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Be Warned, Coronavirus Snitches: You Too May Be Snitched On

St. Louis tattlers discover their complaints about open businesses are public records.

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Hundreds of St. Louis citizens who snitched to the government about businesses that defied closure orders are discovering that their messages are not confidential and their identities are subject to sunshine laws.

As part of the effort to slow the spread of the coronavirus, some city and state leaders have forced businesses they deem "nonessential" to shut down. St. Louis County encouraged people to report any such businesses that are still open via an online form.

The county received more than 900 complaints. And the complaints, apparently, were not anonymous. Indeed, they're public records subject to the state's sunshine laws. Now people who are angry at the extent and duration of government shutdown orders are using those laws to expose the people who filed the complaints.

KSDK, a local NBC affiliate, reported in late April that a man named Jared Totsch received a copy of these tipsters' records and shared them on Facebook. When a KDSK reporter reached out to him to point to him that these tipsters are now worried about retaliation, Totsch responded that was partly the point.

"I'd call it poetic justice, instant Karma, a dose of their own medicine," he responded. "What goes around, comes around. They are now experiencing the same pain that they themselves helped to inflict on those they filed complaints against."

KDSK interviewed a tipster named Patricia (the station withheld her last name) who was worried about retaliation. "I saw a lot of businesses that were non-essential that were open and had lines outside, parking lots filled as if the order didn't matter to them," she explained to the station. "And that was kinda frustrating." She has personal reasons for being worried about the spread of the coronavirus—she has lupus, and two other people in her home have autoimmune issues, so they're in a higher health risk category than many others.

The whole fight feels like waves of resentment coming from opposite directions. There are huge economic costs to these businesses if they're forced to shut their doors. These shutdowns are going to lead to bankruptcies and destroyed livelihoods.

But yes, there are huge health risks to people like Patricia. Plans to try to restart the economy tend to involve keeping those who are in high-risk categories in quarantine while others carefully start returning to work.

The Reason Foundation (which publishes this site) recently released a working paper that tries to avoid these anger-inducing one-size-fits-all responses and focus instead on containing infection clusters. Patricia needs to keep herself safe, but that doesn't mean those businesses she saw needed to be closed in order to achieve that goal.

If more people realized that government's responses have trended more toward authoritarian blanket demands rather than actual risk assessments and properly targeted protection measures, we'd all be better off moving forward.

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  1. I get tired of the bull shit health risk excuses seems like everyone has a health reason. I actually do have a health risk but you can’t stop a virus some time you have to face the music..

    1. Patricia will remain safe as long as she self-isolates. Her insistence that others self-isolate implies that she does not plan to self-isolate; her snitching implies she saw the open business and thus was not self-isolating.

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      2. Those were my thoughts exactly. If she has a reason to believe that she needs to self isolate then it is her prerogative to do so. However, it is none of her damn business what actions other, free, individuals want to take in regards to their health. It’s about time this trend of the minority forcing the majority to accommodate them because “reasons” came back to bite them in the ass.

    2. Stay at home is at least beneficial to people who suffer from some conditions. Chronic masturbators come to mind. Though I have no personal experience in this area.

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    3. Shouldn’t she have been safe at home instead of cruising around looking for people she could tattle on?

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  2. Karen

    gives raisins to kids on Halloween

    drives an SUV to carpool her kids to soccer practice… better hope the ref doesn’t make a wrong call because she will sue!

    love to use snapagram to post her workout selfies

    after a long day of talking to managers and driving her kids around she sits down with her mom friends at book club and drinks lots and LOTS of wine
    “oh my god Karen do you really have to talk to the Burger King manager every time they forget to give you a ketchup packet.“

    “LOL! Yes!! I have to Facebook and instasnap it to all my friends to make sure everyone knows to watch out LOL!!!”

    1. Her white Lexus SUV. They might as well put a “Karen” monogram on them in the factory.

  3. I have no sympathy for the likes of Patricia. She can stay as safe as she was two weeks ago for as long as she likes (or at least until the special unemployment benefits run out) simply by staying home. It is outrageous that thousands of small businesses be forced to stay closed even one more day if their owners and customers want them open.

