Matt Welch at CNN.com: "Alarmed at Government Shutdown? Exhale"
Over at CNN.com's Opinion section, I have a piece arguing that federal shutdowns are not particularly significant, and may even produce some beneficial ends through irresponsible means. Column starts like this:
The first thing to remember about federal government shutdowns is that they do not matter very much.
History does not now recall the three Democrat-led shutdowns during the Carter administration over using Medicaid dollars to fund abortions, even though their combined 28 days will almost certainly dwarf the Great Impasse of October 2013.
Even the most famous modern shutdown, the 21-day Newt Gingrich/Bill Clinton standoff of 1995-96, had effects that were felt most acutely by comparatively well-off federal workers, not their taxpayer bosses.
A recent Congressional Research Service summary of that event included among its headline impacts stuff like "National Institute of Standards and Technology was unable to issue a new standard for lights and lamps that was scheduled to be effective January 1, 1996, possibly resulting in delayed product delivery and lost sales." Probably the worst thing back then was that passports for Americans and visas for foreigners went unprocessed for three weeks, taking a temporary bite out of the tourism industry.
So when President Barack Obama says the shutdown will "throw a wrench into the gears of our economy" and put "the American people's hard-earned progress at risk," it is appropriate to treat such claims with skepticism. As we saw during the run-up to the March 1 sequestration trims in federal spending, politicians are incentivized by self-interest and unconstrained by shame in maximizing the hyperbole about what may happen if their ability to collect and redistribute our money is impeded even a little bit.
None of this, however, means that the shutdown is good politics.
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Maybe we will get lucky, the shut down will last over a month, and we'll see congress critters slapping each other with empty gloves, like in the olden days of yor.
"You, sir, are a cad!"
*slap*
"Varlet!"
*slap*
I can dream...
Why not hope for full brawls, like we ocasionally see from Asia?
In Turkey the parties position their beefiest legislators in the aisle to act as blockers when the opposition attempts a flying wedge attack to seize the podium from an enemy party's speaker.
Duels. I have to believe that fiscally conservative politicians will generally have better aim.
I tend to agree. Bullets aren't free, you know.
That and campaigning for gun control every election cycle has got to cramp your range time.
I'm not alarmed. I do think it's a good example of why the government shouldn't be in charge of anything important; they obviously aren't competent or responsible enough to run a hot dog cart.
There's always money in the banana stand.
I am alarmed that this is what passes for a government shutdown.
Don't matter? Tell that to that old lady hiking in Arizona or Colorado or wherever the fuck who is lost and the GOP federal government shutdown is leaving to die stranded in the wilderness.
Idaho
I have to assume that it's also "Not looking for her because of shutdown" as well as "actively stopping anyone else from looking for her". Just a guess, though, and I'm cynical that way.
as well as "actively stopping anyone else from looking for her
Admittedly haven't RTFA, but that's my guess, too. S&R is largely a volunteer effort - scouts, community members, volunteer S&R specialists with S&R dogs.
The comments were massively disappointing. No derpage of note to be found anywhere.
How long has it been up?
There is a bit but nothing crazy. I love this comment:
No acknowledgement that they are still paying people to barricade out visitors. These thugs could, you know, be instead making sure no one defaces the monuments.
I fucking hate these moronic TEAM fucks.
But they will pay people to erract barricades and watch over if people jump over them.
This rock keeps away tigers.
I got into it with a Prog friend yesterday, before most of the hysteria even got going, and dropped the line of "this is where the government punishes people for not supporting the right people."
He called it spin.
I'm thinking if the cryer holds out, it becomes obvious that it really is about punishing people.
Is it the role of government to punish citizens for not supporing the right people?
Is there a law against not supporting the right people?
If the government already knows who the right people are, why do we bother with elections and crap?
Of course it's the role of government to punish people for not supporting His Majesty!
You'll make a great prog yet!
Is it the role of government to punish citizens for not supporing the right people?
Even if they do support the right people, once they've outlived their usefulness, it's off to the gulags.
Is there a law against not supporting the right people?
It's somewhere in the permutations and umbrellas of the Social Contract!
If the government already knows who the right people are, why do we bother with elections and crap?
They need to know who to punish, of course!
Is there a law against not supporting the right people?
...
It's somewhere in the permutations and umbrellas of the Social Contract!
Are your sure? I heard it was somewhere buried in the Affordable Care Act.
From an argument on the book of faces:
"This does not accomplish anything and it sets a very dangerous precedent that we can cut government funding and still be okay."
haha that line is priceless.
it sets a very dangerous precedent reveals the inconvenient truth that we can cut government funding and still be okay
Every single time something like this comes up, it becomes clear that the proglodytes regard every new spending level as sacrosanct and as a baseline for all future spending.
Moral of the story: Don't EVER let them get one new spending program into law. Not fucking ever.
I wonder if I'll be able to take my checkride for my private pilot's license if the "shutdown" is still going on next week. I wouldn't think it's a problem as the examiner will most likely be an independent contractor and the applicant is responsible for paying the examiner anyway.
"So when President Barack Obama says the shutdown will "throw a wrench into the gears of our economy" and put "the American people's hard-earned progress at risk," it is appropriate to treat such claims with skepticism"
Throw a wrench? As in a "monkey wrench"? So you'r calling Obama a monkey. Oh, that's racist. I'm telling on you to Joan Walsh.