Oregon Charts an Uneven Course Toward Legal Marijuana Sales

Overregulation of the industry keeps business owners in limbo.


The visitor map at the World Famous Cannabis Cafe
Madeline Martinez

Since she first got involved in marijuana activism, Madeline Martinez has wanted to give cannabis consumers a place of their own—somewhere out of the way where they could smoke in peace and security.

Initially she tried to provide this through a series of small and short-lived "cannabis cafés" for Portland-area medical marijuana patients, the first of which was just a rented room in the back of a failing restaurant. When voters approved full-scale legalization in 2014, however—a campaign she was deeply involved in—Martinez saw an opportunity to go big.

In July of the following year, she opened the World Famous Cannabis Café in Southeast Portland. There, marijuana consumers of all stripes could come and—for a $10 daily membership fee—smoke weed, order food, and enjoy a range of pot-themed events, from ganja yoga to twice-weekly sessions of stoner bingo.

Almost immediately her café was a huge hit, quickly living up to its global name. "We had people coming from all over the world, straight from the airport, wheeling their carry-ons into the café," Martinez says. A map on the wall soon became studded with pins marking visitors' countries of origin—places as diverse as Australia and Iran.

And then, almost as quickly as it started, the World Famous Cannabis Café was forced to shut down. In December 2015, Martinez was informed by Multnomah County health officials that on-site cannabis consumption at the café was running afoul of post-legalization changes to Oregon's Indoor Clean Air Act (ICAA), which banned marijuana smoke in public areas and places of employment.

Martinez protested that as a fee-charging private club staffed by volunteers, these rules did not apply to her establishment. County officials, though, acting on regulatory guidance from the Oregon Health Authority (OHA), were unmoved.

Facing massive fines, Martinez had no choice but to close the café down, hosting her last round of bingo on March 7, 2016.

Legalized But Not Normalized

The shuttering of Martinez's World Famous Cannabis Café, sad though it was, was hardly unique. Indeed, her experience is emblematic of the struggle of many cannabusinesses in Oregon's post-prohibition environment. Though their product is now legal, legislators and regulators have continually failed to treat the marijuana industry as normal. Instead, they've busied themselves with erecting an invasive and confusing regulatory structure that has stifled the growth of this infant industry.

It wasn't supposed to be like this. Following the passage of Measure 91, which legalized marijuana for those 21 and over in 2014, voters were promised that the rollout of a legal recreational market in the state would be done quickly, efficiently, and without "excessive regulation."

Measure 91 laid out a very clear path forward to accomplish that end. Recreational marijuana sales were to be legal statewide, localities were forbidden from taxing the stuff, and those that wanted to prohibit new cannabusinesses from opening in their jurisdictions would have to go through the ballot initiative process. Measure 91 also sought to streamline the regulatory burden by vesting rulemaking power in a single agency, the Oregon Liquor Control Commission (OLCC). The OHA was to play merely an advisory role.

Crucially, however, Measure 91 left many of the practicalities of legalization to the State Legislature to determine. In June 2015—just as the World Famous Cannabis Café was getting ready to open its doors—lawmakers passed H.B. 3400, which represented a significant retreat from the liberal initiative passed by voters.

First of Measure 91's provisions to go were the restrictions stopping local governments from re-enacting their own prohibitions. In a major concession to more conservative areas of the state, H.B. 3400 removed the requirement that recalcitrant prohibitionists work through the initiative process to ban cannabusinesses. Instead, it was decided that the recreational marijuana industry could be banned with a simple vote of a county commission or city council, so long as that locality had given Measure 91 less than 45 percent of its vote. About 100 local governments have since chosen to implement recreational bans in one form or another, meaning that for about half the state, prohibition remains very much in effect.

The legislature also chose to repeal the state pre-emption on local taxes on marijuana, instead allowing for a 3 percent levee on recreational sales on top of the 17 percent statewide fee. This November, voters in over 100 Oregon cities voted to impose such taxes. In one case, residents of Canby, Oregon, opted to both ban and tax recreational pot sales.

The patchwork of local rules and restrictions enabled by H.B. 3400 was then mirrored in the bill's approach to statewide regulation. Under the bill, the OHA, the Oregon Occupational Safety and Health Administration, and the Oregon Department of Agriculture—which were supposed to have merely advisory roles—were all given significant regulatory powers in their own right.

