Tonight on The Independents: McConnell Punts Obamacare, Black Voters Bash Dems, LP Senate 'Spoiler' Sean Haugh, Ebola Intrigue, the Gay Marriage Activist Who Donates Money to Anti-Gay-Wedding Bakers, a Big Space-Rocket Explosion, and Af
Tonight's live episode of The Independents (Fox Business Network, 9 p.m. ET, 6 p.m. PT, with re-airs three hours later) is just EXPLODING with news, starting with that picture to your right of an Antares Rocket failing to launch more than about 10 seconds tonight off the the Mid-Atlantic Regional Spaceport in Virginia.
Speaking of explosive, this Rebel Pundit video of Chicago activists bashing Democrats and the "black on black crime down at City Hall" is getting a lot of attention:
On to discuss are Party Panelists Basil Smikle (Democratic political strategist) and Noelle Nikpour (columnist/GOP strategist). The two will also analyze the latest pre-election polls, and react to today's statement by Sen. Mitch McConnell (R-Kentucky) that "no one thinks" Senate Republicans will be able to repeal Obamacare.
Libertarian Party Senate candidate in North Carolina, Sean Haugh, is back on to talk about the "more weed less war" enthusiasm for his candidacy, which is currently polling well over the margin between the two major-party candidates.
A new Fox poll shows that fully 67 percent of Americans think the White House appointment of an Ebola Czar is just a P.R. stunt; the co-hosts will discuss. And have you heard the one about Matt Stohlandske, a board member of Evangelicals for Marriage Equality, who has decided to donate money to a Portland-based couple who are facing a $150,000 fine for refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding? He'll be on to explain his thinking.
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"A new Fox poll shows that fully 67 percent of Americans think the White House appointment of an Ebola Czar is just a P.R. stunt;"
34% were laughing too hard to answer.
Mr. Sevo. Can I have a word with you?
Maths teacher.
Hey, I meant well! (looking for edit function....)
Well, he was just rounding. The official numbers were 66.5% and 33.5%.
The US isn't metric, Rufus. Jeez.
This is why we need voter id.
I'll go them one better. I think Ebola is just a PR stunt.
You haven't seen the "Ebola is a hoax" commenters around the web? (And I don't mean Cytotoxic.)
I have not.
"Basil Smikle ... and Noelle Nikpour
Christ. I feel like I'm going to need to change my name to some Fancy-Sounding-"Could be Cypriot/Turkish/Middle Eastern"-poet-type name just to fit in.
"Xander Bilal Gilmore"
Chance that some progtard will snark
"Republicans Blame Exploding Rocket On Obama"?
gare-own-teed
Chance some proggie will claim
"Rethuglicans to Blame for Exploding Rocket"?
I'm long.
It certainly proves that privatization of space flight is a no-go
/progtard
because NASA never blew up a rocket
Yes. In fact, I think they blew this one up!
"because NASA never blew up a rocket"
Well, congress passed a law against it and then it stopped!
Exploding Antares is (was) powered by refurbed NK-33 Soviet motors from their 60's era sketchy moon rocket.
So it was socialism that blew up the rocket..
Would it be wrong to suggest that NASA spend less time on bullcrap like nonexistent manmade global warming and more time on building rockets that don't explode?
Yes. If he has his fingerprints anywhere on it, it is guaranteed to not only explode, but to fly off randomly and land in a residential neighborhood first.
Barry has the kiss of death.
The way things have been going for Democrats, I'm surprised it didn't land on one of their Congressional candidates.
BTW, I think San Jose just passed a new M/W law:
"Four robots are being tested an Orchard Supply Hardware store owned by Lowe's Companies Inc. in San Jose, California."
http://finance.yahoo.com/news/.....nance.html
I thought Sears owned Orchard? Ah, Sears bought it in 1996, managed to bury it in debt during the biggest construction boom in 40 years, then unloaded it.
The fact that Orchard did not drown in an ocean of revenue, but rather in debt during the real estate bubble is tragic.
