House GOP Drops Abortion Bill, Clinton Leads in Poll, Video Shows N.J. Cops Shoot Man Whose Arms Were Raised: A.M. Links

Speaker John Boehner/Flick

• House Republican leadership abandoned plans to ban abortion after five months after what Politico describes as "a revolt from a large swath of female members of Congress."
• Meanwhile, in the Senate, Republicans agreed in a symbolic vote that climate change exists but blocked language blaming human activity.
• The FBI has completed its investigation into Ferguson cop Darren Wilson's shooting of Michael Brown and, according to the Associated Press, officials say a federal civil rights charge is highly unlikely. 
• A dashcam video has been released in the New Jersey state trooper shooting of Jerame Reid, who was pulled over December 30 for running a stop sign. "The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," said Walter Hudson, chairman of civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance.
• In a new Washington Post-ABC News poll, Hillary Clinton held a double-digit lead over other potential 2016 presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney. 
• "Those comments were made long before I worked for Senator Paul," said "Libertarian Girl" Marianne Copenhaver, a blogger and activist hired to do social media for Paul, after conservatives went after her for old anti-war Facebook posts. 
• Hoosiers may soon be able to buy beer on Sunday. 

Comments

[Fist of Etiquette]

House Republican leadership abandoned plans to ban abortion...

Oh, Elizabeth...

[mr lizard]

One can dream that team Red will stop trying to charge Alpha Hill.

[Restoras]

Just goes to show there is no such thing as unbiased journalism.

[Zeb]

Particularly not from a magazine with a particular ideological point of view.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Hello.

Robot caregivers:

http://yhoo.it/1ywAIvG

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Think she could go a month week without writing about abortion?

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

No.

[Zeb]

It is sort of her job.

[sarcasmic]

Real women are transformed into glamorous pin-ups for feminist photo series which aims to prove that 'everyone can be a bombshell'
San Francisco-based photographer Sophie Spinelle founded Shameless Photography in 2009
The company offers a variety of photoshoot packages, which include pre-shoot sessions with a make-up artist and hair stylist

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....shell.html
By "Real" they mean "Fat." John?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I'm beginning to think you secretly like the chunkies.

[sarcasmic]

Nah. I like them built for speed. But I figure I'm doing a public service since many of the commenters seem to prefer them built for comfort.

[BardMetal]

How about just built like a woman instead of a young boy?

[sarcasmic]

Would you like some flour?

[Restoras]

He'll need a flour mill for those women.

[Zeb]

At the risk of being a horrible misogynist for comparing women to cars, I'll take a taut yet smooth riding grand tourer over either a squishy Cadillac or a hard, unyielding track car.

[R C Dean]

Excellent analogy, Zeb.

[John]

You are not the only one Nerfherder. For someone who claims not to like fat women, he sure spends a lot of time browsing pictures of them.

[RBS]

Only fat chicks with a persecution complex are real women these days? Also, the one in the wheel chair, do you think she's actually handicapped or is it a prop?

[sarcasmic]

Maybe she's too fat to walk.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Wait, you have been in the Meijer or the Wal-Mart down the road from my house?!

[Illocust]

Legs aren't atrophied enough for that chair to be a full time thing, but its possible she may only need it for long distances. Both my brother and I were in that situation in the younger years of our disabilities.

Probably its just a prop though. These are all the best of the best pics and not your average women.

[WTF]

Yeah, who the hell decided that a woman in good shape isn't 'real'?

[Illocust]

Or even just women with different body types for Christ sakes. I'm so sorry that everyone in my family is built on the bean pole method. If we were lazy we could get a gut, but we aren't ever going to have more than model curves.

[SugarFree]

And the implication that pin-up girls from the 40s weren't real either...

[Warty]

Fat women love this faux-50s style. I can't figure out why.

[sarcasmic]

Taylor Swift is fat?

[SugarFree]

They used more fabric back then. They need fabric. Lots of fabric.

[sarcasmic]

lol

[Restoras]

Because pin-ups back then were far curvier than today, if you want to use curvy as a euphemism for fat.

[WTF]

Except pin-ups back then weren't fat. That is a myth the fatties tell to make themselves feel better.

[Zeb]

Not fat. But not thin by today's standards either.

[Drax the Destroyer]

"Curvy" is an instant red flag on internet dating sites with (at best) iceberg selfies.

[Zeb]

Yeah. Good curvy needs some concave curves too.

[Drax the Destroyer]

I do appreciate the honesty of "BBW" and "Large and Proud." Nothing wrong with the truth ladies. Heck, I usually post "Beer gut" and "Signed up while drunk."

[Pompey]

Ricki Lake in Hairspray.

[mr lizard]

Meh, some of them aren't too bad actually. My slump busters in college were somewhere in the middle of that lineup.

[gaijin]

slump busters

hah

[Restoras]

Nice band name.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Agreed.

Heh.

[Lord Humungus]

I once had a friend of mine try to convince me that I should get a fat/chubby girlfriend when I was in a "slump". I told him I would rather live like a celibate monk than stoop to that level.

[sarcasmic]

Fat chicks are like mopeds. They're fun to ride, but you don't want your friends to see you.

[Mock-star]

They do try harder, after all.

[Restoras]

Yeah, same. No thanks.

[Zeb]

Well, I'll give the photographer credit. Probably made them look as good as possible. Still, I know plenty of "real" women who look a hell of a lot better than that.

[Post-Coital Rat]

Though, I bet the pictures have the "Awwww" factor: Calendar Geeks

[C. S. P. Schofield]

I married a fat women. I'm still married to her 28 years later, and no, the money isn't one her side of the family. I think that most of the scrawny chicks one sees in Vogue are evidence of abuse, frankly.

BUT

Those photographs aren't fooling anybody. That isn't "Real women" being made into bombshells. That's Fat Chicks being forced into a mold they don't fit. Some women (mostly quite young and veery athletic) look good in that kind of pin-up getup. But they look better in the clothes they actually like. These women would look a lot better in clothes they would normally wear to look good and feel good.

[Free Society]

If their goal was to prove that any woman can be a bombshell, they proved the opposite. Lipstick on a pig won't make the bacon any sweeter.