    1. Amen. Patricia is welcome to stay locked in her home forever if she wishes. We have seen that technology and delivery make this very possible. She needs to mind her own business and let others decide if they, too, want to stay in their hidey-holes or not.

    2. You have to appreciate a Karen like Patricia. She sees other people shopping because she herself is out shopping. Because she says she has an underlying illness that forces her to live in fear, she will carry out with conviction her sense of right and wrong on anyone she feels is wrong. All the while blissfully unaware of her own hypocrisy. The balls on her! Or stupidity.

  4. There is a principled case to be made from the Libertarian perspective as to what our personal responsibilities are in responding to this pandemic but I have yet to see Reason try to make it. I see a lot of bitching and moaning about Government. And a lot of hemming and hawing about good vs bad protestors.

    But I see little attempt to actually call people like this Patricia in the article out for expecting us all to give up our livelihood to protect her from the vagaries of nature. I would be interested in Reason stating from first principles where the line should be drawn here- otherwise their articles come off as so much wishy-washy nonsense where EVERYTHING can be criticized. Is a government that quarantines a person testing positive acceptable? Is it acceptable to quarantine the people who came in contact? How about the entire town?

    1. You are demanding line-drawing that cannot be made based on the data available now.

      Compare what we know about COVID-19 transmissability and fatality to what we know about, for example, Ebola. If you test positive for Ebola, quarantining not only you but the entire town is entirely prudent. At the other end of the spectrum, if you test positive for a medical condition that is not transmissable at all (say, a broken leg or allergies), then quarantining even yourself is just silly. Likewise, a quarantine is unjustified for a minor illness. You might want to spend a few days in bed for a common cold but the government has no place forcing you to. A quarantine for tuberculosis or measles occupies a middle ground. Justified as applied to you and maybe your at-risk contacts but not the entire town.

      This is about decision-making under conditions of uncertainty. We just don’t know enough yet to draw bright lines. We do, however, know enough to say that some reactions are far beyond any reasonable bounds even given what we don’t know yet. We also know enough to call out obvious hypocrisy when regulations are made in arbitrary and logically inconsistent ways.

      1. “You are demanding line-drawing that cannot be made based on the data available now.”

        No, the point of arguing from first principles is that you have already determined your decision tree, and the data may only guide the decisions- but data should matter very little. If it is wrong to initiate force on someone, then it doesn’t matter if you are starving and that person refuses to give you food. It doesn’t matter if they are really old or that you are sick. The principal comes first, telling you what facts are important.

        1. Okay, then you go first. What is the first principle that justifies quarantines for Ebola, lesser quarantines for measles but not for the common cold?

          I don’t think you can succeed because there is more than one principle in play. On the one hand is minimizing total harm. On the other hand is maximizing freedom. Considering only freedom results in Ebola killing all of us. Considering only harm reduction locks us down over trivialities. You need the third principle of balance to eliminate the extremes. And the principle of balance is fact-intensive.

          But I only said I don’t think you can succeed. Prove me wrong. What is your theory of the relevant first principles which should guide this discussion?

    2. scroll up to the last two paragraphs of this piece. They DID as you said they did not. VERY practical and reasoned words there. Go and read them.

      1. “They DID as you said they did not. VERY practical and reasoned words there.”

        You mean their working paper for an “Evidence Based” approach to reopening the economy?

        No, that is more of the same that everybody is doing right now. Picking and choosing data that supports their preferences, but ultimately comes down to a pragmatic argument- “We experts reviewed the data and have found the perfect balance of lockdown and freedom that will minimize spread and maximize the economy”.

        The working paper actually falls into the same trap that every other Lockdown Skeptic has fallen into- having this argument on the Lockdown team’s own terms. They are the ones with a bunch of made up data (“models”) who have turned this into a pragmatic argument- “we can save X lives if only we put the entire nation under house arrest”. The problem as framed is that it just comes out to whose study you want to believe. As many Lockdown Skeptics have learned, they can come up with different models and even hard data, and they will be vilified in the media as statistical incompetents or malicious deviants (or both).

        “4. Support the development of an infection-risk based Red-Amber-Green (RAG) CV19 status system for individuals, activities and jurisdictions, which can be used to determine who can and cannot do what, where.”

