Eric Garner

Surreal Scene as #DCFerguson Protest Shuts Down Street Near White House

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A #DCFerguson protester shuts down a street near the White House
Stephanie Slade

It's 5:40 p.m. in Washington, D.C., and protesters have shut down the intersection of 15th Street and Constitution Avenue NW. They are staging a "die-in," with dozens of marchers lying in the middle of the road, memorializing Mike Brown and Eric Garner, two unarmed black men killed by police this year. They are angry and they want justice. But amid chants of "If I can't breathe, you can't breathe!" and "Who shuts shit down? We shut shit down" another sound reaches us from the nearby White House Ellipse. There, a very different sort of event is happening: the ceremonial lighting of the National Christmas Tree. "This is what democracy looks like!" shouts the crowd as an upbeat rendition of "Rudolph the Red-Nosed Reindeer" plays in the background. At one point, the protesters fall quiet as the operatic vocal group The Tenors sings "O Holy Night." Then it ends and they're back to marching, singing "We Shall Overcome," and yelling at the many members of the press (myself included) to put down our cameras and join them.

A second demonstration is scheduled for 7 p.m. at Mount Vernon Square, and I would not be suprised if this group made its way to join the protest there. I'll post photos of the action later tonight—or you can check out my Twitter feed for live updates, including lots of pictures, right now.

UPDATE: Photos and video of the action are here.

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  1. December 2014: PROTESTS!!! DIE INS!!! THIS IS WHAT DEMOCRACY LOOKS LIKE!!

    February 2015: POLAR VORTEX!!! Eric who?

  2. Eric Garner is the reason we have a second amendment.

  3. “I’m here to support Eric”
    “Ok, here’s your button and sign”
    “Um, these say ‘Eric and Michael’. Got one that just says “I support Eric”?
    “Are you some kind of racist?”

  4. I see Reason senses the moment and is doubling down on the police brutality stories. Good.

    I also see that the community organizer-in-chief is doubling down on divisiveness by trying to make this about race. In the end will we see him do anything at all about police accountability, which he already acknowledged as being the solution?

    I won’t make that bet.

    1. Turning every police brutality incident into a racial incident is WHY we have more police brutality.

      It ignores the core problem by waving the shiny bauble of a race story in front of the media.

      Meanwhile, the tactics and process that gets us the brutality in the first place remains in full force.

      Continue killing away, police departments, just make sure when we pile up the bodies, they look like America.

      1. You can afford to have vile racists staffing the ranks of cops if they’re checked by stringent civilian oversight and civil and criminal sanctions for misbehavior. You cannot afford to leave in place a culture of consequence-free brutality and expect to weed out the racists.

        1. You cannot afford to leave in place a culture of consequence-free brutality and expect to weed out the racists.

          I don’t see why not. It is a controversial topic as to whether or not certain crimes of the Soviet state are attributable to ethnic hatreds, but I’d say they managed to find plenty of bullies and brutes who were non-racial in their hatreds. The multi-ethnic composition of the Cheka and NKVD prior to WWII would seem to support this.

    2. He’s making it about race because him and his goons sure as hell don’t want people coming together and putting a stop to this shit.

      1. Cigarettes are bad. Selling untaxed cigarettes is horrible. Quality of life is issue #1 for Democrats. Authority is to be respected. Killing the occasional black guy in the pursuit of the aforementioned, not acceptable.

        1. Wait until they make cat calling illegal.

          1. Based on what I found in the Feminist Evidence Locker, it would be predominantly black men being killed for that offense.

            Someone’s gonna have some ‘splainin’ to do.

            1. Someone’s gonna have some ‘splainin’ deflecting to do.

              fify

    3. white people go into denny’s carrying loaded automatic weapons and no one bats an eye black people get shot on sight for having toy or replica weapons

      why cant you bring yourselves to accept that race plays a factor? are you too hung up on the atomized individual to acknowledge that most people still think in terms of groups?

      1. What is this I don’t even

          1. I’ve seen loaded weapons in Denny’s several dozen times. None of them were automatic, and they were always carried by police.

            Nice try, though

            1. And the attempt to justify racism is touching also, doncha think?
              I mean we libertarians are just plain out to lunch thinking of people as individuals!

              1. “I mean we libertarians are just plain out to lunch thinking of people as individuals!”

                as a pathetic excuse to avoid confrnting racism in america and how youve benefited from such a system maybe? sorry but it exists and is real and no amount insane denialism and handwaving will make it go away

                1. Flaming Ballsack|12.4.14 @ 7:42PM|#
                  “as a pathetic excuse to avoid confrnting racism in america and how youve benefited from such a system maybe?”

                  Coming from a slimy racist, I’m to take note of this?
                  Fuck off, asshole.

                  1. The govt not fucking white people as bad as it does Blacks is a “benefit”.

                2. The flaming dingleberry appears to be assuming that everyone here is a white guy.

                  As usual libertarian critics are arguing with the libertarians in their heads.

                  1. Those of us that are not white are probably race traitors to this asshole.

                    1. Those of us that are not white are probably race traitors to this asshole.

                      I suspect Flaming Ballsack is of the SWPL-y variety. You typically don’t see blacks adopt that particular brand of weepy hysteria.

        1. Obvious troll is obvious.

      2. I imagine if I waved my loaded automatic weapon around, I’d get kilt by the po-po.

        And I’m still waiting for the Kelly Thomas protest in DC.

        1. I’ll say one thing. The cops were indicted.

      3. Its’ because of the fact that people think(don’t think) like you that the issue will never be resolved. Apparently, you love it when the cops kill innocent people.

        1. Again, as long as those innocents “look like America” it’s all good… it’s all good.

      4. White people camp in the desert with a knife.

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4TVRa8eAuBw

      5. white people go into denny’s carrying loaded automatic weapons and no one bats an eye black people get shot on sight for having toy or replica weapons

        Unarmed white man shot to death by police officer in Utah.

        White man Kelly Thomas beaten to death by cops who were subsequently exonerated.

        I can say race doesn’t play a factor due to the provable fact that cops kill white people frequently and end up not going to prison.

        It’s based on thug cops killing the proles, not race. I can post another 5 or 6 hundred stories of cops killing white people if you don’t believe me.

        1. I disagree in that I think race does, generally speaking, play a factor, but I do agree that a lot of people who make it seem like cops never commit brutality or misconduct towards white people, or that they’re held accountable when they do, exaggerate it a good amount. Especially when it comes to the being held accountable part. I think there is a big difference in the likelihood of being a victim of police misconduct based on race (I base this on a combination of statistics indicating this, such as the stop and frisk stats in NYC, as well as personal experience living as a white guy in South LA), but I think that regardless of your race, the overwhelming odds are that the cop is not going to be held properly accountable if you are a victim of misconduct and/or brutality.

    4. The ‘community organizer-in-chief’ is promising to equip cops with body cameras.

      I’m a bit puzzled by that. Body cameras might be sound plan of action. But what authority does his use to make a local cop in East Peoria where one?

