Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp Drops Lawsuit Against Atlanta's Mask Mandate
Plus: California Judicial Council sets expiration date for eviction moratorium, the U.S Justice Department accuses Yale of discriminating against whites and Asians, relations thaw between Israel and the UAE, and more...

Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has dropped a lawsuit to overturn Atlanta's mask mandate and shelter-in-place order, saying that he will instead try to address the issue in a public health order.
The governor first sued Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms in July, after she ordered the city to return to "Phase I" reopening guidelines. Under those rules, people could leave their homes only for essential travel, and retail businesses and restaurants were required to operate on a takeaway and delivery model only. Atlantans also faced fines and possible jail time if they failed to wear masks in public.
These were in conflict with Kemp's executive orders, which barred local governments from enforcing public health guidelines that were inconsistent with state policy. The governor had also expressly forbidden local governments from mandating masks.
Over the past several weeks, the two have been in mediated negotiations. In a Thursday statement, Kemp said he was dropping the lawsuit following Bottom's agreement to abandon Atlanta's return to Phase I guidelines. She refused, however, to drop her mask mandate.
"For weeks, we have worked in good faith with Mayor Bottoms, and she agreed to abandon the city's Phase One roll-back plan," declared Kemp in a statement. "Unfortunately, the Mayor has made it clear that she will not agree to a settlement that safeguards the rights of private property owners in Georgia. Given this stalemate in negotiations, we will address this very issue in the next Executive Order."
Bottoms has maintained in the face of Kemp's lawsuit that her ordered return to Phase I conditions was always intended to be voluntary.
Reading is fundamental. @GovKemp is suing Atlanta over RECOMMENDED guidelines. #ATLStrong pic.twitter.com/j4E2XvZAFJ
— Keisha Lance Bottoms (@KeishaBottoms) July 16, 2020
How exactly Kemp will address the issue of Atlanta's mask mandate in his next executive order is unclear. So is why a stalemate in negotiations would lead him to drop his lawsuit. State officials say Kemp's forthcoming order will try to limit the scope of local government's mask mandates to government property.
Some 15 local governments in Georgia have adopted mask mandates. A review by The Atlanta Constitution-Journal found that these mandates were largely symbolic, given that no citations had yet been issued to enforce them.
That fact Atlanta's mask mandate isn't being enforced seems to make the entire controversy over it unproductive political theater.
A mandate that's not being enforced is about as meaningful as the Soviet constitution's protections of free speech. The actual enforcement of the law matters more than what the words on the page say.
When the governor first filed his lawsuit, I favored the effort, believing that ticketing and jailing people for not wearing masks was a violation of personal liberty and a disproportionate punishment. But those unjust punishments are apparently not being metered out in Georgia.
That's a contrast with places like Miami-Dade County, Florida, where cops have set up "mask traps" outside grocery stores, or Nashville, where police arrested a homeless man with substance abuse issues for not wearing a mask.
Why the governor would feel it necessary to expend so many resources on an unenforced mandate is beyond me. Likewise, it doesn't make much sense that Bottoms would insist on keeping penalties against mask-wearing on the books—not to mention telling the media that no one is going to stop her from saving lives by enforcing a mask mandate—if she's not, in fact, enforcing her mask mandate.
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California's eviction and foreclosure moratorium will expire on September 1, following a vote by the Judicial Council, the rule-making body for the state's courts.
The council had imposed a blanket moratorium on evictions and foreclosures, save for cases involving a threat to safety or public health, on April 6—one of 11 emergency rules the council adopted that day in response to the COVID-19 pandemic.
The blanket moratorium proved controversial. In June, the Pacific Legal Foundation sued the Judicial Council on behalf of two landlords, arguing that its eviction moratorium usurped powers the California Constitution grants to the state legislature.
Chief Justice Tani G. Cantil-Sakauye, when announcing the upcoming vote to end the state's eviction and foreclosure moratorium, likewise said that the courts could not do the job of the executive and legislative branches.
"The duty of the judicial branch is to resolve disputes under the law and not to legislate," explained Cantil-Sakauye in a statement. "So I urge our sister branches to act expeditiously to resolve this looming crisis."
There are two bills pending in the state legislature to address the issue—one by extending a moratorium on evictions, the other by offering landlords tax credits to compensate them for unpaid rent.
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The U.S. Justice Department is giving Yale two weeks to drop its use of race and national origin as admission criteria or else face a federal anti-discrimination lawsuit. The ultimatum comes after a two-year federal investigation into the university's admission practices, which found that Yale discriminates against white and Asian applicants.
"Yale's race discrimination imposes undue and unlawful penalties on racially-disfavored applicants, including in particular Asian American and White applicants," wrote Assistant Attorney General Eric Dreiband, who completed his undergraduate degree at Princeton. "The likelihood of admission for Asian American and White applicants who have similar academic credentials is significantly lower than for African American and Hispanic applicants to Yale College."
The Justice Department's investigation was initiated after a 2016 complaint from a number of Asian American advocacy groups. Yale, they argued, was violating Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which bans "programs and activities" receiving federal funds from discriminating on grounds of race, color, and national origin.
Yale President Peter Salovey has called the Justice Department's accusations "baseless" and said the university will not be changing its admission criteria.
QUICK HITS
- The Afghan government has started releasing the last of its Taliban prisoners in the run-up to peace talks.
- Israel and the United Arab Emirates have announced that they will normalize relations, in what The New York Times calls a "landmark accord."
- A Stanford study probes why some people get sick from COVID-19 and others don't.
- President Donald Trump says he is having a lawyer look into whether Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.), who was born in California, is a natural-born citizen.
- The United Kingdom will quarantine arrivals from France, the Netherlands, and Malta because of those country's high COVID-19 caseloads
- Nebraska's state legislature just passed a ban on dilation and evacuation abortions.
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Hey now. Biden said it was him and Obama that got this deal done.
Trump did good on this one.
I was supprised the morning NBC radio news gave Trump credit for it
but then someone came on latter and gave credit to Iran for its terrorist actions causing UAE to get along with Israel for self defensive purposes. strange lense some people look through
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"A Stanford study probes why some people get sick from COVID-19 and others don't."
Racism is the only possible answer.
Inequality.
A Stanford study probes why some people get sick from COVID-19 and others don't.
Racism?
Stanford, not Harvard, so the culprit is probably anti-trans.
Georgia Gov. Brian Kemp has dropped a lawsuit to overturn Atlanta's mask mandate and shelter-in-place order, saying that he will instead try to address the issue in a public health order.
Never risk in court what you can do with a phone and a pen.
Atlanta's mask mandate violates the Georgia state constitution.
Brian Kemp is issuing an order this weekend preventing political subdivisions of the state of Georgia from violating the state Constitution.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1294175230101921793
Reason magazine journalist was attacked at the BLM/antifa gathering in downtown Portland tonight. They didn't want her live streaming.
That was just a peaceful mugging
Local news story. Resources spent elsewhere. Nothing to see here. Move along.
I bet we're gonna get nothing but silence from Reason on that. Cowards.
Peer pressure is a hell of a thing in the fourth estate.
Her discussion on the fifth column was completely different from her articles in reason.
How so? (I'm curious.)
Her articles ar mainly about how good an peaceful Portland is, and her 5th column interview she talks about how horrible and discusting the protesters are and they should have no support
Guess she’s giving whoever is paying her to write what they want to hear?
