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French Court Rules Champs Elysees Sephora Can't Stay Open Late, Even Though Everyone Involved Wants It To

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French business leaders have warned the Socialist president about his overbearing, anti-business tax and regulatory policies, calling the state France's real problem, while the French jobless rate hit an all-time high this summer. A French court did its part this week to add to the unemployment rolls, with an assist from the country's unions.

From France 24:

A Paris appeals court this week ordered the French cosmetics chain Sephora to close its flagship boutique on the iconic Champs Élysées boulevard at 9pm, angering salespeople who say they have freely accepted to work until midnight for years and now risk losing their jobs.

Following a trend among other businesses on Paris's most celebrated street, Sephora began extending its opening hours in 1996. Its designer perfumes, makeup and other cosmetics were, until this week, sold until midnight between Monday and Thursday, and as late as 1am on Friday and Saturday.

Citing labour laws that restrict night-time work, France's largest unions collectively sued the shop. An administrative court sided with Sephora on December 6, 2012, allowing the cosmetics giant to keep its exceptionally late hours on the Champs-Élysées.

However, the appeals court overturned that decision on Sunday, agreeing with unions that the store's "normal activity" does not "make night-time work a necessarity," as the law states.

Sephora employees said they felt like the unions "stabbed them in the back."

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178 responses to “French Court Rules Champs Elysees Sephora Can't Stay Open Late, Even Though Everyone Involved Wants It To

  1. Sephora employees said they felt like the unions “stabbed them in the back.”

    No, dummies. They stabbed you right in the heart. Full frontal assault. Suckers.

    1. The union management cares only about one thing… keeping the cash flowing into the union coffers. Their attitude towards the rank and file is that of a dairy farmer to his cows.

      Diseased cows which might infect other cows are to be ruthlessly culled. The poor cows that are diseased might think the farmer is their friend and protector, that he gives them food and eases the pain of their swollen udders, right up until they take the sledge blow to their skulls.

      1. -The union management cares only about one thing… keeping the cash flowing into the union coffers. Their attitude towards the rank and file is that of a dairy farmer to his cows.

        I imagine the unions that sued were doing so because the number of workers who wanted to take the working late hours option ‘off the table’ was perceived as greater than the number of Sephoria employees who wanted to work late. No motivation any different than business enterprises that lobby for regulation to prevent competitors from engaging in practices they do not want to have to engage in need be supposed.

        The problem is a government which can ‘set’ hours restrictions like this.

    2. They were aiming for their balls.

  2. Does anyone really need mascara after 9pm?

    1. Does anyone really need mascara BEFORE 9pm?

      1. WHY DO YOU HATE EMOS!!!

        *cuts self*

        1. It’s a results-driven hatred.

          *Cuts a notch on the wall*

      2. Nobody needs to do anything more than slightly define their eyelashes. All grossly-excessive forms of mascara must be prohibited.

        1. Prohibited? Ready for a little of the old ultraviolence! Me droogies and I shall produce real cutthroat britvas and slice you, then roll around in the red, red kroovy.

      3. Mike Ness needs mascara 24/7.

          1. Saw him this summer. Awesome.

    2. Does it matter?

      People want to work there selling it.

      Other people want to buy it.

      Need doesn’t enter into it, thank God.

  3. Unions stab everyone in the back eventually. That’s why it amuses me that they’re taking it in the shorts with Obamacare.

    1. God damn you!!!!

  4. WTF is a necessarity?

    1. Anything a lefty demands from others.

  5. This is appropriate here.

  6. I suppose eventually the French economy will consist entirely of bureaucrats, grey-marketeers, and black-marketeers.

    1. According to Judt (and he’s usually good on stats), not long after Krushchev was ousted, the USSR got 33% of its produce from the 3% of farm land operated ‘privately’. And no one in gov’t was going to admit to it.
      So maybe the French economy is already there.

    2. god willing!

      But seriously Paris’s convenience stores are packed to the gills with Cotes du Rhones and Bordeaux. As long as I have that…

      1. Yeah, i guess if they want to maintain themselves as an amusement park for tourists, that’s not the worst thing. As long as you aren’t a French person who needs a job.

        1. This is where many American cities in the West are going. No one is actually working and producing shit in them, they’re– as you say– amusement parks for tourists.

          No one who lives in Portland loves the light rail. People who visit there think it’s awesome.

    3. I put up a sign in front of my business today, you know, to attract customers.

      Big mistake.

      I didn’t ask for permission over at the Politburo and boy they took note. A young girl came zooming in her fancy Smart car and handed me a note demanding I take it down IMMEDIATELY.

