Donald Trump

What Trump's Win Means for Food and Agricultural Policy

Should we expect a scaling back of regulations or even repeals?

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Donald Trump
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The looming presidency of Donald Trump has left many (perhaps most) Americans uncertain of what the future might hold. On my beat—food and agricultural law—that future is no clearer.

Eight years of food and agricultural policy under President Barack Obama was mostly chaff. First Lady Michelle Obama planted an organic garden on the White House grounds and sought to work with the food industry to reduce calories, reformulate foods, and promote exercise in an unsuccessful attempt to reduce obesity rates in this country. Obama's activist FDA banned trans fats, pushed for "added sugar" labeling on packaged foods, and adopted sweeping new food safety regulations under the Food Safety Modernization Act. The Affordable Care Act, Obama's signature legislation, contains requirements for nationwide calorie labeling on many restaurant menus.

Farm subsidies administered by the USDA ballooned to unprecedented levels during the Obama administration. The USDA co-published controversial new dietary guidelines. And the First Lady championed changes to the USDA National School Lunch Program that mandated the serving of more whole grains, fruits, and vegetables.

Save for the first lady's White House garden, I've been mostly critical of these actions.

Given Trump's putative status as the anti-Obama, how might a Trump administration differ from his predecessor when it comes to food and agricultural policy? We've gotten an early glimpse.

And so far, supporters of stricter regulations appear alarmed.

A set of Trump food and agriculture talking points obtained by Politico suggests "a shift back to conventional agriculture, to promises for the Trump White House to be an 'active participant' in writing the next Farm Bill, to fighting the so-called good food movement and undoing Obama-era agricultural and environmental policies."

As the Washington Examiner's Paul Bedard noted this week, a recent report by the American Action Forum suggests the Trump administration could cut a recent slew of regulations that would cost more than $40 billion under a law known as the Congressional Review Act. According to the AAF list, many recent food and agricultural rules—several billion dollars' worth—could be repealed as early as January.

The Trump administration also appears likely to roll back Michelle Obama's school lunch reforms. That sounds promising. But, as I detail in my book, Biting the Hands that Feed Us, any reversal of course that simply returns the failing program to the flailing program it was five or ten years ago is untenable.

Trump's stance on immigration—not just a human rights issue but also a key food and agricultural issue, as many of the people who grow, pick, cook, and buy our food are immigrants—is frighteningly bad. Ditto his position on (or, rather, against) free trade.

Outside of specific laws and regulations the administration might embrace, some other indicators have emerged recently. For example, Quartz reports the Trump transition team is being headed by a veteran food lobbyist. And while the lists of potential cabinet heads of the USDA and HHS (which houses the FDA) are still reasonably long, they're not terribly inspiring.

So food and agricultural policy will likely look very different under Trump than it's looked under Obama, who, in the words of one Associated Press writer this week, "made healthier, safer and better labeled food a priority[.]"

That characterization is, in my view, quite a reach.

The Obama administration made regulating food a priority. But many of its regulations don't appear to have made us healthier, or our food safer or better labeled.

Even Obama supporters found his administration's stance on food to be "more symbolic than substantive."

Maybe that's also what we should hope for under Trump. I'll stomach Trump's cruel symbolism on immigration and trade over any substantive action by him that reflects his views in these areas. And if the Trump administration reins in the FDA and slashes farm subsidies—neither a sure bet, but essential starting points—then he may not be as bad as I and millions of other people living in America fear.

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  2. Should we expect a scaling back of regulations or even repeals?

    ROFL!

    Expect the exact same Democrat policies as if one of the other two top Democrats won. Hell, Gary Johnson would license and tax it like marriage or pot.

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  3. Make American Food Great Again!

    (Where will poor Baylen be when the wall stops him from getting his Argentine Malbecs, Aussie Shirazes, or German Rieslings?)

