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Civil Liberties

Los Angeles Police Shoot Unarmed Man in Head, Roll Him Over, Handcuff Him

The handcuffing was definitely appropriate, says LAPD.

Robby Soave | 6.20.2015 6:01 PM

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Los Angeles police shot a man in the head on Friday—supposedly out of concern that he was concealing a weapon under the towel he was holding. They later discovered that the man was unarmed.

But first, the officers rolled the unconscious man—who was bleeding from the head wound—onto his stomach so that they could handcuff him. He was later taken to the hospital and is in critical condition.

It's unclear whether the officers had any reason whatsoever to suspect that the man was dangerous. The incident occurred in broad daylight in the relatively safe neighborhood of Los Feliz. The officers were driving by when the man flagged them down, calling "police, police." According to the Los Angeles Times:

The man flagged down officers about 6:35 p.m. at Los Feliz Boulevard and Tica Drive south of Griffith Park, according to a police account.

"This person extended an arm wrapped in a towel. The officer exited the vehicle and said, 'Drop the gun, drop the gun,'" LAPD Lt. John Jenal said.

At that point at least one officer shot the man, officials say. He was taken to a hospital where he was listed in critical condition.

The aftermath was caught on video by a neighbor. The disturbing footage shows the officers handcuffing the man even though he was in very, very bad condition. Nevertheless, a spokesperson for the LAPD confirmed that proper protocol had been followed:

LAPD Cmdr. Andrew Smith, a department spokesman, said the officers followed standard LAPD protocol in handcuffing the man when they did. At that point, Smith said, the man had not been searched and was considered a suspect.

"We always do that," Smith said. "That's the policy … to handcuff someone in a situation like that."

Smith cautioned that the investigation into Friday's shooting was still in its early stages. One of the key questions, he said, was why the man flagged down the two uniformed officers.

Smith seems to think "suicide-by-cop"—where a person intent on ending his own life deliberately provokes the police into firing a kill shot—is a possibility here. But maybe the man simply needed some kind of assistance, and didn't realize holding a towel would be interpreted as a threat.

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  1. Djucational Woodchipper   10 years ago

    But what kind of towel was it?

    1. fish   10 years ago

      The kind with that “thing that goes up”!

    2. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

      An assault towel.

      1. Dances-with-Woodchippers   10 years ago

        Maybe it was one of these?

    3. Episiarch   10 years ago

      A beaner towel?

    4. Bronwyn   10 years ago

      Every hitchhiker knows you don’t go anywhere without your towel.

      1. rudehost   10 years ago

        And don’t panic!

  2. SoCal Deathmarch   10 years ago

    I’ve been wondering around on my own for the past few weeks. Ya know, helpin’ people out with towel safety and proper towel use. It’s important!

    You wanna get high?

    1. Episiarch   10 years ago

      Don’t preach to me, fatso!

    2. Eggs Benedict Cumberbund   10 years ago

      I’m watching The Wire for the first time (on the last season right now). That it is still so relevant is kinda spooky.

      1. Old Man With Gag Order   10 years ago

        We just binge-watched the whole series. It was spectacular, and as a recovered Baltimorean, I can attest to the reality. The Jay Landsman in-joke is hilarious. And there’s one other hilariously-clever bit of casting which you’ll soon come to.

    3. masculistman   10 years ago

      You wanna get high?

      Yes,yes I do.

  3. Dances-with-Woodchippers   10 years ago

    No video of the shooting. Any guesses what, besides paid vacation, will be the consequences for shooting an unarmed man?

    1. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

      Nothing Else will continue to Happen?

  4. fish   10 years ago

    Towels, dogs, phones…..these just examples of the kind of lethal devices the LAPD combats daily!

    STOP DRYING……STOP BARKING…..STOP TEXTING!

  5. Notorious G.K.C.   10 years ago

    Seriously, I’m glad he’s still alive and, though more info might come out later, right now it doesn’t look too good for the cops.

    On a lighter note, maybe he was a space hitchhiker?

    1. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

      The towel trick only works on the ravenous bugblatter beast of Traal, and it goes around the head.

  6. robc   10 years ago

    Controversy in Louisville right now, as the Louisville head of FOP is unaware of any police misconduct nationwide. NO INCIDENTS.

