Porn in America Is a Story of 'Freedom, Survival,' Says Adult-Film Awards Founder Paul Fishbein

But "somebody somewhere is always trying to find a way to censor speech," Fishbein cautioned colleagues at Saturday night's AVN Awards ceremony.

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"I watched friends get put on trial and go to jail just for selling an adult film," said Paul Fishbein, founder of AVN magazine, at the annual AVN Awards Saturday night.

Known as the "Oscars of porn," the awards show is a high-production value affair hosted in Las Vegas that almost could be the Oscars, if you overlook the myriad references to anal and the award categories like "best all girl group sex scene." In any event, it's the kind of out-and-proud celebration of pornography that would have been unimaginable when Fishbein and two friends founded AVN magazine in 1983 and the AVN awards a year later.

Back then, the AVN awards ceremony was "a small wine and cheese reception held in a hotel meeting room," as Georgina Voss writes in Stigma and the Shaping of the Pornography Industry. 

But the porn industry in America is a story of "freedom" and "survival," Fishbein said Saturday night, accepting a "Visionary Award" from the company he sold in 2010. 

"The choice of Paul Fishbein as this year's Visionary was an easy one," said Tony Rios, current CEO of AVN Media Network. "Paul is someone who understood very early on the importance of the adult film industry, and that it was going to be a moving force in the consumer marketplace in those early days of home video. He has continued to deal with adult entertainment in a serious way, and … he's not getting this award because he's family—he's getting this because he truly deserves it." 

Fishbein has seen the industry adapt to many technological changes, as well as growing public acceptance of porn and shifts in the legal and political climate. But he warned awards-show attendees last night not to be complacent, mentioning the California condoms-in-porn mandate that will be on the ballot next November and the Department of Homeland Security's recent takedown of gay escort site Rentboy.com.

"I've watched for 34 years as the adult industry has taken bullet after bullet," said Fishbein. "Somebody somewhere is always trying to find a way to censor speech and prevent you from doing what you're doing." 

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[GILMORE?]

We want pics from the afterparty

[Elizabeth Nolan Brown]

All-pic post coming soon!

[GILMORE?]

FREEDOM SWEET FREEDOM

[Fist of Etiquette]

My freedom tastes more on the salty side. Uh, so I'm told.

(And with that post, I've out-innuendoed you all!)

[commodious spittoon]

Not to worry, we're going to address that too.

/de Blasio

[Diane Reynolds (Paul.)]

I'm sure DeBlasio is all over our salt-intake.

[Agammamon]

If you didn't hate yourself so much you wouldn't cry as hard afterwards.

[Chipper Morning Wood]

"My freedom tastes more on the salty side. Uh, so I'm told."

Parents are often the harshest critics.

[Fist of Etiquette]

Well, I don't know if salty is necessarily something you should be critici- HEY WAIT A MINUTE

[GILMORE?]

"And while you're waiting, just enjoy this intermission music"

[AlmightyJB]

Yum

[Suicidy]

And what do Peta Jensen and Gina Gerson think?

[Hyperion]

Pr0n is bad, mmkay?

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

Salvidor Dali apparently reincarnated as a confused squirrel.

[John Titor]

Known as the "Oscars of porn," the awards show is a high-production value affair hosted in Las Vegas that almost could be the Oscars, if you overlook the myriad references to anal and the award categories like "best all girl group sex scene."

How many people boycotted the Porn Oscars because it lacked diversity?

"I mean, come on, this gang bang only has like, two Asians and no black people!"

"Once, just once, I'd like to see some black cum all over a face."

Then again, I live in the country that's so insecure about our culture we have a government department complaining about how our porn isn't sufficiently nationalistic.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

How I loathe the CRTC.

Same crap with the CFL. If they'd get rid of the import rule the product would improve and we'd see just how many Canadians can really crack a line-up.

Canada's nationalist obsession with its *culture* is pedantic.

