Trump Nominating Jay Clayton to SEC, Obama Tells Dems to 'Stay Strong' on Obamacare, Hillary Clinton Attending Inauguration: P.M. Links

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  State Dept

  Donald Trump will nominate Jay Clayton to head the Securities and Exchange Commission. Barack Obama told Democrats to "stay strong" on Obamacare. Hillary Clinton will be attending the inauguration along with her husband.

• Prosecutors referred to a journal by Dylann Roof where he wrote he had no regrets in arguing he be sentenced to death.
• Some writers are upset Milo Yiannopolous got a book deal and are helping to get him more publicity.
• Mark Zuckerberg wants to visit all 50 states in 2017.
• Fourteen months after the election, Haiti has a new president-elect.
• North Korea has a government-customized Android tablet.

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hillary Clinton will be attending the inauguration along with her husband.

It will be a great place to network.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Hello.

[DEG]

Hello

[Citizen X]

Is it me you're looking for?

[SimonD]

*sigh* the correct response is

...is there anybody in there?

[Enough About Palin]

No. It's Hello Mudda, hello Fadda.

[OneOut]

Here I am.

[Call Me Conrad]

The one that you love...

[Libertymike]

Axin for anudda day.

[Krabappel]

Or if you are in the 90's:

Hello, hello, are you out there?

[Anomalous]

Hello.

[Rich]

And I think we all know what Fist means by "network".

[Get To Da Chippah]

Beg for donations to the Clinton Foundation?

[C. Anacreon]

I think it's actually one of Fist's all-time best lines.
And yes, I'm sober.

[Tonio]

Hmmm... Sure, Mrs. Clinton is entitled to attend just like any other member of the public. She's not expecting special accommodations, I hope.

Is there some sort of precedent on this wrt former presidents and spouses, particularly ones from the other party (than the president being inaugurated)? Honestly, this seems to be bad form to me.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

John Adams didn't attend Jefferson's, and this was considered rude. Likewise with JQA and Jackson, but in John Qunicy's defense, Jackson said some pretty awful stuff about him.

I, for one, look forward to the seeing whether Barry is able to hide his complete and utter contempt through the whole ceremony.

[John Titor]

He couldn't even keep it together at the first meeting. But maybe he's had time to get over the shock.

[Charles Easterly]

[Charles Easterly]

John,

I typed a comment in response to you post, yet clearly it was not cohesive enough.

[Jerryskids]

JFK didn't attend LBJ's inauguration, the bastard.

[Charles Easterly]

Jerryskids,

I do not think that President Kennedy was invited, out of respect for the widow.

[pan fried wylie]

The invitations were already made, at least someone thought to cross his name off it before mailing.

[Jimbo]

Mind Blown

[Mantis Toboggan, Jr.]

She's not expecting special accommodations, I hope.

Is "Trump should abdicate at the swearing-in and turn the presidency over to me." considered special?

[Tonio]

On second thought, perhaps this is a good idea since it will confer legitimacy on the new president in the minds of her supporters. Not that I care what they think, but this will hopefully shut them up for a bit.

[Charles Easterly]

...but this will hopefully shut them up for a bit.

Perhaps I am being overly cynical here, Tonio*, yet it seems to me that "a bit" approximately equates to that amount of time which is spent celebrating.

*I have no doubts in this regard

[Tonio]

Since the highest number that can be expressed by a bit is 1...

[Pope Jimbo]

You rube.

I'm sure the leftie sites are coming up with some scenario where she can call "DIBS" and put her hand on the bible just before he does and somehow become the new President.

You don't give the Hillbots enough credit for coming up with crazier upon crazier plans for her somehow still winning.

[Pay up, Palin's Buttplug!]

Some FB lefties have been calling for a foreign government to intervene militarily and make Clinton President.

[ant1sthenes]

Not Russia, I hope.

[Tonio]

That had actually occurred to me, and was the reason I thought it a good idea for the losing candidate to not attend - given that candidate's followers' tendency towards overblown fantasies.

[Glide]

I expect quite a few of them are salivating over the moment when the minister says "if anyone has any reason why this man and his presidency should not be married, speak now or forever hold your peace."

[Pope Jimbo]

Hopefully they keep her hydrated enough. They should also bundle her up so she doesn't catch pneumonia again.

[Mainer2]

Indeed. Citizen Clinton holds no official posistion, and is entitled to no honorific but Mrs.

[Zeb]

I would think they would be welcome if not expected to attend.

[Bubba Jones]

I think the presence of former Presidents is a strong symbol of the peaceful transfer of power.

ESPECIALLY if they aren't happy about it.

[Jimbo]

Yep

[Tonio]

Yes, after brief reconsideration I agree.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

She's just going to meet chicks. She and Huma are on the outs.

[PapayaSF]

The Muslim Brotherhood has a sad.

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

They have Huma working the Fauxcahontas angle?

[PapayaSF]

I think Lizzy is "really" married.

[Mickey Rat]

So they will be available to tar, feather and ride out on a rail?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Fourteen months after the election, Haiti has a new president-elect.

Bernie Sanders.

[Pro Libertate]

Nah, too right-wing.

[DEG]

Artisanal Firewood

[That's A Bingo!]

That really should've been made with Nick Offerman.

[John Titor]

Goddamn snowbacks trying to take our jerbs.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Watch it gang. It's hilarious.

[Charles Easterly]

Well, if Rufus recommends it....

[Drake]

Had me going for a moment. You probably could sell that stuff to hipsters. Do those trendy Brooklyn buildings have fireplaces?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Trimming the wood with grooming scissors was classic.

[SimonD]

that's not real? darnit. My family has over 1000 acres in the Ozarks. I was going to make a fortune selling firewood to idiots.

dammit dammit dammit.

[Rufus The Monocled]

You can still try. Heck, I may even consider investing. There are a lot of hipsters ready to part with their money out there.

[Brett L]

True story, there's a Scandinavian company who buys special pine pellets for their "biomass" reactor from the Florida Panhandle. Old turpentine pine. Not sure how they determined they needed to buy this specific stuff, but there you go.

[SFC B]

I really hope they use the biomass reactor for some environmental reason, because I'd bet the logistics involved in transporting bulk freight from Florida to Scandinavia eats any benefit.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

I buy special pine pellets for my cat's "biomass" repository.

[Rhywun]

LOL no hipster can afford a fireplace

[Ska]

What about the yuppies living among them?

[Chipwooder]

Oh I totally think you could con hipsters into buying that.

[waffles]

So is CBC the Canuckistani version of SNL. This sketch is a riot.

[Rufus The Monocled]

It's where The Red Green Show, Four on the Floor and The Kids in the Hall were born.

The CBC has had its moments but...still should be privatized.

[waffles]

This almost cancels out Justin Bieber.

[Crusty Juggler]

It does not.

[Rat]

What about Bryan Adams and that bitch Anne Murray?

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

WHAT MORE DOES GLASS TIGER HAVE TO DO?!?!?!??

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

The Red Green Show was produced first by CHCH-TV in Hamilton, Ontario, then by CFPL-TV in London, then by the Global Television Network, before finally finding its permanent home at CBC Television for the 1997 season (its seventh) onward. The show was renamed The New Red Green Show upon its move to Global, and would keep this title until its second season at CBC.

[Rufus The Monocled]

I thought it was considered to be *officially* CBC. But I remember seeing it on CJOH.

[DEG]

I also thought it was a CBC show. Interesting.

[That's A Bingo!]

The CBC is a thought leader, waffles.

[waffles]

This is also pretty great.

[Rufus The Monocled]

The CBC also has REX MURPHY to drive the progs nuts. Love Cross Country Check Up.

[That's A Bingo!]

They also brought us the riderless bike.

[Pi Guy]

What the actual fuck?

[VG Zaytsev]

Is it gluten free?

[Mantis Toboggan, Jr.]

Mark Zuckerberg wants to visit all 50 states in 2017.

50 states!? That's gonna set him back.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Pft. Obama visited all 57 states.

[jack sprat]

^Damn, I was coming in to say this.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Everyone was coming to say this, but you let the Canadian beat you to it.

[Rufus The Monocled]

There's still much work left to do to MAGA.

[Pro Libertate]

Speaking of that, has a PM ever visited each province and territory?

[Rufus The Monocled]

You're just trolling now.

