New York Police Departments Get Military Vehicles

Eight police departments in the state of New York recently added Mine-Resistant Ambush-Protected (MRAP) vehicles to their fleets.
MRAPs, which were specifically designed for guerilla combat during the Iraq War, are being distributed to local police forces throughout the country as part of Department of Defense's "1033 program." The latest recipients of these 18-ton, behemoths, each of which bears a retail price tag of about $500,000, are Albany, Warren, Jefferson, and five other counties and villages throughout upstate New York.
Albany County sheriff Craig Apple assured the Associated Press (AP) that his department is not becoming militarized. Neverthless, Apple, whose fleet already operates four other military surplus vehicles, giddily stated his approval of the MRAP: "It's armored. It's heavy. It's intimidating. And it's free." To ensure that no confusion arises over its function, part of the refurbishing process will include changing the MRAP's paint job from "military sand" to "civilian black."
In nearby Warren County, Undersheriff Shawn Lamouree explained more bluntly, "We live in the North Country. It's very common for people to have high-powered hunting rifles." He noted a past situation in which the MRAP could have been useful to overcome barricades. The AP notes that the Lamouree also suggested "it could be used occasionally by the emergency response team, which has used armored vehicles to serve drug warrants."
Although it may be the easiest means for the Pentagon to relinquish itself of surplus equipment, many are critical of the increasing trend of police militarization. The American Civil Liberties Union has repeatedly warned that militarization can curtail freedom and foment violence. Former Reason staffers Radley Balko and Mike Riggs discussed in a recent interview the multiple ways in which domestic police are becoming more militaristic.
There are also practical problems with MRAPs, some of which Reason covered when Ohio State University received one earlier this year. Domestic roads and bridges are not build to accommodate these vehicles. Even if police can get one onto a major roadway, the MRAP top out at 65mph. This makes them unlikely to beat standard police vehicles to a crime scene. Additionally, although the police departments received the MRAPs for free, they are responsible for the cost of refurbishing, fueling, and attending to their specialized mechanical issues. Also, these top-heavy vehicles, for which the military requires unique training and licensing to drive, are prone to rolling over especially on mountainous terrains.
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Oh, GOOD! This couldn't POSSIBLY go wrong! Enjoy, New Nawkers!
So, they're potential death traps for the cops who will be driving them.
I guess every cloud has a silver lining.
Potential death traps provided the driver doesn't wear their seatbelt....oh wait, that legal requirement is just for harassing the peasants, so no worries there.
Roll on!
I wonder if the troop compartment even has seatbelts?
Even if it does, there's a 50/50 chance the cops wouldn't use them. Imagine one of these things rolling over at speed with a bunch of unbuckled SWATties packed into the back.
This thing will probably end up killing far more cops than it ever saves, given the fact that the number of incidents where these things would actually be needed is vanishingly small, but they'll still break this things out every damn time they call out the SWAT team.
"I wonder if the troop compartment even has seatbelts?"
Yes, at least the ones I was in had 'em. And be damned if I didn't tighten them as hard as I could. I ended up with a couple of broken fingers in one of them, thanks to superior driving combined with excellent training by the Brits we gave some too. Bah.
To be fair, it was probably harder to drive on the left side of the desert.
At least their military-style assault troops in their military-style assault vehicles aren't carrying bayonets yet.... Are they?
"...And it's free."
No bitching then when April 15th rolls around, retard.
o ensure that no confusion arises over its function, part of the refurbishing process will include changing the MRAP's paint job from "military sand" to "civilian black."
Yes, as with Illegal Deadly Assault Weapons, the object's appearance is key to its function.
People of Albany, enjoy.
Albany County sheriff Craig Apple assured the Associated Press (AP) that his department is not becoming militarized. Neverthless, Apple, whose fleet already operates four other military surplus vehicles, giddily stated his approval of the MRAP: "It's armored. It's heavy. It's intimidating. And it's free."
"I have an erection just thinking about it breaking through a suspected drug dealer's fence."
"I have an erection just thinking about it breaking through a suspected drug dealer's fence."
"I hope we keep getting these things.....it's the only way I can achieve these days!"
Im tellin ya dude, we need to take back this country NOW.
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Beware the MRAP in the night, Anon Bot
Will it be easier or harder after every town over 10,000 population has armored assault vehicles?
If you like your MRAP...oh, never mind.
