Justin Amash

Justin Amash Declares Independence From Republican Party

"The two-party system has evolved into an existential threat to American principles and institutions," Trump's congressional nemesis declares as he officially leaves the GOP.

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One month after Donald Trump took his oath of office, Rep. Justin Amash (R–Mich.) pinned at the top of his very active Twitter feed George Washington's famous farewell address warning against "the baneful effects of the spirit of party generally."

This morning, not seven weeks after breaking ranks with this party in calling for impeachment proceedings against the president, Amash announced in a Washington Post op-ed that he's leaving the GOP and declaring himself an independent.

"Today, I am declaring my independence and leaving the Republican Party," the five-term congressman wrote. "No matter your circumstance, I'm asking you to join me in rejecting the partisan loyalties and rhetoric that divide and dehumanize us….The two-party system has evolved into an existential threat to American principles and institutions."

Amash, 39, had become increasingly isolated within the congressional GOP long before spelling out in a Twitter thread his conclusion that Trump "has engaged in impeachable conduct." He crossed swords with the administration on the travel ban, Obamacare repeal/replace, the firing of then–FBI director James Comey, various spending increases, tariffs, the president's relationship with Russian President Vladimir Putin, birthright citizenship, Saudi Arabia, eminent domain, and the emergency declaration along the border, for starters.

Since the impeachment apostasy, Amash has become a GOP pariah, drawing rebukes from the very House Freedom Caucus he co-founded, defections of key financial supporters, primary challengers, and freelance sniping from Michigan's congressional Republicans. "In this hyperpartisan environment," Amash lamented today, "congressional leaders use every tool to compel party members to stick with the team, dangling chairmanships, committee assignments, bill sponsorships, endorsements and campaign resources."

In a July 2017 interview with Reason (you can watch the whole thing below), the Grand Rapids native said that he preferred the descriptor "libertarian" rather than "libertarian-leaning Republican," and stated that "hopefully, over time, these two parties start to fall apart." Americans, he said, "need to move away from this idea that you just have two parties who are at war with each other, and one party is good and the other party is evil, because that leads to all sorts of bad outcomes. You get end-justifies-the-means thinking in just about everything, and liberty doesn't really have an opportunity to flourish in that sort of environment."

The congressman hit similar notes in his op-ed, quoting more extensively from Washington's speech ("one of America's most prescient addresses"), and furthering what Peter Suderman in these pages has characterized as "a critique of reflexive partisanship and a system that works from the expectations that party affiliation is the most important (and, in many cases, the only) factor that matters in high-stakes political decisions."

"Americans have allowed government officials, under assertions of expediency and party unity, to ignore the most basic tenets of our constitutional order: separation of powers, federalism and the rule of law," Amash wrote. "The result has been the consolidation of political power and the near disintegration of representative democracy."

As a result: "Instead of acting as an independent branch of government and serving as a check on the executive branch, congressional leaders of both parties expect the House and Senate to act in obedience or opposition to the president and their colleagues on a partisan basis."

It is notable that Amash is going indie, and not joining the political party whose name matches his preferred ideological descriptor. This carries both practical and rhetorical considerations.

On the practical side, the congressman will no longer be a candidate in the April 2020 Republican primary for Michigan's third congressional district; he is expected instead to file papers to run for re-election as an independent. The Amash team had previously expressed confidence in the face of early polls showing his main primary challenger 16 percentage points ahead, but now will have to make an electability case based on the power of incumbency in a three-way contest. (Michigan is a straight-ticket ballot state, which he told me in August 2018 "makes it prohibitive to run outside of the major parties.")

Amash's announcement is also sure to fuel ongoing speculation that he's readying a bid for the 2020 Libertarian Party presidential nomination, a prospect even his own would-be competitors are cheering on. The party's selection doesn't take place until May 2020, so until and unless Amash rules out a run, the next nine months will be a festival of guessing, gamesmanship, and gossip.

But in his piece today, which does not mention the president by name, the congressman is more concerned with how two-party partisans are fighting more viciously over a shrinking pie of public affiliation.

"Modern politics is trapped in a partisan death spiral, but there is an escape," he writes. "Most Americans are not rigidly partisan and do not feel well represented by either of the two major parties. In fact, the parties have become more partisan in part because they are catering to fewer people, as Americans are rejecting party affiliation in record numbers."

Perhaps mindful that his impeachment comments demonstrably moved public opinion among political independents, Amash continues: "These same independent-minded Americans, however, tend to be less politically engaged than Red Team and Blue Team activists," he writes. "Many avoid politics to focus on their own lives, while others don't want to get into the muck with the radical partisans."

And so: "I'm asking you to believe that we can do better than this two-party system—and to work toward it. If we continue to take America for granted, we will lose it."

Reason's interview with Amash from July 2017:

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  1. He’s 20 points down and doesn’t want to get a real job – what do you expect him to do?

    1. Its pretty telling that he sent the letter to the biggest trump hating newspaper he could instead of announcing on a libertarian site. He wants exposure and one final show of virtue signaling. He has more pride than conviction.

      1. Yeah, decrying the fusion uniparty by writing to it’s house organ seems a tad bit ripe.

        1. Note to the “principled” libertarians: this is where your principles (ego) get you. Sitting on the sideline in no position to actually advance liberty.

          1. Ok. That was funny. Thanks.

          2. Exactly, he now has zero influence.

            1. Amash is a scumbag who co-owns MIT, a company which owns Tekton, which ILLEGALLY imports chinese products and claims they were made in the US. That is why he’s suddenly so vocal. This adoration of anyone who confronts Trump has to stop. The same idiots would have elected Avenatti.

      2. It’s not “virtue signaling”, it’s actual virtue. The man has integrity. I was proud to support him when he first ran for office, and I’ll continue to do so in the future.

        I heartily invite you to go fuck yourself, by the way.

        -jcr

        1. I find it amazing that so few Democrats have any issue with their rather startling changes over the last few years.

        2. What’s virtuous about siding with Democrats about attempting a coup of a sitting president based on lies?

          He’s an egotistical, arrogant prick like so many big L libertarians. Those who think the needs and wants of his constituency are secondary to his “principles”. And he knew he was going to get his ass beat in the next election.

          So you can take your own arrogance and stuff it forthwith.

          1. And the only, the ONLY reason he would’ve gotten beaten in the next election is his profoundly stupid endorsement of impeachment for Trump. He’s not that good a president but he does make the far left completely lose their shit! 😉

            Of COURSE Trump should be impeached. Just not for “collusion” – maybe for murder of Syrians, violation of the separation of powers doctrine, etc.

            Everyone now knows that the entire Mueller “investigation” is not only based on 100% lies, it itself was a complete lie.

            Plus, President Pence would be a whole lot worse. He’d have zero hesitation about false flagging us into a war with Iran, which the US would lose, and lose very badly. (Ever since Gulf War I, every couple of years the US has war gamed trying to open the Straight of Hormuz against Iran trying to close it. US always loses within 3 weeks.)

            There are over a QUADRILLION dollars in derivatives, mostly ultimately based on oil futures. The entire western financial system would completely collapse.

            1. Really, the fear of oil prices? Because the US is pumping out faster than anyone and faster than ever? Sorry, Iran just doesn’t have that much influence on the oil supply, and their OPEC brethren would happily stab them in the back.

        3. So is John C. Randolph his campaign manager’s sock on Reason?

        4. If I were to fuck myself I’d enjoy it.

          His virtue is as great as your intellect, and inverse to your gullibility.

          1. Gee, that would really sting if I had any reason to value your judgement, you snotty prick.

            -jcr

            1. You sure like the cheap ad hominems for someone pretending to favour class in politics.

        5. Sorry, jcr, this was a total dick move, as bad as many of Trump’s classless acts. Rand Paul, who also has many disagreements with the orange man, keeps to his knitting, passing on the Heffalump convention to do charitable work, and working with Trump where their interests coincide. That’s class. And it shows a commitment to the party that has helped him get his office. Turning your back on the party this way is rude and ungrateful.

          1. Bullshit. He decided that remaining in a branch of the Ruling Party wasn’t worth it anymore, so he left. He doesn’t owe them shit.

            -jcr

            1. Are you Amash’s mom, or his campaign manager or something?
              You’re way too invested in him.

              1. Then that makes you his ex-girlfriend.

        6. Is it though? Shouldn’t he have done this ages ago, if it was sincere? Don’t you find it suspect that he waited until he’s about to be shoved out of office to do this? At the very least you have to admit he waited until it was convenient. There are many good things to say about Amash, but this never-trumper pageantry isn’t among them.

    2. Well, he’s 16 points down and does want the real job of being president, and I’d vote for him. He’s looking for attention to boost his chances.
      I expect that eventually libertarian ideas will dominate at least one party, whatever they are called, given how the RINO controlled GOP and lying Democrats keep screwing over citizens. It’s obvious voters are fed up with the establishment given the way they’ve voted out high ranking establishment politicians like Eric Cantor (R) and Joe Crowley (D), plus there was the Tea Party (co-opted by the RINOs, and oppressed by Obama’s IRS) which arose but fizzled as a result of efforts from the establishment. Historically, liberty continues to increase over time, and I expect it to continue.

      1. He strikes me as just mostly-contrarian and he could have departed the GOP less-dramatically. But hey, there is no such thing as bad press, right?

        The “right” is more ideologically stratified than the “left” and he won’t find any friends on the other side; he could have been more persuasive operating within the GOP than outside in the Land of Bill Welds.

        1. No, the GOP is utter trash, just like the Dems. Good for Amash.

          1. Amash is utter trash, just like the GOP. He’s just signaling team solidarity to the establishment.

            1. The difference is that u like Democrat voters, who are mostly soulless subhuman garbage, actual GOP voters are not.

      2. Libertarians will never garner more than 15% of the national populace. Too many are addicted to government paternalism, even in the GOP. They see government as a means to power, influence, and money. Amash is no different than these people. There is a reason he announced on the 4th in the nations biggest left leaning paper; it’s where he would garner the most views for his ego.

        If a libertarian wants to influence policy he needs to work on actually influencing others. A small step towards liberty is more than Amash has ever accomplished in his time in Congress. They will need to work with non true believers in order to get these small steps in place. Amash was unwilling to do this.

        Blind absolutism is naive and idiotic no matter what the absolutism is. You see this in pure hippie communists and you see this in idealistic libertarians. Absolutism only works when everyone already agrees with your absolute ideas. It’s a weird stance for a libertarian to even take.

        1. 30 percent of Americans are pretty much libertarian though. Most of them don’t vote.

        2. The goal for libertarians should not be the seizing of power. There are no political solutions. The goal should be education and changing the hearts and minds, one person at a time.

          1. The assblasted retard said, while defending an elected politician. Lmao

            1. Eunuch gonna eunuch

          2. “The goal for libertarians should not be the seizing of power. ”

            Impotence forever!
            The eternal cry of the Cuck.

            All deontological moral preening, all the time, damn the consequences.

            Ask yourself, if libertarians all politically castrate themselves, cui bono?

            1. Eunuch can only see from his own, impotent perspective.
              Rather than having a shred of dignity and simply ending himself, eunuch’s resentment demands the castration of those he wishes to identify with.

              1. You, Ive been trying to get some combination of Tony, Buttplug, and Chemjeff into a suicide pact for ages now. Sadly, without success.

                1. Their hatred of Americans gives them the will to live on.

                  1. As well as their collective lust for young boy flesh.

          3. Absolutely, that was Ron Paul’s goal. His son carries it on. Amash threw his influence away. Impeachment was not the big issue, the blatant violation and abuse of power by the FBI is an enormous issue for Libertarians as Clapper’s illegal spying on Americans. But nothing’s been done, nor do I have much faith will be done.

            1. And why would he want tog et rid of the most libertarian president in several decades anyway? Trump may not be an ideological libertarian, or an ideological anything, but his pragmatism has been more libertarian than at least the four presidents before him.

              I’ve often worked with people I have personally disliked, but respected and trusted professionally. That Amash can’t speaks volumes about the size of his ego, and his commitment to getting a libertarian agenda enacted.

              So really, fuck him.

        3. At least blindly absolute libertarians (if there are any) don’t want to grow government to fuck over other people.

          1. Yeah Bill Weld’s gun confiscation goon squads will be kind and gentle. As would Gary Johnson’s VAT enforcement authorities.

          2. Supporting convictions based on faulty 702 corruption isnt growing government?

            Its not just laws and spending that grow power.

      3. “Historically, liberty continues to increase over time,…”

        I wish that was true. Does the U.S. have more liberty than, say, 1870? There have been some advances in the past decade (cannabis legalization in some states, same-sex marriage, Heller decision). But those gains are tenuous and could be reversed or outweighed by other declines.

    3. Amash’s To-Do List for the 4th:
      – wake up, brush teeth
      – take shower, with soap
      – get dressed
      – sit down at computer
      – destroy career

      1. He tried to protect his Chinese family businesses and his partners. That didn’t work, so what’s left, is try to destroy the nemesis that destroyed his profitable business model.

      2. His ‘career’ was ending, and not of his own choice, so he’s re-inventing himself.

        AKA – he’s so disgusted by DC he’s decided to do anything in order to stay in town.

      3. Amash is trying to save his career.

        He’s another Open Borders Uber Alles globalist. They’re being driven out of the Republican Party.

        So he threw in his lot with the Deep State coup to help transition to the Democratic Party. He’s betting on them as the long term bet for globalist ruling class, and he’s right.

        1. I wonder if he turns democrat in another six to ten years, like some others have done who failed in the Republican Party but were desperate to cling to power.

          1. He’s in the House. Gotta find a new grift by 2020.

            It’s either be a faux Republican talking monkey on CNN, or run as a Democrat.

            I suspect he’d rather do the latter. It’s a career with a longer shelf life. The charade of I Hate Republicans “Republicans” has got to lose credibility with even Trump’s opponents still in the party.

            When the farce is jeered at by all on the Right, the dancing monkeys will have lost all their minimal value, and be cast on the dung heap of history by the Left.

    4. He’s decided is he can make more money as a Chinese communist party asset.

    5. I expect him to take RINO Lisa Murkowski with him. How patriotic it would be for both of them to become Independent Boobs of the Democrat caucus on Independence Day!

      1. Such a pair of boobs would require something larger than
        a double-D cup size to shield of us all from their chest of lies!

    6. His aim is no different than #JoeChina. Both running for same cause, same interests, same puppet-masters.

      1. Ruling Class Globalists to the Left.
        Self Government Nationalists to the Right.

    7. Well … Bye.

    8. Hopefully Mr. Amash will be unemployed after the 2020 election.

    9. He’s not wrong, as such. But nobody is impressed with the guy who quits the game out of principle right before everybody can see they’re going to lose.

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  4. He’s absolutely right about the reeking dumpster fire that is the two-party system.

    1. Really? What alternative do you propose?

      Have you looked at multiparty systems in Europe? Do you seriously think US politics would be enhanced by having a dozen parties in Congress, among them socialists, communists, and real fascists?

      I suggest you look how Hitler got to power; it wasn’t by majority vote and it wasn’t a two party system, yet it was fully democratic. That’s what you can look forward to if you get rid of the two party system: extremist minorities holding an inordinate amount of power.

      The problem with the US government is not the two party system, it’s simply that it has gotten too big and amassed too much power. The only way to fix that is to make it smaller and return power to the people.

      1. You know who else rose to power on fractious and fractured political parties? Oh, wait…

        But imagine what coalition would form between the Democratic Socialists and the Labor Party and the Reparations Party and the Green Party or the Social Conservatives and the Tea Party and the whatever and so forth. The backroom deals and giveaways would overwhelm any gridlock we might otherwise enjoy.

        1. Abraham Lincoln?
          Macron?

        2. “But imagine what coalition would form between the Democratic Socialists and the Labor Party and the Reparations Party and the Green Party or the Social Conservatives and the Tea Party and the whatever and so forth. The backroom deals and giveaways would overwhelm any gridlock we might otherwise enjoy.”

          Weimar kinda disproves that theory.

      2. The federal government, Absolutely needs to be cut down to size; and many corrupt politicians from all parties, processed and thrown in prison, like Hillary the uranium broker.