They also attacked the federal court house again. Guess the violence wasn't actually due to Trump and the Feds.
The mere presence of the Federal Courthouse is offensive and #triggering.
I'm starting to wonder what evidence is in that courthouse that they want disposed of so badly.
Kamala's birth certificate.
is on TOP rolling paper.
Portland has ordered its police to stop protecting the Federal courthouse. they think it will only force Trumps hand to bring back security but maybe Trump realizes that if they burn the court house down it will only look worse for the protesters.
"Portland has ordered its police to stop protecting the Federal courthouse. "
Oh, so their promise to actually let the police do their job was complete bullshit? What a surprise. Shocking, really.
I'm shocked the building is still standing.
Odd that Rommelman herself is downplaying the incident. Seems to be saying the video was posted by accident, but yet she is leaving it up:
https://twitter.com/nancyromm/status/1294182263001735169?s=21
“I'm fine! Sorry. Had not checked Twitter and didn't even know this posted. Super sweet kid on a bike got my phone back and rode it up to me. Carry on!”
Would be good if she would give more details of what happened.
Fucking animals.
A pity. Her articles were decent on the scene reporting.
I had thought she left the area prior to this because of threats? Guess not.
"The Afghan government has started releasing the last of its Taliban prisoners in the run-up to peace talks."
By the end of his second term, Obama had the Taliban nearly defeated. President Hillary Clinton would have secured a final and decisive victory in Afghanistan and brought our troops home.
#StillWithHer
She can be Kamala's Veepee
"So I urge our sister branches to act expeditiously to resolve this looming crisis."
LOL
Bottoms has maintained in the face of Kemp's lawsuit that her ordered return to Phase I conditions was always intended to be voluntary.
Well, what does the "ordered return" actually *say*?
Voluntary like the Tax Code or like the Flag Code?
What don't you understand about a voluntary mandate? It's no harder to understand than a woman with a penis, a peaceful rioter, or a non-racist racial identitarian.
I miss reality.
Reality is for bitter clingers.
Here you go - it's a PDF so I can't copy it.
There are a bunch of exemptions and a lot of wiggle room (must wear a mask where it's "not feasible" to maintain social distancing without saying who's to decide what's not feasible) but it's definitely an order, not a suggestion. The Mayor is full of shit.
https://thefederalist.com/2020/08/13/insane-model-means-colorados-covid-19-policies-are-essentially-based-on-tarot-cards/
Even so, they’re nothing compared to Colorado. Italy, at near 600 deaths per million, would be a welcome relief relative to the devastation that awaits Colorado. This is because, in Colorado, the governor and his advisors say their policies are staving off a massive 12,480 deaths per million.
...To his credit, Samet and his group produced an app of their model and made it available to the public. Using the app, you can turn social distancing to zero and see cumulative deaths spike to more than 70,000. But don’t worry, if 100 percent of Coloradans wear masks, the 70,000 drops to around 68,000 (which shows what the modelers think of masks). I asked Samet if these many deaths were realistic in a Facebook live Q and A on July 30 and he confirmed that if no mitigation efforts were taken, he believes 70,000 Coloradans would die.
How could Polis have such faith in a model? Well, primarily because it is never wrong — in fact, it’s designed that way. The model predicts outcomes that range from no one needing a hospital bed to everyone needing one. Then, whatever number of hospitalizations occurs, the model spits out a social distancing value that Coloradans must have been practicing to cause such numbers. Since social distancing is hard, if not impossible, to quantify for the entire state, the relationship between social activity and hospitalizations assumed in the model is never questioned, rendering the model de facto infallible.
To put the potential carnage in perspective, Colorado Gov. Jared Polis says if his fellow Coloradans returned to pre-pandemic life they would experience more than seven times the death rate of New York and more than 21 times the death rate of Italy. The governor and his health department are saying a staggering 96 percent of people would catch COVID-19 and 45,000 people would require intensive care as a result. Colorado currently has just over 1,000 ICU beds. As such, they are implying almost 72,000 people would die — one out of every 80 people in the state.
While the United States and rest of the world panicked in response to a widely followed — subsequently discredited — Imperial College London report predicting 2.2 million U.S. deaths if we did nothing, Colorado’s modelers, led by Dean Jonathan Samet of the Colorado School of Public Health, determined that 2.2 million dead was too low.
The fact that the model is basically taking the output, number of deaths, and determining the "true social distancing" value... it can never be wrong.
This isn't fucking science. This is fraud.
" Jared Polis says if his fellow Coloradans returned to pre-pandemic life they would experience more than seven times the death rate of New York and more than 21 times the death rate of Italy."
I imagine because of the bustling Colorado streets and packed Colorado subways.
Plus, Coloradans are far more physical and huggy than the Italians.
...Yale discriminates against white and Asian applicants.
Suddenly racial discrimination is bad?
Only to racists.
Racism that defies justice is bad. Racism in the name of justice is good. Understand?
Seattle BLM Protesters To Strangers: ‘Give Up Your House. Give Black People Back Their Homes.’
https://hotair.com/archives/john-s-2/2020/08/13/seattle-gentrification-protesters-give-house-give-black-people-back-homes/
"give us our equity back" -- isn't equity what you pay into some item of value?
Should they visit Harlem next since the demographics are not what they were in the past?
Don't do it it's a trap! As soon as a black person moves in and the white person moves out it will be all of the racist "white flight"
I'm happy Trump is doing the birther thing again. Oh it won't make any difference but anything to smear the left and democrat candidates is just fine.
He's doing the same thing that was done to both Cruz and McCain.
Yeah, but now it's racist and sexist.
What's Romney, chopped liver? Recall how his dad was part of a group of Mormons who briefly relocated to Mexico, and they tried to birther that issue too.
It's just blatant trolling, but I still won't be surprised if leftist media takes the bait.
Trump isn't doing shit dumbest. It is a discussion by a constitutional law professor that was hosted on Volokh. It has been an academic discussion for a century.
Yes, but Jeff gets paid to advance a narrative, not to be honest.
That's true of a lot of people.
It is really not fine that the President is a troll. Our country is spiraling down into a morass of partisan stupidity and hatred, and he keeps making it worse.
Funny how you're far more partisan than John or Jesse and a obvious fifty-center, and yet here you are, pretending to condemn partisanship.
Hypocrite.
It would be odd if I were more partisan than John or JesseAz since I am a libertarian independent that states pretty much every day here that I don’t support the Republicans or Democrats.
While only attacking Republicans and supporting many liberal narratives.
You're just delusional and think an occasional sanctimonious statement undoes the other 99% of your other posts.
You believe in censorship from major corporations. You believe violent mobs can destroy and cause violence as long as they are protesting. You've advocated for paternalism while denying its coercive effects. You deny bad faith actors like China.
Which party is in the White House right now, and also controls the Senate? Which party has several commenters here defending its every action?
"You believe in censorship from major corporations."
As a libertarian, I believe that a company has the fundamental right to use their own website as they see fit. I also think the size of the company is not relevant.
"You believe violent mobs can destroy and cause violence as long as they are protesting."
Nope. I believe that peaceful protestors should not be lumped in with violent protestors, using collectivist guilt-by-association thinking.
"You deny bad faith actors like China."
I acknowledge that China is a huge, complicated place that cannot be summed up with some simplistic phrase like "bad faith actor".
