# WATCH: Which President Bombed Iraq Best?

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"Which President Bombed Iraq Best" was originally released on Dec. 8, 2014. The original text is below:

It's often said that "you can bomb the world to pieces but you can't bomb it into peace." The finalists for the coveted Best Iraq Bombing Award beg to differ. From Tomahawk cruise missiles to Predator drones, these Oval Office humanitarians have brought peace to the very cradle of civilization no fewer than four times in the past 25 years. Find out which of the last four presidents war it best.

Approximately 1:30 minutes.

Written by Nick Gillespie and Meredith Bragg. Hosted by Gillespie. Produced by Bragg.

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1. I'm just wondering if there exists a secret bombing logarithm. Some sort of equation that can determine the amount of peace that will naturally output from a set tonnage of dropped or fired explosive devices.

If not, someone is fucking winging this shit.

1. I'm sure there's a spreadsheet with all the appropriate peace multipliers for each piece of ordinance somewhere. 1.5 for Paveways, 3.1 for tactical nuke, etc.

2. "I'm just wondering if there exists a secret bombing logarithm. Some sort of equation that can determine the amount of peace that will naturally output from a set tonnage of dropped or fired explosive devices."

You should review the part of "Fog of War" (errol morris film about Robert McNamara) where he goes into detail about statistical analysis work related to the fire bombing campaign of Japan in WWII.

The short answer to your question is that there is no bombing math that makes any sense over time as in every single war we've fought, 'bombing' had an almost entirely different purpose/role/strategic dynamic associated with it.

In WWII we bombed cities to (at first) cripple 'war industry' (later we just bombed them to bomb them)

in Vietnam, we bombed dirt roads and forests to "deny the enemy" access to strategic transport or positions. we exfoliated whole sections of the country just to reduce the potential for concealment.

In Gulf I, we bombed dumb-bombs against targets identified by 'smart systems' and wiped out most of their warfighting capability within a few days. 90% of the war was fought from the air. The ground troops were, if anything, simply bait to draw out the armor.

In Afghanistan, we used b52s dropping 'Smarter bombs' targeted by small teams of ground forces riding on horses but using laser-devices to identify targets...

you get the idea. Its never the same thing twice.

1. Gilmore poetry.

1. AC, you're awfully lucid today. What's going on?

1. Don't make me love you C. It always ends sadly in a dark alley.

1. Agile poetry 🙂

1. A! Imagine my hands deeply massagin your rockin shoulders... gliding sweepin... nothing else matters... well I'm currently fuckd up but nothing else matter... A! gets massaged... shoulders, back, chest,

1. ....go on....

1. sweet surrender my lovely man... treasuring life, bro.

We don't love forever...

3. "I'm just wondering if there exists a secret bombing logarithm."

I think I will refer to that as an AlGoreism.

1. Interesting moniker...

1. A Logarithm is a mathematical function of a number expressing that number as a power of a base number, usually 10 or n.

An algorithm is a process or routine for accomplishing a task.

IOW, you were 'towing the lion' and, since your 'lion' involved the misuse of a technical term for an argument about policy "AlGoreism" seems to be an appropriate eponym for this particular case.

1. My mistake. I see "AlGoreism" is already in use for an exaggerated claim, like 'inventing the internet' or 'ending the war on drugs.'

2. Aresen... you fukcing gorgeous whore...

I'm interested IN ARESEN. Aresen. Not Logarithms you crazy ass durp.

And I DO recognize your clever ALGoreism incantation as bursting with creativity.

But, aresen. Open the flower to this...

1. R S N

My initials rendered as phonemes.

Ar es en

This has been explained here previously.

1. Rather well done.

2. OT: http://www.telegram.com/articl.....1101/local

Gods should get 1/100 of the sentence of a mundane.

"One night behind bars for a state trooper is like 100 for anyone else in this courtroom," Mr. Erlich told the judge before asking that Trooper Willard be placed on probation with a suspended sentence and spared a period of incarceration in jail or prison. Mr. Erlich said his client's safety would be in jeopardy behind bars because of his position as a law enforcement officer.

1. Simply put him in solitary...

...for his own protection.

We certainly want to make sure Trooper Willard makes it home safely to his family.

1. even after prison!

2. Mr. Erlich said his client's safety would be in jeopardy behind bars because of his position as a law enforcement officer.

Everyone's safety is in jeopardy when he's around; seems fair to put his safety in jeopardy for a while.

3. Not sure if anyone has mentioned it yet here, but there's a protest going on right now in Baltimore, at the corner of Conway street and Light Street, lot of signs, but the big one says 'STOP POLICE TERROR'. I would have taken a picture or two but traffic was heavy and I was the only one in the car, so couldn't ask anyone else to try snapping a couple either.

1. Libertarian Moment.

1. Not sure what that's supposed to mean, but I had to stop long enough that I got to survey the crowd for a few seconds. As far as I could tell, they were all white. Which might tell us that this was more related to the bigger problem and not just the two recent cases that the media and their masters in government want us to focus on.