        This is from a libertarian paper. Libertarians are supporting a rating system where jurisdictions can declare “who can and cannot do what, where”. How you can get there from starting at the Non Aggression Pact is beyond me, and nowhere in that paper do they even try.

        1. Ruined the prospects of 7 billion to possibly prevent the loss of 100 million?… 1 billion?… defective gene sets. That second number would have to go a great deal higher than it appears to be going to overcome the harm done to the 7 billion.

          let’s get on with livin’, and dyin’, again.

  5. Hopefully they will be targets of ridicule by their friends and neighbors.

    Right.

    1. Hopefully businesses will turn them away.

      1. ^This^

        If I owned a small business I’d have a list of all the snitches’ names who live in a 10 mile radius (and photos if possible) at every cash register and my employees would have explicit directions to refuse service to any of them. And when – not if, when – they ask to see the manager I’ll be more than happy to explain it to them in words even they’ll be able to understand. That’s assuming I’d even be able to reopen after all this shit is finally over.

        1. Yeah right. You’ll bake the damn cake and shut up about it.

    2. Hopefully, good citizens will get their names and expose them publicly. Hopefully, good citizens will make note of whenever she gets more than 5 feet from her kids and call in a complaint to child services. Make the bitches pay.

    3. I couldn’t imagine a scenario where I would call the cops on somebody, and then, the concept of ‘Swatting Karens’!

  6. Nope, zero sympathy for Patricia. She can get her food delivered and quarantine herself. She sent men with guns after people because she doesn’t like the risks they are taking with their lives.

    1. which for those inside the businesses that opened anyway is NO RISK.
      And that is the root issue in this sick game of charades. Each of us lives with our own set of strengths and weaknesses, What is a risk for me is maybe not for you. The gummit poohbahs have NO IDEA what MY risks are, but I know them well. And I’m a big enough boy to put my britches on one leg at a time in the morning because I no longer have the strength and dexterity to jump up and slip them both on at the same iime. Bu,t do I need some gummit eedjit to warn me of the risks of doing both legs at the same time, from standing? Nah. STOP wasting my tax dollars, dolt, and go home. Maybe your dog needs his ears scratched. Give him a scratch for me, too, will ya? And don’t bother to come bak.

      Sheesh ya’d think THEY think we’re a passel of preschoolers with less common sense than a hungry young norway rat.

      1. Good point about accepting risks. I own a small beef herd, I work daily with 1000+ pound heifers (and one 1700 pound cow) that just had their first calves. They can be very unpredictable. Even though I select for calm and submissive tempaments in my breeding stock, if they feel their calves are in danger they will stand their ground. And even become aggressive. All it would take is one minute of me not paying attention and anyone of my herd could seriously injure or kill me. However, I love it. So the risk are worth it for me. I work to reduce my risks, when I am working with newborn calves I don’t turn my back on a cow or heifer if I can, and try to have a lookout (usually my oldest son). I spend a lot of time with my heifers so they are used to my presence. I know their personalities (F13 stands her ground, F6 is a mooch and always looking for food, F11 is flighty etc), factor tempaments into culling decisions but I can never fully reduce the risk.

        1. “Even though I select for calm and submissive tempaments in my breeding stock”

          Just like Daddy Gov with His subjects

          1. Yes and for the same reason. They are easier to control and less apt to attack or act out.

      2. Absolutely everything about progressive ideology centers on the premise that the masses are stupid and in need of help and/or rescue. Pandering and patronizing rhetoric and policy spew forth from their contempt.

        It is ugliness personified.

        1. The Karenarchy!

      3. MY risks

        To reiterate for the 437th time to everyone (I am counting) the lockdown isn’t about protecting you from getting it. (Sucks to be human.) It’s about stopping hospitals from being overwhelmed, causing further, and therefore needless, deaths.

        Everyone, her or antis-lockdown, who has forgotten this only serves to support the power grabs of politicians by buttressing it is about protecting you from infection directly.

        I’ve noticed this in other memes, where people rationalize something that is bad into something else, stripping out the original, abandoned argument to preserve the thing-as-bad. Mercury and autism and vaccines are one such thing. Now vaccines are thought of is bad by themselves, sans those two linked items.

