Psychology/Psychiatry

We Don't Need a Psychiatric Diagnosis To Assess the President's Obvious Faults

No amount of psychoanalyzing can disguise the grim choice facing voters this fall.

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Anti-Trump D.C. lawyer George Conway, who somehow has managed to remain married to senior White House adviser Kellyanne Conway, offers a characteristically harsh take on the president in a recent Washington Post op-ed piece. His assessment of Donald Trump as a narcissistic, erratic, impulsive, mendacious, petty bully with modest intellectual abilities is familiar and, I think, essentially accurate. But in the midst of describing the conspicuous evidence of these character traits, Conway tries to bolster his portrayal by citing "tens of thousands of mental-health professionals" who have "test[ed] the bounds of professional ethics" by "warn[ing] for years about Trump's unfitness for office."

Far from clinching Conway's evaluation, that citation makes it less credible. If Trump's "unfitness for office" is as glaringly obvious as Conway argues, why would we need "mental-health professionals" to verify that conclusion? And what do those experts add to our understanding of Trump's manifold shortcomings, which were clear long before he was elected and have been on public display every day of his presidency? Absolutely nothing. By dressing up a political judgment as a quasi-medical diagnosis, Conway, who describes Trump as "deranged" and "nuts," clouds the issue while alienating anyone who is appropriately skeptical of psychiatry's audacious claim to dominion over all human foibles and failings.

The most commonly suggested psychiatric label for Trump is "narcissistic personality disorder," which is diagnosed based on five or more of these eight criteria:

1) a grandiose sense of self-importance

2) a preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

3) a belief that one is special or unique and can be understood only by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people

4) demands for excessive admiration

5) a sense of entitlement

6) taking advantage of others for one's own advancement

7) lack of empathy

8) envy

The "mental-health professionals" who impress Conway so much are not wrong in thinking that Trump seems to display these traits. But in taking the further step of saying he therefore suffers from a "mental disorder" that renders him unfit for the presidency, they are not only violating the American Psychiatric Association's stricture against diagnosing people from afar; they are lending a pseudoscientific veneer to a judgment that mere laymen are perfectly capable of rendering on their own.

The qualities that offend Conway were readily apparent to anyone who paid attention to the 2016 presidential campaign, or for that matter to Trump's decades as a public figure prior to that. Almost half of voters nevertheless were willing to give him a try. Conway argues that Trump's performance in office, and especially his response to the COVID-19 pandemic, shows they were dangerously mistaken. That is a plausible political argument, but appeals to psychiatric authority do not make it any stronger.

Even voters who are persuaded by Conway's case against Trump can hardly be enthusiastic about the leading alternative. Joe Biden's nomination, like Trump's, demonstrates nothing so much as the pathetic inadequacy of his rivals and the party from which they emerged. The former vice president's main qualification, aside from a long résumé featuring myriad terrible policy judgments, is that he is not Donald Trump. And while Trump's opponents lean heavily on a psychiatric construct that tells us nothing about him we did not already know, Biden, long notorious for gaffes and weird speech patterns, lately has been showing signs of an age-related cognitive decline that could make the 77-year-old candidate, who would be the oldest president Americans have ever elected, mentally unfit for office.

Based on what I know about both of these men, I am not comfortable trusting either of them to preside over the federal government. Justin Amash, the Michigan congressman seeking the Libertarian presidential nomination, is vastly preferable by pretty much every measure. And while a President Amash might be no more than a pleasant fantasy, that is all we are left with in a political system that persistently produces choices that are not just uninspiring but alarming.

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  1. “1) a grandiose sense of self-importance

    “2) a preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

    “3) a belief that one is special or unique and can be understood only by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people

    “4) demands for excessive admiration

    “5) a sense of entitlement

    “6) taking advantage of others for one’s own advancement

    “7) lack of empathy

    “9) envy”

    OK, why not start by asking which candidates *lack* these qualities, so we can vote for these paragons?

    1. No shit. At the end of the day, the real reason that everyone in the establishment really hates him so much is that he is the only one who gets to be just like them except he doesn’t have to wear a mask.

      1. Hey, can we come up with a list of presidents [of any country] who aren’t narcissistic? How about Governors? Anyone who knows a damn thing about the personalities of national or state chief executives knows the list is very short, and that short list is primarily composed of twits who had little capacity to lead. Think Jimmy Carter, and we know how that one worked out. [Still a narcissist though.]

        The idea that we elect narcissists isn’t surprising. They are the ones willing to stand up and say they want the job and are THE best one to do that job. All of them. But it is kinda cute that some people only think THE OTHER GUY is the narcissist, while theirs is not. See the article above as an example. Just like the guy from the other team is the only one who “abuses” power.

        As for narcissists, not the guy I want to live in the same house with, but it has it’s value in being a chief executive of pretty much anything.

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        2. Agreed. And I’d rather have a narcissist as a president who loves this country as opposed to the previous narcissist who hated it.

          1. I also agree. Sullum makes no comparisons to other presidents’ or candidates’ narcissism, nor does he discuss the pros/cons to the country of such a diagnosis for the president. Heck we could fairly describe every president in my lifetime as a “narcissistic, erratic, impulsive, mendacious, petty bully with modest intellectual abilities” except for maybe Ford who was never elected to VP or President.

            Then later he brings up the very salient fact of Biden’s mental health and how “could make” Biden “mentally unfit” for office. Narcissism doesn’t make one mentally unfit for office. IMHO, he has dementia and is unfit, yet the Democrats apparently don’t even believe dementia disqualifies Biden, which his staff is hiding by hiding Joe in the basement like families did to their mentally ill members in the past.

    2. I thought you were reciting Sullum’s credentials – – – – – – –

    3. And of,
      Trump
      Hillary Clinton
      Joe Biden
      Bernie Sanders
      Kamala Harris
      Nancy Pelosi
      Chuck Schumer
      Mitt Romney
      The Squad

      Who’s overall score is the worst? For example, #5, #6, #7, I have HRC as worst, which puts her in the catbird seat. For #9 I’d put Romney worst (McCain, if alive would be the runaway with that one). #1 seems like a pack wide photo finish. though DeBalsio, if included, would probably be the worst. And so on.

      1. Self accredited “mental-health professional” here to diagnose your list.

        Trump is a narcissist and an attention whore.
        Hillary is a narcissist and a predatory psychopath.
        Joe was a predatory sociopath, but is now a doddering stroke victim.
        Bernie is a carnival barker and confidence man.
        Kamala is a regular psychopath.
        Granny Winebox is a double-Karen and an attention whore.
        Chuck is Grima Wormtongue with delusions of grandeur.
        Mittens is a narcissist and a sociopath.
        The Squad are your average overly earnest and opinionated 14-year-old girls who’ve been listening too much to their woke drama teacher.

