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A.M. Links: DOJ to Review Police Tactics, U.S. Sends More Military Advisors to Iraq, Lauren Bacall Dead

Ed Krayewski | 8.13.2014 9:00 AM

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    President Obama spoke about the weekend shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, calling it "tragic," while the Department of Justice announced it would conduct a broad review of police tactics nationwide. Gun sales in Ferguson have quadrupled. The Ferguson Police Department continues to withhold the name of the officer who shot and killed Brown. A progressive reporter heckled the Rev. Al Sharpton, who arrived for protests in Ferguson, for being a snitch.

  • The United States is sending 140 additional military advisers to northern Iraq. Iran and Saudi Arabia have both come out in support of Haider al-Abadi to replace Nouri al-Maliki, who refuses to give up as prime minister of Iraq. The Vatican, meanwhile, has endorsed the U.S. air strikes in Iraq, something it usually doesn't do.
  • Russia has sent a convoy of aid to eastern Ukraine. Ukrainian officials say they will consider any attempt to deliver aid to eastern Ukraine without their consent an invasion.
  • Officials from Israel and Palestine are expected to continue negotiating as a ceasefire brokered by Egypt comes to an end. Hamas, which rules Gaza, where the bulk of civilian casualties have been, insists this would be the last ceasefire they agree to.
  • Former Microsoft CEO Steve Ballmer has become the official owner of the Los Angeles Clippers after a judge approved Donald Sterling's wife's authority to agree to a sale.
  • Actress Lauren Bacall died at age 89.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Actress Lauren Bacall died at age 89.

    Who's the third going to be? Start the pool, you ghouls.

    1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

      150:1 on the NYS Legislative Delegation to Israel (A whole pile of pols flew out there in a bid to try to court low information voters within the Jewish community)

      1. Tonio   11 years ago

        But there is no Israel lobby...

        1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

          Is it wrong to hope Hamas scores a hit on Governer Cuomo?

          1. Tonio   11 years ago

            Yes.

          2. WTF   11 years ago

            Allah willing.

          3. Batgirl   11 years ago

            From your mouth to god's ears.

          4. AlexInCT   11 years ago

            Then I want to be wrong...

    2. Doctor Whom   11 years ago

      Do millennials even know who that was?

      1. Ted S.   11 years ago

        The woman married to Mayo Methot's ex-husband.

        I've never understood why this particular marriage was considered so much more romantic than any of the other Hollywood marriages that either stood the test of time (say, Paul Newman and Joanne Woodward) or those that ended tragically (Clark Gable and Carole Lombard).

        1. robc   11 years ago

          Mel Brooks and Anne Bancroft?

          1. toolkien   11 years ago

            Stiller and Meara?

      2. Vapourwear   11 years ago

        Some of us do.

      3. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        Nope.

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          I say to you, go unto Netflix and watch.

          1. Ted S.   11 years ago

            I'd suggest Written on the Wind. Douglas Sirk movies can be fun to watch when he goes way over the top.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              The Big Sleep and Dark Passage if you want some Bogart, too.

              1. Ted S.   11 years ago

                I hate The Big Sleep, since it makes no sense.

                1. cavalier973   11 years ago

                  It's all innuendo

                2. Tonio   11 years ago

                  Get ahold of the original 1945 cut - it's more linear. The 1945 version was included on the DVD of the restored version of the 1946 theatrical version.

                3. Stormy Dragon   11 years ago

                  It's because the story hinges on things they weren't allowed to discuss directly due to the Haye's Code, so they have to kind of hint about them and hope you pick up on it.

          2. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            I don't even know what you suggesting I watch.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              It's time for you to watch some films from before 2010.

              1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

                Just this weekend I watched part of The Matrix. That's not even from this millennium.

                (Also I watched National Lampoon's Vacation Friday night after the old HnR folks had to go home to their families)

                1. tarran   11 years ago

                  What can I say? My hearing aid battery only has so many minutes of juice.

                2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

                  Have you seen Animal House?

                  1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

                    Naturally. I had to learn how to go through life.

                3. hamilton   11 years ago

                  To be fair, I just went out for another drink but that was because I figured you wouldn't share your redheads.

                  I could host the next meetup and then we could drink more. But probably not get redheads. On the other hand, board gaming... actually I just think I'll shut up now.

                  1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

                    Sadly there were no redheads on Friday, let alone enough to share.

                    I could do a board gaming and drinking meetup.

                    1. DEG   11 years ago

                      I could do a board gaming and drinking meetup.

                      Are redheaded women involved?

                    2. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

                      Sadly, it sounds like there aren't any at hamilton's house. But I'm willing to forgo that for one evening.

            2. cavalier973   11 years ago

              My favorite movie with Lauren Bacall is "How to Marry a Millionaire". Also has Marilyn Monroe as a near-sighted ditz, and Betty Grable. Fun movie.

      4. ant1sthenes   11 years ago

        I'm too old to be a millennial, but the only reason I know is song lyrics. We had it all, just like...

      5. waffles   11 years ago

        Millennial here: No. I do not know who that is.

      6. JEP   11 years ago

        Do millennials even know who that was?

        Who? Now that Miley Cyrus. Boy does she have a long tongue...

        1. JEP   11 years ago

          In all seriousness, I've always been more of a Grace Kelly/Hedy Lamarr type of guy. Any girl who can talk about frequency hopping will spark my interest.

          Although, I may need to check out Bacall.

          1. cavalier973   11 years ago

            Myrna Loy. Classy and Beautiful.

      7. Knutsack   11 years ago

        I don't know what I am, but I know that when I first saw her in How to Marry a Millionaire, I was in love. My favorite of the classic movie stars.

      8. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

        I am gobsmacked that (a) anyone doesn't know who Lauren Bacall was (b) some people have never watched her classics with Bogart and (c) any cisgendered male hasn't been in love with her at some point.

        Now get off my lawn.

    3. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Lou Reed?

      OK, for a more serious guess, my first thought is always Luise Rainer, since she's 104 now.

      Norman Lloyd turns 100 in November, I think; Olivia de Havilland is 98; and Kirk Douglas is relatively young, not turning 98 until December.

      1. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

        I'm always a little surprised when I find out that Olivia de Havilland is still alive. She was always the perfect leading lady for Errol Flynn.

        1. SRVolunteer   11 years ago

          ...the perfect leading lady for Errol Flynn

          Ouch.

      2. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

        My money is on Michael Jackson.

        Oh...wait...

        1. Robert   11 years ago

          That's such a common name, how could you lose?

      3. robc   11 years ago

        Abe Vigoda, but I want odds.

    4. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

      Just to go with someone unexpected, I'm gonna say Lindsey Lohan.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Well, which is it?

      2. Obama's Buttplug   11 years ago

        Betty. Fucking. White.

    5. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Hello.

      A couple of other actors died. I forget their names.

    6. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      Selena Gomez.

    7. Jerms   11 years ago

      Put me down for Jerry Lewis

    8. Jerms   11 years ago

      Put me down for Jerry Lewis

      1. cavalier973   11 years ago

        Okay, okay. Sheesh!

        *Jerms: Jerry Lewis*

    9. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

      "You know how to whistle, don't you, Steve? You just put your lips together and blow."
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MheNUWyROv8

      1. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

        There was a certain 'rough manly' edge to Becall.

      2. Ted S.   11 years ago

        I always wanted to see Bogart put his lips together, and just have air come out with no whistling noise.

        1. Flying Nun Strafing Run   11 years ago

          Sadly, that's all I'm able to do.

          1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

            Nice handle.

            1. db   11 years ago

              Thanks.

    10. Robert   11 years ago

      That picture possibly explains why I dreamed such a complicated plot last night. I dreamed I was either a publisher or a literary agent, and someone came to me with a book he wanted to write, but was afraid to publish because it was from his actual life and he was afraid people would kill him.

    11. John   11 years ago

      Matt Yglesias already called Gerald Ford.

      1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

        +1 correction

      2. JW   11 years ago

        Did SadBeard leave a message?

        1. John   11 years ago

          No. Mr. I went to Harvard and am smarter than you, tweeted a couple of days ago that Gerald Ford was still alive.

          1. Citizen Nothing   11 years ago

            In his defense, with Gerald Ford it's hard to tell the difference.

          2. Mike M.   11 years ago

            I'm willing to cut him some slack. When those Capitol Hill street urchins played "Knockout King" on him a couple of years back, they clearly did some serious permanent brain damage.

    12. Brandon   11 years ago

      Doesn't that just count untimely deaths? 89 hardly fits.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    ...after a judge approved Donald Sterling's wife's authority to agree to a sale.

    Usually men have to endure their wives buying expensive things.

    1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

      *rimshot*

    2. Cdr Lytton   11 years ago

      For themselves. They're always taking your treasures to Goodwill or selling them at fire sale prices.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

        Good point.

  3. Longtorso, Johnny   11 years ago

    Dalrock: What is modern marriage for?

    Another victim of Marriage 2.0

    1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      Every other week my co-worker's wife threatens divorce. Luckily for him, she makes more money.

      Luckily, my wife thinks I'm dead.

      1. ant1sthenes   11 years ago

        Hit by a train?

        1. cavalier973   11 years ago

          Lots of respectable people are hit by trains.

          1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

            Just a grease spot on the L&N.

        2. Brandon   11 years ago

          Blooey! Nothin left.

    2. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      Alpha Game
      Breaking the chains, winning the games, and saving Western Civilization.

      Ahahahahahaha.

      1. Bobarian   11 years ago

        I loved this comment referring to marrying women who have already had multiple divorces:

        "Sometime in the next five years Kim Kardashian is going to prove mathematically, statistically and scientifically that Kanye West is in point of fact, the dumbest dumb-fuck on Earth."