      3. “I suggest you look how Hitler got to power; it wasn’t by majority vote and it wasn’t a two party system, yet it was fully democratic. ”

        I suggest you extract your head from your ass. There was nothing democratic about Hitler’s consolidation of power. Anybody with even a rudimentary understanding of history knows that….but congratulations on being the quickest to prove Godwin’s theory. All the MAGA socks are being worn on both hands over this one. Hahahaha.

        1. I suggest you extract your head from your ass. There was nothing democratic about Hitler’s consolidation of power.

          I suggest you do the same. Not only did Hitler become chancellor through the multi-party democratic process (as head of an anti-capitalist, progressive party), parliament voluntarily and democratically gave him dictatorial powers (“enabling act”).

          Yes, that was multi-party democracy at work. And multi-party democracy isn’t working much better for Europeans today.

          1. So you admit that Hitler lost the election and seized power through other, corrupt channels, and dissolving branches of government and yet you call this ‘democracy’? I’m afraid you are very confused.

            “Yes, that was multi-party democracy at work. And multi-party democracy isn’t working much better for Europeans today.”

            Ummm…no it wasn’t. NOt by anybody’s definition other than your own. At least the european’s don’t try to shoehorn a dozen different set of ideals into two bloated, corrupt political parties that have absolute control of the power structure of the nation. I’d argue it works at least as good as here, if not better.

            1. Does the stupid burn or sting? Reading comprehension skills aside, Hitler came to power legitimately and didn’t consolidate power until AFTER he was elected.

              Just for clarity since it’s Independence Day and you seem about as educated as I’d expect from a double wide dweller we’re not a Democracy were a Representative Republic.

              1. “I’d expect from a double wide dweller”

                Ooohh…….double-wide dweller. Sick burn.

                “And yes, hitler rose through democratic channels.”

                If you call murdering a few thousand people along the way ‘democracy’ then you are absolutely correct. Of course, I’m pretty sure, that is what you would call democracy. If the boot fits, wear it….I guess.

                1. Ooohh…….double-wide dweller. Sick burn.

                  You’re right: that observation was off the mark. In fact, American double-wide dwellers are more politically astute than you (and live better than the average European as well).

                2. Your grasp of history is pathetic.

                  1. He claims to be a European, so he was indoctrinated in government schools.

                    Current European governments have a strong interest in portraying previous, similar failures of European governments as some kind of aberration caused by anti-government forces.

                    1. “He claims to be a European, so he was indoctrinated in government schools.”

                      Huh? I did?

                    2. Sorry, I misread your comment “I’d argue it works at least as good as here, if not better.” So, as an American, you really have no excuse for your profound ignorance and your authoritarian preferences.

                      And as someone who immigrated to the US, let me tell you from first hand experience: no, it doesn’t “work as good as here”.

                    3. “So, as an American, you really have no excuse for your profound ignorance and your authoritarian preferences.”

                      I’m not the dumbfuck claiming Hitler rose to power through democratic processes.

                      “And as someone who immigrated to the US, let me tell you from first hand experience: no, it doesn’t “work as good as here”.”

                      Sorry comrade. Soviet Russia is not representative of eurasian politics.

                    4. I’m not the dumbfuck claiming Hitler rose to power through democratic processes.

                      Let me state this clearly: you are spreading falsehoods. Whether that’s out of ignorance or deliberate, I don’t know.

                      Anybody who wants to check can read the original transcripts of German parliament; they are online and it’s all documented there.

                      Sorry comrade. Soviet Russia is not representative of eurasian politics.

                      So you admit that you’re a Russian troll?

                3. double-wide?? you think I’m that rich?

              2. TPeteriff, always amusing when the “We’re not a Democracy, we’re a Republic!” theme pops up, when we are, of course, both.

                To quote the American Heritage Dictionary, a “republic” is, “A political order in which the supreme power lies in a body of citizens who are entitled to vote for officers and representatives responsible to them.” We are that.

                Definition of “democracy” is, “Government by the people, exercised either directly or through elected representatives.” Are we not that too?

                So, we are that particular strain of representative democracy also known as a republic (capitalization not needed).

                But still, up you pop, over and over again (though your term, “Representative Republic” is different and redundant—a republic is inherently representative). The great majority of such instances I’ve encountered over the last few years do not involve a thoughtful analysis of the the Founders’ views of William Blackstone, the Roman Republic, and the Federalist Papers. No, its most common use is as a triumphant, sneering exclamation of right-wing echo chamber types, replying to someone’s innocent and mostly accurate passing reference to the USA as a democracy.

                A hypothesis. The primary cause for this is simply the coincidental roots of the names of our two major political parties. Specifically, to a certain strain of partisanship, everything is viewed through the lens of “Republican Good! Democrat Bad!” Therefore, “Republic Good! Democracy Bad!”

                Were it not for this accident of semantics and history, this topic would likely be just a subject of obscure and enjoyably pedantic semantics.

                Oh, well, carry on.

              3. we’re not a Democracy were a Representative Republic.

                No we are not a ‘representative republic’. We are in fact the LEAST represented people IN THE ENTIRE WORLD now. We WERE a representative republic as the House was designed. That was effectively destroyed when congress froze the size of the House in 1910 and broke all possible future connection between the individual and their representation. Since then the ‘individual’ has lost at least 2/3 of their ability to influence their own representative. We individually have lost roughly 95% of the representation we had when the Continental Congress declared independence on the basis of all sorts of wonderful ideas about self-governance. Or when Madison wrote Federalist #10 about how a representative republic was better than a democracy OR a tyranny.

                We have instead been forced into a zero-sum game where one person’s influence can only come at someone else’s expense rather than via an increased number of voices in the legislature. Where in fact we are and can no longer be individuals but merely aggregations of different demographic masses that can easily be manipulated now. Which is precisely how a society transitions from a res publica to a divide-et-impera tyranny.

                Course I wouldn’t expect a useful idiot for the DeRps to remotely understand any of this. Since you are in fact an advocate for factional tyranny.

                1. Your dumbass screed presupposes that all power should and does reside at the Federal level

                  1. No it doesn’t. States with good representation on their own (NH, WY, ND, SD, RI, KS, CT, MO) tend to be very jealous of preserving their independence of action. States with poor representation on their own (CA, TX, FL, NY, OH, IL) prefer to use their weight at the federal level to impose power (even to the point of restricting population mobility and enhancing serfdom) on other states.

                    The less representative the feds become over time, the less need those latter states have to improve their own representation and the more ‘national’ they become. If feds restore their representation to what it was, those states will feel tons of pressure from their own citizens to improve their own representation else they violate the ‘guarantee a republican form of government’ clause.

                    1. Useless without repeal of the 17th

                    2. The 17th has NOTHING to do with this. The 17th passed because 31 state legislatures passed resolutions demanding it and 33 states had already introduced some form of direct voting for Senators and 27 had called for an Article 5 convention. It did not come from the feds – it came from the STATES. Which is why it was ratified BY the states within about a month after they reconvened after their own 1912 elections. There was NO controversy about this amendment AT ALL. You R’s are just morons and history ignoramii for pretending it’s some issue now.

                      Fed-state balance of power does not depend on some piece of paper. The feds cannot wave a piece of paper around saying YOU MUST DO THIS OR ELSE and oh BTW that’s because you states are really strong.

                      I REPEAT – states with strong representation themselves at their own state level are competent to TAKE the powers they need/want to be effective. They don’t need to appoint Senators for that. Their citizens elect both Sens and Reps who try to make sure that that power devolves. States that are incompetent and nonrepresentative don’t magically become competent because they appoint senators. Rather they have ignorant apathetic citizens who elect aggrandizing Sens AND Reps cuz they themselves don’t understand representation.

                    3. Of course, maybe the reason STATES were strong enough back then to redefine the parts of the Constitution that affected them – like election of Senators – was because at least some of those states that suck at representation now – were quite good at representation then.

                      NY, CA, and FL have also frozen their legislature size for a century plus. I’ll bet TX and OH have too. As have other states too. ALL states that do that prioritize ease of controlling the legislature over representation of citizens VIA the legislature.

                    4. The 17th was pure progressivism, smack in the middle of the 16th (income tax) and 18th (prohibition).
                      We have 535 representatives now – 100 of them simply have more power.
                      You going to expand the Senate too?
                      The 17th has destroyed federalism and led to the senators themselves pandering nationally, to parties and cronies – unaccountable otherwise.

            2. Yes they do that’s what coalitions are. The exact same thing.

              And yes, hitler rose through democratic channels. Just like maduro did. It is one of the reasons the founders kept power split between the states and the federal government. Something liberals are constantly trying to undo.

            3. So you admit that Hitler lost the election and seized power through other, corrupt channels,

              Hitler didn’t “lose” the election (November 1932), he won it: he was the leader of the largest party with 37% of the votes. As such, he was tasked with forming a government and was appointed chancellor by von Hindenburg, the president at the time. That’s how German democracy worked back then, and it’s actually pretty much how it still works today.

              and dissolving branches of government and yet you call this ‘democracy’?

              Hitler didn’t “dissolve branches of government”. German parliament voted overwhelmingly to transfer its powers to Hitler. Prelate Kaas, head of the Christian conservatives, extensively justified his support for the Enabling Act in his speech; read it.

              I’d argue it works at least as good as here, if not better.

              Europeans are historically and politically ignorant; you just illustrated that again nicely. That’s also why you are so easily manipulated into thinking that your failing authoritarian states are “working good”.

              1. Yeah, well, go back and look at the history and experience of Germany as a democratic country in 1933 and contrast it with the history and experience of America as a democratic country in 2019.

                You’re not comparing apples and oranges, you’re comparing apples and lawnmowers.

                1. Perhaps you missed my point. People like Amash said that the US two party system is broken but don’t provide any alternative.

                  I was simply pointing out that the only alternative in existence, namely multiparty parliamentary democracy, is not working well for Europeans and has frequently allowed dictators to come to power through democratic means, with Hitler being one of the most prominent examples.

                  So what’s your point? Or do you just like to babble about fruit?

                  1. No, I like to babble about lawnmowers.

                    I would disagree that multiparty parliamentary democracy has “frequently” allowed dictators to come to power through diplomatic means. You’ve named precisely one, and the one you’ve named is everybody’s go-to for horrible examples. Has there been a dictator in, say, England that came to power through their multiparty democracy? Canada? Those two countries are probably the two that are most analogous to the USA.

                    Our two-party system is broken, probably beyond repair. Nothing reasonable can ever get done. Take immigration. There’s plenty of room for a functional update of our current system that recognizes reality. It really wouldn’t be that hard. But we can’t have that because the partisans on the right simply want to scream “illegals, criminals, rape, MS-13!” while the partisans on the left scream “Hitler, concentration camps, fascism!”. And the clowns we elect polarize to those sides because of the Squeaky Wheel Rule and we end up nowhere.

                    1. I would disagree that multiparty parliamentary democracy has “frequently” allowed dictators to come to power through diplomatic means. You’ve named precisely one,

                      Well, I assumed you’d be able to think of, or at least look up, others yourself. I encourage you to do so still.

                      Take immigration.

                      You’re absolutely right that a parliamentary system can fix such problems quickly and efficiently. European countries turn around on a dime on issues such as welfare, immigration, nuclear power, etc. But the flip side is that they can also turn around on a dime and pass the Enabling Act and other disasters from which they don’t recover.

                      Our two-party system is broken, probably beyond repair. Nothing reasonable can ever get done.

                      Yes, and that is one of the reasons it is a superior system to European parliamentary systems: it makes it much harder for government to do things.

                      Of course, if you are a progressive, statist, and/or authoritarian, this is precisely why you hate the two party system. You suffer from the delusion that the more government does and the more power it has, the better off people are.

                      What’s broken in the US is not the two party system, what’s broken in the US is that the federal and state governments have amassed so much power that the limitations of the two party system actually matter. The way to fix that is to cut back the power of government, not to adopt an even worse form of democracy.

                    2. “Well, I assumed you’d be able to think of, or at least look up, others yourself. I encourage you to do so still”

                      Yeah, I didn’t think you could name any.

                      “if you are a progressive, statist, and/or authoritarian, this is precisely why you hate the two party system.”

                      But…I’m not any of those things. I hate what the two party system for what it’s become – if we’re going to have a government at all it needs to be minimally functional. Instead, we’re just lurching from extreme to extreme every few years as first one then the other of our two parties pisses enough voters off enough such that they’ll give power to the other one.

                    3. “Well, I assumed you’d be able to think of, or at least look up, others yourself. I encourage you to do so still”

                      Yeah, I didn’t think you could name any.

                      Projecting your limitations on others isn’t a good look.

                      There happens to be a very contemporary example to 1932 Germany: 1922 Italy

                      Thanks for playing.

                    4. The UK is basically a 2 party system as well. There smaller parties do marginally better than ours.

                      Basically, the Socialists and the Democrats formed a coalition here in 2016, when non-Democrat Bernie Sanders almost won the Democrat nomination

                    5. Yeah, I didn’t think you could name any.

                      If you’re the kind of ignorant person for whom Venezuela doesn’t immediately spring to mind, you really can’t be helped by naming more examples or giving links.

                  2. “if you are a progressive, statist, and/or authoritarian, this is precisely why you hate the two party system.”

                    But…I’m not any of those things.

                    Yes, Bevis, you are. You said that you want government to solve problems for you (“Take immigration. There’s plenty of room for a functional update of our current system that recognizes reality.”) That makes you a statist, and probably a progressive and authoritarian as well.

                    An actual liberal/libertarian wants to be left alone by government so they can solve problems for themselves. To actual liberals/libertarians, government gridlock is a good thing. The fewer laws government passes, the less it messes with our lives, the better.

                    1. “An actual liberal/libertarian wants to be left alone by government so they can solve problems for themselves.”

                      You’ve already proven you don’t know the difference between democracy and tyranny so why should anybody believe you understand what a libertarian is/wants?

                    2. Well, Mcgoo95, given that many democracies end up as “tyranny of the majority”, perhaps you’re a bit fuzzy on the distinction between “tyranny” and “democracy”, just like you are evidently completely ignorant of 20th century history.

                    3. Aristotle would like a word with mister mcgoo

                    4. “Aristotle would like a word with mister mcgoo”

                      Think you mean Plato…but potatoe tomatoe.

                    5. I do not mean Plato.
                      Try “Politics”
                      By Aristotle

                    6. And what point would Aristotle attempt to impress upon me? Is there some magic property in a two party democracy that prevents or prolongs it from collapsing into tyranny?

                    7. Is there some magic property in a two party democracy that prevents or prolongs it from collapsing into tyranny?

                      As a matter of fact, there is. It’s the same reason people like Amash want to get rid of it: two party democracy keeps minority views out of government.

                    8. “two party democracy keeps minority views out of government.”

                      Oh you mean minority views like socialism, and nationalism.

                    9. “two party democracy keeps minority views out of government.”

                      Oh you mean minority views like socialism, and nationalism.

                      No, I mean minority views like socialism and fascism.

                      There is nothing wrong with nationalism (“nationalism” = “the policy or doctrine of asserting the interests of one’s own nation viewed as separate from the interests of other nations or the common interests of all nations”).

                    10. “There is nothing wrong with nationalism”

                      Six million dead jews might disagree with you….if they weren’t dead.

                    11. “There is nothing wrong with nationalism”

                      Six million dead jews might disagree with you….if they weren’t dead.

                      Let’s work this out for you one step at a time.

                      Jews had lived in many highly nationalist societies for centuries without genocides. Therefore nationalism does not, per se, cause genocides. The Roman and French empires were both highly nationalistic and highly expansionary, but they didn’t commit genocides based on race.

                      The ideologies justifying the killing of Jews in Europe were scientific racism and eugenics, largely developed in the US and adopted in Nazi Germany by a totalitarian state and a population that had an inordinate respect for the state and its institutions.

                      (American progressives also believed in scientific racism and eugenics but only got as far as forced sterilizations and segregation in their implementation.)

                      Hope you enjoyed this history lesson. I do recommend, however, picking up some history books and actually thinking about what you are saying, instead of blindly repeating stupid talking points.

