Drugs

The Lives We Can Save in California

Safe injection facilities and other harm reduction measures are the answer.

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Joanna Andreasson

If San Francisco attempts to move forward with establishing supervised injection facilities (SIFs), places where those addicted to drugs can safely shoot up, it will have to do so without the state government's blessing. In early October, Democratic Gov. Jerry Brown vetoed A.B. 186, a bill that would have authorized the city and county to create such facilities.

The sites, found in urban areas around the world but not yet in the United States, allow users to get high under the supervision of people who could help them in the event of an overdose. They also generally offer treatment options and access to social workers. In short, SIFs prioritize harm reduction over deterrence, and a 2014 report looking at 75 different studies found that the sites are successful in reducing the frequency of overdoses without leading to increases in drug use or crime.

San Francisco has an intravenous drug problem of epic proportions. Citizens have been posting videos on social media of users injecting drugs openly in transit stations; according to BuzzFeed, annual complaints about needles and medical waste on public streets jumped from 290 to more than 6,000 over the course of a decade. Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites' workers—many of them health-care professionals—could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown's veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

The ostensible reason for rejecting the bill is that California can't protect such a facility from the federal government. Deputy Attorney General Rod Rosenstein recently warned in a New York Times op-ed that the U.S. Department of Justice would sabotage any attempt to open a SIF anywhere in the country. In his veto letter, Brown said it would be "irresponsible" for him to expose local officials and health-care providers to potential federal prosecution.

That's a smokescreen, however. Brown's embrace of science in areas like climate change and renewable energy does not extend to the research on drug use. "Residential, outpatient and case management—all are needed, voluntarily undertaken or coercively imposed by our courts," he wrote. "Enabling illegal and destructive drug use will never work. The community must have the authority and the laws to require compassionate but effective and mandatory treatment. AB 186 is all carrot and no stick."

America's decadeslong drug war shows that the stick does not work, and—barring the kind of brutal state-sanctioned violence committed against drug offenders in Southeast Asia—it never will. Besides, the point of SIFs is to make drug use less deadly, not less prevalent. The sites save lives by preventing overdoses and save money by reducing the costly emergency services that are part and parcel of enforcement and treatment.

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  1. When Frank Jordan was mayor of SF, he used his emergency powers to legalize needle exchange, which was a success. I see no reason the mayor couldn’t also use them for this. What are the feds going to do, arrest a popular mayor and put him on trial? No jury will convict him.

    1. So a mayor simply ignores the law and spends my money as you prefer?
      Fuck off, slaver.

      1. It would actually be as the voters prefer, and you lost, so your insistence that people who beat you in an election do what you want is the height of hubris.

        So, you fuck off whiny child who lost and can’t understand that means you don’t get to decide shit bitch.

        1. Incitatus|11.23.18 @ 10:08PM|#
          “It would actually be as the voters prefer, and you lost, so your insistence that people who beat you in an election do what you want is the height of hubris.”
          So if 50% +1 decided slavery is just ducky, you’re down with that, you fucking scumbag?
          Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

          1. “So if 50% +1 decided slavery is just ducky, you’re down with that, you fucking scumbag?”

            Of course not you fucking ignoramus, that would be unconstitutional while this plan isn’t. How does such as obvious sifference get by your fucking moron ass?

            Oh yeah, you’re a fucking moron.

            1. One is Constitutional. The other is not. You’ll learn the difference in high school.
              Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
              How much do we spend on the drug war?
              Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              1. David Nolan|11.23.18 @ 10:20PM|#
                “One is Constitutional. The other is not.”

                Bullshit; neither are.
                And fuck off, Hihn.

              2. “David Nolan|11.23.18 @ 10:20PM|#

                One is Constitutional. The other is not. ”

                Yes Hihn you exceptionally stupid fuck, THAT’S WHAT HE SAID

                “Of course not you fucking ignoramus, that would be unconstitutional while this plan isn’t. ”

                LOLOLOLOO YOU’RE SO FUCKING STUPID YOU CAN’T READ AND ALL YOUR LAME ASS SOCK PUPPETS GET OUTED!!!

                Ahahahhahaa

                Hihm is FUCKING STUPID!!! AHAHAHAH HE CAN’T EVEN READ!!!!

                Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

            2. ncitatus|11.23.18 @ 10:17PM|#
              “Of course not you fucking ignoramus, that would be unconstitutional while this plan isn’t. How does such as obvious sifference get by your fucking moron ass?”
              So just because it is not specifically denied, a fucking imbecile like you is more than happy spend my money on what you want?
              Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

              1. Who said anything about “happy” you fucking moron who doesn’t know the difference between constitutional and not?

                Learn to read you flaming retard, it’s just what happens when you lose.

                Now stop bitching that you lost and have to eat policies you don’t like you crybaby fuck.

                1. Incitatus|11.23.18 @ 10:29PM|#
                  ‘Who said anything about “happy” you fucking moron who doesn’t know the difference between constitutional and not?”
                  So, you fucking imbecile, should taxpayers take over the grocery business, since it is not ‘unconstitutional’?
                  Fuck off, you pathetic excuse for humanity.

                  1. They should take over your care since you can’t even make a coherent argument you irrelevant old fuck.

                    No one ANYWHERE said that things SHOULD BE TAKEN OVER BECAUSE DOING SO IS CONSTITUTIONAL.

                    You can’t even keep track of what the fuck is going on you’re so fucking dumb and senile.