[Bill Dalasio]

Some of them weren't bad looking. But, Ms. Spinelle is plain-out kidding herself is she thinks that she's made all of them look like anything other than well-groomed and posed fat chicks.

Look, it's simple. Not everyone is attractive. You don't see bald, overweight, guys with acne telling everyone that women have a responsibility to think they're attractive. We guys generally have pretty flexible standards. Really, all the obsession with looks comes from women to women. But, yeah, generally not in good shape isn't a turn-on.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...Republicans agreed in a symbolic vote that climate change exists but blocked language blaming human activity.

Everybody wins!

[The Other Kevin]

So it's settled! Consensus FTW!

[Citizen Nothing]

Whatever the reality is, this is definitely the way to go, politically.
"Yes, there is good evidence for climate change, less evidence for AGW, and even less evidence that the draconian measures favored by the left would do more good than harm."
That's a political winner.

[Drake]

So they believe in the Ice Ages but not politicized science - I actually agree with the GOP for once.

[R C Dean]

They're really putting their shiny new majority to good use, aren't they?

[sarcasmic]

Man makes ice rink in his back yard - becomes most popular man in the neighborhood
Tom Fox has an ice rink in the backyard of his Lakewood, Illinois home
Fox used 2 x 10s as well as 2 x 8s to keep the ice rink intact
The homemade rink also features foam around its wall, rubber mats for getting in and out, plus overhead lights hanging outside
Fox even has a homemade 'Zamboni' he uses to resurface the ice

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....unity.html
It's all fun and games until someone gets sued.

[Ted S.]

Isn't this commonplace in Canada?

[sarcasmic]

Wouldn't know. Never been there.

[RBS]

I went once, in the middle of what was apparently the hottest summer ever and nobody had any a/c.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Where the heck did you go? Everyone has A/C here. The humidity in the summer is unbearable.

[RBS]

Peterborough.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

I don't want to ask why.

[RBS]

Blonde with a nice rack.

[Rhywun]

Where I grew up in upstate NY (Rochester) almost nobody had AC. We got maybe one or two humid nights in summer. Don't tell me Peterborough is any worse.

[Whahappan?]

Nope. I'm from Jersey but lived in Mississauga for a few years. I would laugh at the natives when they complained about the humidity. And most people had AC.

[Rhywun]

Yeah I'm in NYC now and the humidity was quite a shock at first. Still hate it.

[expat]

Yes

[R C Dean]

Hell, we had one of these homemade outdoor ice rinks on one of the lawns at law school.

[RBS]

But to answer Ted's question, they usually just use their trailer.

[TwB]

You can bet your ass someone from the city of Lakewood will be over there directly to fuck with that guy.

[Pope Jimbo]

Tons of home made rinks in Minnesoda. The sad thing is that most of the home made rinks are because helicopter parents won't let their kids go to the local rink.

It is the same way that parents of hockey kids moan about having to get ice time at 10pm because the indoor rinks are so crowded that is the only time they can get in. However you never see the punks down at the outdoor neighborhood rink. Spoiled sissies.

Now get off my snowbank!

[sarcasmic]

REVEALED: The 14 ingredients in McDonald's FRIES - including a petrol-based chemical and form of silicone found in Silly Putty
Mythbusters host Grant Imahara traveled to the fast food chain's potato processing plant in Idaho to see the production process from start to finish
During his investigation he found that dimethylpolysiloxane - a form of silicone found in Silly Putty - is used in the making of McDonald's fries along with a petrol-based chemical called TBHQ
He also discovered that the fries are fried twice - once at the factory and again at the restaurant

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....Putty.html

[gaijin]

"...former Mythbusters host Grant Imahara..."

fixed

[Warren's Strapon]

MythBusters is dead to me after firing Kari Byron.

[Rhywun]

I thought all three quit?

[Old Man With Candy]

dimethylpolysiloxane - a form of silicone found in Silly Putty

Right there you know the guy is a scare-tactic asshole. Besides, of course, getting the chemical name wrong.

[Zeb]

Silly putty? The non-toxic kids' toy? Not even that good of a scare tactic.

[RBS]

fries are fried twice

What kind of monster would do such a thing?

[SugarFree]

Belgians!

[SIV]

Belgians fry them twice in tasty horse fat

[SugarFree]

And serve them with mayo, which is really pretty good.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Mayo...Bah.

Malt vinegar FTW!

[SugarFree]

I like that too. Sambal is also delicious on fries, cut with a little ketchup.

[RBS]

Malt vinegar FTW!

Only of the fries are crispy enough.

[Whahappan?]

No, horseradish FTW!

[Zeb]

A lot of Belgian fry places have like 50 sauces to choose from.

Belgian cuisine seems to consist of fried potatoes fried cheese, mussels and beer.

[Restoras]

I think you got the order wrong. Beer goes first.

[Zeb]

True. I used to visit Belgium (Antwerp) fairly regularly and the beer was definitely the main thing. Cheap and excellent.

I think some places in Antwerp still serve river rat.

[The Other Kevin]

They had fries on an episode of How It's Made. They flash fry them at the factory so they are partially cooked, so they cook faster at the restaurant. Saves time.

[sarcasmic]

They taste better when they're cooked twice. I don't know exactly why. But if you blanch them, let them rest, then brown them, they're a hundred times better than if you cook them all the way in one go.

[SugarFree]

The insides cook better at the lower temp, and dry out if you cook them hot enough to get the outside crunchy in one go.

To get around this was why the krinkle cut fry was invented, the increase surface to mass ratio makes one pass cooking possible.

[sarcasmic]

That makes sense.

[Zeb]

Hmm. I thought it was to get some more of the water out so the inside cooks at a higher temperature. I guess that's when fried twice, not blanched then fried.

I guess that would explain why some fries are more baked-potatoey and some are more dried out in the middle.

[RBS]

I'm pretty sure that's how I landed my wife.

[WTF]

You blanched her, let her rest, and browned her?

[SugarFree]

You blanched her

STELLA!

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

*narrows gaze*

[Enough About Palin]

I had a neighbor whose dog was named Stella. It got loose all of the time, so it was not uncommon to hear the guy yelling Stella, Stella as loudly as possible.

