Hipster Nazis Find Their Own Use for a Guy Fawkes Mask
The vicious cabaret
Rolling Stone has a long feature on Germany's new generation of hipster Nazis: national socialists who mix their message of state-enforced racial purity with a Park Slope style and a more relaxed attitude toward pop culture. One of the story's stars, a young "nationalist" named Patrick Schroeder, hosts a neo-Nazi Web show with a sidekick who calls himself Vendetta:

Yeah. That's a Guy Fawkes mask.

Until Alan Moore and David Lloyd made the mask a part of their V for Vendetta comics in the '80s, the only political connotations of a Guy Fawkes disguise involved the historical Fawkes' plot to blow up Parliament and bring Catholic rule back to England. But since the V movie hit theaters in 2006, the masks have been associated with a more modern sort of political protest—usually of a left-wing or libertarian nature, though as I noted last month they've started turning up in other contexts too. The Rolling Stone article notes that Schroeder's hipsters were preceded by the rise of the Autonomous Nationalists, a "third position"–style tendency that tries to mix elements of leftist and even anarchist tactics, rhetoric, and style with their Nazism—putting the socialism back into national socialism, so to speak. The V imagery may reflect their influence.
But V for Vendetta is an explicitly, angrily anti-fascist story. That's true of the overtly anarchist comic, and it's true of the less radical but still anti-authoritarian film. For a neo-Nazi not just to wear a V mask but to call himself "Vendetta"…well, if you ever doubted that a symbol could escape the context that gave it its resonance and take on a new meaning, doubt no more.
In other news, there's a right wing of Anonymous now too.
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Park Slope style? You mean they push strollers everywhere?
Yes. But they are very well built and over engineered strollers and they push them ironically.
While wearing watches with wide bands!
Park Slope is an elephant graveyard of middle-aged lefty yuppies.
If it had a 'style', it would be something like "Listening to NPR while wearing comfortable shoes and eating a free-range egg-white omelet"
Maybe these Nazis are real big fans of Ani DiFrano and Belle & Sebastian.
50 year old lesbians complaining how the Barclays center is killing parking in the 'Hood.
Park-Slope Style.
"If you ever doubted that a symbol could escape the context that gave it its resonance and take on a new meaning, doubt no more."
Does anyone honestly believe this isn't the case? Especially your article includes a swastika?
Well, considering that Guy Fawkes was trying to blow up Parliament as well as King James, to install a Catholic monarch to rule a non-Catholic nation, one might find it a little "context escape" in the mere fact of the "Fawkes Mask" being used by ... anarchists.
The plasticity of dissidence is near infinite. Consider the movie The Live; it has been in favor across the political spectrum by those who feel on the outs. I look at the movie's message as, "Seek out those different from you & destroy them." However, everybody but me seems to see it differently, even though those who identify with the main characters disagree on everything in the real world, and would each have each other up against the wall 1st come the revolution.
And yeah, it's funny how a sun sign, "good luck", etc. has come so far to symbolize Nazis that these days people who use it in its earlier meanings are almost sure to be widely misunderstood.
You know who else had a message of state-enforced racial purity?
Slappy the LoneMurikanWacko?
grr, I was too slow
Emperor Hirohito?
Margaret Sanger?
Thread winner.
The Virgiana General Assembly?
You know who else tried to convince young people that racial purity was hip?
No, but I do know who tries to make me feel ashamed of my racial purity.
Right? Just when I thought I could play KMFDM and Rammstein out loud again.
I wouldn't pretend to know! Beside, I'm really not into Asian chicks, especially ones with rope and a pair of marbles between their legs.
Fucking squirrels. This was in response to something below.
I am 100% pure human.
As far as I know.
And I won't be ashamed of it, no matter what you try and tell me with your manipulator appendages.
many (many, many...) years ago I heard about a white power record label that would produced free CDs to be given free to school kids.
Not sure how many of that age group are into Oi music.
The label was Panzerfaust Records. It was a sampler of various bands on the label. It was pretty successful for them too. Funny aside: Panzerfaust went belly up when it was discovered that the head of the company was a mixed race Mexican and had spent some vacation time in Bangkok pursuing Thai hookers! You can imagine that did not go down very well.
Pursuing? Don't they queue up for you at all the Western hotels?
I wouldn't pretend to know! Beside, I'm really not into Asian chicks, especially ones with rope and a pair of marbles between their legs.
Marcus Garvey?
National Socialism has nothing to do with actual socialism. They are just pretty words disguising far-right, conservative machinations to restore the Junker or equivalent ruling class.
And since when is a Junker ruling class not consistent with socialism?
I believe he is being sarcastic.
- We demand that the State make it its duty to provide opportunities of employment first of all for its own Citizens. If it is not possible to maintain the entire population of the State, then foreign nationals (non-Citizens) are to be expelled from the Reich.
