At CPAC Conservatives Criticize Obama's Foreign Policy, Question Drug Policy


Today I attended the first day of the Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC), the annual gathering of conservative politicians, activists, and students.
This year, like last year, CPAC is being held at the Gaylord National Resort, which is located south of Washington, D.C. in National Harbor, Maryland.
In the morning Sen. Ted Cruz (R-Texas) gave a speech in which he called for an audit of the Federal Reserve, the abolition of the IRS, and for "every single word of Obamacare" to be repealed. Cruz also made clear that he is not a fan of President Obama's foreign policy, saying that under Obama "the people of Ukraine have seen Russian tanks move into their sovereign land."
Other CPAC speakers also criticized the U.S. response to the situation in Ukraine. Former United Nations Ambassador John Bolton said:
Today, can you just imagine Ronald Reagan dealing with Vladimir Putin? … [In Ukraine], Vladimir Putin has a strategy and Obama has nothing. Putin has a growing defense budget and ours is shrinking.
Sen. Marco Rubio (R-Fla.) said:
In Europe, Vladimir Putin is trying to reconstitute the power and the influence of the former Soviet Union. I say this to you because of the number of young people that are here today. I want you to consider what this will look like in 10 years … if you inherit a world where Russia continues to hold its neighbors hostage, not just because of its military capabilities, but also because of dependency on Russian oil and gas.
One non-American conservative also criticized Obama's foreign policy. Daniel Hannan, a British Conservative who represents South East England in the European Parliament, was at CPAC in his capacity as secretary general of the Alliance of European Conservatives and Reformists. Given Cruz's earlier brief comment on the Obama administration's position over the ongoing crisis in Ukraine, I asked Hannan what he thought about the state America's perception around the world. Hannan said,
It's definitely the case that under this presidency U.S. prestige has waned, and in some parts of the world prestige is a hard commodity, it matters.
Hannan went on to say,
I do think that you could construct the argument that there has never been a worse time to be a traditional friend of the U.S.
Obama's relationship with the U.K. has been criticized before, with his removal of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office soon after he took office and his position on the Falkland Islands being cited as indications that the so-called "special relationship" may not be faring well under the current administration.

CPAC attracts many of the usual conservative suspects. The Heritage Foundation, the National Rifle Association, as well as some conservative publications were all represented. Refreshingly, there were also groups represented in the CPAC Hub that are either explicitly libertarian or have libertarian sympathies such as Students For Liberty, Families Against Mandatory Minimums, Young Americans For Liberty, and the Cato Institute.
What was particularly reassuring was an event on the legalization of marijuana in Colorado. Mary Katherine Ham, editor-at-large of HotAir.com (who had this exchange with Bill O'Reilly last month on drug policy) joined Chris Beach, executive producer of Bill Bennett's "Morning in America" show, for a discussion on marijuana legalization moderated by Colorado State Rep. Janak Joshi (R-Colorado Springs). Beach, who was arguing against legalization, argued that illegal drug use is going down thanks to the war on drugs and that while alcohol is harmful adding another new drug to a legal market would be a bad idea.
Thankfully, almost every single person in the audience who asked a question at the event was skeptical that current U.S. drug policy is working. One man said that his children have easy access to marijuana despite the vast amounts of money that has been spent on drug policy. Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.), who has criticized U.S. drug policy, will be speaking at CPAC tomorrow.
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And yet somehow they still have time to let Trump spout inane bullshit.
Trump is to Republicans as Tony is to H&R.
It drives media interest in the event, and I don't really think he's the most terrible person in the world.
He's an idiot and it signals to independents that Team Stupid has a deep bench.
No idiot becomes a billionaire unless his daddy bequeaths him the money. Trump is an intelligent man preying on idiots that unconditionally vote for Team Stupid.
Gaylord National Resort
*snerk*
Obama's relationship with the U.K. has been criticized before, with his removal of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office soon after he took office and his position on the Falkland Islands being cited as indications that the so-called "special relationship" may not be faring well under the current administration.
More wingnut myth above. They can't stop the lying in their echo chamber.
http://www.whitehouse.gov/blog.....-churchill
"They can't stop the lying in their echo chamber."
Hey, Mr 8%! Is this about "You can keep your policy...?"
"If you like your mental impairment, you can keep it."
Do you care to highlight the part of Feeney's statement that is facutally inaccurate (or in the parlance of vile TEAM BLUE partisans like yourself, "WINGNUT MYTH!1!!!!")?
Because what I see in your link is precisely what Feeney wrote:
Feeney: "with his removal of a bust of Winston Churchill from the Oval Office soon after he took office"
Whitehouse.gov: "the Churchill bust was relocated" and "replaced the Oval Office fixture with a bust of one of his American heroes"
Sudden, your background check is complete, and you are on the brunch list.
