Prosecutor Drops Prison Threat Against Gun Owner Who Mistakenly Thought Her Pennsylvania Carry Permit Was Good in New Jersey

Good news from Atlantic County, New Jersey: It looks like Shaneen Allen, the Philadelphia gun owner who faced a mandatory minimum sentence of three and a half years for driving across the Delaware River with a pistol in her purse, will escape prison after all. The Press of Atlantic City reports that Atlantic County Prosecutor Jim McClain, who initially refused to approve Allen for a pretrial diversion program, has changed his mind.
McClain cited a memo issued today by acting Attorney General John Hoffman, who told local prosecutors that "imprisonment is neither necessary nor appropriate to serve the interests of justice and protect public safety" in cases like Allen's. "In applying the factors set out in the clarification," McClain said, "I determined that the defendant in this case should be offered the opportunity to be admitted into the Atlantic County PTI [Pretrial Intervention] Program."
Hoffman's memo looks like a face-saving excuse for McClain, who more than a week ago signaled that he was reconsidering his hard-line approach to Allen's case, which had attracted nationwide attention. But if sparing McClain additional embarrassment is what it takes for him to abandon a clearly unjust prosecution, it's a small price to pay. Furthermore, Hoffman's memo should help similarly situated defendants. The Press says "the clarification also means McClain will now review other similar cases that have been denied PTI in the past."
Allen was arrested last October after she was pulled over on the Atlantic City Expressway for a minor traffic violation and volunteered to the state trooper that she had a gun in her purse. She erroneously believed that her Pennsylvania carry permit was good in New Jersey, and for that mistake McClain was prepared to put her behind bars for years, separating her from her two young sons. McClain's predecessor and prosecutors in other counties took a more lenient approach, commonly approving PTI for defendants like her. But until now McClain had argued that New Jersey law did not allow such exceptions.
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Yay! A prosecutor decided to be a human being for once.
He had no choice. He gave Rice deferred prosecution for beating the tar out of his fiance.
It was a political move.
Meh, I'm not sure I believe that. Rice is an elite athlete, at least they belive that in Balmer now, judging by the number of Rice jerseys I've seen on the street now, which is about 1000x the number before I noticed before this 'crisis'.
Every PC move has an equal an opposite non-PC reaction. But the PC warriors will never see this before it slams them right in the face.
Haha so true.
True. You never know this day in age with the DOJ.
"the defendant in this case should be offered the opportunity to be admitted into the Atlantic County PTI [Pretrial Intervention] Program."
"The opportunity", huh? With all due respect, what exactly is the PTI Program?
*** googles it ***
The PTI program is based on a rehabilitative model that recognizes that there may be an apparent causal connection between the offense charged and the rehabilitative needs of a defendant. Further, the rehabilitative model emphasizes that social, cultural, and economic conditions often result in a defendant's decision to commit crime. Simply stated, PTI strives to solve personal problems which tend to result from the conditions that appear to cause crime, and ultimately, to deter future criminal or disorderly behavior by a defendant.
"We're here to help."
PTI means "diverted from the criminal justice system until we have the dirt on you to make a sentence stick."
PTI means creating an elaborate bullshit job description that will justify hiring a few more of your cronies.
Ok. So she has to submit to random urine tests because she got confused as to what the law in another state was?
That seems logical.
If by "that" you mean "designed to raise revenue and provide government jobs" then yes.
What a bunch of bullshit. She never made a "decision to commit crime."
But... how will this dissuade other gunowners from innocently and mistakenly crossing into New Jersey with a firearm? The AG could have made an example of this single mother!
SHE BROKE THE LAW. /TONY
You misspelled "Tulpa".
Law and order! Well, 8% of the time.
/tulip
Was there a Dunphy sighting earlier today, or am I hallucinating jackboot apologists now?
Yes, dunphy was pissed because somebody dare insinuate that cops aren't held to the "utmost and highest standard" when they beat their wives.