        Similarly, gluten is bad for people with gluten intolerance, a rare thing, but now it has lifted off into being bad in and of itself.

        And now, quarantine is needed not to stop you from getting and spreading infection that overwhelms hospitals, but to stop you from getting it to save your life directly.

        This is BS and is not of sufficient cause for the lockdown, only stopping the overwhelming of hospitals is.

        1. The hospitals were never in danger of being overwhelmed. In fact hospitals are laying off staff because they are empty. People are dying of preventable causes because of the lockdowns. So it was a total clusterfuck from the word go.

        2. The Karen’s of the world have been bleating for the last two weeks that the lockdown was about saving lives, even though as you correctly point out it was about flattening the curve enough to not overwhelm the system.

          Trouble is it was never really in danger of being overwhelmed to begin with (except maybe in NYC.)

          1. And even there, the field hospitals and hospital ships went mainly underutilized.

  7. When a KDSK reporter reached out to him to point to him that these tipsters are now worried about retaliation, Totsch responded that was partly the point.

    A great injustice will have been perpetrated upon this Earth if this man ever again for the rest of his life is forced to pay for his own beer.

  8. “She has personal reasons for being worried about the spread of the coronavirus—she has lupus, and two other people in her home have autoimmune issues, so they’re in a higher health risk category than many others.”

    So exactly WHY was this person out wandering around the virus filled world looking for people to snitch on? I would Baker act that bitch for suicidal actions.

    1. Pressing “X” to doubt on that lupus part, too.

      1. Doubting her name is Patricia too. She’s gotta be Karen, amirite?

        1. Karens gotta Karen.

  9. “Do Not Serve These Clowns … “

  10. Moran. She should want us to develop herd immunity quickly. Best to have everyone get infected while she stays home.

    1. Yes, actually. Protect the weak, meanwhile spread the disease as fast as hospitals can handle it.

      In this way, the economy can recover, so we can continue advancing technology and thus the quality and length of life. Delays in this cost lives, and it compounds like interest to add up into something much larger over decades, that you may not have realized when you signed.

      1. ^So much this^ We could be done with this in fairly short order. Possibly two years until a vaccine? Screw that.

  11. KDSK interviewed a tipster named Patricia (the station withheld her last name) who was worried about retaliation. “I saw a lot of businesses that were non-essential that were open and had lines outside, parking lots filled as if the order didn’t matter to them,” she explained to the station. “And that was kinda frustrating.” She has personal reasons for being worried about the spread of the coronavirus—she has lupus, and two other people in her home have autoimmune issues, so they’re in a higher health risk category than many others.

    Then what the fuck was she doing out an about to see the “…lines outside, parking lots filled…”? She could have just kept her ass inside minding her own damn business.

    1. Even above her lupus, I’d say her most significant condition is an inability to mind her own business. I suspect that was the case long before coronavirus as well, I’ll bet she’s the woman in her neighborhood who calls the HOA when she thinks you haven’t been diligent enough in mowing your lawn.

      1. I once had a guy come up to me while I was vaping and tell me it was bad for my health.

        I looked him in the eye and said, “That’s what killed my dad.”

        “Vaping?” he asked.

        “No, not being able to mind his own fucking business.”

        When a KDSK reporter reached out to him to point to him that these tipsters are now worried about retaliation, Totsch responded that was partly the point.

        I want to buy this man a beer.

  12. Patricia sounds like those people who claim to have nut allergies and so no one anywhere a 100-mile radius can have a peanut butter and jelly sandwich.

    1. Go to Google News Archives and in the Spanish Flu pandemic there were cartoons of Everett True punching people for not wearing masks, bullying and intimidation of the unarmed, gossips, snitches and roving gangs. Oh! and cartoons about the virus being a German bio-weapon.

  13. I am 70. I am also not stupid or unable to make decisions. My wife and I stay out of situations that are likely to expose us to the virus, but don’t think that if someone else gets sick that automatically means we will.
    If you are at risk, you probably were before the big deadly virus, and should have been taking precautions all along. Age is something we all eventually aspire to, but morbid obesity and high blood pressure are somewhat manageable. Or you can just stay at home.

