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CNN Debuting Crossfire Early Due to Syria, Longshore Union Breaks With AFL-CIO Over Obamacare, Immigration Reform, Florida Man Finds Sunken Spanish Treasure: P.M. Links

Ed Krayewski | 9.3.2013 4:30 PM

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    President Obama is confident he'll get support from Congress on action in Syria, while some members of Congress aren't so sure. Others are using the situation to push for a reversal of defense spending cuts. France says it'll increase military aid to Syria's rebels if the US decides not to strike the country. CNN will be debuting its reboot of Crossfire, with Newt Gingrich, S.E. Cupp, Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones, this Monday instead of next Monday as scheduled, because of the debate about Syria.

  • The International Longshore and Warehouse Union severed ties with the AFL-CIO over the latter labor organization's support for Obamacare and immigration reform.
  • The California state assembly has put on hold legislation passed by the Senate that would see the installation of RFID chips in driver's licenses and other state ID.
  • A Detroit resident let the city's tax department keep her $500 refund, and the tax department insisted she actually owed more than $5,000 in response. The resident, an accountant, eventually found the city actually owed her an additional $416 in refunds.
  • Four television stations alleged to have links to the Muslim Brotherhood have been closed by Egyptian authorities.
  • Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez was convicted of pot possession, fined $250 and ordered to give anti-drug talks to children.
  • A Florida family found a sunken Spanish treasure containing gold chain, gold coins, and a gold ring, estimated to be worth $300,000.
  • The London's Walkie-Talkie skyscraper, currently under construction, melted a car.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    The resident, an accountant, eventually found the city actually owed her an additional $416 in refunds.

    Hell hath no fury like an MBA scorned.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    CNN will be debuting its reboot of Crossfire…

    They bought their tickets, they knew what they were getting into. I say, let ’em crash.

    1. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

      BUT SE CUPP

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        If CNN just got her and Michelle Malkin to mudwrestle and not talk about politics at all, they would have their first hit show.

        1. Lady Bertrum   12 years ago

          It should be SE Cupp vs. Crystal Ball.

          Ball vs. Cupp

          1. SugarFree   12 years ago

            Cupp’n’Balls

          2. RBS   12 years ago

            2 balls one Cupp

          3. Irish   12 years ago

            S.E. Cupp and Krystal Ball actually were cohosts of MSNBC’s The Cycle.

            Only MSNBC could let a show that immediately makes people think of menstruation go to air.

            1. Lady Bertrum   12 years ago

              Every 28 days, instead of debating, they’d cry and eat pistachio Haagen-Dazs.

            2. Ted S.   12 years ago

              Tony Orlando sings about a yeast infection.

        2. JW   12 years ago

          If CNN just got her and Michelle Malkin to mudwrestle and not talk about politics at all, they would have their first hit show.

          Crossfire: Jello Edition.

          1. Episiarch   12 years ago

            It would be way more popular than anything else they have. Those morons should hire me and I’ll make their network more popular than HBO.

            1. Ted S.   12 years ago

              Hire Howard Beale.

    2. Irish   12 years ago

      Newt Gingrich, S.E. Cupp, Stephanie Cutter and Van Jones

      A demagogue, a RINO, a spin artist, and a Truther. Quite the murderers row of talent CNN put together there.

      1. Drake   12 years ago

        Up against Monday Night Football. Let me know how it is.

      2. some guy   12 years ago

        Make no mistake. It isn’t about quality. It’s about quantity and volume.

  3. Matrix   12 years ago

    A bit of poetic justice
    Rapist may have contracted HIV from his victim
    Definitely deserves it.

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      Ow! That’s gonna leave a mark…

    2. Raston Bot   12 years ago

      Female to male transmission? Highly unlikely.

      1. Zeb   12 years ago

        It does happen. Perhaps unlikely in any given case, but fairly likely to happen to someone at some point.

      2. Cytotoxic   12 years ago

        It happens. More likely if there’s vaginal trauma.

        1. Matrix   12 years ago

          and that happens quite often with rape.

        2. Michael Price   12 years ago

          Also if the male has STIs, which I’m guessing rapists get more often than most men.

  4. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    A Florida family found a sunken Spanish treasure containing gold chain, gold coins, and a gold ring, estimated to be worth $300,000.

    What the taxes like on that kind of fine

    1. Episiarch   12 years ago

      That’s the portion you leave for One-Eyed Willie so that you don’t accidentally set off the booby trap like those stupid Fratellis.

    2. Tim   12 years ago

      In Detroit, about $3,000,000.

    3. Sevo   12 years ago

      “What the taxes like on that kind of fine”

      Prolly, oh, $300,000.

    4. Hyperion   12 years ago

      Hey, that’s our shared heritage you got there. Now give it to me!

    5. db   12 years ago

      I’m sure they have reported the entire find…

    6. Ska   12 years ago

      That’s really interesting actually – coinage and collectibles is taxed at cap gains rates of 28% – but only on the sale of assets.

  5. Matrix   12 years ago

    Travyon’s dad leads FAMU football tema onto field
    Seriously, they just need to officially beatify the kid, already. St. Trayvon, the patron saint of Skittles.

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      “Trayvon wanted to go to FAMU.”

      Right.

      1. Matrix   12 years ago

        he got kicked out of high school. sounds like FAMU material to me…

        1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

          Please. They already had a spot for him on Miami’s football team.

        2. Almanian!   12 years ago

          HIYO!

          1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

            We Went There: Jeff Ross’s Scorched-Earth Brilliance at James Franco’s Celebrity Roast
            …A Ross joke I don’t expect will make the telecast: “Face it, Franco, you and Anne Hathaway had the comedic chemistry of Trayvon Martin and George Zimmerman.”…

            …You could tell he wanted the boos, that it was somehow his responsibility as a professional roaster to actually lay a glove on Franco. It’s hard to say if he did. Maybe it’s impossible. But he closed with a sign-off worthy of Don Rickles himself: “You truly are a Renaissance man. I hope you die of black plague.”

            1. RBS   12 years ago

              Is Franco supposed to be funny or something? Or is he supposed to be all super serious?

              1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

                Franco was roasted because every comedian has a Franco joke. Not so much a comic peer as he is an easy target.

                Still wanna see Springbreakers, though. I find the clips of him in it mesmerizing.

            2. Ted S.   12 years ago

              What does it say about me that I laughed?

            3. Killazontherun   12 years ago

              I watched it, some really good material. Jews cracking the funniest anti-Semitic jokes this side of Anthony Jizzneck’s one with the punch line, ‘Now I can’t believe they only did it once.’ Surprisingly funny was Jonah Hill. I didn’t think I’d relate to his point of view at all, but he had me the entire time. Such beautiful, crystal clear hate on display. My only disappointment, Sarah Silverman who looked incredible wore black underwear so not even a cameltoe on that cooch.

      2. Generic Stranger   12 years ago

        College students are much easier marks than armed neighborhood watchmen.

    2. Brett L   12 years ago

      I wonder when they’re going to have the parents of the drum major the marching band beat to death do this.

    3. Red Rocks Rockin   12 years ago

      We’re they sippin’ that sizzurp instead of Gatorade?

  6. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez was convicted of pot possession…

    If he had kept it on the reservation they wouldn’t have been able to touch him.

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

      Cleveland Indians closer Chris Perez was convicted of pot possession…

      He let me down one last time.