[SugarFree]

Awesome. Please tell me he busted out the stained wifebeater at least once in a while.

[Libertarian]

They do it to beans and no one complains.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Norwegians.

Always Norwegians.

/narrows gaze.

[Medical Physics Guy]

I feel vindicated. I always thought McDonald's fries taste like fried nothing, rather than fried potatoes. With good fries everywhere these days, I don't see how anyone can stand them.

[Lord Humungus]

*burn the heretic*

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Hands LH a torch and can of gasoline*

[Medical Physics Guy]

To cite just one example, Five Guys

[RBS]

I like KFC's wedges, they are consistently crispy.

[sarcasmic]

Last time I went to KFC I asked them to substitute breasts for thighs, and they gave me all dark meat. Haven't gone back since.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

RACIS....wait...

[Warren's Strapon]

Last time I went to KFC I asked them to substitute breasts for thighs

Why did you want to swap the tastiest part of the chicken for the blandest?

[Suthenboy]

Chicken breast is for dog snacks to keep them from begging while you eat the rest of the chicken. Chicken breast meat is not human food.

[Cytotoxic]

What in the world is wrong with you? Do you only enjoy eating skin?

[mauricegirodias]

There were only two things I'd eat at McDonald's--the Angus burger and the McSkillet burrito. Both were seldom foods, and have since been cancelled. Now McD's sales drop every quarter. Hmmm...

[Citizen Nothing]

Now McD's sales drop every quarter. Hmmm..

Wow. How often were you eating there, Mo?

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

+1 Extra Value Meal

[Doctor Whom]

But do they use dihydrogen monoxide in the process?

[Restoras]

That shit is pure poison!

[gaijin]

...and the world is drowning in an ocean of it! We need to take action now!

[Libertarian]

I'm confused. Should I be upset that they put play doh ingredients in my food, or that they put food ingredients in my play doh?

[CatoTheElder]

If one doesn't want to eat french fries with traces of preservatives, one should be free to grow one's own potatoes, to press one's own oil, peel and slice the potatoes, and fry them up.

Just about anything purchased in the magnificent commercial food supply chain is going to have some trace of some sort of a preservative.

[Rasilio]

--"He also discovered that the fries are fried twice - once at the factory and again at the restaurant"--

Err, virtually all restaurants, even those who make fries from potatos directly (as opposed to using frozen ones) double fry them.

It is the ONLY way to get the fries really crispy. If you just fry them once they'll burn before all the water in the Potato cooks out so they end up soggy (which I happen to like but most people prefer them crispy)

[Rhywun]

I can't tell if this is some sort of "scare" story, or Grant plugging McDonald's. Either way... meh.

[sarcasmic]

Video shows black man fatally shot by New Jersey police raised his hands to surrender
Footage from a police dashboard camera shows Bridgeton officers Braheme Days and Roger Worley in a stop that escalates to shooting
Days screams at the passenger, Jerame Reid, 'Show me your hands!' and 'If you reach for something, you're going to be f------ dead!'
'I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing, bro. I ain't got no reason to reach for nothing,' Reid says as Days yells Reid is reaching for something
The passenger door pops open and Reid emerges. His hands are at about shoulder height and appear to be empty yet police fire at least six shots
Days is black, his partner white and the passenger was black, as was the driver
Reid, 36, had spent about 13 years in prison for shooting at New Jersey State Police troopers when he was a teenager

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....hands.html
Obey or die, in the land of the free.

[Fist of Etiquette]

THAT'S ALREADY AN OFFICIAL LINK.

[sarcasmic]

Your what hurts?

[Fist of Etiquette]

My conscientious link commenting hurts, that's what. (There might be sand in it.)

[Juice]

I couldn't see the hands of the person they shot. Regardless, the cops seemed way over the top on edge.

[Fist of Etiquette]

"The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," said Walter Hudson, chairman of civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance.

The totality of the circs?

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

GOOD shoot.

hth

WINNING!

Booyah!

*Smooches*

[Restoras]

What was that imbecilic thing Dunphy used to post to prove his street cred? AFAIEKKK or something?

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

AFLAC?

[R C Dean]

AFTAPAPIC? Something like that?

Assuming the facts are something something?

[Restoras]

Yes, that was it.

[Ted S.]

chairman of civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance.

Is there a National Unawareness Alliance?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Not that I know of.

[gaijin]

I am not aware of one

[gaijin]

fu@k...beaten by Fist...again

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Join the largest group in Hit & Run...

Beaten to it by Fist

We meet every other Thursday.

[gaijin]

clearly, Fist is a precog...

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Hmmm. That might explain....things.

[straffinrun]

Gaijin takes a swing at a fat one over the plate, but out of nowhere comes Fist to...

[Fist of Etiquette]

...kick it onside for a slapshot past the goaltender to make a 3-pointer.

[Heedless]

Checkmate!

[sarcasmic]

Sex with the woman on top is the most dangerous position for men, say scientists - but having him on top is the safest

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....afest.html

According to new research, the risky position is to blame for half of all penile fractures that occur during sex. In comparison, 'doggy style' or the woman on all fours is responsible for 29per cent of injuries, while 'man on top' or 'missionary' is only liable for 21per cent.

[Raven Nation]

So I assume that because SCIENCE, the left will rush to endorse this?

[BardMetal]

Based on personal experience I believe it.

[SugarFree]

Me too. I've gotten close a few times, include the worst incident that involved a ring-around bruise.

[sarcasmic]

It's a risk I'm willing to take.

[Restoras]

Every. Time.

[TwB]

Indeed.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Those... words.... do.... not... go.... together....

/shudder

[Libertarian]

Unless you're naming a punk band.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Penile fractures

I think you are right - that would be a good punk band name!

They could go the "Missionary Position" album tour.

[mauricegirodias]

I would think reverse cowgirl is the most dangerous, particularly if one party is inexperienced, but younger girls seem to really go for it 'cuz they learned from porn.

/Lazy directors.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

We need to ban this position.

That AND pizza.

For progress.

And the children.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

What about...the butt sex?

[Pro Libertate]

So, will the government be mandating warning labels on the underboob area?