                    1. Sevo is an idiot. He obviously didn’t think his stupid example through and when it got swatted down he had to fire off a lame ass strawman because he realized how stupid he looked.

                      He knows his fucking moron grocery example is a dickhead strawman play, but he’s worthless and a moron so he just keeps running his idiot dicksucker no matter how fucking retarded he looks.

                    2. Yes, it takes an especially stupid asshole to think “no Sevo you stupid fuck that is unconstitutional” is the same as “everything not unconstitutional should be done” but that braindead loser Sevo is exactly that stupid asshole.

              2. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES.

                WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (SNEER)

                Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                As I predicted, anti-gummint goobers are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY

                Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

                This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                  1. ANOTHER WIN FOR ME!!

                    (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                    Actual proof vs hissy fits by a crazy stalker.

                    1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

              3. Watch Sevo male a public fool of himself! (again)

                So just because it is not specifically denied, a fucking imbecile like you is more than happy spend my money on what you want?

                The fuckihg umbecile is you — posting over three dozen hissy fits because you ASS-UME this has ANYTHING to do with tax dollars. (sneer)

                THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

                This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      2. Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
        How much do we spend on the drug war?
        Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

          1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
            Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
            How much do we spend on the drug war?
            Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

            1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

              1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES.

                WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (SNEER)

                Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                As I predicted, anti-gummint goobers are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY

                Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

                This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                  1. ANOTHER WIN FOR ME!!

                    (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                    Actual proof vs hissy fits by a crazy stalker.

                    1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                2. Piss off, Hihn.

                  1. His name is Tulpa and his sock, Sanity (sic). He’s as crazy as you.
                    The only other person nearby is Nolan, the sumbitch who cited UNDENIABLE PROOF you people are psychos.

                    Sorry, loser, but Left – Right = Zero

    2. In this thread, I make Hihn sockpuppet David Nolan absolutely lose his shit!

      1. (sneer)

        ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

        THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

        Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

        As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

        Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

        This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

        Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

        (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

        (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

        1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

          “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

          YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      2. What about me? Do I get any shit-love?

        1. The goobers nailed you too. Keep looking.

  2. Bravo Scott! The very best argument I’ve seen in over 50 years as an activist!!

    Add one thing and we can crush the fascists on this issue. All their power comes from fomenting false hysterian among their low-information voters (see caravans), So how can we guarantee no new addicts will be created? That’s a legitimate concern, and the only objection goobers can hope to get away with.

    Simple. The only people who can use an SIF will already be addicts when the law passes.
    Choice = Reality = drug dealers vs addicts. Which would Jesus choose?
    (It’s also called caring for one’s fellow man)

    1. But not what Batman would do, and if we’re letting fictional characters guide our actions then Batman is the preferred choice.

      1. Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers? How much do we spend on the drug war?

        if we’re letting fictional characters guide our actions

        It’s called being guided by logic. Which you don’t have, as proven by those three questions.

        But now we have The Joker supporting Batman!

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

          1. Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
            How much do we spend on the drug war?
            Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                How much do we spend on the drug war?
                Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

            1. “Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?”
              Ever hear of A-1, you fucking ignoramus?
              Fuck off, Hihn.

              1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                How much do we spend on the drug war?
                Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                1. Fuck off Hihn.

                  1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                    Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                    How much do we spend on the drug war?
                    Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                    1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                    2. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES.

                      WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (SNEER)

                      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                      As I predicted, anti-gummint goobers are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY

                      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

                      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                    3. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                    4. ANOTHER WIN FOR ME!!

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                      Actual proof vs hissy fits by a crazy stalker.

                    5. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  3. So, you’re best response to “hey look, junkies!” is to say “here, have some free needles and smack on the taxpayer’s dime.”….?

    1. So your solution is to place drug dealers above drug addicts. Because anti-gummint and not pro-liberty. And too extreme for even Ayn Rand — by opposing consent of the governed and will of the people, thus an authoritarian.

      How much do we spend on the drug war?
      Anything else?

      1. Fuck off Hihn.

        1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do?
          Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
          How much do we spend on the drug war?
          Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

          1. David Nolan|11.23.18 @ 10:14PM|#
            “Does Hihn ridicule you like I do?”
            Fuck off, Hihn.

            1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
              Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
              How much do we spend on the drug war?
              Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              1. Fuck off Hihn.

                1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                  Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                  How much do we spend on the drug war?
                  Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                  1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                    1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES.

                      WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (SNEER)

                      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                      As I predicted, anti-gummint goobers are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY

                      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

                      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                    2. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                    3. ANOTHER WIN FOR ME!!

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

                      Actual proof by me, vs hissy fits by crazed stalkers who’ve been “triggered.” (smirk)

                    4. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    2. Is it on the taxpayer’s dime? I think that makes a big difference. It doesn’t look like it. I can’t see a legitimate case for preventing someone from opening their own SIF if they pay for it. And from what I see it may be a good idea empirically! Mises Institute had a slightly more thorough piece.

      1. I asked: “How much do we spend on the drug war?”
        Stop evading the inconvenient question and you’ll discover the answer for yourself.

        Mises Institute is hardly a rational source, mostly anti-gummint goobers. I only did a quick scan, but they say legalization is the only proper solution … as always, placing slogans and theories above reality. (yawn)

        SIFs would severely reduce the same government spending they lie about, and they have no way to ACHIEVE anything even close.