    1. Of the top 10 export markets for California wines, the European Union’s 28-member countries were the largest, accounting for $622 million, followed by Canada, $461 million; Hong Kong, $97 million; Japan, $96 million; China, $56 million; Nigeria, $29 million; Mexico, $26 million; South Korea, $23 million; Switzerland,

      So maybe we won’t exactly go protectionist on the wine market.

      1. Doesn’t sound like it needs protecting.

          1. *dumps spanish wine in gutter*

            1. Expect a fine from the EU for taking a French Union job.

    2. You can take my Bordeaux from my drunk dead hands!

        1. You really want to summon citizen X, don’t you?

          1. Because I don’t want to take your wine?

            1. I thought you were making something else you don’t like known. If you were espousing your opposition to thievery, I apologize.

              1. You and your wine looked happy. I wouldn’t want to ruin that.

      1. You can take my Bordeaux from my drunk dead hands!

        I’d be doing you a favor. It long ago ceased to be great wine. Thank you, Michel Rolland.

  4. On the school lunch front, I can personally attest to the effects of the new mandates. I volunteer at the kids’ elementary school from time to time, and the last time I was there they had a version of a McRib sandwich.

    Except they used a whole wheat bun. So it was grainy and kinda tough, instead of soft and delicious. And the mystery meat that you expect was there – of lower size and quality than McD’s as expected – but they have to keep the calorie count under control, so instead of drowning the mystery meat in barbeque sauce they “infused” it with barbeque flavor. In other words, a dry piece of mystery meat on a dry whole wheat bun.

    I was the only person in the room to actual eat one. The rest went straight to the garbage.

    They also offered a “healthy salad” option. The salad was about 1/4 of the house salad you’d get before your meal at a restaurant. And it came with vanilla yogurt and a granola mix that had little dried mini-marshmallows. Several kids took that option and only ate the mini-marshmallows.

    In all, I’d say less than 5 percent of the already tiny portions were eaten. Well, that’s one way to fight childhood obesity. Of course, now they are just going to go home and get a bunch of high-calorie crap for a snack right after school, since they are half-starved.

    1. “healthy salad”????

      A real salad is already healthy!

      1. A real salad is never healthy.

        What with the cured meats and cheeses, the olive oil (or sometimes blue cheese dressing). A *proper* salad will get you fatter than Michael Moore. A ‘healthy’ one is just a handful of raw vegetables.

        1. Not seeing anything in what you listed as a problem. Now a pile of dried fruits, burnt bread, sugary dressings, those could be problems.

      2. An imaginary salad is even healthier.

    2. Teach children how to cook in schools.

      1. Some girl called in to a radio show to complain about teaching useful skills in school because it made people less likely to pursue other intellectual things like voting for democrats.

        1. And it costs jobs! Migrant jobs!

        2. No fucking way! Although, she does have a point. If people are self reliant, why would they vote for leviathan?

          1. This same girl also said she almost broke up with her boyfriend over the election. His family owns some coal mines and apparently did mot appreciate what Hilary had to say about them.

            1. Good riddance. How are any of these harpies in a relationship? My wife and I don’t see eye to eye on politics, so we don’t talk about it. Easy peasy.

              1. It is really a strange day when Florida Man and Florida Woman are the voices of reason.

                1. My wife is from California, so I guess that’s even weirder.
                  “Florida Man, California Women make sense. Apocalypse nears!”

                  1. “What did you mean ‘women’?” -California Woman

            2. But only almost. Because, you know, his family owns some coal mines.

              1. And they own some orphans too.

      2. Teach children how to cook in schools.

        Fuck no! That’s like teaching children religion in public schools.

        I don’t want my daughter coming home thinking that beans belong in chili, blue cheese is something more than spoiled milk, or hotdish is somehow edible.

        1. Beanless chili is called soup you neabderhal

          1. Only if you don’t know how to thicken it correctly.

            1. With Okra. That’s how you thicken it.

        2. There is a dish called chili con carne, or chili with meat. There is no dish called chili con frijoles, because the frijoles are assumed to already be in it, because, you know, that’s what chili is.