[R C Dean]

If you can see this sign, you should be tailgating instead?

[Free Society]

A good friend of mine straight up broke his dick in his wife. He backed out and plunged back in at full force and missed his target, literally snapping his boner in half. Apparently medical marijuana products are the only thing that kills the boner pain.

[Aloysious]

ooohh... my eyes are leaking.

[Cytotoxic]

We need a PSA campaign to deal with this epidemic of broken dick.

[sarcasmic]

Who is watermelon man? Man wearing hollowed-out fruit 'helmet' on Chinese subway becomes online celebrity
Mysterious man spotted wearing hollowed-out watermelon on his head
Beijing commuters left scared and confused after encountering him
He has now become an internet sensation as locals try to reveal his identity

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....brity.html

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Man, they have the lamest superheroes in Beijing...

[BardMetal]

So they ripped off Ed Edd & Eddy?

[Ska]

Maybe the guy was inspired by Herbie Hancock.

[gaijin]

++

[SugarFree]

He is just looked for his limecat.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

That is one displeased feline...

[sarcasmic]

'I thought you were gay!' Courtney Love hits back at Marilyn Manson after he accuses her of being promiscuous and dim

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs.....s-dim.html

'She, one time, told me she was mad at me because I didn't want to f*** her and I was smarter than her. I said, "Well, you kind of proved your own point right there on that one."'
The 50-year-old grunge queen took to her Twitter on Tuesday to respond: 'Omg @marilynmanson all this time thought u're gay. Of course I'll f*** u. Im free Fri from 1:15 to 1:18 gives us plenty time 4 a smoke too x.'

[Ted S.]

'I thought you were gay!' Courtney Love hits back at Marilyn Manson after he accuses her of being promiscuous and dim

I don't know about the promiscuous part, but Courtney Love isn't dim?

[Palin's Buttplug]

I don't know but 'Hole' was the best girl band ever.

[sarcasmic]

No way.

[Restoras]

You know better than too respond to it. That comment alone is proof it isn't sentient - let alone all the other imbecilic drivel it has posted here.

[sarcasmic]

It was an excuse to play Shit List.

[Rich]

Gotta put in a plug for Shonen Knife.

[Citizen Nothing]

Yeah. The Plug loves holes. Whatta surprise.

[BardMetal]

Wait both of these guys are still around? I haven't heard about them since high school.

[SugarFree]

I saw Marilyn Marilyn in concert before he was even wearing the makeup. He sucked then too.

[sarcasmic]

Set prices to stun! Fibreglass phaser from the original Star Trek series expected to fetch $60,000 at auction
The 50-year-old prop is only of only two known to exist from the series
Experts have even managed to trace the very scene it appeared in
It goes under the hammer at a specialist auction in LA on February 21

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....ction.html
dorks

[Restoras]

Seriously. $60K would buy a fun car.

[SRVolunteer]

The dork who buys this probably already has a couple cars worth over $100k.

Some Senate candidate who lost (Ariana Huffington's ex?) was asked if he regretted throwing tens of millions of dollars of his own money away on a losing campaign. His reply was something along the lines of "What else should I do for fun with my money? Buy another painting?"

Wealthy people are strange.

[Restoras]

Fair enough. If I were that rich I probably wouldn't care either.

[BardMetal]

Wealth is wasted on progressives. I would start collecting tanks, and then buy a ton of land out in Montana and turn it into a huge tank range.

If I got bored with that then I start work on my own private space program, or buy some offshore drilling platforms and make a sea colony.

[Palin's Buttplug]

Ted Turner did something like that.

[R C Dean]

Except for the tanks, that is.

[Rasilio]

So you'd become Elon Musk

[C. S. P. Schofield]

There are a bunch of out-of-print books I would pay to have put into e-book form. I'd travel some, to some off places (Solomon Islands, anyone?). I sure wouldn't blow a fortune on trying to get a job I'd HATE.

[Libertarian]

Wealthy people are strange.

Eh, not necessarily. I get the argument. Went to an RV show last week and looked at a $2.2 million RV. Of course, we were all shaking our heads, muttering at how WE'D be smart and buy a great house out in the country for that kind of money. But I countered that the guy who buys a $2.2M motorhome is not somebody who has a net worth of $3M. He's somebody who has a net worth of $30M.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

$300M more likely, yes?

[Rufus J. Firefly]

The Alfa-Romeo 4C Spider is out. It's around 68k.

http://www.caranddriver.com/ph.....nfo-news#5

[SIV]

What are they going to call the Dodge-branded version?

[R C Dean]

A lemon?

[Libertarian]

Saw an extended ad for it on Hulu. Lots of scenes of two sexy people romping in bed.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Nerd..... you're a nerd....

[Robert]

I thought those things were spelled "fazer". Like, you know, you could faze someone with it.

[Libertarian]

I would guess that "faze" is even a lower setting than "stun."

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Set fazers to "annoy"!

[C. S. P. Schofield]

I prefer to set them to "deep fat fry"

[Libertarian]

Set fazers to "micro-aggression"!

[Fist of Etiquette]

...after conservatives went after her for old anti-war Facebook posts.

How fun! We've entered the age where staff's social media can come back on their candidates.

[Libertarian]

Well, I imagine it was NEO-cons that hammered her. Not paleo-cons.

[sarcasmic]

Explosive video footage shows former UFC heavyweight fighter Dave Herman getting tased by cops over driving offense
Herman was tased by Indiana police following an altercation in the early hours of Tuesday morning
Wife Madeleine has posted footage of the incident online and has called for the officers involved to be charged with assault
The footage shows police yelling at Herman to put his hands up and him repeatedly asking officers for identification
The ex-fighter has being charged with several criminal counts including resisting arrest and battery against an officer

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....fense.html
Surprised they didn't shoot him.

[sarcasmic]

Don't have a cow, man: Americans are more scared of unpasteurized milk than marijuana
Sixty per cent of Americans support bans on the sale of raw milk, Oklahoma State University's Food Demand Survey shows
While only 46 per cent agree with banning the sale of marijuana
Survey also shows majority of people support more food labeling

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....juana.html

[BardMetal]

Good ol' freedom lovin' Americans. Land of the free, home of the brave.

