating. And no one is stopping you from commenting on me. And no one is stopping me from commenting back to you. Mirrors all the way down…..

        1. It’s activists doing something for their cause and then people bitching from the peanut gallery that they aren’t doing it right.

          1. Sounds like Wednesday.

          2. Actually, the peanut gallery is pointing out that “the cause” (black lives being abused by government police) is bullshit because it ignores the actual problem (lives being abused by government police), and ignoring this kind of story only perpetuates BLM bull fucking shit.

            1. Again, nobody is stopping you from forming your own protests.

              1. I don’t want to do that. I want to stop the BS ones from harming my country, which they have been doing since Michael Brown.

              2. You are so inane it belies explanation.

                Get a fucking hobby. I mean, do you really have nothing better or more important to do than troll a bunch of threads with 10 to 20 posts on almost every one on a website that you hate.

                Fuck the hobby. Get counseling.

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  13. She was in distress with severe headache. Known HIV with a white count of 87. They knew this. That is the end of the decision tree right there. We are calling EMS and you are going to the hospital.

    1. Agreed, we do not have enough information to say if any missed doses while in the prison caused the problem (she could have been missing doses prior to arrival), but she still had major problems and needed hospitalization.

  14. Sorry: she looks too white to me. The cops can’t be accused of racism. Nothing to see here. Move along.

  15. I actually lived in Texarkana for 5 years. Went to HS there. I remember even back then, in the mid-90’s, hearing that the jail was rife with abuse, so this doesn’t surprise me.

  16. The Biden Crime Bill strikes again.

  17. The “cause of action” against the State’s malfeasance, which resulted in the death of Ms. Barlow-Austin is this: a nurse on staff was said that Barlow-Austin “pretends to be weak” and “knows how to play the sickly role.”

    This nurse was practicing medicine beyond her scope of of expertise, she is not competent to deliver an “informed medical opinion” on the matter.

    So it goes.

  18. “And how we burned in the camps later, thinking: What would things have been like if every Security operative, when he went out at night to make an arrest, had been uncertain whether he would return alive and had to say good-bye to his family? Or if, during periods of mass arrests, as for example in Leningrad, when they arrested a quarter of the entire city, people had not simply sat there in their lairs, paling with terror at every bang of the downstairs door and at every step on the staircase, but had understood they had nothing left to lose and had boldly set up in the downstairs hall an ambush of half a dozen people with axes, hammers, pokers, or whatever else was at hand?… The Organs would very quickly have suffered a shortage of officers and transport and, notwithstanding all of Stalin’s thirst, the cursed machine would have ground to a halt! If…if…We didn’t love freedom enough. And even more – we had no awareness of the real situation…. We purely and simply deserved everything that happened afterward.” ― Aleksandr I. Solzhenitsyn , The Gulag Archipelago 1918–1956

    1. My fiance is from Russia – she is 50, so lived in the Soviet union until she was 20. Her mother was a SOviet citizen until she was in her 40s. It is interesting to see their view on things. On the one hand, her mother in particular, thinks nothing is possible: a clear product of the Societ system. But apart from those who were willing to do anything to advance their lot, no matter how wrong, the average Soviet citizen was under no delusion that their government was evil and corrupt…they were jsut too beaten down to resist.

      Here in the USA, the idiots on both sides of the political spectrum applaud and endorse the evil, with bullshit bromides like “Well if you have nothing to hide then who cares?” – they only don’t like it when the other party is doing it.

      Americans are some dumb ass motherfuckers.

  19. Interestingly enough, Rodney Cooper, LaSalle’s Executive Director, shows up on the Opensecrets Donor Lookup as a Texan contributing significant amounts to Democrats.

    The names other officers of the either show no contributions, or the only people with similar names aren’t in the area where LaSalle operates.

  20. There appears to be no reason for Holly Barstow-Austin’s death that goes beyond Lasalle Corrections’ top to bottom incompetence, ignorance, mismanagement, and callous disregard for other humans. There is no reason for a private company such as it is to continue to exist at all, let alone by accepting public money for performing an inherently governmental function.

    The Gawker solution for Lasalle Corrections seems appropriate. I expect Terry Bollea and Peter Thiel would be willing to offer advice.

  21. Medical neglect? That there was a crime against humanity and should be prosecuted in The Hague.

    1. Sure, fuck those dudes at Charlie Hebdo, that was just your everyday run of the mill massacre. The people attacked in the street by “protesters” across the country, they should learn to drive better after dark. But a woman who went into the prison system with rather advanced HIV and a fungal infection and came out the other side dead? We should upend not just the American but the international justice system to rectify this situation. /roughly equal facetiousness

      1. mad.casual: You really are “mad”, e.g., deluded. There is no American/international justice system. There is only a pretense of one, a hoax for the willfully blind political zombies.

        1. There is no American/international justice system. There is only a pretense of one, a hoax for the willfully blind political zombies.

          As opposed to enlightened beings like yourself? How can you have a non-coercive justice system?

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  28. “…there was no formal criminal investigation.” A civil suit will require non-disclosure of the criminal acts. These horrific, indecent conditions will continue as long as coercive govt. exists. Govt. officials, e.g., the D.A. ignores pursuing justice without accountability . How is this possible? Because the political paradigm is to grant a moral/physical violent monopoly to an elite. This is a system of rulers and ruled, aristocracy/bureaucracy and serfs, masters/slaves.
    And public schools train the young to worship this, pledge their allegiance to it, surrender their life to it, before they understand what they are doing. To question the coercive govt. paradigm is like blasphemy, but few would know how anyway because critical analysis is not taught. A thinking person is dangerous to the politics of violence.

    1. To question the coercive govt. paradigm is like blasphemy, but few would know how anyway because critical analysis is not taught.

      Why don’t you use some of that critical thinking and question that coercive govt. paradigm. How would this woman get her meds without government coercing other people to pay for them, for example?

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  30. She should not have been so mistreated but, why was she in jail?

    All we get is “probation violation.” That means she was on probation for something. I F-ING HATE DUMB, LAZY JOURNALISM!!!

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    PRIVATE. A private company did this. The word “private” only appears once in the article because it’s so fucking inconvenient to your ideology to point out that private companies kill and maim people too.

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