This has led to "too many hands in the pot," says Amy Margolis, executive director of the Oregon Cannabis Association. Marijuana businesses face an almost impossible obstacle in the need to comply with rules from so many different agencies—rules, she says, that are often contradictory and poorly understood by the very regulators tasked with enforcing them.

Nowhere has this been more evident than in the ongoing debacle over marijuana product testing. According to H.B. 3400, all cannabusinesses are required to have their products tested for mold, mildew, potency, and pesticides. The bill tasked the OLCC and the OHA with determining the specifics of these tests, and also required that the OHA accredit the labs that would end up conducting them.

What the two agencies produced in the way of testing guidelines proved incredibly onerous. Businesses were required to have samples from every 10-pound batch of their product tested for 60 different pesticides. This substantially raises the cost of compliance, says Trista Okel, owner of the marijuana extract company Empower Oil.

Thanks to the new rules, Okel has seen her bill for pesticide testing—something the company was already doing prior to the bill's passage—go up by $2,100 per test. A similar increase was reported by Burl Bryson of the edible company LunchBox Alchemy, who says the rule change has cost his business tens of thousands of dollars.

The cumbersome testing requirements also greatly outstripped OHA's capacity to accredit the necessary number of labs and train lab technicians in the new regulatory requirements. Two weeks after the rules went into effect, OHA's Environmental Laboratory Accreditation Program had approved a total of just four labs to test pesticides—nowhere near enough to meet industry demand.

The predictable result has been a major and ongoing bottleneck.

Okel says she was forced to shut down her operations for over a month for want of the OHA-approved marijuana her company needs to make its extracts. Bryson had to lay off 18 people due to an inability to get his edibles tested. Many more businesses are still sitting idle in the hope of more reasonable rules from the OLCC, and Okel and Bryson speculate that some of them will never reopen.

More Regulations Coming

Bad as this bottleneck is, things could be about to get even worse. Right now, Margolis notes, the recreational market is served by medical marijuana producers and retailers who, under temporary OLCC rules, are allowed to "sell forward" into the recreational market. This will come to an end on January 1, 2017, when new permanent rules say that only those businesses specifically licensed for the recreational market will be able to participate.

Applications for these licenses have been flooding into the OLCC, but of the nearly 1,700 requests that have been filed, only about 400 have been fully approved. Three-quarters of these are for marijuana growers, while only 90 wholesalers, processors, and retailers have received licenses from the state.

Despite the lack of progress, the OLCC and OHA have stood behind their regulatory approach. In a press release put out on September 30, the Liquor Commission acknowledged that its self-described "groundbreaking effort" at regulating the industry was still in a "developmental" stage, but claimed the regulations had been written in close consultation with the weed industry and were part of a "comprehensive effort to protect consumers."

The press release also announced that some 20 marijuana strain names—including Jedi Kush and Smurf Pussy—were being prohibited because of their potential appeal to children.

Mark Pettinger of the OLCC says that his agency has worked hard to adapt to the needs of cannabusinesses as it crafts rules to govern the industry. The licensing system has been altered, for example.

When it comes to complaints about the pesticide testing requirements, Pettinger says his agency relies heavily on scientific guidance from the OHA to determine what safety standards are appropriate, but promises the commission is "trying to be flexible within the parameters we are given from other agencies."

Despite their frustrations, many advocates and business owners are also hopeful they'll be able to work with the commission to fix some of the regulatory problems. Anthony Johnson, chief petitioner for Measure 91 and a member of the OLCC Rules Advisory Committee, says that whatever difficulties cannabusinesses have encountered, he believes regulators at the Liquor Commission "really want the system to work and they are relatively willing to adapt and adjust as needed."

Bryson likewise expressed the view that many of the disputes his business has had with the OLCC are mostly the result of "growing pains" that will be ironed out over time.

The industry seems far less optimistic about its dealings with the OHA, which Johnson says has "never been as willing to adapt to the needs of the cannabis community." He points to the dismissive attitude that agency has long taken towards its own medical marijuana program, choosing not to promote it and even arguing against expanding it to patients suffering from post-traumatic stress disorder. This hostility to the drug has, he says, biased its regulatory approach to the new recreational market.

Johnathan Modie, media contact for the OHA, did not return requests for comment.