      1. Almanian!   12 years ago

        +6 feet

        1. Numeromancer   12 years ago

          -12 feet

  7. Matrix   12 years ago

    Google has teamed up with Nestle to name their new mobile OS “KitKat”.

    1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      Yo, fuck Nestle. My six-year old wanted a Wonka chocolate bar after seeing the movie for the first time and was denied by their evil discontinuing of the line.

      And she’d like to have a word with them about the “Everlasting” part of the “Everlasting Gobstoppers” they sell.

      1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

        Ultimate Japanese Kit Kat Variety Pack (15 x 2 flavors)

        1. RBS   12 years ago

          I don’t know if I’m going to click that… Is one of the flavors “milk”?

          1. PapayaSF   12 years ago

            I have had a green tea flavor KitKat. The most I can say is “interesting.”

            1. db   12 years ago

              Some Japanese and Chinese candies/snacks are really good, and others just leave you scratching your head.

        2. A Mathematician   12 years ago

          I’ve had Purple Sweet Potato and it was pretty good

      2. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

        “This is the most blatant case of false advertising since my suit against the movie The Neverending Story.”

        1. C. Anacreon   12 years ago

          Sounds like it could only be beaten by a fish story. Does that sound like someone who had all they could eat?

        2. BiMonSciFiCon   12 years ago

          Care to join me for a belt of Scotch?

          1. Brandon   12 years ago

            It’s 9:30 in the morning!….Somewhere.

      3. Episiarch   12 years ago

        Uh, if Charlie hadn’t fucked up the candy lab by going where Wonka told him not to go, those would have been developed by now. Did you know that Charlie was actually a saboteur paid by the Mars company?

        1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

          That’s total bullshit. He did nothing wrong at all in the chocolate room, as you well know.

          Besides, since Charlie is now the lord of chocolate, I’m sure he’ll presently be crushing you with lawyers.

          1. Episiarch   12 years ago

            You’re a fool, ProL, and always have been if you’ve fallen for Charlie’s act. When he got in that glass elevator and went to the space hotel, he was reporting to the Vermicious Knids, you blithering idiot. He’s a god damn sleeper agent!

            1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

              That’s a damned lie. I know several Oompa Loompas who will back Charlie to the hilt. To the hilt!

              1. Episiarch   12 years ago

                You’d believe one of those little orange monsters? After knowing what they did to Veruca Salt? You really are stupider than I thought.

                Professor Hubert Farnsworth: What are those horrible creatures?

                Glurmo: They’re the Grunka-Lunkas. They work at the factory.

                Professor Hubert Farnsworth: Tell them I hate them!

                1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                  For those that don’t know, Veruca Salt is Episiarch’s mom.

            2. Killazontherun   12 years ago

              Now, that you have put that scenario in my head, it is the only one that makes sense. I find your ability to make complete sense out of anything highly disturbing.

              1. Episiarch   12 years ago

                YOU CAN’T UN-THINK IT

                1. alittlesense   12 years ago

                  The actress who played Veruca was actually pretty hot when she was in her 20s. (Julie Dawn Cole)

      4. Jordan   12 years ago

        And she’d like to have a word with them about the “Everlasting” part of the “Everlasting Gobstoppers” they sell.

        I’m surprised some moron hasn’t sued them. BUT IT SAID DOUBLE STUFF!!1 /derp

        1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

          Double Stuff is pretty close to double stuff. “Everlasting” Gobstoppers last less than ten minutes. 10 minutes divided by infinity = lawsuit.

          1. db   12 years ago

            They never said whether the “Double” applies to the mass or the volume of the gill ng.

            1. db   12 years ago

              “filling”

      5. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        I’d be reluctant to give my kid a Gobstopper. Almost choked to death on one myself.

        I liked the Wonka candy bar from the 70s though. Would definitely grab a pack if they made it again. Has a lot of nostalgia value.

        1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

          You can probably buy one from the 70s on eBay. I advise against consuming it, however.

          I got the feeling the chocolate bars might still be available in other countries, like maybe the UK.

    2. jesse.in.mb   12 years ago

      I thought it was supposed to be Key Lime Pie…

      Thane, can we have a ruling on this?

      1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

        There was a disco in my town through the 70s up until the early 90s which made a liquored up shake by taking a Key Lime pie slice (graham cracker crust), whipped cream, heavy creme and several liquors in a blender. Ridiculously delicious.

        1. JW   12 years ago

          Maybe you’d like a Chocolate Choo-choo chaser?

          1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

            Wasn’t that the name of the demon who raped Jonah Hill in This Is The End?

      2. Thane of the Candy Kingdom   12 years ago

        It’s AP confirmed

        ’nuff said

    3. CE   12 years ago

      It breaks easily and if the thing gets too warm, you have a mess?

  8. Matrix   12 years ago

    More people die from drug overdoses and car accidents than from guns

    1. Andrew S.   12 years ago

      Obviously we need to ban cars and drugs as well as guns! For the children!

    2. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

      Don’t give them ideas. Statists would be happy to ban drugs and cars.

      1. Matrix   12 years ago

        yeah… crowd us all into public transportation and other forms of low energy transportation.

        why do you need a car? Just walk everywhere you need to go!

        1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

          I just don’t understand why density fetishists won’t just get it through their thick skulls that we need at least 10x the population in this country to consider the kind of “stacking” they want.

          1. JW   12 years ago

            That Soylent isn’t going to green itself, you know.

        2. C. Anacreon   12 years ago

          why do you need a car? Just walk everywhere you need to go!

          Or bike or take public trains, as the high-density stack ‘n’ pack crowd want.
          19th Century solutions to 21st Century challenges!

          Seriously, as someone who due to a medical condition can’t really walk more than a block, it pisses me off everytime one of these assholes talks about making a new development “pedestrian friendly” so “we can get people out of their cars.” Some of us don’t have that option, so thanks for trying to make things inaccessible for us, Dystopia Dickhead. And no, I’m not going to load a wheelchair into a car, spend ten minutes getting it out and set up, then roll three blocks just to pick up a prescription at the Rite-Aid in your New Urbanism world of tomorrow. Instead, I’ll just drive much farther to somewhere they have a drugstore with a parking lot. That should help your global warming.

          1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

            Ask the next dipshit who says that — ‘Do you own a large flat screen TV? Is your pantry filled with groceries, a broad assortment of choice? I bet you walked back and forth to and fro the store twenty times to make that happen, right?

            Fucking hate those people. Wanna crush them like scags under my hot pink four wheel dune buggy.

          2. JW   12 years ago

            You’ll suffer for the collective and boy-o let me tell you, you’d better like it.

      2. Hyperion   12 years ago

        Statists would be happy to ban drugs and cars

        But they, themselves, would still need both. Because they are responsible, unlike us peasants.

        1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

          They’d only use doctors and chauffeurs with the highest credentials though. Just to be safe.

    3. some guy   12 years ago

      But, but, responsible people have legitimate uses for drugs and cars!

  9. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    London skyscraper blamed for melting cars

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Thanks for giving a direct link so we don’t have to go through 24/7.

    2. Hyperion   12 years ago

      I didn’t realize there was sun in London.

      1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

        Nor cars worth caring about.

  10. Matrix   12 years ago

    A Florida family found a sunken Spanish treasure containing gold chain, gold coins, and a gold ring, estimated to be worth $300,000.
    Party at their house!!