              2. German parliament voted overwhelmingly to transfer its powers to Hitler.

                Sure they did. They didn’t want to get murdered.

                -jcr

            4. Actually European direct election of their leaders and their multiparty system often means that somewhere between 20-25% of actual votes cast determine the winner. So you end up with leaders that in no way represent their constituents, and have. O mandate whatsoever.

            5. The July elections would provide that opportunity. The Nazis, sensing total victory, campaigned with fanatical energy. Hitler was now speaking to adoring German audiences of up to 100,000 at a time. The phenomenon of large scale ‘Führer worship’ had begun. On July 31st, the people voted and gave the Nazis 13,745,000 votes, 37% of the total, granting them 230 seats in the Reichstag. The Nazi Party was now the largest and most powerful in Germany.
              After months of political intrigue and threats, on January 30, 1933, Hindenburg appointed Hitler as Chancellor.
              On his first day as chancellor, Hitler manipulated Hindenburg into dissolving the Reichstag and calling for the new elections he had wanted – to be held on March 5th, 1933.
              On February 27th the Reichstag wasburned (by Nazis).
              On March 5th, the last free elections were held. But the people denied Hitler his majority, giving the Nazis only 44 percent of the total vote, 17, 277,180.

              The story is told in great detail: http://www.historyplace.com/worldwar2/riseofhitler/dictator.htm

              1. On February 27th the Reichstag was burned (by Nazis).

                The mainstream view seems to be that the Reichstag fire was set by van der Lubbe. Van der Lubbe was a communist, but apparently acting alone.

                The idea that it was set by the Nazis themselves seems to have mainly an idea promoted by communists. They claimed that van der Lubbe was a gay drug-addicted lover of Ernst Rohm.

          2. Hitler also imprisoned and murdered his opponents. You glossed over that while lecturing others.

            1. while acknowledging the face that nothing in the American experience yet approaches the scale of murder perpetuated by the brownshirts, have you ever personally known anyone who has had forty or so friends and acquaintances die suspiciously? The Clinton body count is real, mate, and they aren’t the first political family in the U.S. that has a body count.

            2. Hitler also imprisoned and murdered his opponents.

              Really? Which political opponents did Hitler “imprison and murder” before he won 37% of the popular vote and before von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor? And what institutions did he use to do this? Come on, name them!

              You people want to cling so much to your political delusions so much that you seem to forget all common sense and reasoning.

              1. And his suppression of parties, which very much came after he was named Chancellor, was ALSO done legally.

                So many seem to confuse “legal” with “good idea”. You can do plenty of horrible things legally.

                Vietnam War was legal.

              2. “Really? Which political opponents did Hitler “imprison and murder” before he won 37% of the popular vote and before von Hindenburg appointed him chancellor? And what institutions did he use to do this? Come on, name them!”

                Man you are dense. Seems you’ve forgotten the Beer Hall Putsch.

                1. You mean the laughable debacle that amounted to nothing but German courts gave him as lenient a sentence as humanly possible?

                  Hitler did not kill anybody there. He was one of the first to run away.

                2. Seems you’ve forgotten the Beer Hall Putsch.

                  And which political opponents did Hitler “imprison and murder” during the Beer Hall Putsch in 1923? As far as I know, 16 Nazis and 4 police officers were killed. And how did a deadly street brawl in 1923 related to nationwide elections in 1933?

                  I mean, are you effing serious?

                  1. Yea trying to violently start a revolution reeks of democracy. Go fuck yourself.

                    1. Yea trying to violently start a revolution reeks of democracy.

                      Indeed, the Nazis tried to violently start a revolution in 1923 and they failed. In fact, Hitler was imprisoned for it.

                      Afterwards, Hitler took a different approach, namely using legal and democratic means to come to power.

                      Go fuck yourself.

                      For you to promote the idea that Hitler’s rise to power was some kind of “putsch” or violent takeover is deeply evil. It’s people like you that enable fascists to come to power again and again. So you need to go fuck yourself. You are utterly contemptible.

                    2. Hitler also said that, following that, the Nazis would seek power politically. And they did so.

                      Again, people can vote for truly terrible things.

                    3. Again, people can vote for truly terrible things.

                      Yes, and this is what people need to remember: totalitarian fascist/socialist takeovers frequently start not via violent takeovers but via lawful and democratic means.

                      The fiction that totalitarian regimes arise out of violent overthrows of democratic governments is something socialists and fascists like to claim in order to justify increasing suppression of free speech and political opposition.

                      The Weimar Republic and other failed democratic regimes, in fact, had some of the strongest means at their disposal to punish and restrict anti-democratic activities, and all that accomplished was to give Hitler more legitimate tools to use against his opposition when he came to power.

          3. “parliament voluntarily and democratically gave him dictatorial powers (“enabling act”).”

            By majority vote.

        2. Hitler achieved power because he was the true soul of the German people. Authoritarian from their very beginnings, racist to their bones and anti-Semitic to their core, the German culture had become completely deranged and it was no surprise that a deranged tyrant would come to power.

          There were absolutely no non-authoritarian elements within Germany. The Social Democrats established a state whose existence was predicated on service to the “volk”. The Communists and the Nazis battled for control of the monster the SD’s had created. So close were the Nazis and the Communists in their goals and tactics that many of their recruits had, at one time, been members of the other party.

          If democracy is rule by the will of the people then no country on earth as ever been more “democratic” than Nazi Germany and this would have been true no matter which gang of authoritarians came to power. The Will of the People was to establish and submit to tyranny, and they got exactly what they deserved.

          1. “and anti-Semitic to their core”

            No, they weren’t. In fact, prior to the rise of National Socialism, Germany was one of the LEAST anti Semitic countries in Europe. With France possibly being the worst offender. This is why so many Jews lived in Germany in the 1930’s.

            1. Germny was better than France, yes. Germany was an extremely anti-Semitic country well before Hitler was busy writing horrible books and delivering meandering diatribes.

              1. By. Oder standards, certainly. Relative to the other options in Europe, they were like the leper with the most fingers.

                1. True. But if the Left can determine that Lincoln is a bigot, I feel few qualms stating that Germany has a storied history of disliking them some Jewish folks.

                  …mind you, Europe STILL hates Jews. Only explanation for preferring theocratic despotism over the only remotely open and free country in a shithole part of the world.

        3. Hitler became Chancellor quite legally.

          He even got the Enabling Act et al passed “legally”.

          Legally does not always mean “good idea”.

          The Reichstag happily gave Hitler power…much as Congress has happily given Presidents power for decades now.

      4. “That’s what you can look forward to if you get rid of the two party system: extremist minorities holding an inordinate amount of power.”
        As opposed to now? What percentage of the total (legal) population is truly socialist? What percentage of registered democrats?

        1. As opposed to now?

          Yes, as opposed to now. Like it or not, the two political parties roughly represent the center of US political preferences.

          What percentage of the total (legal) population is truly socialist? What percentage of registered democrats?

          I have no idea and I don’t think anybody does. If socialism switches from a fringe view to a view held by maybe 30%+ Americans, it will gain power. Socialism is a fringe view in educated, wealthy societies; it becomes a mainstream view the more poor, low skilled people you have in your country.

          The US political system isn’t a panacea, but it is somewhat better than European parliamentary democracy in terms of preventing extremist takeovers.

      5. Hitler and the National Socialists had the preferential voting system going for them as well.

      6. Thank you. Best explanation of why NOT TO FOLLOW another one of European cockamamie ideas! And they did start them all from Feudalism, Colonialism, Fascism, Marxism, and now globalism.

        1. Better to just stick to winner take all tribalism. Much less ‘cockamamie’.

          1. How much did a total inability to actually have a government rule for more than a few weeks cripple the French 3rd Republic?

            How much has Italy been harmed by its comically inept ability to maintain any stability in government historically?

            Greece?

      7. “What alternative do you propose?”

        Alternatives are for those who care about reality, not the moral preeners.

      8. “That’s what you can look forward to if you get rid of the two party system: extremist minorities holding an inordinate amount of power.”

        Libertarians.

    2. Technically there are more than two-parties in our electoral system. It just happens that the major national players were the Grand Old Party and the Democrat Party.

      The Democrat Party is dying and even the Party of slavery leadership knows this. Hence the urgent desperation.

      The Libertarian Party will likely fill the void and challenge the GOP but who really knows.

      1. Democrats are “dying” yet they just won a midterm landslide in the House. You’re such an idiot.

        Realistically Democrats will regain full control again like in 2008. Then when voters realize how much they suck the GOP will take over like in 2016. Then voters will remember how much they suck too and boot them out. Repeat.

        1. Define “landslide”. Your nic explains the depth of your intellect.

        2. With the abject lunatics running for president in 2020 on the Dem side, your view is not only wrong, but crazy.

      2. Poor Democrats could not even get 236 House seats like the GOP had during the 115th Congress.

        116th Congress has 235 Democrats.

        Hahaha. And then they lost 6 seats in the Senate.

        And then the Party of slavery will lose the election to Donald Trump. and more Senate seats.

        Hahaha.

        1. I really haven’t looked to see how the senate contests will shake out yet for 2020. I’m ow the democrats are not on the defensive nearly so much, so it will be a tougher contest. Of course, they’ve really exhausted a lot of the meager amount of political capital they have, so it may knot go well for them.

      3. The Democrat Party is dying and even the Party of slavery leadership knows this. Hence the urgent desperation.

        The two major parties in the US are realigning. The Democrats will adjust their message and policies until they capture about half of the electorate, and so will the Republicans.

        The only way Democrats will die and get replaced by another party is if they mess up that process really badly. It’s possible (it has happened before), but it’s unlikely.

        I can tell you one thing: the morons running the Libertarian party are not capable of doing anything significant on a national stage.

        1. Liberals are running full speed to the fringes. They arent realigning in order to gather more voters. Their hope is control of Hollywood, the media, and colleges can convince people. Its backfiring as they elevated their extreme too quickly.

          1. Saner Democrats are just beginning to realize that the party is in shambles and that their message isn’t working. After all, until Hillary got the boot, everything seem to be going fine.

            The “Democrat” brand name is damaged but not destroyed; they still have a couple of election cycles to come to their senses and figure our what their message ought to be. After that, they’re toast.

            Another thing that works in their favor is that Republicans are in disarray as well, though in the case of Republicans, it’s the usual confusion and lack of strategy they have had for years.

            1. The Dems seem to have learned the wrong lesson from Hillary’s defeat. They think they should have gone with Bernie, so they’re all trying to out-socialist each other now.

              1. I’m thinking that the next election will correct that error.

                1. It will likely be too late the Democrat Party. This election cycle will send most moderate Democrats still left in the Party of slavery running for the hills.

                  Then if DNC leadership try to backtrack and regain the moderates, those people will be gone forever.

                  Democrats have been flooding into the GOP for decades which is why we call them RINOs. They have been shifting the Republican Party less socially conservative for decades. I think its also why so many “Republicans” are not fiscally conservative.

                  The USA will likely have the GOP as a mixed bag of ex-Democrats and socially conservative Republicans, a fiscally conservative/socially liberal group like Libertarians, and the Socialists (Democrat Party or some other name).

                  1. As Tim Pool was pointed out, the issue is not that the Republicans have moved to the Right. They are not much farther Right than they have been for years.

                    The Democrats, though, have gone FAR off to the left. Obama’s claimed policy preferences would be on the very far right of the CURRENT Dem stances on issues. Clinton would be a Republican. Kennedy would be a fascist.

          2. This is why the democrats are desperately pandering to illegals. It’s their only hope. As they are slowly losing influence with blacks, Latinos, and working class voters.

            Some recent polls are showing Trump making strides in Latino voter favorability. Quite an achievement given his rampant ‘racism’.

      4. The Long March Through the Institutions has trampled through the Libertarian Party as it has through Reason.

        They’re no alternative to the Globalists.

        And I don’t see how the Dems are dead. Hillary won the popular vote in 2020, and the demographic trends are overwhelmingly on their side.

        1. The Kochs just want peace.
          Hence their union with Soros to think tank global socialist totalitarianism

          1. Open Border Uber Alles
            Kochs and Soros agree on that, and that’s what matters.

            Corporate Profits hand in hand with the Global Deep State.

    3. Brilliant, Montoya. People like you can make statements like yours, but if they are asked for their “solution” to the “problem”, they are flummoxed.

    4. Just look at Germany recently. It took over 8 months to iron out a coalition to form a government. It was a mess.
      The 2 party system is not perfect by any stretch of the imagination, but it is far better than other alternatives.
      Italy, for example, has had over 50 elections since the end of the 2nd world war 74 years ago. I’ll take the 2 party system over that any day of the week.

      1. That seems like 8 months where the government wasn’t coming up with new ways to fuck the citizens. Gridlock is good.

        1. It’s cute that you think that the bureacracy ceases to exist during those 8 months. Kinda like a turtle helplessly flailing its legs turned on its back.

          1. Chipper isnt smart enough to realize all he advocates for is unelected slavemasters instead of elected ones.

          2. I said “new ways,” genius.

            1. Do you honestly thing that they don’t generate new rules, sport?

              But we’re all going to drown in the great global warming flood so why does it matter anyway?

        2. That seems like 8 months where the government wasn’t coming up with new ways to fuck the citizens. Gridlock is good.

          It may seem that way to you, but that’s because you don’t understand how US-style gridlock differs from European-style inability to form a government.

    1. Rep. Mark Walker

      @RepMarkWalker
      Amash left the @freedomcaucus now he’s leaving the @GOP. The @HouseGOP never left @justinamash – we simply ran out of space for his ego. However, we should make sure he leaves Conference and his committee.

      1. That hits the nail on the head. Every bit of his recent public bitching has had the appearance of being about him getting attention. Not him actually giving a shit about something Trump did.

        At least if he launches an independent bid for the presidency, he can have his ego as his running mate.

  5. Good riddance! Don’t let the door hit you in your butt while on the way out!

    1. yeah, who wants those annoying fiscal conservative, pro-liberty types in the Republican Party? we’re all fascists now.

    2. Look at all these randos from Drudge. Stay a while, learn something, if you are able.

      1. Will you be giving the seminar on nose picking or drooling into a cup?

        1. If you are trying to represent the Drudge readers with your comment, good job, I guess.

          1. You really couldn’t up with anything better than “I know you are but what am I?”

            Jesus fucking Christ, I knew you were stupid, but why make a point of it?

  6. People born with the ‘liberal gene’ behave as this one does.

    1. And people born with the ‘stupid gene’ behave as you do.

      1. Excellent response. Well structured, significant references, full and correct sentence structure. In short, a masterpiece. With a small additional effort, you can put OBL to shame.

    2. The liberal gene is probably, at least in part, the personality trait known as openness to new experience.

      1. Well, anal prolapse and AIDS are indeed new experiences for most.

      2. Yeah, liberals love new experiences…. Like communism, which has totally never been experienced before by anyone

    3. Behave how? Criticizing the dumpster Whitehouse?

  7. Another Sarwark-like lefty running as a Libertarian? No thanks. Amash inspires even less enthusiasm than Gary Johnson did.

    1. Now, now. Amash’s voting record is at least as good as Ron Paul’s.

  8. Slain by MAGA.

    1. +100

  9. He was, is, and always will be a fraud.

    1. He chose political exile and i thank him for it. We don’t need mcstain to be replaced.

  10. He says a lot of pretty words. Yeah, two party system: bad.

    But if you’re in the trenches, looking for a way out, you absolutely, positively do not follow the guy who has an undeniable history of falling (hard) for the lamest, weakest, most obvious feint the enemy ever conjured.

    Sorry Amash, but falling for the “Obstruction” narrative— when an informed, rational, independent-minded person would have been demanding accountability for those who used the terrible powers of our institutions to gin up a Soviet-style sham investigation— forever disqualifies you.

    I wouldn’t follow Amash to Family Dollar, much less over the top of those partisan trenches.

    Furthermore, I suspect there’s more. I propose that this is all theater. Smash has struck a deal with the Dems, and this is him working with them to try to siphon Republican votes away from Trump.

    How else can you explain a guy like Amash falling for the most blatantly partisan, evidence-free sham since “The Valerie Plame Affair?”