        1. I mean, could Unreason try psychoanalyzing Brain-Damaged Biden?

        2. No, The Squad are more like Stephen King’s _Children of the Corn._

      2. I thought Trump had a lot more empathy than most others.

    4. William Henry Harrison always makes a suitable write-in candidate.

      1. The guy who was literally too stupid to come in out of the rain?

        1. Birx: “definite covid statistic.”

        2. The guy who had the decency to retire from office after only 30 days.

          Congress and his vice-president showed their fitness for office by accepting a replacement instead of following his lead.

          1. Fuck off SQRLSY.

        3. The man had a speech to give!

    5. Correct answer: (empty set)

      1. This

    6. Yeah, it pretty much requires a big dose of narcissism to think “this country would be so much better off if I were in charge.”

      Of course, presidents aren’t supposed to be “in charge,” they’re not kings or dictators, but they certainly all seem to think of themselves as being “in charge.”

      1. Alas, over the decades much presidents have gained much more power than they are supposed to Constitutionally have! It all started with DisHonest Abe & has gotten way worse from there! Tha lst decent prez we had that understood the role of the office was Calvin Coolidge!

        1. It didn’t start with Abe (and, although he hasn’t been an ideal libertarian president, I think he’s gotten far more blame from libertarians for our current situation than he rightly deserves); it started with Washington.

          And while it went downhill from there, the actual culprits of our situation are the Roosevelts (both Teddy and Frank), Woodrow Wilson, Hoover, and the progressive voters that gave them the go-ahead by electing them. (In the case of the trio of Wilson, Taft, and Teddy, it wasn’t clear that *any* of the candidates would have left well enough alone!)

        2. nah, it was hardly out of the box before it started with the original Gdub and his whiskey tax.

    7. Well, counting from left to right, um…
      Let’s face it, narcissistic personality disorder is a prerequisite for running for political office. Some just manage to hide it better than others.

    8. I’d ask what politicians at any level of government lack those qualities. Aren’t those basically conditions for wanting the job?

    9. Those are some of Trump’s traits alright, but the really frightening material was left out. Several months ago an analyst did an evaluation of him and concluded if Trump decides that he has been betrayed by his following, he is capable of doing great harm to this country on his way out of office.

    10. Many of these qualities are present in Reason writers, in ample quantities.

    11. Exactly!

      “Normal” people don’t run for office….

    12. The Gee Oh Pee seeks the kind of individual rights women have in Iraq and Saudi Arabia. Biden the asset forfeiture prohibitionist is chosen by a party out to ban electricity and instead bring back the chattel slavery it defended in 1840. Only the LP shows any promise, if it can keep Republican and communist infiltrators from again turning the platform into a declaration of clueless incompetence. Amash is a superstitious, girl-bullying Republican loser, like the creature in Nebraska who infiltrated us and was quickly voted out.

    13. Trump is the best example of all all of them.

      You’re just trying to make excuses for him because you know he is the best example.

  2. Donald Trump is the most libertarian capitalist president we’ve had since before World War II, and he’s the only thing standing between us and the authoritarian socialism of his adversaries.

    As a libertarian capitalist, I have never been more certain about who I would vote for in November and why.

    1. More so than Reagan, you think?

      In foreign policy you could argue that Reagan was more bellicose. However at the time, the Soviet Union was a true existential threat needing containing, compared to threats today. Trump probably wins here, but it is close. A true apples to apples comparison is Trump’s killing of Solemanadingdong vs Reagan’s attempted attack on Ghadaffi.

      But at the domestic level, Reagan seemed much more interested in the free market. And he certainly had a much more consistent message starting with his radio addresses as governor of CA. He also was more pro immigration. Trump has been decent on regulations- though the government is so much worse there.

      1. The ways in which Trump was libertarian and capitalist are a lot like the ways that Reagan was–especially in his pragmatic foreign policy. Trump pulling us out from the brink of a quagmire in Syria is reminiscent of Reagan pulling us out of a quagmire in Lebanon.

        Reagan deserves a tremendous amount of credit for destroying the USSR, especially with his Pershing missile deployments in western Europe, turning his back on Gorbachev in Reykjavik, and putting a tremendous amount of pressure on the USSR’s expansion efforts in Afghanistan and elsewhere.

        Where Trump gets the edge, in my estimation, is that Trump has repeatedly attempted to slash Medicaid. No one has tried to slash a Great Society entitlement spending program like that before–and Trump deserves a tremendous amount of credit for fighting for that. . . . even if he also deserves criticism for his trade war among other things.

        Reagan deserves a fair amount of criticism, too, and I should probably add that saying either one of them were the best president since before World War II is probably a low bar. Certainly, the two presidents just before Trump were profoundly incompetent.

      2. Reagan prioritized the fight against communism.

        Makes it hard to compare across eras.

        1. Also ramped up the WOD. Trump seems less interested.

          1. And wasn’t very gun-friendly, but I suppose that’s a wash with the bump stock about face.

            1. The bump stock thing was throwing a bone aimed at swing thinkers on the issue, knowing it could very well be struck down judicially and that it has very little effect on gun owners.

              1. Yeah, it was more about taking the wind out of the sails of a new push by the gun grabbers.

              2. No, it was him listening to the NRA, which has rarely missed a chance to fuck Ugly Black Rifle shooters and their ilk, if that’ll mean state governments won’t take a look at their Fudd Directors ownership of duck guns, deer guns, C&R crap, or the Garands they shoot HighPower with. Never mind the AR-15 has been the rifle of choice in HighPower for what, 20 years now?

                Throwing bumpstock shooters out of the lifeboat was an easy choice for them, and Trump’s not a gun guy. He listens to who he thinks are the experts on an issue, and the NRA was thought to be popular and the experts on gun rights for a large part of his base.

                1. The No was meant for Roberta’s point. I agree with Mom in that it was trying to shut down gun ban advocates.

                  Which is a mistake. These people think compromise means they only get half of what they want this time. You get nothing, and they’ll be back for the rest soon. But Trump isn’t Cruz on this issue, and honestly, Cruz probably would have buckled too.

                2. WAS. The NRA’s getting replaced by other groups.

        2. “Reagan prioritized the fight against communism.

          Makes it hard to compare across eras.”

