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In the City of Charlie Hebdo, Three Convicted for Contents of Tweets

Calling for the death of gay people is a hate crime in France.

Scott Shackford | 1.23.2015 10:45 AM

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Jacob Sullum noted the complicated, hair-splitting enforcement of France's laws against hate speech earlier in the week and in a previous column. To summarize: In France, citizens can get in trouble with the law for insulting, defaming, or inciting hatred or violence against others on the basis of race, ethnicity, sexual orientation, and other factors. But such laws rely on judges to determine whether or not speech is actually an incitement or an insult against ideas (legal!) or people (illegal!).

Using Twitter to call for gay people to be murdered, then, is obviously falling on the wrong side of this law. As such, three people were convicted of hate crimes in Paris for using Twitter hashtags that said "Let's burn the gays" and "gays must die." The two hashtags apparently were on Twitter's trending list in August 2013, which means a lot more than these three people were likely using them.

While the offenders were convicted, French gay activists were upset that the government didn't throw the book at them. From The Independent:

However, LGBT rights campaingers were disappointed by what they viewed as relatively light punishments, as the maximum punishment for such crimes is up to a year in prison and a €45,000 fine. One defendant was fined €300 [$335] while the other two were forced to pay €500 [$560], TheLocal.Fr reported.

Alexandre Marcel, president of the Comité Idaho, told The Local: "It's a small amount to pay for calling for the death of homosexuals."

A French LGBT activist group said in the story that anti-gay acts in France increased 78 percent in 2013. But given that France seems to equate hate speech with "acts" and criminalizes them and allows people to claim victimhood over what is said rather than what is done, it's hard to parse what that actually means.

Twitter previously had been resisting efforts by the government in France to reveal the identities of its users. As the Independent story notes, Twitter does cooperate with the country's hate speech laws by censoring tweets or trending topics when they violate French law. But they've resisted efforts by the government to require them to turn over the identities of users who break them. They lost their attempt to shield the identities of users who tweeted anti-Semitic statements in 2013 and subsequently handed over their names.

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Scott Shackford is a policy research editor at Reason Foundation.

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  1. DesigNate   10 years ago

    Yeah, those assholes should have gotten the guillotine!

    #howdaretheyshowtheworldwhatkindofassholestheyare

  2. Counterfly   10 years ago

    Well, look, obviously the state should decide what's acceptable speech and what's not. I mean these are trained technocrats, answerable to THE PEOPLE, not some crazed ultra-religious gunmen.

  3. Rich   10 years ago

    Alexandre Marcel, president of the Comit? Idaho, told The Local: "It's a small amount to pay for calling for the death of homosexuals."

    "Now we're merely haggling over the price."

    1. Tonio   10 years ago

      I fear Marcel far more than the entire Phelps clan.

  4. Doctor Whom   10 years ago

    OT: The Urban Institute discovers market distortion.

    http://datatools.urban.org/fea.....s/#feature

    Local policies can have an effect too. In some high-cost areas, restrictions on development that make housing too expensive could prompt young households to leave.

  5. Anonymous Coward   10 years ago

    France has a violent minority in its midst that has made parts of the country "no-go zones" for citizens and police (lol French police) and will respond to heckling with lethal force.

    But hey, let's take people to court for saying mean stuff on Twitter because, priorities.

    1. AlmightyJB   10 years ago

      Some animals are more equal than others

    2. Tonio   10 years ago

      You know who else talked about no-go zones?

      1. Libertarian   10 years ago

        Poland?

  6. ettajtonn   10 years ago

    my neighbor's ex-wife makes $62 every hour on the computer . She has been out of work for five months but last month her paycheck was $18411 just working on the computer for a few hours. try this site........
    ?????? http://www.cashbuzz80.com

    1. Libertarian   10 years ago

      $62 an hour? So she's a GS-15 in D.C.? Does she work in the mohair subsidies department?

      FROM WIKIPEDIA: By 2000, Congress had appropriated $20 million for goat and sheep producers.[11] As of 2002, mohair producers were still able to receive special assistance loans from the U.S. government, after an amendment to eliminate the subsidy was defeated.

  7. OldMexican   10 years ago

    In the City of Charlie Hebdo, Three Convicted for Contents of Tweets

    They Hate Us For Our Freedoms

    1. Libertarian   10 years ago

      Je Suis Twitter.

  8. Free Society   10 years ago

    The state is and always has been the only threat to free speech, not terrorists.

  9. TheZeitgeist   10 years ago

    Judging from reactions in the west to provocations from the camel-fuckers, they've found an asymmetric way to destroy a superpower. Couple more 9/11's and all the freedoms should be gone.

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