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

          1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
            Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
            How much do we spend on the drug war?
            Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

            1. Fuck off Hihn.

              1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                How much do we spend on the drug war?
                Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

      2. Is it on the taxpayer’s dime?

        Nope. The goobers are being crazy again.
        Went bat-shit crazy … FAILED to READ Reason’s actual reporting

        1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

          “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

          YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

          1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

            THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

            Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

            As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

            Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

            This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

            Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

            (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

            (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

            1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

              “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

              YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

            2. Go fuck yourself Hihn

              1. ANOTHER stalker/bully/psycho!
                His name is Tulpa and his sock, Sanity (sic). He’s as crazy as you.
                The only other person nearby is Nolan, the sumbitch who cited UNDENIABLE PROOF you people are pathetic psychos.

                Sorry, loser, but Left – Right = Zero

  4. Bravo Scott! The very best argument I’ve seen in over 50 years as an activist!!

    Add one thing and we can crush the fascists on this issue. All their power comes from fomenting false hysterian among their low-information voters (see caravans), So how can we guarantee no new addicts will be created? That’s a legitimate concern, and the only objection goobers can hope to get away with.

    Simple. The only people who can use an SIF will already be addicts when the law passes.
    Choice = Reality = drug dealers vs addicts. Which would Jesus choose?
    (It’s also called caring for one’s fellow man)

    1. Fuck off Hihn.

      1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
        Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
        How much do we spend on the drug war?
        Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

          1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
            Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
            How much do we spend on the drug war?
            Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

            I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.

            1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

              “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

              YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

              1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  5. Bravo Scott! The very best argument I’ve seen in over 50 years as an activist!!

    Add one thing and we can crush the fascists on this issue. All their power comes from fomenting false hysterian among their low-information voters (see caravans), So how can we guarantee no new addicts will be created? That’s a legitimate concern, and the only objection goobers can hope to get away with.

    Simple. The only people who can use an SIF will already be addicts when the law passes.
    Choice = Reality = drug dealers vs addicts. Which would Jesus choose?
    (It’s also called caring for one’s fellow man)

    1. HUH? I’ve seen comments appear twice at times, but never thrice. Has this website been hacked by the Russians?
      Jeff Sessions? Ted Cruz? North Korea?

      1. No. It’s an artifact of a posting by a stupid shit named Hihn.

        1. That’s how Sevo FAILS to rebut anything he disagrees with. We see it quite often.

          (Who’s Hihn? Where was Obama born? And what about those space aliens in Roswell, NM?)

            1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
              Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
              How much do we spend on the drug war?
              Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              1. Fuck off Hihn.

                1. My questions musy be in-con-veeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeen-yent. (sneer)

                  Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                  Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                  How much do we spend on the drug war?
                  Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                  I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.
                  AND CANNOT REFUTE A WORD I SAY

                  1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                    “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                    YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                    1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                      As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                    2. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    2. Fuck off Hihn.

      1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
        Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
        How much do we spend on the drug war?
        Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

        1. Fuck off Hihn.

          1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
            Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
            How much do we spend on the drug war?
            Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

            I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME, FASCIST.

            1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

              “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

              YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

              1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  6. Why do we need to save the addicts? How about letting them face the consequences of their actions instead?

    1. Why is addiction NOT a consequence?
      What would Jesus do?

      1. Answer the question. Why do we need to save the addicts?

        1. Ridicule is more appropriate, which you have now justified, since I DID answer your question … in your own word, “consequences.” — so it’s YOU that owes ME answers (no more cowardly evasions).

          Why is addiction NOT a consequence?
          What would Jesus do?

          Here’s another: How much do we spend for the failed war on drugs, including all those in a penitentiary for non-violent drug crimes.

          Anything else?

          1. Fuck off Hihn.

            1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
              Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
              How much do we spend on the drug war?
              Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              1. Fuck off Hihn.

                1. I don’t mind helping your therapist. But how much more for you to feel manly?

                  Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                  Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                  How much do we spend on the drug war?
                  Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                  I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME, FASCIST.

                  1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                    “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                    YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                    1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                      As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                    2. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

        2. shortviking|11.23.18 @ 8:20PM|#
          “Answer the question. Why do we need to save the addicts?
          Pretty sure it’s something to do with jebus.

          1. “Answer the question. Why do we need to save the addicts?

            Pretty sure it’s something to do with jebus.

            Either that, or the huge taxpayers savings you keep sneering are irrelevant — because you fucked up reading the article and ass-umed it has ANYTHING to do with tax dollars..

            You may now also sneer at basic humanity.

      2. Why does addiction get you a pass to continue bad behavior, but this time in a safe setting paid for by taxpayers?

        IF we’re going to spend public money to help addicts (bad idea) then it should be to get them off the sauce/pills/junk, not make it safer to get fucked up.

        1. Why does addiction get you a pass to continue bad behavior, but this time in a safe setting paid for by taxpayers?

          A free pass on WHAT???
          We spend 2-3 times as much on the drug war.
          If your sacred gummint gets the fuck out, it would be totally financed by voluntary private contributions — which provided universal medical treatment, regardless of age or income, until LBJ (since the 1500s).

          then it should be to get them off the sauce/pills/junk,

          HOW would we do that?
          WHY aren’t we already?
          Do you seriously believe nobody else thought of that?

          We’re seeking to influence public policy, under “will of the people” and “consent of the governed.”

          What would Jesus do?

          1. Fuck off Hihn.

            1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
              Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
              How much do we spend on the drug war?
              Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              1. Fuck off Hihn.

                1. I don’t mind helping your therapist. But how much more for you to feel manly?

                  Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
                  Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
                  How much do we spend on the drug war?
                  Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

                  I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME, FASCIST.