    He’s a double agent. Follow him over the top and you’re cannon fodder for the other side.

    He talks pretty. Two sides: Bad. But wait for a real leader to break the stalemate. Amash is a joke.

    1. Amash didn’t fall for the obstruction narrative, he’s collaborating with the attempted coup.

      Like Nick, he’s Open Borders Uber Alles. He realizes that the place for that is in the Democratic Party.

      1. Better than the democratic party, the “Republican/libertarian” talking head on CNN.
        He might have trouble elbowing that fat, Hispanic lady out of the way though. But I could also see them getting along splendidly

        1. More likely a faux Right talking head, but that’s the fall back position if he can’t get a congresisonal seat as a Democrat.

          Don’t count him out.

          Palestinian/Syrian Christian Open Borders Uber Alles may make him a nice piece of the Dem’s intersectional puzzle. Short term, he can probably draw some Republican voters with him in Michigan.

  11. Good for him. I hope to add his name to the short list of conservatives and Republicans (David Frum, Max Boot, Jennifer Rubin, etc.) who maintain their dignity in the Drumpf Era by encouraging everyone to vote for Democrats — at least until the GOP returns to its more respectable, early 2000s version.

    #LibertariansForABetterGOP
    #PutTheNeoconsBackInCharge
    #ImmigrationAboveAll

    1. early 2000’s version…. ouch!

      1. From a Koch / Reason perspective, the neocon GOP of the Bush years is objectively better than the alt-right white nationalist GOP of the Drumpf years. The Iraq War may have been misguided, but it cannot compare to the depravity — and violence against brown bodies — of Drumpf’s draconian war on immigration.

        1. This is a brown body responding to you; you’re a moron dummycrat.

          1. He is an obvious troll. Clearly you’ve never been to 4chan.

            1. no, it is a parody. The name is a give-away.

    2. The “Drumpf Era”, as you succintly put it, is the absolute breath of fresh air the country’s been starving for for decades. His predecessor very nearly buried the country, and this president is leading the recovery effort we hired him to do. We’re proud of him.

      You go on wid’ yo’ bad seff and “add his name” to whatever list blows your skirt up, dude. We’re going to join President Trump as he regains the dignity America lost during obongo’s 8-year reign of terror.

    3. How about the 1950s version?

    4. You forgot Bill Kristol.

      Bill Kristol: White Working Class Should Be Replaced by Immigrants
      https://youtu.be/mWJSKhEwjy8

      1. Kristol really evolved into a smug elitist piece of shit.

        1. Kristol was probably always that to some degree. He’s just overcompensating now that he’s lost the power he had on the Right.

          He’ll continue to double and quadruple down on his elitist schtick now that the peasants have rejected him.

          The moral preening of the Never Trump right is the most unsightly sight in politics. Their smug self righteousness is all they have left.

  12. Look at all of the pretend libertarians commenting on this article to attempt to debase Amash. GTFOH

    1. Look at the leftist troll telling libertarians that a progressive RINO is a true libertarian.

      1. He’s neither progressive or a RINO. He just doesn’t lick your bosses boot….which is really the only thing your pea-sized brain can comprehend.

        1. But he does appear to lick the feet of the IC which is scarier. He has no problem of using the government intelligence community to go after someone he hates. That’s worse than anything trump has done.

        2. I really have to thank you, @Mcgoo95

          I didn’t vote for Trump (in fact, I used to be a registered Democrat) and seeing Trump on TV still makes my skin crawl.

          But no matter how unpleasant Trump is, by your own behavior, you have illustrated that the alternatives are still much worse. Keep up the good work!

          1. My bad…..I guess I assumed that by labeling Amash a progressive RINO you were a Trumpista. I now realize you are just confused by political labels.

            1. You seem to have trouble with reality, Mcgoo95. Amash just told us that he has been a RINO for a while now, since he left the Republican party.

              As for calling him a “progressive”, that’s debatable either way. I think his views are falling at the moderate end of progressive. You’re welcome to disagree.

              Of course, a debate is something one cannot have with someone like you. Just look at the history of these threads to see why.

    2. This article was linked on Drudge, so these are not libertarians, but typical Drudge readers.

      1. Paranoid and stupid is a bad combo friend. If the echo chamber is a little less echoey today you can always go stroke off at Mother Jones.

      2. When they reach over 5 years of claiming to be libertarian when they ate not reason will give them the CMW award.

        1. It’s a plaque with nothing on it
          We’ll call it “the eunuch”

    3. Look at all of the pretend libertarians commenting on this article to attempt to defend Amash. GTFOH

      There I fixed that for you.

      You wrote ‘debase’ instead of ‘defend’.

      Gotta watch that predictive text.

    4. The pretend libertarians are those siding with Marxists to destroy America through invasion by big government voters.

      Nick knows he’s on the side of the Marxists. You need to get with the program.

      Nick declares @Reason’s “core value” as Open Borders:
      In the 21st century, libertarians are going to have make common cause with the globalists of all parties, with the people whose core value is the right of individuals to move freely around the planet.

      https://reason.com/2019/04/12/steve-bannons-economic-nationalism-is-th/

      1. Those dastardly globalists…..

        1. They are vermin sucking the blood out of mankind.

          They intend to keep us as farm animals to feed off of til the end of time.

  13. So, all of you MAGA guys criticizing him, other than his assertion that Trump should be impeached (which I disagree with as well), what statements does he make that are incorrect? Looks to me like he hits a lot of nails right smack dab on the head…….

    1. The problem being is that they’re probably not libertarians, and they have TDS.

    2. In addition to the Comey firing, which I give a full-on mom’s basement style screed about below, the interpretation of Trump’s “relationship with Putin” as some sort of sycophantic puppet is monumentally stupid.

      For those who have not figured it out, Trump operates on an extremely simple methodology based on carrot and stick. He plays tit-for-tat (with defection) game theory. He always starts with obsequious praise. Always. Then if you respond with the same praise, things continue that way. If you don’t, he goes full-on hate rant. That’s his negotiating style. That’s his public relations style.

      It is not indicative of any “love of tyrants”. He acts the same way with fat Las Vegas magicians and musicians.

      1. Las Vegas magicians
        I’m now trying to imagine what Trump would like after Penn Jillette’s diet.

      2. Trump is also always looking to score deals. He basically ran for president to make money and for publicity. He whores himself to money and in the process allows people like Putin to buy him off. When he was a private citizens it was a different story when he took the Russian money but when he ran for office he was now trading on our foreign policy for that money. He invited the Russian meddling. The unprecedented nature of the Russian effort in 2016 is a consequence of that corruption. Russia would have never been as involved for any other candidate.

        1. You heard it here first! The Russians had nothing to do with Hillary, ever.

        2. We would usually ask for a citation but it’s clear you’re not serious.

        3. Unprecedented usage just exposes you as ignorant.

        4. Yeah, that’s not really it at all. If he ran into OG at the mall he’d brag about how great OG looks and how awesome OG is.

          Until OG said even the most mildly critical thing… then he’d say OG is fat and ugly and probably mildly retarded. That’s just how he plays the game.

          He had a huge feud with Penn Gillette over Penn saying he wouldn’t vote for Trump. Penn had been pretty complementary of Trump otherwise up until that point. But then Trump went nuclear. And apparently Penn plays the same tit-for-tat game, because Penn went full nuclear as well.

          Attributing it to anything else is just being blind to the obvious. You don’t need anything more complicated. This is Trump’s “how to win friends and influence people”. The arrangement is “I say you are great, and you say I am great”. This should be familiar to everyone working in Hollywood or in the media or with the press.

          1. So you’re saying trump would start with a lie and then quickly correct himself.

            1. No, I’m saying that he’d follow the formula. There is no lie or not lie involved. There is no knowledge as to the character of the other party at all. It is simply a game theory formula.

              It is one that is commonly followed throughout any industry that is dominated by public opinion and networking. The entire entertainment industry works this way.

              1. Which explains why the coastal elites and media are constantly in a state of fury. He’s unlike anything they’ve been exposed to in the public sector… to them he’s out of control yet… he’s not.

                1. Well, when you’re dealing with the Hollywood types, you’re dealing with a lot of narcissists who don’t get the reciprocity aspect of game theory and relationships. You say nice things about them, they criticize you, then you’re supposed to keep saying nice things about them because they’re better than you are and you should recognize that, no matter how they treat you.

                  And that’s worked for them in the past with Republican presidents, because most of them realize it’s not a fight where they’re going to win the celebrity over, so they just avoid it and the celebrity feels validated that their opinion is correct. Trump doesn’t let it pass…he tells them what he thinks of them, and they can’t handle it.

                  Great observation, Cyto.

        5. “He invited the Russian meddling. The unprecedented nature of the Russian effort in 2016 is a consequence of that corruption. Russia would have never been as involved for any other candidate.”

          Completely ignoring the fact that the Mueller indictment of the Russian operatives explicitly says that the objective was to create chaos. They (the Russians) also spread misinformation in a way that favored Bernie, among others.

          Ignoring facts because they don’t fit your preconceived political worldview is the kind of shit that Amash criticizes related to the two parties. Arguably, people like OG are doing the Russian’s work for them.

          1. The only documented “meddling” in the election that was done by Americans was done by the HRC for President campaign.

            They wholly took over the DNC, running it as a subsidiary of the HRC organization. They so fully tilted the Democrat primary that they had to fire the entire leadership once it was exposed. HRC stole the primary from Bernie.

            They also conspired with the media to push Trump as a candidate in the primaries, because they thought he would be easy to beat. Yes, this is fully documented in the Podesta emails, but you can simply look at the coverage of the primaries and the conduct of the primary debates for yourself.

            And of course we all know what happened with respect to “Russian Collusion”. Lately it has been a huge scandal that Trump said he’d listen if some foreign representative came to him and said they had dirt on a political opponent. Everyone in the punditry is jumping on their high-horse to preach about how unbelievable this is, and how no politician would ever do such a thing! Except Clinton, Podesta et. al. over at the DNC and HRC campaign not only took the call, they paid the exact same Russians for their help! That Russian lawyer that approached Trump Jr.? She worked for Fusion GPS! The same company that Clinton and the DNC paid millions to for the creation of the infamous Steele dossier.

            I share your bewilderment about this entire affair. The Russians said they were going to disrupt the election (and America) by sewing chaos. These folks are grabbing the baton and running with it, all while believing they are the saviors of democracy. We’ve spent the last 2.5 years decrying any involvement with Russians and finding dirt on your opponent. We now know that Trump didn’t, and the entire Democrat party did. Yet if the popular press is to be believed, nobody is questioning the Democrat party’s behavior, and doing so is an insanely partisan thing to do.

            1. Your posts are funny

              1. Yeah, but not “funny ha-ha”.

        6. So, Obama’s administration KNEW about their meddling, he told the intelligence community to “stand down” and it’s Trumps fault. Got it.

        7. Next thing you know he’ll be striking a backroom deal to sell a majority stake in American uranium mining interests to those evil R000000shuns!

    3. Justin Amash U.S. House (MI) – District 3, Republican voting record

      I think its weird for him to announce over the Congressional break and he was wrong about good cause to impeach Trump but his voting record is really good in trying to limit government.

      I wish him well but many Americans associate Independents (I) with Socialists, thanks to Bernie Sanders.

      1. His voting record shows he’s one of the best members of Congress. If Congress were composed entirely of clones of Amash we’d have a much better country.

        1. I agree with that.

          Still doesn’t change the fact that his talk of Trump impeachment wrecks a lot of his credibility.

        2. If Congress were composed entirely of clones of Amash we’d have a much better country.

          If Congress were composed entirely of clones of Amash, their voting records would be quite different from the way Amash voted.

      2. ” but his voting record is really good in trying to limit government.”

        Except for siding with the #DeepState coup and enabling Invasion USA of big government voters and a permanent big government electoral majority, Amash is totally trying to limit government.

        Nick sees it, if not all the implications. Coulter sees it, and sees the implications.

        The political divide is between Team Invasion USA and Team Stop Invasion USA.

        Countries are the people in a polity.
        Import Not Americans, Become Not America.

        Amash is on Team Invasion USA.

    4. For me the applauding the use of 702 to impeach on a poorly reasoned obstruction charge is just exposure of Amashs pride and lack of actual worth. Virtually his last 10 years was nothing but show votes. He named one post office. Congrats? He is the same prideful type as flake. He has an inability to take one step towards freedom because he thinks in absolute terms. Hes a joke.

      1. “He is the same prideful type as flake.”

        The Muh Moral Preening Party.

    5. What he “hits on the head” is that he’s now outted himself as a flaming RINO. That being the case, he’s doing the right thing. There’s no room in the GOP for people who think the way he thinks. Good riddance.

      1. you mean fiscal conservatives?

        1. That’s exactly what he means. Cutting spending is for cucks and soyboys!

          1. He means eunuchs, such as yourself – people who accomplish nothing, virtue signal, and are desperate for the approval of those whom pop culture shepherds have preaches to the masses as “cool”
            I guess it’s what one does when one has no friends in reality – suck up to abstracts by begging them for approval, so one can delude themself into thinking one actually has friends

            1. As an actual testicle that learned how to type, I wonder if it gives you some perverted pleasure to call people eunuchs? Don’t answer…I already know the answer.

              1. There’s only one person I call eunuch

          2. Amash has voted in approval of every major spending bill since Trump was elected. And congress controls the nation’s purse. But uh…

            1. Shhhhh. Idiots are ranting. Let CMW be.

            2. You got facts all over his Narrative!

            3. Amash has voted in approval of every major spending bill since Trump was elected.

              Shhhhh. Idiots are ranting. Let CMW be.

              You got facts all over his Narrative!

              What major spending bills has Amash voted for?

              https://votesmart.org/candidate/key-votes/105566/justin-amash#.XR7nBuhKiUk

    6. Besides collaborating in the #DeepState coup…

  14. GIT HIM! HE IS EXCAPING THE GOP PLANTATION!

    1. Everyone is waving him bye you fucking idiot.

    2. GOP voters were abandoning him when he sided with the #DeepState coup.

      He wasn’t escaping the plantation, he was escaping being run out of town on a rail.

  15. Any true patriot will hope that it rains on the Con Man’s military parade today on Red Square.

    1. Do you think the Con Man’s military parade is overcompensation for his #TinyMushroomDick?

      1. And LOLOLOLOLOLOL at “Red Square”! That’s awesome! Because as Mueller definitively proved, Drumpf has been a Russian asset since 1987.

        #TrumpRussia
        #LibertariansForGettingToughWithRussia

        1. Trump will know his parade is a success if Putin sports a boner in the guest box.

            1. Oh look, a “conversation” between sock puppets…how amusing.

            2. The Russian angle is a funny one.
              +1

    2. No rain July 4th.

      But July 5th will be a downpour of tears!

      1. What time is Fox-Pravda televising the Dotard’s show of military might?

        1. You’ll be too busy with your child porn anyways, so why ask?

        2. It’s scheduled to air right around the same time you pay your fucking bets.

          1. He’s too busy raping small children to do that.

      2. The same time as the propagandists come on CNN, NBC, ABC, and CBS to undermine the USA some more.

        1. That’s not fair, calling out those media outlets like that…

          There’s also MSNBC, CNBC, PBS, ESPN, NYT, WaPo, LAT….

      3. The God Emperor decides when it does and doesn’t rain.

    3. President’s Scheisskopf’s parade today will be televised!

    4. #HateAmericaFirst gonna hate America.

  16. […] anniversary of declaring independence from the stranglehold of King George, Michigan Congressman Justin Amash declared freedom from the stranglehold of the two-party system in this morning’s Washington […]

  17. scum. Runs as Conservative to get elected, then once in office, They typically become RINO’s . Infiltration plain and simple.

    1. Exactly right. I think others are correct – he is in cahoots with the Dems, trying to drain Michigan votes away from Trump in a key swing-vote state.

      1. Because there couldn’t possibly be a libertarian who dislikes both major parties out there.

        1. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug
          July.4.2019 at 9:22 am
          “Because there couldn’t possibly be a libertarian who dislikes both major parties out there.”