          1. Uh. No. Until recently chili rules for the Texas Chili Championship specified no tomatoes and no beans. There’s no dish called chili con frijoles because you don’t put beans in real chili.

        3. Imagine the horror here. My kids would be taught that deep dish is pizza and that ranch sauce is edible.

    3. Ah, yes. Nobody is more eager to absorb useful information than a hungry, sullen, disgruntled child.

  5. “a shift back to conventional agriculture, to promises for the Trump White House to be an ‘active participant’ in writing the next Farm Bill, to fighting the so-called good food movement and undoing Obama-era agricultural and environmental policies.”

    What? Unacceptable. Can we get a Suderman or a Chapman or a Dalmia in here to shriek about Trump being the devil?

    1. Yeah, accept ‘conventional agriculture’ means nothing more than ‘change the subsidies back because I can’t make money from them anymore’.

  6. Everybody is freaking about his appointment to AG. Like every president ever doesn’t just appoint the most the statist asshole ever to be AG. Did we expect him to appoint Tommy Chong as head of the DEA?

    1. “appoint Tommy Chong as head of the DEA?”

      I like the sound of that.

      1. Cheech and Chong in “Fed Dreams”

    2. The real Tommy Chong would be great. The character he plays would be a terror.

      1. “Oh, sorry, boss, the evidence got ‘misplaced’ again.”

  7. “the Trump administration could cut a recent slew of regulations that would cost more than $40 billion under a law known as the Congressional Review Act. According to the AAF list, many recent food and agricultural rules?several billion dollars’ worth?could be repealed as early as January.”

    This makes no sense. It is a word salad. You cant just toss ‘will cost xyz’ into any sentence and make it true. WTF?

    “any reversal of course that simply returns the failing program to the flailing program it was five or ten years ago is untenable.”

    Getting rid of something that doesnt work and replacing it with something that struggled to work is untenable how? Maybe leave it to states and localities?

    I just have one question: are we going to send SWAT teams after Amish dairies? No? Then fuck off.

    1. I think you misread it. What I gathered is that Trump could immmediately cut regulations that estimates have pegged at costing $40B. Or that are already costing $40B because they are enforced by the current admin (after being installed by executive order since Congress has largely abdicated its responsibility to pass legislation and let’s the executive seesntially make laws through the regulatory apparatus) but can be removed without congressional action required.

      1. I thought so too at first. Maybe that is the case but it doesnt read that way.

        ‘could cut a slew of regulations that would cost’ not ‘cut regulations that cost us’

        1. I’m pretty sure his intent is to highlight that Trump could cut things that are expected to cost $40B if implemented. Perhaps O just implemented the regs and they haven’t taken effect yet. Furthermore, the only regs Trump could cut are ones the current admin put in place.

          Either way, I think the statement was one of optimism and was referencing bad policies Trump might possibly unwind. Reread it with a less skeptical eye (don’t associate the writer with pants-shitting like you would Chapman or Dalmia) and I suspect your conclusions will change.

          1. It’s almost impossible for me to read anything around here without associating it with pants shitting anymore.

            Perhaps you are right. ‘Could cut things that are expected to cost’ makes perfect sense, he should have written it that way.

    2. I just have one question: are we going to send SWAT teams after Amish dairies? No? Then fuck off

      I’m no Amish. However. I raise chickens in my back yard without a license. I currently have 26 cinnamon queens who are yielding 18 to 20 eggs per day. My family and I eat a lot of them, but not all. The excess I happily sell to my neighbors (without reporting to the IRS) for $3 per dozen, as long as they bring their own carton. I have been doing this a long time. I figure one of these days I will piss off a neighbor and there will be a swat raid executed against my farm.

      1. I currently have 26 cinnamon queens who are yielding 18 to 20 eggs per day.

        SIV would.

        1. He wouldn’t. I’m damn proud of my chickens, but not as proud as Wilson. Wilson is my rooster and he is jealous motherfucker.