    1. CE   12 years ago

      Doesn’t it have to be at least a million to be considered “a treasure”? You can win 300K on a scratch-off.

    2. Mickey Rat   12 years ago

      Give my regards to the IRS.

  11. JW   12 years ago

    The London’s Walkie-Talkie skyscraper, currently under construction, melted a car.

    Those Brits never learn. They were warned not to use Dalek technology.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

      But who knew there was sun in Great Britain?

      1. Hyperion   12 years ago

        You beat me to that comment, damn you!

        1. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

          Yeah I’ll do that.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    The International Longshore and Warehouse Union severed ties with the AFL-CIO over the latter labor organization’s support for Obamacare and immigration reform.

    Will now go it alone and separately fund and vote Democrat.

  13. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    Should I cheer for Arsenal now?

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Real Madrid had to get back the money they overspent on Bale somehow.

    2. Jerry on the boat   12 years ago

      Fellaini joining United, lol.

    3. Brett L   12 years ago

      You weren’t already? Go Gooners!

  14. rts   12 years ago

    Freemen movement concerns Canadian legal communities

    Brian Alexander is a self-proclaimed Freeman-on-the-Land and one of a growing number of Canadian followers of the so-called “sovereign citizen” or “Natural Persons” movement.

    …

    Since one of the tenets of the Freeman-on-the-Land movement is an unrestricted right to possess and use firearms, they raise significant safety and security concerns,” says the bulletin, which advises lawyers who come across Freemen to take appropriate security measures.

    *sigh*

    1. Hyperion   12 years ago

      They need to use extra caution, these dangerous rogue Canuckistanians could also be high on the pot.

  15. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    Hackers find ways to hijack car computers and take control

    1. Tonio   12 years ago

      IOW, they just did a proof of concept of what could have happened to Michael Hastings.

  16. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    Taser used on 80-year-old woman in Mississauga

    1. Hyperion   12 years ago

      She was obviously resisting and officers were already upset because she didn’t have a dog.

    2. Too_Big_to_Fail   12 years ago

      http://www.wncn.com/story/2331…..ng-tasered
      Still haven’t bothered to learn how to post the cool way.

      1. Too_Big_to_Fail   12 years ago

        It’s a powerful story of one woman’s will to succeed in a man’s rape culture.

        1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

          So, the Mrs. Steve Smith Story?

          1. Bobarian   12 years ago

            There have been many “Mrs” Steve Smiths, none have survived the nuptial bliss.

    3. Rhywun   12 years ago

      Those crazy Canadians, thinking they can be just like us Americans.

  17. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    Others are using the situation to push for a reversal of defense spending cuts.

    Crisitunity!

  18. Rich   12 years ago

    The right-hander was placed on probation for one year and was ordered to speak to students about drugs.

    “Kids, don’t make my mistake. Start smokin’ that whacky weed *early*.”

    1. CE   12 years ago

      So if he was a lefty, no probation?

  19. JW   12 years ago

    CNN will be debuting its reboot of Crossfire, with…Van Jones

    Can I instead shove a hot needle into my urethra?

    1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      I remember when scum had to go into hiding and stuff. Now they get shows.

      1. JW   12 years ago

        His monorail will be the best thing to ever happen to us.

        1. LynchPin1477   12 years ago

          Well, sir, there’s nothing on earth like a genuine, bona fide, electrified, six-car monorail!

          1. BiMonSciFiCon   12 years ago

            No wonder Van Jones supports the monorail. He’s a braindead slob.

            1. Brandon   12 years ago

              He was just given a cushy job.

      2. PapayaSF   12 years ago

        Communists used to get driven out of the federal government. Now they get invited in.

        1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

          When an evil spirit comes out of a man, it goes through arid places seeking rest and does not find it. Then it says, “I will return to the house I left.” When it arrives, it finds the house swept clean and put in order. Then it goes and takes seven other spirits more wicked than itself, and they go in and live there. And the final condition of that man is worse than the first.

          Luke 11:24-26

          1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

            Whoa. That’s Nostradamus/Led Zeppelin eerie.

    2. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Nobody’s forcing you to watch it.

      1. JW   12 years ago

        You are Ted, you are, with your exuberant skepticism.

  20. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    Fish can differentiate composers, prefer Bach

    1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      Ah, Bach.

      1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

        Once you’ve said “Ah, Bach”, you’ve pretty much said it all.
        — Hawkeye Pierce

  21. Irish   12 years ago

    MSNBC is so fucking hard at the prospect of war with Syria.

    Last week on MSNBC’s All In, Chris Hayes featured a host of left-of-center hawks, including Rep. Eliot Engel (D-NY), Julia Ioffe of The New Republic, Iraqi-American writer Zainab Salbi, who called for a “long-term intervention,” Mouaz Moustafa, a representative of the Syrian rebels, and Tom Perriello of the Center for American Progress, who has argued elsewhere not just for missile strikes against Assad but for “a more aggressive posture that would potentially include regime transition.” On his show, Chris Matthews justified bombing the Assad regime by declaring that even “Hitler didn’t use” chemical weapons. The liberal network’s call to war climaxed with a stunning piece of demagoguery on Wednesday’s Last Word, when reporter Richard Engel put a 10-year-old Syrian refugee girl on camera to say, “Does [Obama] want his kids to be like us? ? When we get bigger, we’re going to write, ‘Obama didn’t help us.'”

    Two thoughts:

    1. Someone needs to tell Chris Matthews that Hitler did use chemical weapons, he just preferred using them on people who were locked up and couldn’t shoot back.

    2. We now have Nancy Pelosi’s five year old grandson and a 10 year old Syrian telling us to go to war. Liberals are about as smart as your average pre-teen.

    1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

      War. It’s for the children.

      1. Chloe   12 years ago

        We must bomb their children in order to save their children.

    2. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      Just what was Zyklon B, Chris?

      1. Chloe   12 years ago

        Obviously something made up by the Jews in order to give them an excuse to set up Israel, duh.

    3. Matrix   12 years ago

      Wow… Chris Matthews actually said that? Just when you thought he couldn’t be any dumber.

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        Matthews has proven that you can never make that assumption; he will always find a way to surprise you.

        1. Matrix   12 years ago

          I think he and Jo Biden are competing for “Biggest Moron”.

          1. Episiarch   12 years ago

            My money’s on Matthews.

          2. Andrew S.   12 years ago

            There are many more competitors than those two.

            1. some guy   12 years ago

              There are many more competitors than those two.

              Has anyone read any E.J. Dionne lately?

              1. Almanian!   12 years ago

                Haven’t had time, what with catching up on all the Matt Yglesias.

          3. Irish   12 years ago

            Biden is like a creepy uncle that your mom doesn’t want to leave you alone with. Chris Matthews is like a homeless man that killed six prostitutes.

            There’s just no comparison.

            1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

              Biden may be a complete ass, but at least he’d have the class to park a Trans-Am on the white house lawn. On blocks. Matthews will never have that kind of cachet.

            2. LynchPin1477   12 years ago

              He’s a homeless Craig James?

              1. Matrix   12 years ago

                speaking of that douchebag

      2. Zeb   12 years ago

        Well, some other moron said it last week, so it must be true. Now Chris Matthews has said it too, so it is even truer.

    4. Episiarch   12 years ago

      They’re talking “for the children” to its logical conclusion: ask the children what they want! Of course, the answer is usually “ice cream” or “a pony” so they have to do some coaching first.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        “Hey kid, say you want to increase the tax rate on top income earners to 50%, and I’ll give you a cookie.”