          There is certainly one lefty scumbag who luvs the Ds, lefty scumbag.

        2. One of his acolytes started a literal pac whose goal it was was to turn gop votes to democrats in Michigan you fucktard.

          1. I think I’m going to start posting here as ‘GreenNewDealitarian’ praising the new Amash/Democrat axis to save the planet

            1. That’s pretty good!

        3. Is Amash one of your child porn buddies or something?

      2. If his plan is to help Democrats, Libertarians will shun him like they do Bill Weld.

  18. I am glad he dumped the GOP. I hope more politicians of both parties follow suit (they won’t). There is no way AOC and Bernie belong in the same party as Biden. Paul and Graham? No way…

    But he’s wrong about a lot of his Trump hate (not that the overall conclusion not to support Trump is wrong). In particular, firing Comey isn’t the terrible transgression he makes it out to be. Comey participated in spying on an opposing party’s presidential candidate.

    This is the biggest scandal in Washington’s history, and right up until the moment it became publicly confirmed, everyone knew that. (remember the outrage when Trump suggested that Trump Tower was wiretapped? It was proof of his insanity – because everyone knew that this was impossible! There was absolutely no chance that any president, least of all the sainted President Obama, would ever do such a thing. Fast forward a few months and suddenly a huge chunk of the country completely forgets any notion of this and believes that wiretapping the Trump campaign was somehow not only unsurprising, it was actually a virtuous act.)

    Comey also participated in the witewashing of Hillary Clinton’s crimes. Yes, actual obstruction of justice was proven in their investigation. Not mentioning that an investigation was getting off track and calling for investigators to get focus and come to a conclusion, but actual destruction of evidence. And instead of stepping up and saying that the AG should appoint a prosecutor, he appoints himself the prosecutor’s chair. And then he gives that ludicrous speech where he details her crimes, but says “no reasonable prosecutor would ever bring these charges”. That’s just inexcusable. If you don’t have the evidence to charge her, you don’t go out and say she’s guilty. But he had the evidence, he was just being a good soldier – except he was playing both sides. If he was actually such a straight shooter, he would have resigned in protest when the AG killed the case. (remember, his buddy Mueller prosecuted Flynn for lying to the FBI when the actual agents he supposedly lied to said that they did not think he was lying and had no evidence that he knew he was lying when he spoke to them. But we are supposed to buy that line of crap that no prosecutor would prosecute someone when they had iron-clad evidence that they had committed multiple felonies. Yeah, right)

    Either of those should have been enough to say “fire that guy”. Depending on his level of involvement, spying on the Trump campaign and feeding the information gleaned to political operatives in the Obama white house should put him in prison. (IF you take them at their word, just the simple decision to spy on Trump and look for ways to prosecute people who are being targeted by foreign agents rather than notify the Trump campaign and working with them to block foreign infiltration of the campaign is enough to get rid of him).

    So Amash isn’t just simply wrong on that one, he is indefensibly wrong.

    1. Well said.

    2. “In particular, firing Comey isn’t the terrible transgression he makes it out to be.”

      The transgression was Trump not firing Comey and everyone else involved with the Clinton exoneration on his first day of office.

      He should have wiped out the top level DeepState managers across the board.

      1. My wildest dream was that Trump would fire 70% of the federal government.
        Alas, we take what we can get

        1. I think it was Bannon who was floating breaking up the Imperial Metropolis and spreading it throughout the country.
          Add to that term limits on federal employ, and maybe the Deep State could be broken up as the increasingly hereditary class that it is.

  19. As usual, empty political platitudes with a progressive bend from Amash, and a total inability to get things done.

    As for the two party system, it’s like democracy itself: the worst system until you’ve tried all the others. Like all his other policies, Amash’s temper tantrums don’t constitute a coherent criticism or propose real alternatives, they are just empty sound bites. And in the cases that have divided Amash from the GOP, he was mostly either simply wrong on principle or wrong in terms of real politics.

    Amash: good riddance. We don’t need jerks like you wrapping themselves in the mantle of liberty while thinking like a technocrat. Even if you get replaced by a Democrat, at least they are honest in their embrace of socialism and social justice, and their contempt for liberty and liberal values. You just quietly sabotage them and are too immature and naive to even realize it.

    1. Whoever is replacing him will be much worse. And you complain about political platitudes, but the politicians you love commit the same errors.
      Fags, I swear.

      1. Even AOC wouldn’t be worse than Amash, incompetent, greedy, and authoritarian that she is, at least she doesn’t pretend to be something she is not.

        As for the “politicians I love”, there are none; you’re delusional.

        Nice touch, though, to add personal insults. Are you just a socially conservative prick, or are you a progressive beating up on people they claim to represent?

        1. Yup. When reason picks their champions, “other politicians are worse”… “Whoever is replacing him will be much worse”…

          Matt Welch has interviewed Bill Weld, Justin Amash and Beto and does not ask challenging questions. I guess because of the fear that asking challenging questions will lead to less interviews. Instead reason is just a propaganda outlet for these non-Libertarians.

        2. You have conjured a caricature of Amash such that you think AOC is (more) honest. AOC pretends she’s a heroine of the working class; she pretends she knows what the fuck she’s talking about; she pretends that she isn’t going to ruin many lives if any of her radical plans were enacted. She’s a specious insect-woman. I’m not saying Amash is some fucking epitome of integrity, (He’s a politician.) but he’s a hell of a lot more sincere than she.
          As for the “politicians I love”, there are none; you’re delusional.
          Fair enough.
          Nice touch, though, to add personal insults. Are you just a socially conservative prick, or are you a progressive beating up on people they claim to represent?
          Whichever makes you feel better, faglord.

          1. I don’t get that criticism either. Amash is exactly as he has always been, and is strongly driven by first principles.

            On the topic of Trump, he’s let his personal animus overtake any instinct to disassociate actions from personality, but that’s not entirely inexcusable. It isn’t like Trump was any libertarian’s first choice. Or second choice. Or third….. (and if you look out our history of nominating presidential candidates, maybe we shouldn’t be casting any stones…)

            1. He was actually my fourth choice, after Paul exited early, Gary Johnson showed he couldn’t keep it together to handle even softball questions (I’m firmly convinced he had a nervous breakdown in that campaign), and Ted Cruz lost. But I’ll say that Trump has far exceeded my expectations of not only him, but of any of those other guys had they won. Best ballot I’ve ever cast…and best candidate I’ve ever given money to (the only one, in fact).

            2. I don’t get that criticism either. Amash is exactly as he has always been, and is strongly driven by first principles.

              In other words, it was more important to Amash to demonstrate to the world how principled he was than to actually advance the cause of liberty in the US.

              The problem with Amash wasn’t that he pretended to be libertarian-leaning; that is probably a fair characterization of his beliefs. The problem with Amash is that he pretended to be a libertarian-leaning politician, because that requires actual compromise and strategy, not just blind insistence on principles.

              1. Yeah, libertarian and compromise or strategy don’t go together. We don’t even agree that anyone else is a true libertarian, because everyone else compromises on some principle or another.

                1. Amash abandoned all pretenses on being principled when he called for impeachment. Suddenly in this new #wokatarian world investigations and spying are good because they might exonerate you, entrapment is good because it might protect you from foreign influence, and process crimes are a thing.

          2. You have conjured a caricature of Amash such that you think AOC is (more) honest. […] but he’s a hell of a lot more sincere than she.

            I’m not talking about whether they cheat at cards or lie about their college degrees.

            Amash says he cares about liberty, but when push comes to shove, he hides behind principles. He isn’t willing to make the personal sacrifices and face the attacks that would result from accomplishing something in politics. That’s also why you get these whiny complaints from him about hyperpartisanship. He suffers from the delusion that somehow politics is, or should be, a rational, objective search for the truth, rather than a dirty fight, and he doesn’t want to get dirty.

            AOC, on the other hand, is quite clear about what she wants to do: she wants the jackboot of government to stomp down on everybody’s neck and take everybody’s stuff. And AOC takes the personal and political risks necessary to accomplish that goal, reprehensible as that goal is.

            1. Yup. And the entire delusion about politics is simple ignorance based in the “good old days” myth. There were never good old days where politicians all got chummy and debated. Politics has always been a knife fight…you win by outfighting your opponent. When he wins, you plunge the knife into his back if you can. The only limiting principle used to be that you didn’t try to tear the entire country apart in the process, but the Democrats appear to have abandoned that entirely.

              Amash never got that it was a fight. He’s dangerously inept and naive in that regard. And that’s why his *only* accomplishment in politics was renaming a post office, He didn’t have the brains or the stones to figure out how to do more. Good riddance…although I’m sure he’ll kill his credibility entirely by running for the LP nomination for President so he can get 1% of the vote.

        3. “Even AOC wouldn’t be worse than Amash, incompetent, greedy, and authoritarian that she is, at least she doesn’t pretend to be something she is not.”

          Holy shit.

          1. Just to be clear: the reason why AOC being honest about what she is is that one can fight against her and attack her for her evil policies.

            1. Right.
              You won’t see a bunch of shallow ass “liberaltarians” defending her. She won’t trick a bunch of Michigan conservatives into voting for her.
              She may be batshit crazy and stupid, but she has more integrity than Amash.
              At least she never to be anything but a state supremacist, unlike the congressman

      2. The guy replacing him in the Republican Party probably won’t be for Open Borders Uber Alles.

        Hence, an improvement.

    2. Ron Paul never “got anything done” either, but he’s the best Congressman America ever had.

      1. No, he wasn’t,

        1. Yes, he was. Amash is a close second.

          1. Something about Jew-hating congressmen who mouth platitudes while doing nothing just gets Chipper oh so moist.

  20. Tentative 2019 Legislative Schedule

    Haha. Amash waits to announce until Congress is out of session between July 1-5, 2019. He does not actually have his membership with the GOP removed or whatever it takes to not be a (R) anymore before announcing.

    Whatever dude. Good luck.

    He has a decent record of voting against government expansion but he is dead wrong about good cause for impeaching Trump.

    Dollars to doughnuts, he becomes (D).

    1. No chance. He’s on the other side of the Republican party from the Democrats.

      Ideally we should have a Conservative party, a SoCon party, a Libertarian party, a Progressive party, a Green party, an NAACP party… and for all of the mainstream politicians of the current system, we need the “Big Government” party. Or maybe the “Crony Capitalist” party.

      1. Because Europe has that and their governments are run so competently,

        1. They have parliamentary systems that form a government out of the coalitions that are elected. It makes for a lot more chaos – but it also ensures that the chief executive has the support of the legislature.

          I suspect that the american system would look far different with multiple parties. The presidency might become a lot more powerful with a fragmented congress.

          Interestingly, a third party that could garner enough seats to swing the vote in congress could be the most powerful operator in the US system. Even 5 seats in the senate would be enough. Maybe 40 in the house would ensure that they could call all the shots.

          1. I have a suspicion that if we had that, what would really happen is a paralyzed legislature and chief executive with a civil bureaucracy run amok whenever it takes time to form a coalition government.

            Just look what the civil bureaucracy tried to pull off in the last election, after all.

          2. And parliamentary systems are way to efficient at enacting new laws. That’s a bug and not a feature.

          3. I suspect that the american system would look far different with multiple parties. The presidency might become a lot more powerful with a fragmented congress.

            And a presidency unchecked by a fragmented legislature is a good thing… how?

            Interestingly, a third party that could garner enough seats to swing the vote in congress could be the most powerful operator in the US system.

            And there, in a nutshell, do you have the problem with multi-party systems: small parties get a disproportionate amount of power.

            You have given two excellent reasons for why multi-party systems suck.

      2. Ideally we should have a Conservative party, a SoCon party, a Libertarian party, a Progressive party, a Green party, an NAACP party… and for all of the mainstream politicians of the current system, we need the “Big Government” party. Or maybe the “Crony Capitalist” party.

        And what does that accomplish? What good does it do when ten parties with about 10% each of the vote bicker in Congress? What kind of insane horse trading do you think those parties will engage in to bring home the bacon for each of their voters? You only have to look at Europe to see what a prescription for failure that is.

    2. Dead On right he will caucus with the Democrats!
      We witnessed this behavior after the 2000 election with Jumpin’ Jeffords of Vermont. Dare to disagree with me about RINO’s like Justin ‘Amess’ if you can cite the DEMs (DINOS) that switched parties in the last 40 years to degrade their majority holding.
      Anything less in your argument proves you are a CNN or DEM troll!

      1. To be precise, On May 24th of 2001 from the WikiEP, Jumpin’ Jeffords said “I will make this change and will caucus with the Democrats for organizational purposes once the conference report on the tax bill is sent to the President. I gave my word to the President that I would not intercept or try to intervene in the signing of that bill.” Sadly, Justin ‘Amess’ will disrupt any all legislative process at the whim of the MSM.

    3. Amash becomes a D in time to run as a D in 2020.

      He’ll stall for a while with the “independent” bs to try to paper over his betrayal of the Republicans who put him in office.

  21. Finally, a patriot with the cajones to stand up to a corrupt system. I certainly don’t agree with you on everything, Mr. Amash, but you are the one thing America has going for it in Congress. I pity the pathetic, trolling DeRps here. Those creatures are dying and rightly so. Go Justin!

    1. Really? How is Amash “standing up”? He had no problem coming to power under this current system, and he is leaving the GOP only now that there is no benefit to him anymore. Seems pretty opportunistic to me.

      1. +100

      2. He is hardly in power. Pretty much every bill he introduced has been defeated.

        If he wanted more power he would not be doing this.

        Nobody here needs to gloat about him throwing his career away. I do not think he is worried about that. Congress was not supposed to be a permanent job.

        So agree with him or not he is taking a stand on principle.

        1. “Taking a stand” usually implies that one has something to lose, something they’re putting at risk for their principle.
          Amash doesn’t have that. He’s not risking anything, his career was already put out to pasture.
          Seems less “taking a stand” and more “bitching on the way out”

        2. He is hardly in power.

          Well, he got a bunch of congressional sinecures and he is building a network that will be useful in the private sector and future lobbying activities.

          So agree with him or not he is taking a stand on principle.

          I have no idea what his “principles” are. He is certainly not a principled libertarian. At best, he favors a haphazard and inconsistent set of “small government” policies.

      3. Amash says Trump should be impeached, but doesn’t submit a bill to impeach him.

        By his own stated standards, he’s betraying the Constitution. He’s a blowhard.

    2. Usually those who want to stand up to a system will recruit and convince others to join then. Him and flake dont make an imposing power couple.

    3. Justin ‘Amess’ is anything but a patriot! He was mortgaged as a RINO and now a full paid off establishment creature of the Deep State. We never see this happens with DEMs because they would make an example of such defectors from their goal of One Party Rule.

    4. Go talk to the nurse about a diaper change and another shot of thorazine Hihn.

  22. I just wonder if Matt Welch was “on call” for news alerts like this or he drew the short straw.

    1. reason staff said we would not get any propaganda until Monday July 8 because of the Independence Holiday.

  23. Congressman Justin Amash’s mother is a Syrian American; so if he does become a Libertarian Party presidential candidate, he will probably know where Aleppo is.

    1. still likely not

    2. Hopefully, Justin ‘Amess’ will soon fully identify with the hell hole of Aleppo.

      1. No intent to incite violent behavior, just the analogous political condition!

    3. The only country Amash gives a fuck about is China.

    1. DITTO! RINO’s beware after what you see happens to him.
      Here in the Great State of Alaska, we have Muskrat turncoat Republicans, Cathy ‘the Weisel’ Republican, Lisa the ‘McCain’ RINO senator and others just to name a few. All hiding their true leanings for political ambition at the ruin of their constituents!

  24. Endless wars, endless expansion of the federal government, endless accumulation of debt, endless cronyism, and the list goes on. Yeah, the two-party system is just working out SO good these days…. Thanks, Mr. Amash. I don’t agree with you all the time, but on these issues, you are dead-on target.

    1. Wrong! Your’e Dead Wrong because your side failed to produce such defections during the 8 years of the One when all that you said was going on at a worse pace, and to the detriment of the nation.
      Trump is fixing the failure that all of you want to stop.
      Lying about him and his agenda is all anyone needs to know about your disingenuous position!