        1. Brett L   11 years ago

          Only if he thinks half his stuff is worth more than being rid of her.

          1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

            But putting himself in the position of having to make that inevitable decision?

            Dumber than a box of rocks being pounded into gravel by the stupid hammer.

          2. Bobarian   11 years ago

            Brett L supports free market divorces.

  4. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Hockey fans drive petition to 'Ban The Stripper' at Blackhawks home games

    As noted by Hockee Night, the intermission entertainment has featured the same predictable rotation for pretty much ever: a kid shoots, then a pretty girl in heels suspected by many to be a plant, then a male fan, then a celebrity. There's no music for the male fan and the kid. But the moment the pretty girl hits the ice, Frank Pellico plays "The Stripper" on the organ -- you know, because people want to see her without clothes -- and the audience begins to hoot and/or holler.

    Suffice it to say, many hockey fans find this troubling. There are appropriate times to play "The Stripper" (such as when Ravishing Rick Rude is making his way down to the ring for a match), but "shoot the puck" isn't one of them.

    1. Ted S.   11 years ago

      If she's a plant, then she'd be in on the joke.

  5. sarcasmic   11 years ago

    Quite the hair-razors! Men shave their chest fuzz to resemble bikini tops in latest wacky social media fad

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/fem.....a-fad.html
    I'm glad I don't have that much body hair.

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   11 years ago

      Do you know who else had that much body hair?

      1. Tonio   11 years ago

        STEVE SMITH! ?

        1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

          Correct!

        2. Ted S.   11 years ago

          I was going to say Warty.

          1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

            That's not hair.

      2. sarcasmic   11 years ago

        Your mom?

      3. Pathogen   11 years ago

        Captain Caveman?

        1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

          Also correct!

      4. Cdr Lytton   11 years ago

        Robin Wiliams?

        1. Stormy Dragon   11 years ago

          Robin Williams did not have a lot of body hair. Robin Williams had full on fur.

    2. Rich   11 years ago

      That's just wrong.

    3. Steve G   11 years ago

      glad I'm blond...

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      Uh..... how about no

  6. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    President Obama spoke about the weekend shooting of 18-year-old Michael Brown in Ferguson, Missouri, calling it "tragic," while the Department of Justice announced it would conduct a broad review of police tactics nationwide.

    If only Obama and Lois Lerner's email archive would hold a beer summit.

    1. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

      Apparently Michael Brown could not have been his son.

      1. toolkien   11 years ago

        He was too chubby. No way he followed the FLOTUS' food policies, ergo no son of mine.

      2. cavalier973   11 years ago

        Zing!

      3. MJGreen   11 years ago

        He appears to have actually been an innocent, upstanding young man.

        So this says something about Obama...

  7. waffles   11 years ago

    The United States is sending 140 additional military advisers to northern Iraq. Iran and Saudi Arabia have both come out in support of Haider al-Abadi to replace Nouri al-Maliki, who refuses to give up as prime minister of Iraq. The Vatican, meanwhile, has endorsed the U.S. air strikes in Iraq, something it usually doesn't do.

    Someone said something yesterday about this being the end of the Pax Americana. Is there some truth to that or is it something tinfoil hatters say every time a new conflict starts?

    1. gaijin   11 years ago

      The United States is sending 140 additional military advisers to northern Iraq.

      ANd...they will be wearing loafers, so no boots on the ground...yet.

      1. Rich   11 years ago

        Sheesh, if the Iraqis haven't taken our advice by now, what's the use?

      2. GILMORE   11 years ago

        Special Forces wear Ninja Slippers

        true fact!

    2. WTF   11 years ago

      The Vatican, meanwhile, has endorsed the U.S. air strikes in Iraq, something it usually doesn't do.

      CRUSADE!!11!!!!!

      1. Tonio   11 years ago

        Yeah, I mean WTF?

        For once I'm actually curious about Eddie's opinion on something.

        1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

          The Pope has a foreign policy - usually peaceful, but the persecution of Christians seems to have turned him in favor of some measures to protect the persecuted people.

          (PS - this isn't a crusade, because that's formally declared and promises certain spiritual benefits to the warrioes)

          http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....story.html

          1. Notorious G.K.C.   11 years ago

            warriors

            1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

              Come out and plaaaaay?

      2. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        Do we get our Templars back?

        1. gaijin   11 years ago

          Surely Templars Back?

        2. Steve G   11 years ago

          We chose ...poorly

      3. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        You know, as a fan of history, I could get on board with that. THE EIGHTH CRUSADE.

      4. tarran   11 years ago

        The ISIS jihadis and the Shiites are going after the christians in the area. These communities date back to the Roman era, and are being snuffed out... literally.

        I think the use of arms in their defense falls pretty firmly within the bounds of the Catholic Church's Just War doctrine.

        1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

          But, but, crusades evil.

          Jihad Goooood!!111!

        2. newnamename   11 years ago

          Source for Shiites going after Christians?

          1. cavalier973   11 years ago

            You think it's the Sunnis, then?

            1. newnamename   11 years ago

              ISIS are Sunnis, so yes.

          2. tarran   11 years ago

            Source for Shiites going after Christians?

            I remember reading about some incidents in the south-east of Iraq, but I can't find where. It might be that I am misremembering.

  8. sarcasmic   11 years ago

    A VERY pricey game of cops and robbers: Officers baffled after pulling over a man who overhauled his $100,000 Maserati to look like a police car

    Driver pulled over in Braintree, Massachusetts, at the weekend
    Told the officer he was assisting police because people would slow down when they saw the car
    Had written 'Decepticons punish and enslave' on the door instead of 'Protect and Serve'

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....olice.html
    Cops just want to take the car I bet.

    1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

      The People of the Commonwealth of Massachusetts v. Pseudo Police Car

      1. WTF   11 years ago

        Ha ha, I first read that as Pedo Police Car.

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          Those all say 'D.A.R.E.' on the side.

          1. Citizen Nothing   11 years ago

            Nice.

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      The police can't be so stupid as to be baffled by the idea that people want the legal privileges that cops get, can they?

      Wait, don't answer that question.

    3. Steve G   11 years ago

      He'll likely be ordered to paint his car?!? Yet, I could go out and buy a retired cop car at auction with the normal cop paint scheme intact minus the decals and lights and be unmolested. WTF, it's art man!

    4. Rufus J. Firefly   11 years ago

      First, why would anyone want to desecrate a beautiful car with a cop impersonation of all things? And I'm not so sure this is impersonating. Second, if he wanted to impersonate the cops, all he had to do was buy the cars used by Keystone Kops.

      1. hamilton   11 years ago

        He was trying to turn his car into Barricade, I presume.

    5. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

      Looks to me like this is a rolling protest. First Amendment FTW!

  9. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Ferguson Police Department continues to withhold the name of the officer who shot and killed Brown.

    Just like they would any civilian under investigation.

    1. Pathogen   11 years ago

      They want to give anonymous the chance to out him, at the worst possible time..

  10. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    More bang for your buck

    Now specialist websites and apps are allowing information to flow between buyer and seller, making it easier to strike mutually satisfactory deals. The sex trade is becoming easier to enter and safer to work in: prostitutes can warn each other about violent clients, and do background and health checks before taking a booking. Personal web pages allow them to advertise and arrange meetings online; their clients' feedback on review sites helps others to proceed with confidence.

    Even in places such as America, where prostitution and its facilitation are illegal everywhere except Nevada, the marketing and arrangement of commercial sex is moving online. To get round the laws, web servers are placed abroad; site-owners and users hide behind pseudonyms; and prominently placed legalese frames the purpose of sites as "entertainment" and their content as "fiction".

    1. gaijin   11 years ago

      More bang for your buck

      So, deflationary or inflationary activity?

      1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

        *narrows gaze*

        Not this, again...

      2. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

        first one then another.

    2. JW   11 years ago

      Whoreber? Yelpdelo?

      1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

        Luber.

  11. Rich   11 years ago

    First female winner for Fields maths medal

    Ha! Suck on *that*, Barbie!

    1. Jordan   11 years ago

      Tony said we shouldn't take mathematics seriously, since it's dominated by white males.

      1. Doctor Whom   11 years ago

        People keep telling me that the STEM subjects have no applicability to the real world (unlike postmodernism, I guess).

        1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

          I'm very skeptical about that.

          On the other hand, one of my high school English teachers tried to argue that math was just "made up" by people, while English wasn't...

          1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

            I hope this was at a public school. If so, it's another anecdotal stake in the heart of that cunty vampire.

            1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

              Yes, it was a public high school.

          2. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

            On the other hand, one of my high school English teachers tried to argue that math was just "made up" by people, while English wasn't...

            Math was deliberate, English was a mutant bastard accident child of a language that is in the process of cannibalizing all others to become High Gothic.

            1. Gadianton   11 years ago

              English grew out of the attempts of Norman men-at-arms to make dates with Saxon barmaids. The resulting language is as legitimate as the results of the dates.

              Paraphrasing H. Beam Piper

              1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                +1 Space Viking

            2. Colonel Slanders   11 years ago

              Yes, but perhaps High Gothic will be cannibilized and become Lingua-technis?

          3. Zeb   11 years ago

            Well, mathematicians and philosophers still disagree about whether math is invented or discovered. Whatever the answer is, it is pretty irrelevant to the value of teaching it in school.

            1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

              Regardless of whether or not we ever figured it out (or what words/symbols we came up with to express it): 1+1=2

              1. Zeb   11 years ago

                Yeah, sure. Natural numbers correspond to real things that you can count. Most math doesn't work that way.

                I tend toward the side that says math is discovered rather than invented, but there probably isn't a final definite answer.

                1. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

                  Here's my take on it: the concepts are discovered, math is then invented to describe the concepts. Look up Sir William Rowan Hamilton and the history of quaternions as an example.