I still like a lot of Sears products, Craftsman, Kenmore etc. but damn they just can't seem to manage anything right.
The local OSH (in San Mateo; SF would never allow a store larger than 3sq ft!) was wonderful! Great stock, great service; dunno how they ran it into the ground.
Just got a flooring estimate from Home Depot. I'll save that rant for later.
I did a floor through HD (or Lowes, I forget) once. All it taught me was to skip them next time and find a local contractor and save 10-20%
3 square feet?
I mean, I know it's a typo, I just can't figure out what it was supposed to say.
"a Portland-based couple who are facing a $150,000 fine for refusing to bake a cake for a gay wedding?"
What if they just change their mind and bake the cake?
That transaction is not beholden to any prior contract. As such, it is involuntary and the bakers are protected on 13A grounds.
Not that it matters. That's just my 10 cents. (my 2 cents is free)
I think they should, and see if the customers who sued them would actually eat it. I wouldn't.
The African-American community was in the process of taking its destiny in its own hands back in the late 1950's, then the FedGov intervened "on their behalf".
Yeah, that whole being able to vote, being able to go to non segregated schools and not being lynched was overrated.
Yeah, you screaming asshole, none of that would have happened without the government.
Yeah, Brown v Board was a state Supreme Court case and the VRA was passed by the Alabama legislature!
Bo Cara Esq.|10.28.14 @ 8:34PM|#
"Yeah, Brown v Board was a state Supreme Court case and the VRA was passed by the Alabama legislature!"
Yeah, and passing those laws just made everything ducky, right, asshole?
Where did you major in stupidity?
Again, we're back to 'Yeah, that whole being able to vote, being able to go to non segregated schools and not being lynched was overrated.'
It's like a strange, parallel universe where it would be in libertarian to admit that federal intervention to end Jim Crow was an excellent thing, especially for blacks.
No, asshole, we're back to Bo proving himself a flaming piece of shit.
Rolling back bad laws is very libertarian; instituting new laws that pretty much have the same effect as the old laws, but done with a "gentler hand", is not.
Ending legally enforced segregation: Good
Forced Busing: Bad
But you know this, you garrulous crackhead.
"Ending legally enforced segregation: Good"
Problem is, the ruling made it illegal, but it didn't end it. Typical lefty stupidity: Pass a law and everything is fixed!
The work of changing minds didn't get done by government; it got done by people of good will interacting, and maybe a bit slower as a result of the threatened force.
Ha! You're such a clever fellow!
Let's see; being able to vote. That's really improved their lot in life, so you get a point there.
Being able to go to non-segregated schools; because black children only learn if they're around white children. It's so nice that white people haven't just moved away, and that schools are therefore no longer segregated.
And not being lynched. I bow my head in shame when I think of all the laws that allowed, nay, required lynching of black people. I'm glad that the Civil Rights Act gave violent bigots pause, and made them rethink their lynching activities.
/Guess What?
"It's so nice that white people haven't just moved away, and that schools are therefore no longer segregated."
But, but, but, they passed a LAW! So, see, libertarians are wrong and stuff!
And you hate black people, right?!
/egotistical asshole
Lynching was over before that period. Less than one a year during the Eisenhower administration.
Chances that some progtard accuses the Koch brothers of paying black people to say nasty things about Democrats?
Signs point to Yes
I think the show's ratings could really take a spike if everyone would be, you know, naked.
everyone? or just tonight's lineup?
*sheepishly begins to put clothes back on*
EVERYONE!
*rolls eyes, begins stripping again*
Thats crazy talk! no one would ever let video of naked people loose on the internet.
Some of them could charge fees for putting their clothes back on.
Free hugs:
http://roadupward.wordpress.co.....free-hugs/
TANSTAAFH
Chances that snarky comments will be made about the appearance and dress of the hosts?
NEVER
Do people get paid to 'retweet' shit about TV shows and news stories?