[Pro Libertate]

No, I'm encouraging Zoolander to hike to Nunavut.

[The Last American Hero]

Your "provinces" are just an extension of the US. That's what Obama meant by 57.

[Rufus The Monocled]

He's still short by three 'provinces'.

[DRM]

Nah. Prince Edward Island doesn't count, it's too small. Quebec doesn't count, it's too French. And Alberta doesn't count, because that's just the Canadian name for Texas.

[Peachy rex]

He's leaving you Quebec, Ontario and BC. Is he not merciful?

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

54'40" or Fight!

[Rat]

This is the Trump era ... 90? and fight!

[some guy]

This is easy to do even (especially?) if you don't have much money. Why is this news? Do you really expect me to click through to the source, Ed?

[DOOMco]

and hes loaded. i cant see why this is a thing.
"billionaire spends time traveling"

okaaayy

[some guy]

Ok... I did click through to the source. The new is that he wants to talk to lots of normal people about stuff.

[Ska]

Those fucking wacky normals and their regular shit.

[DOOMco]

jesus. that wont be sanctimonious.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

I'll cut him some slack. If he's at all concerned about the long-term prospects of his business model, this might be a smart move. It's like the complete opposite of the Jack-off Twitter doofus CEO.

[Tonio]

DC and offshore territories feel snubbed?

I wonder if he's going to try for a career in politics. Would love to see that...wipe the smug right off his face.

[That's A Bingo!]

I said that some lefty businessman would make a run at the White House in 2020.

[PapayaSF]

If Zuck ever decided to do that, it would not be anytime soon.

[Tonio]

What's the minimum age, 45? So he has like twenty years to go...

[That's A Bingo!]

35. He's 32.

[Rhywun]

The article says something about how he wants to see for himself the kind of rubes that voted for Trump.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Prosecutors referred to a journal by Dylann Roof where he wrote he had no regrets in arguing he be sentenced to death.
It doesn't count unless you tattoo it across your pecs.

[Agammamon]

Pikers. Tattoo it across your face. Nothing says 'IDGAF' like not being able to get a job for your principles.

[Pro Libertate]

Vorga, I kill you filthy.

[thrakkorzog]

I think it's safe to say that his job prospects are limited, with or without a tattoo.

[Fist of Etiquette]

I wouldn't use protection.

[Rhywun]

So... like the average pro sports figure? I guess if you're already a millionaire by the age of 23 you're good.

[thrakkorzog]

Because if there one thing pro-athletes are know for, it is responsible financial planning. They're almost as good as rock stars.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

BBC has an awesome story about Cold War espionage, about a Czech spy who assumed the identity of a Dutch orphan born during the war to cross into the West - and who was tracked down by the orphan's mother soon after.

Inside, Van Haarlem was hunched over a radio in his kitchen. He was still wearing his pyjamas, but his hair was parted neatly to one side. He was tuned in, as he was every morning, to a mysterious "number station". In his earpiece, a female voice recited numbers in Czech, followed by the blip-bleep of Morse code.
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Under a bright spotlight at a police station in Central London, Van Haarlem protested his innocence. Then, 10 days later, things turned really strange: a visitor arrived claiming to be the prisoner's mother. Johanna van Haarlem was a Dutch woman in her early sixties, who peered at detectives from behind huge glasses. Her son was no spy, she insisted, but an honest Dutchman - the child she had abandoned in 1944 and rediscovered 11 years earlier. The baffled detectives allowed her to visit their suspect.

[John Titor]

she insisted, but an honest Dutchman

I maybe be the son of a Dutchman, but come on, "honest"? Doesn't exist.

[Zeb]

I thought orphans didn't have mothers.

[PapayaSF]

Cool story. Thanks.

[TheZeitgeist]

North Korea has a government-customized Android tablet.

Probably most secure distro available.

[Agammamon]

. . . has a . . .

And Kim is upset that others hog it to play Angy Birds all day long - he wants his Fruit Ninja.

[TheZeitgeist]

They say someone gets mugged in Caracas every ten seconds on average.

That poor bastard.

[gaoxiaen]

It's better than lugging around 80 pounds of cash looking for a pack of chewing gum.

[Holger da Dane]

That's all they need, no NORK could afford a tablet, and if they could they would have no electricity to power it.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Shhh .. it's just an Apple Newton.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Some writers are upset Milo Yiannopolous got a book deal and are helping to get him more publicity.

LEAVE THE WRY OBSERVATIONS TO THE COMMENTERS, KRAYEWSKI.

[Ted S.]

Isn't that what the alt-text is for?

[Citizen X]

North Korea has a government-customized Android tablet.

+1 Etch-a-sketch

[jesse.in.mb]

I wonder if the hardware was built in ?? (Kaesong).

[Citizen X]

Oh, look who's bragging about his hangul character map.

[jesse.in.mb]

Nah. I just copied and pasted. I used to be able to type (slowly) in hangul but my Korean is rusty at this point and I don't remember the keymap anymore.

[SQWRLZ: Deplorable Woodchipper]

+2 Etch-a-sketch is the platform I recommend to certain end users.

[DEG]

North Korea has a government-customized Android tablet.

Food, of course, is optional.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Barack Obama told Democrats to "stay strong" on Obamacare.

Even though the worst political fallout is yet to come?

[Citizen X]

"Even though, uh, it may, uh, cost you reelection, that's... that's a sacrifice i'm, uh, willing to make."

[lafe.long]

John McAfee: Russia Did Not Hack The DNC

McAfee argues that the report is a "fallacy," explaining that hackers can fake their location, their language, and any markers that could lead back to them. Any hacker who had the skills to hack into the DNC would also be able to hide their tracks, he said

Wacky libertarian.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

The DNC's password was probably in one of John Podesta's emails with the heading "DNC PASSWORD! SECRET!"

[Rhywun]

"p0de$t@" isn't even that hard to memorize.

[Password: pode$ta]

OK I GET IT ALREADY JESUS

[The Last American Hero]

I thought it was

Ready4Her!

[Ted S.]

Would have been lucky to get 1% of the vote.

[John]

It is funny that the media and apparently at least a few intelligence services are so willfully ignorant, Macafee needs to explain to them that the physical location of your IP address doesn't necessarily correspond to your actual location.

[Rich]

Oh, *now* you've gone and done it!

[John]

I am just going to go out on a limb here and say that when Russian intelligence services hack government officials in a foreign country, they are smart enough not to use a Russian IP address when doing so.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

And I'm going to go out on another limb and say that when non-Russian hackers hack government officials in the US, they are smart enough to use a Russian IP address when doing so.

[The Fusionist]

But their very use of a Russian IP address would show that they're *not* Russians!

If they *really* were non-Russians seeking to pose as Russians, they'd get a non-Russian IP address.

Except that's the very thing they know they'd be *expected* to do.

So maybe they'll get a non-Russian IP address so people think they're Russians.

But what if the hackers *are* Russian? Then in order to throw investigators off the trail they'd use a Russian IP address to fool everyone into thinking they're non-Russians posing as Russians.

[The Fusionist]

But wait! What if that's exactly what their adversaries would expect them to do?

By this time, the Russian hackers have hit the vodka, said "fuck it," and used Russian IP addresses.

[dschwar]

Truly your intellect is dizzying.

[The Fusionist]

"Da, intellect is dizzying, is why room is spinning."

[gaoxiaen]

A battle of wits to the death.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U_eZmEiyTo0

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Look, they traced all the IPs! All of them! Simultaneously! And so the hacker could be using the Virtual DNS through seven proxies, and they'd still trace him in...dammit, 32 seconds! He logged off after 31!

/Holywood CompSci

[Citizen X]

+2 people typing on one keyboard simultaneously

[Mantis Toboggan, Jr.]

You forgot to mention the map in the background showing the real-time line tracing.

[TheZeitgeist]

Can't forget the gameshow-graphics and sounds activated when line tracing arrives at 'destination,' followed by excited utterance of "I'M IN!"

[John Titor]

Look Pan, the files were in the computer. IN THE COMPUTER.

[some guy]

Ignorance. Lies. Could we tell the difference?

[Zero Sum Game]

That's how you know that the Russians are really wily. They know that, so they hid their tracks poorly because nobody would believe that they were such inexpert hackers.

INEPTITUDE IS COMPETENCE.

We were always at war with Russia.

