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Eric Holder Says Marijuana 'Ought to Be Rescheduled'

The former attorney general says cannabis does not belong in the same category as heroin.

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In a recently published Frontline interview, Eric Holder made his strongest statement yet in favor of reclassifying marijuana, a process he could have initiated when he was attorney general. Asked if marijuana should be decriminalized, Holder said:

I certainly think it ought to be rescheduled. You know, we treat marijuana in the same way that we treat heroin now, and that clearly is not appropriate. So at a minimum, I think Congress needs to do that. Then I think we need to look at what happens in Colorado and what happens in Washington. 

By putting the onus on Congress, Holder (like his former boss) obscures the fact that the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) authorizes the executive branch to reschedule drugs on its own. Although decriminalizing marijuana probably would require new legislation, the CSA allows the attorney general, after consulting with the Department of Health and Human Services, to move drugs from one schedule to another. He could, for example, move marijuana from Schedule I, which is supposedly reserved for drugs with a high potential for abuse and no medical applications, to Schedule III, which includes accepted medicines with a lower abuse potential. But neither Holder nor President Obama has ever shown any interest in pursuing that option, preferring to pretend it does not exist.

In saying marijuana "certainly…ought to be rescheduled" (albeit by Congress), Holder goes further than comments he made in September 2014, after announcing that he planned to leave the Justice Department. In an interview with Katie Couric of Yahoo News, Holder said:

I think it's certainly a question that we need to ask ourselves—whether or not marijuana is as serious a drug as is heroin, especially given what we've seen recently with regard to heroin, the progression of people using opioids to heroin use, the spread and the destruction that heroin has perpetrated all around our country, and to see, by contrast, what the impact is of marijuana use. Now, it can be destructive, you know, if used in certain ways. But the question of whether or not they should be in the same category is something that I think we need to ask ourselves, and use science as the basis for making that determination.

His stronger comments in the Frontline interview, which was conducted last September but did not air until Tuesday, presumably reflect a greater willingness to be candid now that he is no longer attorney general, as opposed to an evolution of his views.

[via Tom Angell at Marijuana.com]

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133 responses to “Eric Holder Says Marijuana 'Ought to Be Rescheduled'

  1. It’s amazing what epiphanies these people have once they are no longer in a position to act on them.

    1. If they voice those epiphanies while in a position to act on them, they’ll be unemployed before they can take another breath.

      1. So,he’s just a government crony.’I love my power and will keep it no matter what’.

        1. Well, yeah. Someone isn’t given that much power unless they can be trusted to refrain from doing anything with it that would actually help the people. Their interest is in growing and expanding government power. And that’s it.

    2. Yup. Holder’s statement is meaningless at an exponential level. It’s a little embarrassing that Reason gloms onto shit like this as thought it matters.

    3. This is no epiphany. It’s just sleazy politics. It is nothing more than posturing to maintain the delusion that Democrats have a less insane and corrupt drug policy than the GOP.

    4. Eric Holder is a liar and a murder by proxy. His DOJ was as corrupt, gormless, and as cruel as anything spawned in FedGov. If we lived in a just society he would be in prison.

      1. *murderer. Anyway, fuck Holder and what he thinks about anything.

  2. Thanks a fuckin’ lot Eric. Way to challenge the status quo, once you have no authority.

    1. This and all the other “I used to be in a position of power and enforced the drug laws but now that I’m out I’m against them” epiphanies that we see just underline how intensely invested the government as a whole (especially the federal government) is in the drug war. They cannot be part of the machine without following its rules about prosecuting the drug war. Anyone who doesn’t will be hounded out.

  3. This is about as useful as Dick Cheney supporting gay marriage after he was out of office. I somehow actually like Cheney better than Holder, pardoner of Marc Rich.

    1. Much more offensive, really, since the VP has zero power over state marriage laws, but Holder could have, but didn’t, refuse to prosecute marijuana offenses.

      1. +1 power hungry ass.

      2. Excellent point.

  4. Remember that time a high-ranking cabinet official had a pro-liberty epiphany while he was still in a position to actually do something about it?