[Winston]

What about the fact that Canada is also supposed to be bilingual and multicultural? These two things inherently make a single "Canadian" culture impossible.

[Winston]

Let's us not ignore how most of "Canadian culture" is the culture of wealthy white Anglo Torontonians.

[John Titor]

I'm not entirely sure of that, considering that Canada's major cultural export of this decade (besides our habit of shipping actors, musicians and such south) is the bloody Trailer Park Boys.

[Winston]

Well it's quite common for the most popular cultural exports to not be high art. See Doctor Who, Benny Hill, Samurai films, film noir, Fast and Furious movies, etc.

[Hamster of Doom]

David Hasselhoff...

[Crusty Juggler]

film noir

"It was the bottom of the barrel, and I was scraping it."

[Suicidy]

Canada has recently brought us the delightful slut August Ames. So I can forgive a lot at the moment.

[Winston]

Oh yeah Canadian nationalism originally referred to English Canadians who wanted to keep Canada white and British.

[junyo]

I'm in Montreal, getting more and more pissed over gas pump prompts exclusively in French. Go inside to pay the attendant. He says, "So, from Toronto?" It took me a second to process that that my disdain for his language and culture didn't immediately and unequivocally identify me as an American. I have since been educated on just how much Torontonians dislike and look down on everyone else in Canada.

They're like polite, frozen New Yorkers.

[Limpee Wiltstock]

'Let's us not ignore how most of "Canadian culture" is the culture of wealthy white Anglo Torontonians.'

They being largely descended New Englanders.

[John Titor]

If you want a good laugh at someone trying to discuss Canadian culture, check out Atwood's extremely stupid attempt to analyze Canadian literature.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Canada's culture is talking about how it has one ad nauseam.

If you have to try that hard you're doing something wrong.

And has anyone caught Justin's performance at the World Economic Summit? Looks like he broke a record for selfies.

[John Titor]

I'm openly avoiding news on the Idiot Prince after developing a zebibah from facepalming. He's just so. Goddamn. Stupid.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Same here.

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

"Politics will eventually be replaced by imagery. The politician will be only too happy to abdicate in favor of his image, because the image will be much more powerful than he could ever be.'

Marshall McLuhan

[LynchPin1477]

Stan Rogers is a treasure. If he was the entirety of Canadian culture then you could still be proud.

[Winston]

Who?

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TVY8LoM47xI

[LynchPin1477]

Great minds, Rufus, great minds...

[LynchPin1477]

Stan Rogers sings Canada's second national anthem.

You're welcome.

[But Enough About Me]

Canada's nationalist obsession with its *culture* is pedantic.

You mis-spelled "pathetic."

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Somehow I doubt people are watching for the dialogue...maybe that's just me.

[Scarecrow & WoodChipper Repair]

Damn, that's pretty funny. Onion-grade stuff that the Onion couldn't make up for fear of having strayed too far from believability. "Truth is stranger than fiction, because fiction has to sound plausibe."

[DEG]

I guess this one porn vid I saw of a French-Canadian woman won't count even though she threw in a little French because she performed in a hotel room in the US with an American man.

[Aloysious]

fta:

Your porn is not Canadian enough,...

Needz moar white people?

[cogitus interruptus]

Yeah, Peter North should really do more Mountie porn.

[Agammamon]

Now I'm imagining a porn remake of 'Strange Brew'.

[Notorious UGCC]

"What do you mean we haven't got any Canadian content, eh? Didn't you see all that maple syrup?"

I just grossed myself out.

[GamerFromJump]

So, the Oscars of Whores and the Oscars of Porn are separate? Who knew?

[Crusty Juggler]

I'm really surprised that "Anal Beauty" won Best Anal Movie this year. My money was on either "Anal Boot Camp 3"or "Gape Lovers 9," but I guess Jules Jordan's performance put "Anal Beauty" over-the-top.

[John Titor]

Crusty's just upset that no one at the Porn Oscar accepted his business cards.