    5. tarran   12 years ago

      I always make major decisions based on what my kids tell me to do.

      1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

        Hey, do me a solid and tell your kids to tell you to buy me a Ferrari, would you?

        1. tarran   12 years ago

          I tried. They told me you should get a Scooty Puff Jr instead.

          1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

            I’ll trade you this quantum interphase bomb for a Scooty Puff Sr.

    6. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

      According to Goring, the reason chemical weapons weren’t used in WWII was because of Germans’ reliance on horses in their supply train and inability to come up with adequate gas masks that worked well for them.

      1. creech   12 years ago

        Still one wonders why he didn’t use them against the Russians when they reached the Oder. Hitler had to know he was a dead man walking, so why not take the chance and gas the Russkies?

        1. #   12 years ago

          Its debateable just how effective using chemical weapons really is compared to conventional ordinence.

          Half the time, you end up hitting yourselves with the wind changing direction or the gas getting shelled or dropped in your own lines.

          Plus the other side can wear gas masks.

          I think a lot of the reason why they havent been widely used is because they arent even all that effective in a lot of applications.

          1. tarran   12 years ago

            They’re pretty worthless as military weapons because they are incredibly imprecise, both in space and in time.

            Generally, when you shoot at something, you want to kill it now! A shell of mustard gas might kill some people, or it could drift harmlessly by because the wind is wrong or their targets have masks. Or maybe they get a small dose that takes hours to incapacitate them.

            Shrapnel is immediate, hard to shield against, and generally destroys stuff in the immediate area of the spot the shell was aimed at.

            So, if I am confronted with an enemy assault, I don’t want gas! They could overrun me before the gas takes effect. I want to mow them down with my artilery fire.

            If I am assaulting a position, I don’t want to run into my gas cloud! I want my guys fighting not stumbling around in chem suits.

            AS a surprise weapon, chemical weapons can be effective, but it’s so hard to get all the stars to align that you are better off letting conventional munitions take the precious volume in your supply system instead of displacing it with chemical weapons.

            1. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

              Maybe they had some particular utility as a counter to trench warfare? I’m just wondering why, otherwise, they ever found use at all.

              1. Bobarian   12 years ago

                The only utility in trench warfare was that some of the gases were heavier than air, which meant getting people to leave the trench so that you could shoot them.

            2. Bobarian   12 years ago

              About the only ‘sensible’ tactical or operational reasons to use chemicals in modern warfare is
              1. to deny your enemy something, like key terrain or a supply by using persistent agents.
              or
              2. to make him have to fight in a degraded mode; shooting a weapon with a mask on or walking ten miles in protective gear really puts a kibosh on your fighting capability.

              Chemicals are treated like obstacles or minefields; try to go around if you can.

          2. CE   12 years ago

            Poison gas was a WWI weapon. Calling it a “weapon of mass destruction” is ridiculous.

    7. grrizzly   12 years ago

      Chris Matthews is correct. Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons. Executing people in mass in concentration camps is not the same as using chemical weapons.

      1. Irish   12 years ago

        Yes, but saying ‘even Hitler didn’t use chemical weapons!’ is ludicrous when he used the same type of chemicals to murder civilians.

        Assad gassed people in the open and Hitler gassed people behind closed doors. I’m not seeing how what Assad did is worse, which is the implication behind Matthews’ statement.

        1. Drake   12 years ago

          Wasn’t the whole camp system / gas shower set up created to save soldiers the trauma of having to shoot all those people?

          He was working to save soldiers from PTSD and you have the nerve to criticize?

          1. Irish   12 years ago

            I think it was just because it was cleaner. I read a book called The Theory and Practice of Hell which is by a Holocaust survivor. He mentions that Hitler removed a concentration camp commandant from his post because the guy would just shoot Jews as they left the train and leave the corpses there.

            As a result, the camp became nearly uninhabitable for the soldiers because the diseases bred by all the corpses that weren’t picked up.

            There were stories of Nazi officers and soldiers beating Jews to death with bed pans for fun. I doubt those people would have had PTSD from shooting.

            Plus, most Jews actually were shot, not gassed. This is pointed out in a really interesting book called Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder. Far more Jews were killed by German soldiers when they liquidated Polish villages than ever died in the camps.

            1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

              I have some recollection that Hitler was a gas victim during WWI, which may have made him more reluctant to use gas. Yeah, I know, but even psychopaths have weird quirks like that.

              1. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

                I’m totally not going to say anything about certain Senators and torture.

            2. Virginian   12 years ago

              Plus, most Jews actually were shot, not gassed. This is pointed out in a really interesting book called Bloodlands by Timothy Snyder

              An excellent work, but god it’s about as depressing as you imagine it is from the title.

              But man do I love it when Stalin decides the last gang of chekists knows too much, and rounds them up and shoots them all with a new gang of chekists. Then a year later he decides he needs new cheists, and the cycle begins anew. That kind of makes me smile a bit.

        2. grrizzly   12 years ago

          I’m not saying that what Hitler did is not worse than what Assad did. Syria has signed the 1925 Geneva for the Prohibition of the Use in War of Asphyxiating, Poisonous or Other Gases, and of Bacteriological Methods of Warfare. The Protocal refers only to the use of chemical weapons in war. Nazis’ use of gas chambers was outside of the scope of the protocol. In other words there is a tradition of not including Nazis’ use of poisonous gas to execute people in concentration camps in the history of using chemical weapons.

          1. grrizzly   12 years ago

            The preview button still doesn’t work. Grrrr!

            1. SugarFree   12 years ago

              Remove your linked email or URL. You lose the orange, but gain the preview.

              1. grrizzly   12 years ago

                It works. Thanks!

          2. CE   12 years ago

            Statists always want to preserve the concentration camp option for themselves.

            1. califernian   12 years ago

              ^^THIS

              Absolutely true.

        3. Entropy Void   12 years ago

          ‘COS ASSAD HAS ALWAYS BEEN WORSE THAN HITLER!!!111!!11!11!

          WHY CAN’T YOU UNDERSTAND THAT???

      2. Almanian!   12 years ago

        Shorter griz: derp!

        1. grrizzly   12 years ago

          Instead of Chris Matthews make fun of John Kerry who said that Hitler did use chemical weapons.

    8. Slammer   12 years ago

      Syrians aren’t allowed to kill Syrians! Only WE’RE allowed to kill Syrians!!

    9. Hyperion   12 years ago

      Just to be fair to MSNBC, it’s not just them, it’s ALL the MSM. Fox News has had a perpetual war boner for weeks now.

      1. Brandon   12 years ago

        Fox News has had a perpetual war boner. for weeks now

        FTFY. War is the Cable News networks’ lifeblood. It’s the only time they get good ratings. It’s why they are so fucking statist.

        1. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

          You know, some enterprising libertarian shit-stirrer should create a fake movement to boycott companies who use Conflict Advertisements (sort of like conflict minerals, but for cable news).

    10. Slammer   12 years ago

      We need to bomb Syria…for teh childrenz

  22. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

    Debbie Wasserman-Schultz: There are “dozens” of countries who’ll help us in Syria, but I’m not allowed to tell you which ones

    1. Andrew S.   12 years ago

      If I lived a few blocks north of where I currently live, I’d be in her district.