    No, me neither

  5. But doesn’t heroin also have medical uses?

    1. Yes, it does. The same as any other strong opioid. Though it does at least meet the “strong potential for abuse” criterion.

    2. It was originally marketed as a non-addictive alternative to morphine. Obviously, the non-addictive part wasn’t entirely accurate. And it is still available by prescription in the UK (tightly controlled, though). Since the US, and most other industrialized countries rely more on morphine for extreme pain treatment, then the authorities don’t want to allow its use, even by prescription. Of course, the results of tightening up first oxycodone, and now hydrocodone is that people who are going to use these recreationally, might as well get the good stuff. Might as well be hung for a wolf as a lamb, as they say.
      Personally, the idea that Vicodin is a Schedule II drug now, is absolutely ridiculous. As a matter of fact, since drs and dentists can no longer call it in to the pharmacy, many are giving a script upfront.

      Can you say “Unintended consequences”?

      1. Just to throw this into the mix:
        –Heroin is a Schedule I drug in the US, and pretty much banned in most of the industrialized world other than the UK (and in a few cases in The Netherlands, but only for opioid withdrawal where methadone has failed).

        –Methadone is on the WHO’s List of Essential Medicines. There is nothing magical in comparing methadone to heroin. The only functional difference is that methadone can legally be manufactured, and therefore has much greater quality control that heroin bought on the black market. And that it is longer lasting as an analgesic than other opioids (morphine or hydrocone). The number of deaths in the United States involving methadone poisoning was 4,418 in 2011 which was 26% of total deaths from opioid poisoning. Compare this to 11,693 from natural and semi-synthetic opioids (morphine, oxycodone, hydrocodone, etc.) and 2666 from synthetic opioids such as fentenyl. Also heroin deaths average right around 2000 per year (and this has been fairly constant since 2000).

        1. Addition to the heroin statistic: I guess over the last 2-3 years, heroin deaths have gone up significantly, but still are way under the deaths due to prescribed opioids.

  6. Somebody give him a Nobel. Hero.

    1. More like a Noballs, amiright.

      1. +1 Ken Doll

  7. It would have been nice to see an announcement like this while he still held political power. It’s all well and good but it’s not exactly a profile in courage to make this viewpoint known now.

  8. “Congress needs to do that”

    Uh, according to the Controlled Substance Act,a rulemaking process completed by the United States Attorney General can reschedule cannabis administratively.

    Remember, you ass-covering douchenozzle, that your boss has a phone and a pen. Keep trying to duck your role in this.

  9. “presumably reflect a greater willingness to be candid now that he is no longer attorney general, as opposed to an evolution of his views.”

    Or it could be utterly self-serving bullshit. ” yeah, I know I had more medical marijuana raids than the Bush Administration. But I really didn’t mean it! “

    1. I swear, I felt bad about it every single time.

  10. When it comes to marijuana rescheduling, attorneys general have been and are still a nation of cowards.

  11. Inexplicably, Democrats at the grassroots level run on the perception that they are better on drugs and marijuana in particular. I’ve had Democratic activists working for campaigns (Obama in 2008, some 18 year old nitwits) tell me that he would legalize marijuana. Somehow, Dems get credit for legalization efforts they had nothing to do with. Similar to gay marriage.

    1. I’ve heard Democrats get credit for the end of DODT… despite the facts that 1) it was started by Democrats and 2) it was already being ended by a lawsuit from some Republicans

  12. This fucking Obama administration. What will they do next? Withdraw from Iraq, end Don’t Ask Don’t Tell, legalize gay marriage? Fuck, man.

    1. Oh Tulpy-Poo. You try so, so hard. And this is all you can do. It’s amazingly pathetic.

      1. I know, I know… I lay awake at night debating which Republican hack I’m going to vote for. The last one murdered a million people in Iraq because some mean men tried to kill his father, who only murdered 100,000. Decisions, decisions.