      1. I actually don’t have a “side” except my own, so I am not sure to what you refer. When I refer to out-of-control debt, government expansion, endless cronyism, I am speaking primarily of the last twenty years, though I did “vacate” the Ds and the Rs back in 1983 or so. These three issues predate the current crop of statists by decades, back to Eisenhower and before, but they have become markedly worse (or so it seems), in the post-9/11 world. Reagan is the only president, in retrospect, for whom I wished I had voted. Far from perfect, for sure, but the best President during my adult life. Again, you have no idea who my “side” is.

  25. A previous president was actually impeached for firing a popular cabinet member. So it isn’t beyond the realm of possibility that the House look into impeaching a president for merely trying to remove an official who was similarly beloved by the majority party in the House.
    As I recall, didn’t Amash simply call for impeachment hearings into the obstruction charges without saying how he would vote once all the facts and opinions were discussed in the House?

    1. Nope. Amash implied straight guilt without any evidence outside of the report. He said trump knowingly acted with corrupt intention. He had already determined guilt.

      Heres the problem with amash… he was more set on charging trump for obstruction crimes than he was in unwinding or finding the corruption behind the entire steele dossier. Which one is more corrupt? An innocent person declaring their innocence or the use of government power to destroy a political opponent?

      1. Which one is more corrupt? An innocent person declaring their innocence or the use of government power to destroy a political opponent?

        Which one results in the Bad Orange Man leaving office and Saint HIllary ascending to her rightful throne?

  26. Am I the only one who is tired of the overuse of the phrase ‘existential threat’? You can’t go a day without something being described as such.

    1. No, I’m sick of it too “Existential” used to be a cool word that led one to the path of nothingness.

      1. Good name for a Kentucky derby entrant.

      2. Sarah Palin’s Buttplug
        July.4.2019 at 9:59 am
        “No, I’m sick of it too “Existential” used to be a cool word that led one to the path of nothingness.”

        Not nearly as much as we’re sick of you.

  27. “…Trump’s congressional nemesis…”

    Matt, you and five others remember this guy’s name when he isn’t grandstanding in one way or the other.
    He’s a “nemesis” like a single mosquito at a picnic.

    1. Not to mention that aside from naming a post office, his entire role in the legislative process could have been accomplished by an empty chair.

  28. […] in the April 2020 Republican primary for Michigan’s 3rd Congressional District. According to Reason, Amash is expected to file papers to run for re-election as an […]

  29. This guy is a worthless putz; and now that he’s killed any chances for re-election – he needs to get a real job.

    1. No surprise here… Just another Jumpin’ Jeffords like back in 2000!

    2. Don’t worry, he’ll make plenty of money on K street buying and selling favors from China. And if his daddy’s business that finances his lifestyle just happens to benefit, well, where’s the harm in that?

  30. […] in the April 2020 Republican primary for Michigan’s 3rd Congressional District. According to Reason, Amash is expected to file papers to run for re-election as an […]

  31. Incredibly sad day when Reasonistas are decrying Amash as a secret progressive mole who’s on the Team Blue payroll as a means to take Michigan back.

    He’s one of the very few actual libertarians in Congress, yet is being crucified for not loving Trump enough. On a libertarian page.

    1. Another sock.

      Hes as libertarian as a child. What did he actually do in Congress? Show votes. Let’s anoint him king!

      1. His votes pretty strongly align with what most libertarians would do.

        I mean, short of voting “Fuck off, Slaver!” at every roll call vote.

        1. Now do impeachment. He completely abandoned core principles when he called for that.

    2. Justin ‘Amess’ is libertarian as Alexandria O Cortez is capitalist!
      Give me a ‘Friggen’ break.

    3. Amash is on Team Blue = Open Border Uber Alles

  32. […] in the April 2020 Republican primary for Michigan’s 3rd Congressional District. According to Reason, Amash is expected to file papers to run for re-election as an […]

  33. […] in the April 2020 Republican primary for Michigan’s 3rd Congressional District. According to Reason, Amash is expected to file papers to run for re-election as an […]

  34. As long as politics runs on money, there will be only two effective parties. The secret is to get rid of the money. The historical reason for all the money was the need “to get our message out to the people” through ads and (overpriced, first class) trips to the hustings.
    However, we now have the technology to provide everyone with all the political candidate’s information, biography, and political philosophy in one place, the mighty world wide web. First we outlaw all contributions of any kind to any political candidate. Then the feds set up a dot-gov web site with equal amounts of space for each candidate, from as many parties as wish to participate. The candidates publish whatever they wish; thoughtful political philosophies, crass campaign slogans, whatever. The campaign season runs for 10 weeks, giving the press a chance to pander and spin, and we vote.
    The politicians don’t (can’t) need to spend time campaigning, so they might actually read a few of the laws they pass. There will be no need for political ads, so the public will be spared that agony.
    As a small side benefit, the tax form will also get simpler by one item.

    1. Is there a practical path to achieve this wishful thinking?

      1. Sure…. just ban all political speech, excepting for said state-run forums.

        Simple, right?

      2. The only way it can happen is via a catch-22. The politicians that are successful at the current system, need to change the system they are successful at. In other words, it will never happen.

        1. The much, much bigger “it will never happen” moment is the underlying assumption that “the press” as it exists (or ever has existed” is actually a version of “the 4th estate”. It isn’t.

          So if you dropped his solution in place, fully implemented today, what you’d have is a unanimous chorus of DNC voices in the press working as extensions of the DNC candidates – with only Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity to preach to their own choir. Instead of using their campaigns to get the message out, they’d have to set up independent groups to do their messaging for them.

          In other words, it ain’t gonna work..

          The only way to solve the problem is to A) allow free speech, meaning actually respecting the first amendment and its principles… and B) reduce the scope and power of the government so the incentives toward corruption are reduced.

          That’s it. Of course, that ain’t happenin’ either….

          1. 17th amendment has to be repealed.
            All else is hopeless with popular election of senators

      3. Yes. Increase the size of the House as part of the 2020 apportionment. Back to 210,000 constituents/district (the number we had in 1912 when the house was frozen at its current size) or better 100,000 / district to account for expansion of suffrage.

        None of the other stuff mentioned is necessary. Simply changing representation back to a human scale will change the nature of elections, big money influence, voter information, challengership, ‘party influence’ v ‘district influence’, the proportion of elected critters v unelected staffers, etc.

        It is no accident or coincidence that our federal government is the most corrupt and least accountable and largest on Earth. That was the whole fucking point of freezing the House a century ago. The elected House was the one ornery messy unreliable unpredictable part of the federal system then. Far better to keep the elected part of the House small and increasingly dependent – so that the unelected unaccountable corruptible staffer side can grow like kudzu.

        1. This is a good point.

          And only a couple of nutcases on the internet even know that this point exists. Nobody is treating it seriously.

          Perhaps there is insanity involved…. if all of the “sensible” ideas are so completely crazy that there are not enough people willing to consider such ideas to fill the corner table at a Denny’s… maybe it is the sensible folk who are insane…

          1. Odd thing is – I’ve found the mere mention of this triggers an aha moment with the overwhelming majority of people I’ve spoken with. Everyone recognizes this as the way that THEIR OWN representation can be improved – and not merely at someone else’s expense. Very few even need the long explanation why.

            People who lean third-party who see a better chance of persuading a smaller district. People who are loyalist DeRp but live in a district where their side can never win the general. People who are loyalist DeRp in a district where their side will always win but where they might be inclined to primary their incumbent to get a ‘truer’ DeRp critter. People who no longer vote because ‘voting only encourages them’. Media and ‘good govt’ type orgs (like LWV) who see it as something that isn’t just partisan hackery/PR.

            Everyone except those who are overtly duopoly party establishment and status quo. This issue only becomes an actionable campaign type issue every 10 years in the ‘0 and ‘2 elections. Otherwise it’s just too wonkish. But the potential for this option to go viral in those years when it’s relevant is enormous.

        2. It is no accident or coincidence that our federal government is the most corrupt and least accountable and largest on Earth.

          That is a special kind of stupid even for you. But let’s say it’s true. The problem is that it’s the unaccountable civil “servants” and not the lack of even more abdicating representatives.

          1. More representatives amounts to a diffusion of federal power and authority.

            1. It amounts to concentrating power into bodies that aren’t bothered by those pesky elections.

              1. Dude… congressmen aren’t elected? The fuck?

                1. The people who wield real power and are most corrupt are the career bureaucrats in executive agencies, and they don’t face elections.
                  That is his point

                  1. Those bureaucrats are corrupted by the EXACT SAME people who corrupt the legislature. Using the EXACT SAME lobbying processes for both bureaucrats and congressional staffers. That is then nailed down into corrupted action by gaining access to the third entity – the elected critter – via – as an overtly corrupt lobbyist (Jack Abramoff) explains:

                    Access is vital in lobbying. If you can’t get in your door, you can’t make your case. Here we had a hostile senator, whose staff was hostile, and we had to get in. So that’s the lobbyist safe-cracker method: throw fundraisers, raise money, and become a big donor.

                    Increase the number of elected critters and you exponentially increase the cost of influencing them. And exponentially again if that critter is no longer as interested in big donors cuz they don’t need them for their district. How much more expensive do you think lobbying becomes if K street has to open lobbying branches in tons of districts and go ‘grassroots’?

                    Lobbying/corruption needs all three of those legs – because those bureaucrats are mostly self-interested in FUNDING not a lobbyists corruption ideas.

    2. Money is what allows people other than the permanent ruling class to have some say in politics.

  35. Amash is a dunce. If you ask a liberal for a thumbnail sketch of what his solution is, he just stutters and obfuscates. Liberals have no solutions. They are intellectually vacuous, with a penchant for whining.

  36. Don’t let the door hit you in the HEAD………………..

  37. LOL. It’s like the Trumpistas and the TDS sufferers on here aren’t intellectually capable of understanding that they’re just making Amash’s point for him.

    “Don’t criticize the Dear Leader!”

    “If you oppose the Democratic lunacy, you’re a fascist!”

    1. Sad how much people insist on the red/blue divide even here. Although it could just be a lot of haters chasing his name across the Internet.

    2. Shallow thinkers praise Amash.
      I guess if you’re part of the words=violence crowd, he’s been ok

    3. It’s like the wokatarians aren’t intellectually capable of understanding that their hypocrisy makes an ant hill out of their supposed principles.

    4. BoTH SiDEs!1!!1!eleventy!

    5. LOL. It’s like the Trumpistas and the TDS sufferers on here aren’t intellectually capable of understanding that they’re just making Amash’s point for him.

      I didn’t see a lot of defense of Trump.

      The problem actually is that you are such a partisan that you see any rejection of a blowhard like Amash as a defense of Trump.

  38. “… Amash announced in a Washington Post op-ed that he’s leaving the GOP and declaring himself an independent.”

    Translation: Democrats don’t want him either.

  39. He’s just trying to save face because he knows he’s going to lose his next election. He should have just slunk on over to the Democrat Party. He’s certainly corrupt and cowardly enough to fit right in.

    1. Corrupt? In what way would you say he’s corrupt?

      Cowardly? Exactly how is he cowardly? Standing up to your entire party is cowardly? Finally giving them the finger and leaving over disagreements on principle is cowardly?

      1. He’s doing the Republican equivalent of the left’s “anybody to the right of Fidel Castro is a Nazi”. No point in trying to ask a logical question. These people’s minds are too fucked up by politics to realize that they’re just proving Amash’s point.

        1. “Libertarians for deep state supremacy”

        2. “Mind too fucked up by politics” is a great phrase. I am going to appropriate that. I guess I could be angry at the ignorance of people like that, but it’s just sad. It’s like seeing a pig living a life stuck in a cage so small that it can’t even turn around. All a sane person can feel is profound sadness and pity.

      2. Corrupt? In what way would you say he’s corrupt?

        He supports an unaccountable federal bureaucracy and intelligence apparatus using campaign oppo to impeach the president. He sucks ass on the authoritarian Chinese government because it benefits his daddy’s business and hence his trust fund.

        Cowardly? Exactly how is he cowardly?

        Trying to save your career as a public leech by pandering to simple minded fuckstains like you instead of bowing out gracefully when it is apparent that your constituents no longer support you is about as cowardly and low life as it fucking gets.

        1. Yeah, I can’t see any of that. Bowing out gracefully can be brave, but if you are leaving because of great conflict over principles (instead of simply failing to win personal support), I’d say making a stink about it is the principled stand.

          And the China thing is more complex – but I’ll concede that he’s at least open to criticism because of familial ties.

          1. If eunuch worships someone, you can be damn sure they’re a coward

          2. What is complicated.

            Tekton tools is a lower cost brand of hand tools. They sell a lot of socket sets. Would not be looking there for drill bits.

            They have manufacturing in China, Taiwan and Michigan.

            Why is that a problem.

            1. Not the China ties, the opposition to tariffs and trade wars, with China as the particular case.

              Comprehending Trump’s position on trade requires a bit of imagination (because he’s not exactly putting out a detailed position on what the end result will be). So it is pretty easy to have a principled stand against the tariffs without any need to invoke personal financial entanglements. But one could also imagine a counter argument where the Trump path is the path to more free trade – using a little imagination.

              And even without the opaque nature of Trump’s negotiating tactics, trade is a very complicated topic. So proclaiming any position to be disingenuous is a bit dicey.

  40. On the one hand I’m excited for him, on the other I’m afraid he’s depth-charged his chances of being reelected. But anything is possible these days.

  41. This is from Breitbart, so take it with a grain of salt:

    “Amash is polling at just 17 percent in the GOP primary, trailing State Rep. Jim Lower by double digits. Lower, who announced his candidacy as Amash revealed his support for impeaching Trump, is at 27 percent–a 10-point lead over Amash. What’s more, another Amash challenger, State Rep. Lynn Afendoulis, is tied with the congressman for 17 percent–meaning one challenger to the incumbent representative is beating him by double digits and a second is already tied with him.”

    https://www.breitbart.com/politics/2019/07/03/exclusive-michigan-poll-justin-amash-underwater-beneath-20-percent-trails-challenger-by-double-digits/

    It’s so easy to become principled when your chances of being reelected as a Republican have gone down the shitter. It would certainly be an extraordinary claim to think that Amash leaving Republicans behind and Amash getting clobbered in the primary polls were unrelated.

    This is what happens when people commit political suicide. It’s sad because I don’t think he realized he was committing political suicide. He’s young for a politician, and he had a bright future. Now his future looks like Gary Johnson’s. And Gary Johnson’s future involves a lot of golf and skiing.

    1. And weed. Johnson smokes a lot of weed. Did you not see his “endorsement” of that New York Libertarian candidate where Johnson couldn’t keep it together for a ten-second canned speech?

      I don’t think Amash had a bright future of any kind. He was in the House quite awhile and got nothing meaningful accomplished. He had no following, the Freedom Caucus he founded booted him because he wasn’t consequential enough to keep around once he became a problem, and his position on impeachment and obstruction (as well as the Obama administration’s horrifying abuses of power) showed he wasn’t principled,

      Amash was just a malcontent who didn’t accomplish much. Nothing more, nothing less. Eventually those people get figured out,

      1. He was a young, smart guy from an important swing state. He could have made a name for himself, run for governor of Michigan–and he’d have been a prime candidate for Vice President on someone else’s ticket if he didn’t win the nomination himself.

        Amash can’t do the libertarians any more favors as a losing LP candidate than he could as a leading voice in the Republican party. Now he’s thrown that away–and for nothing. It might have made sense if he were doing this for some effect, some outcome, but his futile gesture was of no consequence whatsoever.

        If you’re going kamikaze, you don’t need to take out an aircraft carrier, but, for goodness’ sake, hit something. Amash crashed his plane into the ocean for no reason. Nothing was gained. No minds were changed. It’s just a waste. As silly and stupid as Ron Paul was over the years, he knew better than to throw away his seat.

        If he comes in third in his own primary, he probably can’t even generate enough support to play spoiler for Trump in Michigan.