                  1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                    “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                    YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                    1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                      As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                    2. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  7. Brown’s embrace of science in areas like climate change and renewable energy

    This is sarc, right? Don’t mean to be insulting but you never can tell with Reason.

    1. Reason is really not that popular among goobers.who deny both of those are even issues.
      The libertarian establishment (and the Kochs) support and finance both issues — but with different solutions.
      And if you look at the entire sentence you cited, you may see how you totally missed his point.

      1. Fuck off Hihn.

        1. Reason is really not that popular among goobers.who deny both of those are even issues.

          Fuck off Hihn.

          Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
          Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
          How much do we spend on the drug war?
          Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

          I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME, FASCIST.

          I don’t mind helping your therapist. But how much more for you to feel manly?

          1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

            “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

            YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

            1. Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?
              Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
              How much do we spend on the drug war?
              Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

              I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME, FASCIST.

              I don’t mind helping your therapist. But how much more for you to feel manly?

              (I do enjoy your staking this time. So much proof of what you are.

              1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                  THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                  Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                  As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                  Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                  This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                  Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                  (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                  (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                  1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                    “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                    YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  8. Not a proper government activity, along with the drug war.
    People choose to use drugs? That is their right to do so and to arrange to do so on their own dime.
    Oh, and fuck off, Hihn.

    1. How much do we spend on the drug war?
      Why do you defend drug dealers/lords over addicts — at 2-3 times the cost?
      Are you a shareholder in private prisons, profiting on the misery of others (like taxpayers)?
      What would Jesus do?

      Oh, and fuck off, Hihn.

      Does Hihn ridicule you as well as I do?
      And as often?

      1. Fuck off Hihn.

      2. David Nolan|11.23.18 @ 10:06PM|# (AKA that fucking ignoramus Hihn)
        “How much do we spend on the drug war?’
        Irrelevant.

        “Why do you defend drug dealers/lords over addicts — at 2-3 times the cost?”
        Fantasy trying to look like argument.

        “Are you a shareholder in private prisons, profiting on the misery of others (like taxpayers)?”
        More irrelevant bullshit.

        “What would Jesus do?”
        A-1, you fucking ignoramus.

        “Does Hihn ridicule you as well as I do?
        And as often?”
        Oh, and fuck off, Hihn.

        1. Reason is really not that popular among goobers.who deny both of those are even issues.

          Fuck off Hihn.

          Does Hihn ridicule you like I do, stalker/bully?

          A-1, you fucking ignoramus.

          Cowardly evasion. If not available …
          1) Why do you value drug dealers above addicts. And above taxpayers?
          2) How much do we spend on the drug war?
          3) Should Jesus fuck off, Sluggo?

          I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME, FASCIST.
          I don’t mind helping your therapist. But how much more for you to feel manly?

          1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

            “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

            YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

            1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

              THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

              Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

              As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

              Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

              This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

              Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

              (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

              (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

              1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  9. Hihn, I would tell you to stop using that David Nolan sockpuppet, the Robert sockpuppet, and the dumb John Galt sockpuppet, live through a greasefire then and fuck off.

    1. There you go Hihn now you know what Jesus would do.

    2. Don’t forget the Sevo sockpuppet.

      1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

        THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

        Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

        As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

        Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

        This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

        Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

        (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

        (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

        1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

          “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

          YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

  10. So this is supposed to be a libertarian site.
    We have a brand new fucking lefty ignoramus (Incitatus; who is probably a sock), arguing that the government should do this since he likes the idea and it’s not ruled out by the constitution; always a good argument for brain-dead lefties.
    And then we have the noted ignoramus Hihn, posting under several transparent socks, claiming we should do this since he thinks a mythical figure would do so.
    I applaud Tulpa for heaping scorn on that scumbag, but enough for me.

    1. Cry more then continue to prove you don’t even understand what I said you old irrelvant fuck.

      God damn aren’t you supposed to be an old man? How do you CRY SO MUCH and make a fool of yourself so consistently.

      It takes an especially stupid asshole to think “no Sevo you stupid fuck that is unconstitutional” is the same as “everything not unconstitutional should be done” but that braindead loser Sevo is exactly that stupid asshole.

      1. Yes, Sevo’s take is particularly idiotic, and it’s funny to watch him shit strawmen everywhere then bitch about people pointing out how stupid and wrong he is.

        1. It’s the childlike whining that Sevo does that really amuses me, the irrelevant fossil who is being chased by old age thinks people should actually give a fuck what his election losing ass thinks.

          1. The fact that he responds to his Hihn sockpuppets with “fuck off” like it isn’t totally obvious that it is him is what amuses me.

            1. The fact that he comes down here to bitch because I made him look foolish is also enjoyable.

              1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

        2. So now we have TWO new lefty fucking ignoramuses?
          How cute!

          1. See? He lost and made a fool of himself and now resorts to whining.

            1. Yeah, Sevo is pathetic. No one will miss him once he dies soon of old age. All that crying and bitching from him is just embarassing for him.

              1. At least he stopped using the David Nolan sockpuppet that he has fallen in love with since his Hihn main got banned.

                1. Meh, Sevo crying like a bitch because he got slapped for being stupid is Sevo crying like a bitch because he got slapped for being stupid no matter what sock he hides behind.

                  1. You know Sevo’s family has like 9 DNR’S ready to go so they can finally be rid of him.

                    1. I logged in to say we all hate him, but then realized you were talking about an old irrelevant nothing of a man who has spent his life bitching about me while I do what my people actually want and ignore him.