[Crusty Juggler]

Also, Busty Cookie was robbed. Karla Lane as BBW Performer of the Year? Racism anyone?

[GILMORE?]

What's the second B for if not "Black"?

[Hamster of Doom]

Beautiful.

[GILMORE?]

ahh.

i think there are a lot of BUW videos out there being mislabeled.

[Crusty Juggler]

How much porn does Gilmore watch for him to try and make us think that he does not know what BBW stands for?

A) A copious amount of porn?
B) A sybaritic amount of porn?
C) A Peter North-load of porn?

[GILMORE?]

I think that's terribly unfair. I mean, did i already tell you how surprised i was when i learned that "BBC" wasn't at all British?

[GILMORE?]

Also, the answer should have been D

[Crusty Juggler]

Great reference. Under-appreciated movie. It is why an entire generation of men knows the meaning of "guapo."

[Robert]

Blocking below the waist?

[GILMORE?]

...and really, what is it that makes an "Anal" movie? I mean, is it *all anal action*, or can it just be mostly anal action? and does it necessitate DP? DDP?? Is it the title that makes it so? Does it require PIA or can it be completely female-toys-related?

this is why we need more porn-critics.

[Libertarian]

If the Golden Globes can nominate The Martian as Best Musical or Comedy (and it won!), anything goes.

http://www.goldenglobes.com/winners-nominees

[DEG]

I see Angela White won a few awards. Good!

[Mint Berry Crunch]

I haven't checked the full list of winners yet. Was "Best Natural Tits" among her accolades?

[DEG]

She was nominated for Best Boobs. I don't see a Best Boobs winner on the official winner list.

[DEG]

Found it. The official winners has a different name for the category than on the nominee list. Hitomi Tanaka won "Most Spectacular Boobs" award. Tough competition there.

[DEG]

"The official winners list"

[LynchPin1477]

Ugh, those are far too big to be attractive.

[cogitus interruptus]

agreed

[LynchPin1477]

Honestly, a healthy C-cup is enough for me on most women. Some can pull of a D and have it look good, but for most it just looks unnatural. There is absolutely nothing wrong with smaller boobs.

[cogitus interruptus]

Let's not get carried away. An A cup better have a DD personality to make up for it.

No offense ladies, but it's the way it is. I know you feel the same about two inch guys.

[LynchPin1477]

It depends on the woman and what looks good with her body.

[Francisco d'Anconia]

Moar than a mouthful is a waste.

Everyone is correct when they say, "Fd'A, you're an ass, man."

Or something like that.

[cogitus interruptus]

I heard it was more than a handful... but whatever measurement technique floats your boat, you kinky devil.

[Limpee Wiltstock]

More than a moderate to large basin full is a waste.

[cogitus interruptus]

If you hear a guy talking about garbage disposal fulls, run away.

[lap83]

It's funny how often guys talk about the letter in absolute terms. A 38B is the same cup volume as 34D

[Hamster of Doom]

It's funnier when they don't realize they sound like idiots. Goddammit, Lap.

*puts away popcorn*

[cogitus interruptus]

Doesn't the number include the rib cage diameter? I'm not into massive rib cages.

[lap83]

How dare you. My 42AA bra size is damn sexy

[Hamster of Doom]

He was never in the running anyway.

[lap83]

Nice

[cogitus interruptus]

Women are saying things and I'm totally confused. Unfortunately, a very familiar experience.

[Crusty Juggler]

Check out these broads trying to teach us about bras and breast sizes.

" You've got the A, the B, the C, and the D. The D's the biggest.

You've got the cups in the front and two loops in the back. That is about it."

[lap83]

Good reference and Jerry Stiller is awesome but he was wrong. For example, a 36C is bigger than a 32D

Hamster is right though, it's more fun to just laugh at you

[Crusty Juggler]

The cups are in the front! Tim is never right. No one has ever laughed at me.

[cogitus interruptus]

It may be bigger in volume, but the volume is spread out laterally across the chest. It doesn't contribute to my purposes.