P.S. I think I went to high school somebody you work with.
Wow, I got a full-on background check? I feel special now. My NSA superiors will be happy to learn that I've been accepted into the groupREDACTED
P.S. I think I went to high school somebody you work with.
There are a few people in my company that I don't often interact with, outside of occassional odd projects since they are different divisions and work remotely for the most part. So assuming you discovered my particular company, I may not know the particular person in question. But we'll figure all that out at the brunch.
Whoops, I meant to say "used to work with".
I don't like naming names because these comments are here for eternity (and I have done enough damage today by accidentally implying that I like 5 year olds), but I will say that he's shorter than Rand Paul.
Agreed on refraining from naming names in the comments.
I have worked with many Koreans in my day, so that is entirely possible. And perhaps not likely to narrow the field down.
A white dude from Manhattan Beach. He likes your party mullet,
Impressive research. Scarily impressive. The last libertarian to know this much about me what Edward Snowden.
I know exactly of whom you speak.
Have you had the pleasure of meeting his younger sister?
I have not. Didn't even know he has one.
Shame. She's married now, though.
what was
my brain is not altogether in it today (yet still active enough to outwit Tulpuppet).
You're telling them about the background checks? Nobody will trust us with their information now.
Do you want shrike showing up for brunch? Imagine how awful he is in person.
Sudden, the bust was not removed.
This is 100% false. The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room.
Much less due to some fiction about Obama's antipathy toward the British or "the loss of that special relationship". That implication is false.
A second temporary bust that was loaned to the Bush WH was returned immediately as per custom with all the other artifacts loaned to Bush.
The bust was removed from the Oval Office and relocated to the Residence.
Feeney didn't say the bust was removed from the White House. He said it was removed from the Oval Office. The link you provided corroborates exactly what Feeney stated:
and I quote directly from whitehouse.gov link provided
the Churchill bust was relocated
and again
laced the Oval Office fixture with a bust of one of his American heroes
But the permanent Churchill bust remained in its place.
The real point the wingnuts are trying to make is that Obama was spitting on the British. This is entirely FALSE.
It was part of that lunatic D'Nish DeSuessa's (sp) absurd conspiracy theory of Obama as an "anti-Colonial" - like there is anything wrong with that.
Palin's Buttplug|3.6.14 @ 8:04PM|#
"But the permanent Churchill bust remained in its place."
Oh, I see! You didn't mean what you posted, you meant, uh, something else that has some truthiness to it!
Way to go, Mr. 8%!
Dolly Parton?
If you're going to believe in a lie, why not choose one that means something? Why do these idiots care about such things?
I don't know why do idiots like you and 8% believe in total asinine bullshit?
Nothing I have ever cared about in my life is remotely as trivial as a fucking Churchill bust in someone else's house, even if it weren't a total lie.
Tony|3.6.14 @ 9:44PM|#
"Nothing I have ever cared about in my life is remotely as trivial as a fucking Churchill bust in someone else's house, even if it weren't a total lie."
Well, tell that to your slimy compatriot; he seems incensed with the matter.
Tony|3.6.14 @ 8:59PM|#
"If you're going to believe in a lie, why not choose one that means something?"
You mean like "You can keep your policy..."
Perhaps a little less trivial, but no less misleading rightwing bullshit.
Tony|3.6.14 @ 9:46PM|#
"Perhaps a little less trivial, but no less misleading rightwing bullshit."
I notice, fuckwit, you can't seem to post without infantile swearing.
And I also notice that you make claims and NEVER have evidence for them.
Wouldn't you say that qualifies you as a slimy, lying turd?
I would still like for you to expound more on the anecdote about how you and your mommy, hand in hand, converted to socialism one day. It sounds very touching and I would like to read more.
Compare this argument to yours about conflict minerals.
What are your thought?
OK, you lying piece of shit:
"Sudden, the bust was not removed.
This is 100% false. The bust still in the White House. In the Residence. Outside the Treaty Room."
READ THE DAMN STATEMENT! It was "removed" from the Oval Office; you are full of shit.
"Much less due to some fiction about Obama's antipathy toward the British or "the loss of that special relationship". That implication is false."
And we should rely on someone as stupid as you to provide an opposing opinion?
"A second temporary bust that was loaned to the Bush WH was returned immediately as per custom with all the other artifacts loaned to Bush."
Which is nothing more than your standard irrelevancy.
What an asshole!
Hoisted by his own retard! Again!8!888!!!
The fucking LOANER was sent off, you spittle-beflecked juvenile.
