Censorship

Forget a Wikipedia Page? Good Luck with That, Europe.

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That one missing puzzle piece was there just a minute ago.
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The European Union's so-called "Right to be Forgotten" Internet censorship program continues apace, resulting in tens of thousands of demands for Google to stop linking to certain pages in search results. Google has agreed to remove the links in about half the cases.

As a reminder: This system doesn't actually remove any pages themselves. All the news stories or blog posts or whatever has ticked people off are still up there on the Internet. They just won't show up for searches in Google's European search engine. That's why this one takedown request highlighted by The Guardian is particularly dumb. Somebody has demanded that Google remove a link to a Wikipedia page. The Wikipedia page itself isn't going anywhere. It's just that a Google search won't show the page as a result. Given the popularity of Wikipedia itself, it's a type of censorship that is not only petty and self-serving, but will also probably accomplish little.

Wikipedia cofounder Jimmy Wales is nevertheless incensed, as well he should be:

"In the case of truthful, non-defamatory information obtained legally, I think there is no possibility of any defensible 'right' to censor what other people are saying," Wales has said. "You do not have a right to use the law to prevent Wikipedia editors from writing truthful information, nor do you have a right to use the law to prevent Google from publishing truthful information. Wikipedia can and should work hard to do a good job, just as Google can and should work hard to do a good job."

On Thursday, Google revealed that France, with 17,500 requests, had made more demands for changes to search results than any other European nation. Germany had made 16,500 requests, and 12,000 requests originated in the UK. Some 8,000 requests came from Spain, 7,500 from Italy, and 5,500 from the Netherlands.

By 18 July, Google had received 91,000 takedown requests in total, relating to 300,000 pages. Its privacy counsel, Peter Fleischer, revealed it had refused around 32% of them, asked for more information on 15%, and removed 53%.

None of the coverage indicates which page is being affected by the takedown. The Guardian ends with a reminder that these takedown requests don't have to have any relationship with the accuracy of the content, just that the "material was deemed to be out of date, no longer relevant or excessive," according to whatever guidelines the government and tech companies put in place, which of course, probably bear little resemblance to what the public at large may consider "no longer relevant."

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  1. I want Reason to remove all of my posts so people won’t realize that I’m the one in the panel van.

  2. Many of the top PR firms are now refusing to do ads that question global warming. Anyone who does business with these firms should change to one of their reasonable competitors.

    1. Ah, but in Europe they can just make people forget that they did such ads.

      1. I note that Europe is doing nothing to force individuals to forget what they’ve read, seen, heard. Where’s that vaunted right to be forgotten now, Europe?

      2. Ah, but in Europe they can just make people forget that they did such ads.

        If only they could make people forget bad forecasts, predictions, models, records, they wouldn’t have to. In about 100 yrs. children will die because the entirety of human history will have been digitized and then legally forgotten.

        The biosphere will remain intact though.

  3. Whatever bad you can say about the Soviet Union, you have to acknowledge that Stalin was in the vanguard of this right to be forgotten.

  4. It’ll be fun watching to see if the knee-jerk anti-libertarian contingent of Wikipedia decides they actually do want to support this. I’m thinking specifically of the ones that were incensed about the idea of accepting Bitcoin donations (about 6 months ago, they just started now).

    1. Donate your bitcoin to archive.org instead, the wayback machine is the antithesis of the “right to be forgotten”.

      1. Putting up a robots.txt will IIRC nuke your entire Wayback Machine history, effective the next time your site is sacnned. Some sites have needless to say done this to hide their dirty laundry (typically ineffectively, though).

        Whether they actually remove it from their servers or simply make it inaccessible to the public, I do not know.

        1. sacnned = scanned

  5. If someone had a problem with some wikipedia content, i’d think the appropriate action is not with ‘google’ , than it would be with simply *updating the entry one’s self*, or taking up the issue directly with Wikipedia.

    1. It’s only fun if you’re forcing someone else to do it.

    2. What’s up with Europe, anyway? They’re going to regulate the Internet right out of existence. At least for people living there. And not counting people who ignore all of these rules and find ways around the restrictions.

  6. Who do I sue to get the EU to forget about me?

    Even better who do I sue to get the US government to forget about me?

  7. If I go to Europe and d a google search for “Right to be Forgotten” links, will Google implode, and the internet just stop?

    Somebody there should try it, just to see. The NSA is busy looking at me, so, hurry, go ahead!

    1. and dO a google…

  8. “The European Union’s so-called “Right to be Forgotten” Internet censorship program continues apace, resulting in tens of thousands of demands for Google to stop linking to certain pages in search results.”

    How much of this is because Google is an American company?

    1. That’s a good question. Are they going after Microsoft Bing too? Are there any Europe based search engines worth mentioning?

      1. If there are any local, European search engines, are they being held to the same standard?

      2. If the only way to find you is using Bing, you have already been forgotten.

  9. “”In the case of truthful, non-defamatory information obtained legally, I think there is no possibility of any defensible ‘right’ to censor what other people are saying,”

    What’s his stance on copyright?