          I dunno, Trump is getting his opportunity to deal with the CCP, we’ll see if he can stay in office long enough for us to see how that works out. Of course, the alternative is not pretty, with Biden and his boy making off with a billion and a half smackaroos in return for a sweet for CCP trade deal.

          The best thing Trump has done is still not fully implemented, it was Laffer’s idea: transparency in medical pricing that requires competition among providers.

    2. “…he’s the only thing standing between us and the authoritarian socialism of his adversaries.”

      And you are right, no matter how much of a narcissist he may be [is]. Problem is roughly half the country seem to actually want an authoritarian, if only to stick it to the rest of us; by the time the worm turns on them, it will of course be too late.

      1. True authoritarianism requires a narcissism that increases in direct proportion to the level of control. It’s ironic that those who label Trump as a narcissistic dictator prefer a system that vastly increases government control at a level that would rival China, IF Xi Jinping gave a damn what you ate.

    3. Wasn’t Trump a New York democrat before he switched parties to run as president? Even his stance on tariffs shows him to be far from capitalist and even libertarian. Of course, in November, we’ll have the choice of voting for the lesser of two evils … which is still a vote for evil.

      1. Again, I’m not saying he’s a libertarian capitalist–only that he’s far more so than the other presidents we’ve had for a long time. I’m also adding that we can’t ignore the alternatives when we judge him. The alternative is far, far less libertarian and less capitalist than Trump.

        P.S. Ronald Reagan was also a Democrat.

      2. His stance on tariffs… you mean agreeing to have zero tariffs if the trade partner agrees to zero tariffs?

        We really need to stop with the retaliatory tariffs as non libertarian. At some point a bad actor has to have some negative action to dissuade future bad actions.

        1. Indeed. I would also add that with China’s behavior that resulted in this coronavirus crisis, and the problems that we have had with so much of our supply chain based in China, we should be looking at diversifying our supply lines away from China. Tariffs are one way to push the supply chain in that direction.

          I believe that it was in “Economics in One Lesson” that observed that, while economically, it’s best to do away with tariffs, there can be other reasons why tariffs are still needed.

    4. Trump is not libertarian at all in rhetoric, but in actual track record, he has been the most libertarian President in my lifetime.

      I voted for Gary Johnson in 2016, but will likely vote for Trump in 2020.

      The Democrats have gone far left socialist totalitarian, making this decision an easy one.

    5. So sayeth the Republican infiltrator selling mystical monarchic prohibitionist mercantilism. I voted for Ron Roentgen because the 1980 LP was overrun with child molesters, communist anarchists and Freeze and surrender sissies. The LP recovered some cojones with an OK 2016 platform and got twice the downballot votes as our over 4 million in the Prez campaign. Today the same flotsam is again infiltrating the LP, so work at the state and county level and not a penny to a Republican war on women takeover.

    6. Yes, yes, a thousand times yes.

      Trump 2020; because he’s NOT a progressive.

  3. An entire article dedicating to pathetically gargling Amash’s ball bag without once describing a single worthy fucking thing he has done in his entire political career.

    1. He is a magician.
      He changed a Republican into an Independent, then he changed an Independent into a Libertarian.
      He is rumored to be learning how to turn a Libertarian into a winner, but has not yet found the secret.

      1. He is rumored to be learning how to turn a Libertarian into a winner, but has not yet found the secret.

        Pretty sure the secret is “don’t be a Libertarian.”

        The vast majority of the country ain’t buying what we’re selling.

      2. chuckle

      3. So he’s a political alchemist

        1. His alchemical skills my be wanting.

      4. A libertarian winner is one who says NO to girl-bullying GOP infiltrators. We WIN by getting enough spoiler votes, like 4 to 12 %, to whop the kleptocracy with until they repeal cruel laws. Selling out to fakes like Ron Paul turns women against us and results in less than half a percent of the vote.

    2. He has something few Republicans these days have, character and integrity.

      He called out Trump’s obstruction of the Mueller investigation, 11 instances, as an impeachable offence, and it was.

  4. Amash is not electable. Does the LP even have ballot access in all states? Hate Trump all you want but he’s still better than Biden.

    1. A low bar to be sure.

    2. He’s better than Amash too.
      But Amash says he’s libertarian and has mostly voted, completely ineffectively while leeching off taxpayers for a decade, in a vaguely libertarian direction, +oRaNgEmaNbAD… so shallow bitches and reflexively progressive “libertarian” ideologues will prostrate themselves before him like he’s their messiah

      1. There are plenty of people who will vote for the LP regardless of who the candidate is because it doesn’t matter who the candidate it. It’s a protest vote and they have no chance at the national level. Who they run is irrelevant. People vote LP because they want another option.

        1. Amen! And so I will vote Libertarian! Because I can NOT find a clothespin strong enough to staunch the putrid smell of the DeRps!

          For anyone doubting the narcissism of the Trumptatorshit, I give you this!

          Quotes from The Donald in the “Anti Gravity” column in August 2017 “Scientific American” magazine follow:
          “I have great genes and all that stuff, which I’m a believer in”,
          “God helped me by giving me a certain brain”,
          “I have a very, very high aptitude”,
          “Maybe it’s just something you have. You know, you have the winning gene.”
          Google the quotes, they are real…

          Looking at the above quotes from The Orange Hitler should make his vast, overwhelmingly narcissistic ego clear to all. Compare and contrast these above quotes with a quote from the real Hitler, and… Can you see any crack of daylight between the overall spirits of the two mentalities?

          “Who is to say that I am not especially favored by God”? -Adolf Hitler (I can NOT find this quote!!!)

          chemjeff radical individualist
          September.17.2019 at 8:40 pm
          https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/10/04/17-issues-that-donald-trump-knows-better-than-anyone-else-according-to-donald-trump/
          Trump:
          “I know more about renewables than any human being on Earth.”
          “I understand social media. I understand the power of Twitter. I understand the power of Facebook maybe better than almost anybody, based on my results, right?”
          “Nobody knows more about debt. I’m like the king. I love debt.”
          “I understand money better than anybody.”
          “I think nobody knows the system better than I do.”
          “I know more about contributions than anybody.”
          “Nobody knows more about trade than me.”
          “Nobody knows jobs like I do! ”
          “Nobody in the history of this country has ever known so much about infrastructure as Donald Trump.”
          “There’s nobody bigger or better at the military than I am.”
          “I know more about ISIS [the Islamic State militant group] than the generals do. Believe me.”
          “There is nobody who understands the horror of nuclear more than me.”
          “Because nobody knows the system better than me. I know the H1B. I know the H2B. Nobody knows it better than me.”