[lap83]

The only brand I have been able to find in my size is the Warty line of training bras, but there are some very attractive styles

[Hamster of Doom]

It's a rare woman who can pull off studded leather.

[cogitus interruptus]

You can take my 16DD Real Doll from my cold, dead, sticky hands.

[lap83]

16 seems like a lot of rib cage for something that doesn't even have lungs.

[lap83]

unless the back opens up for storage or something

[Pathogen]

That's where the air horn goes...

[cogitus interruptus]

There probably isn't a "Best Fake Tits" category as that subject is generally not talked about.

[Mint Berry Crunch]

There should be. Women should be unapologetic about their surgical choices. Down with silicone-shaming!

[DEG]

Yes. It allows those of us who like natural breasts to concentrate our attentions on the right women. Those that like implants can then do the same.

[cogitus interruptus]

I would have no problem with their surgical choices, if they didn't always come out looking grotesque. Scars, misaligned parts, unnatural movement or lack thereof.

Women getting implants to look more attractive while clothed is understandable, if kind of sad. When their profession requires being naked it doesn't make any sense at all.

[straffinrun]

They have that at the Golden Gold Diggers Awards.

[cogitus interruptus]

How surprising that Rob Gronkowski was blatantly lying to the officials trying to get a flag on that last play in the end zone. As Amendola said about knocking opponents' heads off during kicking plays, "we're coached to do that".

Your legacy of sportsmanship lives on, Belicheat.

[Ted S.]

Why couldn't both teams lose?

[Migrant Log Chipper]

I hate the Patriots but the defender had a hold of his jersey which prevented him from going up to try to catch the ball.
But he got away with it and that is that. You obviously didn't watch the replay.

[cogitus interruptus]

3 unflagged intentional groundings on this drive for Brady. Unbelievable.

[Heroic Mulatto]

Trying to derail a porn thread into a discussion of football?

[DEG]

If he talked about the lady cheerleaders, that would be OK.

[Swiss Servator]

HM, Tom Brady Sad-Face is pr0n to me...

[Rufus The Monocled Derp Slayer]

Bah. It came down to a missed PAT.

[cogitus interruptus]

Every play matters. I like it.

But they shouldn't have been anywhere near the end zone with all the Pats' intentional groundings and offensive pass interference.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

You don't know much about intentional grounding, do you?

[Mr Lizard]

Ya the NFL wanted the larger audience to go to the Super Bowl...anyone seen any TBSF yet?

[cogitus interruptus]

Cam is a showboater and the Cardinals are supremely boring. So expect the flags to go the Panthers way in this game.

[cogitus interruptus]

Won't be necessary since Carson Palmer studied at the Jay Cutler school of ball handling.

[straffinrun]

Do you go for 2?

[straffinrun]

There's a football game on?

[Aloysious]

"Somebody somewhere is always trying to find a way to censor speech and prevent you from doing what you're doing."

Very truthy.

[Mint Berry Crunch]

Waaaaaaait a second. James Deen won some awards? I guess AVN is run by "rape denialists"!

[Ted S.]

He was terrible in "Rebel Without a Cause".

[Winston]

YOU'RE TEARING ME APART!

[Ted S.]

I always think of George Costanza imitating his mother when James Dean delivers that line.

[Winston]

I take it you prefer Wiseau's delivery?

[DEG]

I chuckled when I saw that. I wonder the SJWs will say anything.

[SFC B]

The Jezehellions are complaining far more porn in general than Deen in particular.

[Ken Shultz]

Why aren't you homos watching football?

[Swiss Servator]

We are - this is why laptops were invented.

[But Enough About Me]

*narrows gaze*

[Hamster of Doom]

Binge-watching the original Iron Chef sounds like so much more fun.

[cogitus interruptus]

After what they did to Michael Sam (the Jackie Robinson of gays)?

[Migrant Log Chipper]

He sucked..case closed new progtroll.