                  1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

                    Quaternions were such a weird concept when I first started doing ACS/GNC.

                    1. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

                      I fried a decent number of synapses trying to grasp the underlying concept. I tried and tried before I came to the conclusion that it's very likely beyond what I can wrap my brain around.

                    2. Adam.   11 years ago

                      I have a text book on quaternions that i haven't started yet, call me a masochist for buying it i guess. what's ACS/GNC?

                    3. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

                      Attitude control/guidance, navigation, and control. Basically, controlling the position spacecraft.

                  2. Zeb   11 years ago

                    Quaternions, like most math used in physics, is a specific case of a much more general mathematical concept.

            2. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

              Math is a language created by humans with the narrow focus of attempting to describe how the universe works.

              1. Zeb   11 years ago

                That's more what science is. There is an awful lot of math that doesn't (yet, at least) have any application in describing the physical world.

                1. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

                  Science is the field, math is the language used in that field. I'm not a mathematician, but could you give me an example of math not being used to describe the universe? I'd like to check it out, seriously.

                  1. cavalier973   11 years ago

                    "Is it, in fact, possible to do science without mathematics? This question was answered by Hartry Field who in 1980 demonstrated the dispensability of mathematics to physics. Field, a Fictionalist, does not advocate doing science without mathematics, since he admits it is such a useful tool: he has chapters in his book Science Without Numbers: a Defence of Nominalism devoted to showing why mathematical entities are useful; but he demonstrated that physics is not dependent on mathematics and can be done apart from mathematics. He did so (using gravitational theory as an example) by avoiding the conventional approach of deriving a gravitational potential function, i.e. gravitational potential in terms of spacetime points (which commits one to realism about space, time, functions and real numbers)."

                    1. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

                      Thanks, I'll have a look when I get home and am not limited by my phone.

                  2. Zeb   11 years ago

                    Let's see, where to start. A lot of things in number theory have no obvious practical application. I'm sure you have heard of Fermat's last theorem. That's probably a good example.
                    The math necessary for science (at this point anyway) has been pretty well figured out for a long time. Most truly new math is pretty esoteric and has little immediate applicability. Mathematicians also like to generalize things as much as possible, so even in areas which do apply to describing the world, the math generally goes well beyond what is needed for science. An easy to grasp example is the kind of math necessary to describe the curvature of space-time. Science only needs 4 dimensions, usually (or more if you consider string theory to be science), but mathematicians will try to come up with general theorems for arbitrarily many dimensions.

        2. Zeb   11 years ago

          Who says that? The TE part, at least, is pretty much by definition practically applicable to the real world.

          1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

            Both of which are built on a foundation from the other two.

            1. Zeb   11 years ago

              Indeed. Can't have the modern world without a bit of S&M.

              1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

                Spaniards and Mexicans?

                1. Zeb   11 years ago

                  Hey, are you small?

                  1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

                    Obsequious and clairvoyant

      2. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

        No, really, he didn't say that did he? He couldn't possible be that ridiculous.

    2. gaijin   11 years ago

      and she is Iranian! Drone her or she will be building a bombs in no time

      /neocon

    3. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Note the BBC meta-context: the URL is "science-environment".

      1. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

        grrrrrr...

    4. Steve G   11 years ago

      Also among the winners was Prof Martin Hairer from the University of Warwick, UK, whose work on randomness could prove useful for climate modelling.

      Of course it will..

      1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

        They gotta get those hockey sticks out of random variation somehow.

  12. Longtorso, Johnny   11 years ago

    Left wing idiot Fred "White Evangelicals" Clark comments on Michael "Warboner" Spenser. People, we're thru the Derpingglass here.

    An Internet Monk's prediction and the 'rise of the nones'

  13. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Obama Administration Loosens Ban on Lobbyists in Government

    Under a new rule, registered lobbyists whom Mr. Obama had previously barred from serving on government advisory boards may now participate if they are representing companies or groups and not acting on their own behalf.

    The change was published in the Federal Register and took effect immediately, the administration said. It comes after the United States Court of Appeals for the District of Columbia rejected the Obama administration's efforts to dismiss a lawsuit by six lobbyists who challenged the ban's constitutionality after being excluded from a trade advisory committee. The lobbyists said their First Amendment rights to petition the government had been violated.

    1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      So now my great-great-great-great-great-great-great-great grandkids are fucked?

      Thanks Obama.

    2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      What's odd is that the "ban" seems totally pointless, as this administration is more captive of various interests than most.

      1. John   11 years ago

        And who leaves a big paying lobbyist job for a work a day GS one?

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          Someone who will make even more money as a result?

          1. John   11 years ago

            Yeah. I guess they look at it as sort of a sabbatical.

  14. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    The Vatican, meanwhile, has endorsed the U.S. air strikes in Iraq, something it usually doesn't do.

    God helps those who help themselves to strafing runs.

    1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

      The Vatican, meanwhile, has endorsed the U.S. air strikes in Iraq, something it usually doesn't do.

      True, air power was not well developed during the crusades.

    2. antisocial-ist   11 years ago

      The pope is a dedicated prog, this should surprise no one. Somebody might want to check judge Nap's blood pressure though.

    3. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

      Lord help me, I read that as "God helps those who help themselves to strafing nuns."

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        Well, Flying Nuns can go on Strafing runs...

        1. Flying Nun Strafing Run   11 years ago

          Yeah, Baby!

      2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

        Vatican Makes Shocking Revelation.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

          Scandal.

          1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

            I know, yet silence. I suspect a Freemason-engineered cover-up.

  15. sarcasmic   11 years ago

    Woman sparks outrage by posting 'funny' photos of baby granddaughter in a roasting pan and with duct tape on her face

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....-face.html
    Lots of stupid in the comments.

    1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      Why am I hungry?

    2. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      Why am I hungry?

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        Because you're a Humanitarian, Drax.

        1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

          Goddamn server squirrels.

          1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

            You sure it wasn't a server raccoon?

            1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

              Could have been. Or some overly cutesy murderous tree.

          2. Ted S.   11 years ago

            Perhaps if you ate the server squirrels you wouldn't be so hungry.

    3. Ted S.   11 years ago

      I remember the outrage over Bonsai Kitten.

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        I was so sad when I discovered it was a hoax...

        Strangely I found out it was a hoax before I found out what it was. I still want one - even if it's a stuffed cat in a jar.

        Hrmmm... Anyone know a toymaker?

  16. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    'Underwear-stealing ghosts made my life hell': Hull woman forced to move seven times

    When her underwear started going missing, little did she know it would signal the start of two years of hell.

    Because what could have been dismissed as a slight annoyance, was actually the work of forces beyond this world and one of many paranormal pranks that would ruin Pauline Hickson's life.

    The 58-year-old says she was forced to move home seven times in two years because she has been followed around by two ghosts, who would steal her bras, take her jewellery and even use the shower.

    Blind ghosts?

    1. Rich   11 years ago

      after a so-called "hypno-exorcism"? a little-known ghost busting technique ? she says she is free of the mischievous spirits

      "Hypno-exorcism", indeed.

      1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

        I prefer the hypno-toad.

    2. BiMonSciFiCon   11 years ago

      Step 3 = Profit!

    3. Matrix   11 years ago

      Casper's cousin, Jasper the pervy ghost

    4. Tonio   11 years ago

      But absolutely no way there could be a simpler explanation for this, such as actual living human beings.

      1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

        I don't feel like reading it...but was the stolen underwear clean or dirty?

        1. Ted S.   11 years ago

          Yes.

        2. Elspeth Flashman   11 years ago

          You'd be the only one who'd want to know.

          1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

            When you are 78, you take what you can get.

          2. Tonio   11 years ago

            Apparently that's a thing, EF.

      2. Doctor Whom   11 years ago

        Stop persecuting her for her faith!

        1. Tonio   11 years ago

          Yeah, this. Because under the FA if you privilege any one belief system you have to privilege every single one of them.

    5. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Go commando.

  17. Dammit, not again   11 years ago

    Am I the only one who wants to capture Steve Ballmer and Paul Allen, strip them naked, oil 'em up, and have them grapple until submission, while beaming the action to every television set across the Fruited Plain? The winner assumes ownership of the other's professional sports outfit (L. Angeles Clippers v. The Seahawks of Seattle)

    1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

      DO NOT WANT!

      1. Dammit, not again   11 years ago

        I urge you to reconsider.

    2. gaijin   11 years ago

      yes

    3. Doctor Whom   11 years ago

      Why, yes, I believe you are.

    4. hamilton   11 years ago

      To be fair, that's kinda tame for this crowd. No mention of anal, Mexicans, cocktails, or foreskins.

      1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        HnR has gotten too dull lately. I'm cancelling my subscription!

        1. hamilton   11 years ago

          No fair starting a drinking binge at 10 AM.

          1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            I'm basically on vacation at this point.

      2. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

        Or deep dish pizza or weed.

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          Or Cincinatti and black woman names.

    5. alittlesense   11 years ago

      Mother of Pearl...the nausea......

  18. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Paris Hilton paid $2.7M for four nights DJ-ing

    Paris Hilton scooped $2.7 million for four nights work as part of her new two-month DJ tour.

    The heiress kicked off her run of 13 gigs with a set at Ibiza's Amnesia club, where she has a residency, on Wednesday night, but she was slammed for earning $347,000-an-hour.

    1. Gene   11 years ago

      Blow ain't free ya know.

    2. Vapourwear   11 years ago

      Fuck society's value system.

    3. Ted S.   11 years ago

      If somebody wants to pay her that much and isn't trying to use my money to do it, more power to both parties.

      1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        No one is saying they should be prevented from doing it.

        But if you're paying someone $347k an hour to do something that an iPod could do automatically then you're an idiot.