          1. Echospinner
          September.17.2019 at 9:08 pm
          And don’t forget the other things he is expert in.
          Technology: I know tech better than anyone, & technology.” —December 21, 2018, Twitter
          Forest fires : There is no reason for these massive, deadly and costly forest fires in California except that forest management is so poor. Billions of dollars are given each year, with so many lives lost, all because of gross mismanagement of the forests. Remedy now, or no more Fed payments!” —November 10, 2018, Twitter
          Airplane design: Airplanes are becoming far too complex to fly. Pilots are no longer needed, but rather computer scientists from MIT
          You can go on an on, catapults on aircraft carriers, the Kentucky Derby…
          When it comes to geniuses the man is a regular Wyle E Coyote.

          end quote

          The list of Trump narcissistic ego is enough to sicken sensible humans and other entities, throughout the know universe!

          1. Speaking of people with psychiatric disorders.

            1. Yes, that’s right, here is R Mac! Right on cue!

              PLEASE tell us all about psychiatric disorders! You, if anyone, should know all about them!

              They say that a fingerling flounder is hatched with eyes on both sides of its head, but that as it matures, one eye moves to the other side of the fish’s head, so that both eyes are on one side. WHO really knows about the growing pains of a flounder? Only a flounder!

              So PLEASE tell us about psychiatric disorders!

              1. You are manic with psychotic features. Take your meds already and stop bothering people.

                1. You’re fully authorized to NOT read my stuff and stuff, and stuffy stuff!

                  Truth hurts, doesn’t it? Maybe you could start ASSIMILATING the truth, instead of merely letting it bother you? Could you give that a try, for once? THEN the truth might stop bothering you!

                  1. Ah…. another one of those who prefers truth over actual facts. And yes, that’s me laughing at your ass. Your mom has dinner ready, so run along.

                    1. Simple quiz for you, which of the two below sounds more like the truth to you:

                      THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO TRUMP:
                      We can pussy-grab all of the people, all of the time, and NO ONE will EVER be smart enough to catch on to us, and our pussy-grabbing self-centeredness and self-righteousness, and so NO ONE will ever-ever think of pussy-grabbing us right back! “Karma” and “you reap what you sew” and “what comes around, goes around”, have ALL been revoked! Praises Be to the Stable Genius of the Trumptatorship!

                      THE GOSPEL ACCORDING TO ALL CONSCIOUS AND CONSCIENTIOUS, SENSIBLE SOCIAL BEINGS EVERYWHERE:
                      We can pussy-grab all of the people, some of the time, and we can pussy-grab some of the people, all of the time, but we can NOT pussy-grab all of the people, all of the time! We are NOT the most righteous and smart people in the universe!

                    2. Go take your meds, Sqrls.

          2. “Who is to say that I am not especially favored by God”? -Adolf Hitler (I can NOT find this quote!!!)

            You sure you’re not referring to King Charles XII of Sweden?

            1. https://www.azquotes.com/author/23836-Charles_XII_of_Sweden

              I just looked. Couldn’t find it. I am interested in this! I saw the quote a billion years ago in “Omni” magazine, as being by Hitler. I guess Omni lied!

              If you know more, please let me know! Thanks!

              1. I loved Omni back in the day. It was brought back a few years ago online, but they only did a few issues.

          3. Renewables…investment is actually up during the trump admin now that he removed all the bullshit DOE subsidies that were basically “picking winners” that were actually losers, like solindra and first solar.

            Twitter…he used to boost his profile and election campaign more effectively than any politician in history.

            Debt…given his business history of ups and downs, and although being highly successful, having gone through several bankruptcies probably does mean he knows a lot about debt.

            Money…hes a billionaire nuf said

            The system…see above

            Contributions…owning large businesses would give you lots of experiences with employees retirements

            Trade…he is the first guy to alter trade deals with many of our partners and thus far they’re all looking better than the previous iterations of the deals. Minor hiccups one some stuff with China, but on aggregate were better off in almost every sector pre covid.

            Jobs…he’s employed more people in America than all but .000001% of the population. Meaning big business owners.

            Infrastructure…building buildings of concrete or roads of concrete is basically the same concept, but roads are much easier.

            Military…He reinvested in new technology and shifted focus to forward looking missions and technology. Massive investment + space force

            Isis…he was probably wrong here. But he still knows more than the Muslim brotherhood sympathizer we formerly had in office.

            Nuclear…this is a tossup, but trump is allowing nuclear power development to continue which is great after it was stifled under previous admins. I know because i own stock in the company currently building or first nuke plant since the 80s.

            Visas…when you hire as many international employees as his international business do, yes you would be very familiar with the visa program and know much more about it than any democrat in congress.

            Tech…see the reply about twitter. Also his numerous other social media platforms.

            Forest fires…hes dead on. The forest fires were a result of the department of forestry being unable to remove underbrush due to environmentalist objections in California.

            So again squirlsy…youre proven to be a fraud who relies on his schtick and formulaic wording as a crutch because the content of your posts are mostly opinionated garbage.

            1. Well, except that Trump didn’t claim he knows more about these things than some people, or a lot of people, or most people, he claimed he’s the world’s foremost expert on all these things.

              Of course, it’s hard to call Trump a liar just because he says so many ridiculous things, it’s the fact that he says so many ridiculous things that you know he doesn’t actually expect anybody to take this stuff seriously. It’d be like me claiming to be the King of Portugal, the secret author of all the works of Shakespeare and the reigning world champion kickboxer. And you can ask my wife, Morgan Fairchild.

              But the question is, when is Trump being serious and when is he being “sarcastic”? For example, was the “building a big, beautiful wall from coast to coast and Mexico’s going to pay for it” an actual promise or was it sarcasm? And if it was an actual promise, is a few hundred miles of fencing close enough?

              See, here’s the thing – Trump is a world-class bullshitter, he’s a used car salesman, a huckster, a con man, a carnival barker. He talks people into believing shit even he doesn’t believe. Like all the shit you just listed that you believe, I’ll bet you believe he’s a great deal-maker, too. Where the fuck did anybody get the idea Trump’s a great deal-maker? Because Trump told you he was? Yeah, he fucking bullshitted and conned you into believing that shit, too. Trump’s idea of a great deal is one that’s great for Trump, and if you thought you were getting anything out of the deal, well, you just got an education in trusting a con man and he didn’t even charge you for the lesson. You want an example of a Trump deal? “Love me or hate me, you gotta vote for me.” Trump can be as big a shithead as he wants, just long as he’s a little less of a shithead than the Dems. Trump knows he’s got you over a barrel, he’s in his element. He ain’t cutting you any deals, you’ve got no leverage. You’re going to get fucked and you’re going to like it. Because what else can you do?