      Kid probably gets paid 40 grand a year to zoom up and down the boulevard enforcing the most irrational of zoning laws. They funny thing is they do it to businesses who PAY THEIR FUCKING SALARIES.

      It would be funny if it wasn’t so infuriating.

      I’ll take it down tomorrow.

      1. Did she give you chapter and verse, in writing, of the municipal ordinance that your sign violated?

        If not, don’t do anything until you get a copy of the ordinance being cited, and you agree that your sign is out of compliance.

        I can’t tell you how many petty bureaucrats I have sent away empty-handed because they were enforcing imaginary laws and regulations.

        1. A lawyer friend of mine (sadly now deceased) always used to say that if the IRS ever gives you trouble about anything from a tax return you should ask to see the form they are working from and they will usually disappear.

          1. A lawyer friend of mine on the internet said that if the IRS ever calls you about anything, demand immunity before you talk to them any further, and they’ll usually go away.

        2. Oh, it’s a real ordinance alright.

          I have to take it down.

          Business owners have had it and have mobilized so let’s hope we get our party in power in November.

          1. “Business owners have had it and have mobilized so let’s hope we get our party in power in November.”

            I wish you well and hope that ‘some’ of the business owners don’t find the current regulations to their liking.

            1. Obviously “some” business owners DO find it to their liking or there probably wouldn’t have been an ordinance in the first place.

      2. If I was yous I would have gouged her fucking eye out with an ice scraper.

        1. Which must be at hand in Quebec in September.

          1. That’s not what I meant to type. Damn squirrels.

          2. The ice scraper comes out in December. Keep you posted.

      3. Why didn’t you kill her?

    4. …black-marketeers.

      RACIST!

  7. Unions aren’t about to let employers and employees make mutually beneficial exchanges of values on their own freely-chosen terms. Even allowing them to think it could lead to the brief but terrifying moment of realization that they don’t really need unions. That’s the last step before cannibalism.

    1. Everyone I know who is in a union hates the union and feels misrepresented. /anecdote

      Oh no, wait, I lied. I know an old lady who is whatever the postal workers union is in Canada and she gets paid super seniority wages for a full day when she only actually works a couple of hours. And she wants the union to fight to give the new workers the same stuff she has. I guess we’re not friendly anymore after i asked her if maybe the Post can’t afford to pay the new kids when she was getting 4 times the pay for a 1/4th of the work.

      1. If the Canadian Post can deliver a single fucking letter to the right address, they deserve every penny they get.

        I can’t WAIT until the U.S. post stops Saturday mis-delivery.

  8. Ladies and germs:

    It is time for FREEDOM FRIES again!!11!!1

  9. Bank of America ordered to pay $2.2 million to black Charlotte job seekers.

    I can’t wait for “the libertarian case against anti-discrimination law.”

    1. “I can’t wait for “the libertarian case against anti-discrimination law.””

      Pretty simple. It’s none of the gov’t’s business.

    2. US Department of Labor. I always forget to put that one in my list of departments that need to be cut when people ask me what could possibly be cut from the budget. Oh well, it’s not like I ever get to finish the list before they get upset and either walk off or start yelling.

      1. It’s much easier to just list the ones that are even remotely constitutional, the original ones: Justice, State, Treasury, and War/Defense.

    3. “the libertarian case against anti-discrimination law.”

      Well, here’s your fascist case for anti-discrimination law:

      What none of us have: the “right” to discriminate on the basis of our personal feelings. This is actually not an open debate.

      https://reason.com/blog/2013/09…..nt_4022192

      Happy with the company you are keeping?

    4. If Unions were kicked out of Public Schools and the war on drug was ended there would be no need for anti-discrimination labor laws.

      Blacks are put into a deep dark hole by the government.

      Making Bank of America (a big Obama supporter by the way and a big beneficiary from Obama’s stimulus, bail outs and Fed policy) pay a couple of a million may warm your little left wing heart but it will do absolutely nothing to end poverty and unemployment among American blacks.

      1. There are many non-union charter schools. Blacks either do no better or only a little better than in comprehensive public schools. If you think I am wrong, show me evidence otherwise.