I don't do the twitters so i don't know what 'normal' is, but when i look at some of these people's accounts, its all like, "READ THIS THING FROM THE SAME SOURCE IM CONSTANTLY LINKING TO" or "WOW IM TOTALLY WATCHING HBO TONIGHT"
Is this a thing if you work in Media? - i.e. 'become a human billboard'?
I want to have an implant installed so that my penis can tweet when it gets an erection.
And the thing is, one day soon this won't be a punch line at all.
Shortest tweet ever
#8==D
#8D
Post swimming pool hastag?
#Post Hillary
#sonotready
#Ladies of the Supreme Court
#Dunham
@slammer
#notwithyourdick
#BillC would
World's rarest hash tag
#BillCwouldn't
Washington Times confirms that Obama has gone insane.
http://www.washingtontimes.com.....bola-pati/
Sometimes it's like we're in the opening chapter/episode of The Stand.
+1 ronk
It is like they want it to get lose in this country. I understand the concerns about the need to get medical people but you solve that by quickly building a temporary medical facility on Diago Garcia or somewhere not bring them to the U.S.
Have they lost their fucking minds?
Gitmo
Why not? Beats Bethesda
I really wonder if a lot of the public apprehension about Ebola is due to the fact that the half-assed, unconvincing reassurances by the authorities sound just like an early scene in every plague/zombie movie ever made?
Those aren't stories, they're future history.
A State Department official denied there are plans to bring non-citizen patients to the U.S., saying ["We] are not contemplating bringing them back to the U.S. for treatment. Allegations to the contrary are completely false."
Guess I'll wait to hear what the Czar says.
Ivan IV the Terrible?
Even Ivan was smarter than this.
No, Ron Klain the Terrible.
"Guess I'll wait to hear what the Czar says."
If someone can find him.
I figure he's in voluntarily quarantine.
*involuntarily quarantined*
I didn't read. What's the rationale? I find it hard to believe he'd be this rogue. Then again...
What is this "rationale" to which you allude?
The rationale, if you can call it that, is that this vile, disgusting cretin Obama doesn't give a flying crap about America. He's far more sympathetic to Africa than he is to the United States. He in fact wrote an entire book years ago explaining how he sees the world called "Dreams from my Father." Anyone who still hasn't read this book should, because it explains everything.
You simply can't view this president through the same kind of lens that you would a normal president, because we've never had a president like this before in America until now.
No we haven't. He is not going to stop. He really doesn't care. Even the Dems getting killed next week won't affect him. I don't know what we are going to do. But only the Dems can stop him.
This has got to be giving Hillary headaches. How is she supposed to run as a Democrat in 2016 if the entire brand is in the toilet? How can she "motivate the base" while distancing herself from Obama?
Maybe Obama just doesn't care. Maybe he wants the GOP to take over in 2016 so they they have to clean up his mess, and he can blame it all on them.
Where is Derpetologist to sort through these derptastic comments when I need him? WaPo readers think Sharyl Attkisson is a paranoid loon for claiming her computer was bugged.
http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....-ever-did/
Faith does not cope well with directly conflicting information
CBS tech people admitted it was hacked. I guess they are paranoid too.
What else can they do? They can't admit the truth to themselves let alone to the world. These are the retarded grand children of the people who believed Stalin's show trials were real.
Apparently the part where the DoJ has already gotten busted for tracking the Associated Press phone records, and surveilled other journalists has completely passed over their heads
And the CIA broke into the Senate's computers.
Just one more faux scandal, I guess.
Never mind she had a professional investigate it and tell her it was bugged (you know, the only way she could have known). I think, anyway. I only skimmed through that article.
It was her work computer. The CBS tech people are the ones who figured out it had been hacked.
Her home computer was hacked and had remote login enabled.
I posted a link earlier, which stated that THERE WAS A CLANDESTINE FIBER OPTIC CONNECTION INSTALLED AT HER HOUSE WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE.
10 times worse than Nixon.
It is a hundred times worse. Nixon tried to but the DNC. Obama read the mail and bugged a critical reporter. It's just unbelievable. And these retards don't care.
