Police Departments Taking DHS Tanks and Gear "Are Building a Domestic Army," Warns Retired Marine Colonel


Concord, New Hampshire, officials are still debating the wisdom and public saleability of taking Department of Homeland Security money to acquire a Bearcat armored vehicle for the local police department, as noted last month by Brian Doherty. As part of the application to DHS justifying the need for what has been called, only a bit hyperbolically, a tank, the police department warned of challenges it faced in the form of "Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire." Sounding off at a public hearing on the issue, retired Marine Corps Colonel Peter Martino picked up on that sort of message and cautioned, "We're building a domestic army…because the government is afraid of its own citizens."
Martino pointed, too, to other standardized equipment supplied to police departments by DHS and identical to the gear he used in combat zones, except for the color.
From Free Keene:
"We're building a domestic army" – In this video by Bikerbill, a Marine Corps Colonel named Peter Martino speaks out against police militarization at the Concord BEARCAT hearing:
Says Martino, "the last time more than ten terrorists were in the same place at one time was September 11, and all these vehicles in the world wouldn't have prevented it, nor would it have helped anybody."
With regard to the DHS funds, he closed with, "my wife always told my kids, there's always free cheese in the mousetrap."
Free Keene notes that this is apparently the same Peter Martino who was a whistleblower in a case involving fraud in ArmorGroup International's bid to provide security for the U.S. embassy in Kabul, Afghanistan.
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I think we all know the lesson taught by this citizen meddling in Homeland security business:
No More Public Meetings.
DHS = Department of Handing Shit out.
When will Reason learn and stop taking the side of terrorists!?
When the editors get their own M113s for the morning commute?
It's not a tank. It has WHEELS.
"Mr. Mayor, we cannot allow an armored personnel carrier gap!"
No more public meetings. They'll see the big board!
I'm stealing that line.
OT: the best laugh I've had in weeks. I think this was supposed to be a deep, serious article though:
http://www.nytimes.com/2013/08.....d=all&_r=0
He was tall and Slavic, looking like Pete Sampras with a beard. He played bass guitar and made hummus from scratch. He believed in love and austerity: only one pair of jeans, one old Ramones T-shirt. And no sex for a year.
If only there were comments.
Yeah smashing chickpeas is quite a talent.
". . . DHS justifying the need for what has been called, only a bit hyperbolically, a tank . . . "
Uh, no - a lot hyperbolically. You know how we talk about how smoking and transfat banners and AGW proponents talk a lot of bullshit when they overstate their case? This is the same sort of thing. Remember when we made fun of the guys who couldn't tell an assault 'weapon' from and assault 'rifle'?
I'm not saying they need an APC, I'm not saying that there's no danger to taking federal money to get the APC, I'm just saying that a tiny APC is *not* anywhere the same thing as a tank.
Yes - Real tanks are a whole different league - so nassive and dense it's like they have their own gravitational field.
I wish they were handing out real tanks. The city couldn't afford the fuel and maintenance to move it.
Absolutely! I had to look up the weight in three different places when someone told me that a Tiger tank (WW II) weighed almost 70 tons because I didn't believe them. Seriously 140,000 pounds? By the way the Abrams is actually slightly lighter than that.
Depends on the Abrams version - some of the upgraded versions have uranium layer into the armor and are well over 70 tons. The ground really does shake when they drive by.
Looks like someone needs to start developing some anti tank ammunition.
http://www.Global-Anon.com
I'll just 3D print a real tank, then try to figure out how to put it together, to stop this mini-APC.
"As part of the application to DHS justifying the need for what has been called, only a bit hyperbolically, a tank, the police department warned of challenges it faced in the form of "Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire."
The police department wants to go after the Free Staters and the Occupy Wall Street people like the Egyptian army went after the Muslim Brotherhood--and they admit it in public?!
We've really gone over the deep end in this country. Seriously, it's about time to panic.
Hey! Terrorists could hit Concord, New Hampshire any minute!
Don't worry, there are plenty of overpasses there, I'm sure.
Dude sounds like he knows what he's talking about.
"As part of the application to DHS justifying the need for what has been called, only a bit hyperbolically, a tank, the police department warned of challenges it faced in the form of "Groups such as the Sovereign Citizens, Free Staters and Occupy New Hampshire."
Just as a publicity stunt, you know what the Free Staters should do?
They should submit an application to DHS requesting an armored personnel carrier of their own, and they should justify it by saying that the local police are trying to acquire similar equipment--and they have good reason to believe the police are plotting against them.
That's what you get when you choose an animal that fires projectiles as your logo.
ahh hell! I just googled "free state" to see what the animal was! Now I am on a list for sure! My only consolation is that at least now somebody will read my posts.
DuckDuckGo dude. Internet Explorer is so....90's man.
Why even bother testifying before these Nazis? Just start the recall petitions.
Why does "a Marine Corps Colonel named Peter Martino" want the terrorists to win? Where has sanity gone, that the pepples does not rise up against the greedy capitalist oppressors, and make us ALL realize, quite simply, that Government Almighty Doth Loveth Us Alleth?
Pay no attention to the dangerous wacko bird. Watch this beer commercial.
Way back in the late 80's or early 90's I lived in Colorado Springs. (Actually I grew up there, but the 80's and 90's is the time period I am talking about.) Back then the population was probably around 500k. And the police had a helicopter! It was always buzzing around at night, loudly disturbing the peace, and I remember wondering "Why the hell does this little burg need a police copter?"
That was before 9/11 and the DHS arming every Podunk little town. Now places that don't even have a stop light have APCs and SWAT teams...Land of the Free and Home of the Brave my ass.
P.S. I recently read that the city has turned off some street lights and stopped some bus routes due to budget problems; what do you want to bet that the copter is still flying?
Cops shooting dogs now have tanks.
This will end well.
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Anymore outbreaks of cheering and I'll ask the sheriff to clear the room and have all you peasants herded into the slammer. Luckily, our deputies are equipped with exactly the kind of military attire and weapons required to accomplish that task.
like elsasaul5 said, there plenty of free cheese to go around. Don't worry about the mousetrap.