      1. If you count up the shit presidential candidates and sitting presidents say they will do you will find that about 1/10 of it is shit they actually have the power to do.

        Someone plus me one lowered ocean please.

          1. Oh, you’re taking requests now?

      2. The ‘community organizer-in-chief’ is promising to equip cops with body cameras.

        Because the only way to fix too much government is with MOAR government!

        1. I’d be comfortable with this coming out of the existing DHS funds going to police forces.

          Existing DHS funds + this, not so much.

        2. Well, if Garner’s death was caught on camera, maybe the cop would have been indicted. Didn’t think of that, did you Mr. Smarty Pants?

    5. I see Reason senses the moment and is doubling down on the police brutality stories.

      Never let a tragedy go to waste.

  5. Pissing off people who are just trying to get home from work is always a winning tactic.

    1. The people trying to get home in this case are DC apparatchiks. No love lost.

  6. “At one point, the protesters fall quiet as the operatic vocal group The Tenors sings “O Holy Night.” ”

    This is just like when those Huns and Limeys left the trenches to celebrate Christmas together in December, 1914. Exactly like that.

  7. A second demonstration is scheduled for 7 p.m. at Mount Vernon Square, and I would not be suprised if this group made its way to join the protest there.

    Is it too much to ask that both groups clash in the streets like competing strains of 30s-era European nationalists?

  8. “It’s 5:40 p.m. in Washington, D.C., and protesters have shut down the intersection of 15th Street and Constitution Avenue NW.”

    Good. I propose that any and all future protests take place in DC.

    1. But then DC workers wouldn’t be able to get to work… that would be the equivalent of a government shutdo…

      Oh right. Yes. What Mr. Manhattan said!

      1. wink wink

        1. no homo

        2. However, when I look at P Brooks’ comment above, I realize that these people are being prevented from leaving work. So timing of protests could be a factor.

          1. They’re not actually working. As long as there’s no overtime involved, I’m still fine with it.

            1. Random: I was at the bookstore, checking out the magazine rack. I ran across some magazine called ‘FP’. I flipped it open. It was full of the most god-awful, DC-insider apparatchik, sniffy elitist intellectual fisting articles you could imagine, all of which seemed to just really want to come out and suggest full-on sterilization of the hoi polloi.

              I felt dirty just by touching it.

              *in the time I wrote this post, I realized the magazine was probably “foreign policy”. I guess if you’re “in the know”, that would have been obvious.

              1. I took a shit an an office bathroom where FP was the only magazine available. Fastest dump of my life.

                1. Sandi has also taken a shit there

  9. Bah humbug.

  10. Nothing will change, because those who are loudest about the Garner tragedy care more about race than issues of police brutality. That, and those who are most outspoken about this case are also usually the same people who support the idea that only cops should have guns.

  11. This is not the good kind of civil disobedience, like refusing to move to the back of the bus because of your race. Your right to protest ends when it interferes with my right to get somewhere. Stay on the fucking sidewalk and wave your signs and chant your chants, but the fact that you’re upset doesn’t give you the right to disrupt the lives of other people.

    Mike Brown was a violent criminal who autodarwinated. He’s a very poor symbol for any civil rights cause.

    1. autodarwinated

      This may be my new favorite word

      1. Thanks. I got it from Eric Raymond.

  12. OT, and I haven’t had much time for reading or posting today. Maybe this has already been posted here. But considering the UVA rape story and the overall rape epidemic in the USA, has anyone seen this yet? I wonder if this is where the person who possibly invented the UVA gang rape story got their inspiration.

    Lena Dunham is a big fat liar

    This is a very interesting read, as well as very disturbing. This is my favorite part:

    “Asking whether or not a victim is telling the truth is irrelevant,” Ms. Hess proclaimed. “It’s just not important if they are telling the truth.”

    I think it’s very important to understand the type of people we are dealing with here. We are dealing with people who think that you should be able to accuse anyone you want to of a felony and that it’s not really even important at all if you are making it all up, even it if ruins that person’s life.

    1. From the linked article:
      “At the time, Dunham says she was drunk, high on Xanax and cocaine, and therefore in no condition to give her consent.”

      Ummm…

      1. She’s a fucking nutcase. The way she writes about the encounter, you’d think it’s something she should have posted in Penthouse since she’s obviously fantasizing about getting fucked hard by a right winger with a big mustache and cowboy boots. But instead, because she’s mentally disturbed or just plain evil, she decides to accuse some innocent person of raping her just to try to make herself more popular with a bunch of weak minded people. Sick fucking bitch, she should be held accountable for this.

        1. This is perfect case for slander if Barry can prove harm resulted from these baseless accusations.

          Sue the lying slattern for all she’s got.

          1. It’s almost a certainty that harm has or will result.

        2. There’s a plus to all of this. The Obama administration reached out to her in the last election cycle. They think she’s influential.

          Outside of her tiny little bubble, people are disgusted by her. It’s the gift that keeps on giving.

        3. Purple cowboy boots. Which nobody else seems to recall anyone wearing.

          1. Somehow, you’d think that’d be noticed, too, wouldn’t you?

    2. The best part of this story is that Amanda Marcotte called Breitbart ‘rape deniers’ and compared them to Holocaust deniers:

      Amanda Marcotte @AmandaMarcotte
      Follow
      @daveweigel It’s really time for people to understand that rape denialism is like Holocaust denialism: Broad refusal to accept reality.

      See, when someone criticizes a specific story because they don’t believe the facts add up, that makes them a ‘denier.’ The only way to avoid being a denier is to uncritically believe what anyone tells you and never, ever engage in skepticism.

      1. Does she have an editor? Even an internal one? Because nobody is claiming “there’s no such thing as rape,” which would be the equivalent of Holocaust denial.

        Speaking of denial, the college rape crisis seems to not be much of a priority when the rapists aren’t white.

        1. Does she have an editor?

          The last one hung himself from a lamppost on Christmas Eve in utter despair at the human race’s ability to ever produce enough quality prose to outweigh the literary effect of a single Marcotte article.

        2. Given the shitstorm that has surrounded Jameis Winston over the past year, I seriously doubt that.

          1. Given the shitstorm that has surrounded Jameis Winston over the past year, I seriously doubt that.

            Winston’s a football player, so his social status trumps his racial status in this instance.

      2. Wow, it’s almost as worstest as CLIMATE CHANGE DENIERS!

      3. Yeah, Marcotte is really losing her shit this week. She might pull another Duke lacrosse if someone doesn’t restrain her.

          1. These people gave Amanda Marcotte five star reviews.

            Behold the sort of intellect who adores Amanda Marcotte:

            I bought this book to give to a friend for her birthday and couldn’t resist peeking inside first. Now I’ve finished the book and I’ll have to explain that her present has creases in it because I couldn’t put it down. It’s right up any 20-something’s alley.

            Don’t you dare try to talk for me, you son of a bitch.