[Brett L]

I read a good technical article on what was used and it is old (as in not current major version) Ukranian hacker tool that is publicly available. And also analyzed the IPs and it was pretty clear that those were not smoking guns. Kmele and Matt and Moynihan are convinced there is HUMINT about this, but none of what they have released seems any different from other black hat (private) ops.

[Brett L]

Apparently I wrote this is Russian-accented English. Find moose und squirrel!

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Embrace it, tovarisch! Down with tyranny of articles! Eliminate the parasitic diphthongs!

[Bill Dalasio]

Hmmmm......anyone know if McAfee has an alibi on the hacking?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Any computer with McAfee is immune to malwarre, because no malware (or any other software) can find resources to do anything.

[TheZeitgeist]

McAfee is the malware you know.

[Tonio]

Sick burn, yo.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I worked user support (including desktop) for six years. My rage reserves on the subject are endless.

[jesse.in.mb]

God, fuck McAffee software. My mother calls me *after* she pays for a two year subscription to the software whenever the three month trial runs out on the last two computers she's gotten. It's highway robbery sending that out into the world with a new computer to old people's homes.

[Zero Sum Game]

My computer is slow! Look, I'll show you. *Opens Internet Explorer 6.0* You see more toolbars than you thought could be installed, taking up one third of the 1024x768 CRT monitor. The desktop is filled to the brim with icons. One catches your eye. "Ah, yes, Quicktime, my old nemesis, we meet again."

You close the hundred open applications. You get to work uninstalling the thousand programs that were installed once and never used again. You install a fresh copy of Chrome and remove the icon for IE6 from the desktop altogether, cleverly renaming the icon for Chrome "The Internet" and even setting the icon to IE's. They'll probably never notice. Bonzi Buddy and Clippy face off in the corner for one last throw-down, which you referee for old time's sake, and then deftly destroy both along with all the other malware.

You show off the PC, which now runs like new. The user is delighted. You're a magician, they tell you.

A week later you get a call "What did you do to my PC? I can't install anything anymore." You ask what the dialog says. It's from an up-to-date malware scanner stopping the fresh hell they plan to create now. You explain it all to them. "I need this program. Put it back the way it was."

You calmly hang up and pour yourself a double scotch. You down it and then remove the revolver from your drawer with a sigh. You, or them. It's come to this.

[W. Chipper Dove]

That was beautiful, man.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

?Mark Zuckerberg wants to visit all 50 states in 2017

Who? And why do I care? That's not really a huge feat.

[Rich]

He's obviously learned from Hillary that this qualifies you for the presidency.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

That's not really a huge feat anymore.

I should amend. If this were the 1850s, I guess that'd be mildly impressive, because it would indicate that he has a lot of money and a lot of free time.

Or is a hobo.

[Ted S.]

It would be more impressive if it were the 1850s since there weren't 50 states at the time. :-p

[PBR Streetgang]

I'm 2 slo 🙁

[PBR Streetgang]

Doubly impressive to visit all 50 visits in 1850, as there were only 31 states at the time.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

Yeah, well, your mom is doubly impressive to visit all 50 visits in 1850, as there were only 31 states at the time.

[some guy]

Yeah, nowadays going on a road trip is usually easier when you're poor because money usually comes with responsibilities.

[Rich]

Prosecutors referred to a journal by Dylann Roof where he wrote he had no regrets in arguing he be sentenced to death.

And defenders said "SEE?! HE'S INCOMPETENT!!"

[Mantis Toboggan, Jr.]

North Korea has a government-customized Android tablet.

It has a Siri-like voice controlled app. Granted, all you're allowed to do with it is praise Kim Jong-un, but still.

[Juvenile Bluster]

User: "Siri, what's the weather in Pyongyang?"

Siri: "Cold with rain likely"

(user, under his breath) "Dammit"

[Siri reports insult to authorities, man and his family are invited to spend their lives at a work camp]

[Zero Sum Game]

man and his family are invited to spend their lives at a work camp

You're a winner!

[Zeb]

Oh, I'm sure you can also praise Great Leader and Dear Leader.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Hello, Kim. You're. Quite good at. Turning. Me on.

[GILMORE?]

Not sure why, but today seems to be the most-substance-rich single day of postings @ H&R i've seen since... before the election. which would mean something like, "Summer of 2015".

seriously. Every single post (with the possible exception of Robby & his 'more pointless shit that happened on college campuses') seemed to touch on a novel topic, and provided an angle that you weren't likely to find anywhere else.

or maybe it was that something else was missing.

regardless, i spent far more time actually reading the stories than hurr-durring in the comments.

[Tonio]

You actually read the staff's posts?

[Pro Libertate]

He reads the commentary, which is the Platonic form of each post.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

Durrrrrrr

[John Titor]

I know, after reading the They Live story I have a sudden urge to SUBSCRIBE TO REASON.

[SIV]

Mark Zuckerberg wants to visit all 50 states in 2017.

Do it right, do it in 50 days

[some guy]

Why not 8 days?

[The Last American Hero]

In an ambulance, with an incompetent but lovable sidekick, a crazy "doctor", and a smokin' hot environmental activist.

[thrakkorzog]

Where is the orangutan supposed to sit?

[Brett L]

Heyduke Lives!

[GILMORE?]

GLOBAL WARMING CONFIRMED, HATERS

[Brett L]

Its weird how their readings since the 1990s has caused them to significantly revise down the pre-1980 readings. I just can't fathom that every fucking weather station (or a majority, or a minority who seriously did so) in the US systemically underreported temperature for 50 years. Sorry, the when the "signal" is in the direction you are biasing, and not significantly larger than your bias, I'm gonna wait for other evidence to emerge.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Your masters:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=curRLQfQgbo

[Rich]

Monkey business as usual, Rufus. 8-(

[$park? is totally a Swifty]

North Korea has a government-customized Android tablet.

The entire country has A single tablet.

[lafe.long]

The J.M. Smucker Company Announces a Limited Voluntary Recall on Certain Lots of Canned Cat Food Due to Low Levels of Thiamine (Vitamin B1)

Cats fed diets low in thiamine for several weeks may be at risk for developing a thiamine deficiency. Thiamine is essential for cats. Symptoms of deficiency displayed by an affected cat can be gastrointestinal or neurological in nature. Early signs of thiamine deficiency may include decreased appetite, salivation, vomiting, and weight loss. In advanced cases, neurological signs can develop, which include ventroflexion (bending towards the floor) of the neck, wobbly walking, circling, falling, and seizures.

[Citizen X]

To be fair, frequent vomiting seems to be a symptom of just being a cat.

[Tonio]

^This.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

This is why I get all of my Thiamine from dog food.

[SIV]

Even indoor cats have access to a good source of thiamin.

[Rich]

NASA says mysterious object hurtling towards Earth could be an asteroid or a comet

NASA said that the object is "not a threat to Earth for the foreseeable future".

Oh, well.

[jesse.in.mb]

Maybe we can start a Change.org petition to get it to obliterate us.

[John Titor]

SMOD giveth and SMOD taketh away.

[Mickey Rat]

SMOD did not win the election.

[Rat]

Damn ballot access restrictions!

[SugarFree]

WikiLeaks threatens to sue CNN over commentator calling Assange 'pedophile'

WikiLeaks is threatening CNN with a defamation lawsuit after a commentator called Julian Assange a "pedophile who lives in the Ecuadorian embassy in London."

Former CIA counterterrorism official Phil Mudd used the term to describe Assange on CNN's "New Day" on Wednesday morning while discussing the WikiLeaks founder's interview with Fox News a night earlier.

You stay classy, Dem op.

[John]

Wasn't he accused of some bogus rape in Sweden? I don't recall any accusation that he was into kids. Where the hell did that come from?

[SugarFree]

Yeah, the Sweden stuff is what he is using sanctuary for. This new thing is so obviously bogus, Daily Kos has deleted its article.

In an amazing twist, the Buzzfeed article about it is pretty good.

[John]

Assange probably has more enemies than any man on earth. I have a hard time believing that he could be a kiddy diddler and we wouldn't have heard about it by now.

[Zero Sum Game]

Isn't he also trying to avoid US espionage act nonsense? I'd stay the hell away from anywhere the US could get its hands on me too were I in his position.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

The guy saying it is CIA. Obviously he knows something the rest of us don't, and he must be telling the truth.