              1. This might be true if none of his policies benefitted me, or the country at large. But they did.

                If saving me nearly 10k per year on taxes and getting 2 constitutional justices on the SC is “getting fucked” then please keep the fucking coming!

        2. Did that since Harry Browne. Not doing it again. After Johnson/Weld I’m done with these clowns. Trump is the lesser of evils by any rational libertarian measure his “mental disorder” notwithstanding.

    3. No LP candidate is electable in a kleptocracy subsidized by the Nixon anti-libertarian law. No socialist or prohibition party candidate was either, but their less than 2% of the vote injected the communist income tax into the Constitution and miraculously made beer an addictive felony narcotic. To them, pointing guns in our faces was WINNING, just like it is to the GOP and Dems. To us, spoiler votes that frighten the cowards into repealing cruel laws are wins that increase freedom and trash coercion. They count the votes, but we repeal their laws.

  5. In 2016, I would have voted for anyone OTHER THAN SATAN INCARNATE, aka Hillary R. Clinton.

    All the Dems have to do is put someone not mentally impaired on the ballot. Sigh. It’s like they are trying to lose.

    1. They went with the candidate who was the least of the social justice warriors, the least of the Medicare for All proponents, and the least of the candidates who supported the Green New Deal.

      Biden is still beholden to social justice warriors, Medicare for All proponents, and supporters of the Green New Deal–and that is an excellent reason to vote for President Trump.

      What did they teach us in Econ 101–that opportunity cost is the highest valued forgone alternative? I didn’t vote in 2016, but if the Democrats want to not vote for Trump this time, they’ll need to convince me that he isn’t the only thing holding them back from implementing the worst raft of policies and programs we’ve ever seen.

      In other words, it isn’t about Trump per se. As the Democrats become increasingly authoritarian and socialist, it is reasonable for libertarians and capitalists to become increasingly Republican.

      Meanwhile, President Trump has done a really good job on some things–like withdrawing our troops out of harm’s way in Syria rather than committing us to another war.

      1. I’m not really sure they went with “the least of”, unless one is looking at intellectual capacity. Hell, Biden just showed up with his plan for COVID, about 3 months late.

        That aside from the luxury of having an opinion that doesn’t really matter and it all based on hyperbole and…. “Oh wait, I just saw a little girl with shiny hair. [sniff sniff]. Pretty! And we haven’t uh, the constitution since the Civil War man, with Margaret Thatcher while we were on a train… and that’s what I know. And I told that gangster Corn Pop just so, and he ran off and doesn’t bother anymore.”

    2. How dare you insult Satan.

  6. Given the nature of our electoral process, only a narcissist who makes impossible promises could possibly win the presidency. An honest humble person? Electoral roadkill. So don’t act so shocked.

  7. https://twitter.com/ByronYork/status/1258490130211442690

    From court papers: During transition, top Justice Department official Sally Yates learned about the Flynn-Kislyak phone call from President Obama himself. She was surprised.

    1. https://thefederalist.com/2020/05/08/obama-biden-oval-office-meeting-on-january-5-was-key-to-entire-anti-trump-operation/#.XrWjhYynQOZ.twitter

      January 5: Yates, Comey, CIA Director John Brennan, and Director of National Intelligence James Clapper briefed Obama on Russia-related matters in the Oval Office. Biden and Rice also attended. After the Obama briefing, the intelligence chiefs who would be leaving at the end of the term were dismissed and Yates and Comey, who would continue in the Trump administration, were asked to stay. Not only did Obama give his guidance about how to perpetuate the Russia collusion theory investigations, he also talked about Flynn’s conversations with Russian Ambassador Sergey Kislyak, according to both Comey and Yates. Interestingly, Clapper, Comey, and Yates all said that they did not brief Obama about these phone calls. Clapper testified he did not brief Obama on the calls, Yates learned about the calls from Obama himself during that meeting, and Comey also testified he didn’t brief Obama about the calls, even though the intelligence was an FBI product. Rice, who publicly lied but later admitted under oath to her widespread use of unmasked intelligence at the end of the Obama administration, likely briefed Obama on the calls and would have had access to the intelligence. Comey mentions the Logan Act at this meeting.

      1. Shackford needs to read this. He made an ass of himself yesterday.

        1. But he won’t until it appears in Vox.

          1. Hey, dont be hard on shackleford, he also gets news from his inner twitter circle.

            1. Twitter is the most aptly named social media service. Their users are twits.

              Only twits tweet.

      2. This will also impale amash’s chances considering he was all aboard the Russia and Ukraine hoax trains. I think i saw amash on the back of the Choo Choo diarama down at the science center last week.

  8. I know, since 2016 we have been told we are all going to die in some terrible way because the orange man is President. There will not be a recognizable country left. There will be a series of wars, each worse than the last. The Supreme Court and rule of law will be gone forever. The economy will be ruined.
    Yet here we all are.

    1. Trump brought a pestilence upon the land!

      1. And the word of the Trump came to me, saying, “CNN, if a land sins against Me by acting unfaithfully, and I stretch out My hand against it to cut off its supply of food, to send famine upon it, and to cut off from it both man and beast.

        Or if I bring WW3 against that land and say, ‘Let a sword pass through it,’ so that I cut off from it both man and beast.

        Or if I send a plague into that land and pour out my wrath upon it through lockdowns, cutting off from it both man and beast.

        For this is what the Trump says: ‘How much worse will it be when I send against Washington DC my four dire judgments—sword, famine, wild beasts, and plague—in order to cut off from it both man and beast?

        1. Alas! Their hearts are hardened!

          For the Tyrant spake thus, “Who is the Trump that I should obey His voice and let these States go?”

          1. And there shall in that time be rumors of things going astray, and there will be a great confusion as to where things really are, and nobody will really know where lieth those little things with the sort of raffia work base, that has an attachment…at this time, a friend shall lose his friend’s hammer and the young shall not know where lieth the things possessed by their fathers that their fathers put there only just the night before around eight o’clock…

    2. Well he did start WW3 a couple of months ago. Only one fatality so far.

      1. I thought we were up to WW6 already. I’m pretty sure I heard Dems telling of one with China, another with NK, one over moving the embassy to Jerusalem, and one with Mexico and probably Canada too.

    3. Hmmm…
      • Dying in some terrible ways: Check
      • Economy ruined: Check
      • Rule of law gone: Mostly check
      • Country unrecognizable: Check
      • Series of wars: Unchecked
      • Supreme Court gone: Unchecked
      Hey, 2/3 ain’t bad.