        1. It’s like you don’t even know who you’re talking to….

          1. Can I remind you of this discussion around October, 2016, when we’ll have plaintive arguments about how it’s necessary to all hold onto a really, really large barf bag and cast a vote for Cruz/Rubio because we need to keep The Bitch out of the WH? I won’t be the one making this argument

            1. Perhaps you could go back to the 2012 election threads and see how the very select few who made those arguments regarding Romney were mercilessly mocked? Nah, that would require some intellectual honesty. Carry on, Strawman Slayer.

            2. Oh Tulpy-Poo, trying even harder doesn’t help. You just suck far, far too much.

            3. Nevermind your ridiculous strawman, the fact that you think it will be Cruz/Rubio is indicative of how much you pay attention to anything.

              1. Well, obviously. Everyone knows it will be Rubio/Cruz.

                /sarc

    2. What will they do next? Withdraw from Iraq

      ZOMG I NO RITE ITS SO GRATE THAT THER IS NO MORE TROOPS IN IRAQ!!!!111!!! ALL PRAISE BE TO BARACK H CHRIST OUR LORD AND SAVIOR!!! HOLY IS HIS NAME!!!!!

    3. Socialist are evil by nature,and so are you.

    4. I’m still waiting for the $2,500 savings I’m gonna get from Obamacare.

      1. People who live in countries with single-payer health care systems average about that level of annual savings compared to the U.S. System.maybe you should start campaigning for Bernie Sanders?

        1. Sure and pay half their income or more in taxes.

          1. Not to mention the great friendships they form standing in all those lines! Why, sometimes those friendships last until they die, since that’s likely to happen before they get treated.

            1. Not to mention the great friendships they form standing in all those lines!

              So that’s why it’s called socialism. Your social skills improve substantially!

            2. Government is what we call the the things we choose to do together, like waiting together in lines at the DMV or waiting in our desks for the bell to ring in public school. Socialism is what we call all the togetherness we enjoy waiting in lines for everything.

          2. But Bernie says he’ll pay for it by taxing Wall Street! Wall Street will pay for the whole thing! Because they’re rich and they can afford it! They haven’t paid their fair share! We know this because they are rich! If they paid their fair share then they wouldn’t be rich! So as long as they have more money than someone else, they can afford pay more! Until we’re all equally poor and there’s no one left to envy! Then we will have achieved Utopia!

          3. And sometimes still have to buy private insurance.

        2. You won’t save that money in those countries because it will be absorbed by taxes instead. Higher marginal rates at a much lower bracket plus an onerous VAT will eat up all of that “savings”. And then you won’t be able to get an MRI any time soon because of all that “savings” was spent on other programs.

        3. By the way,it’s medical insurance,’health care’ insurance is what fucked the system.There is no right to medical care,or food,or housing..Pay your way asshole.

          1. And what happened to solidarity with the workers? The number one way “socialized medicine” controls costs is by driving down medical practitioners’ pay. I guess doctors, surgeons, anesthesiologists, nurses, etc. aren’t real workers.

            Which makes one wonder where exactly all of this “health care” will come from when the workers’ paradise arrives.

            1. Health care is taking care of your boo boos when a doctor is not needed.

              1. Of course, good luck finding bandages, antiseptic, and OTC medications when all the vile capitalist profiteers have been driven out of business and “unexpected” shortages ensue.

        4. Bernie Sanders has promised to raise medical spending, not lower it. Since we are already spending more than twice what most other countries are spending, that means we won’t see any savings.

          Oh, and people who live in countries with single payer health care systems also make substantially less money than Americans even pre-tax, and it’s even worse post-tax.

      2. That $2500 is all the copays you save because you still can’t afford to go to the doctor.

      3. Also let me know when we have truly withdrawn from Iraq. Last time I checked we’re still fighting ISIS over there.

        1. we’re still fighting ISIS over there

          … whose rise to power directly follows the “withdrawal”

    5. I can tell you what they won’t do: reschedule marijuana or anything else that requires political courage.

      1. Rescheduling marijuana wouldn’t even require courage in 2016. Tons of people vehemently support rescheduling and the people against it aren’t organized and are much less intense about the subject. It especially would take no courage since they wouldn’t even be legalizing it, just changing the schedule. Since no drug on the Controlled Substances List is legal for recreational sale or use, it would still be effectively outlawed, it would just carry lighter sentences and could be used medicinally.