    1. Bronwyn   10 years ago

      Sooooooo not surprised. We do live the ‘ville, after all. Corruption all the way.

  7. Pathogen   10 years ago

    “Smith seems to think “suicide-by-cop”?where a person intent on ending his own life deliberately provokes the police into firing a kill shot?is a possibility here.”
    .
    And, still another possibility is that, “suicide-by-cop” is just waaaaayy to fucking easy and reliable these days.. It seems more dependable that pills or car exhaust, which lack the enthusiasm and zeal..

    1. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

      The new “drop gun” used by cops won’t be a weapon at all but a prewritten suicide note.

      1. Pathogen   10 years ago

        “The new “drop gun” used by cops won’t be a weapon at all but a prewritten suicide note.”

        Too much effort.. no suspension paid vacation..

    2. Careless   10 years ago

      What, like you can expect a cop to shoot accurately then?

  8. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

    But maybe the man simply needed some kind of assistance, and didn’t realize holding a towel would be interpreted as a threat.

    Which at this point is like using a claw hammer to fix your eyeglasses.

    1. Limpee Wiltstock   10 years ago

      Yeahr, he needed some assistance making whatever was his original situation EVEN MORE FUCKED UP. What in hell else is the police going to do? The only reason to call them is to make things worse.

  9. Dances-with-Woodchippers   10 years ago

    Via Twitter: Joe Arpaio ?@RealSheriffJoe Jun 18
    As requested @ReverendMaupin, I will mobilize my deputies & armed posse for security @ churches throughout the county. #CharlestonShooting

    I’m sure that they feel safer already.

  10. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

    “We always do that,” Smith said. “That’s the policy … to handcuff someone in a situation like that.”

    We always handcuff the unarmed people we shoot in the head.

    1. Pathogen   10 years ago

      Regardless of whether or not we have reasonable suspicion of a crime.. It’s for their own safety..

      1. Monty Crisco   10 years ago

        Right. For their own safety. As pants-shitting pussies who are fucking so afraid of their own shadows and everyone and everything that they shoot some clueless fucker in the head and ARE STILL AFRAID as they watch him bleed out. What fucking pussy fags.

        Feed em all into a woodchipper, I sez…

        1. King of Cartoons   10 years ago

          Feet first so you can bask in the screams of cowards.

  11. Dances-with-Woodchippers   10 years ago

    What I’m wondering is if the cop who demanded that this man drop his phantom gun was the same asshole who shot him in the head or if his panicked behavior set off a violent reaction from a different cop.

    1. Chipper Gore (Suthenboy)   10 years ago

      Sounds like cop #2 heard ‘Gun!’ and went into panic mode. His brain turned off and he got tunnel vision and the guy was shot before he knew what he had done.

      “One of the key questions, he said, was why the man flagged down the two uniformed officers.”

      Either for help or to report a crime, a crime some other cop is not working on because he doesn’t have the info he needs. Of course that is speculation. a video would be helpful. I am guessing the video would show a Tamir Rice-like situation but with a towel instead of an airsoft gun.

      At this point why would anyone have any contact whatsoever with cops? Why would anyone call them for anything at all?

      “Every situation is made infinitely worse by the arrival of a policeman.” – Mark Twain

      It isn’t getting worse. Reporting is just getting better.

      1. C. R. Harris   10 years ago

        I’m about to check the origin of that quote, and if it is found to be from Mr. Twain, you will have changed my Facebook forever.

        1. Jimbo   10 years ago

          There is no human situation so miserable that it cannot be made worse by the presence of a policeman.–Brendan Behan (1923–1964), Irish writer

      2. Ted S.   10 years ago

        Sounds like cop #2 heard ‘Gun!’ and went into panic mode. His brain turned off

        It’s a cop. He doesn’t have a brain.

    2. Agammamon   10 years ago

      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY5zuerWj_E

      YO! He got a gun!

  12. LarryA   10 years ago

    Last time my wife got her hand injured (dog bite) she wrapped it in a towel (that she couldn’t drop because I taped it) and we went to the emergency room. I guess we’re lucky she saw a doctor, who stitched her up, instead of a cop, who would have assisted her suicide.

