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Peter King: Rand Paul Is Like That Hitler-Appeasing Charles Lindbergh. Also, 'every dollar' of Hurricane Sandy Relief 'was accounted for'

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Terrorist-supporting conservative uberhawk Rep. Peter King (R-New York), sounding very much like a man feeling left out of the Chris Christie vs. Rand Paul story, played the McCainesque America-Firster card against Paul Wednesday on CNN:

[W]hat this reminds me of, someone like Senator Paul and others in that isolationist wing—now, the Republicans had this debate back in the 1930s when you had the isolationists and the Charles Lindberghs that said we should appease Hitler. And the Democrats had it in the 1960s when the anti-war movement blamed America first. And in both cases, it hurt the party for years. Each party was hurt for years.

I'm afraid that's what Senator Paul is going to do with us. He wants to retreat from the world, he wants to isolate ourselves, go back to a fortress America. […]

[T]he so-called principles of Senator Paul and Senator Cruz, that's an isolationist trend which will damage our country tremendously. […]

And what Governor Christie and I—what we believe in, we realize al Qaeda is the enemy. We realize that there's a terrorist movement out there to kill us and we have to maintain our security and we're not going to pander and stoke up fears of paranoia the way he's been doing by talking about spying and snooping, which was only in his mind. […]

This is a fringe. This is an isolationist wing of the party, which I thought that we rejected with Charles Lindbergh back in the late 1930s and early '40s.

Re: the spying and snooping that are allegedly "only in" Rand Paul's "mind," the same day King was shooting his singularly unimpressive yap off on television, McClatchy was reporting this:

National Security Agency officials violated secret federal court orders authorizing the daily collection of domestic email and telephone data from hundreds of millions of Americans, according to previously top-secret documents made public Wednesday by the Obama administration.

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The Lindbergh analogy, too, falls apart with a moment's reflection:

* Lindbergh in April 1939—a half year after Hitler dismembered democratic Czechoslovakia—wrote in his diary that Germany "has pursued the only consistent policy in Europe in recent years," and that "The question of right and wrong is one thing by law and another thing by history." I do not recall Rand Paul issuing apologia on behalf of an expansionist aggressor state against a peaceful western ally.

* In November 1939, Lindbergh wrote a Reader's Digest article stressing that aviation is "one of those priceless possessions which permit the White race to live at all in a pressing sea of Yellow, Black, and Brown," and warned that entering World War II would lead to "racial decline," the "infiltration of inferior blood," the "dilution by foreign races," and ultimately "racial suicide." Rand Paul to this point in his career has not expressed an active interest in eugenics. 

* In September 1941, Lindbergh famously said of Jews, "The greatest danger to this country lies in their large ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio and our government." Sen. Paul has demonstrated no similar concern about The Jewish Problem.

A persistent if under-acknowledged problem with the hawks' robotic insult of calling their non-hawk political opponents Hitler-appeasers is that in the Year of Our Lord 2013, THERE IS NO ADOLF HITLER. Look around the world for a dictator busy gobbling  up countries, massing globally competitive armies and armaments, rounding up ethnic and religious minorities in camps, and bullying the democratic West to negotiating tables where weaker nation-states are cashed in like poker chips. He doesn't exist.

It's not that bringing Hitler into the discussion is some kind of taboo, it's that it's some kind of thousand-proof stoopid. And it's a telling indication of just how far the once proudly intellectual neoconservative tradition has slipped into anti-intellectualism.

Perhaps even funnier than Rep. King's feeble Hitler/Lindbergh slap was his laugh-out-loud defense of federal Hurricane Sandy spending:

There was no pork. Every dollar was accounted for. […]

And when he talks about Governor Christie and me and others who fought hard to get the aid that we needed—this was a natural disaster and yet every dollar was accounted for. He just perpetuates this big lie, talking about pork and somehow trying to demean Governor Christie when he fought so hard for the state or me because I fought so hard for mine—when he had every dollar accounted for and will be accounted for.

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Federal Sandy relief—which amounted to $60.2 billion, or almost the exact same amount as the Department of Homeland Security's 2012 budget—included this unlovely line item:

For an additional amount for "Community Development Fund", $16,000,000,000, to remain available until September 30, 2017, for necessary expenses related to disaster relief, long-term recovery, restoration of infrastructure and housing, and economic revitalization in the most impacted and distressed areas resulting from a major disaster declared pursuant to the Robert T. Stafford Disaster Relief and Emergency Assistance Act (42 U.S.C. 5121 et  seq.) due to Hurricane Sandy and other eligible events in calendar years 2011, 2012, and 2013, for activities authorized under title I of the Housing and Community Development Act of 1974 (42 U.S.C. 5301 et seq.):

Emphasis mine. In English, that's $16 billion, or about as much money as the United States Postal Service lost last year, for disasters that had nothing to do with Hurricane Sandy. Let's see, what's a handy term to describe spending projects in far-flung congressional districts having nothing whatsoever to do with the purpose of the underlying legislation?