            Amanda writes with the sarcasm and wit our generation to which our generation is used, while exposing this truth behind most anti-choice and wingnut conservative arguments: They hate and fear women and seek to control them.

            #smarttake

            1. Amanda writes with the sarcasm and wit our generation to which our generation is used

              You can’t fool me. That’s anonbot, ready to tell me all about how his sister makes $1453.90/month on her computer.

        1. Then I’d suggest that no one restrains her.

    3. Quite a paradox. It doesn’t matter if the victim is telling the truth, but if they’re not telling the truth, they may not be a victim…

  13. OT: I’m pretty sure Dunham’s alleged Republican rapist is Barry Garrett. I base this on a Michelle Malkin article on Oberlin hoaxes which mentions him being the president of the Oberlin College Republicans in 2006:

    http://michellemalkin.com/2013…..ese-years/

    College senior Barry Garrett, president of the OC Republicans, introduced the syndicated columnist, blogger, Fox News contributor and former Competitive Institute Fellow as the obvious choice to start off what he described as a “sorely needed series” that would seek to “shatter political homogeneity.”

    1. I don’t know who that is.

      But if you’re telling me that he fucked Lena Dunham voluntarily, he’s dead to me.

      1. I have a very hard time believing a good, solid, prog like her would be caught dead with the mortal enemy of progdom: a white male Republican.

        1. Maybe she was confused by his purple cowboy boots.

          1. Yeah, that’s a really plausible detail I believe without reservation.

            I know when I was in college, I could always spot the College Republicans based on pornstaches and purple cowboy boots they all wore.

            1. I had the pornstache, but my cowboy boots were grey. Purple boots? GAY!

              1. But were you a college Republican?

                I looked like Sweetums from The Muppets, except not as well-dressed.

                http://i.imgur.com/k7JfSlO.jpg

                1. I didn’t identify as a Republican. I was pretty confused about politics at the time and cared a lot more about the opposite sex.

                  1. cared a lot more about the opposite sex.

                    Ahh… so the truth comes out. You were a RAPIST!

                    Welcome to the new McCathyism.

                    1. Well shit, Sudden, I’m a member of the white patriarch, why would I even try to deny it?

                  2. I didn’t identify as a Republican. I was pretty confused about politics at the time and cared a lot more about the opposite sex.

                    It’s ok, we all experimented a bit when we were young.

                    *looks around nervously*

                    Right?

                    1. I’m here for you Paul..

                      *Puts arm casually, but a little intimately around Paul.’s shoulders*

        2. Read that article I linked to, apparent to me from reading it, being fucked hard by a mustachioed cowboy Republican is one of the fantasies inside of her warped mind, and that’s one of the less disgusting ones for sure.

      2. I don’t know who that is.

        But if you’re telling me that he fucked Lena Dunham voluntarily, he’s dead to me.

        Allegedly, he told John Nolte in the Breitbart story that he didn’t even know Lena Dunham. So it’s possible they never had sex.

        Of course, this is a situation in which a whole host of untrustworthy sources are arguing with each other. Do I trust a narcissistic idiot like Dunham or do I place my faith in the Breit-tards?

        I’ll withhold judgment until someone a bit more reputable interjects into this situation.

        1. Please, the whole “Breitbart is untrustworthy” meme is based (AFAIK) on that one Shirley Sherrod tape, which someone leaked to them in part, before they got the whole tape. As far as I can tell, they are at least as trustworthy a source as the New York Times.

          (Not that I believe anyone uncritically, but I dislike the “Everything in [news source] is false because they were wrong once” attitude.)

          1. As far as I can tell, they are at least as trustworthy a source as the New York Times.

            That’s a mighty low bar to clear. I think the New York Times is pretty untrustworthy too.

            As for your claim about the ‘meme,’ I don’t give a shit about the Sherrod tape. Breitbart didn’t actually do anything wrong in that instance. On the other hand, they’ve published articles by Pamela Geller whining that a Muslim fireman who died on 9/11 got a street named after him and they’ve published articles by Kurt Schlicther freaking out about Bronies.

            I think those sorts of articles have colored my opinion of them more than the Sherrod controversy.

            1. I have no idea how Pamela Gellar became a conservative celebrity. Joe the Plumber I somewhat understand; his fame was circumstantial. Gellar OTOH is the internet equivalent of a street crazy — even given that a post 9/11 conservative would be interested in anti-Islamic viewpoints, she is a low-quality source relative to others (Daniel Pipes, Robert Spencer, etc). She is Alex Jones with bigger tits.

              (Oddly, she self-identifies as an Objectivist — what the hell, right?)

              1. I cut her a lot of slack because I can understand how a Jewish woman feels threatened by Islam.

                1. My jaw literally just dropped. Do you have zero self-awareness? Change “Jewish” to “black” and “Islam” to “white man” (or use words like “gay” and “Christian,” etc.) and it would the prime sort of comment you would lampoon if it were posted on a progressive site. She insinuated that a man that gave his life saving people on 9/11 wouldn’t have done it had he known it was an Islamic terror attack, and that it was a travesty that he had a street named after him, and he say she deserves sympathy because she’s Jewish? Wow

                  1. Your analogies are not at all equivalent. Islam is a religion that persecutes Jews. That’s the reality, in history and in present-day practice. And while every single Muslim may not do it, it’s a core part of the religion, because Allah tells them to do it in the Koran, and the Koran is the direct word of Allah. You aren’t a Muslim unless you believe the Koran.

                    While there are Christians who hate gays or blacks or whatever, there is little in the Bible to justify either, and few if any Christian preachers who tell followers to kill gays (or anyone). OTOH, there are plenty of Muslim preachers telling followers to kill Jews. Heck, there’s Palestinian kid’s TV programming telling them to kill Jews.

                    So yes, I have sympathy for people who are officially targeted by a worldwide religion that contains millions of violent fanatics and their supporters.

                    1. “Your analogies are not at all equivalent.”

                      Of course. When progressives do it, they’re race baiting victomology-promoting moral relativists. When you do it, it’s perfectly rational.

                      “Islam is a religion that persecutes Jews.”

                      Good thing Christianity has no history of persecuting Jews and gays. And how can you say the Bible doesn’t support that? The OT calls for stoning homosexual men, and the New Testament condemns it in multiple places as well. Clearly you have absolutely no bias or double standard in evaluating the two religions. Also, Tonio had a link just today about a Christian preacher in Arizona calling for gays to be killed. It wasn’t until a decade ago that sodomy was legal in every state, and that only happened because of a Supreme Court decision. Furthermore, do you have to be a victim of state-sanctioned murder before you can have sympathy? Most Christians may not want to kill gays, but gay people still suffer a lot of discrimination and hatred in their lives from that group (obviously not all, but a very significant amount). And I used white, not Christians, with regards to black people. There are still millions of black people in this country who grew up in a time where they were officially second class citizens.

                    2. Your examples only go to prove my point: what some Christians did in the past, and what a scattered few say today. That’s entirely different from Islam, both in theory and in practice. Partly it has to do with the difference between the ways Christians see the Bible and Muslims see the Koran, which I’ve gone into in the past but don’t have time for now.