        1. Up your ass, murcan.

        2. White people like Caliv G are self-loathing turds who are afraid of everything. You hate black people because they supposedly aren’t productive enough in society. So you faggots should love the Jews right? No, you insecure pussies hate them too because they fucking beat you at your own shit. Same with Asians, you hate them because they’re too smart. You never hear Asians whining like goddamn white retards about blacks getting affirmative action. Mexicans want to come here to WORK. No, no, we can’t have more productive members of society, they’ll steal your shitty job at McDonald’s or what the fuck ever. Must suck to be a white guy. Your dicks are smaller than blacks, you’re dumber than Asians and jews, and Mexicans are harder workers. Fuck, even white women are slowly but surely becoming more educated and successful than you faggots. Enjoy reveling in your past achievements. Soon white guys will have nothing to do, while blacks fuck their women, Jews, Asians and women run everything, and Mexicans do all the shit jobs. Oppression can only hide your inadequacies for so long

          1. MSNBC anchors post here now?

            1. Is that you Chris Matthews?

          2. AA, please meet CG. CG, this is AA.
            You guys must have a lot to discuss; you have a lot in common.

          3. Warning: the page to which AA’s handle links is NSFW

            It is also hilarious.

          4. Jews have contributed much to the American nation. Blacks, not so much.

            1. Hey Calvin!

              Instead of sitting around on the internet all day, sucking Jew cock and abusing yourself to pictures of loose women, why not do something productive and surrender your lives to Allah?

              Western society has become decadent, weak, and lazy, and is soon to collapse. The upcoming generation, people such as yourselves, want nothing more from life than to grow fat sitting around on computers all day, masturbating, drinking, and taking drugs. You are encouraged in this behaviour by corrupt politicians and absent new age parents while your societies and economies collapse around you. Meanwhile the Muslim Ummah, or brotherhood, grows rich on oil wealth and trains its upcoming generation to serve Allah, and to fight, willing to give their lives if necessary for the cause. The 19 hijackers of 9/11 have surely earned their place in paradise as do the suicide bombers who strike daily into the heart of the devil state of Israel. We are living among you, in Europe and America, and we are outbreeding you day by day, slowly taking over.

            2. Allah has a plan for each of us. He means us all to be good Muslims and live by his rules, as set out to the Prophet Muhammed (pbuh). Your sinful lives and wicked ways go against His plans, and you will be tortured for eternity in hell for your iniquities. Repent now and revert back to the one true faith.

              Where your joke of a faith, which no one in your society believes in anyway, tells you to love, be tolerant, and turn the other cheek, the Quran teaches us to “Kill the unbelievers wherever you find them, capture and besiege them and prepare for them every kind of ambush.”

              It also says “Against them make ready your strength to the utmost of your power, including steeds of war, to strike terror into (the hearts of) the enemies, of Allah and your enemies”.

            3. How can you hope to win your futile so called ‘war on terror’ against us? You have become weak, and no longer willing or able to fight. You even elected a pacifist president with Muslim sympathies to try and placate us. It’s only a matter of time until we win. Even now your soldiers contine to die on the battlefields of Afghanistan, and for what? The moment you leave, it will be back to traditional Sharia law. Your technological advances count for nothing if all you do with them is watch porn and play video games. We will continue our jihad on the west, to maim and kill those who oppose or insult us. See the truth for what it is and revert to Islam immediately. It is your only hope of survival.

              — Abu Ali Mazyad ibn Tariq al-Subai

          5. I suspect this racist troll is the same person as the other racist troll.

            1. Let’s see, we got Murkin shitting all over this thread and PB shitting all over the Cruz thread.

              Choices, choices…

          6. Holy shit AA’s self-loathing is epic. God it would be miserable if I hated my own race’s women much as him. Yikes!

        3. West African Superiority, its modern science not mythology.

          Introduction: The split between African and non-African populations is now estimated to have occurred more than 200,000 years ago, and genetic variation between population groups looks as if it may be greater than previously thought. ”The claim that there are no functional differences between populations or ethnic groups appears increasingly pass?.”

          Skeletal system: As king of the food chain, the African physiology has evolved in a very hostile rough environment where it had to compete with the most ferocious animals on the planet making skeletal physiology unique. It differs in the sense that the hips are smaller allowing for greater balance. All appendages are longer such as arms, legs, hands, which makes this physical construction extremely agile and fast. It has also been proven that blacks have a higher bone density making them more robust. In the United States, the higher prevalence of osteoporosis and the higher incidence of fractures in whites than in blacks may be attributed to the finding of lower bone density (BD) in both white children and adults. In South Africa, osteoporosis and fractures also occur more frequently in whites than in blacks.