      2. You need to get rid of a dozen of those chickens and replace them with Muscovy ducks. They’re super quiet and their eggs are incredibly delicious. They will keep your back yard nearly bug free and they’re fun.

        Trust me. Even though one attacked me once, I still love the bastards.

        1. I’ll look into that. You reckon they would cohabitate with chickens.

          1. Oh hell yeah. They do very well together. Mine never clashed once. And we had at least 50 hens and four roosters with two dozen ducks (mostly Muscovy but a few mallards as well). Plus we had a few guineafowl for laughs but they got spooked by wild dogs and took off. They’re fun too but I don’t think they’ll do well in a more confined environment.

            1. Needless to say, we never once ran low on eggs, meat birds or the joy associated with the whole project. And we had some good barter for the neighbors.

          2. Just don’t add turkeys. I had a turkey hen kill my dominicker rooster and Peking duck.

        2. Stepping in Muscovy Duckshit is not fun.

          And that is all those fuckers do: eat and shit.

          My grandmother had a flock take up residence at a lake across from her house.

          No wonder Florida has most ducks protected but Muscovies them on the “shoot on sight” list.

          Ugly bags of shit, worse than pigeons.

      3. You don’t go on vacation much, do you?

        *remembers the days of feeding and watering animals every day and what a nuisance it is to find someone to stand in*

        We once paid a neighbor to tend our animals while we were gone for a week. When we returned we discovered we were short 2 hens and 2 rabbits. He didn’t bother to dispose of the feathers.

        1. This is why I don’t even have pets. I don’t want to subject them to my care.

        2. Suthenboy,
          I work way more than I should. I have beautiful house and a good family. I have 20 acres of this earth that I own free and clear. When I take a week off work, I stay home. I stay home because I love it here and wish I could spend more time here than I get to. Tending animals can be tedious, but it’s rewarding.

          P.S. I’m a millenial. We’re not all snowflakes.

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      4. I raise chickens in my back yard without a license.

        God Bless you.

    3. It was easily understandable by me, although the 1st quoted sentence would’ve been more clearly written:

      “Under a law known as the Congressional Review Act, the Trump administration could cut a recent slew of regulations that would cost more than $40 billion.”

      If they could afford the extra word count, I’d rewrite it:

      “As the executive arm is authorized by a law known as the Congressional Review Act, Trump’s administration could cut a recent slew of regulations that would otherwise cost business and consumers more than $40 billion.”

      As to the failing vs. flailing, that’s not word salad either, but just reflects his opinion that as the program existed 5-10 yrs. ago, it would likely have led to reforms anyway. His insinuation is that if that were taken as the base again, soon we might end up with worse than we have now.

  8. My best friend, who’s a restaurant manager, assures me that strict public health laws related to food consumption is the only thing keeping us all from being poisoned on a regular basis.

    When I ask if he thinks restaurants would stay in business if they made their customers sick all the time, he replied: “Of course not.”

    So I asked if that’s the case, what incentive does the business owner have to skirt sanitation to the point where it becomes a risk to the public. He repied: “So they can save a few bucks on overhead.”

    I replied: “But we just went over this. A business owner poisoning their customers would tank in the long run, plus make themselves open to a civil case and make less money in the process. So why are you so damn worried about strict health laws? What’s the incentive in pissing off your customers?”

    “Better safe than sorry.”, he replied.

    So by his reasoning, even if it drives up the owner’s operating cost and causes the owner to pass off the extra expense on the consumer and overall, doesn’t really change the likelihood of getting sick, fuck it.

    1. “his reasoning”

      From your description that is not what he is doing at all.

      1. Yep. And what’s magic about food at *restaurants* as opposed to good, ol’ potentially-deadly home cooking?

        1. And that’s what bugs me more than anything else. The same dude will happily eat at mutual friends home who has had dishes sitting in his sink for so long that they’ve grandfathered other dishes. And he doesn’t bat an eye. How does one reconcile this with their views on public food health standards?