[Jerryskids]

How exactly do they do the CGI that makes this replay of the game look like Seattle is wearing red uniforms?

[Slammer]

Oldie, but goodie:

Pornhub comments on stock photos

[GILMORE?]

That is much more funny than anything Cracked.com has done.

[GILMORE?]

The "waterboarding" one tho.

[Crusty Juggler]

wuld pound. yes.

Stolen.

[straffinrun]

Why did Goldman Sacs pay you 200K for a speech? Because they want to learn about the world.

Sorry, but just had put Hillary in a pron thread. It works better than thinking about baseball.

[Ted S.]

Nobody's making you think about baseball.

(I for one am thinking about the resumption of the Champions League.)

[straffinrun]

I used to think about baseball to keep from going off too soon. Now, 20 years later, I think about the girl I was with at that time to make sure I go off at all.

[Frank in Spokane]

Porn is a lie, and proof that the free market isn't always right.

[tarran]

I thought the eagle eggs were a lie! Now the porn is too?

[GILMORE?]

That thar is some authentic frontier logic

[Migrant Log Chipper]

It's Spokanistan...something in the water...Flint ring a bell?

[Heroic Mulatto]

Trying to derail a porn thread into a discussion of the free market?

[Quincy.]

Rule 34 isn't a rule, I can't find any Milton Friedman porn.

[__Warren__]

Free to Cooze.

[Quincy.]

The Essence of Friedman

[Slammer]

Edited by Kurt Lube

[Quincy.]

Two Lucky People

[GILMORE?]

"Copulation and Freecum"

[Quincy.]

Money Mischief: Make it Rain

[__Warren__]

Rose's Bud.

[Quincy.]

That's crass. But then, Director's cut.

[GILMORE?]

"Nobel-Laureate Bukkake 25"

[Quincy.]

Consumption Function.

[__Warren__]

A Fuckatory History of the United States, with Anna J. Schlong.

[Quincy.]

Unemployment versus Inflation?

[Suicidy]

Which part of Spokane?

[hurts_donut]

Reason, how bout an NFL/trump open thread. Do it and I'll post some abortion links in the comments section.

"...some men aren't looking for anything logical, like money. They can't be bought, bullied, reasoned, or negotiated with. Some men just want to watch the world burn."

[Heroic Mulatto]

Leopard - a bastard Son of the Unicorn-Samurai

[GILMORE?]

...

...

...

its like, some people just don't know when the broadway musical is over. And donkeys aint 'graceful, motherfucker. Donkeys are mean and stupid.

[hurts_donut]

I wish the Denver and Pats game was the late game. This is just pathetic.

[DenverJ]

AFC Champions, baby! Yeah! Super Bowl, here we come!

[hurts_donut]

Hell of a game. It should be a good bowl. Cam vs Peyton.

[Migrant Log Chipper]

Nope, sorry, it won't be close...

[JeremyR]

Meh. I think the porn industry has a persecution complex. I mean, seriously, the industry has taken "bullet after bullet" in the last 34 years? Since 1983?

I really can't seem to recall any mass incarceration of pornographers. Hell, did anyone even go to jail over the Tracy Lords deal? A normal person who has sex with an underage chick is pretty much always prosecuted (unless it's a woman of course), but I don't recall any porn stars getting arrested for that.

[Winston]

Where's the Trump Porn Video? Hopefully it will involve ass-sex with a Mexican while smoking pot.

[hurts_donut]

It'll be the most fantastical, amazing porn god ever made.

[__Warren__]

It's YUUUUUUUUUUGE!

[cogitus interruptus]

Communications Decency Act in 1996 was an attempt to kill online porn.

Feds attempted to ban porn with adult actresses pretending to be minors and was struck down by SCOTUS in 2002.

Bush administration obscenity prosecutions.

LA and now Cali are banning condom-free sex in porn.

[Suicidy]

Traci had a legit US passport obtained with a fake ID. The legal reasoning was that if she could fool the Federal government and produce a legal passport, how could they be expected to figure it out.