        There would be no political blowback at all for rescheduling and they still haven’t done it.

        1. Irish, you are wrong on this one. The people who are against rescheduling weed are quite intense about the subject. Rescheduling would be a another nudge down the slippery slope toward legalization. The very livelihoods of politicians, cops, jailers, and lawyers — not to mention the entire recreational pharmaceutical industry as it is now and the beneficiaries of its largesse in the form of bribes and other facilitating payments — are threatened by rescheduling. It would be naive to think that these affected parties do not exert strong political influence, and it would be extremely naive to think that advocates of rescheduling have political clout that compares with that of those adversely affected by rescheduling.

    6. “Withdraw from Iraq”

      And they all lived happily ever after.

      “legalize gay marriage”

      That was the Supreme Court, you fucking retard. Not the Obama Administration.

      1. That was the Supreme Court, you fucking retard. Not the Obama Administration.

        Said Supreme Court did have two Obama appointees on it, though, without whom the decision might not have gone the same way.

    7. Way to stay on topic. But since you went there:
      DADT: Signed by Bill Clinton.
      Gay Marriage: Made legal by SCOTUS, not by executive fiat. Until 2009, Obama believed that marriage was between 1 man and 1 woman.
      “Withdraw from Iraq”: He actually stated uncounted times that he would “End the war in Iraq”. Running away is certainly one way to “end a war”. The Iraq Body Count project states that the total civilian deaths, directly caused by coalition forces, the insurgency or excess crime is between 110,591 to 120,816 as of December 12, 2012. Not a million. And in 2008, the number of American military deaths fell from about 800-900 every year since 2004, down to 300. The war was already winding down. And since Obama gets credit from withdrawing from Iraq, I guess he gets credit for creating ISIS?

    8. What about not killing people with drones, not spying on American citizens, building bridges between races, not wasting trillions on crony capitalism, limiting the power of the executive branch, respecting state marijuana laws? I.e. what about living up to his campaign promises?

      Mind you, I voted for Obama in 2008. I despise Obama because he failed to deliver on his campaign promises. The Obama administration has delivered a mix of incompetence, hypocrisy, and corruption. It’s one thing to get screwed by a hawkish conservative who tells you ahead of time what he is going to do; it’s quite another thing for someone like Obama to usurp the liberal vote through lies and deception.

  13. The Vermont state Senate is voting on a marijuana legislation bill today. I hope they pick up the alt-text bill next.

    1. RESCHEDULE ALT-TEXT!!!!

      *waves protest banner*

    2. Hoping it ends with a more reasonable tax than colorado.

  14. The former attorney general says cannabis does not belong in the same category as heroin.

    Um…

    Sure it should.

    1. If you mean completely legal, then yes, agreed.

  15. There ought to be a Schedule IV , for things that cause befuddlement if ingested, like neoconservatism, The American Thinker, and anything labled gluten-free.

  16. Hell,he’s smoking a joint now that he’s out of government.What an asshole. He was and is a bastard.

  17. Considering that he actually had the authority to do this for, what, six years? What an utter asshat.

    And by authority, I’m pretty sure his signature alone is all that is needed to reschedule (but not deschedule).

    1. A department-wide email to all US Attorneys and AUSAs, ordering them not to prosecute marijuana offenses, or to plea bargain for highly reduced sentence is all it would have taken, really.

    2. That’s about what I was thinking — it’s so much worse than cowardliness or whatever, since while he “certainly” thinks it ought to be rescheduled, we “certainly” seem to recall people being killed and locked up, businesses being destroyed, and the rights of states being trampled upon, on what amounted to his standing orders, as the ultimate head of the FBI, DEA, and ATF.

      We’re not talking about sins of omission here, and there is not a rusty enough woodchipper.

      1. Just remember, they can’t do anything and have no power (even when they control Congress), but somehow they have “a pen and a phone” when it comes time for political posturing and fucking with the opposition.

