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Jerry Seinfeld: Comedians Say Don't Go Near Colleges, Political Correctness Hurts Comedy

'They don't even know what they're talking about.'

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Jerry Seinfeld
Tonight Show

It sounds like Jerry Seinfeld agrees with Chris Rock that American college students have developed an allergy to good comedy. In an interview with ESPN Radio's Colin Cowherd, he had this to say:

"I don't play colleges but I hear a lot of people tell me, 'Don't go near colleges, they're so pc.' Hey, I'll give you an example. My daughter's 14. My wife says to her, 'Well, you know, in the next couple of years, I think maybe you're going to want to hang around the city more on the weekends so you can see boys.' You know, my daughter says, 'That's sexist.' They just want to use these words. 'That's racist. That's sexist. That's prejudice.' They don't even know what they're talking about."

When asked by Cowherd if knee-jerk offendedness hurts comedy, Seinfeld responded, "Yes, it does."

One of the supposed benefits of college is being able to connect with a lot of other smart people, and having the chance to interact with experts, artists, musicians, and policymakers who are invited to speak or participate in events on campus. As a student at the University of Michigan, for instance, I was able to meet several fascinating characters, including '60s radical Bill Ayers and lolcats founder Ben Huh. I also chatted with Pulitzer Prize-winning Washington Post columnist Eugene Robinson and listened to Rep. Ron Paul give an awesome campaign speech. I didn't like or agree with all of these people, but the experience was deeply enriching, and that's the entire point of college. That's what you're paying for.

How sad, then, that some students' hostility to new or troubling ideas has comedians (understandably) convinced that campuses aren't worth their time.

Hat tip: Breitbart News

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125 responses to “Jerry Seinfeld: Comedians Say Don't Go Near Colleges, Political Correctness Hurts Comedy

  1. They just want to use these words

    Exactly

    1. I notice you didn’t use a period, Scruffy.
      Do you have something against periods?
      Periods are a natural part of womanhood, and by not using periods you are othering women, Scruffy.
      Why are you so sexist?

      /Sensitivity Instructor

      1. On the contrary, periods are an artifact of cis-patriarchal genetics. If you aren’t against periods, then you accept the current regime of women being forced to bear children against their collective will.

        1. You know, I like the fact that we don’t have to spend our entire days hunting and foraging for food, protecting ourselves from predators and generally busting our asses.

          On the other hand, all this free time doesn’t seem to be working out for a good chunk of the population. They don’t seem to be using it wisely.

          1. “…protecting ourselves from predators…”

            That is a myth. Every species spends the vast majority of their defenses against members of their own species. That is where the real competition is, and that is what is going on here. We have the fire and wheel stuff down pretty well but we still prey on each other like mad.

            1. Excellent point.

            2. but we still prey on each other like mad.

              We call that government.

          2. Tundra! I drink and day trade. I know it’s a bad combination, but. . . All mine!!

        2. It’s OK, Scruffy is just going through manopause.

          1. Is it that apparent?

            *hops in red miata, combs hair over*

            1. “driving the red miata”, the latest in menstrual euphemisms.

              1. I have a new understanding of Prince’s Little Red Corvette now.

      2. Charles,
        Are you suggesting that women are somehow different from men?
        Why are you so man-centric?

        1. External genitalia privilege.

      3. Just because someone was assigned to have periods at birth by culture and society, doesn’t mean they must maintain the status-quo as dictated by the Patriarchy!

        1. *man-tain, *phallus-quo

        2. They have shots for everything these days.

          1. “They have shots for everything these days.”

            They have shots for shots?

    2. Yep, it’s the equivalent of a 6 year old using profanity.

      1. I dunno, I kinda think that’s just how profanity works. I say “fuck” because it’s just a very phonologically accurate expression of my emotional state at that moment.

        1. The dutch seem to have some especial ability to translate gutteral noises into something both sensible and incredibly offensive.

          1. A steady dose of Dutch profanity is exactly what our college campuses need.

            Work the English translations of “vieze vuile kankerslet” or “vuile smerige teringhoer” or “smerige typhus flikker” into everyday undergraduate slang, and watch how fast the SJW’s will stop caring about incorrect personal pronouns.

  2. Ya know, the entire process is just one small step from a Klein bottle, whereby everyone of these twits will disappear up their own assholes.

  3. What’s the deal with kids today?

    Does today’s college student not watch South Park?