I'll say it again: Show me a blank-check interventionist in foreign policy, and I'll show you a blank-check interventionist on domestic. Rand Paul and the libertarian-leaning Republicans are exposing the GOP status quo for what it has long been: Divorced from limited-government principles, and accustomed to shutting down debate by screaming "HITLER!" To gain traction in this fight, hawks are going to have to do much better than trotting out hacks like Peter King.

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  1. This guy actively supported the IRA out of some kind of fucked up idea of ‘freedom’ and worse.

    Yet he had a total meltdown over 9/11 when terrorists showed him what indiscriminate civilian murder looks like up close.

    Uberhawk? Nah, intellectually bankrupt statist trash.

  2. Why is there a picture of Leonid Brezhnev for this article?

    1. Damn – I will think that every time I see King from now on.

    2. I think someone else pointed out that he looks like Walternate

      1. Yeah I get a jonesing to watch Fringe every time I see him. Can somebody just photoshop some redvines into his pictures?

  3. played the McCainesque America-Firster card against Paul Wednesday on CNN:

    Anyone else read that as “America-Fister” the first time?

    1. I read as “America First Commie” the first time.

      1. I guess I just have a dirty mind.

  4. Noun-Verb-Sandy = new 9/11?

    There’s literally no point in reading the news anymore; it’s all the same recycled bullshit, just with different people; ie, Christie is the new Guilianni.

    1. (takes deep breath)

      9/11 Sandy Hitler for the children why do you hate America so much if only one life is saved it will all have been worth it the Constitution is not a suicide pact.

      1. *sniffles* No roadz?

      2. I get Sandy and Sandy Hook mixed up.

        1. I think they’re interchangeable for the most part.

        2. Sandi took a shit on Sandy and Sandy Hook once.

          hth

  5. Every dollar was accounted for.

    It’s simply that “Other” happens to be a rather large category.

  6. Why does not wanting to fuck with other countries terrify the shit out of people like King? Why does it scare them so much?

    1. Have you ever tried to rub a war boner out?

      Well, me neither, but I bet it’s horrible.

      1. What if it takes more than four hours?

        1. Why do you think we have nukes?

          1. Professor Terguson: You remember that thing we had about 30 years ago called the Korean conflict? And how we failed to achieve victory? How come we didn’t cross the 38th parallel and push those rice-eaters back to the Great Wall of China?

            Professor Terguson: [rips a desk apart] Then take the fucking wall apart brick by brick and nuke them back into the fucking stone age forever? Tell me why! How come? Say it! Say it!

            Thornton Melon: [incensed] All right. I’ll say it. ‘Cause Truman was too much of a pussy wimp to let MacArthur go in there and blow out those Commie bastards!

            Professor Terguson: Good answer. Good answer. I like the way you think. I’m gonna be watching you.

            Thornton Melon: [chuckling to his classmates] Good teacher. He really seems to care. About what I have no idea.

            1. Amazing that I vaguely remember this scene; gonna have to watch it again this weekend.

              Also, what is it about cocaine that makes for good comedians?

              1. It’s cocaine, and is therefore awesome?

                1. I like the way you think.

                2. What’s that movie with Pesci and Dangerfield where they do all the drugs?

                  That shit is hilarious.

                  1. It was Easy Money.

                    “Hey, why don’t you put your heads together and make an ass out of yourselves?”

                    (to a bald guy standing next to a bald mannequin)

                  2. Easy Money

                    Dang, I used to have it on VHS, the tracking brought back memories.

  7. From Wikipedia:

    “[King] also called the PIRA “the legitimate voice of occupied Ireland”[32] although the Social Democratic and Labour Party (SDLP), which opposed all violence and spoke for most of Northern Ireland’s Catholics at that time, remained the majority nationalist party in Northern Ireland until 2003. Speaking at a pro-PIRA rally in 1982 in Nassau County, New York, King pledged support to “those brave men and women who this very moment are carrying forth the struggle against British imperialism in the streets of Belfast and Derry.” In 1985, the Irish government boycotted New York’s annual St. Patrick’s Day celebrations in protest at King serving as Grand Marshal of the event; the Irish government condemned him as an “avowed” supporter of IRA terrorism. At the parade he again offered words of support for the IRA.”

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/P…..or_the_IRA

    The actual Irish Republic (and Northern Irish public) thought Peter King was a fuckwad. Yeah, let’s listen to him about how we have to fight terrorists.

