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Marijuana Vaping Madness Is Reaching 'Reefer' Proportions

A new generation of marijuana prohibitionists is reviving old talking points with vaping products substituting for joints.

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Drug warriors in Arizona recently held a conference to fret about "the dangers of vaping marijuana." And no, they're not talking about the potentially toxic additives in black market vaping products; they emphasize the pursuit of a high itself. That's a shame, because there are potential dangers in vaping improperly manufactured black market THC products—a message the conference glossed over.

"The stuff that's being vaped, it's a high concentration form of THC. It's actually up to 98 percent THC," warned Northern Arizona University (NAU) professor Cindy Scott, a former police officer who served as the public face of the cop-heavy anti-drug gathering at NAU's Phoenix campus.

At least in their public statements, conference participants went on to link THC use to sinister dealers trying to hook customers, the dangers of going bonkers and, of course, nefarious pot advocates.

"It's not about the high to the people selling it. It's about addicting you to that drug," insisted the Arizona Department of Public Safety's Colonel Frank Milstead.

"The biggest one is psychosis," Jason Hutchings, executive director of Awaken Recovery Center, claimed of the mental health dangers of vaping THC.  "Earlier in my career, you would never see anyone with THC that's having mental issues as a result of THC. Paranoia. Delusions. In the last five years, we've seen quite a few of those."

"It's being marketed to kids and it's being tied up in the whole campaign of the legalization of marijuana with all these great medicinal properties," Scott told Arizona's KTAR News.

If you've seen the 1936 movie Reefer Madness, you know that this script isn't getting any fresher. And, as they did when that movie came out, prohibitionists now threaten to make things worse by keeping an industry in the shadows where the real dangers lie.

"Investigators have homed in on black-market cannabis or nicotine products, recently warning consumers to steer clear of them and to stop modifying these products at home," MedPage Today reported last September, after areas around the country started seeing (sometimes fatal) lung illnesses related to vaping. In Kings County, California, "all eight of the respiratory cases reported in the recent cluster included patients who had purchased THC- or CBD-containing vaping cartridges from unlicensed 'pop-up' retailers."

A Mayo Clinic study of 17 vapers with suspected vaping-associated lung problems suggested the damage stems from "some kind of direct chemical injury," according to Brandon Larsen, a surgical pathologist at Mayo Clinic Arizona. "Based on what we have seen in our study, we suspect that most cases involve chemical contaminants, toxic byproducts or other noxious agents within vape liquids."

The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) has fingered synthetic Vitamin E as one likely culprit. Vitamin E acetate is used by some underground manufacturers to control the viscosity of the product and to stretch the cannabis content.

"Vitamin E acetate is strongly linked" to "emergency department visits related to e-cigarette, or vaping, products," says the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention on its website, continuing:

National and state data from patient reports and product sample testing show tetrahydrocannabinol (THC)-containing e-cigarette, or vaping, products, particularly from informal sources like friends, family, or in-person or online dealers, are linked to most EVALI cases and play a major role in the outbreak.

Vitamin E acetate has been found in product samples tested by FDA and state laboratories and in patient lung fluid samples tested by CDC from geographically diverse states.

The agency recommends "that people not use THC-containing e-cigarette, or vaping, products, particularly from informal sources like friends, family, or in-person or online dealers."

So, there is some vaping danger, but it's driven by the continuing illegality of marijuana and its derivatives at the federal level and in many jurisdictions, which make legal, professionally manufactured THC vaping products hard to come by (a prohibition that results in 78 percent of THC vapers getting their products from "informal sources"—black market dealers—according to the CDC).

THC can pose dangers of its own, if you do the cannabis equivalent of chugging a bottle of vodka. Just as Prohibition led bootleggers to avoid beer in favor of easily stored and transported distilled liquor, and laws against cocaine brought us concentrated crack, black market vaping manufacturers have an incentive to pack as much punch as they can in their products. As with other substances, the highest concentrations aren't always the best stuff.

"The best vape cartridges are usually not the most potent in terms of THC," writes Lester Black, who covers marijuana news for Seattle's The Stranger. "To achieve 90 percent potency processors often have to heavily process the concentrate, losing lots of the terpenes that give you an enjoyable high."

More isn't necessarily better in several ways. While low concentrations of THC mellow people out, high concentrations can lead to gastrointestinal problems and anxiety. And yes, psychosis can be an issue, though not so much in terms of the sudden psychotic break that the participants at the NAU conference suggested.

"Studies show that cannabis can raise the risk of early-onset of psychotic symptoms in those predisposed to the illness, especially with daily use of cannabis that is high in THC," Nature noted last summer. Although, "it might be that people who have or are predisposed to psychotic mental illnesses are more likely to use cannabis."

"I compare it to alcohol," Earl Miller, a cognitive neuroscientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology told the publication. "Too much or the wrong situation can be bad, but in other situations it can be beneficial. I think we're going to find the same thing with cannabis."

So, just like alcohol or pretty much anything else, use THC in moderation. If you do vape the stuff, purchase vaping products made to professional standards of quality and safety. That's sensible advice best followed in an environment of legality in which responsible people can openly manufacture, market, buy, and sell goods, and hold each other accountable.