This is all, of course, bad news for Martinez, who is seeking regulatory relief from the OHA in the form of a special carveout to the ICAA for her business. As she points out, the law already contains exceptions for the state's cigar stores and hookah bars. That her marijuana café is not accorded the same level of protection clearly rankles her. "If someone chooses to use a hookah, or a cigar, please, by all means," she says. "But don't come looking for me when you are telling these people it's OK to use a toxic substance, and yet my rights are being trampled."

Martinez vows to keep fighting for the normalization of cannabis consumption. In the new post-legalization world, she says, marijuana users should no longer have to stand for their continued exclusion from normal life. "We're not lepers," she says. "We refuse to be now."

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  1. And add to their woes that Trump will be sending in the military to stamp out this marijuana demon once and for all.

    1. The paper is reporting that local yokel, Chief of Police Nick Willard, is being tapped for a post in the Trump regime. Willard is a hyper-hawkish drug warrior who believes:

      “We need a government that is willing to extend itself past the border into Mexico, find those clandestine labs and eradicate them,” Willard summed up. “It is going to take leadership at the very, very top in the United States and right now there is just not the thirst for that.”

      Because DEA boots on the ground in Afghanistan have been so successful at eradicating heroin.

      1. Trump must be letting Pence run things. Either that or Priebus and Bannon are both major dickface neocons and socons all rolled into one. This entire thing is going in a very bad direction already and we’re just getting started. What’s next, Trump tags Bolton for SOS?

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    2. And add to their woes that Trump will be sending in the military to stamp out this marijuana demon once and for all.


      1. Clinton would have. Johnson is too silly to not be better.

    3. I have supported legalization my entire life. Grew my first plants before I was old enough to drive.

      With that said, some of the people getting rich off this “green rush” are genuine assholes. As someone who still enjoys the occasional puff, it would nevertheless be difficult not to enjoy seeing some of these overfed, underworked, bud-smoking slackers get a taste of reality.

      It would go a long way toward changing my opinion if any of these places seemed geared toward adults. I would love to see a quiet, austere shop on the order of an Irish pub. Then paying $15/gram might not seem like such a slap in the face.

      Instead most of these places look more like some kind of fucked-up cross between a porn shop, a candy store, and one of those places at the mall that sells knives and tasers.

      And don’t even get me started on these ridiculous strain names like “blueberry bubble-yum” and “o.g. alien soda pop #17”

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  2. Meanwhile, over at CNN the machinery of hate marches on.

    They list all of the horrifying incidents of racial hatred that have occurred since Trump got elected. In support of this they cite the 2015 figures that show an increase over 2014 in some categories.

    Their list is populated with incidents that have been reported as hoaxes here, and lots and lots of obviously anti-trump vandalism (in the form of “Heil Trump” and “Trump” spelled with a swastika, etc.) counted as “White Nationalist Racism let loose”.

    It doesn’t take a genius to know that changing “Make America Great Again” to “Make America White Again” with a swastika isn’t the work of some big Trump supporter. Nobody says “Yeay!! Our guy is Hitler!!” Not even white nationalists.
    So what is going on at CNN? There is no way they couldn’t find the articles about the police determining some of those to be hoaxes. Heck, just searching the names should pull up Reason’s coverage.

    And zero people are really stupid enough to believe that Trump supporters are running around spray painting “Heil Trump” on the side of buildings. That’s an anti-Trump slogan.

    Heck, even their headliner case – a woman who’s car window was smashed and her purse stolen. She says a hate note regarding her headscarf was left. That should raise at least some suspicion. What thief leaves a note? And what hate crime guy steals a purse?

    1. “Heck, even their headliner case – a woman who’s car window was smashed and her purse stolen. She says a hate note regarding her headscarf was left. That should raise at least some suspicion. What thief leaves a note? And what hate crime guy steals a purse?”

      Variations on that bullshit story are springing up all over the country.

      1. What thief leaves a note?

        The SJW kind?

      2. But since when do people from Middle-Eastern cultures frequently lie to make themselves seem like victims? I’ve never noticed any such tendency before.

        1. That entire video was one giant ‘Fuck You’ to photosensitive epilepsy.

          1. Yet people pack into tiny seats in a smokey room to funnel money into that machine to see just that.

              1. The Japanese are a very strange people.

    2. At least they do include the video of the assault on the “Trump voter” guy. But they downplay it as an aside, nothing of concern. While spray paint of anti-Trump messages is horrifying to all minorities and totally all Trump’s fault.