      Sure, my representative is an establishment Republican all the way, hawkish, pro-NSA, etc. But at least he isn’t Debbie Wasserman-Schultz.

      1. Entropy Void   12 years ago

        My condolences.

    2. Generic Stranger   12 years ago

      Perhaps she meant to say “counties” after confusing them with parishes, of which I’m sure France has dozens.

    3. JW   12 years ago

      Debbie Wasserman-Schultz

      The first horse of the Apocalypse.

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        No, just the back half.

      2. C. Anacreon   12 years ago

        Why the long face?

    4. Slammer   12 years ago

      Are those countries like your “boyfriend”? Totally hot, but I can’t tell you who he is?

    5. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      Could she have meant states?

  23. Sevo   12 years ago

    “Instead, Kerry told Congress Tuesday that “this debate is about the world’s red line.” He says it is “a red line that anyone with a conscience ought to draw.””
    http://www.sfgate.com/news/pol…..783727.php

    I guess the rest of the world doesn’t have a conscience. Or, he’s a lying POS.

    1. Bam!   12 years ago

      When did The World choose Kerry to speak for them? He’s the Syrian Lorax.

    2. Raven Nation   12 years ago

      Anybody know anything about this. It reads somewhat conspiracy style but…

      http://www.globalresearch.ca/d…..ck/5347542

  24. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

    Star Twerk: Captain Kirk watches Miley Cyrus performance

    1. Episiarch   12 years ago

      FIRE PHOTON TORPEDOES MR SULU

    2. Matrix   12 years ago

      I lol’d

    3. JW   12 years ago

      STER-I-LIZE

    4. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

      I thought for sure it was going to be spliced into his watching an Orion slave girl dance.

  25. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    How NOT to move a piano.

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      “Fictitious force”, my ass!

    2. Sevo   12 years ago

      Bet his friend doesn’t ask for help moving that thing again.

  26. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

    It’s now Authoritarian vs. Libertarian. Since Democrats vs. Republicans has been obliterated, no real difference between parties?
    ? MATT DRUDGE (@DRUDGE) September 3, 2013

    1. some guy   12 years ago

      So Drudge readers lean Libertarian now? Or do they only lean Libertarian when the Democrats are in power?

      1. Hyperion   12 years ago

        The actual readers, Ron Paul won practically every online primary poll that Drudge posted.

        1. Hyperion   12 years ago

          Also, that poll for military action against Syria, on Drudge, is running something like 92% opposition.

    2. Hyperion   12 years ago

      They’re all Progressives. The final was between good and evil is Libertarians vs. Progressives.

      Shocked to hear that from Drudge though, I’ve always thought of him as a NeoCon. He supported Romney big time.

      1. Drake   12 years ago

        There are many small “l” libertarians like me – former Republicans who finally got fed up with the bullshit.

        1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

          Applies to me, as well — though I was a true-blue socialist before going Republican/conservative.

  27. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    Mike SIms-Walker looks to revitalize his career in the CFL!

  28. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    I have a phobia of penetrative sex

    asking for a friend.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Being afraid of penetration by Warty and Epi is normal.

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        Which is as it should be. Now where is Warty’s cat?

    2. SugarFree   12 years ago

      “Johnny, Are You Queer?”

      1. Ted S.   12 years ago

        “I learned it by watching you, Dad!”

    3. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

      So it’s frottage then. At least that means he can have satisfying sex while straphanging.

  29. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

    Girlfriend just doesn’t know how to stop projecting…

    This is a pretty classic example of just someone dishonestly appropriating a very serious issue in order to fluff their own, very unserious opinions. Invoking rape to make your bullshit, knee-jerk opinions seem more interesting than they are is sadly pretty common.

    Good to know that Amanda has a sense of humor about her own beliefs.

    She is talking about her own ideology there, right?

    Turns out that men who get a rise out of controlling and dominating their female partners often see the threat of unintended pregnancy as a weapon to use against them.

    Uh.

    Huh.

    1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

      Is…is she quoting the review and then attacking the book being reviewed? It would take me 20 minutes to get through Marcotte’s terrible writing, let alone then discern what her terrible opinions are.

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

        No clue. I refuse to engage my reading comprehension beyond the bare minimum necessary to mock, heh.

    2. Apatheist ?_??   12 years ago

      I’m having trouble seeing the problem with this article. The feminists she is attacking are even dumber than her.

      1. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

        Amanda’s continued droning on about “reproductive coercion” is one good place to start.

  30. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    Toronto District School Board starts school year off with a bang: One of its schools endorses Holocaust-denying, 9/11 conspiracy website and calls PM Harper a “fascist”

  31. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

    about 15 feet underwater, the Schmitt family found 64 feet of gold chain, five gold coins, and a gold ring

    Are we sure they didn’t find the site of Sean Kingston’s jet skiing accident?

  32. Matrix   12 years ago

    We need to bomb Syria because… NATIONAL SECURITY!!!

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      Kerry testified on Tuesday that failing to strike Syria … would open a “Pandora’s box” of “dangerous consequences,” leaving … U.S. enemies itching to test America’s resolve.

      “Itching”?

      1. Almanian!   12 years ago

        Since I view “not striking” as “leaving Pandora’s box CLOSED”, sounds like Kerry’s saying “I had to leave the box closed, till I decided to open it to see what….”

        I admit it – have no idea what Kerry’s saying.

    2. Andrew S.   12 years ago

      Secretary of State John Kerry testified on Tuesday that failing to strike Syria in response to a chemical weapons attack would open a “Pandora’s box” of “dangerous consequences,”

      John Kerry: This country is headed for a disaster of biblical proportions.

      Us: What do you mean, “biblical”?

      Chuck Hagel: What he means is Old Testament, real wrath of God type stuff.

      John Kerry: Exactly.

      Chuck Hagel: Fire and brimstone coming down from the skies! Rivers and seas boiling!

      Nancy Pelosi: Forty years of darkness! Earthquakes, volcanoes…

      John Boehner: The dead rising from the grave!

      John Kerry: Human sacrifice, dogs and cats living together… mass hysteria!

      1. Brandon   12 years ago

        On the plus side, 40 years of darkness would put a stop to the whole Global Warming thing.

  33. Bam!   12 years ago

    “A Florida family found a sunken Spanish treasure containing gold chain, gold coins, and a gold ring, estimated to be worth $300,000.”

    Are they sure it’s not something a diving company setup as a tourist photo op?

  34. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

    Your afternoon stupid

    2 years ago: Rich dominionists in an age of hypocrisy
    For those who would maintain that the theonomists have never had any significant influence, I would point out here that one of their long-term aims has been to replace the words “rich” or “wealthy” with the more virtuous-sounding word “productive.” Judge for yourself, in 2011, whether or not their desired influence has been influential on that score.

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

      Complementarians see women and ‘gag’

      For these folks, men’s authority over women and women’s submission to that authority is a central, essential keystone to their whole understanding of Christianity. Take it away and everything falls apart.

    2. Ted S.   12 years ago

      It’s possible to be rich without being productive. Look at our political class.

      1. Zeb   12 years ago

        And to be productive without being rich. Most people with jobs that are not in the public sector or rent seeking industry are productive.