[John]

Like I said above, the numerous governments who hate Assange and want his head on a platter of refrained from telling the world about that all this time out of kindness I suppose. The CIA knows he is a pedophile but didn't see any reason to let the authorities in the UK or Ecuador or the public at large know about it. Yeah, that makes sense.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

He totally looks like a pedo, but I've never heard any actual allegations of such.

Even if he were, it wouldn't change the fact that he comes off as more trustworthy on this issue that the MSM or a bunch of vague claims from anonymous intelligence sources.

[Fist of Etiquette]

8-year-olds, Dude.

[John]

Don't fuck with the Jesus.

[Tyler.C]

Oh it's OK when assange does it but not Trump...

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Since I know Reasonoids are such huge fans of PM Zoolander, here's some incisive analysis from our Beloved State Broadcaster: Stakes high for Trudeau as world's last major progressive leader standing.

"When progress stalls, fear moves forward," Trudeau said in Montreal on Feb. 20, 2014, addressing the opening night of a Liberal Party convention.

After criticizing Quebec Premier Pauline Marois' Charter of Values, Trudeau moved to the economy and a critique of Conservative policies.

"We have a real problem," he said. "The middle class is in trouble. People haven't had a real raise in 30 years, while inequality has increased and household debt has exploded.

"Those who practise the politics of division see this as an opportunity to exploit ? It's always much easier to distract people from a problem than it is to solve it. People are susceptible to fearful, divisive messages when they are worried. Worried about their jobs, their debts, their retirement, their kids' future."

Recycling Obama's speeches from six years previously is how you can tell Zoolander is a Major World Leader!

[Drake]

Sometimes when I'm walking fast, then stop quick, pensiveness moves forward and elation goes a few feet to my left. It's weird when emotions start travelling.

[Pro Libertate]

Can't we liberate Canada or something?

[jesse.in.mb]

Do you just want to fill the warm weather states with Canadian refugees after we turn Canada into a third world shithole by our meddling?

[Pro Libertate]

I already get enough of that from Less-North Americans.

[John Titor]

You say that as if half the population of Florida doesn't migrate from Toronto every year.

[Pro Libertate]

I wish it were just you.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Quebec OWNS Hollywood and Ft. Lauderdale. Ask JB.

[jesse.in.mb]

Half? Are there that few NY Jewesses, Cubans, middle-aged gay men and swamp people?

[Brett L]

He's exaggerating. Fully 3/4 of Canada would have to move to FL in the winter for that to happen. Besides, there are so many bad drivers from NY, VT, and MI that I haven't even cussed a Canadian in the last week.

[Pro Libertate]

A lot of criticisms of Florida and Floridians are about the invaders, not us. Why is it legal to get rid of pythons and lionfish but not other, more temporary, pestilences?

[Brett L]

I think our tax rate would have to quadruple to cover the loss of income.

[jesse.in.mb]

Ummm are you suggesting getting rid of (((retirees)))?

Because that makes me vaguely uncomfortable.

[Pro Libertate]

Not the full-time residents. They can stay.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"A lot of criticisms of Florida and Floridians are about the invaders, not us."

You keep telling yourself that. I mean, I don't see any stories of drug users eating faces except by people in Florida, which makes me think it's less the drug's fault and...

[Heroic Mulatto]

middle-aged gay men and swamp people

Sometimes that combination is a two-for-one.

[jesse.in.mb]

WHY DO I CLICK THROUGH!?

[Ted S.]

Trudeau and the PQ deserve each other.

The rest of Canada deserves neither.

[John Titor]

And now Kevin O'Leary is considering becoming Canadian Donald Trump. We need to double down and out-stupid the Americans, FOR THE GOOD OF THE NATION.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Seriously. You know things are bad when people turn to our version of a loud mouth'd shnook.

I'd still take him over Justin. He's just not ready; heck, he'll never be ready.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Anything they can do, we can do, only dumber, blander and more un-fun! It's what Canada is built on!

[John Titor]

WE'RE GOING TO BUILD THE WALL, AND MAKE DETROIT PAY FOR IT.

[Rufus The Monocled]

And Vermont and Plattsburgh!

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

WE ARE GOING TO BUILD THE WALL*!

*each segment of the wall will be a responsibility of the province through whose territory it passes. The funding will be federal-provincial partnership, with funding shares determined in bilateral meetings over the next 18 months, revised every 6 months.
Each province may set its own work rules, but not material, height or width rules. Provinces may collaborate on the wall but any such will be coordinated through the Office of Inter-Provincial Wall Collaboration in Ottawa.
Cities the wall touches, or passes withing 12 km of, will be consulted in informal consultations with the PMO, but will not be required to fund them, except in cases where they are.

[John Titor]

Holy shit that's a perfect representation of Canadian federalism.

Don't forget that as a federal institution THE WALL will also have to be known as LE MUR and have snipers yell warnings in both English and French.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I may have to confess I have a soft spot for British-style shambolic organization of government, where shit is done mostly because it's always been done that way, and it was done that way originally due to different weightings of cronyism, cheapness and laziness, without ever falling into Full Mediterranean Government.
The sort of thing that drives French and Germans up the wall.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Heh. It's funny because Detroit can't pay for anything.

[Pro Libertate]

Jesus, guys, Shatner! Before he's gone!

[PapayaSF]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kevin_O'Leary

He sounds like a pretty accomplished guy. What makes him "stupid"?

[PapayaSF]

A better version of that link.

[Rufus The Monocled]

So young. So naive.

[Rufus The Monocled]

He's alright but he's no statesman. And his debating skills leaves much to be desired.

[John Titor]

Better businessman than statesman, better critic than actual leader, he's good on debt and a few things but not much else, you can't run on a 'fuck the party' attitude in a Parliamentary system, the office of the Prime Minister is not the same as a Presidency, and have to actually make deals with Premiers rather than act like the country's CEO. A shot-for-shot Canadian Donald Trump would be a disaster because without 'free trade' our economy collapses.

[Brett L]

Did Merkel exit office while I wasn't looking?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

As article says, she's technically considered a Conservative. And she is - her coalition partners/bitter enemies in SPD are actual left, and there are lefter parties gathering steam (Greens and 'reformed' Commies).

[Mickey Rat]

This is wrong. Raul Castro still rules.

[lafe.long]

Smith & Wesson's New Meat & Potatoes Pistol: The M&P M2.0

For those looking for a filling meal of a gun and who know they can trust the dual ampersand brands of S&W and M&P, the new M&P M2.0 pistol should prove irresistible at an MSRP of $599. It is already available in the three most popular pistol calibers: 9mm, 40S&W and .45 Auto. is available in matte black or FDE ? Flat Dark Earth ? finishes and includes two magazines, a limited lifetime warranty, and a lifetime service policy.

[Drake]

Nice to see a proper safety on a pistol and a normal trigger.

[GILMORE?]

the safety is optional, and the trigger is a dual-function safe-trigger (like glock) which will not fire if actuated with any side-angle pulling (e.g. a snag)

[GILMORE?]

the OG M&P was actually a .38 revolver from the turn of the century

[GILMORE?]

a 2001 MAD TV Sketch Predicted the Future "Offense-Taking" Culture

you could argue that @3:10 forward is how the "Alt Right" was born

[PapayaSF]

Very good.

[SimonD]

I don't know whether to laugh or cry.

[????? ????]

Black American television writer and author Danielle Henderson, whose memoir is due out from Simon & Schuster next year, tweeted: "I'm looking at my @simonschuster contract, and unfortunately there's no clause for 'what if we decide to publish a white nationalist.'"

Milo is a lot of things but... white nationalist?

[Juvenile Bluster]

Milo is an idiot troll that has a huge audience, and 99% of his fame is a result of people trying to ban him from [insert thing here].

[John]

Milo is very funny. And he also has balls the size of tennis balls. I really don't get the hate thrown his way on here. What has Milo ever done besides make SJW's look like the nasty fools they are?

[Juvenile Bluster]

Nothing, really. He's made a career out of trolling.

But you have to say that the vast majority of his popularity is as a result of the backlash to him (the initial backlash from gamergate, and then the further backlash against his college appearances/books/etc.)

[John]

He is popular because he is funny and lampoons easy targets that no one else seems to have the balls to go after. Does that make him some profound figure? No. But it does make him a valuable figure and one worthy of respect. If it is so easy to go after these assholes, why is he the only one doing it?