      The Clinton machine is back in operation and going full tilt. There is no way in the world that these people truly believe the nonsense they are spewing.

      This pre-election video captures exactly who we are dealing with in the “spontaneous protests”.

      And lest anyone forget, I’m still the guy who is certain that nobody is going to vote for Trump. I don’t support him in any way. But I like my country to have an independent 4th estate, not a propaganda machine for one political party.

      1. Physical attacks on Trump voters are protected by the first amendment. Because these hired protesters are not all that articulate, they have no other choice in expressing their opinions. Duh, you vote Trump! Get em!

      2. Plus, these assholes really seem to want to get someone hurt. They keep pimping the “all white people are violent, hateful racists who have been unmasked by Trump” narrative and a lot of people are going to buy in to it. And then people start getting attacked, like we saw in that traffic incident.

        This path leads to no where good. And they should damn well be ashamed of themselves.

        1. What they want is for a white concealed carry holder to shoot one of the imbeciles. Then the riots, then Obama declares martial law and protects us from the coming dictator so he can be the coming dictator instead.

          /not all sarcasm

        2. Welcome to the predicted shit-show.

      3. That video of the guy getting beat by the junglebunnies seriously made me want to throw on a storm-trooper uniform and start building walls around American ghettos for some mild ethnic cleansing.

        It’s better for me not to watch that stuff.

        1. junglebunnies

          Why do black people, when misbehaving, become “junglebunnies”? Probably because you’re not an actual racist, right?

          1. Okay from now on I won’t use that term to describe pickaninnies.

    3. I dont think I’ve seen a legitimate one of these”hate crime” stories in over 5 years. They always always turn out to be false flags.

      1. Maybe if the left would quit making up shit then a real incident would happen. BTW, where are the scary clowns? Starting to look like the media made that up also.

        1. where are the scary clowns?

          We are all right here at H&R, of course.

  3. So who is going to be the “diversity” picks in the new cabinent. Surprised we already haven’t heard bitching about the old white guys picks.

    1. Nikki Haley seems obvious if she wants a job.

        1. Yes, because that’s all that matters. If Trump puts in a black female who does exactly the same thing that a white male counterpart would do, then it’s ok. Oh, as long as the black female has a D by her name.

          1. Would be kind of funny if he stuck with all old white guys. The Crying Game Part 2.

            1. The unfunny part being that all of the old white guys are neocons and socons. Trump has no fucking idea what he’s doing and the guys he’s letting run the shop are insane. I was hoping that Thiel being close to Trump would make him more tolerable, but it looks like that’s out the window already.

              So we get 4 years of the neocons and drug warriors making a comeback, then we get another far leftist in charge of the Whitehouse. Great stuff. Just imagine the worst scenario possible and then give up all hopes of it actually not being worse than that.

              1. I 100% concur. Thing is the the neocons just don’t care who they attach themselves to as long as they have influence. They saw the opportunity to weasel in and they’re taking it. The drug warrior picks just completely fly in the face of reality. So we’ll make the war south of the border bloodier and we’ll stem the tide of immigrants trying to escape it at the the same time. Brilliant plan. Fucking retards.

    2. Female neocons are almost as rare as female libertarians. Looks like Trump will need to give Hillary her old job back.

      1. She would fit right in. Could put Ayaan Hirsi Ali in charge of screening Muslims. No men would get through. Lol.

      2. Ann Coulter obvious choice to build wall. Michelle Malkin would run the internment camps.

        1. I guess that gives Sessions time to round up the potheads. Palin on the camp wall to snipe the attempted escapees?

          1. Well, she’s certainly a dick.

    3. Sowell as Fed Chair and Williams in charge of Welfare Reform.

      1. Those would actually be exceptional choices

      2. I am with you bruddah, but it will never happen. 🙁

  4. Dick move by school counselor.


  5. Here, let me have that; I’ll test it for you.

    1. A Galion teenager says he’s still trying to getting over a school fight

      Moments later, the two were in a heated exchange

      A heated exchange is what passes for a fight nowadays?

      And I guess this passes for news, too.

  6. Wow, this article reads like a complaint. All of this shit is exactly what Reason was asking for when they went the legalize through licensing (which is not legalizing at all) route.



    I thought the Ku Klux Klan “was O.K. until I found out they smoked pot.”

    —-Jeff Sessions


    Jeff Sessions will now be in charge of the DEA.