                    3. “So yes, I have sympathy for people who are officially targeted by a worldwide religion that contains millions of violent fanatics and their supporters.”

                      Yes, Pam Geller has truly been so oppressed in her life. Totally excuses slandering a hero by insinuating that he was a supporter of terrorism. Mohammed Salman Hamdani did more good on the day he died than Pam Geller will ever do in her life. The vast majority of Jewish people I know would vehemently disagree with the notion that her religion or ethnicity excuses such appalling behavior.The fact that you’re actually defending her speaks volumes.

              2. I have no idea how Pamela Gellar became a conservative celebrity.

                Every political party has it’s crazy lightning rod. Were we not starting this topic on Lena Dunham?

    2. I don’t know who he is, but thanks for the link. I’m interested in following this. I have a particular dislike for Dunham after reading portions of that sick fucking book that she wrote, she’s disgusting. I hope they nail her big time for this shit.

      In the article it mentions one guy who it may or may not be is scared as hell and lawyered up already.

      1. I don’t know who he is, but thanks for the link. I’m interested in following this. I have a particular dislike for Dunham after reading portions of that sick fucking book that she wrote, she’s disgusting. I hope they nail her big time for this shit.

        Yeah, she actually is a deeply disturbed individual. My feeling about the whole ‘child molestation’ thing is that the fact that Dunham did that stuff when she was like 7 doesn’t mean anything, but the fact that she talks about it at 28 like it’s just a normal story is grotesque.

        The worst part of the molestation allegations was actually when she masturbated in bed next to her sister because at that point Dunham was like 17 and her sister was I believe 11. That actually is predatory behavior.

        1. She can write a book and be as sick as she wants to be, I’m free to ignore her.

          I had never even heard of this woman before, I watch very little TV and when I do it’s typically news or documentaries.

          When I read some snippets from her book on a news site for the first time, it actually almost made me physically ill, and I’ve read plenty of sick shit before.

          So, what I’m saying is that I’ll defend her for writing whatever she wants, no matter how sick or disturbing it is. It’s free speech, which I’ll never stop defending.

          The issue is that she’s using her position as a celebrity to recklessly insinuate that someone committed a felony, a potentially life ruining offense and it’s looking more and more likely that she made it all up. And even after being questioned about it, she’s refusing to verify the story or not.

  14. OT:
    I can tell you that submariners arn’t particularly sharp:
    ‘Hey, Ned, let’s rig this camera and no one will ever know where the images were taken! And when we let the guys see ’em no one will ever say anything!’

    “Navy: Women secretly filmed in shower aboard sub”
    http://www.navytimes.com/story…../19827247/

    1. Sailors are sex-starved perverts?

      MIND. BLOWN.

      Next you’ll be telling me they’re heavy drinkers.

    2. What life on a sub is really like:

      “Ensure that every room in your house is drastically different in temperature. If no condensation appears when you open a door, the temperature difference is not great enough. Make sure your bedroom only has two temperatures (100F or 20F) and nothing between. Make sure of hourly cycles throughout the night.”

      Remind me why women would want to do this?

      http://www.decklog.com/SSN-589.asp

      1. What’s the prob with temperature control down there? Is it the pressure or global warming hiding in the depths?

  15. And now for a little levity. The Reader’s Digest condensed version of the novelization of Jaws 2 contains a rape scene. Involving sharks. Written from the shark’s perspective.

    Dawn had begun to shimmer faintly down to her as she passed Montauk. Her eyes were flat, black, and unblinking, giving her an air of profound wisdom. She had excellent vision even in this dim light. But she continued to navigate as before, blindly and mindlessly as a computer would, using the electro-receptor ampullae that covered her head.

    Two years before, not far from here, she had been hit by a male not much smaller than she. Despite her superior strength, he had somehow borne her to the muddy bottom. There, passive and supine, she had received both his yard-long claspers in her twin vents.

    1. Actually “Grendel” by John Gardner is a pretty good book.

      Which is basically ‘beowulf’ from the POV of a frustrated monster who has a really bad relationship with his mom

  16. I see that they’re going for the “Drum Circle” Method of Social Protest:

    Make yourself as loud, visible and obnoxious as possible, for… ??

    I’m still not clear on what they want. Bodycams? Diversity on the force? Sensitivity training?

    1. It is frustrating that here at reason, this was “News” when it actually happened, and there was less ‘incoherent outrage’ and more sober reflection on the constant series of nutpunches we endure over police misconduct…

      …and yet the LOOK AT ME!! STRUCTURAL RACISMS! DOWN WITH CAPITALISTS!!!-crowd shows up for the drum-circles and lying in the street, and has zero ability to actually apply any logical argument that would aim to actually *prevent* Violent Authority from increasing its presence in people’s lives. No, they probably want NEW AND BETTER AND MORE LAWS, and maybe some TOP MEN too

      1. There is a disconnect between the people who try to arrive at solutions to the problem, and the people who show up for the protests-o’-the-month.

        It’s a micro-scale version of the problem with democracy: your people who know how to think about a problem (or in some cases, whether there is an appropriate object-level response) don’t/can’t efficiently or effectively talk to your people who will actually show up to vote.

      2. …”and maybe some TOP MEN too”…

        I got it!
        If we have a woman president, she’ll fix all this! We could elect her because she’ll bring us Hope! And CHANGE!
        Whadaya think?

        1. “Her ovaries and uterus will save us!”

      3. Well, yeah! I mean, like the only reason government abuses its power is because it doesn’t have the power to reign in abuse! Look at that fire! It’s out of control! Quick! Pass me the gasoline!

    2. I’m pretty sure what they want is indictments of police officers who murder people.

  17. Even before her pregnancy, she outweighed any creature in the sea except for some cetaceans and her own relatives, the basking shark and the whale shark. At thirty feet and almost two tons, she was longer than a killer whale and heavier by half.

    Now, near term, her girth was enormous. In her left uterus squirmed three young. In her right lived five, three females and two males. The smallest was a little over three feet long and weighed only twenty-two pounds. Nevertheless, he had survived in utero for almost two years, eating thousands of unfertilized eggs and, with his remaining brothers and sisters, some thirty weaker siblings.

  18. As long as this is about race, not the general us-vs-them attitude the cops have towards the people they supposedly serve, nothing will be accomplished.
    If anything things will get worse as people demand more government to fix problems that government creates.

    1. White America’s scary delusion: Why its sense of black humanity is so skewed

      It is deeply apparent to most black people that the legal proceedings in the grand jury deliberations were a farce. Whether we consider the deliberate incorrect instructions given to jurors by the prosecutor, or the refusal to challenge the incendiary and inhumane characterizations of Michael Brown as “it,” “demon” and “hulk,” black people know that a lie has been perpetrated.