I talk a good game and I certainly don't lack for courage, but I am not sure I could make a career going out to college campuses poking those idiots with a stick the way Milo does. I have to respect him for doing that.

To quote Joe from Lowell, Milo is out doing God's work in some of America's toughest neighborhoods.

[esteve7]

Pointing out SJW idiocy and logical fallacies is not 'trolling'.

It's gotten to a point where any disagreement to any SJW flavor of the month talking point is labelled 'trolling', because you know EVERYONE agrees with the SJWs except those TROLLS

[waffles]

That's a good point. I really want to believe this election was some kind of eclipse and we will go back to some kind of sanity. But I know we won't. The derp will evolve into new and terrifying heretofore unseen forms.

[John]

what esteve 7 said.

[Zeb]

That's true. But sometimes it is trolling. And sometimes trolling is amusing and insightful.

There are millions of people pointing out SJW idiocy and logical fallacies all the time. Many are not trolling. Some are.

[John]

But what does he do that constitutes trolling and makes him worthy of disdain? I am serious Zeb. I really don't see him doing anything other than going on to college campuses and calmly explaining how stupid these people are. I encourage you to watch some of his youtube videos. They from what I have seen consist of him calmly taking these people to task why they whine and scream like angry toddlers.

[Zeb]

I'll tell you what. I will watch some of his videos so I can form a more informed opinion.

[ant1sthenes]

Yeah, but who uses the word "gadfly" these days?

[jesse.in.mb]

Yeah, but who uses the word "gadfly" these days?

Pretty much anyone who has read about Diogenes of Sinope and thinks themselves especially clever, regardless of actual cleverness.

[Pro Libertate]

Diogenes did some weird shit. Allegedly.

[Zeb]

I kind of like him for that, but it doesn't make him not an idiot troll.

[John]

Okay Zeb. What does make him an idiot troll? I don't see him as that at all. What am I missing?

[Zeb]

I don't know enough to say if he is an idiot or not. I meant only what I wrote. It seems not completely unfair to say that he is often trolling SJW types.

And who doesn't enjoy a little trolling from time to time? You certainly do get off on pushing people's buttons. Milo clearly does too. I think that's a lot of what people mean by trolling.

[John]

I go back to what esteven said above. His writing consists of calling SJWs out for their hypocrisy and idiocy. I can see where you could disagree with his opinions about say Muslims or Muslim immigration, but I don't think you can call it trolling. Trolling is when someone holds an opinion they don't really believe for the purpose of torturing and enraging the other side. Milo doesn't do that. Milo just holds strong but not unreasonable or insincere opinions but says them loudly and unapologetically and that has the effect of enraging SJWs.

[Zeb]

Perhaps the disagreement is because the definition of "troll" I'm working with at the moment doesn't require that the troll's expressed views are disingenuous, but rather has to do with the manner in which they are expressed.

[tarran]

Some of his antics, eg calling Trump "daddy" and entrances where he is carried to the lectern on a litter, are definitely intended to troll.

And, the daddy thing is pretty idiotic, but so are a large number of jokes in Mel Brooks' movies. Sometimes idiotic trolling is very, very funny. Occasionally, the idiocy is actually a work of sublime genius.

[Zeb]

That's kind of what I'm trying to say, tarran. saying he's a troll (and perhaps sometimes an idiot) isn't to say that he is a worthless piece of shit that everyone should ignore. It's just an observation about his style.

[John]

The daddy thing is funnier than hell. And what is even funnier is how many people don't get the joke.

[Zeb]

I guess my question is why do you assume it is an insult to say he is trolling. He clearly does a lot of what he does deliberately to annoy or provoke certain people. Which seems like a decent definition of trolling. And a lot of those people deserve to be annoyed in my opinion. Sometimes trolls are entertaining and useful.

[Hamster of Doom]

It seems a fair number of people think troll and trolling are... what's the word here, conjugations, direct word families? You know.

From what I understand, troll means a troll under a bridge, and trolling is used in the fishing sense.

[Zeb]

I figure the term for internet troublemakers is a bit of a combination of the two. Makes sense to me that way.

If not, I'd say he's at least trolling if not a troll. He knows what reaction he's going to get and that's what he wants.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

That's trawling.

[Hamster of Doom]

No. It's trolling. Trawling is when you use a net. Or a really thick Cajun accent.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

"What has Milo ever done besides make SJW's look like the nasty fools they are?"

That's pretty much exactly my criticism of him. What HAS he done besides that?? And SJW's do that on their own, so what actual PURPOSE does the guy serve??

[John]

What HAS he done besides that?

Why is he somehow obligated to do anymore? What have you done at all? And the SJW idiots bully the hell out of people and frequently ruin people's lives. Milo is one of the few people who stands up to them in a public way.

And yet, your criticism is that he stands up to them. Ultimately, people like you just can't bring themselves to side with him no matter how right he may be. You always have to have the "but he is just a troll" qualification thrown in.

PC culture is a totalitarian menace that has done tremendous damage to our freedom and our culture at large. And he is one of the few people who has stood up and gone back after these people. And what thanks does he get from Libertarians? A bunch of hate from people like you too afraid to be associated with the wrong sorts of people. I mean God fucking forbid you be associated with the wrong tyeps. It is just fucking pathetic.

[????? ????]

I'm glad Twitter took a stand, it seems to have massively reduced his influence.

(sarc if not obvious)

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

He's a nationalist who talks openly about fucking black men in the ass. Therefore...

[Drake]

We'll... he wasn't very specific on which end of that exchange he is typically on.

[Tonio]

Where do you want your interwebs delivered to, Drake?

[CatoTheChipper]

Actually, he has been quite specific about his lust to "suck black dicks" in his own words.

Other than his descriptions of his sexual preferences, I think that Milo is entertaining. Call me a prude, but I really don't find a speaker's descriptions of his sexual proclivities to be entertaining.

[John Titor]

I know so many white nationalists that let black men cum on their face.

[jesse.in.mb]

Less implausible than you might think.

[Heroic Mulatto]

He said knowingly....

*wink*

[thrakkorzog]

They're usually not as honest about it.

[Chipwooder]

Much like "racist", "white nationalist" essentially means nothing more now than "person I don't like"

[PapayaSF]

Don't forget "fascist"! And the newly-popular "white supremacist."

[SimonD]

There could be something to that. The lefties use 'white nationalist' to mean 'person who disagrees with my statism' because when they use 'racist' now, people just tell them to fuck off.

[Hamster of Doom]

na?tion?al?ism
?naSH(?)n??liz?m/
noun
patriotic feeling, principles, or efforts.

White people who like where they were born must be stopped at all costs. We can't be having with white people liking where they were born. The very idea.

[Zeb]

Depends if "white" is a modifier for the nationalism or for the nationalist.

Let's not pretend that the kind of "white nationalist" they mean doesn't exist. They may be almost completely politically irrelevant, but they are out there.

[PapayaSF]

True, but irrelevant for most discussions. There are Trotskyites around, but that wouldn't excuse dragging them into every political discussion, the way the left does with terms like "white nationalist."

[Hamster of Doom]

The problem isn't the term. They mean racists, and they exist. Hell, my kids are related to some on both sides, you should hear my Latina sister-in-law talk. Putting her in a room with my father would be very noisy.

It's not all that common these days on a grand scale, but it's definitely around. Never went away. Maybe never will, certainly not on the trajectory we're headed.

They've made "racist" meaningless, so they need to come up with new codewords to signal the boogeyman. "White racist warmonger" is too clumsy to be catchy and you only get 140 characters on Twitter. So nationalism is now bad.

It doesn't have to make sense, it just has to be repeated until it catches on.

[Eternal Blue Sky]

Nationalism IS pretty fucking stupid.

I mean, do you think any differently?? Can you look around at your fellow countrymen and say "Yeah, I like all of these people who were born in the same place I was" with a straight face??

[ant1sthenes]

Is that what it's saying, or is it saying "I like those attributes which define the nation-grouping I belong to" or "I want to advance the common interests of my nation-grouping".

At any rate, a nation should be properly understood an ethnic/cultural grouping somewhere in between "tribe" and "all humanity" in scale, not just a random selection of people in an arbitrarily defined geographical area. For example, a collection of several tribes related not just by political convenience but by a shared cultural narrative or community identity would be called a nation. The term "nation-state" increasingly has fuck all to do with nations, though.