          1. Epidemic system: The melanin which causes the dark skin in Africans not only helps to protect against UV rays, but also has a number of other benefits. Melanin is a molecule, but a very large complicated and complex living molecule. It has a very high molecular weight of over 200, meaning that one molecule of melanin is composed of a three dimensional configuration of over 200 individual atoms. It is a living molecule, a life chemical, and it is charged like a battery. In fact, it operates like a battery or super-conductor, yet it is heat-resistant and is characterized by a nice, sweet fragrance. In addition, just like chlorophyll in plants, melanin also has the ability to absorb energy.

            Muscular and Cardiovascular systems: Black people’s blood crystallizes differently from Caucasian’s blood. Blacks of West African ancestry (which would include most African-Americans) have a higher ratio of ”fast-twitch” muscle fiber than whites do, which gives them an edge at leaping and sprinting. East African blacks have more energy-producing enzymes in their muscles and seem to process oxygen more efficiently, which translates into greater aerobic endurance. The melanin which is not only in the skin also acts as an additional energy bolster.

            1. Nervous System: Black Africans have several advantages here. Melanin the molecule that makes Africans skin black also increases the speed of nerve and brain messages which are transmitted between the left and right hemispheres of the brain and all nerve signals transmitted throughout the bodily nerve network. This might explain why black babies mature faster on average than their white counterparts, even when they are poorer and eat a less healthy diet; they show better hand-eye coordination and walk earlier by about a month. All studies have shown that IQ is a result of culture and environment. This has become obvious for I.Q., which, in defiance of genetic determinists, has been rising in African Americans by an average of three points a decade over the last half-century. Asians and Jews have the highest IQ in the USA for the simple reason of culture. The size of brain between any of the races is pretty much the same.

              1. Sexual Organs: Blacks penis size averages around 7 inches, whites around 6, and Asians around 5.2 inches. Africans also are none to be more fertile producing more seamen.

                Proof in evidence: There is now believed to be more genetic variation between African and non-African populations. The alleged ”functional differences” are in physique, musculature, metabolic efficiency, hormone levels and reaction time. A black men and women of West African decent have won nearly every single 100 meter dash race since Jesse Owens. A black man of East African decent has won every Boston Marathon since 1990. Blacks dominate in nearly every fast passed sport, such as basketball, football, and boxing. There is an IQ discrepancy between all races, but these differences can be attributed to culture and not race. The IQ discrepancy has been declining between whites and black in the US. Due to higher melanin, black children have been proven to have better eye to hand coordination and also neural transmission in the body and brain.

                1. Africans also are none to be more fertile producing more seamen.

                  Yes, but what does the long tradition of sailors with African heritage in the navies of the UK and America have to do with sexu….wait.

                  1. From that cuckold site in his name:

                    We need African DNA in Europe, it helps refreshen our DNA and which prevents deseases, promots evolution and makes us much stronger in general, just look at sports. Its a natural thing for people to want to mix and mingle. Its even seen in the animal kingdom. Being a cuck or a bull is genetic, but the charackteristic comes out through environment and culture. We know this because some Ape sociaties are Harim and others monogamous.

                    Yup.

                    1. That was a lost verse from Shakespeare’s Othello, complete with Jacobean spelling.

                2. You are right about some things, but your other arguments rest on pseudoscience ans wishful thinking. Melanin has not been found to have any positive effects in the brain, and in any case there is no correlation between melanin in the brain and race.

                  1. See AA? I told you that you guys have a lot to discuss!
                    Oh, and please do it elsewhere.

                    1. This is my brother Darryl, and this is my other brother Darryl.

                3. “Africans also are none to be more fertile producing more seamen.”

                  Bullshit. Europeans were building ships and sailing around the world long before anyone else had the courage to get out of sight of the coast. Well, except for the polynesians, they produced a lot of seamen also.

                  1. I realize you’re joking, Suthen, but Zheng He and his treasure ship fleet beat the shit out of anything in the West, and the rest of the world. I mean, have you seen a picture of them? They were huge!

                    1. Huge Chinese vessels full of seamen.

                      Is there something you’re trying to tell us here?

        4. One hundred and fifty years ago the red squirrel was a common sight across England. But in my life I’ve never seen one. There are still a small number left in Scotland and many of the islands around the UK, but very few if any are left in mainland England.

          Why is this? It’s because of the introduction of the Eastern gray squirrel from the States. The gray squirrels are larger, stronger and more fertile than their red cousins and crucially, when a gray and a red squirrel procreate, out pops a little gray squirrel! Basically the red squirrels have been bred almost to extinction and have been a willing and eager vehicle for their own demise.
          It’s evolution…a natural process to enrich and perfect the species, even if in this case it was prompted by the hand of man. There are various conservation efforts going on to preserve the red squirrels, but I can’t imagine the squirrels themselves are too bothered: isn’t it natural to want to be as strong, healthy and fertile as you can be? Because the gray is the dominant sub-species in every way possible?