    1. Bingo. Even the notion that it is THIS virus that is going to kill the immune-compromised Patricia is silly in the extreme.

      1. If she has lupus, maybe she is taking HCQ…and therefore immune! Problem solved.

    2. If someone else gets sick, and if you don’t go near them or anyone they’ve infected for three weeks or so, its all the better for you. Now they won’t be able to infect you down the road.

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  15. The idea that the virus spreads at non-essential businesses, but not at essential businesses, is and always was magical thinking….

    1. But..but…but … you don’t understand. The virus is reasonable. And it can read! It knows which businesses are essential so it won’t go there. It just hangs out around the non-essential businesses hoping that some sucker comes along. Then it jumps on them.

  16. “There are huge health risks to people like Patricia….”
    With “actual risk assessments and properly targeted protection measures, we’d all be better off moving forward.”
    Sounds great! Who will be in charge of these actions?
    You refer to Reason’s White Paper.
    Steps number 1 to 3 seem to be the only serious steps and all three seem to be in the public part of Reason’s proposed “public-private partnership.”
    Step 4 is a color-coded guide for government enforcement.
    Step 7, “Congress should consider limiting liability for businesses,” is a self-defeating admission that people operating private businesses probably won’t believe these steps will be enough to stop the spread of Covid-19.
    “Support” this, “incentivize” that, those are euphemisms for weak government mandates and government spending, right?
    Finally, develop “therapies and vaccines.” Well, those are good ideas! Biotech companies must be fiercely competing to develop an effective vaccine, so they can be the one to ensure “it will be made freely available to all.”
    Reason proposes testing and screening, and admits “time is of the essence,” but assumes it already knows the outcome of the testing and just blithely states its recommendations will contain the spread of the virus until some unknown time when an effective intervention is developed.

    1. “Incentivize…..” haha.

      This is the language of authoritarians. Fuck them.

  17. Who is Patricia to determine what is essential. By her own account hundreds disagree. Fuck Patricia. May a flaming bag of poo appear on her doorstep.

  18. Snitches will probably start turning in a bunch of complaint forms signed Haywood Jablome and Ima S. Nitch.

  19. I snitched because I don’t want people out there getting COVID-19 because I have an autoimmune issue.
    – Snitch
    But if they get exposed and become immune they will help provide herd immunity which will in turn help you.
    – Sane person
    But I want to control peoples lives that are different than mine.
    – Snitch

  20. Karen’s Law?

  21. Hopefully she never builds anything without a permit or runs afoul of her HOA or illegally parks because I’m sure a lot of her neighbors are ready to make that call.

    1. I’d be willing to bet that Patricia is on the board of her HOA, and the reason that she was driving around outside of her neighborhood is that she could not find any of her neighbors against whom she could file an HOA grievance.

  22. If more people realized that government’s responses have trended more toward authoritarian blanket demands rather than actual risk assessments and properly targeted protection measures, we’d all be better off moving forward.

    Yeah, good luck with that.

  23. Wow, you sure use a lot of words to say “I WANT PATRICIA AND HER FAMILY TO DIE!!!!1” can I learn this art?

    1. Based on your comment, no. You have sense to this art or ability to comprehend nuance. Without nuance you have failed already. Without sense you possibly a blathering idiot. Given the terse, contrite drivel you posted I would imagine there to be a possibility that you can’t even blather appropriately. That is to say, pablum better appears to be your thing. All of that to say, we obviously want you, Patricia, and all other Karens to die. That’s obviously what I said.

      1. I butchered my English as I type on this tiny keyboard, but you get the point.

  24. People like Patricia either don’t know or are afraid to face the fact that eventually we are all going to be exposed to this. It isn’t going away. The idea behind the shutdown was to buy time so that we wouldn’t overload medical services. The original two week idea wasn’t bad. The problem is the whole thing went political. The media blew it all out of proportion and each side wants to use it to hammer the other side. If it wasn’t a Presidential election year, we probably wouldn’t be in this situation.

    1. Distinguishing “essential” and “non-essential” never made sense, even for a two-week period. Even less so, maybe, because that two-week period was full of panic buying where people were crowding into Costcos for TP and other stuff they considered essential.