  35. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

    Enjoy this LGBT Anthem Playlist

    I have to say that I don’t like “Same Love”. Not because Macklemore is straight, but because it’s just fucking sappy and pretentious, two qualities that are nearly always fatal to good pop music, unless you’re Kanye West. So, I thought it would be fun to crowd source plus dig through my own brain to come up with a playlist of songs by LGBT artists that, either through their lyrics or just general intensity or both, make excellent gay liberation anthems.

    Hell no.

    1. Ted S.   12 years ago

      Wouldn’t it be far easier just to take the soundtrack from Priscilla, Queen of the Desert?

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

        Or Andrew Lloyd Weber’s Cats.

    2. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

      Well, I agree with the first part. Way too earnest and preachy to be tolerable.

  36. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

    Your afternoon leftist projection

    Postcards from the culture wars (9.3)
    “I think prescribed order is so important to many Christians because they fear freedom. They don’t trust themselves or others to do the right thing without strict rules to follow. I believe some of those in religious and political power take advantage of this anxiety and use it as a control mechanism.”

    1. Matrix   12 years ago

      and progs don’t think people will do the right thing without a million laws and stealing from productive members of society to give to leeches?

    2. Neoliberal Kochtopus   12 years ago

      I like how her sources are Gawker, ThinkProgress, RawStory, Salon, Crooks&Liars; and a smattering of Proggie Blogs.

      STEP AWAY FROM THE ECHO CHAMBER

    3. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

      On the other hand, looking at the list of progressive commandments…

      1. Thou shalt put the State before anything and everything, include your beliefs.
      2. The government might just be something built by humans, but it still deserves your worship.
      3. Feel free to pay lip service to your deity of choice, but don’t actually follow that deity’s teachings, unless you’re some kind of extremist nutjob.
      4. Every day you have belongs to the State, comrade.
      5. The family is an archaic bourgeois institution. It takes a government to raise a child and educate them while mitigating inequality of learning ability through drudgery.

      1. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

        6. Murder is terrible, and people should go to prison for at least 3 or 4 years for taking a life. War is also terrible, unless it is overseen by progressive leaders, or is waged against the unfashionable, or progressives need a distraction from a political scandal.
        7. Sexual behavior is your own business. People should ignore the sexual pecadillos of other people, e.g. their spouses, their children’s lover, etc., unless that person is a Republican.
        8. There is no more fundamental form of justice than the redistribution of wealth, from the haves (people who have it) to the have-nots (people who want it).
        9. An obsessive adherence to facts, statistics, and objective measures of truth is the symptom of logic, and a patriarchal mindset. The narrative truth is more important than the factual truth. Therefore, if the facts of reality do not condemn our enemies, you must create new facts corresponding to a better reality. All people were born with this amazing ability, and you should fully utilize it.
        10. Remember that those who have more than you are wicked and terrible. Why should this man have a better car, or a larger house, or a more attractive wife than you?

  37. Archduke Trousersenthusiast   12 years ago

    This 5 year old has already done more than you ever will.

    1. Drake   12 years ago

      How many comments does the little bastard have at Reason?

    2. Rich   12 years ago

      [His father] forced the five-year-old to run naked in the snow.

      Where the fuck is CPS?

      1. T   12 years ago

        Inside, where it’s warm.

  38. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

    Women’s morphing need for male investment.
    In a previous post I discussed the importance of male investment in women’s intrasexual status competition. This investment can range from the validation which comes from being selected for a one one time hookup, all the way to the very public declaration of lifetime investment which marriage signals. This post picks up where the last one left off, so if you haven’t already read the previous post I would encourage you to do so before continuing with this one.

    The previous post explained the basic reality of women’s need for male investment in their status competition with other women. However, this still leaves the question of why women make different choices as they age.

    It is important to remember that the desire for male investment isn’t the only force at work here. In the previous post I described how the desire for investment both complements and competes with the desire for “the tingle”. Another factor we need to always keep in mind is the realities of the Sexual Marketplace (SMP) and how men’s and women’s Sexual Market Value (SMV) change with age. …

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      Mmm hmmm…..did you say something, sweetie?

      1. Hyperion   12 years ago

        Why doesn’t she go bake us a nice turkey pot pie, was my thought after reading that fluff.

  39. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

    Proving that Yglesias isn’t the only Slate writer who is economically illiterate…

    Women are taking on the necessary if unglamorous work of handling a massive number of patients who need basic doctoring, and their reward for doing what needs to be done is to get paid significantly less than their male counterparts, who are more likely to join more lucrative, specialized fields.

    Instead of looking at this as an issue of simply getting more women into higher-paid specialist jobs, we should also have a national conversation about why we don’t value primary care physicians and pediatricians enough[…]

    Regardless of how we tackle this problem, the fact remains that we have an opportunity to both improve the health care system and strike a blow for more gender equality, all at once. So what are we waiting for?

    We’re probably waiting until we pay off at least part of this last “improvement” to the healthcare system before we implement your stroke of genius, you dumb bimbo.

    1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

      Link: http://www.slate.com/blogs/xx_…..owing.html

      1. Brandon   12 years ago

        That’s ok, you can keep the link.

    2. Irish   12 years ago

      Instead of looking at this as an issue of simply getting more women into higher-paid specialist jobs, we should also have a national conversation about why we don’t value primary care physicians and pediatricians enough

      Because they require less skill and more people are capable of doing those jobs. Being a specialist requires you to learn everything a primary doctor probably knows while also learning about your specialty.

      There. Conversation over.

      1. Emmerson Biggins   12 years ago

        Or: Is your doctor a woman? If not then shut up. If yes then mail her a check and then shut up.

    3. Zeb   12 years ago

      get paid significantly less than their male counterparts, who are more likely to join more lucrative, specialized fields

      Sounds like it is a problem with the women in medicine, no? How is it the fault of men or of society in general if women don’t choose to go into the higher paying specializations?

    4. C. Anacreon   12 years ago

      And, young lady, any effort to implement your solution won’t get more internists and pediatricians higher pay, it will be lower pay for specialists until every doc is paid at the same civil service level. What are we waiting for?

    5. califernian   12 years ago

      Whenever someone uses the phrase “national conversation” you can be assured what they really mean is “tyranny”

  40. some guy   12 years ago

    A Detroit resident let the city’s tax department keep her $500 refund, and the tax department insisted she actually owed more than $5,000 in response. The resident, an accountant, eventually found the city actually owed her an additional $416 in refunds.

    Rule #1 of interacting with the government is to not bring attention to yourself unless absolutely necessary. She broke Rule #1 and paid the price.

    1. Matrix   12 years ago

      And then the city decided it expanded so many resources with it’s investigation, that she now owes them $300,000 because of it.

  41. Derpetologist   12 years ago

    Peter Schiff vs. an MSLSD hydra

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzVxmwxHRQg

    1. Killazontherun   12 years ago

      What are the odds Professor Smith is at all familiar with the Cantillon Effect? He dances around it like a blind man describing an elephant.

  42. Coeus   12 years ago

    Feminist finds a nut, discards it because, patriarchy.

    new research published … shows that it’s actually getting worse between male and female doctors, as well as among other health care workers. In the 1980s, male doctors made about 20 percent more than their female counterparts, but now that number has ballooned to 25 percent, making the gap in real dollars more than $50,000 a year. For those eager to blame this on women’s “choices” and not on discrimination, I have bad news: The study controlled for hours worked and years of experience.