China is not so huge and complicated that one cannot make a reasonable observation that they act in bad faith.
Have you not heard of Hong Kong?
A week or so from now, he will deny that he defended China of being a bad faith actor if it fits his current argument.
I deny right now that I defended China of accusations of being a bad faith actor. If you think that’s what I said, all nuance is lost on you.
China is a huge place, with a diversity of people. It’s more than just its government.
To sum the entirety of China up in one phrase, “bad faith actor”, is like a blind man insisting an elephant is like a snake because he’s only cognizant of the elephant’s tail.
I have not only heard of Hong Kong. I have relatives there, and have been there. I am worried about them.
Still, China is more than a cartoon villain for Trump to use as a bogeyman to charge up his base.
This is hilarious. Someone said liberal tyranny below and you rushed to do both sides. I'll defend hypocritical or lying narratives, but if someone said conservative tyranny I wouldn't even post. You literally rushed to defend an opinion, an accurate one. It is one thing to call out hypocrisy about specific actions or lies about actions, but you flatly defended a group with both sides in a general sense.
And if you don't understand post modernism and the end of objective thought as the biggest risk to liberty, you're lying to yourself.
Ra's was posting a link to an article that tried to advance the narrative that liberals are not Americans. That's a bullshit, hateful, divisive narrative, and should be opposed.
Leftists may be Americans, but they hate this country for it
He is like most of the pseudo idealist crew here that worship people like Amash.
What troll? He was asked a question by a reporter.
And gave a coy, trolling answer.
It depends on what you definition of “is” is.
Bill Clinton was slimy when he said that. If you are trying to zing me because you think I’m a liberal, it’s not going to work. I’m not.
You're just upset that Trump is better at trolling than Obama was.
The U.S. Justice Department is giving Yale two weeks to drop its use of race and national origin as admission criteria or else face a federal anti-discrimination lawsuit.
Quick! Apply to Yale!
Would the Military Side with Leftist Tyranny or with America?
https://townhall.com/columnists/kurtschlichter/2020/08/13/would-the-military-side-with-leftist-tyranny-or-with-america-n2574175?131
“Wait,” the reader asks. “Aren’t generals and majors and stuff conservative?”
Well, in temperament, yes. But they are not conservative in terms of American politics. And for that reason, it is entirely possible, if not likely, that many of them would take the side of the leftist establishment if called upon to resolve a disputed election instead of demurring to the politicians to decide the matter themselves.
...Look at CNN and see the endless parade of fully semi-automatic Obama generals babbling like idiots about how Trump is ruining their sweet gigs, though they don’t put it quite that way. Look at the appalling Chairman of the Joint Chiefs apologizing for following the elected president’s lead. And, especially, look at their horror that America is ending those endless wars.
Those are the generals, and they have the elite’s back, not yours. A general who said “all lives matter” or refused to buy the ridiculous but fashionable notion that America’s greatest strategic threat is the weather a century hence or uttered some other heresy would not be a general much longer – and certainly not cash in on a sweet post-retirement gig at Boeing.
Well, there are generals and then there are NCOs and troops. How many of the latter, in our all volunteer military, come from red states and counties, or are otherwise inclined to be skeptical of the blue state elites?
There are reasons why, when dictators in the USSR and China needed to put down urban movements, they brought in the troops from the countryside.
Jesus, really? “Leftist tyranny” vs. “America”.
Sorry, but leftists, as misguided as they often are, are a sizable portion of your fellow Americans, families, friends, neighbors, and co-workers. They are not the enemy.
The right are not saviors. They have their own problems.
Our task, as libertarians, is to figure out how to convince both to move toward a more libertarian society, not to side with one or the other in the Red vs. Blue Team race-to-the-bottom culture war.
States neutral above, rushes to attack reality about the left here.
If Ra's had posted an article saying that conservatives are not Americans, I would have had the same reaction. But he didn't.
Caw caw!
Frankly, I don't believe you.
Frankly, I don’t care.
He’s a squawking bird and should be treated as such.
If lefties try to institute a tyranny here, the portion that does that is not acting "like Americans".
If righties try to institute a tyranny here, the portion that does that is not acting "like Americans".
Pointing out the left wing or right wing directions that things could "go bad" from here isn't the same as saying that "All X aren't Americans!"
"A mandate that's not being enforced is about as meaningful as the Soviet constitution's protections of free speech. The actual enforcement of the law matters more than what the words on the page say."
This is complete horseshit and anyone who would deign to post on a libertarian website should be forced to transcribe "3 Felonies a Day" from a first edition into a velum manuscript before they are given posting access again.
https://twitter.com/RaheemKassam/status/1294052970586345474
On one side of the street,
@NatGeo
has a massive BLM sign.
On the other, Nat Geo has boarded up all their offices.
Causal relationships are white supremacist constructs.
Hedging?
Both are protective measures.
The sign has the same function as the plywood.
It signals that they are "totes willing to pay the Danegeld, so please don't smash our livelihood."
https://twitter.com/hashtag/SayHisName
How is this not national news? Where is the media coverage? A five year old child was murdered. A sweet and truly innocent life taken. We won’t let you go unnoticed sweet precious boy.
Cannon Hinnant.
I am okay with it not being national news. It is a local murder story and I hate how the media takes local stories and makes them national to push whatever narrative or just for pure pornographic pleasure.
The problem is not that this isn't a national story. The problem is that if the races were reversed, it would be the only national story. The media are just the scum of the earth and seem to exist only to lie and create national division.
"The media are just the scum of the earth and seem to exist only to lie and create national division."
Yep.
And, lest they think themselves above it, this equally applies to those journolists who, maybe don't get the ball rolling, but still join in on the 'conversation.'
Yes, that means most of the roster of writers here. Including you Britschgi. You don't get to pile on other stories, but then close your eyes to this one. Not without it being noticed.
If you didn't know that they really are that stupid and craven, you would think they are all secret white supremacists who are trying to make the white community embrace white supremacy again. What does all of this lying and double standards accomplish other than make truth tellers out of the white nationalists?
Useful idiots.
Racism needs to be a powerful, threatening force.
Otherwise white knights would have no value... and no power
"What does all of this lying and double standards accomplish other than make truth tellers out of the white nationalists?"
Most of them are indeed useful idiots. But their idiotic blindness to their role does not mean that are not serving their use.
Marxist thesis always requires antithesis. That these 'objective' 'journalists' objectively make white nationalists credible to many people may not be their intention, but it is their effect. Thus division is not merely sown, but nurtured.
When the shit hits the fan they will think themselves innocent. Should better men then fail they will find themselves lined up against a wall, and still wonder how it all came to pass.
Too late saw it on my google news feed today. Whether they spead 3 weeks on it is another matter but since the police already caught the guy and it sounded like an open and shut case so probably not.
My heart broke reading the father's account of it. Wanting to go after the guy who just shot his son but unable to leave his son had me teared up.
It's totally national news. The story just wasn't distributed through legacy media.
Multiple repeat felon. Still got a hold of a gun. Did a grand total of six months of adult confinement before this shooting. For things like felony theft of firearms and running the local crack house.
As a victim of violent crime, you will spend more time and money recovering from your assault, than the criminal will spend in jail or prison. Assuming he's ever caught.
They ought to just give the father a machete so he can carve the hood rat's guts out.
"The Justice Department's investigation was initiated after a 2016 complaint from a number of Asian American advocacy groups."