        1. RG   11 years ago

          Ehhh, they may make that back in cover charges and booze sales. The real idiots are the morons paying the higher cover to see her.

        2. Zeb   11 years ago

          But an iPod can't be Paris Hilton. I don't know why people value a night club that has a Paris Hilton in it more than one that doesn't, but it does seem to be the case.

        3. alittlesense   11 years ago

          You insult the iPod by comparing it to Paris Hilton

          1. Zeb   11 years ago

            I really don't give a shit about iPods or Paris Hilton one way or the other.

    4. Scruffy Nerfherder   11 years ago

      Paris is leveraging her assets. I'll give her credit for that.

      1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

        I've always thought the people who say she is stupid are, well, wrong.

  19. Jordan   11 years ago

    Gun sales in Ferguson have quadrupled.

    Do not read the comments there. Holy shit.

    1. Rich   11 years ago

      I'm going in.

      *** takes deep breath ***

      1. gaijin   11 years ago

        We'll wait 30 minutes and call search and rescue if you aren't back by then. God speed

      2. Rich   11 years ago

        *** cough, cough, sputter ***

        Whew! It's pretty gruesome down there. Jordan's right!

        But I did learn a new term: "Undocumented Purchases".

        1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

          Is that what it's called when an illegal alien buys something under the table without paying taxes?

          1. sarcasmic   11 years ago

            It's the new pc term for looting.

            1. Zeb   11 years ago

              Shouldn't that be "undocumented non-purchases"? Or perhaps "indefinite unauthorized borrowing"?

      3. Jordan   11 years ago

        RIP, buddy.

      4. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

        NOOOO!!!! RICH, COME BACK!!!

      5. Restoras   11 years ago

        I went in. Wow. Utterly frightening. My 'faith' in humanity has not been restored, not that it ever existed to begin with.

        Reading those comments - it's how I imagine Athens after the death of Pericles.

        1. cavalier973   11 years ago

          Did you engage the arguments?

    2. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Earl Turner ? 5 minutes ago

      Go Ebola! Go Ebola! Go Ebola!

      ? ?
      ?Reply ?Share ?

      Ebola has a sports team?

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        No, it's the new mascot of the Liberian national team

        1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

          I...you...I mean...just...

          *walks away shaking head*

          1. Pathogen   11 years ago

            It gets.. ummm.. better..

            1776 ? an hour ago

            AMERICA NEEDS SOME WEAPONIZED SICKLE CELL ANEMIA!!!

            2 ? ?
            ?Reply ?Share ?

            Jeeeeesus Christ.. what a cunt.

            1. SugarFree   11 years ago

              Is that briannnnn's new handle?

              1. Los Doyers   11 years ago

                Shhh, he can hear you typing.

              2. JW   11 years ago

                He's just moonlighting.

      2. Dr. Heinz Doofenshmirtz   11 years ago

        One year as a head coach for a city league soccer team I tried to convince the kids that we should be called H1N1. The kids of course had no idea what I was talking about - but it would have been fun to hear the parents cheer - GO H1N1!

  20. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Wash. police: Man arrested for assault with mashed potatoes

    A Centralia man was arrested Sunday after he allegedly threw mashed potatoes on another customer at a local restaurant, police said.

    Officers responded to the scene, a restaurant in the 600 block of West Main Street, at about 4:50 p.m. after receiving a report of an assault.

    Arriving at the scene, they arrested a 38-year-old man. He was booked into jail for investigation of fourth-degree assault.

  21. Longtorso, Johnny   11 years ago

    Look at what I bought from Amazon

    I'm going to name it 'Weigel'.

    1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

      Seriously, I wonder if whomever wrote the product description was messing with the company:

      Made of durable polymer with a band of non-latex, Santoprene, The Knobble II gives your hand more power when you need it.?Use either the tip or the base for applying pressure on yourself or others.

      Or am I betraying my own ignorance by missing something here?

    2. Andrew S.   11 years ago

      Is this something I'm going to click on and then later regret clicking on after seeing new suggestions on my amazon front page?

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        Do You know you can remove items from your amazon browsing history to avoid that very scenario?

      2. Raven Nation   11 years ago

        It's a self-massager so, no?

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          Yes, there is nothing that could be described as a "self-massager" on Amazon that could be conceived as embarrassing

  22. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    'Chillin' with my homie or what's left of him'
    British rapper turned ISIS jihadist poses with severed head as they seize more key towns close to Syrian border with Turkey

    A British rapper who travelled to Syria to fight for ISIS has posted a photograph on Twitter showing himself posing with a severed head.

    The sickening image was taken in the city of Raqqa - the capital of ISIS' self-declared caliphate - and uploaded to the social media site along with the caption 'Chillin' with my homie or what's left of him.'

    The photograph shows masked former rapper Abdel-Majed Abdel Bary, 23, holding the decapitated head while standing in Raqqa's central square - the same location where the seven-year-old son of Australian jihadist Khaled Sharrouf was seen holding a different severed head earlier this week.

    1. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      Well, that's no way to get ahead in life.

      1. Elspeth Flashman   11 years ago

        What's that in the road, a head?

      2. Drake   11 years ago

        He'll never be the head of a major corporation.

    2. Flying Nun Strafing Run   11 years ago

      I predict severed-head selfies will be big this Halloween.

    3. cavalier973   11 years ago

      It was the rap "music" that pushed him over the edge; we should ban that stuff.

  23. Jordan   11 years ago

    Hotel threatens guests over 'logging' craze no one even knew about (deliberately pooing in the pool)

    A hotel has been forced to send out a letter to its British guests threatening ?1,400 fines for anyone caught 'logging' in swimming pools while on holiday.

    The bizarre internet craze (that's no one had heard of until now) has apparently become a favourite pastime for 'boozed up Brits abroad', according to one holiday spot in Egypt.

    The owners claim participants are deliberately pooing in their crowded pools before 'watching the carnage unfold around them'.

    1. gaijin   11 years ago

      are they sure it wasn;t just a candy bar?

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        maybe once upon a time... before it met digestive ensymes.

      2. Pathogen   11 years ago

        +1 Baby Ruth..

    2. Zeb   11 years ago

      British tourists are so charming.

      1. JW   11 years ago

        Now all I can picture is a goofy-toothed ginger, squatting over the edge of a pool and grimacing.

    3. cavalier973   11 years ago

      "I'm a logger. Just down from Coos Bay, Oregon."

  24. Fist of Etiquette   11 years ago

    Hamas, which rules Gaza, where the bulk of civilian casualties have been, insists this would be the last ceasefire they agree to.

    People are starting to catch on and it's looking bad to always be the one breaking them.

  25. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Obama Donors Embrace Corporate Inversions He Criticizes

    President Barack Obama has been bashing companies that pursue offshore mergers to reduce taxes. He hasn't talked about the people behind the deals -- some of whom are his biggest donors.

    Executives, advisers and directors involved in some of the tax-cutting transactions include Blair Effron, an investment banker who hosted Obama for a May fundraiser at his two-level, 9,000-square-foot apartment on Manhattan's Upper East Side.

    Others are Jim Rogers, co-chairman of the host committee for the 2012 Democratic National Convention; Roger Altman, a former senior Treasury Department official who raised at least $200,000 for Obama's re-election campaign; and Shantanu Narayen, who sits on the president's management advisory board.

  26. Jordan   11 years ago

    Anybody watching Tyrant? I watched the first episode and like it a lot. Haven't watched any others yet, but will soon.

    Meanwhile, I just can't get into The Strain. It's just too ridiculous. And I really don't like the CDC bureaucrat main characters ("hey look how eccentric I am! I drive a weird Mercedes jeep thing").

    1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

      I watched the first episode of the The Strain and was bored most of the time.

    2. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      I've seen a couple episodes. Unfortunately, the fact that everyone speaks English all the time is a little annoying, but I guess no one in Paducah would watch it if brown people were speaking arabic/farsi/made up bullshit.

      I think the arc of the show will be kind of like Breaking Bad, where the main character, in an attempt to do something good, will become a monster. Not sure how they can drag the show out for more than 3 seasons without a huge budget though.

    3. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      In my opinion it quickly goes downhill and the main nuclear family is too retarded to be believable. The actor playing the brother is pretty good though.

    4. seguin   11 years ago

      I like The Strain. I've been waiting for non-emo vampires for some time now, and full-on Nosferatu? Heck yeah. Admittedly, some of the stuff that's happened has been silly (like the proboscis thing and... the flushing)

      There's nothing eccentric about owning a Land Rover Defender. Period. They're nice trucks, classics. He even explains why he has it in the third episode (and implicitly explains why it's LHD). Plenty of people drive old cars daily, most of my friends for instance.

      I could do without using the Nazis as the flashback villain though. It's @#$@#$ tired. There are so many other genocidaires out there. The thing's a strigoi - why not Ceausescu?

      Anyway, it neatly subverts a lot of modern TV tropes while unfortunately leaning on a couple of others, but overall I think it's pretty good.

    5. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

      I been meaning to pick up Tyrant. Thanks for the reminder.

  27. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Hawkish Hillary Risks Alienating the Left

    Hillary has another problem. As she pulls away from Obama, asserting her hawkish credentials, she risks alienating her liberal base and souring Americans who remain wary of involvements overseas. Criticism of Obama's hesitance to arm the rebels in Syria, her push for engagement in Libya, her endorsement of the surge in Afghanistan and drone strikes in Pakistan, and her past vote in favor of the Iraq war establishes her as a card-carrying interventionist.

    In the Atlantic interview, Hillary sounds positively bellicose, a feminine John McCain. She describes herself as "hepped up" about jihadism (a welcome change from our somnolent Commander in Chief), gets excited about the U.S. "advancing the cause of freedom," celebrates the "defeat" of the Soviet Union, sticks up for Israel's right to defend itself and throws in the occasional "damn" just to emphasize her stars-and-stripes grit. While music to the ears of those frustrated by Obama's lack of leadership, the Left will not be happy.