    3. The att’y gen’l can deschedule too.

  18. I’m sure Obama will say the same thing in, oh, June 2017. Especially if there’s an R in the White House.

  19. Can we reschedule Holder? Maybe into the middle of the Sun, sometime next week?

  20. “…By putting the onus on Congress, Holder (like his former boss) obscures the fact that the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) authorizes the executive branch to reschedule drugs on its own….”

    He also ignores the fact that his former boss really doesn’t give a crap about who should do what; he can just issue a Friday afternoon fatwa through Valerie’s email and be done with it.

    1. Let’s sell guns to the drug cartels.That worked,asshole.

      1. Phony scandal! [/Obot derp]

        1. Automatic guns on the streets of the U.S,and RPGS and,hell that’s the cops

    2. People like Holder “obscure” lots of facts. They count on people either not knowing the details, or being such partisan idiots that they’ll blithely follow anything “their guy” says; it’s only a bad idea if the other guy says the same exact thing.

      1. No ,they lie.They know it and so should you.But,you do.

  21. I am sorry, you don’t get to spend 6 years as AG and do nothing about the drug war and then after you leave office talk about how all these things need to change. Talk is cheap. Holder had his chance as AG to show what is important to him. Saying this now is just spitting in people’s faces. Fuck him.

  22. Gee, I wonder if the unrelenting attacks and claims of unconstitutional usurpation of power by the Obama administration has anything to do with why the admin might be unwilling to spend political capital on something that they don’t feel is that important?

    Or, to put it another way… Obama has used fewer executive orders then most of the presidents for the last half century. And yet he’s still regularly attacked and threatened with lawsuits for the most timid and moderate of things that are obviously within his power. Every time one of his agencies does anything to slightly move out of the status quo, even when it’s within their purview, Republican AGs and congress threaten to sue. Sometimes they *actually* sue.

    So is rescheduling the drug within the power of the DOJ? Yeah, probably. But that hasn’t stopped Obama’s critics before.

    So yeah, I can see why they wouldn’t be willing to put their neck out on this issue.

    1. So you agree he’s coward.

    2. “Gee, I wonder if the unrelenting attacks and claims of unconstitutional usurpation of power by the Obama administration has anything to do with why the admin might be unwilling to spend political capital on something that they don’t feel is that important?”

      There would be no ‘spending of political capital’ by rescheduling a drug that more people than not want rescheduled.

      An outright majority want marijuana legalized according to recent polling.

      So how could doing what a majority of the country wants cost you political capital? In fact, this goes less far than what the majority of the country wants, since it’s just rescheduling, not decriminalization. The argument that there’s some excuse for Obama not to reschedule this because he doesn’t want to ‘spend political capital’ is a joke.

      1. Rationalization ain’t just a river…

      2. Obama has been willing to pretty much destroy the Democratic party in Congress as a price for doing what he wants. Yet somehow he just can’t manage to do this. He really wants to but can’t. The check is in the mail Irish. Obama promises.

    3. Obama has used fewer executive orders then most of the presidents for the last half century. And yet he’s still regularly attacked and threatened with lawsuits for the most timid and moderate of things that are obviously within his power.

      That is an idiotic point. The number of executive orders says nothing about the nature and scope of them. By your logic a President could issue a single executive order instructing the executive branch to ignore the anti-deficiency act and spend money regardless of the budget and he would be not be an out of control executive because he only issued one order.

      Obama has repeatedly either ignored, selectively enforced or outright broke the law in the name of “executive prerogative”. I don’t know where you got that talking point, but you need to find another one.

      1. That and the fact that Obama has issued the Executive Memorandum more than any other President. Functionally, Memoranda and Orders are the same. Reason had article on it, here.

    4. “So yeah, I can see why they wouldn’t be willing to put their neck out on this issue.”

      Waaaah poor Obama! A president getting unfairly attacked? That’s never happened to anyone other than His Eminence and we should all feel very bad that his feels have been so seriously hurt that he can’t be asked to reschedule a drug the overwhelming majority of people want rescheduled.

      I’m sure he’s just sitting in some dark corner weeping because people say mean things about him. Once he’s done with his good long cry, maybe he’ll get around to it.

    5. So, you’re saying that Obama would rather continue to destroy millions of lives than have his feelz hurt? Yeah, you’re probably right on that one.