    But as Sarah Kliff of the Washington Post explains, the difference in what kind of medicine female and male doctors practice may play a major role. Men dominate the ranks of surgeons, radiologists, and other high-paid specialties, whereas women are more likely to become family care doctors or pediatricians. The researchers couldn’t say why this is but suggested it could be a matter of preference or discrimination?or some combination of the two?and called for more research to get to the bottom of this conundrum.

    Instead of looking at this as an issue of simply getting more women into higher-paid specialist jobs, we should also have a national conversation about why we don’t value primary care physicians and pediatricians enough.

    Umm…

    1. Irish   12 years ago

      For those eager to blame this on women’s “choices” and not on discrimination, I have bad news: The study controlled for hours worked and years of experience.

      But as Sarah Kliff of the Washington Post explains, the difference in what kind of medicine female and male doctors practice may play a major role.

      So it clearly is based on women’s choices, just about what type of medicine they practice. Holy shit this is stupid.

      1. Matrix   12 years ago

        Pretty much. If any man is making more money than any woman, then it obviously means we just don’t value women as much.

      2. JW   12 years ago

        Choice is good only until it delivers a sub-optimal solution.

    2. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

      Instead of looking at this as an issue of simply getting more women into higher-paid specialist jobs, we should also have a national conversation about why we don’t value primary care physicians and pediatricians enough.

      I’m going to become a spandex clad superhero who goes around shooting anyone who utters the words “national conversation”. Is anyone ever fooled that the term doesn’t mean “we tell the nation what to think and they STFU”?

      1. Matrix   12 years ago

        Here are some other things you should add:
        patriarchy
        priviledge
        rape culture

        Feel free to add more.

        1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

          Matrix, I have to deal w/ the ammo shortage as it is.

          1. Matrix   12 years ago

            that’s why you recycle the bullets. Dig ’em out of the idiots you gun down. Besides, doing it that way means they can’t match the bullet to your gun.

    3. Zombie Jimbo   12 years ago

      Does, “Make me a sandwich.” count as a national conversation?

    4. Zeb   12 years ago

      why we don’t value primary care physicians and pediatricians enough.

      Immediately jump from makes less than other specialties to not valued enough. Who says they are not valued enough? As far as I can tell, general practice physicians still make a pretty good living doing something that most are obviously fairly passionate about.

      Also, nowadays, general practitioners aren’t as valuable as surgeons and specialists. They don’t do shit except write prescriptions, ask annoying questions, refer you to specialists and occasionally stick things up your ass.

      1. Entropy Void   12 years ago

        … and ask if you own any guns …

    5. Blueman   12 years ago

      “national conversation”

      This phrase, like “national dialogue”, just rubs me the wrong way. WTF does that even mean, really?

      1. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

        It means, “we should ‘talk’ about this, and by talk I mean, ‘you should shut up and listen.'”

    6. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

      This can’t be true! My whole house of cards depends on blaming patriarchy!

  43. Derpetologist   12 years ago

    Krugman’s finest moment:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fexz8Ij-OBQ

  44. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

    “More driveling economic illiteracy? Well, sure we can print it — it’s not like we’re a reputable magazine or anything!”

    Putting the “labor” back in Labor Day, fast food workers across the country have gone on strike, demanding better wages and calling for the minimum wage to be raised from $7.25 an hour to $15 an hour.

    Conservative politicians are always hammering on about how working class mothers, especially single mothers, need to pull themselves up by their bootstraps and fight for better lives for themselves and their families. Well, that’s exactly what they are doing.

    Yes, I’ve heard lots about how good unemployment is for workers…

    1. Derpetologist   12 years ago

      I once asked a prog that if the minimum wage is raised to $10/hr, what do you think will happen to all the the $9/hr jobs.

      His answer? They’ll become $10/hr jobs.

      It’s incredible how so many of them are unable to understand that if you make it more expensive to hire people, fewer people will get hired.

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        It’s because part of their core worldview is that companies have literally bottomless coffers, and hold on to that greedily while treating their employees like shit, which is one reason they hate them so much. It’s moronic, but it allows them to hate and that’s one of their primary goals.

      2. thom   12 years ago

        If this logic worked, you could just take the GDP, divide that by the number of people in the workforce, divide that by 2080, and set that as the minimum wage.

        Perfect income equality.

        1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

          Why stop there? We can pay them with future money and inflation money. There’s no limit!

    2. Matrix   12 years ago

      There are jobs that pay $25k/year and require a bachelor’s degree. That’s a little more than $12.50/hr. Now, imagine you have someone like that, pretty dedicated and probably works long hours. Then you have some pimple faced kid straight out of high school, probably a flake, comes in late or calls in because he partied too hard the night before. Then perhaps you have some 30 year old woman with 5 kids by 5 different men, and she has a serious attitude problem and does the bare minimum to get by, often late, and always bitching about something.

      Which of those folks would get that new $15/hr fry cook or chasier job?

      1. Andrew S.   12 years ago

        The women. The other two have male privilege, and that’s not good.

  45. Coeus   12 years ago

    New research shows men feel insecure when their female partners succeed.

    The researchers also found that women felt optimistic about the future of their relationships when a partner had a success, and men felt pessimistic. This, the authors of the study speculate, is related to the sexist belief that a man must always be the stronger partner, leading men to possibly fear that their female partners will want to trade up for someone better. (It would be interesting to see a similar study of gay couples.)

    Because, that never happens, right?

    1. Longtorso, Johnny   12 years ago

      Hypergamy (colloquially referred to as “marrying up”) is the act or practice of marrying a spouse of higher caste or status than oneself.[1]

      The term is often used more specifically in reference to a perceived tendency among human cultures for females to seek or be encouraged to pursue male suitors that are higher status than themselves, which often manifests itself as being attracted to men who are comparatively older, wealthier or otherwise more privileged than themselves or their current partners.[2] According to economists, females have evolved a preference for higher status males because they offer their prospective children both better genes and greater resources, e.g. food and security. Men, who invest less in their children, have less reason to prefer mates with high social status. Some have even argued that males “marry-down” to ensure that their mates have a higher incentive to remain faithful.[3]

      1. Fatty Bolger   12 years ago

        They don’t “marry down.” They simply value different attributes.

        1. Coeus   12 years ago

          +1 social proof

        2. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

          Yes. A voluntary agreement between two parties necessarily means that both parties think they are better off with the agreement than they were in the absence of said agreement.

    2. Tejicano   12 years ago

      I dunno. It never bothered me when my wife was making more than I did. Even though she was much further behind me in her career and less educated she is smart and organized and made the right connections. Her additional salary allowed us to save up and buy property which has made a big difference in our lives.

      She knows I am an alpha in some ways like nobody else she has ever known so I don’t have any reason to be insecure.

  46. Jerry on the boat   12 years ago

    The resident, an accountant, eventually found the city actually owed her an additional $416 in refunds.

    F#ck you, pay me.

  47. SugarFree   12 years ago

    I have a solution: Sell the ugly one, you ninnies.

    1. Episiarch   12 years ago

      I’m impressed, NutraSweet. You managed to post a link to an article as inane as the other links to idiots that get posted here. Congratulations, you’re retarded.

      1. SugarFree   12 years ago

        Your teh retard, ratard!

        1. Episiarch   12 years ago

          I’m going to have to ask ProL for a translation of this. He’s almost as retarded as you, he can probably figure it out.

          1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

            If I’m retarded, you’re detarted.