                    2. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

                      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

                      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

                      As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

                      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

                      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

                      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

                      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

                      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

                    3. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

          2. In fact, probably fucking ignoramus Hihn sock#1, #2, #3, #4 and #5.
            Hihn, are you capable of embarrassment, or has your senility taken that from you?

            1. Are you capable of an original comment, or has being senile made you rip off the comments of people who insupt you you old unoriginal fuck?

              And Fuck off Hihn.

              1. Do you and the rest of the socks all luv jebus? Are you right with god?

                1. That is more your concern since you’re old, irrelevant, and going to die soon of old age.

                  Of coursr, you’re busy being wrong on the internet and makimg a fool of yourself currently.

                  1. “That is more your concern since you’re old, irrelevant, and going to die soon of old age.
                    Of coursr, you’re busy being wrong on the internet and makimg a fool of yourself currently.”

                    Do you and the rest of the socks all luv jebus? Are you right with god?

                    1. You’re slipping into your Hihn sock Sevo.

                    2. Says the psycho.

                      What can be funnier than a pissing contest between two goobers — Sevo and It’s obvious.
                      Which idjit believes Sevo has posted 62 personal attacks on … HIMSELF!
                      ANOTHER vast conspiracy. (gasp)

          3. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

            THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

            Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

            As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

            Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

            This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

            Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

            (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

            (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

            1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

              “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

              YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

              1. I linked to proof. Keep laughing retard.

    2. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

      THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES.

      WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (SNEER)

      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

      As I predicted, anti-gummint goobers are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY

      Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (gasp)

      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

      Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

      (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

      (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

      1. Fuck off Sevo.

      2. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

        “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

        YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

        1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

          THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

          Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

          As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

          Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

          This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

          Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

          (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

          (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

          1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

            “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

            YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

            1. ATTENTION STUPID MISFUCKS ? Sevo And Tulpa, of course

              THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE,i> ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?.. WHICH IS WHAT REASON REPORTED! (OMFG)

              Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

              As I predicted, right-wing facsists are throwing DOZENS of hissy fits ? fomenting their typical hysteria ?. SCREECHING “FUCK OFF” over three dozen times … ON TOTAL STUPIDITY!

              Did I violate these precious snowflakes’ safe zone? (snort)

              This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

              Join me and Hihn, peeing our pants laughing at these BIG-GOVERNMENT FASCISTS!!

              (confession: I’ve been playing them. It’s SO damn easy)

              (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (sneer)

              1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

          2. Hihn (and his socks – who all luv jebus) are thrilled by this:

            “THE BILL WOULD ONLY LEGALIZE PRIVATE ENTITIES TO ESTABLISH THESE CENTERS — IF AUTHORIZED BY CITIES OR COUNTIES. ?..”

            So let me direct your attention to how the government launders taxpayer money to “private” entities:

            “The Worst-Run Big City in the U.S.”
            […]
            “This city is a mecca for people in search of a government handout that they can hand out. According to a 2009 analysis, San Francisco spends around 41 percent of its discretionary budget ? about half a billion dollars ? on nonprofits, mostly to provide social services for the poor, homeless, elderly, and others.
            […]
            There are two lessons here. First, many San Francisco nonprofits believe they’re entitled to money without having to prove that their programs work. Second, until 2007, the city agreed. Actually, most of the city still agrees. DCYF is the only city department that even attempts to track results. It’s the model other departments are told to aspire to.”
            https://archives.sfweekly.com/sanfrancisco/
            the-worst-run-big-city-in-the-us/Content?
            oid=2175354&storyPage=2
            Hihn, I’m sure you are stupid enough to fall for that. Not anyone with an IQ above 80 would do so, so you’re out of luck.

            1. Hey stupid old irrelevant fuck, you should know by now after losing so many elections that no one cares what you think. Stop crying like a bitch about spending your whole life being wrong and worthless.

              Now go lay down and die somewhere.

            2. Hey Sevo remember when you mattered?

              No one else does either!!!!

              1. God Sevo is so old and irrelevant. It must be difficult for him knowing he’ll be dead of old age soon and no one will miss him.

                Or care what he thinks. But he’s used to that.

                1. :02-:03 to change from sock to sock.
                  Hihn, you really should quit embarrassing yourself. If not for you, for your family

                  1. “Sevo|11.24.18 @ 12:10AM|#

                    :02-:03 to change from sock to sock.
                    Hihn,”

                    Stop talking to yourself.

            3. “Sevo|11.23.18 @ 11:57PM|#

              Hihn (and his socks”

              So you then?

              1. You may be as crazy as Sevo. Is this a tournament or something, for “triggered” snowflakes?

                1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                  “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                  YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

                  1. “David Nolan|11.24.18 @ 12:16AM|#

                    You may be as crazy as Sevo”

                    You mean you.

                    Taking flak. Over target.

            4. THIS stupid!

              let me direct your attention to how the government launders taxpayer money to “private” entities:

              WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS BILL???.

              IT WAS TO BE A STATE LAW … NOT A CITY LAW

              AND THAT WAS 9-11 YEARS AGO!
              TELL US WHAT THOMAS JEFFERSON HAD TO SAY ON IT!
              MARCO POLO?

              1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

                “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

                YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

              2. All bold and caps from Hihn/Sevo.

                Definitely Taking flak. Definitely Over target.

                1. Among all this screeching ..,. who’s the ONLY commenter to quote what Reason actually reported, with a link to the actual bill?

                  1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano tries to pretend he’s not a screeching little bitch.