    Don’t. Call. The. Police!

    1. Vernon Depner   10 years ago

      Was it a chow? They always seem to go for the hands.

      1. Heroic Mulatto   10 years ago

        As opposed to this breed.

  13. Jerryskids   10 years ago

    I hate to agree with the police spokesman there, but suicide-by-cop is the most likely reason this shooting happened. You can tell the guy’s crazy given the fact that he voluntarily approached the police. No sane person would do that.

    1. Pathogen   10 years ago

      He sought protection.. and got served..

    2. Chipper Gore (Suthenboy)   10 years ago

      You have a good point Jerryskids.

      1. Jerryskids   10 years ago

        Unfortunately, deliberately avoiding meeting the police won’t save you, either. Just ask Freddie Gray. It’s a real Catch 22 (or Catch 357, as the case may be).

  14. Brochettaward   10 years ago

    So, is there any safe way to talk to a cop with something in your hand? Is a pack of bubblegum safe, or would they worked up about that, as well?

    I was going to say that this proves the only way to approach them is with your hands in the air very slowly while saying don’t shoot…

    1. db   10 years ago

      “What do you mean, ‘don’t shoot’?”
      OMG GUN!

      *BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG*

      *snick-clatter* *smack* *click-clack*

      *BANGBANGBANGBANGBANG BANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANGBANG BANGBANGBANG*

      1. Half-Virtue, Half-Vice   10 years ago

        Must be a cream duck sauce cause that is rich.

    2. Francisco d'Anconia   10 years ago

      So, is there any safe way to talk to a cop

      On the phone? Preferably long distance.

      1. Bronwyn   10 years ago

        On a phone you then drop in nearest deep body of water.

  15. Brochettaward   10 years ago

    “We always do that,” Smith said. “That’s the policy … to handcuff someone in a situation like that.”

    What, haven’t you people seen Halloween? How do the cops know this guy isn’t Michael Myers, or Jason Voorhees? Can you prove he’s not a supernatural killing machine?

    1. Brochettaward   10 years ago

      And good thing he’s white. Now the progressive media can ignore it.

      1. Monty Crisco   10 years ago

        Bingo.
        But they might use this to get that “assault towel” legislation moving…

        1. fleshy wavefunction   10 years ago

          Nobody needs a towel like that for hunting.

          1. fish   10 years ago

            What if you needed to wind the towel up and deliver a convincing snap!?

        2. masculistman   10 years ago

          If you use an assault towel to dry yourself that is proof that assault towels are fatal to wetness. Now Washington DC can get to work on towel control. If they outlaw towels only outlaws will have towels.

    2. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

      Speaking of people who should have been cuffed from behind, Javier Bardem’s character in No Country. You think he could have strangled that cop with his hands cuffed behind him?

      1. IceTrey   10 years ago

        That movie had the worst ending EVER.

        1. Jerryskids   10 years ago

          That movie had the most perfect ending ever. Listen to what Tommy Lee Jones was telling you the whole movie. The story doesn’t begin and end with you; you came in somewhere in the middle of the story and you’ll go out somewhere in the middle of the story and the story will just keep rolling along, never knowing you’ve even been there.

          1. commodious spittoon   10 years ago

            Maybe the television was broke.

          2. IceTrey   10 years ago

            After an hour and a half of chasing the protagonist dies off screen!

            1. Monty Crisco   10 years ago

              Watch “the counselor” for EVEN MORE deplorably nihilistic storytelling from Cormac made into a movie…

  16. Warrren   10 years ago

    So now we can add fabric to the list of things that cause cops to be scared shitless.

    Towels, dogs, unarmed old people, unarmed homeless people, remote controls, phones, tiny knives, unarmed people in beds, unarmed babies in cribs, unarmed people in cars, unarmed people next to cars, unarmed people who can’t hear them, unarmed people who can’t see them, cameras, unarmed teenage girls in cars that are trying to drive past, unarmed men who are just standing there, unarmed men who decline to get involved in a drug deal, unarmed men holding wallets, unarmed teenagers that flash their headlights,….I’m tired now but I’m sure there’s more.

    1. Brochettaward   10 years ago

      I’m waiting for a story of them shooting someone with no arms at all and say they thought he had a gun or was reaching for one.