And these retards don't care.
So long as they are driven by feelings over critical thinking and rationalization, they (progs) never will.
"THERE WAS A CLANDESTINE FIBER OPTIC CONNECTION INSTALLED AT HER HOUSE WITHOUT HER KNOWLEDGE."
And when she called the cops, they said she didn't have standing, right?
I think the exploding rocket video really sends a message to all of us: reminding us that in this time of anxiety, when we face diseases, terrorists, the threat of global warming, a moribund economy, when relations between political groups are strained, when men and woman look at each other with contempt and suspicion, that sometimes, an event can occur which breaks us out of our malaise and helps us all think about that which is larger than any one of us, something about which we can all agree:
That Huge Explosions are Really Fucking Cool
And I almost went to that launch dammit.
+1 blowed up real good
Amen.
Mrs. Kotter died.
Why no mention for Mrs. Kott-erh?
It's not like Lou Reed died to hog the space.
She was pretty cute back in the day. Sort of like a homeless man's Bailey from WKRP
Bailey QUARTERS was hot!
Talk nerdy to me - 70's style.
Who doesn't love a sexy librarian?
She was smoking hot
http://2.bp.blogspot.com/-tp_E.....ek1966.jpg
She's still age-cohort hot at 62.
Still punches well above her weight class
Leadership?
Top. Black. Men.
SEXIST!
Waah! Waah! We don't have good leadership. Well, you're looking to be lead.
Prediction: Small dreamcatchers...
Prediction: Blue
Why does she have a 'K' on her outfit?
She raided Kafka's wardrobe
nice!
It exploded?
Needs more government.
Duh.
Scarlet K.
Oh the humanity.
Unmanned.
SEXIST!
Hey, they're not NAKED!
They are under their clothes!
Hopefully she has a pink thong with a big K on it.
You absolutely are not known for that.
promote the economy...blah blah...capitalism
Through big-government mercantilism...
Wow, the party spokespeople are really going out of their way to argue the voters out of their cynicism!
Are you saying that words are not all powerful? Heresy!
Puhleese...we don;t need more congressional action...unless they plan on undoing things
Game 7 it is.
Indeed. Nice inning for the Royals.
Why? They play 2 innings nowadays?
7-0, brah.
Probly Game 7...baseball's weird, tho'.
True, but I don't see 8 runs in the Giant's lineup.
Yeah, it's early if they start to chip away and get to Ventura who seems shaky.
He just got out of the jam. Giants had bases loaded and one out and didn't get a run. That hurts
And Posey usually passes on those DP pitches.
It was a high fastball - a good pitch for a fly ball. Posey overcompensated and swung above it.
A lot of Democrats don't look to government to whaaaaaaaaaaa? NOTHING. THEY DON'T NOT LOOK TO GOVERNMENT FOR ONE DAMN THING.
They just look to government for the sacred things like free birth control and to force people to make gay wedding cakes.
Did you know some baseball players took drugs? Well, we need a congressional investigation!
You know which players took drugs? Fucking all of them.
Do you know who cares?
Congress and self-righteous sports writers with inches to fill.
GOP loves Obamacare. They loooooooooooove it.
I disagree. The D's run awfully negative campaigns all the time, while accusing their opponent R's of doing it, and they (the D's) win.
It's old and gives ammunition to the lefties.
BUT HE DIDN'T SAVE NATURE!
Foster slaps down the Obama apologist. TO HIS FACE.
Ah, the President's *style* is wrong, he hasn't been communicating his successes properly!
He is just too good for us. The country doesn't deserve a man like him. His problem is he is just too modest.
Paging Mrs Suderman
*** meekly raises hand ***
Mr. President, would you just mention one of your successes?
HE KILLED BIN LADEN!!!
Mr. President, would you *prove* you killed bin Laden?
RACIST!
You want your computer hacked, wise guy?
#sharedabeer
I swear if < i The Independents doesn't get some new commercials soon I'm going to punch my television screen right in Welch's face.