As Koch / Reason libertarians, we believe that since Yale is a private school, it is free to reject Asian Americans with 1600 SAT scores while admitting Black and Brown students with 1200s.
#Libertarianism101
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/opinion/israel-uae.html
Trump's UAE Israel peace deal is so big even Tom Friedman can't minimize it.
or once, I am going to agree with President Trump in his use of his favorite adjective: “huge.”
The agreement brokered by the Trump administration for the United Arab Emirates to establish full normalization of relations with Israel, in return for the Jewish state forgoing, for now, any annexation of the West Bank, was exactly what Trump said it was in his tweet: a “HUGE breakthrough.” . . .
Just go down the scorecard, and you see how this deal affects every major party in the region — with those in the pro-American, pro-moderate Islam, pro-ending-the-conflict-with-Israel-once-and-for-all camp benefiting the most and those in the radical pro-Iran, anti-American, pro-Islamist permanent-struggle-with-Israel camp all becoming more isolated and left behind.
It’s a geopolitical earthquake.
To fully appreciate why, you need to start with the internal dynamics of the deal. It was Trump’s peace plan drawn up by Jared Kushner, and their willingness to stick with it, that actually created the raw material for this breakthrough.
Funny how Reason hasn't written a word about this. Generally reason is all in favor of peace treaties and avoiding wars and all that. I guess this is just "a local story".
Bad news, John, if Tom Friedman thinks the peace deal is a big deal, it probably ain't. Tom Friedman is about as big a fraud of an "expert" as Paul Krugman.
That is a fair point Jerry. I think even Friedman can be right occasionally. Stopped clock and all that.
This really is big news. An Arab opec country is agreeing that Isreal and jews have the right to exist. Now will other countries follow or will the UAE be kicked out of the club
The GCC will follow. They've all been secretly in cahoots with Israel for a while now, and a few of them have publicly congratulated the UAE on this deal. I expect to see a few more such treaties in the next few years.
"The GCC will follow. They’ve all been secretly in cahoots with Israel for a while now, and a few of them have publicly congratulated the UAE on this deal."
Because they're all scared shitless of Iran, and need somebody to counterbalance them. I guess they think the US might be drawing down in the region.
Not so much that the US is drawing down in the region so much as the US was actively backing Iran for eight years (so ironically, Obama can take credit for this peace deal in perverse way). But it's not like relations are going to be un-normalized once the Iran threat is gone.
They literally wrote words about it in the blog post we are commenting on.
John....I am just glad there is positive movement vis a vis Israel and their arab neighbors.
The mainstream left:
http://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1294251541784719360?s=19
The thing is, I bet that guy will still vote Democrat. White liberals really are masochists.
My friend, upper-middle class black guy who's a TV producer, was going on about how blacks have been victims of justice system for years and "f cops, f judges, f trump" yesterday, so i asked "but crime bill Joe and lock em all up Harris are cool?"
His reply: "just lesser of two evils"
How???
No answer
House niggers vs. field niggers?
Trump has done more for POC than any democrat ever but people are blinded by party
"Trump has done more for POC than any democrat ever but people are blinded by party."
Black unemployment lowest since people bothered measuring it. Criminal justice reform, trying to shrink the proportion of black men who've been incarcerated. Both things happening under Trump's watch.
That dude just digs Dat Plantation Life.
https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1293885855677976577.html
What’s happening is this: Thirty years of very meaningful social and economic progress in our cities — which has hugely benefited minorities — is being undone by a toxic coalition of professional ideologues
and “organizers,” rich kids in Che t-shirts, well-coiffed Mayors, and a National Democratic Party that pretends that the ongoing destruction of minority owned businesses and the social and economic infrastructure that is a primary engine for raising African American
and immigrant families into the middle class is somehow about “civil rights” or “racial inequality.” It is not.
They were doing too well under Trump had to be put back in their place by destroying their livelyhoods. Now which party is the real racist party
Michael Cohen reveals his bombshell book about Donald Trump: he witnessed 'golden showers, tax fraud, a secret back channel to Putin, and lying to Melania,' calls president 'a racist, a predator and a con man who wants to be 'leader for life'.
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-8625259/Cohen-reveals-contents-bombshell-book-Trump-saying-witnessed-golden-showers-tax-fraud.html
Yeah, so Cohen had all of this dirt on Trump and didn't reveal any of it when it could have kept him out of jail but now decides to reveal it when doing so could result in the feds giving him more jail time for failing to be truthful.
Jesus Christ you people are stupid. You will literally believe anything.
Yeah, john, keep telling us what great character the con man possesses. Hell, even deep fried conservatives like Erik Ericsson admit he is a scumbag.
The most vetted President in history. You retards have been trying to get him for five years and all you came up with was the pussy grabbing tape. So, either he is the most honest man ever to hold high office or you people are the dumbest motherfuckers in human history. I am going with the latter and some of the first.
>> the pussy grabbing tape
T skated on that because everyone knows it's true.
Yes. And he never said he did it. He said that is how it works. And everyone knows that is the case. But that is the best they ever got on him despite Obama misusing the FBI and CIA to dig up dirt and the entire MSM spending years looking for anything they could find.
It is amazing that is all they were ever able to find.
T traded goods for money, most politicians trade their souls. Likely there's no there there.
I have no idea how a guy can be in commercial real estate in NYC for 40 years, and not be Mobbed up to his eyeballs. Yet Trump did it. Or at least, only contracted with those organizations like every other legitimate business.
agreed. being "mobbed up" either doesn't carry water anymore ... or the mob owns everybody so nobody can throw that stone
"Yeah, john, keep telling us what great character the con man possesses."
Turd addresses "character". Tell us again what got you banned, you pathetic piece of lefty shit.
There's good reason believe Cohen did disclose alot of this when he was interviewed by the feds but we wouldn't know it because the feds have a policy of not discussing ongoing criminal matters.
Yeah, because there has never been any issue with DOJ selectively leaking to harm Trump or anything. You are telling me that Muehler's team had Trump's attorney confirm the dossier pee story and they didn't put it in the report and no one leaked it to the media.
Are you fucking kidding me? You people are unbelievable in the shit you will believe.
You didn't read or understand it apparently. No wonder you're so fucking ignorant.
What did I just say that was wrong? If Cohen told the government about this before he went to jail, that would mean that the Muehler team had confirmation of the pee dossier but didn't say so in their report or leak it to the media.
So I ask you again, are you fucking kidding me? Why would they do that? That makes no sense. It didn't happen that way. It couldn't have happened that way.
So instead of calling names and running away, why don't you just stop lying and pretending everyone will believe the stupid shit you believe.
Beyond that, how would Cohen have any idea if that were true or any proof of what he was saying? He wouldn't. You people are morons.
It is believable as Senator Harris and President Obama are not citizens. It is believable as Joe Biden is mentally diminished. It is believable as mail in ballots (except the President's) are fraud. Why should the right wing get all the fun of conspiracies? What gives you the right to conspiracies but deny them to others?
It’s mail-in ballots are bad, except the entire state of Florida, where they are a good thing.
the fifty-seventh time doesn't make you correct.
I plainly restated what Trump has said over the past few weeks.
Caw caw!
If it was damning you wouldn't have to "restate" it.
It is not a conspiracy that Biden has lost his mind. My lying eyes tell me that. And mail in ballots have been a disaster everywhere they have been tried. No other western democracy conducts election by mail. Calling objections to the US being the first a "conspiracy theory" is just you admitting that you have no argument against the objections.