            1. Episiarch   12 years ago

              Way to go and prove my point, ProL. You and NutraSweet are really making it easy for me today, him with his pregnancy fixation and you with your susceptibility to Charlie’s lies.

              1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                Right, Charlie could out-think Wonka himself. That’s a theory? Your powers are weak, old man.

                1. Episiarch   12 years ago

                  Charlie is an android from beyond Pluto, you nincompoop. He can out-think the most advanced calculators we have.

                  1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                    I’m not talking to someone who denies Wonka’s supremacy.

                    1. JW   12 years ago

                      ProL, you disappoint me.

                      You’re supposed to finish it with YOU GET NOTHING! YOU LOSE! GOOD DAY SIR!

                    2. Episiarch   12 years ago

                      You shouldn’t talk to him, JW. You might get retard on you.

                    3. JW   12 years ago

                      Oh great. Now I have detard on me!

                    4. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

                      I’m too pissed about the unavailability of the Scrumdiddlyumptious bars to sit around wasting my time with you people.

    2. Zeb   12 years ago

      What the fuck? So they spend years on fertility treatments and then complain about it working too well?

    3. Generic Stranger   12 years ago

      I’m a twin. My parents didn’t know that one of us was coming until my brother had been born and the doctor realized my mother was still pregnant.

      At least these fucking retards have advanced warning.

      Also, protip: Fertility treatments greatly increase the chance of having twins. These two should have known that.

  48. MJGreen   12 years ago

    No one seems to have mentioned it, so for those who don’t know (and aren’t heartless bastards unmoved by his works): Hayao Miyazaki will retire from animated feature films, for real this time.

  49. thom   12 years ago

    this Monday instead of next Monday as scheduled

    On a Tuesday, this Monday and next Monday are the same day.

    1. Zeb   12 years ago

      I thought this Monday was yesterday.

  50. Coeus   12 years ago

    More stupid in the comments than you can shake a stick at:

    After Omo-Osagie attempted to murder her, she sued state and local police officials claiming that they failed to enforce the order of protection because she was merely a woman involved in a “‘messy divorce.'” Last week, Chief Judge Frank Easterbrook of the Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals decided against her, writing that her “complaint inadequately allege[d] sex discrimination.”

    Seriously, the comments are retarded.

  51. Coeus   12 years ago

    Karma’s a bitch, ain’t it?

    A 27-year-old man named Richard Thomas collapsed in terror when police informed him that the woman he admitted to raping was HIV-positive. According to a BBC report, Thomas is currently waiting for his own test results to return.

    Thomas had by his own admission taken alcohol, Ecstasy and cocaine on the night when he broke into the Greater Manchester, U.K. home of his victim. The woman had taken a sleeping pill and only woke up when Thomas had already penetrated her from behind.

    1. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      Man, long way from The Waltons, huh?

      1. Coeus   12 years ago

        You’ve apparently never seen the uncut dvd version.

        1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

          Uncut, huh? Circumcision thread imminent…

        2. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

          A gritty reboot of The Waltons is coming, isn’t it?

  52. Cytotoxic   12 years ago

    Forbes has an interesting article about the transformation of Texas and the state GOP. Contrary to what nativist neurotics and hopeful proglodytes would believe, as Texas has become more Latino it has also become more Republican. The key is that the Texas GOP pulled its head out of its ass and stopped needlessly alienating Spics. Maybe the national party can learn.

    http://www.forbes.com/sites/ra…..-in-texas/

    1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

      Well, of course. It’s all about how each state integrates its immigrant population; Texas offers very few welfare incentives for immigrants and thus doesn’t have the same toxic political culture among that population that places like CA have.

  53. Derpetologist   12 years ago

    It’s Team Red porn, but I laughed:

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7lqypbNMc8

  54. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

    “the Schmitt family found 64 feet of gold chain”

    Call Godzilla – they found his gold necklace!

    1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

      Alternate joke: Run-DMC was wondering where it wen!

      1. Eduard van Haalen   12 years ago

        went

      2. Mad Scientist   12 years ago

        Or Mr. T.

    2. db   12 years ago

      With a purposeful grimace and a terrible sound
      He pulls the spitting high-tension wires down

      Helpless people on subway trains
      Scream “my God!” as he takes their gold chains

      …
      oh no! They say he’s got to go
      Go, go, Godzilla!
      Oh, no! Robbing Tokyo
      Go, go Godzilla!

  55. Derpetologist   12 years ago

    The 3 stages of jihad:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ERou_Q5l9Gw

  56. Killazontherun   12 years ago

    Ohio man who threatened police holds ‘idiot’ sign

    http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/s…..DIOT_SIGN?

    A judge had ordered 58-year-old Richard Dameron to stand outside a local police station with a sign bearing an apology. He began the vigil Monday and must stand outside for three hours each day for the rest of the week.

    Dameron was convicted of threatening officers in 911 calls.

    His public shaming isn’t the first of its kind in the city. The Cleveland judge who sentenced Dameron previously made a woman wear an “idiot” sign in public for driving around a school bus.

    This judge sounds like a frustrated artist. Creative punishments should be banned, wait I recall something about . . . cruel and unusual?

    1. Derpetologist   12 years ago

      I read about a guy who was charged with playing music too loud. The judge gave him a choice between paying a $100 fine or spending 4 hours listening to polka.

      http://lubbockonline.com/stori…..1084.shtml

  57. Episiarch   12 years ago

    And here we have the continuing saga of Vodka Samm.

    1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

      20 year old me from the past approves…

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        The fact that she just totally owns it is what makes it fun.

        1. JW   12 years ago

          A buddy of mine manages a bar that has a bar full of her type every weekend. He always interesting stories.

          1. JW   12 years ago

            He actually uses prepositions, too.

            1. The Immaculate Trouser   12 years ago

              But does he get propositioned while putting prepositions in their proper position?

    2. Irish   12 years ago

      This comment is great.

    3. Pro Libertate   12 years ago

      I bet she banged that cop.

    4. Killazontherun   12 years ago

      There is an ugly undercurrent in those comments from people who want her to experience some kind of cosmic justice for sticking her middle finger at their god/society/ideals with her lifestyle. It’s both direct (‘that tart’s tawdry behavior! Hope she gets what’s comin’ her way.’) and in the form of concern trolling (‘Poor dear! Crying for help! I hope she gets help.’). They would rather their idea of justice be meted on a party girl more than some scum motherfucker they elected to high office. I hope she lives to ninety and does it blitzed and never letting up on the peddle once. A less suicidal Hunter Thompson.

      1. Episiarch   12 years ago

        Yeah, that’s why I don’t read the comments.

      2. JW   12 years ago

        What are you? Some kind of junkie faggot? You probably got busted, shirtless, on COPS.

        Live and let live seems to be a vanishing philosophy.

  58. Killazontherun   12 years ago

    83 year old pussy magnet:

    http://www.wwtdd.com/2013/09/c…..an-at-lax/

  59. Death Rock and Skull   12 years ago

    Broke ass Spain is going to do every shitty thing it can to take that guy’s property.

  60. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    Last week I caught a 16″ largemouth bass on 4 lb. line with no leader. That is all.

    1. lap83   12 years ago

      Nice. Where did you fish?

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Lake Champlain

  61. SeaCaptain(Yokeltarian)   12 years ago

    “The International Longshore and Warehouse Union severed ties with the AFL-CIO over the latter labor organization’s support for Obamacare and immigration reform”

    There’s my guys!

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