[Heroic Mulatto]

The term "nation-state" increasingly has fuck all to do with nations, though.

As it should. The nation state really only worked the context of a relatively small window of history (Peace of Westphalia to 1930ish) in one geographical region (Western Europe).

[PapayaSF]

Exactly. Nations (and nationalism) make sense the same way families do, at a larger scale. The fact that we don't always like other family members is irrelevant.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

And since he's British, that means...what? God, Queen (or King), Country? Wogs start at Callais? We have the ships, we have the men, we have the money, too?

"White supremacist" is what they're looking for. "Nationalist" requers a goddamn Nation. Like, you know Britain (or England). Or America. You can't be a nationalist of both (and Germany for good measure)!

[Heroic Mulatto]

PAN-NORDICISM!

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Is that a thing? Cause I heard a Norwegian tell Swedish jokes...

[Heroic Mulatto]

Yeah. That's why Hans Christian Andersen wrote all those fairy tales. But your example also shows why it failed when the Nazis tried it.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I could tell them from history of Pan-Slavism, it doesn't work when one country starts conquering others (looking at you, Sweden).
Shit, after, what, five centuries? of Pan-Germanic ideal, Bavarians still look askance at Prussians.

[Zeb]

Good point. It is a bit of an odd term.

I think there are self-identified "white nationalists" who want to create a white nation in the US. But it's just idiotic to think that those people are any significant political force.

[John Titor]

It means he's going to start starting around the world and planting flags again.

[John Titor]

*Start sailing. Jesus.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

MAKE GREAT BRITAIN AGAIN!

[GILMORE?]

but... white nationalist?

Its Twitter-true. meaning, 1000s of people repeat it, therefore its established fact.

[GILMORE?]

The Symbol of the Arrival of the American Dark-Ages

[John]

The elevator was bad in 2011 when they had the earthquake. They say it will be fixed in 2019. Even by government standards, how the hell does it take 8 years to fix a single elevator? You could build a whole new monument in that time.

[Pro Libertate]

They're waiting to rename it the Obamaton Monument.

[That's A Bingo!]

President Trump won't stand for this. Gonna be the greatest elevator in the world. The fastest, tallest elevator. People all over the world will come to Washington to ride the elevator. There will be lines.

[John]

Whatever you think of Trump, my guess is the guy knows how to get an elevator fixed.

[Pro Libertate]

Whoa, dude, don't forget that it has to be period-accurate. A manual elevator?

[Brett L]

Does the operator have to be black?

[Pro Libertate]

Not at all. It can be a Chinaman or a woman.

[John]

Yeah but only if the woman looks good in hose and a short skirt.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Go on...

[thrakkorzog]

Do these women also sell smokes?

[Pope Jimbo]

period-accurate?

It takes 28 days or so to go up and down?

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

APPLAUSENESS.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

If a president would spend more time focusing on fixing an elevator and less time on locking people up for buying drugs, he'd be the best president of my lifetime.

[PapayaSF]

If Trump can get a skating rink fixed, an elevator should not be much of a problem.

[Juice]

Well, the monument itself took 50 years or so.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

Pull that out, and America deflates.

[Rich]

Anti-surveillance clothing aims to hide wearers from facial recognition

Not just for Muslims anymore; but it'll be illegal in 3, 2, 1, ....

[SimonD]

It will be illegal, but muslims will demand (and get) a special religious exemption.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Canadian sentences:

http://bzfd.it/2hTahhJ

[Ted S.]

It's a bunch of fucking unfunny GIFs substituting for video that slow the site down to a crawl.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Just read the quotes.

[John Titor]

"Can I bum a dart off of you?"

Probably about 90% of my interactions with random strangers is this.

[DOOMco]

smokes, s'go!

[Rufus The Monocled]

16 more days until the President Progressive is gone!

[DEG]

Obama might be out of office, but he'll still be in the limelight. Unfortunately.

[Derp-o-Matic 5000]

He will never relinquish the limelight.

[Zero Sum Game]

The limelight was ultraviolet. It only metastasized him. President cancer's legacy can be found in every corner of the progosphere. Every proglodyte now shedding bitter tears for term limits and a rejection of Her.

[Rufus The Monocled]

Yeah but the damage will be limited.

[You ARE a Prog (MJG)]

That's a reasonably civilized nickname, Mike.

[esteve7]

Why are we not pulling all of Obama's quotes out to use against the dems who are screaming like little kids

"Go out there and win an election."
"Elections have consequences, and at the end of the day, I won."

Yeah go fuck yourselves Progs. You own no part of government so why do you think you should have a say in anything, especially after you used a narrow majority to ram through Obamacare, Net Neutrality, insane Labor Board Rulings, etc. Time to get some of your own medicine

[CatoTheChipper]

Progressives own CA, WA, OR, NY, MA, VT and a few others.

[Juvenile Bluster]

Donald Trump will nominate Jay Clayton to head the Securities and Exchange Commission

Asked the head of our Securities department (and an ardent liberal) if he knew the guy. Was told not directly, but he'd worked with a partner of his and knew of him. Said that "He's not really any different than Mary Jo White [current SEC Chair]". Make of that what you will.

[GILMORE?]

"Also, you're too old and too fat to be a fairy"

[jesse.in.mb]

Went in a different direction than I was expecting.

[GILMORE?]

i try to keep it interesting.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Faerie! FAERIE!

[PapayaSF]

Actually, she's thin to the point of being scary.

[GILMORE?]

GAH!! EVIL FAIRY!! EVIL FAIRY!!

[DEG]

She needs to eat something.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Oy vey!

[Crusty Juggler]

Would feed.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Well, the good news for her is that she'll be a shoe-in for the role of Skeletor when they finally get around to adapting a He-Man ballet...

[Bill Dalasio]

Well, I'd be happy to feed her some salami.

[SRVolunteer]

Showbiz is the one industry that has an exception for minority hiring protections. (as well as many other labor laws)

If you need a Arab woman who is approximately 25 and can realistically portray a fashion model, you can tell all the too-young, too-old, too-ugly, too-fat, whatever applicants for the part to fuck off.

It's actually going to be a lot of fun when the SJWs fully turn on Hollywood, from a lulz perspective. We're starting to see that, with stories like this, and with IMDB getting sued for publishing actresses actual ages, and with the Boys Don't Cry director getting booed off the stage. I may feel sorry for the injustices that will occur in individual cases, but Showbiz has been feeding this beast for a long time, and the beast will notice how plump and tasty Hollywood looks eventually.

[lafe.long]

Watched the Dana Carvey stand-up on Netflix.

Actually wasn't that bad.
Funny Trump, Hillary and Obama stuff.
Nice pro-capitalism bit. Nice anti-millenial bit.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

I found the funniest bit to be the Aer Lingus stuff. I felt that when I flew from Dublin to London they laid the brogue on a bit thick compared to what I heard around Dublin proper. Probably had the attendant draw on freckles, too. For us Yankees.

[GILMORE?]

F-Secure published a report about Russian hacking in 2015 that's 100X more detailed than the FBI "proof" of election-meddling.

(*it includes and covers the first instance of DNC phishing which was mentioned by the FBI)

It also shows that the same behavior has been nearly constant for the last ~7 years, further undermining any idea that this was somehow 'new or different'. The only thing that changed was its political utility.

[Brett L]

So catching up today, it looks like anti-Semites are trying to reinterpret They Live? I guess "capitalist" has always been a synonym for the Jews since Mark got popular.

[waffles]

I'm really glad (((they))) let this triple parentheses thing catch on.

[Brett L]

I forget does that mean you are being racist against them or they are racist? I forget the signal.

[waffles]

It became popular and do to ironic and nonsensical use it doesn't really mean anything anymore. All thanks to the (((globalists))).

[waffles]

I'm *due* for a cup of (((coffee))).

[Heroic Mulatto]

Maxwell House?

[Libertymike]

((( Howard Schultz ))) does not own Maxwell House, does ((( he )))?

[Heroic Mulatto]

It's a reference to this. Seeing the display in local supermarkets is pretty much how Jewish Americans know it's Spring.

[Libertymike]

Thanks HM - I was never aware of that.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

It's a reference to this. Seeing the display in local supermarkets is pretty much how Jewish Americans know it's Spring.