As far as conspiracy theories in general, if we have a problem with people believing in them too much, exhibit A in that is the Russia hoax, which you and every other dip shit leftist believed for two years against all the available evidence. So, you need to pull the mot out of your own eye and stop being the most gullible and most easily manipulated group of people in history before you start worrying about the evil right wing conspiracies.
So both sides is what you’re going with?
Is there something wrong with engaging in both sides-ism in the comments section of a libertarian website?
Caw caw!
So everyone already knew all that.
Yeah, you guys have the goods on Trump. You just didn't produce it before now because you are playing 4D chess or something.
You are one of the dumbest people on earth shreek. You really are. That is bad enough. What is worse is that you can't seem to understand that no one else shares your level of stupidity.
Another bombshell.
We've reached the tipping point.
The walls are closing in.
It's the beginning of the end.
This guy gets it.
“Cliche’s - 2 for a buck! Get em while they’re cold!”
Prof Eastman cites Article II of the US Constitution's wording that "no person except a natural born citizen… shall be eligible to the office of president".
Obviously the Founders meant to exclude persons untimely ripp'd from xir mother's womb.
What about GMO? Can we get a Khan?
The NeverTrump 'right' wants more MidEast wars. The hard left wants no peace while Israel exists.
Your political friends, Reason.
https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2020/08/13/peace-group-codepink-opposes-trump-administrations-israel-uae-peace-deal/
‘Peace’ Group Codepink Opposes Trump Administration’s Israel-UAE Peace Deal
I think this makes the Onion a more reliable news source than the New York Times now. Have we reached peak 2020 yet?
"Have we reached peak 2020 yet?"
DO. NOT. TAUNT. HAPPY. 2020.
I still have 'Aliens appear', 'asteroid strikes', and 'Cascadia quake', on my apocalypse bingo card.
"Yellowstone" is on mine, so can we stop pushing the button already? :p
Well......... a cascadia quake would solve a lot o problems. Just sayin’.
Got about three more months till we hit the peak.
President Donald Trump says he is having a lawyer look into whether Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.), who was born in California, is a natural-born citizen.
I say it has to be at least 50-50 that Harris and Obama have done the deed.
She's a world class up-fucker, he loves him some chocolate, and they even both have those those stupid-ass faux African names.
That assumes Obama and her play on the same team. That might be true but it is still a pretty big assumption.
Yeah, Obama didn't prove how hetero he was to you wingnuts by banging porn whores like Stormy Daniels.
Yeah because if he were gay that would be bad or something. Funny how leftist assholes like you are always racist and homophobic.
sounds to me like a beta cuck who's pissed because others can get laid, while your whole white knighting feminist attitude gets you nothing but disdain. Don't go shooting anything up, you genetic dead end.
https://twitter.com/MrAndyNgo/status/1294107924910837761
“Who do we protect? Black criminals”
BLM and antifa hold another street protest in Seattle. Meanwhile, Chicago BLM is organizing protests in support of looters arrested last weekend, calling it “reparations.”
Yale was named after a literal slave trader.
Department of Justice says Yale discriminates against whites and Asians
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-53774075
More bad economic news.
Charles Koch current net worth: $57.0 billion
Barely in the global top 20. Down $5 billion this year. And you know why? Because Orange Hitler won't let him hire his preferred labor force: immigrants, especially from Mexico.
#OpenTheBordersToHelpCharlesKoch
It really is pretty amazing that Koch could be down $5 billion.
I understand OBL's analysis, but anyone else have any theories on how that's possible given the market rebound?
Apparently this so-called "rebound" cannot repair the damage caused by Drumpf's high-tariff / low-immigration policies.
Note further that Mr. Buttplug's hero Warren Buffett is down a shocking $9 billion this year. Also clearly Drumpf's fault.
#VoteBidenToHelpBillionaires
The Koch business is heavily weighted towards natural resources like oil and natural gas. Those markets are still off a bit because demand hasn't rebounded.
Because the "market rebound" is limited to a handful of stocks, FAANG mostly. And the rest of it assumes there's no risk in stocks any more because Uncle Sucker will just bail out the big corporations anyways.
https://www.facebook.com/couriermail/posts/10158092743207702
It will become an offence for journalists to publish corruption allegations against candidates for state and local government elections under new laws introduced into Queensland Parliament today. (Yep, you read that right)
"President Donald Trump says he is having a lawyer look into whether Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.), who was born in California, is a natural-born citizen." Link provided headline is "Trump stokes 'birther' conspiracy theory about Kamala Harris."
Wait... so a reporter asks Trump about Harris' eligibility based on a long standing argument surrounding the 14th Amendment's citizen phrasing and Trump basically says "I don't know". And that is interpreted as Trump "stoking" a "birther" conspiracy theory. Further, the legal argument surrounding the Constitutional question is deemed "racist". Just incredible.
Forget it Bobby, it's china-town.
Settle down. In 2020-speak "racist" means anything I don't like or agree with.
Here is the idiocy.. birtherism was about Obama not being born in the United States. This current argument was from Prof Eastman, hosted on Volokh, about the fact neither of Harris' parents were citizens, so it involves the second part of the clause about jurisdiction. Basically similar to a child of 2 foreign diplomats not being a citizen. The academic question has existed for a funcking long time.
Eastman’s argument is hosted at Newsweek. Volokh’s essay arguing that Harris is a natural-born citizen is on Volokh.
He didn’t basically say, “I don’t know.” He coyly encouraged the speculation.
And it appears that speculation is warranted; see directly above your post.
BTW, you claim to have been around here for a while, and yet you have a brand new screen name.
What are you hoping to hide?
https://twitter.com/stclairashley/status/1294265440924053510
So they’re cancelling the 9/11 tribute lights in NYC because "the health risks during the pandemic are far too great"
Bullshit!
This is because they don’t want to paint the police officers & first responders who lost their lives saving others on 9/11 in a positive light.
Yep. At some point the mob's gonna come for Deblasio, and I fully expect the cops to have important calls elsewhere preventing them from assisting him.
My only comfort in all this is the knowledge that the vanguard of the revolution is always eventually eaten by their own Frankenstein.
If DeBlasio doesn't end up strung up by his own thumbs, it'll be too good for him.
So the Kungflu recession and the 2008 financial collapse are pretty comparable economic events. Obama took office at the bottom of a very deep trough in the business cycle. Trump was handed a similarly deep trough last spring with the pandemic.
The economy under Trump has created more jobs coming out of the Wuflu recession in three months, than it did in 8 years under Obama.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/washington-secrets/message-man-mike-more-jobs-under-trump-pence-since-may-than-all-of-obama-biden
Amazing what a difference having a President who isn't a Marxist idiot can make.
That is a lie.
Since Obama took office in January 2009, the US economy has added 11,250,000 people to total nonfarm payrolls.
https://www.businessinsider.com/obama-jobs-report-labor-market-participation-rate-2017-1#since-obama-took-office-in-january-2009-the-us-economy-has-added-11250000-people-to-total-nonfarm-payrolls-1
And that includes 400,000 government jobs lost and the 4 million jobs lost in 2009.
So, Trump's economy created 9 million jobs in three months after the bottom of the business cycle and Obama managed 11 million IN SEVEN YEARS.