    2. Pathogen   10 years ago

      Wheelchair bound double amputees, holding pencils..

      1. Brochettaward   10 years ago

        *sigh*

    3. fleshy wavefunction   10 years ago

      So now we can add fabric to the list of things that cause cops to be scared shitless.

      You forgot dogs. Everybody’s dogs. All the time. No exceptions. Killing dogs is like their ‘rule 34’, if there’s a situation where a dog was present, they killed it. Again, no exceptions.

      1. Warrren   10 years ago

        I say to you, sir, that forgetting dogs is not a thing I did! Look to my list and see that dogs are in the second place upon it!

        1. fleshy wavefunction   10 years ago

          AHHHHH! Don’t drink and comment, kids.

          1. C. R. Harris   10 years ago

            Always drink, commenting is optional.

      2. Bronwyn   10 years ago

        And if you miss the dog, hit a 4 year-old.

    4. Vernon Depner   10 years ago

      You forgot waistbands. If you want to be safe, never wear pants.

      1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

        I never wear pants, ever.

    5. VG Zaytsev   10 years ago

      Don’t forget water nozels.

    6. EMD   10 years ago

      Add 4 year-olds

      http://www.dispatch.com/conten…..oting.html

      1. Bronwyn   10 years ago

        Look up, my friend.

      2. masculistman   10 years ago

        Where did they find some of their commenters? Police One?

  17. Raven Nation   10 years ago

    I remember the days when someone carrying a towel would be greeted by the words, “there’s a frood who really knows where his towel is.”

  18. l0b0t   10 years ago

    OT – So I liked the ALF (Association of Libertarian Feminists) DerpBook page after seeing it mention earlier by ENB… HOLY MACKEREL, that is some high-speed derp; they are reposting SPLC links, crowing about Google caving to demands for censorship, and pimping screeds from Feministing extolling the virtue of that nutcase who carried her bed around college. To be fair, there are also articles about asset forfeiture and police abuse but the mental gymnastics required to maintain that level of cognitive dissonance seems to have left those ladies ideologically addled.

    1. Crusty Juggler   10 years ago

      Alf ate cats! They are aligning themselves with a cat-eating monster.

      1. l0b0t   10 years ago

        I’m dyin’ over here; I haven’t thought about that show in 20+ years.

        1. Jordan   10 years ago

          RIP buddy.

          1. Warrren   10 years ago

            He’s not your buddy, pendejo.

        2. masculistman   10 years ago

          Alf was on O’Reilly recently.

      2. DenverChipper   10 years ago

        I have eaten a puss or two, myself.

    2. l0b0t   10 years ago

      Here is recent comment that mentions our lovely magazine.

      “But Reason is worth reading when Elizabeth Nolan Brown writes or sometimes when Nick Gillespie does. But yeah, they do have aa lot of crackpots writing. Like Robbie Soave and and that other guy who is a marxist.“

      1. SIV   10 years ago

        “But Reason is worth reading when Elizabeth Nolan Brown writes or sometimes when Nick Gillespie does.

        Pretty much says it all right there

      2. Galactic Chipper Cdr Lytton   10 years ago

        hat other guy who is a marxist

        Which one is that?

    3. Acosmist   10 years ago

      It’s almost as if ENB is a SJW.

    4. masculistman   10 years ago

      Feminists are no friends of libertarians while MRA’s are. MRA’s believe that the government should not be so oppressive just as libertarians do. I am both a libertarian and an MRA and their is a lot of libertarian activism on my blogs: http://mensrightsboard.blogspot.com/ and http://thoughtsofamascman.blogspot.com/

      1. masculistman   10 years ago

        Not only that but feminism is more similar to Nazism than anything else: http://mensrightsboard.blogspo…..uotes.html
        http://mensrightsboard.blogspo…..tes-2.html

  19. IceTrey   10 years ago

    The guy was injured and was looking for help.

    http://www.latimes.com/local/l…..story.html

    1. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

      It’s Dorner all over again. Large black man, tiny Asian women. Whatever.

      The pants-shitting cowards will see what they want to see.