        It’s probably telling if Amash didn’t realize he was committing political suicide. If he doesn’t understand the political implications of his own choices and their likely consequences, then he probably had no business being a truly powerful politician. People far younger than he is knew that he’d committed political suicide as soon as he did it.

        1. I think he is somebody who was smart but who lacked wisdom. The latter is more important in politics. Smart but unwise people in politics generally get used for other people’s agendas…which, I would say, is what happened to Amash.

        2. Amash knows what Nick knows and Coulter knows.

          Politics is Team Invasion USA vs. Team Stop Invasion USA.

          Amash is on the former, and likely had no future within the Republican Party if the Coup failed. It failed. He bailed.

      2. A malcontent who didn’t accomplish much.

        This is a libertarian site. Get used to it.

        1. If libertarians ever become truly influential in everyday policy, it’ll be because our agenda is picked up by the Republican party.

          Amash is going in exactly the wrong direction. This is what libertarians losing looks like. We had a seat at the table.

          1. Our agenda will be picked up by the Republican Party.

            That ship sailed long ago.

            1. I don’t know. If you just go off of things that are generally good for libertarians, we now have a President who avoids war as a first option, a massive deregulation of the economy, a Supreme Court justice (Gorsuch) who is pretty fantastic on individual and property rights (much better than the guy he replaced), and the economy is doing really well.

              I’d say that libertarian ideals already snuck into the GOP. Even if Trump isn’t a libertarian, he’s at least somewhat friendly to those ideals, which is a major improvement over the last four guys.

              1. With the Buckley Reagan conservatives there was a way.

                That door is closed.

              2. Yep. Thanks to LP spoiler votes the gerontocracy is abandoning socialist collectivism. The GOP is now 165 years old, the Dems 227, and the LP but a lusty 48, vote share tripled on a sigmoid substitution curve.

            2. “Our agenda will be picked up by the Republican Party.”

              Did you ever read the appendix to “Free to Choose”. FDR lifted the platform of the communist party and enacted it. That’s the way this stuff happens in systems with single member districts.

              I didn’t say it’s happening soon or indeed will happen. I said, “[IF IF] if libertarians ever become truly influential in everyday policy, it’ll be because our agenda is picked up by the Republican party”.

              That’s the path to power. It’s the idea that we’ll overcome the strategic disadvantages of single member districts to third parties that is absurd. Perot got almost 20% of the vote–and zero votes in the electoral college. He put exactly no one in the federal government. Thinking we can do as well as he did despite single member districts is ludicrous. Thinking that the Republicans will adopt our policy prescriptions if and when they become sufficiently popular isn’t ludicrous at all.

              https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Duverger%27s_law

              Because of single member districts and Duverger’s Law, by way of the Republican party is the only way we’re likely to get everyday influence at the policy table–and getting people like Amash and Rand Paul elected is evidence of that in action.

              Amash foolishly throwing his influence away is sad, but that’s a personal failure–not a refutation of the strategy. Why pretend that libertarianish ideas can’t grow and have influence in the Republican party–when we’re in a thread about how Amash took that influence and threw it away for no good reason?

              He could have made a name for himself. He could have run for governor and then President. He’s so young, he had more time to build himself into the next Ronald Reagan as anybody–and he stupidly threw that away. Hopefully, other libertarianish Republicans won’t be so foolish, but that’s no knock on the overall strategy.

              1. Since when do you or I have a voice about what he does or does not do.

          2. Libertarians who want Invasion USA are destined to be fighting for seats on the Left with the Neocons.

            Globalists to the Left.
            Populist Nationalists to the Right.

            1. America first
              Or
              Citizens of the world

              The former might not fit your ideals perfectly, there might be some compromise, but it’s the path of self government.
              The latter gets you progress uber alles, open borders, “free” trade, corporatism – but also global socialism and endless wars of “altruism”. Well, endless at least until the global totalitarian government is set

    2. He’s young for a politician, and he had a bright future.

      Yeah, he could have spent another 50 years fucking us in our collective assholes and cashing half million dollar a year checks for it.

  42. Author stated the Amish piece “…does not mention the president by name.”

    It certainly does, however, in all but name. But he does it by quoting George Washington warning of Trump’s Presidency:

    “It serves always to distract the public councils and enfeeble the public administration. It agitates the community with ill-founded jealousies and false alarms, kindles the animosity of one part against another, foments occasionally riot and insurrection. It opens the door to foreign influence and corruption, which finds a facilitated access to the government itself through the channels of party passions. Thus the policy and the will of one country are subjected to the policy and will of another.”

    1. Funny, because it would be pretty easy to read that paragraph and think of another political party and its operatives.

      1. Which is, not coincidentally, Amash’s point.

        1. And yet he’s reserved the entirety of his criticism for one party, and one man from that party, while he sat with his thumb up his ass for 8 years with his lips surgically attached to Obama’s asshole.

    2. “…does not mention the president by name.”

      Amash is a typical intellectual coward. He’ll fit in fine with the Left. It’s always argument by innuendo with them, so they can backpedal when called on their bullshit.

  43. I wonder how Amash would react if he came into his elected seat and was immediately accused of a crime he knows he’s innocent of…called a traitor, a Nazi and had to endure two solid years of these accusations in the form of collusion between the national media (which is supposed to be unbiased) and the opposition party trying to overturn the election results.

    I guess we know…Justin Amash would have dutifully pulled down his pants, laid on his back, tossed up his legs and allowed his political enemies to, well, you know…

    1. Which is pretty much exactly what Trump did.

      He cooperated with all investigations and ordered all of his people to do the same. He authorized the spending of tens of millions of dollars on the investigation, with no oversight of the direction or conduct of the investigators.

      The only “fighting” he did was to bitch about the fact that it was taking too long, both in the media and privately, and complain that it was a politically motivated witch hunt. Oh, and he didn’t fall for the perjury/false statements trap and stayed away from an in-person interview.

      1. Well, once the coward Republicans agreed to the Special Council Trump did all he could save for firing Mueller which was arguably not politically feasible.

        Amash would have resigned and given Democrats and the media their scalp.

        It’s funny that Amash decries partisanship that divides and dehumanizes yet has absolutely nothing to say to the Democratic Party which has perfected dehumanization, destruction, political decapitation of those who oppose them.

        1. I agree that the Republicans were cowards, but perhaps for a different reason.

          In the face of political attacks about Russian manchurian candidates, they wilted and said it was right to investigate. Which is fine as far as it goes.

          But if they had not been asleep at the switch, they would have immediately grabbed the ball and demanded an investigation into DNC election tampering, spying on the Trump campaign, the Comey coverup….. Hardball politics would have been to seize the momentum of “election interference” and run with it, straight into “democrat party election tampering” and “Obama administration political spying”.

          It would have taken a great deal of courage and a charismatic leadership to pull it off, but they would have had the facts on their side, unlike the “russian puppet” conspiracy theorists.

          A bipartisan bill to fund a special counsel with a tightly drawn mandate to look into “Russian interference, Trump campaign collusion, Clinton campaign collusion, DNC primary corruption and DNC collusion with the media and Obama administration use of government offices for political purposes (specifically IRS on nonprofits and the FBI, NSA, CIA, justice dept, et. al. on Trump spying and killing the HRC investigation) would have stopped the whole thing cold.

          1. Of course another reason that this didn’t happen may have been that most republican politicians at least thought there was a reasonable chance that Trump actually did collude with the Russians….

      2. “If you haven’t done anything wrong then you have nothing to fear!” – the new Principled Libertarian motto.

      3. A lot of people were impatient with Trump fighting back. I was.

        But it increasingly looks like Trump has properly played the long game.

        In his first 2 years, if he goes hard, it is entirely likely that the right wing of the Globalist Uniparty abandons him and joins the Left in impeachment.

        The Republican base now has his back.
        Increasingly the judiciary has his back.
        He has thinned the herd of Republicucks in party leadership.
        He survived the #DeepState Coup.
        Invasion USA has brought more and more people over to the border control position.
        He’s building the wall. Reportedly he’s actual starting deportations of those with deportation order. (Giggity!)
        He now has the DOJ back under control.
        Now the coupsters are becoming the hunted.
        The Epstein prosecution is yuge, and will destroy and discredit much of globalist leadership.

        Trump has *led*, and more and more people are following. He gets stronger, while his enemies get weaker.

        Meanwhile, he’s driven the activist Left insane. And by “activist”, I mean the entire political class of the Left. The Democrat primary is a clown show of absurdities. Fewer and fewer trust network news.

        He’s winning the long game.
        And I’m not tired of winning yet!

  44. […] column, 2nd story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican […]

  45. I’d prefer to reject Amash rather than partisan politics.

  46. […] column, 5th story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican party…‘Partisan death […]

  47. If you’re going to be a true libertarian and tilt at windmills, at least have the decency to join the Libertarian Party!

    Amash should have avoided tweaking the Trump supporters to start a fight he won’t win, stayed in the Republican Party and run for the Senate. Now he’ll bail for the LP presidential race, get 2 or 3 percent of the vote and be done.

    1. The retard was losing his primary before he went full #Resistance, and his congressional district isn’t going to exist anymore after the next census. He saw the writing on the wall and decided to go out in a blaze of retardation.

  48. Happy Independence Day, everyone! Have a great 4th, and be safe.

    Just want to point out that we live in the greatest country in recorded human history. No other country has done as much, given us much, sacrificed as much as the United States of America for the betterment of the world and humanity. It is not even close. We should be very, very proud of our country, and hold up the ideals our Founders gave to us. We are so lucky to be here.

    As for Congressman Amash….I kind of look at it this way. I really like the fact that he can broadcast his message freely and openly. Just the fact that he can do this without coercion is nothing short of miraculous, when compared to how political dissidents are treated elsewhere in the world. He is leaving the R Party. Well alright then. Congressman Amash, start a political party and get out there in the political marketplace. Best of luck.

    1. +1 and more.
      Gripe all you please, but the traffic tends to be in, not out.

  49. […] column, 1st story, link) Related stories:‘Partisan death […]

  50. […] column, 2nd story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican […]

  51. This is not good. The GOP needed his voice on the actual issues facing our politics. Unfortunately, the results of the ridiculous Russian interference investigation are the hill Amash was willing for his career to die on. If he had to burn up his political capital, I would have rather it was on something more substantive.

  52. يصعب أحيانا علي ربة المنزل أن تقوم بأعمال النظافة وحدها وخاصة في وجود أطفال أوانشغالها بعملها، وتحتاج إلى من يساعدها في انهاء مهام التنظيف، وأحيانا تمر عليه اوقات مناسبات أو عزومات وتحتار فيمن تقدم لها يد المساعدة، لذلك “شركة التقوي” تقدم لها كافة الخدمات المتميزة من أعمال التنظيف والترتيب والتلميع وتنسيق المنزل، ونقدم خدماتنا بكل أمان ودون قلق من استقدام الخادمات للعمل والقلق وعدم استئمانهم علي الممتلكات، فنحن شركة متميزة لنا باع طويل واسم وخبرة رائدة في مجال النظافة والتنظيف، نضمن لك خدمة متميزة، وأسعار خاصة، وأمان تام من أكثر شركة تنظيف المنازل.
    شركة تنظيف منازل بالرياض

    شركة نقل اثاث بالرياض

    شركة تنظيف سجاد بالرياض
    شركة مكافحة حشرات بالرياض
    شركة تنظيف خزانات بالرياض

    شركة مكافحة حمام بالرياض
    شركة تخزين اثاث بالرياض
    تقدم شركة التقوي خدمة مكافحة حشرات بكافة أنواعها الطائرة والزاحفة، وكذلك مكافحة القوارض، للمنازل والشركات والمصانعو لا ننسي خدمة مكافحة الثعابين والزواحف ضمن خدماتن
    ا
    خدمتنا مميزة في هذا المجال وبرنامجنا في المكافحة مطور بإستخدام أجود أنواع المبيدات الحشرية الآمنة وننفذه بطريقة علمية علي
    أيدي خبراء مدربين علي أعلي مستوي وبعد المكافحة نقدم برنامج الوقاية اللازم لضمان جودة الخدمة المقدمة ولضمان عدم وجود أي
    حشرات مخبأة أو في أماكن التوالد غير المرئية
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      1. Damn it!
        I guessed something totally different.
        What am I gonna do with that Uhaul I rented now?

      2. Made more sense than most of Jeff’s posts.

  53. […] column, 2nd story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican […]

    1. Glad to know I can get my carpets cleaned in Riyadh!

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        1. That’s what it says?
          C’mon!
          I lost a finger for nothing!

        2. Didnt Welch say trump’s tariffs would kill trade? Now we have middle eastern carpet cleaning! Take that Welch

        3. Is that what you think it was.

          Carpet cleaning in Riyadh.

          They have phones there. Do you see a number?

          Reason should be very careful.

  54. So Justin Amash (D-MI) admits he’s Justin Amash (D-MI).

    So what?

  55. But… did the door hit him in the butt on his way out?

  56. This is no way for a man to go out, whining and puling into the night.

    1. Bill Kristol is his role model.

  57. Good for Amash. The Trump GOP is like a cult, almost like the AOC-led Democratic Party.

    I live in NJ, a deep-blue state. A lot of voters here are apathetic, they vote Democrat because the GOP is on the deep-end, too culturally rightward on gay and abortion issues.

    Amash can get 4%-10% in my state.

    Go Amash Go

    1. Right on abortion? 70% of surveyed adults think there should be regulations on abortion starting into the 2nd trimester, like most of europe. That’s the standard gop policy fucktard.

      1. The LP platform which became the Roe v Wade decision blocks bigots from coercing women before 100 days plus a week. The 14th Amendment establishes political right begin at birth. Amash can join the Wallace Dixiecrats where he belongs. The LP does not need to import anarchists, coercive mystical bigots or apocalypse prophets. All they do is wreck our platform and alienate voters. Today 90% of reason readers are NOT women, thanks in part to Steph.

        1. “Blocks Bigots?” What an utter tard.

  58. The “Trump Curse” strikes again! Good Riddance Amash!

  59. […] Matt Welch | Reason.com Thursday, July 04, 2019 (function ($) { $(document).ready(function () { […]

  60. Hmmm…sounds like too much soy and anal in his diet.

  61. People always get more respect for being the last one to jump from a sinking ship. Being against “both sides” and thinking you’re smarter than all the partisans who keep winning elections is truly sweet.

    But while everyone fixates on rather minor differences of opinion in the Democratic party, I think its underappreciated just how much the split between old-school Republicans and Trumplicans has gotten. Trump is as toxic as he looks.

    1. What the fuck do you have to contribute to a conversation about people who get respect?

      1. More than chipper morning eunuch

      2. My giant cock has respect across multiple states. Does that count?

  62. I don’t see why he doesn’t change his registration to Libertarian. As most of you very well know, many of our problems are due to a morbidly obese (an understatement) government. We even have problems shrinking government agencies that are looking to reduce their size! And we as a society soon won’t have the resources to pay for it, because most of our tax dollars be used for previously incurred obligations (debt interest and entitlements). And we certainly don’t have the resources to pay for any of the new major programs the Democrats want. But I’m preaching to the choir. Having bona-fide Libertarians in Congress will bring the gargantuan size of government back into mainstream political thinking, and will this become a catalyst to start shrinking its size. And if there is somewhat who has libertarian sentiments, like Amash, then he should be the first Libertarian Congressman.

  63. The Party already notified this guy he was getting no support from them and he is already 22 points down in the polls.

    This turncoat is simply getting out while he can and before his public humiliation gets worse than it is now.

  64. […] never been a Republican nor a fan of Justin Amash, and even though he’s my congressman, I couldn’t care less whether he’s part of the GOP or […]

  65. How this came about for him.

    Amash went against Repubs calling for Trumps Impeachment.

    He’s either Stupid or it was on Purpose. This action for his Republican career is a death Nail. He’s finished unless as I said before he goes to the Dem’s.

    1. Amash is Open Borders Uber Alles.

      Once it was clear that the coup would fail, that meant Amash and Team Invasion America were unlikely to have a future in the Republican Party.

      So he got out before he was run out.