                    1. WHAT THE FUCK DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH THIS BILL???.

  11. Back to basics

    Two simple questions have ignited a firestorm among our right-wing goobers … as I predicted in the second comment here … because the questions alone expose their bullshit.

    1) How much do we spend on the drug war?.
    (For any other retards who need it — even of the SIF centers would have been paid by taxes, they would not have, would that not be a lot cheaper than what we’ve spent per year on a failed drug war, for decades?)

    2) Why do you protect drug dealers above addicts AND TAXPAYERS?
    (For any other retards who need it — the wackos OPPOSE destroying the market for drug dealers, which means they value drug dealers above addicts … and above TAXPAYERS, since the goobers sneer at massive savings in government spending)

    Did I go too fast?

    Cyber-bullies have never cared if they publicly humiliate themselves. For them, it’s all about the attack — of anyone who “triggers” them — precisely like their orange jebus in the White House.

    FACTY Sevo says it’s irrelevant what taxpayers are spending now, And irrelevant what taxpayers would save IF these were tax payers funded (they’re not, so this one’s a fuckup squared).

    FUCK TAXPAYERS says Sevo. “I have 37 hissy fits to throw, and 28 ‘fuck offs’ to post. So I can feel manly. Well, maybe ……

    1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

      “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

      YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

      1. ANOTHER WIN FOR ME!!

        (Now watch them go REALLY spastic.) (smirk)

        Actual proof by me, vs hissy fits by crazed stalkers who’ve been “triggered.” (smirk)

        1. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

          “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

          YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

    2. David Nolan|11.24.18 @ 12:12AM|#
      “Two simple questions have ignited a firestorm among our right-wing goobers … as I predicted in the second comment here … because the questions alone expose their bullshit.”

      Two bullshit assumptions by a lefty ignoramus, followed by much more pejorative bullshit.
      If you are not embarrassed, you should be.

      1. “Sevo|11.24.18 @ 12:28AM|#

        David Nolan|11.24.18 @ 12:12AM|#”

        Both Hihn.

        1. YOU are more fucked up than Sevo!
          And Tulpa!
          Combined

          Sock puppets are an excuse used by goobers, when they’ve lost on an issue,.
          Yes, by losers.

          1. “David Nolan|11.24.18 @ 12:41AM|#

            YOU are more fucked up than Sevo!”

            You mean you.

          2. Now fuck off Hihn you illiterate fuck ahaahahaha moron you CAN’T READ AHAHAHAHAHAH!!!

            “I AM PROUD THAT YOU HATE ME.”

            YOU MEAN HIHN? AHAHAHAHHAH YOU STUPID FUCK YOU OUTED YOURSELF AHAHAHAHAHA!!!!

            1. Among all this screeching ..,. who’s the ONLY commenter to quote what Reason actually reported, with a link to the actual bill?

              1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s butt-blasted that no one takes his copypasta seriously.

                1. So, you FAIL to rebut?

                  True or False: Only assholes and conservatards refuse to take absolute proof seriously?
                  And lodge personal attacks when they have nothing of substance?
                  And launch assaults all down the page, as stalkers?

  12. The quality of the comments reflect the quality of the article.

    1. Another fascist who’s probably crazy enough to think the centers would be taxpayer funded!
      So FUCK TAX PAYERS — if they were tax-paid, that would save 10 times what’s now wasted on the drug war, and put drug dealers out of business.

      Why do you support drug dealers? And higher taxes?
      Must be a Trumptard! Typical fascist.

      Who the hell are YOU, Slick. to control voluntary activities by willing donors?

      1. Dumbfuck Hihnsano’s multiple personality disorder is manifesting itself.

        1. So, Nolan’s latest stalker FAILS to rebut?
          True or False: Only assholes and conservatards refuse to take absolute proof seriously?
          And lodge personal attacks when they have nothing of substance?
          And launch assaults all down the page, as stalkers?

          Why do you support drug dealers? And higher taxes?
          Who the hell are YOU, Slick. to control voluntary activities by willing donors

  13. My understanding was that the state bill would not provide funds for the SIFs. It would just allow local authorities to establish them. They wouldn’t need to be funded even by local taxes, and could be staffed by volunteers. Of course nothing in the bill would preclude tax funding, but you could say that about legalized pot stores, licensed liquor stores, or any business requiring a permit from local gov’t, so that’s neither here nor there.

    1. That’s also what Reason reported, on private funding. Reading can be a challenge for some.

      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed. For those who wish to be informed.

    2. “Of course nothing in the bill would preclude tax funding, but you could say that about legalized pot stores, licensed liquor stores, or any business requiring a permit from local gov’t, so that’s neither here nor there.”

      Those are in no way comparable; they all have customers who bring in the money. The SIFs generate no income at all and if they weren’t taxpayer funded at the start, they soon would be.
      People are more than welcome to take whatever drugs they please, on their own dime.

      1. sevo RETRACTS his 48 fuckups!

        The SIFs generate no income at all and if they weren’t taxpayer funded at the start, they soon would be.

        RETRACTION! (sneer)
        Now a LARGER fuckup!!!

        People are more than welcome to take whatever drugs they please, on their own dime.

        Who the FUCK are you to dick-tate what free individuals may willingly choose to pay for?
        What are your diktats for …
        Red Cross?
        Salvation Army?
        Any church?
        Any charity?

        Well-played Nolan!

  14. All drugs should be legal.

    Unlimited supplies of drugs should be free.