      The shooting in Los Feliz was one of two Friday in which LAPD officers shot a man who was partially concealed by a blanket or towel. Earlier in the day, LAPD officials said, officers wounded a man in El Monte after he got out of a car covered in a blanket and then brandished a gun. The man, who was critically wounded, had led officers on a two-hour chase that began in South L.A. after he allegedly assaulted a woman.

    2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      So the rule is “if I can’t see it, it must be a gun”?

      Does that mean I need to wa;kl around with my dick hanging out of my pants, just in case the cop sees a bulge and, since he can’t see it, deduces that it must be a gun?

      “Based on the video, the officers and the injured man all appear to be white.”
      Phew, at least the people shooting each other look the same.

  20. Episiarch   10 years ago

    This is probably the most hands-down perfect example yet of how any encounter with the police, even when you are directly asking for their assistance, can lead to them beating or killing you. They’re just cani arrabbiati at this point, and need to be treated the same way.

    1. fleshy wavefunction   10 years ago

      Protect ‘n’ Serve!!!

    2. deepspeed   10 years ago

      As egregious as this case is, I would still have to place it below the death of Jonathan Ferrell. He was the guy gunned down in Charlotte a couple of years ago when he approached cops for help following a car accident.

  21. l0b0t   10 years ago

    OT – Has anyone tried Squeez Bacon? Is it worth checking out?

    http://www.thinkgeek.com/stuff…..bacon.html

    1. Warrren   10 years ago

      I’d like to see some pigs stuffed into tubes.

      1. fleshy wavefunction   10 years ago

        Gotta grind ’em up first.

    2. fleshy wavefunction   10 years ago

      The label on that thing seems to imply that the “bacon” becomes solid after it… Congeals? I doubt that’s the case. While I’m wildly speculating about a product I do not intend to purchase, I bet this is a great way to get that bacon burger taste without all the trouble of actually using bacon. Thank God! This goes right up there with the mixed PBJ squirt bottles.

    3. Rhywun   10 years ago

      Can’t tell if real. But I do prefer my bacon crispy, not “smooth”.

      1. l0b0t   10 years ago

        For eating as strips or crumbling into grits and such, I like crispy but for sandwiches I like to go a little softer so it doesn’t all fall away. Have I ever mentioned the best bacon Earth? I’m sure I have but I will again because it is just that delicious. Peter Luger Steakhouse in Brooklyn has the best bacon on Earth. It is very thick cut (a wee bit more than a quarter inch) and cooked in the salamander for 45 seconds at 1300?.

        1. Rhywun   10 years ago

          Crispy only for me, in any situation. I happen to live in Brooklyn so I’ll remember that, but 1/4 inch?? Holy crap.

          1. Rhywun   10 years ago

            Which is one reason I like Five Guys, FWIW. Their bacon is always crispy.

            1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

              Been to 5 Guys once. Very good burger but thought it quite overpriced for what it was. Fast food atmosphere for almost double the price. It wasn’t THAT good.

              1. Rhywun   10 years ago

                Problem is they nickel and dime you to death. If you don’t add bacon or cheese or fries it’s a good enough deal.

              2. Juice   10 years ago

                Five Guys used to be better and cheaper.

            2. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

              That’s actually why I *don’t* like their bacon. It’s too crisp. Almost burnt.

              Otherwise, their burgers are like meaty, meaty crack.

          2. l0b0t   10 years ago

            Please, please, please go and have the bacon. Actually, get a burger too. Their burgers are the best kept secret in the city. All the steak trimmings get ground up and made into burgers, the burgers are only $11.00. If you go for lunch on Saturdays, there is no dress code, no reservations needed, and if you get there early enough (and don’t want a yummy burger), there is often prime rib still available (it sells out quickly).

  22. Warrren   10 years ago

    Let’s add:
    Kids at a pool. Nope, a different one from the incident in Texas.

    1. Warrren   10 years ago

      This was supposed to follow on to my first post..

  23. Damien   10 years ago

    Sorry but my story is 4 aces to your dog from every town story:

    http://www.lawofficer.com/arti…..sport.html

    1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

      That is very tragic but that has nothing to do with this story. Being a cop is a dangerous profession but that doesn’t give them any right to abuse their power. If they can’t handle that then they should find other work. There are certainly plenty of cops who can deal with the stress without viewing those they are sworn to serve and protect as the enemy. Too many asshole cops and too little accountability hurts everyone including the good cops who I like to think are in the majority.