      Too many white people lie comfortably in bed each night with the illusion that justice was served, that the system worked, that the evidence vindicated the view that they need to believe ? that white men do not deliberately murder black boys for sport in this day and time and get away with it. Most well-meaning white people need to believe this. For me as both teacher of different kinds of epistemology and as a black person, I do not have the luxury of believing this. I do not have the luxury of stepping over the bodies of Eric Garner, John Crawford and Tamir Rice, leaving my unasked questions strewn alongside their lifeless bodies.

      1. Ron Bailey linked to a Reason article from last year earlier today. In the comments, Serious Man had posted this article from 2013. It is brilliant:

        It is difficult to imagine benevolent geniuses as black, it seems, but quite easy to imagine villains as black. This is telling, isn’t it? Telling that the white imagination, when provided in a book with descriptions of a “good guy” — intelligent, valuable, kind, even gentle — imagines that character as white (like themselves) but when provided with descriptions of a villain, a killer, a dangerous maniac… imagines that character as a black man. Morgan Freeman. Who has overwhelmingly portrayed “good” characters in his career as an actor. He even played God once, if memory serves. What is it, then, that causes the white imagination to provide his face as a stand-in for what they imagine as a ruthless child killer in a fictional world?

        His blackness. And only that.

        WHY ARE WHITE PEOPLE SO RACIST TOWARDS MORGAN FREEMAN!?!

        1. But Morgan Freeman playing the kind of characters he claims whites can’t imagine refutes his point. People imagine him plaing those characters.

      2. Too bad the grand jury, which included blacks, and various black witnesses, agreed that Michael Brown acted violent and scary before his death. He wasn’t killed “for sport,” he was killed in self-defense.

      3. Whether we consider the deliberate incorrect instructions given to jurors by the prosecutor, or the refusal to challenge the incendiary and inhumane characterizations of Michael Brown as “it,” “demon” and “hulk,” black people know that a lie has been perpetrated.

        There is certainly no doubt that the GJ process as it unfolded in Furgadishu was a farce (presentation of exculpatory evidence, accused testifying, etc.) and the DA (among many others) should be subsequently disbarred and fired for that.

        But it was equally farcical to even convene a GJ for the case. The evidence collected clearly demonstrated Mssr. Brown’s actions wrt Officer Wilson. The mob had no interest in truth nor justice, only blood. They wanted a kangaroo court to affirm their pre-conceived notions and a kangaroo court is what they got.

  19. They’d better be careful. Last time there was a disturbance on the road near the White House, capitol police shot a woman to death when she was cornered and no longer a threat.

    1. And then got a round of applause from Congress.

      1. She was in a car, man! It’s like a gigantic metal dog!

        OFFICER SAFETY, WE ALL HAVE TO MAKE IT HOME AT NIGHT

    2. So no indictment then?

  20. In case anyone missed it, the first Hillary 2016 ad is here, with singing cowboys and shattering glass ceilings!

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfU3hI8ML30

    1. ‘Stand With’ Hillary? Really? Haven’t I heard that phrase somewhere before?

      1. I didn’t turn the sound on, but please tell me that’s a joke?

        1. Oh, it’s very real. I learned about from someone who saw it on TV.

          1. Yeah, the white working guy demo is really going to go for Hillary….

            1. Country music is more aimed at the womenfolk these days anyhow.

              I guaran-fucking-tee this is a way to shore up IA and SC, early primary states that fucked her over in 2008.

      2. Vote for a candidate because of his/her historical significance as a first? Haven’t I heard that hype somewhere before?

        1. What difference at this point does it make?

          1. Also, please tell me, that if that is not a joke, that the singing cowboy in the video has neutered himself and went to join a monastery somewhere high in the Himalayas where he will self flagellate himself for the rest of eternity.

        2. Vote for Rand Paul! The first eye surgeon president!

          1. Planning on it.

          2. Make him wait until 2020. The tagline writes itself:

            Rand Paul, the opthamologist with that 2020 vision

      3. at the urinal?

    2. Yeah, when I think of Shrillery, cowboys come to mind!

    3. It is no surprise that the Brokeback Mountain crowd would be voting for Hillary.

    4. That was the worst thing ever in the history of things.

    1. Thanks a lot man. Now that I had to run to the bathroom and barf, at least I can eat again now!

    2. I’m glad I look at links so I don’t have to click on ones like that.

        1. Sorry. I don’t trust you anymore.

        2. Aww gads, the one on the left is Lena! I used to like your links!

          1. Fool you once, shame on me. Fool you twice shame on you.

        3. It was an improvement at least.

    3. Dick.

      1. Pro tip: hover your mouse pointer over the orange text, then look down at the bottom of the screen. Read the hyperlink.

        If it contains something like “Lena-Dunham-mesh-shirt,” LEAVE IT BE!

    4. It’s not spank-bank material, but it is eye-cleanser nonetheless.

      http://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvs…..iance.html

      1. Since I already knew that I wouldn’t get to see any tits(meow) or ass, I didn’t click that one.

      2. Where’s the eye cleanser? Is it standing behind the 14 year old boy?

        1. That’s not a woman, that’s a 14 year old boy, baby!

        2. That boy’s older brother is reasonably good looking. Could stand to spend more time in the sun though.

      3. Sarc you should probably stick to eyebleach.com, rather than divulge your NAMBLA interests…

      4. Bunch of chubby-chasers.

    5. It’s sort of fascinating how unattractive she tries to look.

      1. I assumed that it came naturally.

    6. In some ways I feel sorry for Lena Dunham. She has a certain amount of talent, but it’s almost entirely destroyed by all the clich?s of modern progthink. Plus, she’s just incredibly homely and unsexy. If you are a woman in your 20s, and you lose out in sex appeal to (e.g.) a young Maureen Stapleton, my God, you must dread the future. She’s hit her peak as about a 3, and I see no indication how it’s anything but downhill from here.

  21. CNN Headline:

    Protester: If we have to march like the ’60s, we will

    20 years late, but I’ll take it.

      1. Deviation is punished by death.

      1. That’s a bunch of whiteys you damn racist. We have to stop this police brutality by excluding the whiteys!

          1. FYTW works both ways, as long as you have the power of violence.

        1. If it’s Megadeth, it almost has to be good.

  22. The New Republic’s implosion continues apace.

    The turmoil at The New Republic is a sharp reversal from the optimism of just two years ago when Chris Hughes, a founder of Facebook, bought the magazine. His purchase was treated as a life preserver for a prestigious title that had struggled with declining circulation and the financial troubles that had afflicted print journalism. Mr. Hughes was praised for recruiting Mr. Foer, a former New Republic editor, back to the magazine. He said his acquisition was motivated by an interest in “the future of high-quality long-form journalism.”

    But on Thursday, many other staff members, upset over The New Republic’s management and future, threatened to follow Mr. Foer and Mr. Wieseltier, who are widely respected in the industry, out the door, according to staff members. The writers Jonathan Chait and Ryan Lizza, both contributing editors, took to Twitter to request that they be removed from the masthead.