He was here defending the cops who brutally threw that pregnant woman face down on the pavement, and went on with his usual defense of all uses of force. After all, since we don't regularly beat the shit out of anyone who doesn't immediately obey our every whim, how can we know when force is justified?
Damn, I'm sorry I missed it.
*smooches*
What about this business of states giving full faith and credit to the "public acts, records, and judicial proceedings of every other state"?
Was this written in cursive or something so nobody today can read it?
Can a lawyer help me out on this?
Naturally, the Full Faith and Credit Clause is subject to the FYTW Clause.
A license or permit isn't any of those things.
A drivers license doesn't have to be honored in another state. Some states don't honor licenses issued to people if another state if they're under a certain age.
Business, law, medical, etc. licenses issued in one state aren't automatically valid in another.
In an ideal world, I'd like to see Congress exercise it's power under the 14th amendment to invalidate state laws that violate the rights protected by the 2nd amendment.
What Brendan said.
Licenses and permits don't fall into any of those three categories. Is this another case of libertarians interpreting the constitution literally only when they want to?
Why wouldn't they? They are both public acts and judicial proceedings.
Did they publish a notice in the newspaper when you got your CCW? Is there even a record I can look up online about that event happening? If not, it's not either of those.
They didn't publish a notice of my marriage, but they have to honor that.
I can look it up online or at the courthouse. It's a public act.
CCW permits require a FOIA request at the very least, and that's in NYS. In the vast majority of states you can't look them up unless you're a cop.
So who decided what the words in that full faith and credit clause actually meant as opposed to what they sound like?
If this was interpreted as broadly as the Interstate Commerce Clause...well,you see what I mean.
So NJ has to acknowledge that, yeah, the lady is licensed to carry in PA.
Next: "NJ AG Indicts Allen for Child Endangerment"
Just think of what this scumbag prosecutor would have done to this woman if there hadn't been nationwide press and pressure. This is exactly the kind of worst person who gravitates to these positions of power.
But until now McClain had argued that New Jersey law did not allow such exceptions.
The law hasn't changed, yet somehow his view of what it requires and what it prohibits has changed.
Well, like most minor officials he expects to run for higher office one day, and didn't like the idea of doing so with this hanging around his neck.
If God is just and the electorate exhibits at minimum the level of sense on associates with a grapefruit, he won't rise higher.
So, he's a shoo-in for governor, after a stint as AG.
See - once again, as if we needed more evidence - if you've done nothing wrong, you have nothing to fear.
This woman wantonly and knowingly broke the law, endangering her child, the police and herself. That this prosecutor let her off so easily shows the beneficent munificence of the state.
All praise Big Brother!
So...Allen won't be going to the pokey.
"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed."
Now, when will the arresting officers and McClain be going to the pokey?
Come on dude, she's clearly not part of a militia, especially a well regulated one. So all the self defense stuff gun nutters are trying to push is total bunk. I mean where in the constitution is it written that you can even own, let alone carry a weapon to defend yourself. NOWHERE. Especially not a black woman. Why do you like deadz children so much???????????????
Everyone knows that the 2A authorizes the National Guard to have weapons! You want our soldiers to go out on the field unarmed?
Hoffman's memo looks like a face-saving excuse for McClain, who more than a week ago signaled that he was reconsidering his hard-line approach to Allen's case, which had attracted nationwide attention.
That's not the entire story. The NRA was already sounding the alarm on this ridiculous prosecution last month and he didn't give a shit. NJ doesn't exactly have a fervent gun-rights bloc.
This about-face happened because he put Ray Rice in the PTI program after he pulverized his wife, and the comparisons started being made to this case from beyond the usual gun rights types. McClain wants the Ray Rice connection to go away ASAP and this helps him with that.
Personally, I think she should be prosecuted for thinking that anything is good in New Jersey.
This "intervention" program should consist, it its entirety, of saying, "The State of New Jersey does not believe in reciprocity. Don't bring your gun back."
Finally some decent news
Translation of memo from Acting AG:
"Jim, are you fucking nuts?"
CORRECT.