    Crematoriums will also be free, located next to the drug centers.

    Gotta be cheaper, with less global violence than we have now.

  15. “San Francisco has an intravenous drug problem of epic proportions. Citizens have been posting videos on social media of users injecting drugs openly in transit stations; according to BuzzFeed, annual complaints about needles and medical waste on public streets jumped from 290 to more than 6,000 over the course of a decade.”

    There’s a word that’s entered the public lexicon by way of substance abuse counseling. The word is “enabler”.

    enabler

    : one that enables another to achieve an end especially: one who enables another to persist in self-destructive behavior (such as substance abuse) by providing excuses or by making it possible to avoid the consequences of such behavior

    http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/enabler

    I might go so far as to suggest that a truly libertarian society is one in which misbehavior is primarily deterred not by criminal law but by free people seeking to avoid negative consequences. If an enabler is someone who shields people from the negative consequences of their misbehavior, then being an enabler probably isn’t a libertarian thing to be.

    1. How do San Francisco’s heroin addicts manage to pay rent, stay warm, and keep themselves fed?

      I don’t see how enabling their misbehavior discourages it, and it seems to me that this is what the government is doing in San Francisco–enabling drug addicts to avoid the negative consequences of their choices. Are there drug counselors anywhere who believe that enabling misbehavior is the solution to drug addiction?

      I suspect the correct answer is “no”.

      1. FAUX LIBERTARIAN Ken Schitz: : Who the HELL are YOU to control voluntary activities by willing donors?
        Hint: Libertarians are not self-righteous fascist goons like you

    2. FAUX LIBERTARIAN: Who the HELL are YOU to control voluntary activities by willing donors.

      Hint: Libertarians are not self-righteous fascist goons like you

  16. Here’s a drug counseling article, “Seven Signs of an Enabler”.

    http://www.addictioncenter.com…..n-enabler/

    I’ll comment on some of the interesting ones.

    1. Ignoring Shifty Behavior
    2. Resentment of The Addict

    KS: Apparently, enablers tend to blame the addict for their own enabling behavior. If these people weren’t addicts, then we wouldn’t be forced to provide for them! That’s horseshit. Your choice to enable misbehavior is all your own.

    3. Blaming Situations and Others for The Addict’s Actions
    4. Lying to Others?Covering Up the Addict’s Behavior
    5. Inability To Express Emotions

    KS: I’d love to say how disgusted I am with people acting like irresponsible animals in the streets, but I wouldn’t want anyone to think I was intolerant.

    6. Letting Fear Run You
    7. Prioritization

    KS: The problems of the addicts are more important than my own because . . . um . . . I have food, a warm place to sleep, and I’m white. I suspect Americans are especially susceptible to this fallacy because of the influence of Christianity on our culture–regardless of whether the people in question who believe that are self-described Christians. For any honest to goodness Christians out there, I might counter this with references to the second temptation of Christ. When Jesus says, “Tempt not the Lord your God”, he isn’t telling Satan not to tempt him. He’s telling us not to expect God to save us from the consequences of our own bad choices.

    1. Relevance NONE.

      HOW DARE YOU DENY VOLUNTARY ACTIONS BY WILLING PRIVATE DONORS AND/OR INVESTORS, FASCIST?

      HOW DARE YOU VALUE DRUG DEALERS ABOVE THEIR VICTIMS?

      When Jesus says, “Tempt not the Lord your God”, he isn’t telling Satan not to tempt him. He’s telling us not to expect God to save us from the consequences of our own bad choices.

      Bat-shit crazy winger. (Shultz, not Christ) Read the entire chapter! Satan is tempting Christ to PROVE he is the Son of God by jumping off a cliff.

      Ken followed this immediately, with a ANOTHER total fuckup!

  17. “Brown’s embrace of science in areas like climate change and renewable energy ”

    Uhm, what? Renewable energy is almost exclusively embraced by people who have no understanding of thermodynamics.

    1. I agree.

      Trumptards don’t’ understand that you can get more energy out of a system than you put in because they don’t understand science and thermodynamics.

      Also, they believe in economics, which is junk science . . . unless it’s written by Krugnuts.

    2. Is Diane the craziest Conservatard EVER … or just here?

      Uhm, what? Renewable energy is almost exclusively embraced by people who have no understanding of thermodynamics.

      Uhhhm, WTF?
      WIND provides renewable energy! SUNLIGHT! TIDES!
      HYDRO IS RENEWABLE ENERGY — ever see a dam, Sluggo?
      Only TOTAL Foxtards think otherwise. SO easily brainwashed.

      Ken Schultz, of course, repeats the SAME fuckup! (They travel in a pack, like wild dogs)

      you can get more energy out of a system than you put in because they don’t understand science and thermodynamics.

      It means the SOURCE is renewable, quickly and naturally — or not depleted!!! (Oil and gas take several centuries ro replace, as you’ll learn in high school. And burning either one REDUCES the amount in the entire universe)

      SCIENCE DAILY The most common definition is that renewable energy is from an energy resource that is replaced rapidly by a natural process such as power generated from the sun or from the wind.

      Dictionary Renewable energy definition, any naturally occurring, theoretically inexhaustible source of energy, as biomass, solar, wind, tidal, wave, and hydroelectric power, that is not derived from fossil or nuclear fuel.

      AND THEY VOTE
      ONE IS EVEN PRESIDENT.
      Pray for America

  18. I see Hihn has returned to shout at himself all night long. Pathetic.

  19. Why should I as a taxpayer pay for “places where those addicted to drugs can safely shoot up”?

    If you want socialized medicine move to another country or vote for the Democrats.