      1. I am confused Jordan. These people always say the evil Republicans hate Obama and were meaner to him than any President in history. But whenever anyone asks why Obama didn’t do something, the answer is because he couldn’t because the big mean Republicans would have said bad things about him.

        Weren’t they doing that anyway? Or is “the Republicans just attack Obama and nothing else” only true on Mondays, Wednesdays and Fridays?

    6. Go peddle that horseshit to people dumb enough to buy it. Huff Post is that way–?

    7. And yet he’s still regularly attacked and threatened with lawsuits for the most timid and moderate of things that are obviously within his power. Every time one of his agencies does anything to slightly move out of the status quo, even when it’s within their purview, Republican AGs and congress threaten to sue. Sometimes they *actually* sue.

      And sometimes all nine justices agree, despite how obviously constitutional it was.

    8. “Or, to put it another way… Obama has used fewer executive orders then most of the presidents for the last half century. And yet he’s still regularly attacked and threatened with lawsuits for the most timid and moderate of things that are obviously within his power.”

      Is it required that proggies always try mendacity?
      “Sometimes data can be misleading. While the counting of executive orders appears to be an easy way to measure the extent of presidential action, it provides only a partial picture. Such charts also assume that every executive order is equal, which is clearly not the case.
      […]
      What matters then is substance, not the numbers. As we noted, many of Obama’s most controversial executive actions were undertaken with neither an executive order nor a presidential memorandum.
      […]
      the president even said he had been “very restrained.” But the media has dropped the ball too, highlighting an unhelpful numbers game. Two Pinocchios all around.
      Two Pinocchios”
      https://www.washingtonpost.com/

    9. Obama has used fewer executive orders then most of the presidents for the last half century.

      Form over substance. I don’t care what letterhead he puts his arbitrary exercises of power on.

    10. Obama had an obligation to “spend political capital” on this because he promised to do so in his campaign. In fact, Obama kept almost none of his campaign promises related to civil liberties, criminal justice reform, limiting executive power, or subsidiarity. The promises Obama did keep were mostly related to handouts to special interest groups (foremost, his crony capitalist “health care reform”).

  23. By putting the onus on Congress, Holder (like his former boss) obscures the fact that the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) authorizes the executive branch to reschedule drugs on its own.

    Because they’re cowards. That’s why he comes out in favor of rescheduling after he’s safely out of office.

    1. I don’t think they are cowards. I think they are liars. I don’t think they care about the drug war but like the applause that comes with being against it. If they cared about it, they would have done something.

      Obama and Holder are scumbag politicians who view their mission in life as fucking their opponents and rewarding their supporters. They are craven and evil but I would not call them cowards.

      1. It’s just sleazy pandering to low-information voters. Holder is just perpetuating the historically ignorant myth that Democrats have a less corrupt and insane drug policy than Republicans. It might be enough to inspire some of the relatively apathetic free-shit brigade to get out and vote Democrat in November. It may even be enough to inspire some low-information millennials who have disappointed in their expectations for Hope’n’Change.

        The Democrat Party is a coalition of special interests based upon individualized false narratives. Its being better than the GOP in the issue of the drug war is one of those false narratives, and it is targeted to the free-shit brigade and millennials. Democrats want the issue; the last thing want to happen is to end the war on drugs.

      2. They are craven and evil but I would not call them cowards.

        Because you prefer the archaic version of a synonymous word? I get that.

    2. They aren’t cowards, they are opportunists: what they say and what they do maximizes their own power and success, with no attempt at living up to commitments or being honest.

  24. By putting the onus on Congress, Holder (like his former boss) obscures the fact that the Controlled Substances Act (CSA) authorizes the executive branch to reschedule drugs on its own.

    By putting the onus on congress they (Obummer and Holder) can blame those EVUL RETHUGLIKKKANZ for not rescheduling marijuana. They’re more interested in playing silly partisan political games and making the other party look bad than doing what’s right. In other words, they’re craven, mendacious assholes.

    1. So…they’re politicians?

      1. Their job is to steal and feel important about themselves. No one said anything about taking responsibility or doing anything hard. What kind of a government hating nihilist are you?