      1. • Dying in some terrible ways: Check -bullshit
        • Economy ruined: Check- bullshit
        • Rule of law gone: Mostly check – bullshit
        • Country unrecognizable: Check – bullshit
        Hey, 4 of 4 lies is about typical for TDS victims.

      2. Lol, what the fuck.
        Are you seriously blaming Trump for governors shutting down their states economies, and the Dems stopping any travel restrictions with China because racism?

  9. Trump will be reelected, I’m pretty sure.

    I will continue to vote my conscience, which usually means writing in my own name.

    1. I gave up. Got tired of seeing election results being the inverse of my ballot.

      1. As if you haven’t been voting straight (D) since Tammany Hall.

        1. It isnt his fault. You said mean things about him causing him to become this!

      2. I gave up because ultimately, the lesser of two evils is no choice at all.

    2. To follow the herd, you need to vote for an old white guy; May I suggest Willie Nelson?

    3. Probably so. Whatever happens, the country will survive. That fact won’t stop people from pretending it won’t because doing so gives them a sense of self importance. Sullumn will be miserable if he is. So, there is always that upside if nothing else.

    4. Zeb, do you have what it takes to be President? Are you (from the article) a narcissistic, erratic, impulsive, mendacious, petty bully with modest intellectual abilities?

  10. We Don’t Need a Psychiatric Diagnosis To Assess the President’s Obvious Faults
    No amount of psychoanalyzing can disguise the grim choice facing voters this fall.

    No one has made a psychiatric diagnosis of Trump. Their own guidelines tell you that you can’t do so without first hand interaction with the patient.

    1. I know. However, many psychiatrists have done so publicly. Doing so is not only active malpractice and should be reported to their licensing board, but as Sullim says, it actively harmful to their case.

      Finally, you cannot diagnose someone on their public persona. That’s what Trump is. A public persona. Putting on a razzle-dazzle, if you forgive the Chicago quote. Without personal knowledge and access to inner thoughts, this is like psychoanalyzing Hannibal Lecter and then applying the diagnosis to Anthony Hopkins.

  11. His assessment of Donald Trump as a narcissistic, erratic, impulsive, mendacious, petty bully with modest intellectual abilities is familiar and, I think, essentially accurate.

    Sure. I don’t disagree. But it also describes every President in my lifetime barring, maybe, Carter and Ford.

    1. Carter was a narcissistic smug asshole.

      1. *is*?

        1. He has had six months to live for like ten years now. His life has become one long “last change at savings” going out of business sale.

          1. my brother built a house w/him like maybe 25-28 years ago he was ancient then

      2. Carter was indeed a smug asshole. Proved when he knew he was failing miserably and suddenly pronounced the job “too big for one man”. Because apparently if HE couldn’t do it, nobody can.

      3. Is now, but he really wasn’t back then.

    2. I think Trump is all of that, except for the “modest intellectual abilty” part.

  12. My take on Trump is I don’t personally like him but I like a lot of his policies. I don’t do twitter nor facebook but sometimes wish he would tamp down on the tweets a bit, however do like that he is the only president since Reagan to at least attempt to get us out of the middle east. As someone who lives in Texas I see the plus and minus of illegal immigration, they are one of the reasons our housing market is so much more reasonable than farther north but at the same time they undercut citizens out of the market. Don’t see the border wall making a huge difference it is just a way for him to contrast between his policies and the dem’s, they think they are making themselves look so good stopping him at every turn but when nothing gets done with illegals he can point at them and say see I tried but they stopped me. On free trade, trade with China has never been free has it, I would be all for it if they really opened up and let trade go both ways but that is not the case. You gotta break some eggs to make an omelet, just wish the dem’s would stop with their obstructionism, it makes the Chinese think, well all we gotta do is wait this guy out and then it is back to usual, was it this bad back in the 90’s…I can’t remember.

    As for Biden, there is nothing I like about this guy, not his personality, not his policies. Did like Gabbard but new there was no way she would get the nod.

    1. “As for Biden, there is nothing I like about this guy, not his personality, not his policies.”
      Right. And there is less than a 50% chance he could serve a full term so you’re gonna get whichever woman ends up as his VP pick. And it won’t be Tulsi.

    2. My money is on Stacey Abrams. She’s everything he could want in a running mate. Black, female, happy to have her hair sniffed, and one of the few who can make Uncle Joe feel reeel smart. The alternative to Stacy, also a Georgia eggplant, Hank [midget fighter] Johnson.

      1. His own campaign committee has been badmouthing Abrams. They are not happy with her blatant maneuvering.

        1. What’s a swing state they need, and who’s a decent candidate that ticks all of their gender and racial boxes? Governor Jenner, the Tyrant, might have been one if she wasn’t going so gleefully Full Hitler with her edicts. I keep mentioning Val Demings from Florida, but I don’t think she’s high profile enough. Abrams is a road, and probably can’t give him Georgia. Synema from Arizona? AZ is unfortunately probably in play. Anyone from NC, WI, or PA?

          1. Toad, not road.

            What would they have to offer Michelle Obama to try for the job? Being told their asses will get prosecuted Trump’s second term if he wins?

  13. Trump is acting as a “litmus test” for principles. If you turn orange when exposed, you haven’t any.

  14. 1) a grandiose sense of self-importance

    2) a preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love

    3) a belief that one is special or unique and can be understood only by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people

    4) demands for excessive admiration

    5) a sense of entitlement

    6) taking advantage of others for one’s own advancement

    7) lack of empathy

    I thought this was supposed to be about Trump and not a run down of the results of the recent personality test given to the staff.

    The amount of projection going on here is epic. Sullumn and pretty much everyone at reason are giant self important assholes. They get paid to pontificate about things they know little or often nothing about. How could they not be?

    1. For a libertarian publication, the columnists are remarkably…progressive.

  15. Look at how we treat Presidents in the United States. The media, the opposition party, and the everyday citizen commenting online.
    You have to be a narcissist or sociopath to even consider running for President. Then we complain when we get a narcissist or sociopath.
    Go figure.

    1. The few people I have ever truly wanted to give the presidency have never had an intention to touch it with a ten foot pole.

      General Powell specifically, would have been a far better president than Bush. However, he was done with politics after one term as Secretary of State.

      1. He also probably didn’t want to handle questions about how he was one of the first officers at headquarters to try and bury the My Lai Massacre.

        I’d have preferred him to W or Clinton though.

  16. >>And while a President Amash might be no more than a pleasant fantasy

    you should have a buddy check your posts before they are posts.