And people see Libertarians are weird
say
fuck
Fuck
Is this guy related to Mr. Ed? The teeth on him...
you know who else had a smile frozen on his face?
Frosty the Snowman?
that's cold bro
Lenin?
Encino Man?
Cesar Romero?
Nice
"Is this guy related to Mr. Ed? The teeth on him..."
Did they invite Kerry?
Shan-ha-ha
Super Monkey Death Car.
Good metal band name
I dare someone to get that reference.
Nice tie...jackass...
Kennedy. Just invite yourself four times and have your own House of Mirrors. That way you can interrupt yourself to your hearts content.
Kennedy: Sean Haugh will become senator over my dead body!
The Independents Attire Review, 28 October 2014
Don't Say We Never Gave You Anything-Edition
- Kennedy: Some one appears to be making a bid for membership in the Pink Ladies. We personally think The Independents are a high-school gang cool enough on their own, and that we'd totally take her to the sock-hop if her boyfriend loses the drag race at Thunder Road.
- Matt: PowerMatt-'biting John Bolton's Style'-edition. His attire tonight is so banging hardcore that we expect him to conform to its ideological demands and insist upon immediate carpet bombing of Iran in order to not 'appear weak' in the face of Ebola. +1 REAL AMERICANS WEAR RED TIES
- Kmele: Booyahka! Whenever we see this, we feel he's missing some gold-Gucci sunglasses and a giant Cohiba cigar... and a Bentley on spinning rims... and 2 or 3 strippers...and a swimming pool in a nightclub.... Basically, we think he's supposed to be the star of a really over-budgeted No Limit Records music video. +1 Make 'em say uhhhhhhhh.
Merci Beaucoup
Kennedy was the original queen bee and its Reason. So of course her boyfriend loses the drag race. Do you know how slow a Prius quarter mile time is?
They're surviving because they have ebole. Not ebola.
Come on, businesses, Uncle New York has tax breaks in the back of his van...come in and look...
Oooooo... nice shag... what's that plastic sheeting and cutlery for?
If African, its actually pronounced, "Eeebo-la"
So it's a PR move. Whaddya gon'do 'bout it?
Obama.
Hey, and he appointed a guy to, uh,...
Science driven policy. Great.
I hear that phrase and think of a non-English speaking Chinese physics grad student behind the wheel of a used Honda Accord
I'm always reminded of phrenology
Don't forget eugenics
I took classes from him in college.
Ah, the fun of trying to find a teacher that spoke English...
What is this? They're just having a discussion in the middle of the show about a topic with just the hosts? With no gimmick like Topical Storm or Keepin' It Droppin' Your G's or whatever?
The best thing that can happen to West Africa is if it moves HERE!
KENNEDY (LIBERTARIAN SHILL) WANTS ALL AMERICANS TO GET EBOLA!
China-man is cut!
I smell a lawsuit for sure.
Grizzlies. Anything else and it's not a selfie.
If it's important you'd have a cell phone.
Why were Natt and Jmele still sitting during the Tropical Storn if they weren't talking?
What, you're expecting them to go play ping pong?
They may as well. In the background.
Prediction = black democratic strategist will laugh at the idea that blacks will ever abandon Democrats
!!
Do those idiots know that bears can, you know, run and pounce pretty quickly?
ISO 9001? That's better than ISO 9000!
I think Lady Liberty is shedding a tear back there.
Neo-liberal. Ugh.
There's no tearing. He's going full steam ahead Democrat agenda.
Wait, what is black democrat guy saying?
Holy crap, self-criticism from both the party spokespeople?
after laughing about the idea, he confesses "yeah, they get screwed"
And that's about as far as that conversation will go. I sincerely doubt he's going to say, 'We need to do more to encourage 'economic opportunity'
I had a black agenda once. I filled it up with all the things in my schedule for about a year. It served its purpose.
My black agenda was evil.
DID SHE JUST SAY BLACKS?
Pander harder, GOP!