[hurts_donut]

The biggest winners of the AVN awards...coke dealers

[__Warren__]

Do they have cherry?

[hurts_donut]

They do but suprisingly zero with orange was the big hit.

[hurts_donut]

You know your business model is in trouble when a couple of fuglies with a web cam can put you out of business.

[hurts_donut]

My favorite porn is "people fucking on video"

[hurts_donut]

That and "Short Circut 2". I got a thing for robots with bandanas tied around their neck. I figure it has something to do with my parents beating me during childhood.

[cogitus interruptus]

Mine is Old Scully and Old Mulder searching for UFOs.

Tonight I'm in luck.

[cogitus interruptus]

WTF is Obama doing on this show? MY GOD his attention whore-ness knows no bounds.

[LynchPin1477]

The real him? Like in a cameo?

[cogitus interruptus]

Yes. On a TV screen with Jimmy Kimmel inside the show, but it looked like something specifically produced for this show, not existing footage of Kimmel's show.

[hurts_donut]

Are they acknowledging the movies?

[cogitus interruptus]

I never saw the movies. They gave 2002 as the date the X Files were closed, so I believe that includes the movie era.

[LynchPin1477]

I'm avoiding the new X-Files. No need to ruin a good thing (I cut out before the last couple seasons of the original).

[hurts_donut]

The first 20 mins were political references. They mentioned liberls and bill o reilly. Im about to call it

[hurts_donut]

Gotta give Gillian Andersons surgeon props. He did a good job on turning her into a cat.

[cogitus interruptus]

Carrie Fisher's got some competition for plastic surgery hackjob of the year.

[cogitus interruptus]

I thought she was going to pull the shirt all the way up. Dammit.

[cogitus interruptus]

What rifles are those? In 1947 they should have had M1's. But those things look like Sturmgewehrs.

[hurts_donut]

Whatever they are, theyre good at killing aliens crawling through shallow brush

[hurts_donut]

Aliens also dont wear clothes and like to show off their ass crack

[cogitus interruptus]

Obama got to show up in the cute Jimmy Kimmel clip at the beginning, while Bush shows up in the eeeeeeeeeeeevil government conspiracy montage. Sigh.

[hurts_donut]

Bats vs supes is not looking too good

[LynchPin1477]

The previews I've seen don't seem all that bad. But it's Zack Snyder, so I don't expect that much.

[hurts_donut]

I hope its good. Who wouldnt want to see bats vs supes. Lex is the big one that bugs me. Marvel embraces the cheeseness to a certain degree and that helps it. I hope DC isnt painting itself into a corner. The suicide squad looks good

[hurts_donut]

Painting itself into a corner with dark and gritty

[cogitus interruptus]

It won't be as bad as Deadpool, I think.

[hurts_donut]

I think deadpool will be decent but its deadpool so its not gonna have high standards or take its self too seriously

[hurts_donut]

The red band trailers are better. The tv spots are dog shit.

[Limpee Wiltstock]

Well, it's the reason why the pornoers don't end up dying off from venereal diseases and so forth: under the persecutorial regimine, they end up going down in front of a firing squad from shot after shot to the face long before the syphilis gets to run its course. It's why most pornists (I have no idea what to call the folks in porno. Pornographer is obviously wrong, and the commonly employed "pornactress" or "pornartist" seems kind of wrong. Maybe Pornofolk is the way to go.) are so young.

[Limpee Wiltstock]

My man just told me it's properly "pornies". Or maybe he said "pornese". I can't tell.

[lap83]

Porn-eaZe (tm)

[cogitus interruptus]

Professional fornicat[or/rix].

[Quincy.]

"person of the pornartisinal profession"

[cogitus interruptus]

coital engineers

[Quincy.]

humpsters

[lap83]

Hipsters humping?

[Quincy.]

Eew. Why would you want to see that?

[lap83]

I was asking for Crusty

[Quincy.]