    Don't worry, the left will get in line for 2016.

    1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

      The left hasn't been anti-intervention since January 19, 2009. Not sure why that would change for Hillary.

      1. John   11 years ago

        Because they don't like the Clintons and just because they let their last boy friend beat them up doesn't mean the new one can do it.

        The Left is going to go all in for Fauxcohontus or whatever retard steps up to give them a hug. The 2016 Dem Primaries are going to be brutal.

        1. robc   11 years ago

          Could a Hillary-Warren war lead to Biden getting the nomination?

          Lol, good times.

          1. John   11 years ago

            If Hillary goes full Neocon, and it looks like she is, it is going to be a battle royal.

          2. Raven Nation   11 years ago

            Hilary-Christie

            1. John   11 years ago

              If Warren and Paul were to win the nomination, I could totally see that happening. It would be a crooked establishment unity ticket.

          3. Tonio   11 years ago

            That's an interesting possibility robc. I don't think he could win in a general election unless it was against someone like Christie, and I think the party elders know that.

        2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          Julian Castro. I'm telling you, they're going to want to redo Obama. Warren is a little too well known to play that role.

          People forget how much Obama tried to sound like a centrist in 2008 (and, really, in 2012, too, despite all of the evidence to the contrary). Warren can't do that, because there's too much recent stuff that makes that laughable. Others, less well-known, can.

          1. John   11 years ago

            See my McCardle comment below. Also, since Obama is such a miserable failure, the Progs are already disowning him and calling him a centrist who was never one of theirs.

            You are right Warran can't claim to be a centrist. But I honestly think the Left wants a full on retard. They don't want anyone who will pretend. I don't think Castro has the money or the organization to get the nomination. The other problem is that Bill Clinton is still beloved in the black community. In a match up with a Latin, Hillary would get 95%+ of the black vote. I don't think you could win the Democratic nomination without getting at least a decent share of the black vote. It would be like winning the GOP nomination while losing 95% of the evangelicals. Possible, but pretty hard.

          2. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

            Clinton-Castro.

            Alternative: Booker-Castro - the perfect way to sew up the minority vote.

            Related: I thought it was a mistake for Romney to pick a white dude Ryan. A woman or "minority" (I hate that term) would have been the better political choice. ?

            1. John   11 years ago

              Booker is probably gay and has a ton of skeletons in his closet from his days in Newark. Yeah, I know I could be describing Obama in 2006. But, I really don't think even the Democrats want to elect another blank slate black guy. No way will Booker even run.

              Clinton-Castro would be a complete disaster since it would make getting the monumental black turnout necessary for a win virtually impossible.

              1. Troglodyte Rex   11 years ago

                But, I really don't think even the Democrats want to elect another blank slate black guy.

                I can see calls for vetting the fuck out of any seemingly unknown after the ball was dropped on the current office holder.

                1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

                  Nah. In TEAM sports, its not performance in office that matters.

                  Its winning elections.

          3. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

            Warren can't do that, because there's too much recent stuff that makes that laughable.

            You assume the DemOp Media won't do their bit to cover all that up for her.

            1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

              Obama was really invisible except for the convention speech. Warren is not.

  28. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Why labor unions are more like Miley Cyrus and Lindsay Lohan than you realize

    With their grip on power in modern American culture slipping daily, the country's labor unions will try anything to to hold onto their dominion and relevance.

    No, really. Anything. Anything at all.

    Defending academic plagiarism? Check. Threatening dissenters? Yup. Tricking its own members to keep them funnelling cash to the bosses? Yup, that too.

    Maybe they twerk on Robin Thicke next? It worked wonders for Miley Cyrus' celebrity.

  29. sarcasmic   11 years ago

    A hermit's hideaway 6 miles off the coast of Maine: New England's tallest lighthouse is up for sale...but is it also its loneliest home?

    Boon Island and its 133-foot lighthouse are being auctioned by the federal government
    The tiny, rocky island sits just 14 feet above sea level and was once the site of a shipwreck where sailors survived by cannibalizing each other
    The government has extended its auction of the island once and could do so a second time as bids have only reached $41,000

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new.....-home.html

    1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

      Two questions - How's the internet connection, and can I get UPS/FedEx to deliver there?

      1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

        Hmm, 14 feet above sea level could become uncomfortable during a storm.

        1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

          That's what the rest of the 133 feet of the tower are for!

          1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

            True. Hopefully, there are drains in the base.

      2. Ted S.   11 years ago

        This is what Amazon's drone delivery program is for.

      3. The DerpRider   11 years ago

        If it's six miles off the coast, isn't that international waters? Libertopia is born!

        1. SugarFree   11 years ago

          International waters is 11 miles.

          1. SugarFree   11 years ago

            But living 6 miles off the coast does cut down on wrong address SWAT raid somewhat.

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      Wouldn't a lot of people here like to get away from humanity?

      1. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

        Yes! A resounding yes.

      2. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

        "I love humanity...it is people that I cannot stand"

        1. Raven Nation   11 years ago

          +1 Rousseau (maybe) and Linus van Pelt.

    3. Drake   11 years ago

      Is 6 miles far enough away to declare independence? I know a good template for the declaration.

      1. Marshall Gill   11 years ago

        Just don't fuck it up by replacing "property" with "the pursuit of happiness" like TJ did.

  30. Idle Hands   11 years ago

    Well apparently none of us are boyfriend material.

    3) "Which amendment in the Bill of Rights do you think is the most important?"

    Second: Run. Seriously, just run! Your man might not be an asshole to people on the Internet because he's too busy being an open-carrying asshole in real life.

    First: This could be a huge warning sign. Trolls cite the First Amendment as frequently as college application essays cite "The Road Not Taken." They think that it gives them the right to verbally harass, stalk, and threaten whomever they want without any consequences. If your man picks the First Amendment, just ask him to explain what it means. If he thinks it means that "it's a free country" and "people can say whatever they want," tell him to go back to the playground he learned his politics from and find a new boyfriend.

    1. Andrew S.   11 years ago

      What do I get for "Most Important is an idiotic question, because they're all important, you idiot"?

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        Dumped on the spot for your exercise of the 1st.

      2. Idle Hands   11 years ago

        Let me mainsplain it so you'll get it through your thick masculine skull: go back to the playground where you learned politics Andrew S.

      3. Doctor Whom   11 years ago

        You get a trip to a consciousness-raising. The freedom to have an abortion is good, as are certain other cherry-picked freedoms. The rest mark you as a racist, so why are you such a racist, you racist?

    2. John   11 years ago

      Do a google search on the author. She is a thin, reasonably attractive, upper class, young white women. Here she is lecturing fat girls and minority girls, who often have few choices for men that they need to be more picky.

      Looks to me like someone needs to check her privilege.

      1. sarcasmic   11 years ago

        reasonably attractive

        Except for that nose. She looks like a fucking toucan.

        1. John   11 years ago

          Better a big nose than being a fat chick.

          1. $park? has had enough   11 years ago

            *gasp* *blink* John, is that really you?

            1. Bobarian   11 years ago

              When John calls someone fat, you know it's true.

      2. Idle Hands   11 years ago

        Well she did get the Seth MacFarlane part right.

      3. Idle Hands   11 years ago

        lol, that chicks a dude baby:

        Samantha Allen (@CousinDangereux) is a transgender woman, an ex-Mormon and a PhD student in Women's, Gender and Sexuality Studies at Emory University writing a dissertation on sexual fetishism. She writes regularly for The Border House and has contributed to Kotaku, Medium Difficulty and First Person Scholar. She is also an erstwhile singer-songwriter. You can find her on the web or on Twitter.

        1. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

          She sounds like am absolute barrel of fun.

          1. John   11 years ago

            She might be; provided she has a fun fetish.

        2. John   11 years ago

          Do her lips take like cherry cola?

          I am not the world's most masculine guy but I guess twitter pics can be fooling.

        3. John   11 years ago

          Serious question, does "transgendered woman" mean she is a guy who thinks he is a girl or a girl who thinks she is a guy? It could be either way and I left my fruit loop scorecard at home this morning.

          1. Fr?ulein Nikki   11 years ago

            Strongly suggests M to F because she is currently calling herself a woman.

            1. John   11 years ago

              Probably. She fooled me. Either she is pretty convincing or I am more suited to the other team than I thought I was.

              1. tarran   11 years ago

                In your defense, she's using her nose to hide her adams apple...

          2. Idle Hands   11 years ago

            Well he/she did crowd-fund a vagina so I think he/she is women now anyway. I wasted entirely to much time looking this person up.

          3. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            The way I remember it is to just think of them as lying. So "woman" is a lie for "man".

            He's a dude who thinks he's a chick.

          4. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

            She was born with a male body. But if you google her name, it appears she is now post-op (crowd funded apparently!).

            1. cavalier973   11 years ago

              I know a guy who thought he was a rabbit born in a human's body. I was told we had to confirm his lifestyle or we would be considered bigots.

              1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                So you fed him a lot of pellets and used his poop for compost?

              2. AlexInCT   11 years ago

                You give him any carrots and ask em what was up doc?

                1. cavalier973   11 years ago

                  We shot him and made hasenpfeffer. At least we weren't bigots about it.

          5. WTF   11 years ago

            A trans woman (sometimes trans-woman or transwoman) is a male-to-female (MTF) transgender person with a female gender identity. The label of transgender woman is not always interchangeable with that of transsexual woman, although the two labels are often used in this way. Transgender is an umbrella term that includes different types of gender variant people (including transsexual people).

            From that I think it means she is a man claiming to be a woman.