I thought it was the Passover Coke.

*Lights Tulpa Signal*

[John Titor]

Everyone's going to project their own bias onto work, always. It's like how Grave of the Fireflies is seen as an anti-war movie, when the director has openly said "No, it's not anti-war, it's about goddamn 80s Japanese kids not knowing how bad their parents had it".

[PapayaSF]

Worthwhile: Starvation and Silence: The British Left and Moral Accountability for Venezuela

Venezuela has become a collective unperson to those who formerly proclaimed it an example for humanity's emulation; although tacit recognition of their previous behavior is found in some of the apologists, as in Labour leader Jeremy Corbyn's deletion of any reference to 'Venezuela' from his website in March 2016, after two decades of promoting the Chavismo ideology in articles, demonstrations and media appearances.

[BestUsedCarSales]

OT: Any feelings on Ted Cruz's call for an amendment for congressional term limits?

[Pro Libertate]

Sure, why not? Not like they get better with age.

[Brett L]

I liked Stephen Green's take. "Philosophically, I oppose it. Practically, I support it."

If the staffers and lobbyists hadn't long ago colonized the bill writing process to the exclusion of the elected officials, I might oppose it. There's something to be said for the Appropriations guy who knows where every fucking dollar goes because its all been argued in front of him for 20 years. But I just don't see it as that important. Give them a full pension at the end and count it cheap.

[Pro Libertate]

What? No pensions, either.

[John]

I think the better solution would be to make the state's responsible for the paying of their staffs and their salaries. part of why they stay so long is that they set their own salaries and use their influence to make life in Congress a very good one. If they had to go begging hat in hand to the state legislature for pay and the means to hire staff, life would not be so pleasant and they would not want to stay in office so long eliminating the need for term limits.

[Zeb]

That's a really good idea. Making it easy to have a career in politics is not a good thing.

[John]

It would also enforce the idea that they are there to represent their respective states and districts not their parties. It should be up to the states they represent how big their salaries and staffs are. It should also be up to the states if there is a limit to their terms.

[Zeb]

More reminders that the US is supposed to be a federation of states is a good thing too.

[PapayaSF]

I'm in favor of the two-term limit: one term in office, one term in prison.

[The Last American Hero]

Judging by what I've seen at the state-level, it really doesn't seem to have the desired impact of clearing out the dead wood. All that happens is the senator runs for house, the house runs for county executive, the county exec runs for mayor, the mayor runs for governor and the governor runs for senate. Throw in a couple of spouses and adult children and the last names on the ballot don't even change.

[BestUsedCarSales]

Would you say that it is overall negative? Or just, underwhelming?

I am often disappointed by local government issues. I wish I could convince people to give shit down here in Tucson about what our city council does, since they obviously and consistently fuck our city over more than the feds do. But, no one ever does.

And then our city manager just got a raise to 280,000 dollars a year. Sucks.

[Glide]

Would be mildly happy to see it pass, even though philosophically it is a restriction on voting freedoms, not on Congress.

I think the "anti-freedom" component of it is exceptionally minor compared to the upside of not having any more Pelosis or McCains.

However as it is a mixed bag you won't see me lobbying for it, just leaning slightly toward liking it more than disliking.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Why we don't have flying cars.

[GILMORE?]

they wouldn't be cars if they flew

[Heroic Mulatto]

We won't having flying cars with that attitude!

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm sure all those DCs would've been working at JPL instead were there no chiropracty.

[jesse.in.mb]

I doubt they're actually DCs, I wonder what the accepted letter jumble would be. I'll ask my coworker to get a card from her horsechiro.

[Heroic Mulatto]

The guy claims to have graduated from here.

[jesse.in.mb]

Weird, I've never even heard of Logan and I've heard of a lot of chiropractic schools.

[Heroic Mulatto]

This is fucking terrifying:

Our ideal circumstance is what we call Pre-Conception Care. This is when parents come to us at least 2 years before conceiving a child to first correct unidentified health issues with them in order to prevent those genes from being passed down. If this time has already passed, our next line of defense is caring for an already pregnant mother where we can ensure they have the healthiest birth possible, to the best of our abilities. We start care with children as young as an hour old through adulthood.

Again, this isn't a genetic counselor writing this, it's a chiropractor. A chiropractor who believes fixing subluxations alters genes.

[Pro Libertate]

Adjusting reality.

[jesse.in.mb]

I'm sure he's just talking about the more Lamarckian* epigenetic problems or something...

*I look forward to your pedantic hate comments, bionerds.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Whenever I read the word "wellness" I tend to get afraid. Very afraid.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Wow, and Terry Pratchett thought he was being funny with retro-phrenology...

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Is this the 'alternative care' that Chelsea Clinton was trying top have air dropped in Syria or some such place where legs were being blown off?

[Libertymike]

HM, "fucking terrifying"?

At best, "truthful hyperbole".

At worst, you need an adjustment.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Yes, if a couple foregoes genetic counseling in lieu of seeing a chiropractor who claims he can alter a human's genetic structure by pressing on his or her back, then the prospect that couple might pass on something like Duchenne muscular dystrophy, giving birth to a son with severe mental, skeletal, and muscular problems, eventually leading to a necessary tracheotomy, as the diaphragm isn't strong enough for the child to breathe is fucking terrifying.

[Libertymike]

Not for the plaintiff's bar..... 🙂

[Heroic Mulatto]

Fair enough.

[ant1sthenes]

I'm guessing a solid supermajority of couples forego genetic counseling in favor of jack, so it isn't really that horrifying in context.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

But my friend told me there are no flying cars because Republicans.

[GILMORE?]

Put on your scuba suits, and prepare to dive into an ocean of slobber in AP's Assessment of Obama's 'Racial' Legacy

"could have been better" seems to be the most damning complaint, dwarfed by a mountain of praise.

there seems to be a lot focused on 'criminal justice reform' - tho frankly, i really don't think anyone else has tried selling Obama as any great Anti-Drug-War reformer. They suggest he "pushed for the law that reduced disparities between mandatory crack and powder cocaine sentences".... but did he, really? Or did it just happen while he was in office?

[The Last American Hero]

It's a lowpoint of his presidency. Even I thought "well, at least we can put a lot of that racial nonsense behind us, after a black president would seem to be the final chapter on the slavery/Jim Crow/CRA/Affirmative action saga." when he got elected. I was wrong, but I've chosen to pretend I'm right and refuse to acknowledge any claim that there is racism in our institutions.

[John]

Even if he has wanted to improve race relations, his supporters would have never stood for it. The fact is progs and particularly the media was not ready for a black President. They just are not mature enough or have gotten over their obsessions and neurosis about race to handle a black and especially black liberal President. They couldn't help but treat him differently than any other President and forever attribute any criticism of him no matter how valid to racism.

[Wasteland Wanderer]

Even if he has wanted to improve race relations, his supporters would have never stood for it. The fact is progs and particularly the media was not ready for a black President. They just are not mature enough or have gotten over their obsessions and neurosis about race to handle a black and especially black liberal President. They couldn't help but treat him differently than any other President and forever attribute any criticism of him no matter how valid to racism. need racial division and strife to hold their coalition of special interests together.

Fixed that for you.

[DOOMco]

weatherman cant figure this storm out.
boulder was supposed to get 4 inches of snow tonight. then it was over 14. now it's down to 8.
my work has no clue what we are doing tomorrow.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

The globe will be exactly this warm in 100 years.

[DOOMco]

we cant even get snow right, and im supposed to believe climate models? Not exactly the same but still.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

No, they're not the same. They're far shakier than the weather prediction for this afternoon.

[The artist known Dunphy]

Milo is fantastic and nobody is better at messing with SJWs and third wave feminists...

[DOOMco]

shapiro and gavin do well at it, but milo is a great sjw button pusher.

[The artist known Dunphy]

I enjoyed the Gavin-Milo full tongue kiss in Orlando.

take THAT!

[DOOMco]

this friend of mine also posted a meme (i guess) with princess leia doing the same thing as clinton.
then "vote for jabba!" under it
i didnt hit enter but i wrote this.
clinton is a rebel senator in this?
snowden fits that top part. he also stole information in an attempt to break an organizations horrible invention used on the innocent. wouldn't clinton be closer to the person who put her deathstar plans on a droid in a closet for anyone to get? and when the empire asked for them back she put the droid near a big magnet?
the arguments against her were also used by the green party and the libertarian party.