  66. […] column, 6th story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican party…‘Partisan death […]

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  68. what lured this guy to the right side in the first place? he’s surely not a free-enterpriser or limited-government guy.

    g’bye, pal. don’t forget the kneepads when Bathhouse Barry is welcoming you from behind and Clin-ton is rogering you from the front.

    1. You know what is killing the country? Assholes like Amash who run claiming to be Republicans or conservatives only to then stick it to their constituents and become the NYT’s favorite Republican once in office.

  69. Amash never once called for Obama’s impeachment even though Obama did things which should offend Amash more than anything Trump has done. Obama started illegal wars in Libya and Yemen, used the NSA to spy on the country, and ordered the assassination of an American Citizen. All that time “Mr. Libertarian” Amash said not a damn thing much less called for his impeachment.

    Now Amash wants us to believe that he is all about principles calling for Trump to be impeached because he objected to a sham investigation. Only someone as dishonest and stupid as Welch could believe such bullshit.

    1. Like most moral preeners, they still have an eye out for which side their bread is buttered on.

      Ironically, he sided with the coup when it was clear it had failed, as the failure also made clear that Team Invasion USA were probably just dead enders in the Republican Party.

  70. Trump trolls are out in full force today. A surefire sign Smash made the right choice. There is no working within the GOP. It’s a party of parasites. Spew party propaganda and claim gun control and Fair Trade are now conservative ideals or get primaries. Amash has finally acknowledged the shit show that is the GOP.

    Fuck Trump. Fuck Republicans.

    1. Jesus Christ son, did your parents have any children that lived? Stoned, angry and stupid is no way to go through life.

      1. Hattori really likes that post office Amash named

      2. “Take the guns first, go through due process second.” – Donald Trump

        1. They have meds for those voices in your head.

            1. Trump says a lot of things. Has he acted on that one? No. And you know damn well he wouldn’t.

              So enough with the straw men.

              1. So enough with the straw men.

                Trump certainly says a lot of dumb shit – I agree with you on that. I mainly wanted to point out that Trump actually said that, because it looked like John didn’t know. I don’t think Trump will do a lot to HURT gun rights (bump stock ban notwithstanding), but I don’t think he’ll radically expand gun rights either, especially when he makes comments like that. He’s mostly a status quo president, and has obvious authoritarian impulses, so I feel no need to reflexively jump to his defense every time someone criticizes him.

  71. Justin old buddy, all I can hope is you don’t let the door hit you in the butt on the way out! Your doomed politically, hope you find a good job – maybe a CNN pundit?

    As for me I cannot be prouder of my President. I hold Mr. Trump in the highest esteem for being true to what he says he will do. Within the limits of budget and Congressional authority I think he has done a spectacular job.
    The Commies want to impeach him because he is too different from them and wants to drain the swamp. He’s a real person not a politician. His is not an easy task and I’m sure he understood that when he decided to run for President. He works diligently against the old vested system. Thank you.

    Donald Trump became President at a time when the lunatics came out of the Democrat woodwork – Crazy Bernie, Ossified-Cortex, Jerry Nadler (the nouveau Steve Urkel), the fake Indian broad and the other loons of the left. The only remotely sane voice in their party is John Hickenlooper of Colorado; and he was booed by the hard left at his party’s conclave in California a couple of days ago when he told them they were committing suicide in going socialist. Joe Biden, R.I.P. – not my cup of tea politically, but I feel sorry that he is being taken down by the circular firing squad. He likes to nuzzle girls on the neck and play with their hair and maybe to brush their butts. My kind of guy! And he knew how to maneuver with the old segregationist Democratic crowd that populated Congress at one time – so what?

    I am sure that Mr. Trump will be overwhelmingly returned for a second term. I’m also sure that the Commies in Congress and the thugs in the media will continue to harass and criticize his every move. Justin, keep us posted on your gig with CNN.

    I’m just as sure that our President will counter each of the left’s moves with something brilliant that keeps us on the track of being a great country again.

    Thank you Mr. President and God Bless You and the United States on the 4th of July!

  72. Winner take all elections and the electoral college guarantees two large parties.

  73. Why did he publish his announcement on a paywall-protected site like Washingtonpost.com? It makes no sense. Doesn’t he want people to be able to read it?

    Here’s the best free version I can find. I think all the text is here, just ignore the commentary interspersed with it.
    https://www.outsidethebeltway.com/justin-amash-leaves-gop-with-bothsides-op-ed/

  74. “The two-party system has evolved into an existential threat to American principles and institutions,” Trump’s congressional nemesis declares as he officially leaves the GOP.
    ####

    #DeepStateAmash sided with the Deep State in their attempted coup over the constitutional order, betrays the Republican voters who voted for him, and then has the cheek to try to sell himself as a defender of the constitutional order.

    Trump has been the greatest threat to the #DeepState Globalist Uniparty we’ve had in our lifetimes. He’s the *only* threat.

    #DeepStateAmash is just another #DeepState #EnemyOfThePeople who wants to remain part of the perpetual ruling class.

  75. […] Donald Trump just over three hours to react—gleefully—to this morning’s announcement by Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) that the libertarian congressman was leaving the […]

  76. This guy, Amash, is bat$**t crazy with his impeachment talk. You’d have to be a Grade A moron not to see how the Trump campaign was setup by Barry’s CIA, DoJ and FBI. That, and/or a partisan hack. Sheesh!

  77. […] took President Donald Trump just over three hours to react—gleefully—to this morning’s announcement by Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) that the libertarian congressman was leaving the […]

  78. Good going JA!

    I did the same thing a couple of months ago. Let both sides court my vote.

    Sick of the Red/Blue dichotomy!

    Happy Independence Day to all!

    A repvblic, if you can keep it.

    Can we? This is a good step back in the correct direction.

  79. Good Bye Mr. Amash, don’t let the door hit you……………..

    1. Oh, is this a Republican website? That explains a lot! What the fuck have I been doing?

      1. Tony
        July.4.2019 at 9:31 pm
        “Oh, is this a Republican website? That explains a lot! What the fuck have I been doing?”

        No, it’s a mostly libertarian which allows fucking lefty ignoramuses like you to post, and is strongly infected with TDS.
        Fuck off and die; make the world a better and more intelligent place.

  80. […] took President Donald Trump just over three hours to react—gleefully—to this morning’s announcement by Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) that the libertarian congressman was leaving the […]

  81. Prior to Amash’s forelock-tugging (signalling) during that farce of Kavanaugh’s confirmation hearings, I was willing to accept the cheer-leading for the guy, but there was really no excuse for that.
    And then the straw-grasping, making common cause with the far left wing of the D’s over specious claims of ‘obstructing justice’ made it clear he was grandstanding for whatever personal satisfaction he found.
    Yes, I’d love to have a libertarian in congress. One who perhaps understood that Trump has done far better than most any of us hoped.
    I repeat, I did not vote for the guy, doubted he would be elected, and if he was, my only hope is that he’d keep one more RBG off the SCOTUS. But looky here; enough to cause Tony to shit his pants for at least four years:
    1) DeVos
    2) Gorsuch
    3) Kavanuagh
    4) Ajit Pai, end net price fixing
    5) Major reduction in the growth of regulations.
    6) Dow +35%
    7) Unemployment at 3.0% (!)
    8) The US Manufacturing Index soared to a 33 year high
    9) Got repeal of the national medical insurance mandate.
    10) Withdrawal from Paris climate agreement.
    11) Not sure about the tax reform; any “reform” that leaves me subisdizing Musk’s customers is not what I hoped for. Let Musk run a company for once. But cutting taxes is good.
    12) Pulled support for the $13 billion Hudson Tunnel project.
    13) More than 16,000 jobs have been cut from the federal leviathan
    14) MIGHT have a deal to de-nuke NK.
    15) Killed monbeam’s choo-choo
    16) Supported and singed First Step Act.
    And finally:
    17) Still making lefties steppin and fetchin like their pants is on fire and their asses are catchin’

    OK, Amash, tell us what you’ve done. And Matt, your TDS is a serious affliction; seek help.

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  83. […] column, 5th story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican party…‘Partisan death […]

  84. […] column, 3rd story, link) Related stories:‘Partisan death spiral’…President calls ‘total […]

  85. There is AT LEAST a slim chance of reforming the Republican Party and weeding out the moles and traitors, and other assorted vermin.
    There is ZERO CHANCE of doing the same in the Democrat Party.
    They couldn’t be more ANTI-AMERICAN, if they were the Communist Party U.S.A.

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  87. […] column, 5th story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican party…‘Partisan death […]

  88. He’s got a great guaranteed future lobbying on behalf of the ChinkComs.

  89. His next course of action: Get the gender reassignment surgery he’s always wanted and needed, then change his name to Hillary Rodless.

  90. Everyone bashing on him for not being part of Team Trump. But I am applauding him. Yes, it means he’s can’t get reelected. But he wasn’t going to get reelected anyway.

    I quit the Republican Party for the same reasons. It had stopped being conservative, stopped being friendly to free market types, became actively hostile to libertarians. Every conservative principal was thrown in the trash in the name of following the leader. The Republican about face in 2016 was stunning in its rapidity.

    Party unity is good, but parties also need a few guiding principles to hold them together. The Republican has no principle other than following the populist leader to wherever he will lead. “Conservatism” is now defined as whatever Trump says in the moment.

    1. You’re not a libertarian; you’re an Alinsky-Cloward-Piven-Obama-Soros leftie.

  91. This guy is a donkey draped in elephant hyde. He lives in a bright red district, so of course he ran as a Republican. He’s no libertarian either-except when it involves weed. I hope the good people of Grand Rapids send him to the unemployment line.

  92. […] column, 5th story, link) Related stories:Amash quits Republican party…‘Partisan death […]

  93. In 1980, communist dictatorships like Ceausescu’s Romania were clearly slave pens. Surplus communist anarchists were dispatched to infiltrate the LP and make voters avoid us like a stench while Dems advocated disarmament, surrender and sovietism. Today even Ireland has freed itself of conservative coercion of women. The LP has already alienated women by betraying its 1972 plank. We do NOT need to import superstitious freaks the GOP is now struggling to shed as a matter of survival.

    1. See? The Nixon-subsidized looter press is already calling the mystic a “libertarian”! Ron Paul, Randal, and how this one. All a faith-heel has to do is offer to send men with guns to coerce physicians and female taxpayers and voters, and suddenly that suffices to qualify as “Libertarian.” I smell a big fat republican rat.

  94. […] column, 6th story, link) Related stories:‘Partisan death spiral’…President calls ‘total […]

  95. […] system has evolved into an existential threat to American principles and institutions.”  Reason  I’ve said before that Amash is a “two-faced opportunist” (post 20may19).  I erred.  […]

  96. The Trumpish commenters on this article have inspired me to send another substantial constribution to Justin Amash.

    1. For “constribution”, read “contribution”. I wish there were a way to edit one’s comments on this site.

  97. Amash leaves GOP, claiming they insufficiently practice what they preach re limited government. The Dems preach and practice the polar opposite of limited government.

    Going forward, with whom will Amash caucus? His actions will speak louder than his words.

  98. Unless there is a mass exit from these two corrupt parties our country will flip-flop between the two fake choices, all the while getting poorer and less free but believing the media that they are not.

  99. […] Donald Trump just over three hours to react—gleefully—to this morning’s announcement by Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) that the libertarian congressman was leaving the […]

  100. Too many times he fought the wrong battles. Libertarian purity is not reality and will not win. If we want more liberty we need to do it incrementally and take a win where we can get one. Unfortunately Amash will be a non factor in the Presidential race and has lost his influence in congress as well.
    Libertarian ideas lost.

  101. […] in Congress. Polling shows him losing a primary against a Republican challenger, and Michigan allows partisan straight-ticket voting, which tends to hurt third-party candidates. But Amash says he has been hearing a lot of support […]

  102. […] he formed the Freedom Caucus, he called for impeachment proceedings, he left the Freedom Caucus, he left the Republican Party, and now he’s making the media rounds amid speculation about his […]

  103. […] he formed the Freedom Caucus, he called for impeachment proceedings, he left the Freedom Caucus, he left the Republican Party, and now he’s making the media rounds amid speculation about his […]

  104. […] Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) consciously decoupled from the Republican Party on the 4th of July, he also left open the possibility that he might run […]

  105. […] Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) consciously decoupled from the Republican Party on the 4th of July, he also left open the possibility that he might run […]

  106. […] Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) consciously decoupled from the Republican Party on the 4th of July, he also left open the possibility that he might run […]

  107. […] Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) consciously decoupled from the Republican Party on the 4th of July, he also left open the possibility that he might run […]

  108. […] Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) consciously decoupled from the Republican Party on the 4th of July, he also left open the possibility that he might run […]

  109. […] he formed the Freedom Caucus, he called for impeachment proceedings, he left the Freedom Caucus, he left the Republican Party, and now he’s making the media rounds amid speculation about his […]

  110. […] Rep. Justin Amash (I-Mich.) consciously decoupled from the Republican Party on the 4th of July, he also left open the possibility that he might run […]

  111. […] announcement,” Gabbard told the NPR Politics Podcast this week, referring to Amash’s announcement on July 4th that he was becoming a political independent. In announcing that move, Amash decried the […]

  112. […] announcement,” Gabbard told the NPR Politics Podcast this week, referring to Amash’s announcement on July 4th that he was becoming a political independent. In announcing that move, Amash decried the […]

  113. […] announcement,” Gabbard told The NPR Politics Podcast this week, referring to Amash’s announcement on July 4 that he was becoming a political independent. In announcing that move, Amash decried the […]

  114. […] Michigan Congressman Justin Amash announced he was leaving the Republican Party to become an independent, he didn’t just say goodbye to the GOP—he opened up a whole new […]

  115. […] Michigan Congressman Justin Amash announced he was leaving the Republican Party to become an independent, he didn’t just say goodbye to the GOP—he opened up a whole […]

  116. […] Michigan Congressman Justin Amash announced he was leaving the Republican Party to become an independent, he didn’t just say goodbye to the GOP—he opened up a whole […]

  117. […] Michigan Congressman Justin Amash announced he was leaving the Republican Party to become an independent, he didn’t just say goodbye to the GOP—he opened up a whole new set of […]

  118. […] Michigan Congressman Justin Amash announced he was leaving the Republican Party to become an independent, he didn’t just say goodbye to the GOP—he opened up a whole new […]

  119. […] Vohra, then Kokesh, then Behrman, each said that they would support everyone on stage before the newly independent libertarian congressman. And even the two other comparative moderates were critical of his […]

  120. […] Vohra, then Kokesh, then Behrman, each said that they would support everyone on stage before the newly independent libertarian congressman. And even the two other comparative moderates were critical of his […]

  121. […] Vohra, then Kokesh, then Behrman, each said that they would support everyone on stage before the newly independent libertarian congressman. And even the two other comparative moderates were critical of his […]

  122. […] is also speculation that Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) could join the race. Amash has very recently left the Republican Party, as well as his congressional committees. Whether he chooses to run as a Republican, Libertarian, […]

  123. […] speculation that Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) could join the race. Amash has very recently left the Republican Party, as well as his congressional committees. Whether he chooses to run as a Republican, Libertarian, […]

  124. […] speculation that Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.) could join the race. Amash has very recently left the Republican Party, as well as his congressional committees. Whether he chooses to run as a Republican, Libertarian, […]

  125. […] Vohra, then Kokesh, then Behrman, each said that they would support everyone on stage before the newly independent libertarian congressman. And even the two other comparative moderates were critical of his […]

  126. […] “racist and xenophobic.” I suppose Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich), a Trump critic who is no longer a Republican, does not count, but it looks like he was the first non-Democratic member of Congress to criticize […]

  127. […] “racist and xenophobic.” I suppose Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich), a Trump critic who is no longer a Republican, does not count, but it looks like he was the first non-Democratic member of Congress to criticize […]

  128. […] and xenophobic.” I suppose Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.), a Trump critic who is no longer a Republican, does not count, but it looks like he was the first non-Democratic member of Congress to condemn […]

  129. […] and xenophobic.” I suppose Rep. Justin Amash (I–Mich.), a Trump critic who is no longer a Republican, does not count, but it looks like he was the first non-Democratic member of Congress to condemn […]

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