    1. Yes they do, they just don’t understand it.

      1. Are you calling college kids apes? Cuz I’ll report your ass to racism enforcement.

      2. ASSHOLE!

    2. Are you kidding? It’s far too triggering.

  4. I thought Jerry Seinfeld’s wife was 14.

    1. Jerry Seinfeld is not Woody Allen.

      1. not all middle aged jewish has beens are the same. jeez.

  5. “And whaaaat’s the deal with college?”

    1. “Why would anyone pay $40,000 a year to be treated like infants? Any Jewish mother will do it for free!”

      1. That’s the reason you won’t get a gig at Wassamatta U!

  6. For our next draft, we should only take college students.

    1. If we want the enemy to roll over our forces like they weren’t even there.

      1. When is the last time we fought a war where that would actors be a disaster for us?

        1. Well, I was assuming it would be war that was actually justified and worth fighting. Unlikely, I know.

    2. So they can find out what being triggered actually feels like! I’m on board with this plan.

  7. You know who else hung around people who firebombed government buildings?

    1. Gordon Freeman?

    2. Kurt Vonnegut?

      1. Can you read lips Kurt? FUCK YOU.

    3. Peter King?

    4. Lyman Lemnitzer?

    5. Francis Tresham?

    6. Your mother?

    7. Airline passengers?

  8. I’m sure you’d be fine if you stuck to jokes about Republicans and white men.

    1. A Self-Identified $park?|6.5.15 @ 12:23PM|#
      “I’m sure you’d be fine if you stuck to jokes about Republicans and white men.”

      Every time the local rag covers some comedy ‘fair’, they focus on an unknown who is really, really doing “edgy” material!
      Yep.
      Hitch’s response to Stewart’s audience ought to be on everyone’s phone.

      1. I thought it was Bill Maher’s audience. Same difference.

  9. Funny thing I noticed with my middle-schooler and her friends: Somehow, “You’re racist/sexist/-ist” has turned into a “Yo Mama” joke. “You’re racist!” *cue mad laughter* *resume bullying*

    1. That seems like a good thing.

      1. Yes. I am very pleased. Asshole tweens will asshole tween, and the language becomes irrelevant.

        1. Mine (13yo) is with me at the office today. She is wearing a shirt that says “High Functioning Soiciopath”.

          The kids are allright.

          1. That’s from “Sherlock” right?

            1. Yes, her favorite show.

          2. Thank Tumblr and good memes.

    2. i teach middle school and i can vouch that this is what is happening.

  10. Relevant: Total idiot at TNR argues trigger warnings make sense and compares people whining about trigger warnings to soldiers suffering from PTSD.

    “It’s easy to caricature the vanguard of the so-called politically correct: to paint them as fanatics who are trying to destroy well-established norms of free speech. But they are not caricatures; they are products of history. Most current college students grew up in the shadow of September 11, with the specter of large-scale terrorism always looming and with a steady stream of soldiers returning home to grapple with their demons. It is no wonder that they feel that they, too, deserve security, even in the precarious and flimsy form of trigger warnings and safe spaces.”

    1. We are so doomed as a species.

      1. No, just doomed as a civilization. Eastern style despotism is going to make a spectacular comeback and western style decentralization will die, slowly at first and turning to an avalanche.

        1. I’ll have to go back and read Chung Kuo again.

          1. Interesting. I didn’t mean eastern as in China, but “eastern” like historians would use to describe political cultures where political leaders were literally worshiped as divine beings.

            1. You mean like Roman culture?

    2. with the specter of large-scale terrorism always looming

      Citation needed

      1. The Specter, not The-Actual-Threat-of-

        so, technically correct.

      2. To call it terrorism it must be small-scale. If its large-scale we call it government.

    3. It’s no wonder? Let’s send them to Syria, then they can have their trigger warnings.

    4. well-established norms of free speech.

      didn’t read past.

      1. You didn’t miss much. He spends the ENTIRE ARTICLE talking about the history of PTSD, which has nothing whatsoever to do with modern collegiate claims about trigger warnings.

        1. He uses the word “whine” when in relation to people pushing back on trigger warnings, when the entire idea of demanding a trigger warning is, by definition, a whine.

    5. It’s easy to caricature the vanguard of the so-called politically correct:

      Actually, its become almost impossible.

      to paint them as fanatics who are trying to destroy well-established norms of free speech.

      That’s more like photographing them than painting them. Its not a caricature; its who they are.

    6. Here’s your trigger warning:

      “Stop whining or I’ll pull this trigger!”