          1. Cognitive dissonance is a wonderful thing, T H!

    2. My best friend, who’s a restaurant manager, assures me that strict public health laws related to food consumption is the only thing keeping us all from being poisoned on a regular basis.

      If regulations are the only thing that are keeping him from poisoning his customers… I recommend not eating at this place.

    1. That looks suspiciously like all those polls that showed Hillary ahead of Trump by 1000 points.

      1. I was just checking out of the grocery store and in the magazine rack I noticed the enquirer. Headline: Donald Trump President, we told you so.

        1. To be fair, the National Enquirer was the first newspaper to investigate the Jon Edwards baby mama story. Every other reporter knew he had some on the side, but it wasn’t worth investigating,

          1. So basically every other newspaper fucked up to the point where the National Enquirer has all the scoops.

      2. Yes, as if Rachel is into the cuck scene who wants a bit more variety.

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      Deus Vult!

  9. better labeled food

    Using pictures rather than text?

  10. Fuck it. The wife left thursday morning for florida with two of her girlfriends and I am on my own for a week. I think I will shower and go buy some vodka.

    1. Go whole hog. Buy some vodka and shower with it.

      1. That kind of defeats the purpose of vodka.

        1. wait, that reminds me – I need to go back and see if the Liquor store has gotten Krupnik back in stock.

          Later folks.

      2. And some tampons!

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    2. Potatoe based vodka! None of this grain based bullshit.

      1. Oh, Christ. Did I just pull a Quayle?… Yep. Goddammit!

      2. I always see that stuff in the stores, but have no desire to try it. Typically keep a bottle of Titos to actually drink and the top shelf stuff just to look pretty on my shelf.

        1. A quality potato based vodka has a more earthy but much more mellow aftertaste and nearly no bite whatsoever. At least that’s my opinion. I’m not exactly a connoisseur or anything. I likes what I likes. For example: Italian red wine over French red wine. Don’t know why, just my preference.

          1. I have Luksusowa for guest. It’s inexpensive, but all the vodka drinkers I entertain seem to like it.

          2. The Titos is smoother than all but one of my top shelf vodkas which are twice as expensive or more. One of the few I can drink straight, very smooth.

          3. We’re a North Shore Distillery family.

        2. I see Titos as a god bless America thing,. Like there all sorts of Russians going on all about the history of Vodka, and some Texans make better Vodka than the Russians. Seriously, Russians get your shit together.

          1. It was an older Russian guy I was talking to in a liquor store who told me about Titos, oddly enough. He told me it’s the best Vodka for the price. I was skeptical because it’s made in TX. But turns out the old guy knows his vodka, imagine that.

    3. That’s pretty much what I do when the wife is away, just relax and drink at home. Saves money and gives me some alone time to relax. It’s hard to do that when the wife is here as she always wants to go somewhere whenever I’m not working and have time to actually relax.

    4. My wife is out, which means poker with the boys and before anyone chimes in, yes it’s both a statement of fact and a euphemism.

      1. Deep Eddy’s Ruby Red with a ginger beer is a nice, cheap-ish cocktail if you’re into that stuff.

        1. Don’t forget the slice of lime.

  11. I expect industry giveaways, subsidies, tax breaks, etc….

    Trump is not a deregulator at heart, he’s a cronyist.

    He’s already come out in favor of ethanol mandates.

  12. Chicago O’Hare airport workers plan Thanksgiving strike

    “It is not their intent to disrupt operations, but to make their voices heard and have their concerns of wage theft, safety and working conditions to be taken seriously,” SEIU Local 1 spokeswoman Izabela Miltko-Ivkovich [said].

    Emphasis added. Bullshit.

    1. I once got stuck in DFW airport for two days because of an impromptu TWU strike. It caused me to miss my grandfather’s funeral by three hours. :/

    2. Isn’t the whole purpose of a strike to ‘disrupt operations’?

      1. shhhh…. they’re on a roll…

    3. wage theft
      Dog whistle for marxist fucktard.
      It’s like they believe their job should be what they’re doing for the rest of their life.
      Keep voluntarily showing up for a job that’s “robbing” you.
      The rest of us call that wage theft “income tax”.