          1. Now bearing that in mind, think about humans. Black people, when given the same privileges and upbringing as whites, outstrip them in every way possible. Take athletics, a sport which depends mostly upon natural physical prowess: it’s undeniably dominated by black sportsmen and women. Black people – at least in the UK – have lower rates of mental illness. Perhaps because they’re more at ease with themselves, more confident, feel less inadequate? I certainly think so.

            And most of all, when a black person and a white person procreate, out pops a little black baby. How many times have you seen an interracial union produce a white skinned, straight haired child? What better measure of black superiority can there be than dominant genes?

            1. So what does the white sub-species do? Well, make like the squirrels and breed ourselves close to extinction in order to improve and strengthen the race as a whole. Maybe one day soon the red squirrel will exist only on protected reservations or behind bars in a zoo. Maybe one day thousands of years from now the last few weaker white people will lock themselves away in order to preserve themselves too. They shouldn’t though: we haven’t evolved this far to throw it all away. This is why I’ve come to think that white people should never breed with other white people: embrace progress and breed progress. Progress is black.

              Many people say once you go black, you never go back. I disagree. That’s at far too simple a level, and it’s more complex than that. Once you THINK black, and UNDERSTAND black, then you never go back. Like the red squirrels you become a willing and eager vehicle for your sub-species’ own demise. The thought of the extinction of the white race might scare you at first. But it also excites you, doesn’t it? And so it should: the stronger, non-white future is exciting.

            2. I am intrigued by your ideas and would like to subscribe to your newsletter.

              1. Don’t stop him now, HM. He’s on a roll!

                He also doesn’t seem to know what evolution is, but that’s neither here nor there for the noble man of superior West African blood.

                1. I have no desire to stop him/her. AA seems to have shut Murkin up, or at least got him hot and bothered enough to search for interracial cuckold porn.

                  1. AA seems to have shut Murkin up

                    Huh. That almost makes it sound like they’re the same person who is just trolling.

                    Almost.

                    1. I dunno. Murkin kept linking to a particular blog the other day and refused to answer my repeated queries about whether he was the author, which leads me to believe he is the author. If so, we can pretty much assume Murkin’s story is that he is a novice math teacher who has no clue whatsoever on how to teach, and instead of admitting that, he just blames his failures on the “niggers and spics” who just aren’t capable of understanding his “brilliance”.

                      It would be hilarious if it weren’t for the reality of the poor children who are forced to attend his class. Always remember that this is who our public schools choose to hire.

                    2. Where is this blog? I want to find it.

                    3. It’s basically Murkin without threading, but here you go.

                2. I think you meant to say that he is on a troll.

                3. Bluto: Did the tough get going when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?

                  Otter:”Germans?”

                  Boon: “Forget it, he’s on a roll!”

                  Ahem.

                  As you were. Just thought this scene was appropriate at this time.

          2. We get the weirdest trolls in the universe.

            At least I hope they’re just trolls. The prospect of real people being this fucking stupid frightens me.

            1. They are trolls. We we attract these trolls because of their searing hate for anyone who holds liberty as their highest value. To me that is more frightening.

              1. I think we attract these trolls because this is the internet.

            2. Irish,

              They exist. They vote for free shit and liberal or democrat all the time!

              Ba-da bing, ba-da bong!

      2. Oh shut the fuck up. You just want to get rid of unions so you can pay teachers third world wages, you don’t give a damn about Black people. In fact, “more than 90 percent of the variation in student gain scores is due to the variation in student-level factors that are not under control of the teacher.” Libertarianism is all about letting capital stamp all over working people.

        1. Dont you have a sidewalk to go shit on somewhere?

        2. You just want to get rid of unions so you can pay teachers third world wages,

          I’m a school superintendent now? (A public sector job, by the way.)

          1. That’s superintendent Chalmers to you, pal.

        3. Oh, damn. The idjit mercan with a new handle.

          1. Socialists tire and bore me.

            Speaking of which, where’s Tony?

            My feet are up and have a can of Limonatta ready to be entertained by his Vaudevillian takes on life and politics.

            Psh!

        4. In fact, “more than 90 percent of the variation in student gain scores is due to the variation in student-level factors that are not under control of the teacher.”

          Then why do we need to pay teachers a bunch of money?