    1. Amish would only let the FBI spy on the bad people who need to be spied on. Sullumn just wants his top men to take control and run things. Is that so wrong?

      1. lol Top. Men.

  17. I suppose I too might feel a bit self important if my name was on top of a bunch of buildings and I beat the most qualified candidate ever first time running for president.

    1. People like Sullumn cannot forgive Trump for being more successful and important than they are. Trump is crude and low class and Sullumn sees himself as an intellectual and important. The fact that Trump is a billionaire and holds the most powerful office in the world and Sullumn is a piss ant carnival barker is just unforgivable. Trump must be hated because the world doesn’t recognize the importance of people like Sullumn. They really are that narcissistic and shallow.

      1. Trump is crude and low class because he has been working with NY contractors and politicians his whole life

        1. Trump is, at heart, a regular dude.
          He likes broads, boxing, football, fried chicken, and (I assume) Die Hard.
          He’s made a boatload of money and put it to use doing things lots of regular people would probably do in the same position, and he’s come to embrace regular people as his soul-peers.
          He likes them.
          And those that have to live their lives every day making sure that they couldn’t possibly be mistaken for… one of them… can’t help but be offended at his success.
          He bursts the bubble of their conceit, and proves just how superficial their airs are

          1. Well put!

  18. i am still loving the T Administration.

  19. The diagnosis of a “personality disorder” requires that the personality traits consistently cause negative or undesirable consequences or distress in the patient’s life.

    Agent Orange may be a narcissistic sonofabitch, but it’s hard to argue that he has been unsuccessful or thwarted in his personal goals. Millions have been harmed, thwarted, and/or distressed due to Trump’s personality traits. Not one of them is Trump.

    The problem with Trump is systemic and political, not psychiatric.

    1. Millions huh? Personally, I would have gone for “the billions” like 20 billion or something. Then again I tend to think bigger I suppose. Maybe the depopulation of Jupiter or something.

      1. You know Jupiter used to have it really going on. Now look at it. Just a mess.

    2. “Millions have been harmed, thwarted, and/or distressed due to Trump’s personality traits. Not one of them is Trump.”

      Your TDS ate your cite; you’re full of shit.

      1. LOL – You’re actually asking for a cite on the fact that millions of people have been harmed, thwarted, and/or distressed? Here’s 65,853,516 of them. Your TDS has eaten your brain and you can’t even think straight. You need help.

        1. Shitstain, stuff your TDS up your ass, so your head has some company.

        2. No wonder we’re drowning in sweet, salty Prog tears. And another 60 million due this fall. I can’t wait!

        3. Surely someone should have mentioned the American Psychiatric Association’s Goldwater rule, after Republican candidate Barry Goldwater. The rule forbids psychiatrists from diagnosing someone they havent tested or counseled in person, or something similar to that.

  20. a narcissistic, erratic, impulsive, mendacious, petty bully with modest intellectual abilities

    But enough about Joe Biden.

    1. I think at this point, Biden has negligible intellect.

  21. US government employees deserve the worst boss they can get, whether they work for the ‘defense’ department, the IC, or HHS.

    US government contractors and employees also deserve to go bankrupt or lose their jobs.

    I don’t know anyone other than Trump who could give these people what they richly deserve.

  22. Democratic elections select for all those characteristics. You couldn’t have it any other way, and the larger the polity the more pronounced the tendencies — except for lack of empathy, for which the opposite is selected and which I don’t see in Trump at all.

    But this is also true of pretty much all jobs for which there is a high ratio of applicants to hires.

  23. I don’t need to know if President Trump is mentally ill. The fact is he is incompetent and unable to run a government. This is enough to know we need to change leadership. Biden is too old but so is Trump. So I will vote for Biden and then some youngster in 2024.

    1. The fact is he is you are incompetent and unable to run a government think clearly..

    2. “…The fact is he is incompetent and unable to run a government…”
      You.
      Are.
      Full.
      Of.
      Shit.

    3. Mod…I will be voting differently. But show up and vote. That matters.

      1. “…But show up and vote. That matters…”

        Bullshit.

      2. I agree with your sentiments, that people vote is really more important than who they vote for in the election.

  24. Biden and Trump are your choices. Suck it up. “…comfortable trusting either of them to preside over the federal government”

  25. Reality Check “First and foremost, Hitler saw the State as the ideal form of social organization; managed by people dedicated to making it finer and stronger. Wrong! He failed totally to get his premise right, i.e., that individual humans each own themselves, and should interact only when and how each wishes to do so – in what we call the “market.” This fundamental error he shares with all who favor the continuing existence of government. Thus, at root, every politician is a Nazi.” From: http://strike-the-root.com/monster-in-making

  26. “…The most commonly suggested psychiatric label for Trump is “narcissistic personality disorder,” which is diagnosed based on five or more of these eight criteria:
    1) a grandiose sense of self-importance
    2) a preoccupation with fantasies of unlimited success, power, brilliance, beauty, or ideal love
    3) a belief that one is special or unique and can be understood only by, or should associate with, other special or high-status people
    4) demands for excessive admiration
    5) a sense of entitlement
    6) taking advantage of others for one’s own advancement
    7) lack of empathy
    8) envy…”

    Which one of these conditions lead to Kavanaugh’s and DeVos’s selection? We need more of it.
    Anyone who has spent time around really successful people will laugh at these supposedly disqualifying anyone from any position; see, for example, Steve Jobs.
    What they show quite clearly is Sullum’s raging case of TDS.

    1. Simmer down, Sally, Sullum was quoting George Conway, he even put the “unfitness for office” in quotes to show he didn’t think much of the idea, and in fact, he actually wrote an entire article snorting at the idea that your Lord and Savior Donald J Trump could be reliably be diagnosed at a distance. It’s only your own insane TDS that makes you think any criticism of Dear Leader is a sure sign of TDS. You really need to get some help.

      By the way, Trump is old and fat and has some fucked-up hair thing going on. Think about that for a moment. Trump is old and fat and has some fucked-up hair thing going on. Can you accept that? Does it fill you with rage to hear somebody say “Trump is old and fat and has some fucked-up hair thing going on”? Because it’s true, Trump is old and fat and has some fucked-up hair thing going on. If it pains you fiercely to hear it, if you think it’s blasphemy of the worst sort, you’ve got the TDS too, just the same as the people you’re criticizing for having TDS.