    I mean really, we waste to much money on the non-productive as it is.

    1. ANOTHER victim of the goobers here!? Check my sources.

      The bill would legalize private entities to establish the centers — if authorized by the local government.

      So you missed what Reason reported! Line 3, Paragraph 3/

      Civic leaders there had planned to open two SIFs in July, with private funders willing to foot the cost, but concerns remained that the sites’ workers?many of them health-care professionals?could be arrested for violating California laws that prohibit knowingly providing a room or building for the storage or use of drugs. Brown’s veto makes such prosecutions more likely.

      Or were you conned by all the conservatard hysteria and hissy fits about improper tax funding — that never existed — while they also FAILED to read the report they rage about?
      Even if they aren’t so dumb, taxpayer expense would be LESS than the war on drugs. So, dozens of them DEFEND wasteful spending ? while OPPOSING large spending CUTS!

      They’d defend taxpayer waste, like proggies.
      They’d defend drug dealers by restricting their victims.
      And, like all conservatards, they’d control voluntary private actions of willing individuals;
      (Trumpian style moral hypocrisy)

      This link will download the final text of the actual bill that Brown vetoed.

      Any questions?

  20. I should have added to my other post that if you want to pay for this feel free to donate as I am not against it but having the Taxpayer pay for your “special issue:” is very fascist.

    Pay for the things you want but leave me out of it.

  21. At the risk of disturbing the idiocy:
    Hihn, do you visit here often enough to recognize those who post here regularly? If so, you should recognize some patterns in their posts.
    Further, when you show up, under one of your many socks, and then (amazingly!) other brand-new handles also show up, with others claiming to be ‘regulars’, arguing with each other, no coments near what the regulars might post, do you somehow not know that we’ve all got your number? That you’ve been busted?
    Is it drink? A drug problem? Perhaps just senility? Regardless, you have to accept your posts here do nothing to advance whatever cause you prefer (and it’s rarely clear what that is).
    Seek help.

    1. It was that same Hihn (in your “mind”) who called you out as a psycho, because you STUPIDLY repeated the WACK claim that this would be a taxpayer financed project … 46 times … tnen reversing yourself and retracting all 68 of you blunders and personal attacks, as a stalking bully … when you were PROVEN ignorant of the facts.

      Hihn, do you visit here often enough to recognize those who post here regularly? If so, you should recognize some patterns in their pos

      YOUR pattern is that of a fucking psychopath, combined with never-ending bullying and aggression. That same pattern exists for Tulpa, Ken Schultz, Red Rocks White Privilege and so many others (too many to keep track of!)

      Yours is a typical pattern for Bellowing Blowhards … repeatedly posting mindless bullshit (as described here) … then non-stop aggression to punish anyone who exposes your crap …. WITH PROOF … because Trumpian lack of ego.

      Then additional assaults against anyone who DARES to defend against your thuggish aggression and bullying.

        1. Thanks, but I can prove you a psycho on my own.
          And with proof.

          But give me another childish insult, because you can’t rebut a word I say.
          Then into the corner and pout.

            1. Again, I can humiliate your bullshit on my own … because you help so much. Like here.
              Anyone who cares can see your crazed hissy fits about this being taxpayer-financed, all down the page.
              Until you retracted it. To what I kept telling you.

              You’re here for the sole purpose of being an aggressive bully. And you do so well at it.
              The only way you people can feel manly, I believe.

              (You lost. Again. On the proven facts. Now be pathetic again)

  22. Safely shoot up? How do you safely shoot up a drug of unknown potency, especially when it contains something like fentanyl, in variable amounts, with such a narrow window between an effective dose and a deadly.dose. Also, if you think you are going to be saved by naloxone, think again. There is data suggesting naloxone is less effective against fentanyl than heroin or morphine.

  23. Safely shoot up? How do you safely shoot up a drug of unknown potency, especially when it contains something like fentanyl, in variable amounts, with such a narrow window between an effective dose and a deadly.dose. Also, if you think you are going to be saved by naloxone, think again. There is data suggesting naloxone is less effective against fentanyl than heroin or morphine.

    1. Goobers lie. Or are dumb. That’s why they’re goobers.
      As we’ve said for 50 years, and is still true: Left – Right = Zero

    2. You don’t. You have someone standing by with a naloxone injection.

    3. You don’t. You have someone standing by with a naloxone injection.

      1. That’s almost as thuggish as gender assignment counseling, irrelevant, non-responsive, evasive and …. cowardly. Your delusion sees people walking around the ghetto “standing by” with naloxone, in case they find someone suffering an overdose … plus they somehow know how o diagnose overdoses. It is the ghetto, so drug-addicted nigroes are everywhere, 3-4 per city block, with at least one black or brown addict lying on the sidewalk from overdoses. Because black.

        Why would you “conservatives” restrict the voluntary private donations or investments of free individuals.? Where is that in the Constitution you revere (only when convenient)?
        Why do you side with drug dealers, but not their victims?
        How has your “war on drugs” been working for all these decades? How many needless deaths before you become pro-life (if ever), and where is THAT in the Constitution?
        And why should I be forced to pay higher taxes to support your Police State?

        MY constitution obliges government to defend both life and liberty — or it’s NOT a “just government.”
        Why do you defend “unjust” government?. On what authority? Be specific, these are human lives.

        1. Seek help. And fuck off.

          1. Cowardly evasion.
            Again.

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