          I love when teacher advocates pull out the ‘most of the success of a student doesn’t have to do with the teacher’ argument. You can tell that they think they’re showing why we shouldn’t blame teachers for student failure, but actually they’re showing that teachers have virtually no impact on the quality of education received.

          Tell me, Lydia. If virtually all variation in student gains has nothing to do with teachers, then why should teachers get paid a lot of money? Because by your own admission they seem unbelievably useless and easily replaceable.

          1. “Tell me, Lydia. If virtually all variation in student gains has nothing to do with teachers, then why should teachers get paid a lot of money? Because by your own admission they seem unbelievably useless and easily replaceable.”

            I have lost a couple of ‘friends’ by asking that exact question; well, let’s call ’em ‘acquaintances’.
            I’ve yet to get an answer.

          2. I love when teacher advocates pull out the ‘most of the success of a student doesn’t have to do with the teacher’ argument. You can tell that they think they’re showing why we shouldn’t blame teachers for student failure, but actually they’re showing that teachers have virtually no impact on the quality of education received.

            Yep

  10. Altogether now.

    Unions.

    Are.

    Evil.

    1. I do not find unions to be any more (or less) inherently evil than any other organization where people band together for self-interested goals. What makes them, or any other organization like that, evil is when they use force (including government force) to further their goals.

      I can imagine unions of employees in a libertopia which would have little need to engage in such activity.

      1. Bo, they’re full of shit and prevent progress. They’re worse than most organizations and are strictly out to coerce cash from workers. Fuck them.

        1. A union of depositors that threatened to ‘strike’ with organized withdrawal runs on, say, Citibank, would be cool. And totally fucking illegal a week after it formed. Stability and all y’know.

          1. TheZeitgeist|9.24.13 @ 11:00PM|#
            “A union of depositors that threatened to ‘strike’ with organized withdrawal runs on, say, Citibank, would be cool. And totally fucking illegal a week after it formed.”

            Two problems:
            If Citi were in trouble, no organization is required. That info gets around.
            Secondly, even given what passes for a government now, I’m not sure it could find a way to punish those who did cash out.

        2. A union of depositors that threatened to ‘strike’ with organized withdrawal runs on, say, Citibank, would be cool. And totally fucking illegal a week after it formed. Stability and all y’know.

          1. It would also be totally pointless.

            1. With fractional reserve banking, it could be more than pointless. If the depositors demanded real cash, even in the five-day window the powers that be could not summon enough paper. The ruse would be exposed.

      2. I can imagine unions of employees in a libertopia which would have little need to engage in such activity.

        Then they wouldn’t be unions because unions exist to restrict the supply of labor to increase it’s cost. That can only be accomplished coercively.

        1. Unions sprung to existence in the late 19th century for a very good reason: Nobody watched out for workers except the workers. Unions won their battles and acquired legitimacy, then for some reason elected Democrats that implemented government crap that made them outdated.

          From the 40 hour work week to OSHA to child labor laws – all of which unions supported – unions inadvertently made themselves redundant. The government literally replaced their function. What does that leave unions? Shit like what you describe, which is why they are so socially useless today. There’s nothing intrinsic to labor unions that make them so pointless and pseudo-evil as they are today, unions designed it to be that way without knowing it.

  11. THIS IS WHAT TONY ACTUALLY BELIEVES IN.

    Also, Tulpa, probably.

  12. You know who else felt like they were stabbed in the back by the French?

    1. Alfred Dreyfus?

    2. You know who else felt like they were stabbed in the back by the French?

      Huh? Would’ve been better without the last part… Dolchstosslegende was about the German people stabbing the German army in the back.

      1. “Dolchstosslegende was about the German people stabbing the German army in the back.”
        Mythology.

        1. Where did I suggest it was something other than that?

          1. Didn’t say you did.

    3. Brutus?

    4. The French?

  13. You guys are idiots.
    Monitor and influence policy that will affect members’ interests and concerns.
    Unions Bargain with employers to achieve better wages, benefits and working conditions;
    Assist members when they have concerns about their workplace or feel they’ve been treated unfairly;
    Monitor and influence policy that will affect members’ interests and concerns.

    Thank a Union: 36 Ways Unions Have Improved Your Life

    1. “Thank a Union”

      No, actually, screw every one of them. They are nothing but thug-enforced protection rackets.

      1. who happened to get you weekends off.

        1. Guy LaGuy|9.24.13 @ 7:41PM|#
          “who happened to get you weekends off.”

          Henry Ford, you idiot.