      1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

        And then there are the policies and procedures themselves which seem to never include de-escalation and always including escalation and overreaction. Maybe not everywhere but certainly in too many major metropolitan areas. LA definitely being one of them.

        1. Seamus   10 years ago

          Definitely not everywhere.

      2. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

        Being a cop is a dangerous profession but that doesn’t give them any right to abuse their power.

        Not even in the top 10.

        I don’t see Damien sucking the dicks of garbage men for their sacrifice.

        1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

          They don’t make TV shows about garbage men. Not on TV? Then you don’t get a blowjob.

          1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

            So, you’re saying that I need to get on TV…

          2. l0b0t   10 years ago

            “They don’t make TV shows about garbage men.“

            Actually they do, but only about garbage men in outer space.

            “Quark is an American science fiction situation comedy starring Richard Benjamin broadcast on NBC. The pilot first aired on May 7, 1977, and the series followed as a mid-season replacement in February 1978. The series was cancelled in April 1978. Quark was created by Buck Henry, co-creator of the spy spoof Get Smart. The show was set on a United Galaxy Sanitation Patrol Cruiser, an interstellar garbage scow operating out of United Galaxies Space Station Perma One in the year 2226. Adam Quark, the main character, works to clean up trash in space by collecting “space baggies” with his trusted and highly unusual crew.“

            http://tinyurl.com/qbfctt4

    2. Chumby   10 years ago

      Damien

      Nice non-sequitor to try and divert attention from some LEOs that need to be charged with assault with a deadly weapon, wrongful imprisonment, and attempted murder.

  24. Robert   10 years ago

    I’m thinking about what I would do if a policeman said in my direction to drop the gun & I wasn’t carrying one. My 1st thought would probably be, “Somebody’s got a gun out!” So I’d drop to the ground.

  25. Jerry on the sea   10 years ago

    Is it also standard LAPD procedure to aim for the head?

    1. Rhywun   10 years ago

      That is what bothers me the most about these stories. I am not a gun expert but I am pretty sure there are options other than “always shoot to kill”.

      1. Brochettaward   10 years ago

        It is standard protocol that if you are going to fire, you shoot to kill. A person hit in the knee or ankle can still pull a trigger. I have no issue with that part.

        The problem is how quickly they escalate to the use of deadly force.

        1. C. R. Harris   10 years ago

          Sure, but headshots are still discouraged. You’re likely to miss and send bullets flying wildly towards whatever ifs behind your target. Shooting center mass is sop.

          1. DK   10 years ago

            ^This. But, the police don’t give a shit about collateral damage and emptying their guns increase the odds of hitting their target.

          2. Don'tTreadOnMeChipper   10 years ago

            He probably had his fucking eyes closed and was lucky to hit anything.

        2. Rhywun   10 years ago

          It is standard protocol that if you are going to fire, you shoot to kill.

          Then they should not be carrying guns on routine patrol.

          1. MarkLastname   10 years ago

            Yeah probably not. Maybe one thing the Europeans do right. Most London cops don’t carry guns, right?

            Some city should try this: stratify police according to their purpose and only have some portion of them carry guns in cases of violent conflict in the vicinity so they can come as backup; have the ones doing patrol just carry nightsticks and/or tasers.

            One doesn’t need to be a genius to anticipate that the mortality rate of cops (and the crime rate) would most likely not be affected at all; in fact may even decline.

            Oddly enough this may be one purpose for which one of those leftarded metropolises like San Francisco may actually be good for; they might go for it.

      2. JeremyR   10 years ago

        There really aren’t. If you are going to shoot someone, you should shoot to kill, period.

        However, you shouldn’t be shooting someone unless your life is in danger. Instead, cops seem to panic and shot at the drop of a hat. Or towel.

        Of course, some of it is that they’ve been told that so and such has a gun and assume anyone they confront is dangerous. That’s part of the problem, people being hysterical and reporting people with objects that aren’t guns (or are actual guns but not being used in a dangerous fashion). But a lot of it is cops just overreacting/panicking.