      1. I always thought a trigger warning was a statement to the effect of “mind your trigger discipline” before we rolled out the gate…

    7. a steady stream of soldiers returning home to grapple with their demons.

      Oh, fer fuck’s sake. The majority, probably the vast majority of college students have never met a combat veteran, or if they did they didn’t realize it because he wasn’t a kill-crazed PTSD case.

      A complete idiot, still trafficking in post-Vietnam leftoid fantasies, gussied up for kids-these-days.

      1. And still, Vietnam-era students didn’t need trigger warnings. Nor did Korea-era, WWII-era, etc. etc. We really are raising a generation of pussies.

      2. The other thing is that ‘trigger warnings’ and avoiding things that make you feel bad are not accepted treatments for PTSD. So even if you bought the idea that this is an outgrowth of PTSD, then that means students are basically self-medicating in a way completely contrary to what they would actually be told to do by a psychiatrist.

        And Jeet Heer is cheerleading this idiocy.

        1. In fact, efforts to avoid anxiety-provoking stimuli inevitably worsen anxiety; the more triggers you try to avoid, the less it takes to trigger you and the worse you react when it happens.

          Therapy that encourages trigger avoidance is basically quackery.

    8. What does the specter of terrorism have to do with Ovid and his story of Persephone?

    9. Free blue (Linus) blankets for all!

      1. And Leo Bloom blue blankies as well. It’s probably best to double up with this level of emotional vulnerability.

    10. Look at the headlines on the sidebar of the article

      “For Boys, Moving to a Wealthier Neighborhood Is as Traumatic as Going to War””

      “”My Students Need Trigger Warnings?and Professors Do, Too””

      “”Life Is “Triggering.” The Best Literature Should Be, Too””

      “”The Science of Suffering””

      it makes my vagina hurt

    11. Did this person even think for two seconds before writing this drivel? Somehow, life is far more difficult for this generation? Give me a break. My parents generation had the large-scale actual issue of growing up in the Dust Bowl, and with the “specter” of WW2. My generation grew up with the actual issue of the Vietnam War and the “specter” of all-out nuclear war (I remember those duck and cover civil service drills in school – like they would have done any good).

      We were also told we should be seen but not heard. Apparently parents are not invoking that, anymore.

  11. That’s what you’re paying for.

    That’s what you paid for Robby. What most people pay for is a piece of paper and a good time. And for some people, being perpetually offended is a good time because it gets them attention and make then feel important

    1. Well think about the psychology that was inflicted on the current crop of 20 something younglings.

      They get a world class education on the subject of victimology and view society through that lens. And whether subconsciously or not, these kids know that victim status confers advantage so they start establishing their own narratives of victimhood and wear it on their sleeves for the prestige. And the young white males for their part, find some social advantage in confessing their original sin, repudiating their forefathers and celebrating the fashionable victim groups.

      1. The only proper response I have when I get approached by an SJW is mockery. Never apologize to one of them, because it’s not enough. Like that guy with the T-Shirt. He apologized, but that was not enough to satisfy their egos. An apology only serves to make you look vulnerable.

  12. So last night my girlfriend and I saw The Kids in the Hall perform live in Phoenix. Great show, they’re all still hysterically funny after 25 years.

    And yet I can’t imagine Scott Thompson’s ‘Buddy Cole’ monologues or the ‘Running Faggot’ sketch they did going over well on a college campus. They love to use the word faggot too much.

    1. Does all the crossdressing get them points for being subversive or does it fall under trans-misogyny?

      1. Their opening sketch was called “We’re Men Who Wear Wedding Dresses” in which, sure enough, they walk onto stage in wedding dresses.

        PROBLEMATIC.

        And all the domestic sketches they do like the Salty Ham sketchy with Fran and Gordon perpetuates misogyny and harmful gender stereotypes.

        1. “I’m crushing your head!”

    2. Heard them in an interview on CBC a few days ago.

      Scott, Bruce and Dave all agreed people are quickly outraged now making comedy more difficult.

      And no one did drag better than TKITH. Except, of course, for Bugs Bunny.

      Good show, eh? My wife and I went to a couple of those in the 90s and 2000s and opted out this time.

    3. But you would agree Paris is the capital of France?

      Yes.

      Good then we’re back in agreement.

    4. Saw them a couple of years ago at the Warner Theater in DC.

  13. Comedy is incongruity, you humorless ninnies. That’s why we find pratfalls and slapstick funny. It’s also why off-color jokes related in undertones can be humorous without being bigoted: it plays the expectation of propriety against commonly understood stereotypes. It’s why jokes involving ugly subjects can be humorous without endorsing them: it plays the expectation of compassion against the bad taste of a terrible thing.