[The Last American Hero]

Clinton is the blue dude with the horns from the prequels that followed Palpatine around assuming that if the Emperor had a heart attack or keeled over from one too many force-lightning attacks, she would assume the throne.

[DOOMco]

i laughed. this guy is going off the deep end. he cant think at this point.

[Hamster of Doom]

wouldn't clinton be closer to the person who put her deathstar plans on a droid in a closet for anyone to get?

Oh, I giggled. Yes, I did.

[DOOMco]

*tips hat*

[Zero Sum Game]

So, I guess this exists now.

Another chapter in SJWism, or is it about to jump the shark?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

That's a pisstake. It has gotta be.

"The Bombshells are here to teach you tolerance - or else!" can only be written for mockery.

[Pro Libertate]

About to?

[Zero Sum Game]

The rabid screaming of proggies everywhere shows that it still has some staying power. They probably won't evaporate until the left fully disowns them and I've seen no evidence of that happening. There may be greater horrors ahead.

[Pro Libertate]

Something broke in their scam. Something I don't think they can fix.

[John Titor]

People got sick of their bullshit, they went from 2 to 11 on the crazy bullshit scale over a period of a couple years, they burned every bridge they possibly could at every opportunity, and people they attacked started fighting back and winning.

[John]

It has long since jumped the shark. What is amazing about stuff like that is that it is indistinguishable from parody. If someone sat down and wrote a parody SJW comic book, it would look just like that. Sadly, I bet it was completely without irony.

[John Titor]

Wait, wasn't Ian Miles Cheong one of the big Gamerghazi people or whatever? Has he, Vader-like, cast Sarkeesian into the Death Star core and redeemed himself?

[Zero Sum Game]

I don't know. The only interactions I have with Twitter are in occasionally reading some of the superb trolling going on there.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

He was, and then he apologized for insulting gamers.

[lafe.long]

White House Cleaners CAN'T WAIT to See Obama Go: "He's a Slob!"

"It was really hard on myself and my team," said White House cleaning manager Maria Hernandez. "Mr. President used to leave rubbish everywhere ? old newspapers, M&M wrappers, you name it."

Antonia Juan-Fernando echoed the same sentiment, saying, "It was terrible. Mr. Obama used to love cookies and the crumbs he would leave, aye yai yai." Juan-Fernando is optimistic that President-elect Donald Trump won't be such a slob.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Hispanics? Doing the jobs no other Americans will do?

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I assume if you follow the link trail to the source, it turns out to be satire/fiction. But fuck it, apparently we live in The Onion world now.

[BestUsedCarSales]

It dies at a website called Ultimate Flash News which gives no further source then itself.

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

aye yai yai

Spell check, aisle 11.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Hillary Clinton will be attending the inauguration along with her husband.

Well, it is Her Turn.

Boom.

[Zero Sum Game]

Will Her entire entourage be in attendance, or just them?

[Austrian Anarchy]

She needs a gentleman to catch her when she gets a case of the vapours, so there has to be at least one more guy with them.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I thought the whole freakout by the Dems was that they were no longer in control of the Death Star.

[DOOMco]

i stumbled on the Freedom Toons youtube page yesterday, and would recommend.

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

Is that the one where any coyote anywhere can buy TNT and rocket-propelled shit from Amazon without a license?

[DOOMco]

the strawman debate and guns

[Sevo]

"Some writers are upset Milo Yiannopolous got a book deal and are helping to get him more publicity."

I don't know this guy's shtick outside of what I infer from reading here, but it turns out he's bringing the act to Cal. The pulling of hair and rending of garments is something to behold!

[Austrian Anarchy]

Some writers are upset Milo Yiannopolous got a book deal and are helping to get him more publicity.

He is awesome, even fabulous, except for his Trump shit.

Mark Zuckerberg wants to visit all 50 states in 2017.

If he takes Obama with him he could see even more states!

[Zero Sum Game]

The state of denial, the state of confusion, the state of frustration... Lots of states yet to visit and Obama's been campaigning hard in all before he's out of office.

[Austrian Anarchy]

Was it 57 total? I forgot.

[Zero Sum Game]

Wait, are we still talking about American states or the number of genders there now are purported to be?

[Austrian Anarchy]

Never forget

[Zero Sum Game]

I haven't forgotten. Playing coy leads to better threads when the subject matter is funny, IMO. 😀

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Taiwanese Animated News latest is about emotional support animals on airplanes.
Because where else can you see Trump scamming the flight with his emotional support chihuahua?

[Austrian Anarchy]

I thought he could take whatever he likes on his own airplane? Has to be true, the progs told me how unfair that was.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

I've no idea why they put Trump in that piece (they made a model for their 'fuck China, Taiwan #1' videos?), but I was delighted to see him pretending to be blind, then groping the stewardess.
You can tell it wasn't supposed to be the US airline, because stewardess was hot.

[Heroic Mulatto]

You can tell it wasn't supposed to be the US airline, because stewardess was hot.

^THIS!^

[Austrian Anarchy]

One of my favorite puff pieces of this century was the one about one Chinese airline (the shitty commie one) teaching the stewardesses martial arts. Great pix.

[Heroic Mulatto]

They have nothing on Cathay Pacific.

[Austrian Anarchy]

Lovely.

[Pan Zagloba "The Stickler"]

Because honesty forces me to admit: This applies to Canadian airlines, as well. Even WestJet, which is HQed in goddamn Alberta, whose women are somehow tailor-made for my appreciation.

[Sevo]

And we in CA have been told many times over the last couple of years that AGW means drought it the new 'normal' in CA, except maybe not:

"MIT scientists: Monster storms will triple in California by 2100"
[...]
"An example of an "extreme storm" is the Dec. 11, 2014, "Pineapple Express" soaker that dumped 3 inches of rain on the Bay Area in one hour, causing flooding, power outages and mudslides.
The scientists published their results in the Journal of Climate. They found that California will experience three times the number of extreme storms by 2100 if ? as expected ? the world's average temperatures are 4 degrees Celsius higher then they are today."
http://www.sfgate.com/science/.....835311.php

From the comments:
"danu Rank 2571
[...]Are we going to have massively increased precipitation, or centuries long droughts?"

"csk Rank 6157
@danu if you understood the dynamics of climate change you would already know the answer...likely both"

AGW is MAGIC! Droughts with major rain-storms! Dogs and cats living together!

[Rich]

And just wait until this shit kicks in, too!

[Sevo]

AWESOME kite weather!

[kbolino]

if you understood the dynamics of climate change you would already know the answer...likely both

deep

[ant1sthenes]

Seems I've often heard that kind of talk before.

[Entropy Drehmaschine Void]

Mark Zuckerberg wants to visit all 50 57 states in 2017.

ftfy

[Austrian Anarchy]

I am amazed that there is anybody who does not know the 57 ref. in 2017. (Scroll up.)

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Heinz!

[Ken Shultz]

"Hillary Clinton will be attending the inauguration along with her husband [partner]."

Obama isn't even out the door yet, and you people are already acting like he was never there!

[Austrian Anarchy]

Is he even showing up for the gig?

[OneOut]

I think he's headed out.

http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2610901/

[Dick N. Bimbose (n?e Cooper)]

Is [partner] code for Huma?

[Rational Exuberance]

I'll wait and see whether Hillary's attendance at the inauguration represents acceptance, or whether she is planning to release her chest buster on live TV, hoping it will rip off Trump's head.

[Rational Exuberance]

I'll wait and see whether Hillary's attendance at the inauguration represents acceptance, or whether she is planning to release her chest buster on live TV, hoping it will rip off Trump's head.

[bossy]

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[Charles Easterly]

Perhaps he might nod if he could hear you..

[Bobarian (Would Chip Her)]

Hello again?

[Rufus The Monocled]

Whatever. I WANT IT.

[GILMORE?]

Did you read that steaming turd of Gary Johnson article Nick dropped yesterday?

That was yesterday.

As i said, "maybe it was something that was missing" today.

[Brett L]

A little bit, sometimes.

[jesse.in.mb]

Doesn't mean we go around committing hate crimes.

[Charles Easterly]

Unexpected was this.

[DOOMco]

thats where you're wrong.