Very well, carry on then.

[hurts_donut]

Porn stars?

[Quincy.]

Now you're just micro-aggressing against the supporting cast.

[hurts_donut]

I didt realize there was a supporting cast. Has the oscar academy heard of this?

[hurts_donut]

The supporting cast is a quilt blanket

[Quincy.]

All these chicks hate you.

Best Supporting Actress

Anikka Albrite, The Turning, Girlsway/Girlfriends

Julia Ann, Stryker, Digital Playground/Pulse

Skin Diamond, Love, Sex & TV News, Adam & Eve Pictures

Jessica Drake, Starmaker, Wicked Pictures

Allie Haze, Love, Lust & Longing, Wicked Pictures

Karla Kush, My Girlfriend's Mother 8, Sweet Sinner/Mile High

Abigail Mac, Flesh, Digital Playground/Pulse

Chanel Preston, This Ain't The Interview XXX, Hustler Video

Amber Rayne, Wanted, Wicked/Adam & Eve

Jessa Rhodes, Sisters of Anarchy, Digital Playground/Pulse

Celeste Star, Saving Humanity, ATKingdom/Kick Ass

Misty Stone, Magic Mike XXXL, Wicked Pictures

Stoya, Screwing Wall Street: The ArrangementFinders IPO, Manuel Ferrara/Evil Angel

Kleio Valentien, Batman v Superman XXX: An Axel Braun Parody, Wicked Comix

Kasey Warner, Mother's Little Helper, Skow for Girlfriends Films

[hurts_donut]

I'll definitely add them to the list

[cogitus interruptus]

they end up going down in front of a firing squad

Better than having them go down behind a firing squad.

[Hamster of Doom]

We all like different things.

[Notorious UGCC]

"Pooooorn, in the USA, we got so much porn here in the US of A!"

[hurts_donut]

You are a religious guy how do you feel about porn?

[cogitus interruptus]

"We both peddle fantasies, Brother Lancel. Mine just happen to be entertaining."

[hurts_donut]

Hahaha

[Notorious UGCC]

I was going to look up a quote about paying to watch other people have sex is as pathetic as paying to watch someone eat, but my search uncovered this:

"...in South Korea, single eaters are adopting an odd but kinda logical solution to remedy the lonesome eater's blues: People are paying to see other people eat on the Internet."

[Sevo]

So your search uncovered a totally irrelevant subject, and you linked to that?
Why, imagine my surprise that eddie once again tries bullshit to respond to a question! Gee, eddie, I guess honesty just isn't possible for some bleever ignoramus,

[Notorious UGCC]

hurts_donut used the f-word - how do I *feel.*

I answered that question.

[Quincy.]

Back off, Sevo. We must remain united against the dingbats.

[Sevo]

Nope.
Eddie is honest only when his superstitions are not challenged, and once they are, it's bullshit on bullshit. Sorry, I do not need bullshit artists as allies.

[Notorious UGCC]

I can't stay mad after what I've been listening to just now (see below).

[hurts_donut]

Is there people that still pay to watch people fuck?

[cogitus interruptus]

You don't pay to watch people fuck. You pay not to get malware.

[hurts_donut]

Never got malware from the 'hub

[Quincy.]

Is there people who care what you say?

[hurts_donut]

Apparently so

[cogitus interruptus]

Paying to watch someone do hocus pocus on a pile of bread is much less pathetic.

[Notorious UGCC]

It inspires better music.

[Notorious UGCC]

I mean, what kind of pathetic loser could draw inspiration from such things?

They're obviously dumb and pathetic.

[lap83]

No Bach?

[Notorious UGCC]

You'd think I was stealing a base if I linked to Lutheran music.

[Notorious UGCC]

here

[lap83]

Bach is interesting because he was inspired by God with all of his music but today it's largely used in secular contexts. I wonder what he would have thought about that

[GamerFromJump]

But then, ability is important. If Haydn had composed "The Evolution", it would most likely have still been great.