    The only thing protecting Oregon’s marijuana industry from the DEA now is an executive order level directive from Barack Obama stating that they shouldn’t raid medical marijuana clinics so long as they’re complying with state law and local ordinances. That can go away with a stroke of Trump’s pen.

    Before that directive, during Obama’s first term, the Obama administration conducted 270 raids on medical marijuana dispensaries that were legal under state law–and there is no reason to think that a Sessions DEA will be better than that.

    1. IIRC, he said that while he was prosecuting one of them right into the death penalty.

      1. Ken knows it was dark humor. But he heard it offered as a straight statement on NPR, so he’s trying to repeat the meme, hoping to fool a few rubes.

        1. No, I know Sessions said he was joking.

          But if it was funny, it was funny because it was true.

          I grew up with good ol’ boys from wayback, and the punchline is that Sessions thinks marijuana is worse than anything else.

          He wasn’t endorsing the Klan. He was saying that however opposed you are to the Klan, he’s even more opposed to marijuana than that.

          If you can’t see why that’s alarming to someone who’s against the drug war, then you’re being willfully blind.

  8. I keep seeing stories about how the schoolyard bully is taking the dispensaries’ lunch money; meanwhile, a Terminator model Sessions T-888 is locked onto them as his primary target.

    Run! Hide!

    You fools in Oregon went so Democrat that neither Trump nor the Republicans have any fear of losing any electoral votes or Senate seats for pissing off Oregon.

    Sessions might raid the growers and retailers of Oregon just for his own personal amusement!

    He might piss off the voters in California, Washington State, and Massachusetts with raids, too, but so what? Torturing progressives and making them cry wins you votes these days. They accused Trump of being a racist, a misogynist, a homophobe, a rapist, a xenophobe, etc. Do you really think Trump’s afraid that the people of Oregon might accuse him of being against marijuana?!

    1. Going after people’s legal weed is the sort of overreach that can make you a one term president. I’m guessing a bunch of the 60 million people who voted for Trump get baked regularly.

      Dunno if Trump can figure that out in under 4 years. Took Obama a long while, and he was a stoner growing up.

      1. Oh, and the people in states near the ones that legalized are relying on them for cheap weed to smuggle home. Wanna piss those voters off, too?

        1. Proposition 64 passed 56/46–in California.

          In Nevada, Question 2 passed 54/45.

          It wasn’t exactly unanimous even in the states where it passed. Other states where it was rejected like Arizona, no, I don’t think they’re likely to go against Trump because he raids marijuana retailers in California.

          I’d love to believe that Sessions or Trump care so much about federalism and marijuana that they’ll leave recreational marijuana retailers alone in states that voted against Trump–and are extremely unlikely to vote for him in the future.

          But as near and dear as ending the drug war is to our hearts, I’m not sure the Trump administration gives a shit about our favorite issues. And I know that Sessions would strangle legalization in the cradle if he could. The only reason he won’t is because Trump stops him, and I haven’t seen any indication that Trump cares that much about the issue.

          Trump’s concern isn’t about states that border California or Massachusetts.

          Trump’s concern is with Ohio, Michigan, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin.

          1. Swing states within easy driving distance of a state with legalized weed:

            Arizona, PA, NH

            Make it within one days long drive for a smuggler, and it’s pretty much every swing state but WI, FL, and GA.

            1. I hope you’re right, and that’s the logic the Trump administration will use.

              But I don’t think Arizona’s Trump voters voted for him because of his stance on marijuana (whatever it is). And I don’t think people who voted against Trump did it because of marijuana either–a lot of that was about immigration.

              I just don’t see a Trump voter changing his mind and voting Democrat next time because marijuana.

              And the DEA doesn’t have to go after states outside of places like Oregon. They just make an example out of somebody in Oregon or California, and there will be a massive chilling effect.

              1. So let’s say the feds shut the openly operating cannabusinesses down. Think any of the states will then go all the way & simply repeal all statutes dealing specifically w cannabis? So there are no more licensees to go after, it’s still underground, but there are no cops enforcing it but the few the feds can spare?

          2. Obama didn’t care to stop Holder. I could see Trump stopping Sessions if Trump gets a bug up his ass to revert loudly to the position he had for decades about recreational drugs. I could even see Sessions licking Trump’s boots while federally down-scheduling all narcotics to the minimum controls imposed internationally, or even ignoring the treaties entirely, because the USA can. Still won’t affect the states, though, where most of the real action is; even in the absence of federal narcotics laws, I don’t see any of the states about to decontrol any of them other than cannabis & possibly some obscure ones.