  10. James Brady had passed away

    http://abcnews.go.com/Politics…..d=24835830

    1. Who? 🙂

    2. May the grabber bastard be forgotten, except as an example of what not to do.

  11. “How Not to be Seen” was a European production, come to think of it.

  12. Google has agreed to remove the links in about half the cases.

    So much for “don’t be evil”

  13. Check out the comments at http://hiddenfromgoogle.com/
    The urge to censor is alive and well. Many of the comments are pro-censorship. Idiots.

  14. The EC isn’t pursuing “censorship” so much as “controlling what people can say and publish in the hopes of controlling public information, personal thoughts, and private opinions.”

  15. GOOGLE TRANSLATION
    Please tell Jimmy Wales to read my 2 comments.
    The 1st to protest against censorship AGAINST Wikipedia (and Google). And 2 against censorship OF Wikipedia.
    1 You want to know why the French are censoring?
    The same reason why France is the guard dog of slavery in Africa. Even before the USA.
    The same reason why France refuses to align with the Council of Europe to abolish child abuse called teaching methods.
    Yet Article 222-13 of the penal code exists. An article almost never applied in France and punishes 3 years in prison violence against minors under 15 years. Punishing of 5 years in prison perpetrators of violence when they are parents or caregivers beaten.
    I was sued for libel in 2008 by a nursery school director agresseuse children (she boasted to type a 4 year old children without feeling guilty) Legal proceedings against me and against the blogger witnessed the assault his assistant against a child …. 3 years …
    My answer was “Brute supports the Brute” ..
    An anti-violence song. The proceedings were stopped.
    And for 6 years the song has remained online.

  16. 1 part B
    In September, 2012, the witness and I were ordered to pay 31,000 euros to a secret agent of the UN. He who had supervised election rigging against the socialist president of Ivory Coast Laurent Gbagbo.
    Calling it “fascist criminal” was “excessive about” and therefore ipso facto a violation of privacy.
    But Google resisted and condemned the article is still online.
    That’s what the three French bourgeoisie charge to Google!
    Fascism is on the way in France.
    The teacher witnessing violence was forced to apologize for his September 2013 testimony to the violence of January 2008.
    She refused, was harassed for 9 months. She has been excluded from the National Education for two years.
    The excuse? A false accusation of distributing the leaflet parents in his favor …..

    To sum it all: know that M?diapart lawyer for the same lawyer as the Pinochet C?te d’Ivoire: Mignard. A socialist France?fric.
    And the result, I am now TOTALLY censored on the first media (allegedly) rebel France.
    It is important not to tell the WHOLE truth about what is really happening in Africa.
    For example, the 20 million paid by Holland in the head cutters hands of Mali!

  17. SVP, dites ? Jimmy Wales de lire mes 2 commentaires.
    Le 1? pour protester contre la censure CONTRE Wikip?dia (et Google). Et le 2? contre la censure DE Wikip?dia.
    1? Vous voulez savoir la raison pour laquelle les Fran?ais censurent ?
    La m?me raison pour laquelle la France est le chien de garde esclavagiste de l’Afrique. Avant m?me les USA.
    La m?me raison pour laquelle la France refuse de s’aligner sur le Conseil de l’Europe pour abolir les agressions d’enfants appel?es m?thodes p?dagogiques.
    Et pourtant l’article 222-13 du code p?nal existe. Un article presque jamais appliqu? en France et qui punit de 3 ans de prison les violences contre les mineurs de moins de 15 ans. Qui punit de 5 ans de prison les coupables de violences quand ils sont les parents ou les responsables des enfants battus.
    J’ai ?t? poursuivi en diffamation en 2008 par une directrice d’?cole maternelle agresseuse d’enfants (elle se vantait de taper un enfants de 4 ans sans se sentir coupable) Des poursuites contre moi blogueur et contre la t?moin de l’agression de son adjointe contre un enfants de …. 3 ans…
    Ma r?ponse fut “La Brute soutient la Brute”..
    Une chanson anti-violences. Les poursuites furent stopp?es.
    Et, depuis 6 ans la chanson est rest?e en ligne.

  18. French 1 part B
    C’est en septembre 2012, que la t?moin et moi furent condamn?s ? payer 31000 euros ? un barbouze de l’ONU. Celui qui avait supervis les trucages ?lectoraux contre le pr?sident socialiste de C?te d’Ivoire Laurent Gbagbo.
    L’appeler “‘criminel fasciste” ?tait un “propos excessif” et donc ipso facto une atteinte ? la vie priv?e.
    Mais Google r?sista et l’article condamn? est toujours en ligne.
    C’est cela que les trois bourgeoisies fran?aises font payer ? Google !
    Le fascisme est en route en France.
    L’enseignante t?moin de violences a ?t? contrainte de s’excuser en septembre 2013 pour son t?moignage des violences de janvier 2008.
    Elle refusa, fut l’objet d’un harc?lement pendant 9 mois. Elle vient d’?tre exclue de l’Education Nationale pour deux ans.
    Le pr?texte ? Une accusation mensong?re d’avoir distribu? le tract des parents en sa faveur…..