            1. John   11 years ago

              Apparently so. And doing it well enough to fool me.

      4. lap83   11 years ago

        She's not just telling them to be picky, she's telling them to be picky about the wrong things.

        Any man whose favorite amendment is the second is likely to be an intelligent, strong, and fiercely loyal partner who knows the importance of being able to defend your loved ones. To actively avoid men like that is dangerously stupid. Loyalty and knowledge of your country's history is a dealbreaker? Good luck with your love life. You'll need it.

        1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

          If your goal is a submissive beta male, then filtering out 1A and 2A supporters is an excellent start.

    3. sarcasmic   11 years ago

      Tenth: Your man is passionate about states' rights. Racists and homophobes love states' rights. Be afraid.

      Um, yeah.

      1. ant1sthenes   11 years ago

        Racists and homophobes like to post stupid shit on the internet, the author likes to post stupid shit on the internet... I'm not saying she's racist, but it's an interesting coincidence, isn't it?

    4. hamilton   11 years ago

      "Eighth - I'm not into BDSM"
      "Third - No quartering my soldier in your premises without your consent, baby."

      (for college students): "Sixth, just so you remember when the campus tribunal expels me".

    5. Drax the Destroyer   11 years ago

      I love how not actively hating the tenth amendment = racist. Fucking bitches.

      1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        It appears that the only "correct" answer is the super vague one, and only because it might mean he's down with killing babies.

    6. WTF   11 years ago

      So, is the Third Amendment an acceptable choice?

      1. UnCivilServant   11 years ago

        Why do you hate the Heroes (tm)!

        1. Pathogen   11 years ago

          Alt + 0153 = ?

      2. tarran   11 years ago

        I read the piece. According to her, liking the third amendment means you are a loser.

        1. Tonio   11 years ago

          According to the author the Third is "silly."

          She gets appropriately taken down in the comments there, though.

    7. Apatheist ?_??   11 years ago

      4) "Can I borrow your laptop really quick?"

      Ask him this question when he's in the middle of using it. And then count how long it takes for him to get his computer into a state where he's comfortable handing it over to you. If he passes it over immediately with his email and social media accounts still open, you're likely to be in the clear. This is a man with nothing to hide.

      If he spends thirty seconds meticulously logging out of his email and social media accounts before handing it to you, there might be something going on with him and trolling is definitely on the table. It's 2014, after all. Men don't just cheat on you and watch too much porn anymore. They also obsessively track down and harass people who are different from them in order to feel the fleeting sense of control and superiority that defines their particular version of masculinity.

      Um, because the only reason someone would want electronic privacy is to hide their internet trolling?

      How bout this, any person who demands to read your emails should be dumped on the spot.

      1. robc   11 years ago

        How about, I spent 15 years working in IT and I dont leave myself logged in ever?

        1. robc   11 years ago

          Early in our relationship I created an account on my laptop for my girlfriend (now wife). Because that is how computers work. You use your own account always.

          1. Bobarian   11 years ago

            ^^THIS

      2. Ted S.   11 years ago

        I wonder how she'd react if he wanted to read her emails and "social" media accounts.

        1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

          Check your privilege, you bigoted woman-hating racist?

    8. robc   11 years ago

      What if you answer 3rd?

      1. John   11 years ago

        It means he doesn't like a girl in uniform and he needs to go.

        1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

          Plus he isn't willing to share!

      2. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        Then you should be dumped because "If he picks an amendment this useless, you should just dump him anyway even if he's not a troll."

        Which is funny because the only reason it's "useless" is that it's actually done its job/been respected.

    9. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

      What, pray tell, is the "right" answer to that question? The 19th? Yes, I know, but I'm using their kind of logic.

      1. NoVAHockey   11 years ago

        it's a trick. you're supposed to say "as a check in centralized power, i abhor the bill or rights and find comfort in the commerce clause."

        1. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          Ha! Wrong! It's a tax!

          1. NoVAHockey   11 years ago

            i meant the 16th!

      2. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        Not sure if you RTFA, but it's the 9th. Cause the only right you should have is the right to kill babies (as long as it's not with a gun!).

        1. SugarFree   11 years ago

          I bet Samantha Allen has had at least 4 abortions.

          1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            Not physically possible, as discussed elsewhere in this thread.

            1. SugarFree   11 years ago

              How dare you say she isn't what she says she is.

              1. waffles   11 years ago

                I will defend the right for the transgendered to have abortions. Don't you dare other me by pointing out my lack of uterus cis-shitlord.

            2. boomslang4   11 years ago

              "Where's the fetus going to gestate, in a box?"

        2. Pro Libertate   11 years ago

          That's wrong. Because that right comes from a penumbra, not any one amendment.

          Not that I agree with that logic, as the entire historical record makes it clear that we do not have enumerated rights (the government has enumerated powers, of course).

          1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            I'm just the messenger.

        3. robc   11 years ago

          As a huge fan of the 9th, she is an idiot.

    10. Zeb   11 years ago

      If he thinks it means that "it's a free country" and "people can say whatever they want,"

      So what does freedom of speech mean then?

      1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

        You are free to repeat the proggy catechisms.

    11. Brian D   11 years ago

      Wow, the comments are not a sea of derp.

      1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

        probably because it was linked by instapundit and the college fix. Which is exactly what this kind of troll piece was designed to do. Not enough complete facists even on the left to justify paying someone to write this drivel.

    12. Drake   11 years ago

      Wow, I've been out of the dating pool for a while. This list was put together by a woman getting a doctorate?

      1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

        This list was put together by a "woman" getting a doctorate?

    13. PRX   11 years ago

      dating advice from a eunuch. Fermi Paradox answered.

      1. Tonio   11 years ago

        Dating is different than sex, PRX.

        1. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

          Wait, what?

  31. Jensen   11 years ago

    TRIGGER WARNING CANADIAN SATIRE

    Justin Trudeau's autobiography consists of 340 photos of Trudeau. "This is what my face looks like when I think about global warming," said Trudeau, at a packed public reading. "As you can see, I'm taking it very seriously. Like a world leader might. "And here it looks like the cameraman managed to catch me right as I'm getting out of the shower," he continued. "I look sort of angry because I'm thinking about civil rights violations, but also, I don't know, a little aroused?"

    1. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Ghost written..

    2. Ted S.   11 years ago

      That can't be satire since Trudeau really is that in love with himself now, can it?

  32. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    My Christian virginity pledge nearly destroyed me
    At the age of 10, I vowed to stay pure until I married. I finally realized my body belongs to me and not the church

    I lost my virginity on my wedding night, with my husband, just as I had promised that day when I was 10 years old. I stood in the hotel bathroom beforehand, wearing my white lingerie, thinking, "I made it. I'm a good Christian." There was no chorus of angels, no shining light from Heaven. It was just me and my husband in a dark room, fumbling with a condom and a bottle of lube for the first time.

    Sex hurt. I knew it would. Everyone told me it would be uncomfortable the first time. What they didn't tell me is that I would be back in the bathroom afterward, crying quietly for reasons I didn't yet comprehend. They didn't tell me that I'd be on my honeymoon, crying again, because sex felt dirty and wrong and sinful even though I was married and it was supposed to be okay now.

    trigger warning: Salon

    1. John   11 years ago

      So Christian virginity pledges given by ten year old kids are harmful but colleges and primary schools teaching women to think all men are rapists is totally healthy and would never cause any young women to have issues with sex and men. Got it.

    2. sarcasmic   11 years ago

      Hey babe, you think that's dirty and wrong and sinful? Get in the shower and turn around!

    3. Pathogen   11 years ago

      Prude..

    4. John   11 years ago

      The funny thing about that is that it is Catholics that are hung up about sex. Evangelical chicks fuck like rabbits. It is that whole "biblical duty to please your husband" thing. They don't have those big families because the wives think sex is dirty. Just saying.

      1. robc   11 years ago

        I wouldnt say Catholics as much as mainline protestants.

        Catholics have big families too...at least traditional ones.

        1. John   11 years ago

          Yeah but the wives feel guilty doing it. Of course they still do it, so the husband's can't complain.

      2. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

        I've dated a number of Catholic girls - and married one. They're Greeeaaaat /Tony the Tiger

        1. John   11 years ago

          I married a Catholic girl too. I thought I got the only one who wasn't guilty.

          1. NoVAHockey   11 years ago

            i honestly think that's a myth

            /catholic family.

            1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

              Seriously. My parents go to church every sunday, goes to bible study and have no problem discussing and joking about sex much to my chagrin.

              1. Restoras   11 years ago

                I think it is definitely Protestants that have more hang ups.

    5. robc   11 years ago

      sex felt dirty and wrong and sinful

      Sounds like a personal problem.

      1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

        Yeah, methinks she has deeper issues going on. Which may explain how someone could stay abstinent that long without getting married at 15.

        1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

          I certainly think total abstinence until marriage with a dose of fundie sex is dirty throughout your life could lead to some sexual hang ups

          1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

            Could be, but I would lean more to something else traumatic happening to her to have a hang-up this bad. Or perhaps she is asexual or a lesbian.

          2. robc   11 years ago

            Except outside the Shakers no one teaches that "sex is dirty throughout your life." Or even that "sex is dirty."

            1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

              You need to visit more churches.

              1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

                Which ones?

              2. robc   11 years ago

                Ive been to plenty.

                My current church borders on pentecostal (Its non-denominational, but the pastor has an AoG background).

                Ive never heard anyone say sex is dirty. Its celebrated. Inside marriage.

            2. Idle Hands   11 years ago

              yeah I went to Catholic school and at no time did any one of us take any of that shit seriously.

              1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                Are you saying they taught it but no one bought it?