          1. Speaking for Ford, saw this in Outside:

            In 1914, Henry Ford enticed thousands of automobile workers to stay in soul-sapping jobs with the promise of $5 a day.

            I know their whole thing is any job not involving free spirited outdoor play is hell, but c’mon. Soul sapping? And the next best alternative for those workers was…?

            1. I am not sure why the lack of alternatives would make any work more or less ‘soul sapping.’ The work is either ‘soul sapping’ or it is not.

              1. Because all humans define good jobs and bad jobs and soul sapping jobs based upon their sensibilities and the jobs available.

                & in particular humans will wildly disagree if a any particular job is “good” or “bad” based solely on what the individual in that job believes they would likely be doing (or should be doing if only) without that job.

                So you may disagree, but I’m completely sure the lack of alternatives to a given job will change how people view it and specifically change whether most view any particular job as ‘soul sapping’.

              2. I am not sure why the lack of alternatives would make any work more or less ‘soul sapping.’

                ‘Soul sapping’ is subjective, but I’d like to think there’s not that many people who wouldn’t feel slightly better about their mundane manufacturing job if the alternative were, say, sucking cocks in the park.

              3. Well, Ford offered pay higher than the workers could find elsewhere because they kept quitting before he did that.

                So, apparently the workers are the ones who found it unsatisfactory (soul-sapping).

            2. “Soul sapping?”

              Written by some lefty union apologist like GL.
              If those same jobs got the pay raise through union thuggery, they’d be the pride of the bronzed American working man!

        2. No, increasing productivity and wealth got me weekends off.

        3. What makes you think I take weekends off?

          1. “By faithfully working eight hours a day you may eventually get to be boss and work twelve hours a day.” – Robert Frost

    2. That’s only slight less idiotic than “If you can read, thank a teacher.”

    3. There is inherently nothing wrong with collective bargaining. However, since the government decided to stick its nose where it doesn’t belong with the Wagner Act of 1935 (Thanks FDR – you disgusting little syphilitic gimp!), unions have become the paramilitary wing of the Democratic Party. Brownshirts who are willing, at their masters’ command, to shatter the storefront windows of the Jewish “Banksters” with the utmost glee, as they look forward to orgies of rape and pillage.

      1. Heroic Mulatto|9.24.13 @ 8:40PM|#
        “There is inherently nothing wrong with collective bargaining.”

        At first look, I’d agree, but history suggests otherwise.
        See “Meet You in Hell” (Standiford). The Homestead strike, promoted as the archetype of Pinkerton aggression is exactly the opposite.
        The strike was called by the high-paid workers, threatening the laborers (who might have been trained to take over those jobs) until they went along.
        The Pinkertons tried to find a landing area away from the union thugs to invest the plant and prevent vandalism; the thugs followed them until there was little choice; the thugs attacked.
        Standiford is no ‘capitalist tool;, and you can almost hear hem grinding his teeth as he writes that, but that’s what happened.

        1. Well, bargaining within one’s fists is always evil. What I’m saying is that if one accepts a freedom to associate, then we must also recognize that some people will use that freedom for mutual aid, that is advocating for better wages and/or conditions. As long as the negotiations are peaceful, I don’t see what the problem would be from a liberty-minded view.

          1. “*As long as the negotiations are peaceful*, I don’t see what the problem would be from a liberty-minded view.

            And I’m coming to think that mob-negotiations may not ever be “peaceful”.
            I think ‘a’ solution is that anyone is welcome to form a “union”, “club”, “association”, “whatever”, but when that group takes action, the leaders are legally liable for the action.
            And, obviously, an employer is welcome to not negotiate with any grouping.

    4. Fuck you, Guy Lafleur.

    5. That article is from an industry representative. Why would I read an article from Mercedes telling me how awesome a new Mercedes is?

    6. Unions have already done their work. Now they need to go away. Otherwise they’ll undo all the good they did.

    1. Again? You guys have to get a better cable package or something to do besides boning all the time.

      1. Not all of us can be happy spending our evenings watching a Doctor Who marathon.

        1. Hey, a hundred tacos for $100 is a good deal.

    2. Liberty Ordeath Spicer.

      1. I’d change that to “Ordeth” with an umlaut over the “o” to make it even more fucking metal.

    3. I’m confrused, are you auctioning the Baby or the name, and if I win, why would I want your baby’s name?

      1. I mean, I’m assuming you’re standard white suburbanites, so it’s gonna be something like Skyler or something. No one has named a kid “John” or “Ralph” since like 1987.