    2. Jerryskids   10 years ago

      If they shot the guy in the head it’s a pretty safe bet they weren’t aiming at his head. Even odds they were aiming at someone else entirely.

  26. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

    It would be much less dangerous asking a motorcycle or street gang for help than a cop. Hell, they might even actually help you. Seems like there is a lesson there.

  27. Cloudbuster   10 years ago

    Flag down the cops, get shot. Beautiful.

    “Drop the gun, drop the gun.”

    It’s really hard to drop a gun when you don’t have a gun. I imagine that for a brief moment, the guy felt like that poor sod in ED-209 demo scene in the original Robocop. “Drop your weapon. You have 20 seconds to comply.” Oh, except unlike the murderous, out-of-control robot, the police didn’t give their victim 20 seconds to comply.

    I hear the victim’s name is Arthur Dent.

    No courthouse steps were involved in the production of this comment.

    1. Brochettaward   10 years ago

      If the towel was rapped around a cut, it’s likely there was no way to comply by the time they shot. Even discounting any initial confusion.

    2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      So, I guess I should always carry a weapon with me then, just in case I get stopped by the police and they ask me to drop my gun, so I have something to drop?

  28. dinkster   10 years ago

    So, never ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever ever call the police.

    1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

      Correct

    2. A special place in JW's Hell   10 years ago

      EVER

      1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

        Ok, I’ma tell ya a story. Yesterday,I was coming home from work, and left my knapsack on the train. I thought about trying to chase it, but that wouldn’t work. I could wait, and check all the E trains coming back, yeah good luck. Wait, could I call someone?
        I saw a RTD cop, and, despite my better judgment, asked him for help.
        He got on the radio, found a cop 15 minutes up line, told him the description and what car.
        A passenger had found it, and gave it to the cop, who gave it to the conductor of the next train paying my way, and I had my bag back in about 40 minutes.
        And nothing else happened!
        And,I will add, that I had a container of Mary Jane, lethal in this state now, but still, my pipe, a knife, and various work gadgets that could be interpreted as dangerous.
        Kudos to the RTD police, and proof that every cop is a dick. They just cover for the ones who are.

        1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

          * going, not paying.

          1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

            * also, legal, not lethal, although the potency of this stuff out here is getting close

            1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

              * and of course, “proof that not every cop is a dick…”

              1. Chumby   10 years ago

                Smoked up before you posted, eh?

  29. Paul.   10 years ago

    “This person extended an arm wrapped in a towel. The officer exited the vehicle and said, ‘Drop the gun, drop the gun,'” LAPD Lt. John Jenal said.

    I always yell that when I’m coaching Jr. Girl’s soccer. You know, to cover my bases.

  30. Paul.   10 years ago

    Smith seems to think “suicide-by-cop”?where a person intent on ending his own life deliberately

    AKA calling 911.

  31. Robert   10 years ago

    The shootee is now being treated officially as a suspect, because he was shot by police. I mean, he must be, right? A suspect in…they don’t say what was suspected.

    1. Juvenile Bluster   10 years ago

      Suspected of not being a cop. It’s a death penalty offense seemingly.

    2. MarkLastname   10 years ago

      He is suspected of being suspicious.

      1. pan fried wylie   10 years ago

        The most suspective of offenses!

        1. pan fried wylie   10 years ago

          suspoffenses*

          1. Chumby   10 years ago

            Suboxone?

    3. Cloudbuster   10 years ago

      Theft of police property: one bullet.

  32. Harold1   10 years ago

    How much longer as a nation will we permit these towels to be owned, carried, and displayed in public? No other developed nation has this towel issue that we in the USA keep dealing with.

    1. Paul.   10 years ago

      Nobody needs two kitchen towels.

    2. Old Man With Gag Order   10 years ago

      What this country is clearly demanding is common-sense towel control laws.

    3. Chumby   10 years ago

      Goddam National Towel Association (NTA) lobby interferes with common sense towel control.

  33. MarkLastname   10 years ago

    Frankly, this seems to be more evidence that protocol needs to be rehashed than that the cops aren’t following protocol.

    Also,

    “…in very, very bad.”

    in very, very bad what?