Palin's Buttplug|3.6.14 @ 8:08PM|#
"The fucking LOANER was sent off, you spittle-beflecked juvenile."
Oh, got it, dipshit: 'Look over THERE!"
Get screwed with a pitchfork, asshole.
When I want the cold, hard facts, I go to whitehouse.gov!
Isn't it amazing how a "libertarian" who scored so well on the purity test can support an autocrat ten times out of ten? You're an unbelievable cunt, Shrike.
That Rand Paul cutout is obviously not larger than life-sized. He's like what, 5'8?
I don't even think he's that tall. I saw him speak in Thousand Oaks briefly back in June. While I didn't get a chance to stand next to him to guage his height, I stand 5'9" and he appeared from my own view around 5'6"ish.
A good pair of Timberland boots might go a long way on the trail.
He's 5'8 according to an article I found on Google about how short candidates don't fare well running for president.
Hillary Clinton would be slightly taller than him in heels, so that's a photo op nightmare for his staff should it come to that.
I'm sure his campaign consultants will get him some Tom Cruise shoes.
Damn, I want Hillary Clinton to run now.
I has a sad.
Incidentally, I don't blame Feeney for the mistake about the Churchill bust.
If you hang around the right-wing nuthouse for any amount of time you are going to hear some "whoppers" (as Mark Twain called lies).
Incidentally, I do blame you for the mistake in labeling what Feeney wrote a mistake because it is 100% factually correct based on the very link you provided to dispute it.
Cuz Reading is Hard!
-Shrike Barbie
Sudden, you don't understand = the same criteria that progs apply to themselves in statements like, "you can keep your plan" and other things of that nature? THEY ARE NEVER APPLIED TO OTHERS. No, they become semantic nitpickers who will accuse you of lying by creating a variety of NEW interpretations of what you said, and call *those things* lies!
meanwhile, if they say they "created" jobs with their wonderful "throw money in a hole" economic programs? Well, aren't you STUPID for not realizing that also includes *saved* jobs? DUH!
Also, there's not a *SMIDGEN* of corruption in the IRS case. Which is why no one will talk about it under oath. Cause there's *NOTHING TO TALK ABOUT*!? DUH!
"his removal" of a (second) bust is also inaccurate. That loaner bust was packaged up by the Bush moving team.
Palin's Buttplug|3.6.14 @ 8:20PM|#
""his removal" of a (second) bust is also inaccurate. That loaner bust was packaged up by the Bush moving team."
Hint, dipshit: Quit digging.
Didn't you hear? He knows which moving team packed it up! He knows because he just decided to write that!
Oh but he couldn't even get that right.
On January 20, 2009 -- Inauguration Day -- all of the art lent specifically for President Bush's Oval Office was removed by the curator's office, as is common practice at the end of every presidency.
The curator is a non-partisan position and the chief curator currently serving has served in that capacity since 2002.
Tulpuppet wants to make it look like that wrecker and kulak GWB robbed the White House and British people of a beautiful Churchill bust, but rather the WH curator sent it back to the Brits to since the loaner was no longer needed after the finished repairs to the original. But O opted to put the original in the residence instead of the Oval Office position it previously held.
Sudden|3.6.14 @ 8:43PM|#
"Oh but he couldn't even get that right."...
The sumbitch was pointing in so many different directions, he got confused is all.
You're making a lot of sense today.
Palin's Buttplug|3.6.14 @ 7:51PM|#
"Incidentally, I don't blame Feeney for the mistake about the Churchill bust."
Since the only "mistake" was your lie, I'm sure he'll be pleased.
Jesus Christ you really are delusional. Did you read anything written above?
Oh, I forgot. You are the guy who claims Obumbles is an ardent defender of the second amendment.
Name one person who buys your lies, shithead? Can you?
He's only got to fool one person.
His mommy? So he doesn't have to pay rent?
Of course, the truth of what happened to which bust is not the issue. The issue is what Brits believe happened and how it has influenced their opinion.
I was last at CPAC three years ago. My one problem is that the college kids (uniformly Ron Paul fans, and presumably Rand fans now) did nothing to engage anyone else. They descended on Bachmann's free cocktail event, gravitated to anything with a whiff of Ron, and otherwise drank themselves into oblivion. I mean, you can do the latter at the service of the former, but I guess that's something that comes with age.
That said, I found the event to skew toward the Libertarian aspects of conservatism. And it compels Neocon types to answer to, and engage, small-government advocates.
I guess that's why they invited The Hair to speak.
Is that what type he is? I could never tell.
The neocon Lorax, Bolton, was there.
and otherwise drank themselves into oblivion.