    1. At what point does your implosion stop? Is that when you become a point so dense that even light cannot escape?

      /The Democrats

    2. Oh, many other staff members will be following them out the door – voluntarily or otherwise.

    3. “He said his acquisition was motivated by an interest in “the future of high-quality long-form journalism.”

      So he bought a commie rag?
      I guess he couldn’t be bothered to research the purchase.

      1. The New Republic isn’t always so bad. They aren’t The Nation or Mother Jones. They can be evenhanded.

        1. Except for Brian Beutler and Julia Ioffe, who both suck.

        2. “They aren’t The Nation or Mother Jones. They can be evenhanded.”

          Apparently you’ve failed to recognize that this “even-handedness” is the problem that everyone is worried about.

          1. There was a lot of lefty vituperation in the comments. “My God, they defended Israel! And welfare reform! Death to the heretics!”

  23. I’ve been playing Mass Effect, the first one, for the last few days. It’s a game that I have refused to play because of a gaming quarrel with my brother since it was released … 7 years ago?

    Anyway, I can’t stop playing this… or it can’t stop playing me? In Soviet Murika, game play you!

    1. I also didn’t play them at all (not usually my thing) until ME3 came out, then played through all tree in succession. They are all at least equally good, and I’d argue that 2 and 3 were both better than 1.

      1. They are all at least equally good, and I’d argue that 2 and 3 were both better than 1

        I was really hoping that they would be. I bought the trilogy on Amazon’s Black Friday Sale. The first one is almost shockingly good. At least the story line and the visuals are outstanding for a 7 year old game.

        The RPG elements and combat are so-so, but the story is epic. Again, like I said, it’s a game that plays you, but it’s not a bad thing in this case.

      2. The first one ia an RPG, the other two are basically just shooters with some vague RPG elements

        1. Ok, you just ruined it for me. I don’t even consider the first one as that much of an RPG, just a FPS movie with a slight hint of RPG.

    2. Survivor Guilt Renegade. Also Liara.

  24. Government has enabled the police to become a “jayvee” miltary, just look at Waco. How the hell are they going to “fix it?”
    I’m all for police’s need for force to do their job, but the NYC case is beyond the pale. It is inexcusable. Making it about race a) makes it divisive and only about 10% of the population and b) gives the media more race war bait.

    I respect the difficult job police do but that not excuse them from being public servants and filmed

    1. How the hell are they going to “fix it?”

      The same way they fix everything else? Send a shit-ton of other people’s money to their cronies in ways that accomplish – at best – nothing?

  25. OT: Anthropologist writes NYT Op-Ed about differences between Westerners and Asians, while throwing in some superiority of collectivism bullshit at the end. Her entire thesis is destroyed due to the fact that she doesn’t know shit about rice.

    Rice is a finicky crop. Because rice paddies need standing water, they require complex irrigation systems that have to be built and drained each year. One farmer’s water use affects his neighbor’s yield. A community of rice farmers needs to work together in tightly integrated ways.

    Not wheat farmers. Wheat needs only rainfall, not irrigation. To plant and harvest it takes half as much work as rice does, and substantially less coordination and cooperation. And historically, Europeans have been wheat farmers and Asians have grown rice.

      1. C’mon HM cut her some slack. She is trying to win the Lysenko trophy.

      2. Yes, it’s so sad how China turned away from collectivism and toward more individualism, resulting in tens of millions of deaths… oh wait, the opposite happened!

    1. Wait, so her argument is that collectivism vs. individualism is based entirely on two kinds of crops? Really? There are no other factors influencing culture beyond what kind of agriculture they engage in?

      Nor is there much rice within the Tea Party. Senator Ted Cruz, Republican of Texas, declared recently that all a man needed was a horse, a gun and the open land, and he could conquer the world.

      …?

      Wheat doesn’t grow everywhere. Start-ups won’t solve all our problems. A lone cowboy isn’t much good in the aftermath of a Hurricane Katrina. As we enter a season in which the values of do-it-yourself individualism are likely to dominate our Congress, it is worth remembering that this way of thinking might just be the product of the way our forefathers grew their food and not a fundamental truth about the way that all humans flourish.

      Cool, then why are the individualistic European countries filthy rich compared to the collectivist Asians? I like that she doesn’t bother actually looking at the relative success of these countries.

      1. Also, who rebounded more quickly, mean old individualist America after Hurricane Katrina or the collectivist Philippines after Typhoon Haiyan?

          1. No, I was right the first time.

            Posting after a few. This is me in Agile Cyborg mode.

            1. I know Agile Cyborg, HM, and you’re no Agile Cyborg.

              Some Agile Cyborg highlights:

              Christ, is this a fukin Gilmore bazooka fired into the brains of the hopelessly fucked up..?

              Gilmoratopia sufferage.. like Gilomora FUKIN topia needs a FUKIN windsor YA fuckin trite whore.

              Do you knot love the millenial virgin? He likely would slather his fast hair onto your stiff dick ’till jackolation.

              Winston emailed me… he loves le’ shape o’ Hyperion dick…

              I want nuttin to do with this mad sexy nonsense…..

              1. Can one ever really “know” AC?

                1. Sssshhhh! He’s sleeping right now.

              2. When the state decrees that rice is a common currency, then the common people use salt as currency.

      2. I thought it was all because the white dudes had more cargo. Hmm, they lied to me.

          1. Vanuatu… why does that sound familiar?… Oh, yeah, Kava… yeah, that’s it, I think I have a big ol bag of that stached in the cupboard. I forgot about it, time to make up another batch of that foul tasting concoction.

            1. Just get the extract in capsule form.

      3. I wouldn’t call Europeans richer than Japanese or South Koreans. I think Japan has a higher per capita GDP than the UK.

    2. I preferred this version

  26. Liberals continue to lose their shit over the fact that cigarette taxes contributed to Garner’s death

    CNN legal analyst Jeffrey Toobin blasted Sen. Rand Paul (R-KY) on Thursday for blaming Eric Garner’s death on New York City’s cigarette taxes, Media Matters reported.

    “It’s an extrapolation,” Toobin told host Wolf Blitzer. “It’s an inclusion of an agenda item on Rand Paul’s agenda, which is perfectly appropriate to have, but one that had nothing to do with why Eric Garner is dead. He’s dead because of abusive police tactics, not because of high cigarette taxes.”

    […]

    Toobin said on Thursday that Paul was “the only person” blaming Garner’s death on the cigarette tax, which was a misreading of the case.

    “This confrontation took place as part of an overall police philosophy in New York of cracking down on quality of life crimes,” Toobin said. “Like turnstile-jumping. Like using squeegees on cars by homeless people. This had nothing to do with cigarette taxes.”

    No shit Toobin, you just proved Paul’s point about too many stupid things being illegal. But to the stupid government can’t ever be wrong or harmful if it has the best intentions!

    1. “This confrontation took place as part of an overall police philosophy in New York of cracking down on quality of life crimes,” Toobin said. “Like turnstile-jumping. Like using squeegees on cars by homeless people. This had nothing to do with cigarette taxes.”

      HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. What a goddamn idiot.

      Rand Paul says ‘police are told to enforce minor laws and that results in dangerous situations.’ Toobin says ‘there is an overall police philosophy where they enforce all the minor laws’ and idiotically thinks he’s disproven Paul’s argument.

      1. Amash made a statement about it also.

        What did Hillary have to say?

        1. “What did Hillary have to say?”

          Said nobody ever.
          Expect for you, just now.

      2. It’s that disconnect on the part of progressives. Their main concern is to make sure that cops are “nice” so that they give an outwardly positive representation of government. From this stem concerns about ethnic composition, elimination of extreme scenarios like the one visited on Gardner, and public propriety. This is all held as an equal or higher priority than the original mandate of the cops.

        Classical liberals by and large understand that the original mandate of cops includes lots of “not-nice” things which can bleed into areas we want cops to be “nice”, and that the best way to limit these tendencies is to limit the avenues for abuse (i.e., law) and encourage that the original mandate regarding violent and property crimes be fulfilled professionally and with recourse for the citizenry if it is violated.

        IMO the expressions of these respective philosophies can be seen in the UK and Chile, respectively. The UK has “nice” cops who look nice — and are useless at fulfilling their mandate while also enforcing lots of petty bullshit. Chile has an extremely professional police force which, while polite, is not messing around (and also has arguably the least expansive mandate in Latin America).

        1. IMO the expressions of these respective philosophies can be seen in the UK and Chile, respectively. The UK has “nice” cops who look nice — and are useless at fulfilling their mandate while also enforcing lots of petty bullshit. Chile has an extremely professional police force which, while polite, is not messing around (and also has arguably the least expansive mandate in Latin America).

          Not coincidentally, Chile also has among the lowest crime rates on Earth despite being on the most violent continent.

          It’s depressing that Chile’s success came from listening to Milton Friedman, but now, if anything, America would be vastly better off if we’d just copy everything Chile is doing.

          1. Yeah, if you don’t get killed in a 10.1 earthquake, maybe you’re good.

            I might very well wind up in South America. Unfortunately, I can only speak English and Portuguese and that’s sort of limiting on that continent. I don’t really understand or speak any Spanish at all. And I don’t know if English is widely spoken in Chili. But I doubt it because of how remote it is. I mean, even in Brazil, English is not very widely spoken.

            1. If you’re looking for countries that don’t suck where they aren’t retarded on economics and the cops probably won’t kill you, New Zealand and Australia are both good. They’re also English speaking.

              Both Australia and New Zealand have VERY strict immigration laws, I believe, so that might be tough.

              Australia also has grotesque hate speech laws. That’s a huge negative.

              1. Most of the places that are high on economic liberty seem to extensively restrict immigration. Switzerland is a bitch to immigrate to (I know, I tried it).

                1. In the case of Switzerland, they are incredibly traditionalist. That traditionalism reflects in their extremely democratic nature and very decentralized government, but it also has some negative consequences as well. There is a Swiss Canton that didn’t let women vote until the early 1990’s – although they also are allowed to use broadswords as voter ID in that Canton, so they make up for their sexism by being badasses.

                2. Switzerland did awesomely reject government healthcare too, and here are some numbers regarding their economy.

                  They’re running a .3% surplus with taxes a full 12% of GDP lower than the Eurozone average.

                  Their public debt is 35% compared to 90% for the Eurozone and they have like a 3% unemployment rate.

                  Switzerland is amazing.

                  1. I expected the Swiss love from Swiss Servator.

                    Also, fondue and the LHC.

        2. Hmm. You’ve made me more interested in Chile. As I look for a place to retire, I am of course interested in that country because of it’s reputation for economic freedom. But I don’t know much about it in regards to personal freedom.

          I also don’t speak Spanish.

          1. I haven’t been there in ages, but from what I have heard it has gotten even better than the last time I was there. I am planning on scoping the place out for retirement once the girls are gone and it’s just me and wifey.

            The capital (Santiago) is close to what you would expect to pay in a low-to-mid cost city in the US. The economy is still very focused on its mining interests, but fairly diversified. Lots of pretty, pretty coastline. Far less of a “party” culture than Argentina or Brazil; if the Argentines consider themselves the Italy of Latin America, the Chileans certainly see themselves as its Germany. Expect more punctuality and less of a laid-back style relative to other countries in Latin America, but also much more respect for property and less crazy politics (they have a socialist party which is very moderate).

            Socially, there is much of what you’d expect from a Latin American and Catholic country. The abortion laws are famously strict, perhaps the strictest in the world; OTOH they also have relatively relaxed laws on prostitution and have a mild take on sexual orientation (last Presidential election the rightist candidate released an ad with a gay couple prominently and explicitly featured, which would be rare in most of Latin America).

            1. Personally, I think it’s one of the best jumping-off points to travel in South America, as well. Unlike many South American countries they make it relatively easier to retire there, or so I’ve heard (I have dual American/Panamanian citizenship so I don’t need to worry about it).

              Spanish knowledge is a must but it is a very intuitive and easy language to pick up; Hispanics are friendly and gesticulate often, which also helps learn the language socially. Many English-only speakers I know can speak the language at a functional level after just 6 months of immersion.

              1. Oh, and gun laws are very good for Latin America. Nowhere near as good as the US laws, of course, but with Russia’s recent liberalization you never know. I expect most of the gun culture is rural and agrarian, as with anywhere in Latin America.

                1. Oh, and gun laws are very good for Latin America. Nowhere near as good as the US laws, of course, but with Russia’s recent liberalization you never know. I expect most of the gun culture is rural and agrarian, as with anywhere in Latin America.

                  The gun laws in Chile are one of the big pulls from the perspective of an American looking to leave the US.

                  I’ve been considering moving out if things get much worse, which I think they probably will, but unfortunately everywhere I’d think of going has one or two glaring anti-liberty policies that would annoy the hell out of me. Australia is overall pretty good, but their hate speech laws are atrocious.

                  Chile doesn’t seem to have any major deficiencies, although like Hyperion I don’t speak Spanish so I’d probably need to learn.

                  1. Spanish is a fairly simple language to learn for English speakers.

                    There are entire cities within Los Angeles where you could rent a house for a year and find yourself fluent by the time the lease is up.

            2. Well, my wife loves the country. But it’s been a decade since she was there and I’ve never been. I want to go and she want’s to go again, so hopefully we will go soon.

              But again, our disadvantage is that we don’t speak Spanish.

              We already own property in Brazil, have family, and speak the language. It’s beautiful there, I love it. But, it’s expensive, can be unsafe, and unfortunately, they just elected Dilma and her shit labor party again, though barely. But we Norte Americanos can’t talk, we elected Obama twice.

              1. I have dual American/Panamanian citizenship so I don’t need to worry about it

                My wife and I want to visit Panama. Have you been to the highland areas around Chiriqui? It sounds awesome.

                I’m also interested in Uruquay. We’re always watching documentaries about it on Globo TV and it looks very interesting.

