The Post-Orlando Trump/Clinton Crackdown

Matt Welch talks terrorism and the political instinct to control & clench on tonight's Kennedy

Tonight's Kennedy (Fox Business Network at 8 p.m. ET, with a repeat at midnight) is a soberer-than-usual affair, with an appropriately serious look at policy responses to the Orlando Pulse massacre. I'm on there for three segments, along with Democratic political consultant Julie Roginsky and libertarian comedian Dave Smith, sorting through the competing statist responses by presidential front-runners Hillary Clinton and Donald Trump.

I appeared on Kennedy's show a week ago as well. A clip from that:

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[Bubba Jones]

Ban everything!

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

Wow, squirrlz even get the management!

[AlmightyJB]

Muslim Squirrels!

[Quincy.]

The squirrels I know have no sense of direction.

[Playa Manhattan.]

That's what they want you to think.

[Quincy.]

Squish.

[Libertarian]

Yep.

http://bikesnobnyc.blogspot.co.....d-and.html

[TheZeitgeist]

Muslim Squirrels!

Well I'll be damned.

[GILMORE?]

the political instinct to control & clench

i feel like i'm the one controlling & clenching, and its the political class that keeps telling me to breathe and just relax, they'll use more jelly this time.

[GILMORE?]

Also = Were there clips from the Fri-night stossel? I saw nothing.

[Matt Welch]

Turns out I erred -- it's being broadcast on the 24th. FIRE MATT WELCH.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Meanwhile, in Minnesota...

[Dances-with-Trolls]

That's awesome.

[Playa Manhattan.]

Awesomeness aside, there's clearly a human being of the civil service persuasion operating that camera.

I wonder if he even bothered to call anyone.

[TheZeitgeist]

Shovel ready.

[Microaggressor]

Without government, who would put these sick ass ramps on our highways?

[esteve7]

haha, ass-ramps

[lap83]

Crap, that's right by where my parents live

[Playa Manhattan.]

Little Canada? I'm embarrassed for you.

[lap83]

No, a suburb bordering it.

Little Canada is funny. It's all trailer parks, weird old strip malls, and lakefront mansions. I don't think the name is just a coincidence.

[Ted S.]

Seeing how Minnesohhhhhta is covered in snow 11 months a year, why not turn the ramps into ski jumps?

[See Double You]

Maybe now that Matt got double-posted, Reason will take the squirrelz threat seriously.

[Uncle Jay]

RE: The Post-Orlando Trump/Clinton Crackdown
Matt Welch talks terrorism and the political instinct to control & clench on tonight's Kennedy

There's nothing wrong with The State cracking down on gun ownership.
Stalin, Hitler, Castro and any socialist in Amerika would agree with that.
With the proviso of course, only the politically connected, the police, violent criminals and The State own firearms.
Otherwise there will be no People's Revolution here in this country.
Then what will our socialist slavers do for a living?
Did anyone ever think of that?

[Dances-with-Trolls]

Venezuela still a socialist paradise.

The recent wave of lootings and food riots in crisis-hit Venezuela has left three people dead in the last week, authorities and a rights group said.

[TheZeitgeist]

The 'three people dead' is official rate; black market rate is probably much higher. Just like their money.

[Rhywun]

At least their soccer team is leading against Mexico - Venezuela, fuck yeah!

[Libertarian]

Ladies and gentlemen, I give you Tom Palmer:

http://www.nydailynews.com/opi.....-1.2671568

"Let's get one thing very clear. Gun control advocates disarmed the victims at that night club. Florida law states unequivocally that even a concealed carry permit "does not authorize any person to openly carry a handgun or carry a concealed weapon or firearm into any portion of an establishment licensed to dispense alcoholic beverages for consumption on the premises, which portion of the establishment is primarily devoted to such purpose."

No policy can protect Americans when hate walks in with a gun
That made those people sitting ducks. Legally designated gun-free zones are invitations to killers."

[Rhywun]

I'm impressed they let this through, given they are one of the derpier anti-gun papers out there.

[ant1sthenes]

Yeah, the progressive policy on dealing with these psychos is the equivalent of children covering their eyes because if they can't see the monster, it can't see them either.

[Grand Moff Serious Man]

We need the best and brightest to come up with common sense gun control solutions. Like Frank, the acclaimed New York Times commenter.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

I would love to fire a gun that can cut down dozens of people with a single trigger pull.

[Trigger Hippie]

My similar thought was: When the fuck did they start selling bazookas to the general public?!

[sloopyinTEXAS]

Obviously you've never been to Los Angeles.

[Ted S.]

Only if it goes "pew pew pew" and has the thing that goes up.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

From she-who-will-not-be-named:

The Founders wouldn't recognize this cartoon. The First Amendment was never intended to protect something so inane.

Cartoon for those who can't Twitter.

[Trigger Hippie]

Yep! The Founders totally hated the idea of private citizens owning weapons on par with if not better than those used by the military. That's why not a single person in Colonial America owned their own private warships and artillery. Not. A. One.

[sloopyinTEXAS]

Dean Obedumbass said earlier today that the founders never would have "let" people have weapons of war and that it wasn't like people owned their own cannons and stuff.