I would do that at CPAC too.
A couple of my college friends are there right now. I chose ISFLC over CPAC last year.
In any case, I'm told CPAC has a reputation as a great place to get laid.
I dislike Obama as much as the next guy, but I'm not sure that one can blame Obama for invading Ukraine. His insinuation is that we should somehow be the world police is absurd. Not to mention that once upon a time a certain Team RED president also invaded the sovereignty of a foreign nation without due cause.
..."His insinuation is that we should somehow be the world police is absurd."...
And worn out.
The rest of the world can start paying for their own defense.
If their populations demand communist governments when they don't get their free shit, we'll be happy to send them Tony and shreek.
I disagree. You can't take the bear's water away from him. If you try he will take your head off. It doesn't take a genius to know that.
Obumbles could have strongly advised the Ukrainians to leave the Russian base at Sevastopol alone. Instead, in their anti-russian fervor, they started mouthing off about ending the Russian lease. Obumbles may not have been able to prevent it, but he had a good chance of it. There are all kinds of ways he could have swayed the west-leaning Ukrainians to not provoke Putin. Instead the moron was completely blindsided by this.
Now, to make matters even worse, he is claiming that the Ukrainians should keep the Crimea, including the Russian base. Stupid Stupid Stupid fucker is going to get us into a world of shit. Goddamn fucking idiot that he is.
You know what? Nevermind. I forgot that Maddow explained in vague and nebulous terms exactly how Bush is to blame for everything.
Oh, MLG, I am only suggesting that Jugears could have nipped this in the bud diplomatically, not by playing world cop.
1) That wasn't Cruz's complaint.
2) The idea that Russia was 'provoked' is bullshit. Putin and many Russians have delusions of grandeur and taking Crimea was part of their grand vision of The Russian Empire Reborn.
"2) The idea that Russia was 'provoked' is bullshit. Putin and many Russians have delusions of grandeur and taking Crimea was part of their grand vision of The Russian Empire Reborn."
Could well be, and I think the EUROs had better be prepared, don't you?
There was a Fin posting here a couple of years ago, griping about the US 'cowboys' and bragging his country had near zero military!
Yes, THEY had better take care of things.
In light of the situation in the Crimea I wonder what Obozo would say if Cuba suddenly started making threats about taking back Guantanamo?
"The Russian Empire Reborn"
oooo scaaaary kinda like how we spent the majority of the 20th century trying to liberate europe from Germany, and now the EU is basically run by the Germans.
Is Orwell a fucking prophet or a time traveler?
The more Ted Cruz speaks on issues that could meaningfully distinguish him from other Republicans the more I dislike him.
I don't really know that much about him.
Do tell.
He's criticized Obama for not enforcing Federal marijuana laws in Colorado and Washington
He says he's open for a 'debate' on legalization but it's a pretty cheap shot to accuse Obama of ignoring the law when, as Sullum points out the article, every president has declined to shift resources to busting people for possession despite the law clearly making possession illegal.
He just comes off as very asinine when he tries to score points with Republicans on issues that libertarians shouldn't have a problem with.
Yep, he's garbage for our purposes.
He's not garbage, he's just not nearly as good as Rand.
I may not agree with Cruz on everything, but he is certainly not garbage. He is for smaller government and anti-obamacare by extension.
After Bush, and now 5 years of Obama, I'm pretty sure every libertarian recognizes the need for smaller government. The culture war is irrelevant, and if you remove his social stances (which aren't really that bad from our perspective) he is a good guy to support.
Though, I agree Rand is better, and I would argue Mike Lee is better as well.
Paul Ryan thinks children should do something to improve their lives so that they don't have to get free lunches. Anyone care to translate Randspeak? What should the kids be doing, exactly, so that they may bring brown-sacked lunches?
Tony|3.6.14 @ 9:01PM|#
"Paul Ryan thinks children should do something to improve their lives so that they don't have to get free lunches."
Shitpile, it is no surprise at all that you post lies like that.
Get fucked with a pitchfork.
Weird because I'm totally shocked you'd bother replying with nothing but foul-mouthed childspeak, you ridiculous simpleton.
Tony|3.6.14 @ 9:43PM|#
"Weird because I'm totally shocked you'd bother replying with nothing but foul-mouthed childspeak, you ridiculous simpleton."
Yeah, shitpile constant lies are SOOO adult, aren't they?
Who told you that, you moral dwarf?
What should the kids be doing, exactly, so that they may bring brown-sacked lunches?
ZOMGZZZ!11!!!111eleventy!1!!1!!!!!
TEH RACIST!1!1!!!!