    Pour r?sumer le tout : sachez que M?diapart a pour avocat le m?me avocat que le Pinochet de la C?te d’Ivoire : Mignard. Un socialiste France?fric.
    Et le r?sultat : je suis maintenant TOTALEMENT censur? sur le premier m?dia (pr?tendument) rebelle de France.
    Il ne faut surtout pas dire TOUTE la v?rit? sur ce qui se passe r?ellement en Afrique.
    Par exemple, les 20 millions d’euros vers?s par Hollande au chef des coupeurs de mains du Mali !

  19. ENGLISH 2 part A
    2 ?
    IF YOU READ ONLY BRIEFLY, then click this link
    Tuesday, July 8, 2014
    Twin Paradox on Wikipedia: I just write the real data of Paul Langevin In Their “specific example” (Bologna 1911 The relativistic Swindlers hardly ever give the real numbers)
    http://revolisationactu.blogsp…..write.html
    2 A
    Please Jimmy Wales, trying to understand the relativity of Einstein.
    Then you will understand how scandalously the secret partisans of positivist philosophy, public supporters of the relativity of Einstein are destroying credibility of Wikipedia in physical sciences.
    It’s not because administrators encyclopedias of the 17th century would have the support of all the priests and professors, provided the geocentric thesis would be the only valid one.
    The refusal to consider the absolute speeds as never contradicted thesis goes further now.
    These are the quotes from the founders themselves reltivit? of which are called “homework” by anonymous relativistic fascists.
    They delete REAL DATA FROM THE TEXT OF REAL PAUL LANGEVIN

  20. EN 2 part B
    +++
    http://revolisationactu.blogsp…..-dvdm.html
    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

    Twin Paradox on Wikipedia: DVDM, an anonymous relativist fascist Threatens me when I try to write the REAL DATA of Langevin’s text
    by Yanick Toutain
    http://revolisationactu.blogsp…..ensor.html
    Wednesday, July 9, 2014

    Twin paradox: On Wikipedia, a censor Paradoctor starts a war by deleting twice the digital data from the real Langevin’s text (The War Against the ignorance and materialism Needs the obscurantism)

    “You May Be Blocked from editing
    sans further Top warning the next time
    you make personal attacks on people –other,
    As You Talk About did at: Twin paradox.

    How happy
    not one fellow editors. – DVDM (talk) 6:08 p.m., 9 July 2014 (UTC) ”
    Anonymous Threatens DVDM ME!
    After deletion of the real numbers
    of Paul Langevin

  21. Fran?ais 2 part A
    2?
    SI VOUS LISEZ SEULEMENT QUELQUES LIGNES, alors, cliquez sur ce lien
    MARDI 8 JUILLET 2014
    Twin Paradox on Wikipedia: I just write the real data of Paul Langevin in their “specific example” (Bologna 1911 The relativistic swindlers hardly ever give the real numbers)
    http://revolisationactu.blogsp…..write.html
    ++++++++++++
    SVP Jimmy Wales, tentez de comprendre la relativit? de Einstein.
    Ensuite vous comprendrez de quelle fa?on scandaleuse les partisans secrets de la philosophie positiviste, les partisans publics de la relativit? de Einstein sont en train de d?truire toute cr?dibilit? de Wikip?dia en mati?re de sciences physiques.
    Ce n’est pas parce que les administrateurs des encyclop?dies du 17? si?cle auraient le soutien de tous les cur?s et professeurs que, pour autant, la th?se g?ocentrique serait la seule valable.
    Le refus de prendre en consid?ration les vitesses absolues en tant que th?se jamais contredite va maintenant plus loin encore.
    Ce sont les citations des fondateurs eux-m?mes de la reltivit? qui sont appel?es “travail personnel” par des fascistes relativistes anonymes.
    They delete REAL DATA FROM THE REAL TEXT OF PAUL LANGEVIN
    +++

  22. French 2? part B
    http://revolisationactu.blogsp…..-dvdm.html
    MERCREDI 9 JUILLET 2014

    Twin Paradox on Wikipedia : DVdm, an anonymous relativist fascist threatens me when I try to write the REAL DATA of Langevin’s text
    by Yanick Toutain
    http://revolisationactu.blogsp…..ensor.html
    MERCREDI 9 JUILLET 2014

    Twin paradox: On Wikipedia, a censor Paradoctor starts a war by deleting twice the real digital data from the Langevin’s text (The war against materialism needs the ignorance and the obscurantism)

    “You may be blocked from editing
    without further warning the next time
    you make personal attacks on other people,
    as you did at Talk:Twin paradox.

    Comment on content,
    not on fellow editors. – DVdm (talk) 18:08, 9 July 2014 (UTC)”
    Anonymous DVdm THREATENS ME !
    After deletion of the real numbers
    of Paul Langevin

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