I think that sounds ever better. Thanks for the help retard.
Trump spent $2.7 trillion bribing companies to not layoff workers. Trump is the true Marxist and you lick his boots like the useful idiot you are.
Trump spent $2.7 trillion bribing companies to not layoff workers.
You lefty out Pelosi, turd.
If the companies didn't lay anyone off, then the job was never destroyed and thus isn't counted in the jobs created numbers.
Try again you fucking moron.
Marxist. You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
It's crony capitalism and it's what every member of both parties gleefully participate in behind your back. The Democrats have no intention of stopping or even slowing it down.
Are you saying you're opposed to the $2.7 trillion bribery? Can you post a link to a democrat saying we shouldn't do that? I'm willing to be that the only link you can find says that we should do even more of it. I'll go on record saying I'm against it whether it's Trump, Harris/Biden, or any member of Congress. Just like I'm willing to say that I'm against giving government at all levels the power to turn the economy on and off like a light switch when ever they think I'm at risk of getting the sniffles so that creating trillions of dollars out of thin air doesn't become necessary.
I'm willing to bet that you're going to get all sanctimonious about that "bribery", go to the polls and perpetuate it and then righteously defend it when the numbers get even bigger because Rachel Maddow told you that you checked the right box on your little piece of paper. You are the very definition of a useful idiot.
Fuck you.
I hate progressives as much as I hate conservatives.
You need to read some Ayn Rand who hated Reagan. She and Hayek knew that conservatism was shallow and worthless.
"I hate progressives as much as I hate conservatives."
That mirror must take a lot of hits, you fucking piece of lefty shit.
"Fuck you."
????
He’s an asshole that was previously banned for posting links to kiddie porn. Don’t ever be shocked by any of his posts.
Here, turd, feast your eyes on this:
"Obama was terrible for economic growth "
[...]
"Last week the Commerce Department released its third revision for fourth-quarter 2016 gross domestic product. The number came in at a paltry 2.1 percent, meaning that growth during President Obama’s final year in office — the end of an “Error of Hope” — landed with a big thud at just 1.6 percent.
That low-water mark puts the Obama presidency in last place among all the post-World War II presidents when it comes to economic growth..."
https://nypost.com/2017/04/01/obama-was-terrible-for-economic-growth/
Obama stinks and you do too, turd.
https://twitter.com/nytimes/status/1294242409023524869
The decision to cancel the 9/11 tribute lights in Manhattan was made because "the health risks during the pandemic were far too great" for the crew of about 40 stagehands and electricians
"the Judicial Council, the rule-making body for the state's courts."
Is there any government entity in California that does not make rules?
Ballot propositions. At least not enforced ones.
The paranoia and conspiracies the left is peddling about QAnon may be even crazier than QAnon itself.
The NY Times is comparing QAnon to the Tea Party:
"That is a description of the Tea Party movement, which emerged in 2009 from the right-wing fringes and proceeded to become a major, enduring force in American conservatism.
But it could just as easily be a description of QAnon, the pro-Trump conspiracy movement that has emerged as a possible inheritor to the Tea Party’s mantle as the most potent grass-roots force in right-wing politics.
https://www.nytimes.com/2020/08/13/technology/qanon-tea-party.html
They're getting the Tea Party all wrong, too. The Tea Party began as a grass roots reaction to TARP, which coalesced and migrated into the Republican party through opposition to ObamaCare among other things. QAnon isn't really issue driven at all. We're probably talking about 40,000 Twitter trolls and Facebook promoters with four million followers max between all of them--which represents less than 1% of the American people, all of whom probably would have voted for President Trump anyway.
if Jesse Walker were here to write about QAnon, he might focus on what the left's overreaction tell us about their own anxieties. I can't help but think that a ton of those QAnon followers on social media are just Trump supporters trolling people on the left for the lulz. I bet they sport QAnon hashtags for the same reason they voted for "Boaty McBoatface". They do it because it drives progressives crazy.
And it's working. The left is going nuts over QAnon. I haven't seen anything this funny since the evil clown epidemic of 2016. In 2016, once the crazy clown sightings start hitting the news, people started dressing up as crazy clowns to do things, like, deliver pizzas no one ordered just for the lulz. Jesus Christ, QAnon started on 4chan, and somebody's taking it seriously?!
Those QAnon hashtags are just #iseewhatyoudidthere. It's this election cycle's Pepe the Frog. The left is making themselves look even more ludicrous than usual.
I would bet at least half of the self professed Q Anon believers are just people trolling and having fun with it. And most of the rest are people who think it might be true but don't take it that seriously and find the whole thing entertaining. There are very few true believers.
The other thing is that QAnon isn't any crazier than Louisa Mensch. And a ton of blue check journalists and leftwing academics treated her like the Oracle of Delphi for much of 2016 and 2017. Mensch's raving were taken much more seriously by the left than anything QAnon has ever said was taken by the right. That never gets mentioned in all of the gnashing of teeth of how the evil right believes in Qanon.
I have a friend who's like that. Totally deadpan but I'm sure she's been trolling her friends and acquaintances with this and a bunch of other things for decades. She has a wicked sense of humor.
She also pretends that Q has a special personal psychic connection to her, and speaks of Q as if s/he weren't generally known on the Internet. It was a long time before I realized that Q and QAnon were the same thing.
LOL
Qanon believers are mostly just another bogeyman like the "alt-right".
Statistically irrelevant internet fringe groups that the left establishment massively inflates in size and relevance, and uses to frighten wine moms and vodka aunts.
Q folks are a diverse group.
They believe to a varying degree, fro. The ridiculous to the curious.
Most believe that child sex trafficking does happen and is a problem, specifically among the social elite.
And between the catholic church and epstein as recent examples, they're not without some support
Ken, remember that earnest ideologues and puritans struggle with humor and really can't do satire. Like many autistics, everything they see and hear is taken as literal truth, no fiction allowed.
QAnon is one of the funniest and best long cons ever perpetrated. Like I said above, I think most of the people who follow it realize that and find it entertaining. But as you say, some people just lack the ability to understand satire.
They do the same thing with Trump himself.
I know Gillespie wasn't the first to say it, but he's the one I heard it from. It went something like, "Trump's fans take him seriously without taking him literally, and Trump's critics take him literally without taking him seriously".
If they were taking these people seriously, they'd realize they were joking. It's just like that time candidate Trump made the crack that maybe we should ask the Russians if they help Hillary find her emails during his debate with Hillary. He was making fun of her for using an unsecured email server, but the press cited it as evidence that Trump was working with the Russians!
No sense of humor--and it's hilarious.
They're the butt of the joke for taking this stuff literally, and if they could just take this seriously for a moment, they'd see that.
If Trump called Biden a panty-waist, the press would fact check it and tell us that there is no factual basis for the charge that Biden wears pants with snaps or diapers.
They're nuts.
And I don't mean that they literally grow on trees.
I've heard of QAnon but read nothing from them, couldn't even find them, maybe google blocked them but anyway based on your comments they sound like Trolling which I beleive is what most flat earthers are trolls for arguments sake since they piss off so many people who claim to believe science.
They're like the energy vampire in What We Do in the Shadows.
Reason needs a thumbs up button
Great show. And a good example of humor that I bet most leftists don’t get.