But that's not what you hear from the new generation of marijuana prohibitionists who seem determined to remake Reefer Madness with vaping products substituting for joints.

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  1. “Earlier in my career, you would never see anyone with THC that’s having mental issues as a result of THC. Paranoia. Delusions. In the last five years, we’ve seen quite a few of those.”

    Oh yeah, paranoia was never an issue until the last 5 years. lol

    1. It wasn’t paranoia. They really were out to get the pot users.

      1. Yep. The only thing worse than being paranoid is finding out you aren’t.

      2. “Dave’s not here”

      3. Yeah get them put into cages! The only thing about cannabis that ever made me paranoid was the thought of being put in a cage over it by one of these worthless fucking drug warriors on their way home from the BAR! Carts are ok for sustaining a buzz and I call Bullshit on on 98% claim, but what do I know I only work in the industry and know the testing labs. The sauce carts seem to be the best overall with the pure distillate ones being meh at best. They will never replace a nice doob of well cured herb for taste or buzz. It strips out to many of the nuances of a flower buzz. Kids who don’t know better I am sure think they are getting baked. The other issue is it shoots tolerance through the roof being an extract of high THC. That is why I only dab on occasion these days too.

  2. My previous venture imported vape pens from china for the THC market. The tariffs and the entrance of a large public company who was not afraid to price dump made that segment of my operation non competitive, but that is a story for another time.

    Try not to use vape cartridges if you can. Any and all. I still will pack one for travel, but locally use anything else. You don’t want to vaporize and inhale something from China, which is essentially what you are doing when you use those cartridges. Even the brand I was distributing, which was by far the market leader and held several patents on their design, popped hot for lead in a few batches. They blamed it on one of their upstream suppliers. The same company makes several of the leading Nicotine vapes and a line of tank mods (C Cell.) So I wouldn’t trust any vape right now.

    Vaporize off of heated glass or a convection device with a glass airway only.

    1. The shatter that I vape is rigorously tested according to Colorado law. The delivery device is a battery connected to a heating coil. Please explain to me where Chinese lead and other contaminants enter my bloodstream.

      1. The heating coil.

        1. Or the wick material. Or the tank material. Or the device airway. You can get US or canadian made vapes like what you have, so less risk there. The pre filled cartridges are where there has been confirmed lead contamination.

  3. “It’s not about the high to the people selling it. It’s about addicting you to that drug,” insisted the Arizona Department of Public Safety’s Colonel Frank Milstead.

    “But, enough about ‘Public Safety’.”

  4. Finally an article on vaping here that mentions CBD.

    1. But I thought CBD wasn’t supposed to get you high?

      1. Really 😀

  5. Uh the stronger it is the less you smoke which is better for your lungs. Anti drug people are anti liberty so they can all go fuck themselves.

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  7. When Tucille’s dad ran for office the looters and their AMA publications all swore that everything Billy Graham called a drug caused people to jump out of windows. On the other hand, pointing guns at people and shooting them is not only scientific proof of televangelist revelations, it also displays the danger of disobedience–like 1929 when beer was a shoot-first felony. Ya can’t make an omelet without killing a few thousand and bringing the economy crashing down, can you?

    1. Hank! You old so and so! I’m glad to see you’re still kicking.

  8. Sure is different than when I went to college. I can’t now even if I wanted to because of work.

    I don’t see why people don’t just smoke the plant like in the old days. Seems safer and I hear it is much better stuff than it was back then.

    Heard that Willie Nelson, one of the great stoners and artists of all time had to quit recently because of health reasons.

    Just what I could find on you tube. Just an example of his great work over the years. Funny how time slips away.

    https://youtu.be/iZaZqx9v3dU

    1. As De Oppresso stated above, the concentrates are better for travel until we can travel easily with the leafy green stuff.

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  9. Studies show that cannabis can raise the risk of early-onset of psychotic symptoms in those predisposed to the illness.

    1. Yes you do have right statement even though But that’s not what you hear from the new generation of marijuana prohibitionists who seem determined to remake Reefer
      remake Reefer Madness

  10. >>”I compare it to alcohol,” Earl Miller, a cognitive neuroscientist at the Massachusetts Institute of Technology told the publication. “Too much or the wrong situation can be bad, but in other situations it can be beneficial. I think we’re going to find the same thing with cannabis.”

    You compare it to alcohol? That’s not a good comparison – alcohol is a lethal, toxic substance, killing over a hundred thousand per year in the US from direct consumption, while cannabis causes no deaths, is completely non-toxic on the body’s organs, and is a valuable agent for medical treatment of 100+ diseases & ailments. Alcohol is far more addictive than cannabis. Alcohol induces domestic violence and abuse. NHTSA says alcohol increases crash risk from 400-1200% while cannabis users have zero increase in crash risk.

    Further evidence that science in America has been prostituted at the highest levels. We can’t even get very SIMPLE science straight on things like medicinal herbs. USA society is on the brink of huge wake-up calls from scientific reality in areas like epidemiology and destruction of the atmosphere/biosphere.

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