                I'm just saying that's it not uncommon to find conservative churches that talk about sex and sexual desire as something that defiles ones temple. Heck, Paul himself says 'better to marry than burn,' not exactly a ringing endorsement of even totally within marriage sex

                1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

                  I'm saying I've been to Catholic Church, known quite a few evangelicals attended a baptist mass, a lutheran mass, a greek orthodox mass, catholic school, religous education and a friend who is a minister and while they don't condone sex at all before marriage their isn't this pervasive group of people who are constantly discussing how evil it is. TLDR It's a minor aspect of most religions I've been exposed to and in my experience when it is brought up it's often falls on deaf ears.

                2. Idle Hands   11 years ago

                  and while I'm not discounting that there are some seriously fucked up fundie groups out their, I'm more likely to believe that she is either not heterosexual or she is a victim of some deeper issue to feel the way she does.

                  1. Heroic Mulatto   11 years ago

                    Pictured: The author:

                    Samantha Pugsley is an English Studies graduate, freelance writer, and photographer. She's a married, bisexual, artsy super nerd who loves Marvel, fantasy/science fiction novels, video games and writing fanfiction. She's incredibly passionate about gender equality, female sexuality and reproductive rights as well as mental health reform. You can follow her on twitter @samanthapugsley

                    I've never met a SJW who hasn't worn her mental illness as a badge of honor.

                    1. Tonio   11 years ago

                      I've never met a SJW who hasn't worn her mental illness as a badge of honor.

                      This, this, a thousand times this. And what's worse is that many of them use their claimed mental illness to police the speech of others "you're triggering me, you have to stop" yet claim you're "othering" them if you walk away from their nonsense.

                  2. Restoras   11 years ago

                    Coming from a Protestant background, the 'sex is dirty' meme does run in an undercurrent. YMMV.

                    1. cavalier973   11 years ago

                      My dad, a Baptist pastor, always told me when I was growing up that sex was "a beautiful thing" that should be reserved for married couples.

                      This woman's problem isn't that she took a virginity pledge, it is that (I infer) she elevated it to a salvific level. "If I had premarital sex, then I would go to Hell." No, unbelief is the only "action" that lands one in a state of eternal separation from God.

                      She says that she would have done better to sleep with her then-boyfriend. I'm not so sure; from her writing, I would guess it possible that she would be even more emotionally damaged for having broken her "promise to God".

                3. Marshall Gill   11 years ago

                  I'm just saying that's it not uncommon to find conservative churches that talk about sex and sexual desire as something that defiles ones temple.

                  Feigned obtuseness? There is still a difference between the act being the cause of the defilement and the circumstances being the cause. You seem to be claiming that because Christians consider stealing bread a sin that they also consider eating bread a sin. As rob correctly states, it is sex outside marriage that is wrong or defiling or dirty, not the act itself.

                4. Idle Hands   11 years ago

                  'better to marry than burn,'

                  I think he's referring to vd associated with sleeping with floozies.

                  1. Idle Hands   11 years ago

                    remember the advent of penicillin is a recent phenomenon.

      2. Elspeth Flashman   11 years ago

        But that's what makes it soooo good.

    6. Matrix   11 years ago

      Sexual purity until marriage =/= sex is sinful and dirty.

      Not that I necessarily agree with pushing that on boys and girls, but that's not how it is supposed to be understood, unless you're part of some deranged cult.

      It really sounds more like the issues were from her internalizing the message and twisting it around as opposed to the message of "no sex until marriage".

      I mean, saying "no driving until you have a permit/license" isn't saying "driving is evil and wrong, and you should feel ashamed for even having desires and eventually driving when you do have this permit/license"

  33. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

    Reminder: Rape and offensive images of rape are both real problems
    Attempting to rank sexual traumas in terms of privilege does nothing to stop those traumas from happening

    A quick reminder: Ranking sexual traumas is not productive. It's something Todd Akin does, and following suit does little but buy into the problematic idea that some forms of rape are "legitimate" while others are not. It perpetuates that notion that sexual trauma doesn't count if it comes in the form of a graphic, triggering image on a screen, because an image on a screen is not a stranger at the end of a dark alley wielding a knife and forcing a woman to have sex against her will. It feeds into all the ideas we get about grey areas and "sexual touching isn't assault" and how maybe harassment and abuse are just normal parts of everyday life for women.

    trigger warning: trigger warnings

    1. Doctor Whom   11 years ago

      That's derpitudinous even by the standards of a site that talks about ancient Roman potato farmers.

    2. WTF   11 years ago

      Yes, and watching a slasher movie is the same as being hacked to death, and watching The Exorcist is the same as being possessed by a demon.

    3. John   11 years ago

      By that logic anyone who watched Schindler's list has the same claim to victim hood as a death camp survivor.

      That may be the most offensively stupid thing I have ever read. It is certainly in the top five.

      1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

        Totally off topic, but it's the first thing that pops into my head every time I hear Schindler's List now because it's so bizarre:

        Liam Neeson was Schindler.

        1. John   11 years ago

          What is the first thing?

          1. Auric Demonocles   11 years ago

            You don't find it weird to think about him playing a serious role in a drama, particularly an Oscar winner?

            1. John   11 years ago

              No. But I pretty much stopped watching mainstream movies in about 2005. So the Taken series hasn't made any impression on my consciousness. I still think of him as Rob Roy and Les Miserables. I only saw the first Star Wars Prequel, and as awful as it was, he was still pretty good in it.

              1. tarran   11 years ago

                You can't blame the actors for the first prequel. Not even Jon Lovitz, master thespian, could have acted his way out of that bad script.

                1. hamilton   11 years ago

                  I was only... ACTING!

              2. Restoras   11 years ago

                I liked Liam Neeson and Ewan McGregor in Phantom Menace.

    4. Matrix   11 years ago

      It's okay to joke about murder, assault, torture, and other similar horrible things. We make plenty of TV shows and movies that deal with these and some address them in a humorous fashion. But then we have rape. Make a rape joke, or depict it on TV and suddenly a certain segment of the population has a "frothing at the mouth" diatribe about glamorizing "rape culture." Get over yourselves. Rape is horrible. Torture is horrible. Assault is horrible. Murder is horrible. But these things are a part of life, and they can be imitated for entertainment and joked about for amusement. It's how we, as human beings, often cope with things that are so horrible and unfunny.

      1. John   11 years ago

        Rape only if it applies to women being raped. Joking about men being ass raped in prison is totally the height of acceptable humor.

        1. Colonel Slanders   11 years ago

          ^^^^ This X 1000

  34. John   11 years ago

    I was busy so I missed the comments on the McArdle "we all lost when Hillary Lost the 08 Primary" piece. The infuriating thing about that is that biggest reason Obama became President is that the big low information middle thought of him as a pragmatic centrist who would bring the country together after 8 years of partisan nastiness under Bush. And the biggest reason they thought that was because the center right media, of which McArdle is a cadet member, went all "his pant creases are perfect" and "he is from Harvard" and said he was. Now McArdle has the nerve to bemoan that Obama turned out to be exactly what his worst right wing critics said he was. That is just too fucking bad I guess. She was part of the group that most helped put him in office. It is her legacy as a journalist. If she doesn't like it, too fucking bad.

    1. Tim   11 years ago

      They got what they voted for. Obama is golfing at his Nantucket summer palace and running the war. The generals are carrying his bags.

      1. John   11 years ago

        2008 was such a surreal experience. It was so blatantly obvious to me at least what a hateful clown this idiot was and so many people who should have known better were convinced he was second coming of George Washington. It really was a bout of national collective insanity.

        1. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

          Not that McCain was any great shakes, but I remember getting a sick feeling in my stomach when Obama was elected.

          My mom comes from Chicago - so I know the area and culture pretty well. I also knew not to trust any pol from there.

          Things have actually turned out even worse than I expected. And I'm still surprised Obama won in 2012 - but that's just the symptom of where the U.S. is at.

          1. Lord Humungus   11 years ago

            * or any politician from anywhere (!)

          2. John   11 years ago

            McCain was terrible. But he would have been held in check by the Dem Congress. Obama wouldn't have been as big of a disaster if the Republicans had taken Congress or at least held a big minority in the Senate. Turning him lose with Pelosi and Reid as the adult supervision was a catastrophe.

          3. John   11 years ago

            Also, the media would have done its job and actually reported on a McCain administration. Forget ideology, how can you have a Democratic President when doing so means the media will cover up any crime or corruption no matter how big?

          4. Raven Nation   11 years ago

            My mom comes from Chicago - so I know the area and culture pretty well

            That was probably what made the whole thing worse: people thought that someone who came through Chicago, and was at least peripheral to its machine politics, would be a different kind of politician.

            It was like the immaculation of Barack Obama: born and raised in an evil and sinful world but emerging pure as light.

          5. robc   11 years ago

            McCain had one last ditch chance to win ... he could have opposed TARP.

            Im not sure it would have been enough, because I dont think the TP types would have believed him, but that was his last chance.

            1. John   11 years ago

              He was ahead in the polls until he stopped campaigning and ran to Washington to help pass TARP. I think that was the point people said "fuck it, something has to change" and let the retarded kid have a shot.

              1. Bo Cara Esq.   11 years ago

                McCain was ahead in the polls?

                1. VG Zaytsev   11 years ago

                  Yes he was from the convention to the point where the stock market crashed and he said the economy is fundamentally sound he began sinking at that point and went into free fall when he 'suspended' his campaign and rushed back to DC to be a prop in the passage of TARP.

                  I think that he could have won had he actively campaigned against it. His go along to get along shtick was exactly the wrong tack at that point in time.

        2. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

          And some of us in the Chicago area knew who he was since he was State Senator "Present" and having his knob slobbed by the Chicago Sun-Times as TEH MESSIAH!!!!!

    2. creech   11 years ago

      I doubt McArdle herself changed more than a dozen votes in Obama's favor. So which center-right journalist really had the influence to put Obama over the top?