He also threw that old lady in a wheelchair OFF THE SIDE OF A MOTHERFUCKING CLIFF! Right there on TV! See'd it with my own two eyes!
I'll give you a little pass since he is a dreamboat, but could you explain why it's so easy to get you guys to suck Republican cock?
Tony|3.6.14 @ 9:48PM|#
"I'll give you a little pass since he is a dreamboat, but could you explain why it's so easy to get you guys to suck Republican cock?"
We don't shitpile. You suck whatever the government tells you. Republican cock, swine ass, why it's all the same to you!
DO you guys just go off on tony for the fuck of it? I find it hard to believe you actually would defend fucking Paul Ryan of all people.
Paul Ryan is also a douche, albeit not as big of a douche as most Republicrats but hes still just a member of team purple under all his bull shit
The question Tony, is what are _you_ going to do? I know leftists love to assume a halo of virtue by practicing charity with wealth they didn't earn taken at gunpoint.
If I had a dollar for every stale altruistic platitude uttered by leftists who never intend following up their sentiments with their own action, world hunger would be solved in an instant.
From a libertarian perspective there is much to find distasteful about the current GOP strategy on a number of issues, social conservatism/culture war stuff in particular. And one probably doesn't have to walk too far to hear a bible-thumpin' gay bashing war boner from one of the many participants (incidentally the same type of person shreek and Tony desperately want to tag reason commenters as representing).
That being said, there is a pretty sizable libertarian contingent that is growing rapidly at these functions. Whereas the equivalent DNC gathering is much less welcoming to libertarian principles. In fact I would argue the GOP takes libertarianism far more seriously than the DNC simply from the Rand/Ron Paul factor alone.
It's easy to find stuff at these things to find abhorrent, but it's also refreshing to see how much the libertarian section is growing.
..."That being said, there is a pretty sizable libertarian contingent that is growing rapidly at these functions."...
Tman, Elizabeth is pretty involved in the posting on the "14 Scenes" thread. Why not post over there and find out if she's found them?
It's not just that our size is growing (ERECTION JOKE) but our influence too. Look at how Conservative columnists talk about us. It used to always be negative and dismissive but now they either 1) treat us as a real threat (SoCons/Neocons) or 2) defer to us without fully agreeing. Tonal shift.
The GOP is ours for the taking, TEAM ORANGE circlejerkers notwithstanding.
Meh. Not yet but getting there. You're needed now, and anyone is better than the socialists, er, Democrats.
The Republicrats know they can't win without the Libertarians support, the DNC doesnt lose elections because those with ideologically similar ideas of big statist authoritarian government voted libertarian.
It makes the bile rise in my throat to be the ally of the republicans but we will keep cancelling eachother out if we dont try to spread our ideas into the core of the party, perhaps it is needed that we negotiate terms with the Socons and Neocons to come up with a unified platform so we can beat back our communist oppressors
They are still dragging around that neocon John Bolton?
"Beach, who was arguing against legalization, argued that illegal drug use is going down thanks to the war on drugs and that while alcohol is harmful adding another new drug to a legal market would be a bad idea."
Of course, if all drugs were legal, there would be no illegal drug use. They boast about reducing a crime they created.
"What was particularly reassuring was an event on the legalization of marijuana"
Here's a question for you: what is the reason that Rand Paul doesn't introduce legislation to do exactly that? Someone other than a libertarian should be at the forefront for MJ legalization? Even more importantly, why doesn't Reason hold Rand Paul to higher standard for the things they want accomplished in Washington?
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One group that was not welcome at CPAC was American Atheists. At first they were granted permission to have a booth at CPAC (here's the organization's press release): http://news.atheists.org/2014/.....n-at-cpac/
But hours after CPAC began, they were booted: http://www.washingtonpost.com/.....from-cpac/
Apparently, religious right groups, like the Family Research Council, were threatened by their presence.
I would hardly consider the religious right a libertarian cause, with its desire to tear down the separation of religion from government, and to treat non-Christians as well as LGBT individuals like second-class citizens.
I've never been a Dem or Rep.. always been undeclared. I used to vote for the Dem or Rep that best represented my values, mainly because I bought into the lie that 'you have to vote D or R!'. I mostly did R.
Now I say "Screw that!". Now I don't look at the letters at all. Just the values and character of the people. Partly because I found the dreaded Ron Paul back in 2007 but mostly because I live in NJ and no matter who I vote for, it's not going to matter. The state will do Dem. I also don't believe that 100% of votes cast are true and valid and counted correctly. The system has been compromised long ago.
I'm just going through the motions for my own satisfaction.
If Republicans or Libertarians put up someone I can agree with... I'll vote for them, not that it matters.