      Promoting voluntary social distancing guidelines always made sense. As they have in Sweden. As they have in South Korea. That’s right; contrary to what a lot of people believe, South Korea never had a lockdown.

      The way this was handled was a mess from the get go. Originally politicians tried to play the virus down, even encouraging people to come to Chinese New Years’ parades and insisting fear of going was racist. Then, in order to compensate for their original downplaying of the virus, they throttled into pure panic mode.

      1. Keeping grocery stores open was nice and all, but so obviously not quarantining. Everyday was Sunday for the last month.

        It was really very obvious they weren’t ever taking this THAT seriously.

        I know people who limited shopping to once every 2 weeks, but I’m pretty certain the majority did not.

      2. And as they have in South Dakota…

    2. “The media blew it all out of proportion and each side wants to use it to hammer the other side.”

      “Both sides!”
      Of course.
      Let’s ignore that one of those sides wants to use government authority (and arms) to force you to exist under and according to their desires, while the other side wants that shit to end so everyone can make their own decisions about their own business.
      Never let nuance stand in the way of dogma!

      1. Under different circumstances, the other side would be more than willing to “use government authority (and arms) to force you to exist under and according to their desires”. A few elections back, we might have ended up with President Santorum [Hold on, gotta choke back some bile…] The difference now is that TDS has caused the Ds to dial their insanity to 11 and rip the knob off.

        1. “Under different circumstances, the other side would be more than willing to “use government authority (and arms) to force you to exist under and according to their desires”.”

          Maybe, but the circumstances are what they are – not what they WOULD be.

          1. I fully agree, but the pendulum will swing back eventually.

    3. Which does raise interesting questions for people like my mom (she has auto-immune problems), but then again, my mom isn’t roleplaying the Stasi either.

  25. Patricia has lupus.

    Lupus likely makes infection more possible, but lupus doesn’t appear to make death likely.
    The people most severely-affected and most at risk of dying now appear to not be people with lung disease or autoimmune disease, but rather people with conditions that make them start out with more oxidative stress: heart disease, very-high body mass index, diabetes, hypertension. COVID-19 now appears to kill primarily by vascular damage from increasing people’s oxidative stress. The people who are under elevated oxidative stress to begin with are the people who are the most susceptible to COVID-19’s significantly-amped-up insult.
    In a review of 5,700 people in Metro New York City who became sick enough with COVID-19 to get hospitalized, these people turned out to have existing conditions at the following elevated rates:
    28% more had hypertension than in the general metro NYC population
    14% more had body mass index greater than 30
    ≤ 11% more had coronary artery disease
    ≤ 9% more had asthma
    ≤ 7% more had congestive heart failure
    ≤ 3% more had obstructive sleep apnea
    0% more had chronic obstructive pulmonary disease
    Ref: 20-minute video:
    Coronavirus Pandemic Update 65: COVID-19 and Oxidative Stress (Prevention & Risk Factors)

    But it gets even better for Patricia. Lupus is often treated with hydroxychloroquine.
    If you take the Association of American Physicians and Surgeons’ tabulation, and you exclude VA study patients who may not have had the necessary adequate zinc levels, the percentage of the remaining COVID-19 patients who were given hydroxychloroquine and who lived was (2333-368-11)/(2333-368) = 1954/1956 = 99.4%.
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  26. What legal retaliation are you insinuating?

    Or are you advocating criminal behaviour?

    These are the times that demonstrate the character of people and nations.

    Putting a few shekels ahead of human life demonstrates the willingness to violate everyone’s right to life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness.

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  28. I have to work with the public so I’m supportive of some of the measures we’ve taken that libertarians oppose. But fuck these busybody snitches. Left or right, no one should want an east German type informant state

    1. The more Covid spreads the more likely anyone is to die.

      This is a case of you’re either a part of the solution or the problem.

      Bring on the ethical behaviour of snitches.

      1. Covid is going to spread…now or later. The area under a spiked curve is the same as a flattened curve. In a year from now, the death rate for developed nations will converge.

        So fuck off, slaver.