    4. I was in Chicago this week. I hate that city and that airport.

      1. What’s to hate?
        They have the highest murder rate in the country, or at least at one time, gun control laws that would make Hitler proud, taxes so high that are only second to Kalifornia, the most corrupt city/county political machine in US history, oppressive pot laws that would make Stalin envious, winters from Hell, laws that strangle small businesses at conception, an economy that will make the city West Detroit in a matter of months, and a really shitty football team.
        Who wouldn’t want to live there?

    5. wage theft

      Aren’t they public employees? If so, they have no right to bitch about “wage theft,” even if it were more than just Marxist claptrap.

      safety and working conditions to be taken seriously

      Curious what that would be. Employees needing to stand up instead of sit all day?

  13. then he may not be as bad as I and millions of other people living in America fear.

    Shikha would like to have a word with you, Baylen.

  14. “Decolonizing” our curriculum

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    1. Well, we all knew that was coming.

  15. Interesting conversation with the pollsters who got it rightish:

    http://www.politico.com/magazi…..set-214461

  16. OT: The Mike Pence at Hamilton story is nuts.

    Especially considering how long it takes to get a ticket, and how much a ticket costs. They spent thousands of dollars and waited months to see a show and interrupted the show to boo a soon-to-be vice president. Get over yourselves, people.

    1. It takes a lot to shock me, but I’ve read that article twice and I still can’t believe it.

    2. Meanwhile, If you walk out of the Book of Mormon, you will have actual Mormons handing out the book of Mormons to you. I’m not sure what that that means, just something to keep in mind. It might be a metaphor for something.

    3. Mike Pence is “strongly anti-LGBTQ” for supporting the RFRA? What the fuck?

      The left has completely lost it. They seem to think anyone who doesn’t hold exactly the views they hold is literally Hitler. They’re fucking fundamentalists.

      1. The funniest thing is, Hitler was one of them.

  17. Trump will appoint a necon/socon hybrid (probably Christie) to head the FDA, who will then launch a ‘war on food’. Food will still be allowed, but only the ‘right’ food. Christie in the meantime will have ALL the food he wants, which will lead to a food supply crisis.

    1. See my post above. If you wanna eat, I got unregistered chicken eggs.

    2. I LIKE this! Let’s run with it!
      I see this as a series; we need a new Zero Mostel in the lead…

    3. Donuts will probably be banned outright. Not just because of the transfats, but because Christie Creme doesn’t want to share.

      1. Cops hardest hit.

      2. You think so? I find a donut mandate a much more likely event.

    4. Make America GrEat Again

  18. He’s a con man. That’s what he does for a living – con people and run scams. So, the whole subsidies thing being essentially a scam, I predict he’ll wallow in it.

    1. That very well be my biggest fear of his impending presidency. He’s more than bright enough to use the office to enrich himself. And as a result, the media will demonize his corporatism, as they should, but label it capitalism, as they know they shouldn’t. But it too conveniently fits the narrative. And will result in a heavily socialist leaning backlash in the next two elections.

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  21. RE: What Trump’s Win Means for Food and Agricultural Policy
    Should we expect a scaling back of regulations or even repeals?

    No.
    There’s no real difference between the two parties.
    Unless the food and agricultural industries gave Trump the Grump a shitload of money, then nothing will change, and even if they did, I doubt any real change (read deregulation) would occur.

    1. Unless the food and agricultural industries gave Trump the Grump a shitload of money, then nothing will change, and even if they did, I doubt any real change (read deregulation) would occur.

      Are you kidding? The food and agriculture industry loves regulation: it keeps the competition at bay, and it usually goes along with price fixing and subsidies.

  22. Obesity will now be encouraged.

    Americans are gonna be huge!

    1. Donuts in the expanded school lunch program.

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