Love that show
https://twitter.com/rkylesmith/status/1294071212717604864
HBO Max Adds "Proper Social Context" Intro to 'Blazing Saddles'
https://twitter.com/CrainsChicago/status/1294037967632302080
BREAKING: Macy’s has notified its landlord that it wants to vacate much and possibly all of its huge Magnificent Mile outlet in Water Tower Place, sources tell Crain's.
"Yale President Peter Salovey has called the Justice Department's accusations "baseless" and said the university will not be changing its admission criteria."
What good is getting people riled up about institutional racism unless we can use it to further our own agenda?
didn't Salovey also say that the 2-year investigation was "rushed"? Fucking hack
"That's a contrast with places like Miami-Dade County, Florida, where cops have set up "mask traps" outside grocery stores, or Nashville, where police arrested a homeless man with substance abuse issues for not wearing a mask."
Huh... I guess the Florida and Tennessee governors should have brought a lawsuit against those localities.
oh, apparently some bitch on the Nashville city council wants to make not obeying the mask laws carry the same punishment as attempted murder charges. Luckily the city council can't create criminal law.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/news/nashville-city-councilwoman-recommends-attempted-murder-charges-for-some-not-wearing-face-masks
"The Justice Department's investigation was initiated after a 2016 complaint from a number of Asian American advocacy groups. Yale, they argued, was violating Title VI of the 1964 Civil Rights Act, which bans "programs and activities" receiving federal funds from discriminating on grounds of race, color, and national origin."
So, it turns out the whole thing about how racism isn't really racism unless it's used against a race that has been historically undermined by the power structure isn't actually in the Civil Rights Act--it was just a bunch of hooey cooked up by academics and chanted like a mantra by lefty morons trying to get us to pretend they're right for fear of being called racist?
Well that explains a lot.
Meanwhile, as a private institution, Yale can choose to forgo any contracts it willingly entered into with the federal government with the stipulation that they would abide by Title VI. If they really wanted to undermine the Trump Justice Department on this, that's what they'd do, too.
The Justice Department is obviously looking to make an example of Yale. They'll apply the same standards to other private universities and cite Yale's compliance as an example if they can. Yale may have the wherewithal to fight this in court--but that might mean this case ultimately sets a precedent if it goes to the Supreme Court.
If they care more about their principles than they do about the money, they might forgo some contracts this year and hope that the Justice Department is under the sway of Vice President Harris when it's finally time to litigate come 2021.
Yale might fight it. I don't think that it is a bad bet that Goresuch and or Roberts would dream up some absurd justification for how the CRA doesn't protect whites or Asians under that law. Such a decision, while absurd, would be no less absurd than Goresuch ruling that the CRA did cover transgender and homosexuals.
Certainly such a decision would get whatever conservative who defected a tremendous amount of elite social approval. Given that, I would say there is at least a 40% or more chance it might happen.
So, Trump's going to get his Nobel Peace Prize any second, right? RIGHT?
I mean, Obama got his after 10 months of just existing, oh, i'm sorry, for "extraordinary efforts to strengthen international diplomacy and cooperation between peoples." While Trump actually has strengthened international diplomacy and cooperation, between N & S Korea, between Israel and UAE, and between the Taliban and the Afghan government. He's lowered tensions in at least 3 hotspots and is ending a war. But Orange man baaaaaaa'd, right?
Could you imagine the the celebrations in newsrooms across the world if a (D) had done any of that.
This demonstrates the appalling control of the media that the establishment holds. Even at "contrarian" publications like Reason.
Brian Kemp is like so many other politicians who talk about local control, but believe it stops at any governing body below them.
Here's something people should definitely consider when they're voting this year--Joe Biden is 78 years old by my count. That means he'll be 82 in 2024.
I appreciate that 60 is supposedly the new 40, but 82 is still 82. I'm trying to picture an 82 year old man on the campaign trail 2024, when he could be relaxing on his estate in Delaware instead, and I'm not seeing it.
The oldest president, when he left office, was Ronald Reagan, and he was 77. When Trump leaves office, he'll be the oldest at 78 years old.
What does this have to do with 2020?
Chances are that Kamala Harris will be the president come 2024--if Biden is elected president. When a new president's faces his first midterm election, there's almost always a huge reaction for the opposing party against whatever party is in power in the White House. It's typically a reaction to whatever they did in their first 100 days. There was an exception when Bush Jr. was enjoying support during the beginning of the War on Terror, in 2002, before we invaded Iraq, but Trump, Obama, and Clinton all faced a much more hostile congress after their first midterm.
The likely scenario, if Biden wins the election, may be that he pushes the Green New Deal and the Medicare for All through Congress, the Republicans take both houses of Congress in 2022 in reaction to that, and then Biden gives the keys to Kamala Harris and says, "Screw you guys. I'm going home". Now we're dealing with President Harris come 2022.
In other words, we shouldn't just think of Harris as inconsequential beyond what she does for the ticket in 2020. There may be people out there who would prefer Biden to Trump but would also prefer Trump to Harris. And somebody should make it clear to them that if Biden wins, the chances of having six years of President Harris, in stead of eight years of President Biden, are fairly high.
Pretty sure a D POTUS vote is a vote for Harris. Biden isn't circling the drain like that tin-pot-dictator wannabe FDR was, but the 25th says you can't be mentally incompetent and keep the job.
I don't believe he'll want to campaign tirelessly all over the country in 2024; even if he's mentally competent, that's not something 82 year old guys want to do if they can kick back in one of their mansions instead.
I don't see how Biden winning the election is "likely". Fifty fifty maybe but I think likely is a big stretch.
Beyond that, no one on the Democratic side seems to be making any effort to disprove your supposition that he is unfit to serve four years in office and Harris would end up President should he win.
I find that remarkable. You would think Biden would be out doing pushups and playing kids at chess to show how fit and up to the job he is. You would think all of his defenders in the media would be going full bore to push the narrative of how healthy he is and how all claims that he isn't are just right wing lies. That is what they did with the claims of Hillary being sick in 2016.
I don't see any of that going on here. It seems that the Democrats are almost admitting that Biden is senile and won't last in office. I don't think that is going to sell to the public. The only time such a thing has been tried was in 1944. But that was with Roosevelt, who had been elected three times previously and in the midst of World War II. The Democrats kicked Hopkins off the ticket and put Truman on because everyone knew Roosevelt was going to be dead before the end of his term. And the country was okay with that. We are not in World War II, Biden isn't Roosevelt, and Harris isn't Truman.
I didn't say that Biden winning was likely. I said, "Chances are that Kamala Harris will be the president come 2024–if Biden is elected president.
In the Democrat primaries, centrist Democrats turned out to vote for Biden because he was the least socialist of the contenders and he was the least of the social justice warriors among the major contenders.
The moderate Democrat vote should understand that if they vote for Biden, they may not get Biden. It may be more likely that they get two or six years of the authoritarian progressive gun grabbing socialist from California they all voted against in the Democrat primaries instead. I don't know that this will persuade them to vote for Trump, but it might convince them to stay home.
"Beyond that, no one on the Democratic side seems to be making any effort to disprove your supposition that he is unfit to serve four years in office and Harris would end up President should he win.
He's been given a soft pitch because of the pandemic. If the cameras had been following him around and he'd been making public appearances during the riots, he'd have been forced to condemn them or support them on camera. He can hide in his bunker and blame it all on the pandemic. No need to take questions--not even from his fans. He's running Eastwood's empty chair campaign. He just isn't there.