You want to play COINOPS, Apple? Fine. Don't be surprised when we start to play insurgents. If illiterate Mujs can build deadly IEDs from whatever they find lying around the junkyards of Shitistan, just think of what we could do.
If these dorks want to play MRAP, they should join the #$%&ing; Army.
Oh wait, that is dangerous...andno overtime.
Yup. And if you break the UCMJ, you might end up with a rope around your neck instead of a paid vacation thanks to your union.
illiterate Mujs don't have to contend with every chemical under the sun being heavily regulated or outright banned.
I can see why they'd do this. I mean, after all, somebody's gonna have to enforce that styrofoam cup ban--and that ain't gonna be popular.
That's NYC, not NYS.
Well, NYC should get their order in quick, 'cause those pro-styrofoam cup people aren't kidding around.
"We live in the North Country. It's very common for people to have high-powered hunting rifles."
The MRAP was designed specifically to safeguard a crew from IED and mine attacks coming from below the vehicle, not so much to serve as a straight armored vehicle. Until we start blowing up police vehicles, this is sheer fraud, waste, & abuse.
Because FYTY!
And it doesn't always do that every well.
By 2008, they were working quite well. But since when does some dipshit NY police force need to worry about IEDs? F'ing posers.
I was assuming they weren't getting the improved versions, but who knows nowadays?
Eh....still doesn't matter if the boom is big enough. Armor always loses in the end.
"But since when does some dipshit NY police force need to worry about IEDs?"
Agreed. Now if it was the Chicago PD...
The latest recipients of these 18-ton, behemoths, each of which bears a retail price tag of about $500,000, are Albany, Warren, Jefferson, and five other counties and villages throughout upstate New York.
Hotbeds of terrorist insurgent activity......all! You will rue the day upstate New York!
It's to enforce the SAFE act...
(Sadly, that may not be sarcasm)
Slightly OT from The Dark Side: http://thinkprogress.org/justi.....lice-rape/
Well, that's a fun fact.
Whoda guessed?
Whoda guessed?
The funnest fact of all is that that site recommends, nay demands, that they essentially be given more power.
OT but very worthy of mention: Couple 'who held three women as slaves for 30 years' were leaders of Maoist communist sect based in Brixton bookshop
Nice to see Communists making no excuses in living their ideology to the fullest.
Hey, if you're gonna be held captive for 30 years, you at least wanna know you're gonna be treated equally, comrade.
equal to the other captives, at least.
To ensure that no confusion arises over its function, part of the refurbishing process will include changing the MRAP's paint job from "military sand" to "civilian black."
To further ensure less confusion, SWAT team armor and riot police shields will be painted pink with rainbows and unicorns, and all troops, er civilian peace officers, will be equipped with ceremonial yellow ribbons for any child whose pet is terminated after following police procedures for officer safety.
OT but it shouldn't be: NOBODY NOTICED THIS.
Getting let down by teh Cleveland Browns or their owner is bad enough, but to be let down by the HyR commentariat is just too too much.
It's a link to 24/7, and the URL ends with "allegedly". What did they allegedly do?
The truck stop chain, OWNED BY THE CLEVELAND BROWNS OWNER, didn't pay millions of $$$ of rebates. Allegedly.
It would be the icing on the cake of the prosecutor was lying and let the Cleveland Browns owner down.
The MRAP appeared in 2007 to replace 1984's Humvee. The Himvee lacked sufficient armor and the retrofit was back logged. IEDs would blow thru the undercarriage. So the MRAP was developed to replace it. The MRAP has a V-shaped undercarriage to deflect IED blasts do they have the Humvees to the police and upgraded to MRAPs. The back seats of MRAPs face inward, so you can't shoot out the ports easily. So they are giving the MRAPs to the police . . .
Who knew you could have an arms race with a less developed country.
Oh good, they can roll these babies to enforce soda ban violations. New York's finest can never be too secure. They need to get home to their families every night.
The trucks may be free, but fuel and maintenance most definitely are not.
Dont forget to turn off your duke before you drive into manhattan!
I could have a lot of fun with that.
And, of course, if you like your insurance plan you can keep it.
Top heavy? Rolls easily? Good to know.
The solution comes to us from.....low tech. If fifth century Islamofanatic shit birds can whip up an IED from kitchen items, what me worry?
RPGs. Where does one shop his Bitcoin?
If this keeps up, I'm going to have to stop ambushing police vehicles.