[Libertarian]

Yep. And now we can even buy beer in Indiana on the sabbath! Woo Hoo!!

[MOFO.]

You could before, just not carryout (except for growlers)

[trshmnster the terrible]

That's exciting! I had forgotten about that law when I was up for the 500 last year. Thankfully a friend reminded me the day before.

[Ted S.]

Sixty per cent of Americans support bans on the sale of raw milk,

Sixty percent of Americans want to use force to stop the other forty percent from buying raw milk.

[Zeb]

Either that or they have some bizarre fear that unpasteurized milk will somehow sneak into the regular milk supply. I suppose the results are the same, but I doubt the motivation has much to do with stopping other people.

[Certified Public Asskicker]

Ted, I could go to someone's house and they could try to serve me raw milk. I need protections in place.*

*I have had raw milk before and liked it, although not enough to pay $5/gallon.

[Zeb]

"Mandatory labels on foods containing DNA"

What?

I'm kind of surprised at the support for some of those. Probably shouldn't be. At least the one's involving actual bans or direct taxes are low on the list. But still pretty popular.

[C. S. P. Schofield]

I'm all for allowing the sale of raw milk; it'll cut down on the number of "Natural and organic" morons.

[Free Society]

I love it when people say they "only eat organic". I respond "I only eat silicates and plutonium."

[Zeb]

Raw milk really is better for a lot of things. Pasteurized homo milk is a pretty bland product with little flavor or character. If you want to make any kind of fresh cheese, it's the way to go. I don't think the health claims are completely ridiculous either, but even if they are, raw milk is still a good thing.

There is also this new-fangled thing called refrigeration which makes raw milk a whole lot safer than it was when pasteurization was invented.

[Cytotoxic]

Soon, we will grow milk with yeast and no pasteurization will be needed. Look up 'Muufri'.

[Zeb]

I think you will still get better (or at least different in an interesting and good way) milk out of an animal.

Would be a good substitute for all the boring commodity milk, though.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...a revolt from a large swath of female members of Congress.

Identity politics in the lower chamber? I can't believe it.

[SugarFree]

And the GOP's obsession with banning abortions at the federal level isn't identity politics?

[Fist of Etiquette]

Oh no you don't. You're not roping me into arguing on the side of the Christian Right.

[SugarFree]

Bwa-ha-ha!

[widget]

No, Yes. It's GOP women and some tag-along betas that have this obsession.

[gaijin]

Europe goes full Keynesian...again!

Draghi unleashes 1 trillion euro QE

[Restoras]

What's the definition of insanity?

[gaijin]

"It is sometimes an appropriate response to reality to go insane."

[Zeb]

Whatever it is, it's not "doing the same thing again and expecting different results."

But that's still pretty insane. What they need to do is start a war with Switzerland.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

WATCH IT, PAL!

[Zeb]

Your masters have some nerve with their stable and highly valued currency. Don't they know how that makes Europe feel?

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

"Don't they know how that makes Europe feel?"

It should make them feel like stocking the shelves extra high BECAUSE HERE COME THE SWISS, ON A BUYING SPREE!!!!!!

[Restoras]

I really think I should just start stockpiling Swiss Francs.

[Zeb]

Should have a while ago.

[Cytotoxic]

Just hope that there central bank doesn't go crazy again and try to re-peg their currency to the Euro.

[R C Dean]

I'm a little puzzled by why increasing the supply of your currency is going to solve your problem with your currency depreciating.

[Free Society]

Whatever it is, it's not "doing the same thing again and expecting different results."

But that's still pretty insane. What they need to do is start a war with Switzerland.

You'd be surprised (or not) by how many people literally beleive the definition is "doing the same thing again and expecting different results". I believe the definition of stupid is taking common expressions at face value.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Hey Rocky, watch me pull a rabbit out of my hat!

[Ted S.]

Again?

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

*Roar*

Oooh, guess I don't know my own strenth!

[Medical Physics Guy]

Hey central bank intervention just saved Russia so... oh wait, it didn't.

[Medical Physics Guy]

Good related article http://www.wsj.com/articles/da.....1421885831

[Irish]

I love that Europe is refusing to confront the elephant in the room: They've got an aging population with a smaller and smaller able bodied workforce and the people they imported to shore up that workforce are now stuck in welfare dependency and aren't working.

That's not a good way to end up with a working economy.

[Zeb]

Especially combined with ridiculous labor laws that deter employers from taking any chances when hiring new employees.

[Free Society]

I have to wonder how much higher the native birth rate would be if an imported workforce wasn't diminishing the incentive to reproduce.

[Zeb]

That's an interesting question. I have no idea myself. My feeling is that declining birthrates probably have more to do with cultural changes in the mainstream culture than with the size of the available labor force. Birth rates are declining in lots of parts of the world and not just in places with lots of immigration.

[Cytotoxic]

There is absolutely no reason to believe that the imported workforce has anything to do with diminishing reproduction.

[C. S. P. Schofield]

The way the headline is written I took it to say "Bill Clinton Leads in Poll"

Christ, don't scare me like that.

[Palin's Buttplug]

The 90s were sweet unless you're anti BJ.

[C. S. P. Schofield]

The thing is, if Bill managed to get elected President again (yes, I know it's illegal. Laws change), he would be able to accomplish something. Shrillery has about on tenth of the political and personal skills Bill has, and lacks the sense to get him to do the work for her. She'd promptly alienate about a third of the DEMOCRATS in Congress, get very little of her agenda done, and screw up the rest, and flounce back out of office in four years (having poisoned the idea of a female President for at least twenty years)

[Drax the Destroyer]

A president getting "very little done" is good thing unless vetoing everything and pushing to repeal most laws were his/her primary objectives.

[C. S. P. Schofield]

Bingo! Bill could "get things done", most of which would be bad. Therefore the "Christ, don't scare me like that"

Shrillery? She has all the tact of an enraged gorilla. She'd like as not get four years of gridlock from a Democrat controlled Congress.

I'm not scared of Shrillery at 1600 PA.

[Ted S.]

I was hoping they'd drop abortion Bill Clinton.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...officials say a federal civil rights charge is highly unlikely.