1. I mean that this is part and parcel of the Libertarian Moment, which is real and happening. Your elaboration only further supports my point.

1. Does anyone understand this exchange between Hyp and Cyt? I don't. Seems spinachy.

2. In the 90's, the nanny state started going after kids. Teenagers today face far more police harassment than we did in the 80's.

I think these kids, now in their 20's will be far more receptive to the.notion that the cops are out if control than their older cohorts.

2. Just FYI, there have been protests/marches all day in the city.

1. Draco Malfoy. This test is stupid, though, I wanted to be Hermione. Gender partisans!

1. To get Hermione, you have to answer as an honorable person who seeks to improve themselves would.

In other words, you'd have to lie, Epi. Or alter the past.

2. Huh, I'm Hermione, even though I identified as "male."

3. The real question is, who do you hate more, Voldemort or Dolores Umbridge?

I was torn. Voldemort is truly evil, but I respect that more than that busybody cunt.

1. I chose Umbridge. She's the epitome of bureaucratic busybodism.

4. The one that pulled out an AR-15 and blasted all those broom riding biatches right out the sky!

1. I ended up being a yet-to-be-identified. Crushing.

5. I get Neville Longbottom. The dork with a hobbit's surname?

FUCK.

1. According to Buzzfeed every hot chick's sweet little finger caressed that mini penis at the top of the pink folds thinking about you at 17. Please stop complaining, you handsome dork.

2. He turned into a sort of badass by the end of the series, so not so bad.

(I got him too -- don't tell anyone.)

6. Ginny Weasley.

Interesting.

1. It was probably the question about Gin that got me.

4. I see that our fearless leaders still haven't boarded the Cronybus:

Congress still not done fighting about how to waste more of our money

Am I the only one who is more than a little infuriated watching these elected criminals haggle over how to split up the spoils of their theft?

Look at the grinning bastards in that photo. They look like they all just won the fucking lottery.

1. What I find harrowing is that, for the ULRAPROG wing of the Dem party, this bill just has too much freedom in it ex narrowing Frank-Dodd. Nope, the TOTAL STATE demands total support, and the ULTRAPROGS are going to try and deliver it even if they don't have the political capital to pull it off and it blows up in their faces.

1. Ultraprog. Nice.

Can we refer to them as UltraFreedomHaters?

1. "UltraProg" - non-judgmental cis-gendered person of conscience capable of categorizing your privileges in a single unsubstantiated assertion.

5. When I'm president I'm going to bomb Iraq, Iran and every other geographic entity that starts with I.

1. And when your campaign gets Iran & Israel to make peace, will they give you the peace prize?

Nooo, because you're not proggie enough.

2. That might just work. You bomb both Iran and Israel and they might team up against you.

3. Actually guys, I was thinking more along the lines of Indiana and Iowa. But Israel is a good choice too, I guess.

4. Illinois, Indiana, Idaho, Iowa, Independence (all six of them), Israel, Italy, India, Indonesia, Ireland, Iceland, Islington, Imogene Coco, Idlywood, Ithaca (In three states plus the Greek island), Ipswich....

5. Even Iowa????

1. IT'S AT THE TOP OF THE LIST!

1. Warren, what.is.wrong.with.you.

The shouting is like looks that kill, sweetcakes.

6. Anybody know anything about gun safes?

1. Yes, I am a safe. I'm tired of storing my brother's arsenal in my garage. And I need him to buy a fucking house already and move this crap out of my fucking garage. It's all legal, FBI. So don't fucking start with me.

Well, I guess I don't know about safes in particular but you get the idea...

1. Tell me more about these guns. I'm not FBI. You've heard Id have to tell if I were?

1. Well, no, I cannot do that, straffinrun. First of all my brother is a total dick and he'd punch me right in the fucking face and then I'd have to do what older brothers do- get in a huge fight that resulted in either a leg or arm being almost broke because he's a former Marine and a lesser brother which means the most violent sort of altercation in a most fastidious fashion. That's what happened last time. What the fuck sort of moniker is this. Straffinrun.. Hardcore COD dude?

1. I swoop in strafing my enemies with logical fallacies and retreat to the safety of Huffpo where I reload.

1. The rest of time can recoil and close its eyes... straffinrun.... find your starship, dear man.

2. Gun safe? Oxymoron! My prog head will explode! Take it back.

1. No moniker of that sort is a prog. Not accepting it. Neg. Nein. Nicht.

7. Cops as agents provacateurs? Did they try to incite riots in Oakland?

http://www.inquisitr.com/16719.....e-looting/

8. My fav Reason poster ENB needs to post a weekend article at some point. that's all I have to say whilst drunk and listening to Guns and the Roses....

9. Ultimately, libertarians will rock America.... We will rock the nation.

10. OT: Thanks for the copy of Damon Roots' book, REASON! Just got it in the mail. Did not expect it at the level I donated this year. Plus, I thought I checked the "don't send me the swag" button, cause I already have a billion t shirts.

So - SURPRISE! I'll read it over my Christmas break, and give it a place next to my AUTOGRAPHED copy of "Declaration of Independents".

Thanks again!

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