DID HE JUST SAY COLORED?
No. He said COLOURED.
But the C is silent, right?
Hard. Like my...never mind.
Hard like maths? Or is that Britain?
So it's the messaging? They're not reaching out? Taking for granted? Maybe it's the POLICIES!
Noelle's mouth moves like Mary Matlan's...Like an amateur ventriloquist or something.
Same crap up here. Notice the racial/religious/gender make up of the Conservative party behind Harper:
http://bit.ly/1nOvbgS
What's with the two major parties and making sure that a Sikh is always in their party photos? The Tory's have Tim Uppal and the Liberals have that guy who's name escapes me. Most people don't even know who they are or think they're Muslim.
Are you suggesting they're plants?
I honestly don't know enough about either's political career to make that judgement. I just find it interesting. Hell, even Rick Mercer mocked Bains.
THAT'S HILARIOUS!
Navdeep Bains, that's the guy.
John Titor|10.28.14 @ 9:54PM|#
"What's with the two major parties and making sure that a Sikh is always in their party photos?"
They're Canada's Romas?
Yeah, ultra-white Matt Welch is going to tell the black community what they're thinking. COME ON.
Hey. This black panelist knows where it's at!
He's going to be getting some calls about his heresies.
Did he call a spade a spade?
What's the link to the after show?
Hey, Al Jazeera is advertising on Fox!
Al Jazeera. We report. You accept it.
I needed a monocle polisher and I found it on Fiver!
Yeah Matt!
He should identify more with a guy who doesn't know to stick his head through a necktie when appearing on television.
Kennedy has brain fart; everyone smiles and acts politely
Happens.
Kennedy's lost control of the dialogue.
This is interesting...
Will TI be talking to the bakers?
I would tune in to see that
I'm glad I'm not in their position, I'd probably go passive-aggressive: "I'm glad that this guy wants to partially compensate us for the damage caused by his fellow SSM advocates."
IS IT SO DIFFICULT TO PUT A CLOCK UP FOR GUESTS TO UNDERSTAND HOW MUCH TIME THEY HAVE LEFT?
IT DOESN'T MATTER! Kennedy will interrupt them to let them know.
She tried, but he kept on talking!
Do we, at least, get to see the EXPLOSION? (I have yet to google it.)
If the side effect is throat swelling and trouble breathing how the hell can I tell my doctor?
And do you have to wait 240 minutes before you call him about that boner?
If I get a 4 hour boner call the whorehouse not the doctor.
That guy was just collecting money for the bakers to promote helping kids. IT WAS ALL A SCAM.
That's one expensive firework.
JUST BECAUSE YOU LOOK LIKE A 60'S ERA NASA POINDEXTER DOESN'T MEAN YOU KNOW WHAT YOU'RE TALKING ABOUT, WELCH.
Haha, nice!
Ah. Not Lou Dobbs.
Gah!! Ashley Webster!
He's playing the long con. Getting to heaven. It's all a scam.
Matt Welch loves marriage licensing. He looooooooooooooves it.
Wow, that Republican babe is such a hard-core SoCon!
Only the pretty SOCONS get on TV. The homely broads better be feminists or go home.
To be fair, my SoCon remark was sarcastic.
Air on a G String. IF YOU KNOW WHAT I MEAN.
I don't want to see Matt Welch do the Humpty Dance.
hmmmmm aftershow.... or 'Rise of ISIS' on PBS?....
Matt Welch doing the Humpty-hump? Yeah, i'm going to go watch the terrorists now...
Rich people problems. Weddings in Belize!
Kmele Foster is a wedding cheapskate.
What's the link?
YOU MAKE MONEY ON WEDDINGS. Who are you married fuckers trying to kid?
Sure you do, if you are the caterer.
The New York Giants played in the polo grounds, not the Bronx, Basil
Well, maybe he lived in Riverdale
Why are people so ignorant about things? It's not hard. The polo grounds were is Harlem you half wit. It's called Google use it sometime.
CUT HER MIC.
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