Running as an empty chair leaves the impression that he isn't fit to serve in the office. He is going to have to come out and campaign and debate Trump eventually or the public will conclude he either doesn't want the job or isn't up to it.
He won't get the benefit of a convention bump either.
Usually the Democrat would get a bump after all the favorable theatrics of the convention, and the Republican would get another bump back after he was in the spotlight.
I doubt many people will tune in for the convention. They'll tune in for the debate, but if Trump does half as good with Biden as he did with Clinton, he'll clean Biden's clock.
Then there's this:
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/2020/president/us/general_election_trump_vs_biden-6247.html
Biden was +10% against Trump in mid-June.
Biden was about +6.5% against Trump on August 5.
The gap is narrowing and will continue to narrow, and the national polls don't matter--if they include California and New York state.
That gap is also in polls that over sample Democrats by 10% or more. If Biden is only ahead by 6% in those polls, he is likely significantly behind in the actual electorate of people who will show up and vote.
Yep. For one, polls of registered voters vs. polls of likely voters. Statistically, Republicans are more likely to vote than Democrats so polls of registered voters undercount them.
Add to that, I thought Biden wasn't going to show up in person at the Convention? Which is nuts.
Yeah, the convention will be 100% virtual.
If you thought sporting events were boring without a crowd, wait 'til you see an acceptance speech from inside Biden's bunker.
I don't get it. With the accusations of dementia floating around him, marching up to a podium with vigor and giving an acceptance speech is exactly the sort of thing his campaign needs. LOL at the COVID excuse. The SS could sterilize a path from his limo, to that podium, and back.
That he won't do it, implies he can't do it. Which should be bad for his chances, if people gave a shit about voting for a doddering old man.
> President Donald Trump says he is having a lawyer look into whether Sen. Kamala Harris (D–Calif.), who was born in California, is a natural-born citizen.
I hate doing this, but I have to defend Trump. Let me quote him: "I have no idea if that's right.".
Yes, Trump is a birther. Ugh. But contrary to the article, he was NOT the person who started birthism (that was someone in the Hillary Clinton campaign), nor the ringleader. As far as I can tell, Trump just used birther language to dog whistle to his base. Not good, but doesn't make him the head of the movement.
As for Harris, I despise her. But the Constitution is the Constitution is the Constitution. She was born on US soil and her parents were subject to US law at the time and is thus a US citizen. She was NOT born in an embassy or anything like that. The lawyer pushing the idea that she is not a citizen is nuts.
Just to point out, it wasn't somebody in the Hillary Clinton campaign who started birtherism - both George Romney and Barry Goldwater at least faced the issue and I'm sure, given how dirty campaigns used to be, that some Presidential candidate(s) back in the 1800's had claims made about them as well.
Also just to point out, the reason this needs to be mentioned is that any mention of birtherism automatically brings up Donald Trump and Barack Obama, as if Trump invented birtherism and specifically for racist reasons. The press isn't going to mention to you that this sort of smear existed long before The Magic Negro decided to run for office, nope, it's all about racism, nothing else. And now he's doing the same shit again with another Person of Preferred Pigmentation! See! Racist! And no mention of the same shit with Cruz and McCain, that Trump doesn't discriminate on who he smears.
McCain did as well since he was born on a US Naval base in Panama.
I don't think the Obama birtherism came from nothing. I have no doubt he was born in Hawaii. The birtherism came about I think because he pretended to be a Kenyan national to get into Columbia and later Harvard. So, what likely happened is someone who knew him in college remembered him as being Kenyan because that is what his records said he was and that became the irritation that turned into the pearl that is the birtherism conspiracy theory.
There has never been any explanation why Obama refused to release his college records. Clearly his grades were not bad and he didn't get into any trouble or he would have never gotten into Harvard. That he pretended to be a Kenyan national as a way of gaining easier admittance or perhaps financial aid is the only explanation for why he wouldn't release his records that ever made any sense.
Agreed that Obama's refusal to release college records is likely tied to his nationality claims. However, if he claimed to be from Kenya, did he provide a birth certificate? Committing a fake Kenyan birth certificate for college admission is fraud. Not that any Dem or liberal would hold that against him...
It is a constitutional law scholar that gets hosted on Volokh from time to time.
Thats your definition of nut?
"But the Constitution is the Constitution is the Constitution. She was born on US soil and her parents were subject to US law at the time and is thus a US citizen. She was NOT born in an embassy or anything like that. The lawyer pushing the idea that she is not a citizen is nuts."
That's a pretty weak summary of the issue/argument - it makes it seem like you haven't actually engaged the issue. if you want to brush the argument aside, I think the most anyone can say is that it is legal/semantic issue that, though it may have some thought and historical perspective behind it, has essentially been left behind and most people aren't interested in considering it anymore (despite the fact that it may be factually accurate). Not sure why you think the lawyer is a nutter. The Newsweek article bio reads "Dr. John C. Eastman is the Henry Salvatori professor of law & community service and former dean at Chapman University's Fowler School of Law. He is also the 2020-21 visitor scholar in conservative thought and policy at the Benson Center for the Study of Western Civilization, University of Colorado Boulder. Dr. Eastman is also a senior fellow at the Claremont Institute and founding Director of the Institute's Center for Constitutional Jurisprudence." I hold the Claremont institute in high esteem and I listen to their weekly podcast in addition to Reason's.
FYI: The Claremont podcast I'm referring to is the American Mind podcast.
there was a time being born in the U.S. did not make you a U.S. citizen unless one of your parents were a U.S. citizen. 1959 to 61 i believe was the date, hence teh question about Obama. However Harris was born in 64 so she is a citizen
Obama started the birther issue when he allowed his publisher to put out a blurb that stated he was Kenyan born. And he certainly wasn't helped by those close to him like his African grandmother who said she remembered his birth there.
Epic Games is directly attacking Apple and Google's control of their respective app stores through Fortnite. This is actually a fairly big story because it causes all kinds of interesting things if they manage to win in the process.
My impression is Fortnite is pretty much the biggest deal going right now for anyone under 30. Every teenager or video game playing guy I know, and I know several, plays Fortnite. My money is on Fortnite. No one who plays that game gives a damn about what ap store they get it from. They just want to play the game and will use whatever ap store or platform is necessary to do that.
My son is nuts for it and Epic is all in on this. Recently did an parody of Apple's famous "1984" ad with Apple being "Big Brother". They're marketing of "We don't want to charge you 30% more for stuff in this game for these stores" actually works well on the young set.
"Why the governor would feel it necessary to expend so many resources on an unenforced mandate is beyond me. "
Christian, how often do "unenforced mandates" get enforced? It's not that rare.
And it's odd seeing Libertarians opposing the ending of onerous laws solely because "well, they aren't used to attack people too much"
Who boggled up the reply button?
I suspect they're trying to do something about the spam, and it's doing other stuff, too. I believe this whole site was built in-house.
The other day, it suddenly didn't like my tiny url anymore, and the spammers love them some tiny urls.
I was going to ask the same thing. Every other website I use is fine.
One of the interns must have gotten their hand stuck in the commenting machine again.
I comment about it and everything returns to normal. I had no idea I had such pull around here!
Good job.
Oh Hell, now he's going to want a raise.
Quick comment about an edit button
just here to remind everyone Kristy Swanson was by far the better Buffy.
HOW DARE YOU!
Agreed
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