                Of all the drawbacks about Brazil economically and security wise, I always feel more free there than I do in the US, don’t let anyone who’s never been there bullshit you about that. So there’s at least that, and the climate, if you like hot and humid.

                1. Panama is an absurdly cool and varied place for being so small, and Panama City has gotten *huge*. It used to be ridiculously corrupt and poor, and now it’s ridiculously corrupt and moderately rich (mostly on account of implementation of free-market reforms by corrupt administration and judiciary). Lots of Americans, so you’ll probably find people who can speak English most places you go (though not as many as in Costa Rica). In Chiraqui I’ve been to David, which is very pretty and cheap as far as tourist-y destinations in Panama go.

                  Uruguay seems cool, but I have never been. From what I’ve heard, it’s basically a suburb of Buenos Aires that’s never gotten over that basic fact, but on the plus side never suffered Peronism so it’s a bit more sane than Argentina.

                  I know what you mean about Latin America “feeling” freer; objectively law in the US is more free but I never felt personally stifled in Latin America and greatly miss its rhythms and the people.

                2. don’t let anyone who’s never been there bullshit you about that.

                  I’ve been there. It’s a shithole. Poverty-stricken, profoundly corrupt, borderline warzone violent, and just generally miserable.

                  Your “feelz” are likely based on being an outsider who pays little attention to politics.

                  Brazil, outside of the ultra-rich enclaves and tourist areas, is a fucking hole. It actually compares somewhat equivalently to what Venezuela is now.

              2. If you speak Brazilian Portuguese, I can’t imagine the jump to Spanish would be very challenging.

                1. The syntax is similar, but it’s very different.

                  Not saying we can’t learn it, I just see learning a 3rd language as challenging enough that I see it as a disadvantage, because it really is challenging for most people our age to become fluent in a 3rd language. And not being fluent in a language where almost no one speaks your native language and living there… Well, ask my wife, she struggled a lot and still does sometimes living here in the US, even after 5 years, although her progress is amazing the last year or so. But a 3rd language? I don’t know.

                2. FWIW, I have a friend who is Mexican who studied abroad in Brazil, and she said that her knowing Spanish didn’t help much when it came to Portuguese.

                  1. FWIW, I have a friend who is Mexican who studied abroad in Brazil, and she said that her knowing Spanish didn’t help much when it came to Portuguese.

                    It will help some, but not that much. It will only help in that the syntax of the language is similar, and that there are a few words that are the same, and some words that are spelled the same, but are not pronounced the same, etc.

                    My wife works with some girls from central American and sometimes they think, since she looks Latin, that she speaks Spanish. So they try to talk to her in Spanish. She can understand them, somewhat, but when she tries to talk to them in Portuguese, they can’t understand her too much at all. The accent of the language, the way it sounds is very different.

                    Just to basically tell you how different the languages are:

                    Thank you:

                    Spanish: Gracias

                    Portuguese: Obrigado

                    They are 2 almost completely different languages.

                    Really, I’m pretty much fluent in Portuguese and I can barely understand any Spanish.

              3. Brazil is the country of the future, and always will be — and Dilma proves it!

                1. Brazil had one period of solid growth in the ’70s and ’80s, everyone thought it would be the next powerhouse, and then it completely stagnated.

                2. Brazil is the country of the future, and always will be — and Dilma proves it!

                  I love Brazil. When I am there, I feel more like I did here in the 1970s. I’m not that old, I was in my teens then. It’s as far as civil liberties, a lot more free than here. Except for gun rights. People just don’t care about stupid laws and they are not enforced. I can give you example of this all day.

                  You really don’t have any idea how close to coming from nowhere and beating Dilma that Aecio Neves was. He’s not Ron Paul by any means, but he’s pretty far right of Obama. Well, ok, Dilma is right of Obama. But Neves is a pretty pro-business guy. I can’t imagine him saying ‘You didn’t build that!’.

              4. can be unsafe

                That’s putting it mildly.

                As in, ludicrously mildly.

                They have more than twice as many murders as the US despite having 55% the population.

                The police have killed more people in the last 4 years than American cops have killed in the last 40.

                Your veneration of Brazil vs. the US is, well, fucking idiotic Hyperion.

                1. Correction, 62%. That doesn’t improve the outcome much in Brazil’s favor.

            3. Yeah, if I ever leave the US, I’m giving Chile a very strong look. I enjoyed my time in Argentina, but the politics there are way too crazy. The culture and food might not be as good in Chile, but I’ve heard good things from people who’ve visited. I also speak Spanish at a conversational level and could achieve total fluency pretty quickly if I lived there.

    2. Yeah, I got nicked once for “Abuse of power”. That means revving your engine.

  27. I’m currently watching Peter Pan Live on NBC.

    It’s a complete trainwreck in every conceivable way, but I think the girl playing Peter Pan is giving me a deeply disturbing and moderately criminal fetish.

    1. I thought that Peter Pan was a girl?

      1. Hey baby, wanna dress up like an eternally underage boy?

        1. Look, Jesse, it doesn’t make me gay that I’m attracted to Allison Williams when she’s dressed like a 13 year old boy.

          It makes me human.

          1. It would perhaps make you gay if you were attracted to her co-star in “Girls”.

            That or a rapist.

          2. I was just explaining to Hyp why it was a “deeply disturbing and moderately criminal fetish”, I wasn’t planning on overnighting you a “Welcome to sodomy: a beginners manual” booklet.

            1. I think it’s cute that you think I don’t already have like 50 textbooks entirely devoted to sodomy.

              1. I just assumed your materials would all be geared toward the bad kind of sodomy.

                  1. No, Los Doyers, he doesn’t think there is a good kind.

    2. A trainwreck on NBC, a trainwreck on CBS…

  28. And lastly, a bit of rage inducing hypocrisy: journalists who published of a list of gun owners and their addresses are asked to put “this home is proudly gun free” signs in their yards. Hilarity ensues.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wt1Zy_ASNyA

    1. Oh sweet Jeebus- they go to Eric Holder’s house around the 8:20 mark.

      1. 4:50 is what makes me so fucking angry. “I’m against guns!!!” as his armed guard is standing there.

  29. Christ! I recorded Stossel and caught the beginning of Dobbs coming down on the cop’s side of Garner.

    There is no right and wrong. There is only taking the opposite position of our opponents. FUCK, REPUBLICANS ARE STUPID!!!

    1. They’re robots.

      10 INPUT OTHER TEAM’S OPINION
      20 LET MY OPINION = -1*(OTHER TEAM’S OPINION)
      30 SHOUT MY OPINION
      40 GOTO 10

      BEEP BEEP BOOP!

      1. Are you the soccer ball droid from the new Star Wars trailer?

  30. From an article about the woman murdered in the United Arab Emirates:

    The clip shows police ambushing a mansion, where they arrest a woman they say is the suspect.

    Because the root cause of terrorism is poverty.

    1. How do you ambush a stationary building?

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