      1. John   11 years ago

        I said she was a cadet member. Her contribution was small but only because no one reads her not because she wouldn't have done more if she could have.

    3. Sevo   11 years ago

      ..."that biggest reason Obama became President is that the big low information middle thought of him as a pragmatic centrist who would bring the country together after 8 years of partisan nastiness under Bush."...

      Man, I really missed my chance at farting through silk: That beachfront property in Nevada should have had a better advertising budget.

      1. John   11 years ago

        I know a ton of people who up until about a year ago were telling me with a straight face that Obama was a centrist and a pragmatist. And these people were brain dead progs. They were otherwise normal people. You have to remember most people have lives and don't pay much attention. If you were not paying much attention and getting your information from the nightly news or the local newspaper, you would have thought Obama was a centrist too.

      2. John   11 years ago

        Were NOT brain dead Progs.

  35. Sevo   11 years ago

    "The United States is sending 140 additional military advisers to northern Iraq."
    From above

    "Nancy Pelosi: No 'boots on the ground' in Iraq"
    http://www.sfgate.com/politics.....ationworld

    So these aren't boots-boots?

    1. John   11 years ago

      They are going to be wearing sandals. So there are no boots on the ground. Got that, you racist tea bagger?

      1. Bobarian   11 years ago

        They're practically running shoes!

    2. Brett L   11 years ago

      Welcome back to 1993!

  36. John   11 years ago

    http://nalert.blogspot.com/201.....party.html

    Josh Marshall suddenly realizes the boots he has been licking all of these years don't taste very good. Nice of you to pull your head out of your ass for once Josh.

  37. SugarFree   11 years ago

    Asshole Gorilla Humps Robin Williams' Corpse for Publicity

    When Buzzfeed and Gawker fight, we all win.

    1. Swiss Servator, spare a franc?   11 years ago

      I hope for a mutually fatal draw.

      1. John   11 years ago

        Or at least a lot of suffering.

        1. JW   11 years ago

          C'mon, hold out for MAD.

  38. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    Now McArdle has the nerve to bemoan that Obama turned out to be exactly what his worst right wing critics said he was.

    The money shot from that McArdle piece was her whining about how partisan divisiveness has kept Washington from doing the really important job of expanding the government and spending more money.
    Jesus on a merry-go-round, what a useless dolt.

    1. John   11 years ago

      And how all of those "crazy Republicans" elected in 2010 just won't go along and expand government and have done so much damage to the Republican Party.

      The only reason the Republican Party still exists is because he found a little religion in 2010 and started saying no to Obama. Useless Dolt is to kind of words for her. What a fucking nitwit.

    2. MegaloMonocle   11 years ago

      The frustrating thing about McArdle is that she knows better, but just can't seem to break out of the DemOp bubble.

      Absolutely nothing she complains about now wasn't pretty apparent in 2008, and glaringly obvious by 2010, but only now, when its Socially Acceptable to turn on Barack, does she do so.

      1. John   11 years ago

        ^^THIS^^

        I am only harder on her because she seems to be smart enough to know better and doesn't because she is so concerned with culture and fitting in.

  39. The Late P Brooks   11 years ago

    When Buzzfeed and Gawker fight, we all win.

    Buzzfeed and Gawker make my brain crash.

  40. See Double You   11 years ago

    Not sure if this was already covered, but why not repost? ISIS bomb instructor accidentally blows up self, 21 other Jihadists.

    1. See Double You   11 years ago

      Oh, should have included a trigger warning: NYT.

    2. Sevo   11 years ago

      'I thought you said to count to 10!'

      1. Sevo   11 years ago

        Too soon?
        Naah...

      2. Tonio   11 years ago

        Ten shall be the number of the counting, and the number of the counting shall be ten...

    3. Matrix   11 years ago

      He had a premature detonation.

    4. John   11 years ago

      This is why suicide bombing never works as a military strategy. Your best bombers never make it past practice.

      1. Matrix   11 years ago

        Well, when you "practice like you play", it happens. Hopefully more of them go with the "practice like you play" mentality.

        Or we can send undercover CIA agents inside pretending to be giving them practice bombs, but actually give them the real thing. We can get these guys to take themselves out!

  41. Bill Dalasio   11 years ago

    after a judge approved Donald Sterling's wife's authority to agree to a sale.

    Is it just me or does this stink of dispensing with any pretense of the rule of law because Donald Sterling is "icky"?

    1. John   11 years ago

      No it is not you. But Sterling should have filed for divorce. Once he did that, the team would have been under the jurisdiction of the California divorce court and couldn't be sold until the divorce was settled, which would have been years.

    2. Sevo   11 years ago

      "Is it just me or does this stink of dispensing with any pretense of the rule of law because Donald Sterling is "icky"?"

      Pretty sure the problem here is whether he's competent. Along with the fact that the NBA prolly wouldn't let the team play if he continued ownership (and it's their clubhouse).
      But it does have a certain stench to it...

      1. John   11 years ago

        The NBA would never close up shop of a franchise, I don't care if Satan owned it.

        1. Bobarian   11 years ago

          Silly John, Satan owns the Redskins.

          1. AlexInCT   11 years ago

            Hey! Quit that...

        2. Bill Dalasio   11 years ago

          But, that's precisely what I think stinks about this whole thing. If they'd simply said, screw it, the Clippers are out of the league as long as Sterling owns them, it would still suck, but at least it would be arguably within their rights.

          But, they can't let that happen. So, what do they do? They get someone else to sell the team, as if he isn't the owner. At no point have I heard anyone credibly argue that he's mentally incompetent (if he were, then a trustee should have been appointed to oversee all his affairs; not just the sale). And it would be very difficult to argue the NBA should have done anything about the matter - if he's crazy/senile, how do you hold him responsible for making crazy statements?

  42. PRX   11 years ago

    OT: anyone seen the TrueCar ad with the Sadbeard lookalike? when he says "now you can be an expert in less than a minute" it seemed like they were mocking Yglesias.

  43. lap83   11 years ago

    better alt text: Stop Bogarting the photo!

  44. cavalier973   11 years ago

    Why the USA doesn't do metric.

    1. John   11 years ago

      I love how the article assumes that "rational" means "multiple of ten". Efforts to decimalize things are called "attempts to rationalize" things. Ah no, there is nothing "irrational" about the English system of measures or the Georgian Calender. "Irrational" actually means something with regard to numbers. And it doesn't "it is hard to do the math" or "I don't like it". It means "any real number that cannot be expressed as a ratio of integers." That means it is a real number that can't be expressed as a fraction. The English system is fractions based and perfectly rational. Just because this retard can't do fractions doesn't mean they are irrational.

      1. Zeb   11 years ago

        Metric is good for technical stuff because it is easy to convert units and it is standardized around the world. But rationality has nothing to do with it. Units are all arbitrary.

        1. John   11 years ago

          Yes. But in day to day use one is no better or worse than the other. I find that for cutting things, a fractional system works better. But that may just be me.

          1. Zeb   11 years ago

            Oh, personally I much prefer the customary units. I can't imagine doing carpentry in cm. Inverse powers of 2 are great.

        2. Bill Dalasio   11 years ago

          Actually, the only reason it's easier to convert units is because we use a base 10 counting system. And the only reason we do that is becuase we (mostly) have ten fingers. Logically, given the recurrence of 3s in the world, we'd be much better off ussing a base 12 system.

          /duodecimalist rant

          1. Zeb   11 years ago

            Yes. There is nothing special about 10. And I am not an advocate of metricization (is that the right word?). Divisors of 12 and powers of 2 are better and promote mental arithmetic skills.

    2. Zeb   11 years ago

      The metric system is a communist conspiracy.

    3. cavalier973   11 years ago

      What's a meter? It was originally set equal to one ten-millionth of the length of a longitudinal meridian between the equator and the North Pole. Go ahead, try to picture that in your mind's eye. Or don't bother, because the definition completely changed in 1960 when the meter instead took its basis from the wavelength of krypton-86 radiation. Far easier to grasp. But hold on! It changed yet again in 1983, and now it's the length of the path traveled by light in a vacuum during a time interval of 1/299,792,458 of a second. Makes you want to stretch your arm out from your sternum and call it a day.

      1. Libertarian   11 years ago

        If they were going to redefine it anyway, why not an even 1/300,000,000 of a second? That's what they teach in the physics department at Whatsamattayou.

        /Bullwinkle

        1. Zeb   11 years ago

          They wanted to redefine it without changing it.

      2. Bobarian   11 years ago

        from a scientific measurements basis, metric is nifty, because:

        1 gram of water is one cubic centimeter, which requires 1 calorie of energy to raise its temperature 1 degree centigrade.

        That has nothing to do with 'rational' vice irrational. The speed of light over a distance allows for a time component, but that's not near as nifty.

    4. cavalier973   11 years ago

      Just the other day, Matthew Yglesias of Vox argued that we should have a single, global time zone...

      Set it for Zulu time. "The meeting's at 0600Z."

      1. Zeb   11 years ago

        We already do, it's called UT.

      2. John   11 years ago

        Greenwich mean time or Zulu, is effectively a single global time zone. Things like submarines or military operations that take place over multiple time zones operate under it.

        Yglesias, since he is profoundly retarded and tries to make up for it by being ignorant, has no idea that Zulu time exists. It is just that people don't follow it because there is generally no reason to.

        1. Zeb   11 years ago

          Unless he is also suggesting that people all work at the same time around the world (which is also a stupid idea), what is the point?

  45. cavalier973   11 years ago

    The family of a 15-year-old Utah cheerleader who died Sunday after she was accidentally run over as she sunbathed in her driveway was comforted Monday by neighbors who brought them dinner in a show of support.

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