        1. I…I *am* a government hating nihilist, John. Like, for realz.

          1. You big mean racist.

            1. Hey, none of that gay stuff, please. Get a room!

      2. Pretty much. They just have it down to an art form.

      3. They are! And it’s common for politicians to lie, too. That doesn’t mean we shouldn’t point out such lies when they occur.

  25. So what happened? Did his nephew get popped for possession with intent to distribute or something?

  26. Marijuana is much worse, due to all the trans fats it causes you to eat. Heroin just makes you lay around, an activity very much encouraged by the government

    1. Just last night, the munchies caused me to eat a nice big chunk of fresh mozzarella. That’s how bad marijuana is. I didn’t even use bread!

      (sobs into hands)

      1. “Just like a Dago…bringing cheese to a bread fight!”

    2. Don’t forget the fact that heroin tends to cause constipation and a bare minimum of physical activity. Just think of the all the reduced methane and carbon emissions! It’s downright environmentally friendly!

  27. Having followed this issue for years, I can say that Obama and Holder were ahead of the curve on this. The real problem is the addiction industry, which has a strangle hold on the CDC and NIH/NIDA, which are both incredibly backwards.

    1. “Having followed this issue for years, I can say that Obama and Holder were ahead of the curve on this.”

      Sarc, right?

      1. I think its fair to say that they pioneered new frontiers of mendacity, dishonesty, and cowardice in their relentless pursuit of not doing the right thing.

        1. I was looking at the wrong curve.

        2. Ooops. AM showed up over on the other Holder thread; he’s a pathetic apologist. That’s not sarc, it’s stupidity.

    2. You’ve got to be kidding, right? The president and the AG were well meaning, but the CDC stopped them from acting? I think that kind of incompetence on their part would be even worse than the hypocricy and mendacity they are actually guilty of.

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  29. Eric Holder Says Marijuana ‘Ought to Be Rescheduled’
    The former attorney general says cannabis does not belong in the same category as heroin.

    No one should listen to or care about the opinion of someone who, when they actually had the power to make the change they’re blathering out, failed to do so.

    Holder had the opportunity as head of the DoJ to reschedule marijuana. Holder had the opportunity as head of the DoJ to reprioritize the enforcement of federal drug laws to encourage other federal law enforcement agencies to stop wasting money on marijuana arrests.

    Holder, as head of the DoJ, ran on, full steam ahead, with the same enforcement priorities as his predecessors.

    FUCK Holder. He’s a douchebag who suddenly has morals when they no longer stand in the way of his paycheck.

  30. The CSA does not allow substances to just be moved around–no the CSA rules and regs apply not only to “we the people” but to the federal government. In order for the feds to put ANY substance anywhere on the schedule they are given 1 year (with a one time only 6 month extension) to PROVE to “we the people” that the substance meets ALL the requirements of the schedule they want to place it. If they cannot meet the requirements, the drug is not lawfully on schedule. The Shafer Commission did the research and found back in 1971 that cannabis did NOT meet the requirements of schedule I or II, yet we have the feds unlawfully enforcing for the last 40 plus years as a schedule I when it’s not lawfully placed there under the CSA itself.

    Schedule I substances are those that have the following findings:
    1. The drug or other substance has a high potential for abuse.
    2. The drug or other substance has no currently accepted medical use in treatment in the United States.
    3. There is a lack of accepted safety for use of the drug or other substance under medical supervision

    Schedule II substances are those that have the following findings:
    1. The drug or other substances have a high potential for abuse
    2. The drug or other substances have currently accepted medical use in
    treatment in the United States, or currently accepted medical use with
    severe restrictions
    3. Abuse of the drug or other substances may lead to severe psychological or physical dependence.

  31. It doesn’t bother me that they are liars.

    it bothers me that journalists print their lies.

    It bothers me that voters vote for their lies.

    It bothers me that people die for their lies.

    It bothers me that their lies require me to pay higher taxes.

    It bothers me that they can lie with a straight face. How do they do that?

  32. The little fascist stooge is trying to salvage his legacy now that it no longer matters.

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