"We've already had the elections, so by the time we need your votes again you'll have forgotten this."

[SugarFree]

"Those comments were made long before I worked for Senator Paul," said "Libertarian Girl" Marianne Copenhaver, a blogger and activist hired to do social media for Paul, after conservatives went after her for old anti-war Facebook posts.

She's not a fan of war? What a bitch! Burn her!

[Palin's Buttplug]

ECB to buy $70 billion per month in bonds to combat deflation.

No link. You Peanuts trust me.

[TwB]

I saw that this morning on WSJ.com. I'm not too surprised. They just followed the US, UK and Japan's lead.

[gaijin]

It's 60 Billion...Euros, not dollars...see link I posted above.

[Palin's Buttplug]

I converted to USD for the Gallery.

[Mike M.]

How many times have you and Krugman jerked each other off so far since you heard the news?

[Cytotoxic]

And it will fail to produce any economic growth, just like it always fails.

Anyone who thinks deflation is bad is a moron.

[Mike M.]

So now the Islamonazi scum are holding a couple of Japanese hostage. Old white imperialists probably still to blame, according to Sheldon Richmann.

[Medical Physics Guy]

It's blowback for the Japanese electronics invasion of the Middle East.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

The sad thing is A) I don't know if the Japanese can come with $200 million and B) if they can't they don't really have the military capabilities to launch a rescue operation I think.

[SugarFree]

The Japanese pledged $200 million to fight ISIS. That's how the terrorists came up with that number.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

THEY'RE NOT TERRORISTS!

THEY'RE EXTREMISTS!

Or misunderstood freedom fighters.

Either way, they're NOT TERRORISTS!

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

WORKPLACE VIOLENCERS!

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Now you're just being silly.

And racist.

[straffinrun]

I believe Abe is claiming he will donate 200mil to charity in some way. That should work out well.

[widget]

My savings portfolio continues to edge up at slightly less than the rate of inflation. It's Thursday, right?

[Palin's Buttplug]

You should have been in stocks then. Up 14% last year and up 300% since early 2009.

[Pompey]

God damn you are a fucking dullard.

[Cytotoxic]

Gold is a better investment. Nearly 1400$ today.

[TwB]

Be glad it's edging up, even slightly. I work at an investment firm and I get a few calls from folks who didn't touch their IRAs or 403bs for a few years, and they left all their money in Inverse Nasdaq and Inverse Dow and consequently lost their asses. While I do feel a little bad for them, they should have checked their accounts more often than every 4 years or so.

[Palin's Buttplug]

That idiot Karl Denninger had his readers in FAZ for all of 2009.

Triple inverse bank ETF.

[TwB]

Jesus. Talk about taking a bath.

[Fist of Etiquette]

...Hillary Clinton held a double-digit lead over other potential 2016 presidential candidates Jeb Bush and Mitt Romney.

"The dress'll come out tomorrow, bet your bottom million that tomorrow they'll be cum..."

[Fist of Etiquette]

Apologies. I just read about Clinton the Musical.

[TwB]

Would Melissa McCarthy play Linda Tripp?

[SugarFree]

Penny Marshall is a lock for the role.

[Palin's Buttplug]

BENGHAZI!! It worked so well against Obama.

[Rich]

800,000 Muslims Rally Against Charlie Hebdo in Chechnya ? A Country of 1.3 Million People

Chechen leader Ramzan Kadyrov urged people to attend to protest against what he called "the vulgarity, immorality, lack of culture, and the shamelessness of those who drew the caricatures of the Prophet. ... If needed, we are ready to die to stop anyone who thinks that you can irresponsibly defile the name of the Prophet."

What if someone *responsibly* defiles the name?

[Injun, as in from India]

Tamerlan and Dzhokhar Tsarnaev agree with Ramzan Kadyrov.

[CatoTheElder]

Isn't Dzhokhar to busy with his 72 virgins to keep up with this sort of thing?

[CatoTheElder]

too busy

[Zeb]

No, it's the other one.

[Injun, as in from India]

Let progressive heads implode.

Perhaps most notably, given CAP's advocacy for an economically progressive agenda, is that CAP's top donors include Walmart and Citigroup, each of which have given between $100,000 and $499,000.

Center for American Progress, poised to wield influence over 2016, reveals its top donors

[Lord Humungus]

but Koch BROTHERZ!

[Irish]

"Perhaps most notably, given CAP's advocacy for an economically progressive agenda, is that CAP's top donors include Walmart and Citigroup, each of which have given between $100,000 and $499,000."

It's almost like large companies have no problem working with progressives since they realize they'll be able to buy influence and favors from a highly intrusive government.

[Doctor Whom]

Corporate is conservative. This is verbatim what some progressives actually say.

[Puddin' Stick]

Theorem: Corporations are conservative.

Proof:

Fascists believed that society was like a body and that the government should be the mind directing society. They called this view "corporatism" after the Latin word for "body", "corpus").

After Operation Barbarossa, Fascists became the enemy of Communists.

Communists are opposed to the previous order.

Supporters of the old order are "conservatives".

Businesses are organized as "corporations"

"Corporation" also derives from the Latin word for "body".

Therefore, corporations are conservatives because "corporation" is etymologically related to "corporatism" which is supported by Fascists who are conservatives because they are enemies of Communism whose enemies are conservatives.

QED, corporations are conservative.

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

What is this "barrier to entry" you speak of?

/Wal-Mart exec

[Doctor Whom]

Never underestimate the power of doublethink. Also, the embassy of that progressive utopia, the United Arab Emirates, gave generously.

[John]

The smart ones understand that the entire thing is a protection racket. This is what the left does. The people whose heads should explode over this are conservatives who actually think business won't sell their own hangman's rope if they think there is money to be made doing it.

[Puddin' Stick]

Old news.

Mentioned in "CAP's Wal-Mart Cash" from 2009 is that Wal-Mart gives money to CAP:

As for the liberal-leaning Center for American Progress, it has an added incentive to welcome Wal-Mart into polite company. While the left has shunned the corporate behemoth for years, according to its Web site Wal-Mart gives the think tank between $500,000 and $999,999. Perhaps CAP will get more than just brownie points from the Obama administration for brokering this deal.