[Notorious UGCC]

You guys will always have Strauss' Also sprach Zarathustra.

[Notorious UGCC]

At the risk of violating Matthew 7:6, I will provide some more links.

[Sevo]

OT, scare story in local rag,

"The 10 most toxic items at Dollar Stores"
http://www.sfgate.com/life/art.....772250.php

Well, yeah, some of them might be toxic if you ate enough extension cords or something similar. A few of the comments will give you hope for humanity - "This score is 100% scaremongering BS." - the rest will remind you of the prevalent lefty jingoism.

[Sevo]

"Panthers open up 4-point favorites in Vegas over Broncos"
http://www.sfgate.com/sports/a.....781335.php

Manning is looking old and tired, and he's hoping his D sill save his ass. That last quarter with nearly no 1st downs wore the D to a frazz. Fortunately for Payton, the D held.
I'm guessing the Panthers and the odds.

[JeremyR]

I was actually surprised they didn't put in the other QB, Manning looked so terrible and almost threw away the game.

(Though not literally like Palmer who could have had 10 interceptions)

[Migrant Log Chipper]

This ...4 or 41/2 to start for Carolina. Denver has a great D but bringing down Brady vs. bringing down Cam are two different things.Manning has a noodle arm at this point. Great career but he's past his prime...the new beats the old going away, carolina with a couple picks and win by 10. And I'm a Vikings fan, no dog in this hunt. Carolina covers.

[cogitus interruptus]

Gov. McAuliffe says he's spending $2M per hour on snow removal. Either he's bullshitting or he got some serious campaign contributions from snowplow operators and salt distributors.

[Sevo]

"Gov. McAuliffe says he's spending $2M per hour on snow removal. Either he's bullshitting or he got some serious campaign contributions from snowplow operators and salt distributors."

Are they "minority-owned" contractors? If so, it's an odds-on bet that the "owners" have shopped their names to the highest bidder and are certainly major campaign contributors.

[Agile Cyborg]

Ancient hells haunt the freedom Sunday after church picnic. Agile seems to think that Christians are ok until they start acting like motherfucking socialist communist ass-tweaking Gawker fucks.

[Agile Cyborg]

Fuckers love their religions mounted on prisons and biceps and solitary cages and cots filled with blood.

[Agile Cyborg]

The universe just is. humans and their short dreams but powerful prisons kill being alive among the planets and their personalities. Law is loved by the authors of cages. Law is the horn jamming the oxygen spirituals.

[Agile Cyborg]

If you climb mountains and eat sparks of normal grocery stores and then go home and get all jello real like all suburban exercise class in the metal tall building in the parking lots and shit and then go home and make a sandwich of arugula and shit while the kids sleep and sweep the fucking dog hairs up and get pissed at the cat for walking on the table and the goddamn cat swishes his/er tail and doesn't give a single shit and you pad in the moons of quiet hallways to your bed where the male/female of your alternative thingjizz sleeps soundly in the mushy powdery lovely carpet night as you drop the cottons and stretch and slide into the sandwich of dreams.

[Agile Cyborg]

Sandwiches of dreams call the clubs of the old magicians, babe. If you raise a smile the old genius hill sorcerers will send warm vapors into your luck.

[Agile Cyborg]

Pornography is the antithesis of tyranny.
Pornography is the love of sex.
Pornography is the adventure of space planets where astronauts jump about the swerve clouds and then eat cocks with their vaginas.
Pornography is fuck valleys sweating under the pale moons.
Pornography is the lasers of poets shifting their balls among the castaways and golden pearls of reincarnations on the altars of the spirits.
Pornography is sunrises bursting with svelte lights scramming the space above with delirious swerving parakeets.
Pornography is when your Jesus is free.
Jesus is free when Agile can freely stroke his fat cock to teams of blonde bitches sucking him off.
Jesus can save when Agile can cum.
Mohammed can be free to be when Agile can fuck pussies and drink piles of booze and eat cars.

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