    1. More briefly, the basis of humor is pain.

      Sometimes its the way we share and alleviate pain – other times it is how we inflict it.

      1. “Tragedy is when I cut my little finger. Comedy is when I walk into an open manhole and die” – Mel Brooks (I believe)

        1. I think it goes – Comedy is when YOU fall into an open manhole and die

          1. When its YOUR open manhole

      2. No, he said it briefly enough: comedy is incongruity. A pun can be funny, and has nothing to do with pain. It’s all playing off of expectations.

        1. So when Congress is in session should that be a trigger warning or should I be laughing and thank them for the jolly good chuckles?

  14. “They don’t know what they’re talking about”

    Did he actually talk to his daughter about it? If not, he’s doing her a disservice. 14 is still young and impressionable.

    1. I’d also add that talking to my dad about politics growing up had a big impact on my views.

      1. My father talked like a fascist-anarchist but always voted liberal.

        He looked at me in deranged awe when I told him I voted for Mulroney back in the day.

      2. Same here. Then I grew up and got my own views since his were inconsistent

      3. I remember asking my dad about the ERA, assuming he was for it, because who would be against such a thing as equal rights for chicks? I was shocked when he said he was against it, and I got a lesson in principles. That’s when I started to become a libertarian, but I didn’t know it until I was well into my 20s.

  15. As a student at the University of Michigan, for instance, I was able to meet several fascinating characters, including ’60s radical Bill Ayers and lolcats founder Ben Huh.

    Your little progressive thing is hanging out of your pants again, Robby.

    I realize that you’re probably saying Bill Ayers was ‘fascinating’ in the same way Time Magazine meant it when they named Hitler ‘Man of The Year’. But then you put that ‘fascination’ in the same category of meeting an internet entrepreneur, who is in all liklihood not a former terrorist and current would-be Stalinist.

  16. What’s so fascinating about Bill Ayers?

    I’ve come across a gazillion Bill Ayers in my life and they generally all annoyed me to the point of wanting to gag them with a creamsicle.

    1. I’ve come across a gazillion Bill Ayers in my life and they generally all annoyed me to the point of wanting to gag them with a creamsicle.

      Basically, if you look at his background, Ayers is the epitome of a spoiled rich kid acting out his daddy issues with everyone else’s lives. As you said, they’re basically a dime a dozen.

  17. Kids today are not growing up under the specter of 9/11.

    Now in my day, the possibility of the Russians annihilating us with ICBM’s was palpable.

    My third grade teacher told us that if we got the announcement that the Russians had launched their missiles, we kids would not have time to go home and say goodbye to our parents before we died. You think kids today get told things like that ?

    Oh, and get off my lawn.

  18. ” As a student at the University of Michigan, for instance, I was able…”

    You’re dead to me, Robby.

    1. The fact that he straddles the fence between the social justice crowd and libertarianism is just icing on the U of M shitcake.

  19. “‘Well, you know, in the next couple of years, I think maybe you’re going to want to hang around the city more on the weekends so you can see boys.’ You know, my daughter says, ‘That’s sexist.'”

    What’s wrong with sexy?

  20. My wife says to her, ‘Well, you know, in the next couple of years, I think maybe you’re going to want to hang around the city more on the weekends so you can see boys.’ You know, my daughter says, ‘That’s sexist.’

    And it sounds suspiciously like that’s the end of the conversation. Which means Seinfeld and his wife are both, basically, pushovers to their daughter.

    The fact that they’re letting their 14-year-old daughter dictate the moral high ground of their conversations tells me exactly where the social justice cadres are coming from.

  21. Actually, it sounds like the mom is suggesting that the daughter go downtown and catcall boys. So it’s empowering, what’s sexist about that?

  22. Billy Ayers probably invited Robbo to a swell Underground cocktail party. Lucky guy…

  23. They just want to use those words. That’s statist. That’s unconstitutional. That’s appealing to authority.

    Heck, they don’t even know what they’re talking about. Does knee jerk offendedness hurt libertarians?

    Yes, it does.

    1. ^This shitforbrains actually thinks Jerry Seinfeld is a libertarian.

      1. No…you are.

      2. By the way, your knee just jerked.

  24. I feel no pity. This was the world the liberals wanted. Now that the Revolution is eating its own, I say pass the mustard.

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