  14. There is no better way to grow the economy than to ban economic activity!

  15. Someone needs to send the Sephora folks some of these Demotivational posters: http://www.despair.com/effort.html

    1. And maybe the Cleveland Brown can let them down one last time.

  16. The weirdly secretive Montreal band’s Allelujah! Don’t Bend! Ascend! album was picked as the best Canadian record of 2013, besting out nine others on the Short List.
    GY!BE released this statement this morning.

    3 quick bullet-points that almost anybody could agree on maybe=

    -holding a gala during a time of austerity and normalized decline is a weird thing to do.

    -organizing a gala just so musicians can compete against each other for a novelty-sized cheque doesn’t serve the cause of righteous music at all.

    -asking the toyota motor company to help cover the tab for that gala, during a summer where the melting northern ice caps are live-streaming on the internet, IS FUCKING INSANE, and comes across as tone-deaf to the current horrifying malaise.

    1. …”during a summer where the melting northern ice caps are live-streaming on the internet,”…

      So pretty much all the summers since, what, 1850?

      1. They didn’t have live-streaming in the 1850s, jackass. All they had back then was animated gifs.

        1. *Incoming teenage PC porn flashback*

          Ouch
          Ouch
          Ouch!

        2. Jesus there were no animated GIFs in 1850. It was ASCII art. You can’t do animated GIFs on a daisywheel printer for fuck’s sake.

  17. Workers don’t like having to work at night. If they do it, it is because they have no other choice. That is why unions oppose it unless it is necessary for the business. It is not necessary for this chain to be open all night.

    1. Lydia|9.24.13 @ 9:30PM|#
      …”It is not necessary for this chain to be open all night.”

      Open your own store and make that choice.
      Until then, STFU. Please.

      1. Libertarianism: the freedom of whoever controls the capital to structure the society. How can I see as an inalienable right something that is denied to most of the population?

        1. Lydia|9.24.13 @ 9:42PM|#
          “Libertarianism: the freedom of whoever controls the capital to structure the society.”

          No, you lying piece of shit. You’re simply one more terrified ignoramus come to tell us your fantasy of what we prefer.
          Get fucked with a rusty shovel.

        2. I’m confused. Is Lydia really Tony?

          1. I don’t think Tony bothers with socks; he’s a a truly hateful, murderous Stalinist, it’s been pointed out and he’s just fine with that.
            So there’s no reason to adopt another handle.

            1. There is at least one reason, but maybe it went with something less predictable than Tonya.

        3. Controlling one chain’s hours is not controlling the structure of society as society still has the right to engage or not engage in said commerce.

          As I promise you – the chain would not be open as late as they are if very few people purchased products in those hours.

    2. Lydia, you did not answer me. Dont you have a sidewalk to go shit on somewhere?

      Pick and eat your own lice shithead.

      1. She won’t do it unless the union allows it.

    3. Yes. No one in the history of labor has ever preferred to work at night.

      The night owl is a mythical beast, akin to the unicorn and the “social justice” hack who argues in good faith.

    4. I worked at night and it was awesome.

      Also, you sound like you’re no stranger to working nights.

      1. You meant stranger to working did you not?

    5. Workers don’t like having to work at night. If they do it, it is because they have no other choice. That is why unions oppose it unless it is necessary for the business. It is not necessary for this chain to be open all night.

      This is unbelievably stupid. These aren’t fast food workers. They’re sales people at a high end cosmetics chain that is located on prime real estate in Paris.

      If you think these people are members of the poor oppressed working class, then you are out of your mind. A salesman at this kind of firm is certainly capable of taking another position if they wanted too, they simply prefer working at such a reputable shop and making all the money that comes with it.

      1. “This is unbelievably stupid.”

        Irish, I agree, but I think it misses the point.
        I’m gonna propose the Sevo rule of transactions:
        ‘In any transaction between two parties, the imposition of a third party’s interference will only reduce the value of the transaction’
        Lydia has no skin in the transaction; s/he’s a third party doing nothing other than offering a worthless opinion. If that opinion affects the transaction, the mutual gain from that transaction is likely to be lost, and the result may turn out to be negative.
        This is the same dynamic which makes the ‘multiplier’ from government interference (less than symbol) 1.
        for the same reason, we subtract the value of taxation; given that it is not voluntary, the transactions there yield a negative value.

    6. I love working at night. Most of the assholes like you are at home then.

  18. Sephora employees said they felt like the unions “stabbed them in the back.”

    Fucking duh. You have an option: Go on strike by staying open and working after 9pm.

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