        1. There are a lot of smarter people than you working to develop vaccines and treatments.

          1. And until that time we stay locked down? There may never be a good vaccine or a good treatment.

      2. If you were a known snitch and in my neighborhood, I’d come to your home and beat your ass.

        1. And you’d be shot dead in self defence or in jail for assault.

          Either suits me.

  29. What’s that saying? Snitches get britches? Snitches get itches?

    Oh, I remember… its

    Obese (bet on it) middle aged (ditto) finger wagging scolds get what they deserve.

    I hope this fat slag enjoyed the little wet patch in her undies from the rush from wielding yokto-scale power. In all likelihood she wasn’t popular to begin with, so fingers crossed it’s all downhill from here.

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  31. Some laws of nature never change. Snitches get stitches.

  32. I disagree with anonymous tips when it comes to legal issues. It leads to abuse. You have the right to confront your accuser. I bet Patricia was the kid in high school who nobody liked because the teachers used her as a snitch and she felt righteous about it.

    1. You support crime.

      1. That’s some deep thinking there, Robbo. Maybe you should consider writing for “Reason”.

  33. Look for shortages in sutre thread soon.

    1. And no shortages in lawsuits as lawyers try to levarage the shifted meme that it is about protecting you, not overwhelming hospitals, to line their pockets from what is a rapidly-growing target-rich environment.

      Because Walmart didn’t shut down, starving half the nation, they need to pay lawyers money because an employee caught it and died.

      How are these particular ambulance-chasing lawyers like the corona virus? Both are a parasitic plague on humanity. A parasite is an organism that exists by draining resources from another organism, causing damage to that organism (as opposed to symbiote, where there is mutual advantage.)

      [Sets down ****-stir handle and covers back up the cauldro .]

  34. Wolfladies, wolfmen and vampires are free to relocate out in the middle of Nevada if they like not seeing other people. Another option is to join with comrades to chip in and file class action lawsuits against the Chinese Communist Party for dereliction in loosing its biological weapons lab virus on them. Germany was charged reparations for damages caused to Europeans when its armies burned and exploded people and property. The Alien Property Custodian held a lot of seized assets in trust, and State and muni bonds in ChiCom hands could be cancelled as reparations.

    1. Yes sue China and learn that the research at the lab was funded with US grants and when US embassy inspectors in 2018 warned that an outbreak was likely due to careless practices, the US did nothing.

  35. The Deseret News, Nov 28, 1918 urges its religious readership to Stamp Out the “FLU” exhorting : ENFORCE THESE RULES–See that your Neighbor Obeys Them–Report Any Violations… The thing is a terrified call to arms urging the initiation of force to contain an unseen menace. There are regulations signed by officious oafs, proclamations, blather and bluff. What we are seeing is a replay of 102 years ago complete with the fear the thing might be a foreign bio-weapon such as Jack London suggested “we” might use against non-communist China back then.

  36. It’s a damn shame that so many democrat so called leaders have encouraged us to fight each other.

    1. It’s a bigger shame that we agreed to.

  37. “…Patricia (the station withheld her last name) who was worried about retaliation. “I saw a lot of businesses that were non-essential that were open and had lines outside, parking lots filled as if the order didn’t matter to them,” she explained to the station. “And that was kinda frustrating.” She has personal reasons for being worried about the spread of the coronavirus—she has lupus, and two other people in her home have autoimmune issues, so they’re in a higher health risk category than many others.”

    It’s amazing how easily fooled people are into thinking there’s even such a thing as ‘non-essential’ and ‘essential’. The whole thing is just arbitrary. Why Home Depot gets to stay open but not a small hardware shop? And we can go on and on about the unfairness of it all to the point it’s absurdly ludicrous.

    As for people with ailments, that doesn’t excuse the behavior. In my family we have people with diabetes and auto-immune deficiencies and they would NEVER snitch out of fear. My wife is one of them.

  38. In the face of coronavirus, we can only prevent it by wearing a face mask

    1. Do you realize that the virus can live on your clothing or face mask for 24 hours?

      People who receive specific ppe training, which you have obviously not, still make mistakes and die from infection.

  39. “Freedom Requires Courage; Cowardice Guarantees Servitude” (bumper sticker–free for the asking, but limited supply).

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