          3. Proposition 64 passed 56/46–in California.

            It’s almost like there is a third of the state where weed growing is a major business, and the growers know that legalization will mess with their margins…

            1. Not really true. The black market is doing better than ever here in Oregon. Here’s why. The garbage at the pot stores, are over taxed, dried out, improperly cured, tasteless, garbage. Anyone can grow their own in OR, and that is actually how the black market is booming. You want a flavourful, cured properly, tax-free smoke? The black market is where it’s at. Plus the black market isn’t some shady dealer any more. It’s your neighbour, friend, brother, cousin, uncle, now.

      2. Going after people’s legal weed is insane and yes would make Trump a one term president. It’s not only left coasters it will piss off, around 60% of the entire country approve of legal weed and it will make the entire nation sour on Trump pretty quickly. Also, the cat cannot be put back in the bag, drug warriors have lost and making one last stand is not going to get them anywhere, it’s just going to make the GOP less popular. IOW, Stupid Party is back.

        1. This sort of nonsense is too stupid to even pass as fear mongering.

          Trump is not coming for anyone’s weed.

          And a reminder that Operation Chokepoint was an Obama thing. Same guy who could have had Marijuana descheduled but never did.

          1. I guess we should just rest on the hope that Trump will be even more pro-weed than Obama was–even after Obama raided state-legal medical marijuana clinics hundreds of times?

            And we should ignore the fact that the new Attorney General is about the single most pro-drug war politician in all of the federal government, too?

            “Sessions is against legalizing cannabis for either recreational or medicinal use. “I’m a big fan of the DEA”, he said during a hearing with the Senate Judiciary Committee.[73] Sessions was “heartbroken” and found “it beyond comprehension” when President Obama claimed that cannabis is not as dangerous as alcohol.[74]”


            Never mind that the new Attorney General wants to strangle legal marijuana in the cradle.

            Never mind that the Supreme Court ruled in Gonzales v. Raich that federal law on marijuana supersedes state law because “commerce”.

            Never mind that there is no federal law protecting marijuana retailers from federal prosecution.

            There’s nothing to worry about because although Trump (to my knowledge) hasn’t said he would respect state laws on marijuana, we know that he’ll overrule his Attorney General . . . because what?

            “And a reminder that Operation Chokepoint was an Obama thing. Same guy who could have had Marijuana descheduled but never did.”

            You think that because Obama and Hillary Clinton were both duplicitous sacks of shit, that means Sessions won’t come after legal marijuana?

            That’s stupid.

      3. The question is, how many people who’d otherwise vote for Trump would vote against him if his admin. came down hard on pot? It’s never about how you feel about the issue, given that choice in isol’n; it’s about how it affects your vote for or against a candidate. Is it enough of a priority over other issues to change that?

        I honestly don’t think his admin. is going to be remarkably more anti-cannabis than the run of the mill so far, but if it is, it might not affect his re-election much. Of course you never know what’s going to be the big issue in a campaign.

  9. It’s easy too entrenched here in Colorado. Plus, it keeps the anti-Trump people from rioting.

    1. It’s easy too entrenched here in Colorado.

      I’d like to believe that, but I’m not sure Trump/Sessions will care about anything as antiquated as the notion of the will of the people. We have laws, by god! You don’t have to like them, but you will obey!

      This has the potential to go badly.

        1. But your deep, deep concern is noted.

    2. Marijuana has been too entrenched in Colorado since the 1970s.

      They’ve been throw people who look like John Denver in jail for it all this time anyway.

      Think about that. People who look like John Denver. Not the nasty hippies, the nice ones. The hippies that make great summer camp counselors and kindergarten teachers. Just threw their asses in jail.

      Like kicking a puppy over and over and over and over again–since the early 1970s.

      Jeff Sessions doesn’t care how entrenched your hippies are. He’s from Alabama.

  10. Anyone who thought marijuana legalization in Oregon would be no, or even few strings attached was either ignorant or delusional.

    Progs are gonna prog.

    1. If they scroll down this far, you got your message to almost the entire universe of the ignorant you speak of.

  11. RE: Oregon Charts an Uneven Course Toward Legal Marijuana Sales
    Overregulation of the industry keeps business owners in limbo.