- All German Citizens must have equal rights and duties.
-It must be the first duty of every Citizen to carry out intellectual or physical work. Individual activity must not be harmful to the public interest and must be pursued within the framework of the community and for the general good.
We therefore demand:
-The abolition of all income obtained without labor or effort."
Anyone who claims that the Nazis didn't explicitly support socialist policies never read their platform.
It can never be posted enough:
http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/.....quote_d6b3
still right wing.
Priceless.
Right wing does not mean "capitalism", you idiot.
Right-wing politics are political positions or activities that view some forms of social hierarchy or social inequality as either inevitable, natural, normal, or desirable,
Wikipedia
Priceless.
Literally everyone outside of a Robespierran egalitarian would fall under that classification, you idiot.
So everyone's right-wing!
Well, I guess that does defuse the pointless and confusing left/right dichotomy, at least.
Right wing = anything the left wing does not like.
It's almost as though they want every possible point of the political spectrum to be occupied by socialists so that non-socialists can't be counted at all.
Unless they consider ancaps centrists. I'd go for that.
Haw! Never change, Palin.
And for that matter, socialism has precious little to do with being social.
a "third position"?style tendency that tries to mix elements of leftist and even anarchist tactics, rhetoric, and style with their Nazism
Someone really needs to go on a Hetzjagd auf Nazis, guys.
Argentina is a popular destination...
As head of the JN, Knape's job is to make the NPD, and its extreme-right politics, appealing to young people (one of his biggest goals, he explains, is to "preserve German culture") and he's a good salesman ? 5'8", fit and dressed in a grey T-shirt and Converse-style sneakers, he wouldn't look out of place on an American college campus. He first entered the scene when he was 13, in Magdeburg, because his brother was also "right-wing oriented" and he "started to ask himself lots of questions."
Ah, the "culture", the "race", purity...... Pour that propaganda on.
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Booooosh?!
Anything printed or published by the International Socialists at Rolling Stone can be dismissed out-of-hand as false propaganda.
(I have a better one)
You know who else was into racial purity before it went mainstream?
The AKC?
USA Cycling?
Sorry, wrong kind of race.
In their latest 2013 report, the Bundesverfassungschutz concluded that there are approximately 22,000 members of the extreme right in Germany, including 9,600 who are "willing to engage in violence." According to official statistics,they committed 473 violent crimes against foreigners last year ? a shocking 20 percent rise over the previous year.
Damn. They have Sovereign Citizens too.
Booooosh?!
22,000 is nowhere near 8%.
8% sovereign citizens? Or just 8% sovereign?
Is that down 3%?
How about all the violence perpetrated by the regime's cops, SWAT, FBI, ATF et al?
You know who else was a National Socialist?
We have a national flag, we have a national bird, and we have national parks. Why can't we have a national socialist too?
Rudolph Hess?
What the fuck do you guys expect? The German authorities make it illegal or impossible for these guys to participate in any fashion in the political discourse of the country. Its like shoveling toothpaste into a tube with a large hole in one end and a pinhole in the other: shovel enough in and eventually its going to shoot out of the pinhole. My band released several albums in Germany over the last decade and a half and several times I had to re-write lyrics to songs because the lawyers told the record label it wouldn't get past the German censors. Funny thing is, it was almost never kicked back because of any racial issue it was all about the violence! HUH???
Well, the original Nazis were pretty damned fashion conscious, too. Their uniforms were designed by Hugo Boss, so this makes sense.
In other news, there's a right wing of Anonymous now too.
Could someone decode the right-wingness of Anonymous based on the linked post.
I see a partial selfie with what looks like a guy in a nazi tee-shirt with some quoted text about possible fake hashtag campaigns. Then I see something about anonymous eschewing identity, then a bunch of response tweets from 6yr olds telling the 5 yr olds to go home.
Reason #1,989 lots of Wessis are fed up with the Ossis - bringing over all the neo-Nazi crap.
Hipster Nazis!
From the comments
="'it's heilarious, anne frankly I don't give a damn.?""
I would watch that!
"putting the socialism back into national socialism, so to speak."
The socialism never left National Socialism. Nazis were and always have been socialists.
Yes. You really can't satirize them anymore.
I've been casually bringing up the fact that the Nazi's were socialists and placed themselves somewhere in between the 'democratic' variety and the 'international' variety. It isn't being received well.
The New Economics revolution circa WW2 held that National Socialism was the last gasp of capitalism (because nothing indicates the presence of unfettered markets and capitalism like the phrase "national socialism") in the face of the superior value of central scientific economic planning. Mises and Hayek were viewed as absolute cranks and reactionaries when they raised arguments about the nature of the price system as information and the calculation problem.
As though we need to be reminded that the leaders and economic visionaries of the early 20th century were absolutely insane even compared to what we have today.