Then he proceeded to say he spoke for all Muslims and gays and that they stand together against the bigotry of 2A supporters. It was incredible insomuch as I didn't know you could distill retard to a pure essence until I heard him.

[Ted S.]

You'll never reach Peak Retard, however.

[You Sound Like a Prog (MJG)]

I just saw a fantastic argument earlier. It started off demonstrating that an AR is much more effective than a knife or even a handgun, and then called for a reasonable distinction between defensive weapons and murder machines.

I'm trying to get through to the person that she just argued for the AR-15 to remain legal.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Obeidallah is the most disingenuous prick on the planet.

[Lee G]

He's a not so smooth criminal

https://youtu.be/zMLScLUrol4

[Heroic Mulatto]

Wagakki af.

[Dances-with-Trolls]

That's my favorite way to counter the only muskets crowd. I first go with the first amendment route getting them to admit that the principle of free speech applies to media forms that the founders never dreamed of, and then pointing out that the spirit of the second amendment allows for private ownership of tanks and aircraft carriers.

They fucking hate it.

[Hyperion]

This is why we have to ban free speech too. The founders could have never envisioned the intertoobz and how dangerous it is. Back then, it took the pony express 3 days to deliver your post to just one person and only they could read it. Now, any radical libertarian can spray insensitive posts all over the world in seconds!

[thom]

I've definitely heard progs and leftists advocating for "common sense" restrictions on speech "rooted in respect" or some such bullshit.

[sloopyinTEXAS]

Recap from earlier:
Hillary blamed the NRA and the GOP for not banning guns and not passing "common sense regulations" that would have had no effect on this guy. Equates Islamic jihadi terrorism (but not by name) to Christians that might slur the gay community. Says the Muslim community and the LGBT community stand with her and not bigotry, and then proceeds to say Muslims lack agency and are influenced solely by right-wing Christian fundamentalists.

Trump says he wants to stop idiotic nation-building and 15 year wars that have cost over $5T in the Middle East and wants to stop the mistakes Clinton and Obama made with their little gun running scheme in Libya and Syriaand that he wants to temporarily halt all immigration from nations that export a lot of terrorism until we can establish a better screening program.

Gee, which one is based in sanity? Now which one will Nick and pals dissect and denigrate while leaving the other one mostly alone?

[Lee G]

Is this a trick question?

[Hyperion]

But Trump said he's banning guns too, right? I mean I didn't hear it, I just heard the part about stopping immigration from countries that are well known for terrorism.

[sloopyinTEXAS]

BZZZZZZT!

Trump never mentioned guns that I can remember.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Prediction: Hoops

[sloopyinTEXAS]

Fucking NBA. LeBrick teabags Green after trying to cheap shot him and the league sits Green because he calls LeBrick a bitch.

Bill Lambeer would be rolling over in his grave if he knew about this.

[Fist of Etiquette]

That kind of hurt feelings has no place in today's NBA.

[Ted S.]

Let Lu?s Suarez bite Lebron.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Why did Hillary have a black eye?

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

the post so nice, they posted it twice?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Oh, Kennedy. It's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.

[sloopyinTEXAS]

Gopher?

[Fist of Etiquette]

That would only arouse my appetite without bedding it back down.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Oh, Kennedy. It's a fool that looks for logic in the chambers of the human heart.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Safe space? Gun free zone? It's a no brainer.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Gun control talk? CUT HER MIC.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Am I supposed to listen to a man who won't dimple the knot in his tie?

[R C Dean]

So much this.

[Fist of Etiquette]

And here she goes. Welch talks about people diving to their go-to talking points. And on cue the woman dives to gun control.

[Ted S.]

And Kennedy dives to interrupting people?

[OldMexican Trained Philosopher]

She no longer does that ever since the HR department horsewhipped her naked bottom repeatedly until she was screaming in ecstatic pain that she would interrupt no more. At least that is how it happened in my dreams.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Ohhh, if we could retroactively ban Kennedy? Imagine it. < i The Independents might still be on the air!

[Fist of Etiquette]

Shrillary and The Donald taking it on the chin here. I feel like we might be building to a Johnson/Weld push.

[Hyperion]

So Bill O'Reilly and Krauthammer are ready to kill off any aspects of a civil libertarian society to keep us safe. I mean, that's exactly what they said. We can't have all these silly civil liberties and be safe.

I'm not sure whether the neocons or the progs are more orgasmic about this attack.

[Hyperion]

Now they're both praising Hillary for being way more hawkish than Obama. Can these neocons just die in a fire already?

[Ted S.]

You're watching Bill O'Reilly? There's your first mistake.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"What we're talking about is guns that can fire as fast as you can pull the trigger."

So, anything newer than the musket.

[Bubba Jones]

Ignoring the effect of recoil.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Kennedy is in full We Must Do Something mode.

[Rhywun]

Really? Sad!

[OldMexican Trained Philosopher]

There was no Topical Storm. Old Mex is sad.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Yeah, an all estrogen ticket. That will happen, Kennedy.

[Fist of Etiquette]

There's the door, panel. USE IT.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Aw, no Dobbs.

[Peter Verkooijen]

So where is Gary Johnson?

[jackrose]

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