    Welcome to regulation hell, pot growers!
    It wouldn’t be fascist state if we didn’t regulate small companies out of business.

  12. Personally I love paying $15/gram to some kid who wasn’t even born when I grew my first buds. It’s been great watching all the people plugged into the good ol’ boy/humboldt hippie mafia get filthy rich. I totally hope Jeff Sessions doesn’t take every single dollar they’ve made and/or throw their asses in prison. Then they’d have to learn to be raging alcoholics and sloppy drunks like the rest of us Oregon trailer trash.

    1. Ha!

      Legalization will mean that you can grow at home if you can get the seed.

      Sessions can’t raid every eighth house in California.

      Scotts Miracle Grow (SMG) apparently was spiking after legalization, and they’re getting into the hydroponics market.


      1. I’m still grudgingly for legalization. But so far it seems to be exchanging one major unjust law for a massive clusterfuck of trivial injustices and corruption. It has opened my eyes to how naive I was, back when legalizing weed was my own pet issue. I actually considered it a matter of right and wrong, once upon a time. But there is no justice from Caesar’s pen.

        You have to own your own property to grow your own plants, and the fact is that anyone with half a brain could always grow enough for personal use if they owned a house and land, even if it was technically illegal. I have never been smart enough to join the landed gentry.

        I will admit it’s nice to have easy access to concentrates and edibles. That is a huge welcome change.

        1. Sometimes, to get something good done, you need to go through some unpleasantness.

          A wise man doesn’t suffer a toothache just because having it pulled out is painful.

          If we were going to get rid of the drug war, we were always going to be in for some unpleasantness.

          And while there may be some ugly scenery on the way to promised land, I still think the journey is going to be worth it.

          1. Look pal, I’m about had it up to here with your common sense and rational perspective shtick. If you can’t provoke me into more unhinged emoting with a dumb opinion or a smartass remark then what use are you to me?

            I need a muse for my rambling, Ken. Say something stupid!

  13. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….


  14. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….


  15. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….


    1. How do you grow weed with a computer?

  16. In Massachusetts, central committee will tax and regulate a plant but with many delays, provisions, and tax hikes so you will be safe from harm and your pockets with less cash.

    Mass. official wants to extend the deadline to open pot shops

    Just a day after voters legalized marijuana for recreational use, Massachusetts’ top regulator called on the Legislature to extend the deadline for opening retail shops beyond the January 2018 target date so she has time to build an effective oversight force.

    Treasurer Deborah B. Goldberg also said Wednesday lawmakers should hike the 3.75 percent tax on marijuana sales included in the new law so there will be enough money to police the industry and have some cash left over. And Goldberg wants legislators to ax a provision allowing people to grow up to 12 marijuana plants per household, which she believes could gut the retail market and be detrimental to public health and safety.


    1. Goldberg said people don’t think about how difficult it will be to create a seed-to-sale tracking system that will allow regulators to follow each marijuana plant for the duration of its life. Such a system would be aimed at preventing diversion to the black market.

      “To get an IT project up and running and faultless without going thorough a pilot, and testing it, and doing the like,” she said, trailing off and shaking her head.

      And she underscored what it will take to create a state agency with lawyers, investigators, accountants, computer specialists, and support staff.

      If she can’t do her job, she should resign so that it can be filled by someone who can do it.

      The government works for the people, not the other way around.

    2. “I think that if you are concerned about revenues ? which I think the treasurer should be ? I see home-grown [marijuana] as a way around actually even creating revenues. So, yes, I would push for home-grown to be eliminated,” she said.

      OMG somebody might do something without paying the government for the privilege! We must put a stop to it!

  17. BATFE just updated form 4473 to clarify that marijuana is still illegal at the federal level and its use precludes you from purchasing or owning a firearm.

  18. “he believes regulators at the Liquor Commission “really want the system to work and they are relatively willing to adapt and adjust as needed.”

    Yeah it Effin sounds like it, what a bunch of bureaucratic Shitbags.

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  19. Oregon does a great job of living up to its reputation as a rainy communist shithole.

  20. until I looked at the paycheck saying $4730 , I did not believe that…my… brother woz like actualy bringing in money part time from there computar. . there friend brother started doing this for less than 7 months and resently paid for the morgage on there home and bought a new Cadillac …….


  21. Government is not the solution to our problem; government is the problem.

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