[Rich]

Scientists create 'genetic firewall' for new forms of life

The odds of a microbe undoing all the changes are astronomically high, he calculated.

He being "Dr. Murphy"?

[Steve G]

Is this kinda like the lysine contingency?

[Injun, as in from India]

Big news from New York.

1) WHY THE F*** does the headline not say he is a (D-NY)?

2) This scumbag voted for the NY "SAFE" Act, along with a bunch of Democrat turds. Not that this is going to change anything.

Sheldon Silver, New York Assembly Speaker, Faces Arrest on Corruption Charges

[Medical Physics Guy]

Sheldon Silver wasnever anything other than a professional of corruption and cronyism. Everyone knew that. What could they possibly be arresting him for at this point.

Silver single handedly shot down the idiotic idea of building a Jets stadium in Manhattan. So in that one respect he definitely helped the city.

[Ted S.]

15-plus years ago, he argued that NY state legislators needed a raise because were paid less than minimum wage. This would have been accurate... if the legislators worked 31 hours a day, 365 days a year.

He should have been laughed out of Albany for displaying such monstrous stupidity, especially considering he didn't say he screwed up the division or got a decimal point in the wrong place or something like that. But Albany just goes on as though nothing happened.

[Zeb]

If legislators were paid a market rate, they'd probably have to pay to do the job.

[Gadianton]

I'd vote for that amendment.

[Rich]

Illinois Says Rule-Breaking Students Must Give Teachers Their Facebook Passwords

Leigh Lewis, superintendent of the Triad district, [said] if a student refuses to cooperate, the district could presumably press criminal charges.

"Go ahead, Leigh. I need the money."

[widget]

That would work with a civil complaint (loser pays here in CA) but you won't get your money back in criminal court.

[Rich]

Read the article (and the law). It appears these clowns are way overstepping.

[Ted S.]

H&R should cover this story!

[Matrix]

Many websites, including Facebook, have TOS that stipulate not giving out or requesting login information. So the schools and teachers are in violation of Facebook TOS by asking for students' login information. Their accounts should be banned.

If I'm not mistaken, Federal Law makes it illegal to violate TOSs

[Zeb]

The only conviction based on violating TOS that I know of (Lori Drew, the awful woman who drove a teen girl to suicide), was overturned. So maybe not. Yet.

[Injun, as in from India]

The White House is SEXIST!

Carly Fiorina forces Valerie Jarrett to confront the White House's own pay gap for women

[John]

Valarie Jarrett is by all accounts as dumb as she is vile. Fiorina is anything but stupid. Jarrett didn't have a chance there.

[Irish]

"A dashcam video has been released in the New Jersey state trooper shooting of Jerame Reid, who was pulled over December 30 for running a stop sign. "The video speaks for itself that at no point was Jerame Reid a threat and he possessed no weapon on his person," said Walter Hudson, chairman of civil rights group the National Awareness Alliance."

How long do you think the Grand Jury deliberates before deciding not to indict?

I feel like they'll probably make sure to order some pizza to the courtroom, just so they can wait as long as they can in order to make it appear as if they were really agonizing over the decision.

[Lord Humungus]

4 ways American corporations are responsible for racial oppression
Our entire capitalist system is rooted in slavery, yes, but the human rights abuses hardly end there

1. American Corporations Are Partly Responsible for the Sale of Human Beings
?-Wall Street: Banks made loans to slave owners, processed transactions through the New York Cotton Exchange, and held slave auctions outside their doors. JP Morgan, Bank of America, and Wachovia (Wells Fargo) admitted the roles of their predecessor banks.

2. American Corporations Are Partly Responsible for the First Vagrancy Laws

3. American Corporations Are Partly Responsible for WW2 Slave Labor

4. American Corporations Are Partly Responsible for Today's Deadening Racial Oppression

They may not be the mine shafts of Tennessee Coal, but modern private prisons such as Corrections Corporation of America and G4S generate massive profits, selling inmate labor to corporations like Chevron, Bank of America, AT&T, and IBM. Nearly a million prisoners work in factories and call centers for as little as 17 cents an hour.

Communism is obviously the answer.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

I'm guessing before I click that it's Myerson.

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

Damn, there's someone else at least as stupid as Jesse. That sucks.

[RBS]

at least as stupid

Ummm

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

He's the buzzfeed version of Myerson

[widget]

Nearly a million prisoners work in factories and call centers for as little as 17 cents an hour.

That's a tall tale. As far as prisoners working at call centers goes, that's somewhat plausible, they work for Comcast.

[Rufus J. Firefly]

Wow. What a loon. I skipped to the last few paragraphs. The guy is literally an idiot.

[Doctor Whom]

The private-prison industry mysteriously took over the power to enact and enforce criminal laws, while our elected officials stood idly by. This is what progressives actually believe. Once, when I said so, a progressive not only failed to detect the sarcasm, but also agreed with me.

[Puddin' Stick]

Then the follow up questions:

And what's to stop it from happening again?

What's to stop it from happening to the regulatory system?

[Irish]

"Our entire capitalist system is rooted in slavery, yes, but the human rights abuses hardly end there"

The Capitalist system is so thoroughly rooted in slavery that slavery existed for 5000 years before capitalism and capitalist countries are the ones who were the first to end it.

[Matrix]

How did I know this was going to be a Salon article?

[Injun, as in from India]

Paging Ursula Burns.

Paging Ken Chenault.

[Zeb]

Shouldn't 1, 2 and 3 be "were" not "are"? These people take the whole "corporate personhood" thing too literally.

I can agree with them on the prison thing.

"Deadening Racial Oppression". Argue that there is lingering racism in our society that still keeps some minority people down. That's a reasonable thing to discuss. But that is just some insane hyperbole.

[Free Society]

If they want to have a contest to see who the greatest purveyor of institutional evil really is, I'll direct them to the US army spraying radioactive snow over housing projects in St Louis in the 1950s. I'll point them to US government concentration camps... aw hell, I'll just make them a long list of murders and genocides committed all over the world and we'll see how many were evil corporations and how many were committed by our indispensable governments.

[Zeb]

Oh, that's all corporations fault too.