    1. pan fried wylie   10 years ago

      Shape. The Answer we were looking for was, Shape. Thanks for playing, enjoy the home version of the game and this branded towel.

  34. Warty   10 years ago

    Don’t talk to the police. I guess that now includes waving at them when you need help.

  35. DaFelon   10 years ago

    So let me get this straight…A citizen flags down a cop, the cop immediately shoots him, then says he was probably trying to commit suicide by cop. You evil bastards need to hang!

    1. Don'tTreadOnMeChipper   10 years ago

      And by “hang”, Daf means to come hang around this thread for awhile and learn what stupid cowardly cunts you are….

    2. Vapourwear   10 years ago

      #dontsupboenamebro

      1. Vapourwear   10 years ago

        AAAAAND the typo ruins it…

        edit feature, reason, edit feature

        1. OneOut   10 years ago

          Reason already has an edit feature.

          It’s called proofreading.

      2. MSimon   10 years ago

        Please Keep The Comments In Bounds

      3. DenverChipper   10 years ago

        Oh my god, I for cereal LOLed.

        1. DenverChipper   10 years ago

          To the hashtag joke by Vapourwear

    3. RCJP   10 years ago

      Immediately? You reached this conclusion based on what evidence?

  36. ant1sthenes   10 years ago

    People need to be taught the rules of cop safety. Always treat a cop as if it is loaded (with steroids and meth). Never point a cop at anything (that includes yourself) you don’t want to be destroyed.

  37. RCJP   10 years ago

    Because no one ever killed a cop after flagging one down. And no one ever killed a cop so the cops would kill him:

    http://www.cincinnati.com/stor…../29027669/

    1. Jerryskids   10 years ago

      This is exactly why I’m trying to get my hands on some Stinger missiles, to shoot down every plane I see because that one time hijackers flew a plane into some buildings and killed a bunch of people. If I can’t see the plane passengers hands, how do I know they’re not planning on hijacking the plane and flying it into a tall building? Better safe than sorry; the cops taught me that one.

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  39. Dusty Relic   10 years ago

    Police should not be allowed to carry weapons while on duty.

  40. FloridaProf   10 years ago

    Once again, Reason does not disappoint: always looking to demonize our police. I guess this is one area where Libertarians and the Left find themselves in agreement.

    1. rudehost   10 years ago

      So in your view there is no problem with the constant stream of stories like this. He probably got what he had coming to him?

    2. Chumby   10 years ago

      FloridaProf

      So you are ok with what happened? Really?

    3. philobeddoe   10 years ago

      Shooting a guy holding a towel?

  41. rudehost   10 years ago

    “One of the key questions, he said, was why the man flagged down the two uniformed officers.”

    Funny the key question to me is why they shot a guy in the head for carrying a towel.

  42. Hank Phillips   10 years ago

    Always do what? Shoot people for no reason? Call it suicide? Call it justified? Handcuff the dead or unconscious victim? All of the above?

  43. Andre Leonard   10 years ago

    “We always do that,” Smith said. “That’s the policy … to handcuff someone in a situation like that.”

    Sounds like a pretty ‘crappy’ policy to me. Considering there was no mention of a weapon made by anyone until the ‘officers’ said ‘drop your gun’. Which in fact there was none.

    The LAPD has been failing miserably in the area of public safety and as such, the public has much to fear from these rouge officers. All I see here is an act of unprovoked police violence on an innocent member of the public who had the misfortune to ‘flag-down’ down the police.

  44. Chumby   10 years ago

    The guy might have posted something online be about a woodchipper.

  45. Russell   10 years ago

    It’s all Douglas Adam’s fault:

    Another damned dirty towel carrier!

  46. philobeddoe   10 years ago

    you have got to be kidding me

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    Google pay 97$ per hour my last pay check was $8500 working 1o hours a week online. My younger brother friend has been averaging 12k for months now and he works about 22 hours a week. I cant believe how easy it was once I tried it out.
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  48. ULOST   10 years ago

    Deadeye Dick quickly observed a motel logo on the towel thereby exposing the man as a motel towel thief. Shooting justified. Case closed; however, Dick you can finish out your paid vacation. You earned it.

  49. jmg09   10 years ago

    Its not even Towel Day.

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