      Sure, it pains me to see many or most of the staff here criticizing Trump from the angle that he’s somehow uniquely bad and suggesting that perhaps some other shitweasel politician might be better at this government thing when the plain simple truth is that all politicians are shitweasels and government is always and everywhere the enemy, but it pains me just as much to see members of the commentariat here claiming that Trump isn’t like all the others and truly he is the One who shall lead us to the Promised Land. Trump’s a politician, he’s a big part of government, he’s a shitweasel and the enemy. “Not as bad as cancer” is no reason to cheer for leprosy. All y’all motherfuckers are cheering for Top Men as far as I’m concerned.

      1. “…your Lord and Savior Donald J Trump…”

        Simmer down, shitstain, and stuff your TDS up your ass so your head has some company.

  27. Trump may be all those things like all politicians at least he doesn’t have dementia and i want to see all those same psychologist opinion on Biden. And if its not in the negative it will only confirm their opinion of Trump was political and not scientific nit that there is much science in psychology anyway

  28. No amount of psychoanalyzing can disguise the grim choice facing voters this fall.

    To vote, or not to vote?

    1. To watch baseball when every pitcher will have to pitch to at least 3 batters!

  29. Trump’s mental instability and broad ignorance baffles so many because of his skill in building his cult of personality. What Trump is is an insect. In his famous quote about an ideal of human competence Heinlein said that “…specialization is for insects.” Trump has specialized so completely in self-promotion that he has no other skills, nor even thoughts. Trump is an insect – a very poisonous insect.

    1. Shut the fuck up skidmark.

    2. The one thing that Trump is really good at is bullshitting and the proof of that is that so many people believe his bullshit about how great he is at so many other things.

      1. Trump puts the bully in bully pulpit.

        And that’s just what we need!

        1. Speaking for yourself I assume.

  30. You know, one thing I have not seen anyone comment upon: Mr. Conway is being a prize shit, threatening Mrs. Conway’s livelihood. What the fuck kind of husband does that to his wife? Seriously.

    Kellyanne Conway engineered the greatest upset in political history. She accomplished that with grit, brains, and determination. I would have thought feminists would lionize Ms. Conway, just on the basis of accomplishment alone. Alas, this has not been the case.

    But back to Mr. Conway….the man is trashing his wife’s boss, and making her unbelievably stressful and demanding job that much more difficult. Say what you want about POTUS Trump, but you have to wonder what kind of man guy shits all over his wife’s boss publicly and threatens her job. That ain’t right.

    1. He’s also unwittingly describing himself, beyond being merely a colossal douchebag.

    2. They are scripted as reruns of the 90’s characters carville and matilin. It was cute back then and it is hoped cute now.

  31. That list of indicators comes straight out of the DSM. The problem with the DSM is that diagnostic characteristics get altered or sometimes dropped which each new addition for reasons that tie back to culture rather than medicine.

    A prime example: at one time, homosexuality was considered a mental illness. It has not be classified that way for years. More recently, nymphomania and styriasis were removed.

    A handy rule of thumb most ethical practitioners apply for every kind of mental health system is to ask whether or not a peculiarity causes actual severe dysfunction in a person’s life. That’s why there is a difference between a drinker and an alcoholic.

    There’s also not much doubt that hallucinations and delusions are associated with mental illness, but we don’t routinely institutionalize ghost hunters or Flat Earth Society members. That is because as long as they can live their lives and are not harming themselves or others, they are just cranks and not certifiably crazy.

    1. *with each new edition* damned spell check and lack of an edit button.

    2. Correct which is why it takes years of learning and practice to achieve proficiency in psychiatry. Psychiatrists must be grounded in neurology and physical medicine. Old aphorism “what are the first three things in the differential for any psych consult? Organic, organic and organic” . The psychiatry boards are actually one of the most difficult to pass and that is for those qualified to even take them.

      Just picking up a list like that is worthless. For example, today Little Richard passed away. A terrific legendary performer and musical icon. You could find nearly all of those traits in him. Was he mentally ill? No he was not.

      1. Hilarious.
        But echo has always been pretentious and unknowing

        1. And those are some of my better traits.

  32. With the high level of lying and corruption within the embedded establishment, I find it funny that some folks think a “nice guy” or a “stellar man of principles” is needed. I think we need someone who can thrust his fist into the heart of the beast and pull out some civil rights.

  33. Amash can’t be considered as a “vastly preferable” candidate when he essentially endorsed a soft coup attempt by a crooked FBI -in the name of holding the executive branch accountable. The Russian collusion probe, BK hearing and the impeachment were disturbing demonstration of how the media and a well connected political party can collaborate to hunt down political opponents of their choosing.

    If the LP isn’t interested in winning, they can nominate a depressing anti trumper who alienated half of the country. If they want to make some progress even while losing, they can nominate someone who’s not afraid to criticize Trump’s shortcomings but also stand strong against the liberal fascism. He or she has to tailor the message to appeal to the broad center right.

    “Nationalism and America first BAD but, endless influx of foreigners and unquestioning relationship with China hurrah” is a tone deaf message that won’t even resonate with some democrats. Businesses should be free to conduct business China for any number of reasons, but we should reforming taxes and regulations to facilitate production at home.

  34. I can recall when Sullum talked about ideas, not gossip. The only voters who matter are the libertarians who will say NO to another cross-dressing girl-bullying mystical Republican reject candidate. The GOP is tossing overboard its doctor-shooters and girl-bulliers, and they infiltrate the LP to turn women against us. Pro, choice Gary got us close to 4%, up from under 1% when he threatened womenºs individual rights.

    1. Someone should check out the American Psychiatric Association’s Goldwater rule, named after 1964 Republican candidate Barry Goldwater. The rule forbids psychiatrists from diagnosing people they had not met, tested and counseled in person, or something similar to that.

      1. It does not “forbid” anything.

        The APA has no authority to enact or enforce anything. It is a professional, mostly academic organization. It is not part of government at all. It cannot do anything except publish articles and recommended guidelines.

        That said the so called Goldwater rule, an ethical guideline, along with others has well informed the medical community.

        Medical science and practice works best without the politics of government. There needs to be a distance between them.

        So this is making the rounds. I have no idea what it is. Children with what looks like a post infectious inflammatory syndrome.

        https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31094-1/fulltext

  35. Rich seeing “libertarians” calling the more libertarian of the two candidates (twice now) a bully. Bullies don’t tend to care about limiting their ability to intrude into your personal life.

    Any libertarian should realize that outside of marijuana reform and some prison reform issues that democrats could not care less what we think. Republicans have always been better allies because most of them care about the constitutional limits on government.

  36. maybe it’s better for american to took president background from military first. Because the power house hold too much..
    People need a good govern and better life.. It doesnot matter about democrats or not all same if change can’t be done!

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