I've actually seen that argument made. There are people who think that all of WWII can be blamed on capitalism. Because Nazi's were such good free-marketeers or something.

[Lord Humungus]

The worms that invade your brain

The patient, who was of Chinese descent, had recently visited China, which along with South Korea, Japan and Thailand, has more regular occurrences of the parasite known as Spirometra erinaceieuropaei. Four years earlier the man had first experienced symptoms, such as headaches, which the team of doctors at Addenbrookes Hospital, in Cambridge, had treated as tuberculosis. But then he returned.

"When he reappeared, he had new symptoms," says Gkrania-Klotsas. The worm was now pushing on a new part of his brain, causing seizures and weakness in his legs. The condition associated with his infection was in fact Sparganosis. There is no known drug to effectively treat the infection meaning that upon diagnosis doctors had to be quick to remove the worm surgically.

Pork sandwich, anyone?

[Scruffy Nerfherder]

People tend to forget that worm infestations were the norm for most of human history.

[Rich]

In these days of modern time, however, we have other, um, afflictions.

The National Institutes of Health (NIH) has spent nearly a half a million dollars studying gay hookup apps such as Grindr.

[Lord Humungus]

_closely studied_

[widget]

In these days of modern time...

Holy fuck, Rich, you should be writing screen plays for the "Law and Order" and "NCIS" franchises.

[Suthenboy]

They also forget that worms and host of other parasites and pathogens will come roaring back if the proggies have their way and plunge us all into poverty.

[Enough About Palin]

A dashcam video has been released in the New Jersey state trooper shooting of Jerame Reid

I just can't take a story seriously when the guy's named Jerame.

[Rich]

RACIST!

[WTF]

Is it pronounced "jer-AIM" or "JER-a-mee"?

[Zeb]

Or maybe "yer-AM-uh" or "HAIR-a-may"

[Rhywun]

I just assumed jer-AIM but now that you mention it the other one is probably correct.

[Michael Ejercito]

It does not make sense to sacrifice votes on the altar of the unborn.

[widget]

We've all been unborn since the Big Bang.

[Andrew S.]

From the New Jersey cop murder article:

Screaming "Don't you f? ing move!" and "Show me your hands!" at the man in the passenger seat, the officer reached into the car and appeared to remove a silver handgun. Then, despite being warned repeatedly not to move, the passenger stepped out of the car, his hands raised about shoulder level.

Quick, which order do you follow?

[John]

There is some movie where the cop yells "Freeze" "Hands in the Air" and the people dumbfounded ask which he wants.

It is as I recall a comedy. If only this were funny.

[Steve G]

Imagine if you will a 12 yr old boy with a toy gun in his waistband. The cops arrive and tell him to "drop the weapon". Talk about a lethal catch 22

[trshmnster the terrible]

Christmas Vacation

[John]

Yes. That one too. The end scene where the cops all come in.

[RBS]

"Just follow their orders and you won't have any problems. If you don't, you get what you deserve."

/generic facebook comment.

[Puddin' Stick]

"Just follow their orders and you won't have any problems. If you don't, you get what you deserve jedem das Seine."

/generic facebook comment.

FTFY

[Swiss Servator, ... Switzy!]

Gale: All right, ya hayseeds, it's a stick-up. Everybody freeze. Everybody down on the ground.
Feisty Hayseed: Well, which is it, young feller? You want I should freeze or get down on the ground? Mean to say, if'n I freeze, I can't rightly drop. And if'n I drop, I'm a-gonna be in motion. You see...
Gale: Shut up!
Feisty Hayseed: Okay then.
Gale: Everybody down on the ground!
Evelle: Y'all can just forget that part about freezin' now.
Gale: Better still to get down there.
Evelle: Yeah, y'all hear that, don't ya?
[Everybody lays down. Gale looks at the now-empty teller windows]
Gale: Shit! Where'd all the tellers go?
Teller's voices: We're down here, sir.
Evelle: They're on the floor as you commanded, Gale.

[John]

That is the scene I am thinking of. What movie is that from? I can't remember.

[Libertarian]

I guessed Raising Arizona. For once in my life, I was right.

[John]

Yeah. That is it. I could see the scene in my mind but just couldn't place it.

[Pro Libertate]

My favorite Coen film.

[John]

I love that movie. I think my favorite might be The Big Labowski. It is a flawed movie in some ways, but it just has so many great lines and great scenes. My wife loathes that movie. She thinks it is the dumbest movie ever made.

Sometimes I really wonder about her and how it is I came to marry her.

And their remake of True Grit was really good too. It takes some real balls to remake a John Wayne Western and to do it well.

Of course since you are a commie fag and don't like John Wayne (NTTAWWT) you probably don't get that.

[Stormy Dragon]

I think my favorite Coen Brother's movie is Oh Brother Where Art Thou?

[Stormy Dragon]

It's also one of a handful of movies that remind you that Nicholas Cage can be a really good actor when he wants to be, which leaves me wondering what the hell is up with most of his films.

[John]

Bad choice of scripts and doing anything for a paycheck Stormy.

[Stormy Dragon]

"Those comments were made long before I worked for Senator Paul," said "Libertarian Girl" Marianne Copenhaver, a blogger and activist hired to do social media for Paul, after conservatives went after her for old anti-war Facebook posts.

Again, I REALLY want to like Rand, but I'm getting increasingly annoyed by how every time he gets flak from neocons or socons, he always seems to give in to their demands.

[John]

He would like to win the nomination. He can't do that by telling most of the party to fuck off. His father made a career of doing that and it got him 25% of the vote and nothing more.

[Stormy Dragon]

There are other options besides "fuck you" and folding like a wet shirt. Like trying to convince the people who disagree with you that you're right.

If I wanted to vote for someone who wants to be President so badly that they'll say anything, Romney is already running. Having a Libertarian candidate isn't helpful if they're afraid to actually be libertarian.

[Cytotoxic]

Oh cripes I don't think you really want to like Rand I think you want to nitpick him. He's got better things to do than defend comments made by others. He has to focus his efforts.

[B.P.]

"Hoosiers may soon be able to buy beer on Sunday."

Good. Race day is on Sunday.