    1. PIRA = “Provisional” IRA.

    2. “Rep. King and the IRA: The End of an Extraordinary Affair?

      “By ED MOLONEY, Special to the [NY] Sun | June 22, 2005…

      “He forged links with leaders of the IRA and Sinn Fein in Ireland, and in America he hooked up with Irish Northern Aid, known as Noraid, a New York based group that the American, British, and Irish governments often accused of funneling guns and money to the IRA. At a time when the IRA’s murder of Lord Mountbatten and its fierce bombing campaign in Britain and Ireland persuaded most American politicians to shun IRA-support groups, Mr. King displayed no such inhibitions. He spoke regularly at Noraid protests and became close to the group’s publicity director, the Bronx lawyer Martin Galvin, a figure reviled by the British.”

      http://www.nysun.com/national/…..ary/15853/

      1. Heh heh, “hooked up.”

  8. Look around the world for a dictator busy gobbling up countries, massing globally competitive armies and armaments, rounding up ethnic and religious minorities in camps, and bullying the democratic West to negotiating tables where weaker nation-states are cashed in like poker chips.

    The closest thing the world has to something like that is…

    1. Oooh Oooh I know, he won the Nobel Peace prize right?

    2. I was going to make that post.

      Damn your fast Invisible Finger!

  9. It’s not that bringing Hitler into the discussion is some kind of taboo, it’s that it’s some kind of thousand-proof stoopid.

    If we listen to Rand Paul, it will be 9/11 times 2356.

    1. My God, that’s… I don’t even know what that is!

      1. Multiplying fractions is a bitch.

        1. I get 1927.63636363636363636364.

          Is that close?

          1. Hooray, it’s an endlessly repeating day during July of 1927. Flappers Forever!

            1. Goddamnit, I was going to make a joke about that but couldn’t figure one out.

        1. Wait; that’s 911 * 2,356.

          1. You forgot PEMDAS; you have to multiply 11 by 2356 before dividing by 9.

      2. No one does!

      3. A 9/11 every day for 6.45 years.

  10. -Rand Paul issuing apologia on behalf of an expansionist aggressor state against a peaceful western ally.
    -Sen. Paul has demonstrated no similar concern about The Jewish Problem.

    Yes, but he has called for an end to foreign aid which theoretically would include billions to Israel and in the minds of many neo-conservatives that might as well be equivalent.

    -Rand Paul to this point in his career has not expressed an active interest in eugenics.

    But he has questioned the Civil Rights Act (and add to this unfortunately clumsy performance at Howard) and in the mind of many leftists that’s pretty much the equivalent.

    1. He questioned two parts of the CRA.

      Get your pauliana right.

  11. From Wiki on the “fringe” America First movement:

    The America First Committee (AFC) was the foremost non-interventionist pressure group against the American entry into World War II. Peaking at 800,000 paid members in 450 chapters, it was one of the largest anti-war organizations in American history.

    http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/A….._Committee

    1. That’s fewer than the number of registered LP’ers, and the LP is considered fringe. Basically anything less than 2% is fringe. Illegal aliens are more mainstream than AFC and the Libertarian Party.

      1. To be fair, there were only 130 million Americans in 1940. We’re up to about 315 million now.

  12. A persistent if under-acknowledged problem with the hawks’ robotic insult of calling their non-hawk political opponents Hitler-appeasers is that in the Year of Our Lord 2013, THERE IS NO ADOLF HITLER.

    The hawk response to that would be that there’s no Hitler only because America was hawkish in the past, and we need to be hawkish now to prevent would-be Hitlers.

    The problems with that line of reasoning I will leave as an exercise to the reader.

    1. See below for communications between the National Socialists and his favorite terrorist organization.

      But Rand Paul is the guy who should be Godwinned.

    2. I have a rock that keeps away terrorists if you’re interested, Norm.

  13. Speaking of Nazis, let’s not forget that the IRA rejected the Nazis…because the Nazis wanted them to be *less* violent:

    “Of all the insults thrown at the IRA, of all the reputation damage done to that army throughout its near 100 turbulent years nothing has caused so much damage or suspicion as the connection with the Nazis. Thankfully it does not stand up to scrutiny….The Nazis then attempted to dictate to the IRA what their policies should be – e.g. stop attacking the Irish state, focus attention on Northern Ireland. The IRA didn’t like this attitude and simply said no to it.”

    http://historum.com/european-h…..nazis.html

    Well, good on them, they were more violent than the Nazis wanted! Nice that they didn’t take Nazi dictation.

    1. I knew that the irish were worse than hitler.

      1. I know you’re joking, but a majority of Irish *rejected* the IRA even while wanting N. Ireland to be part of their country. They simply didn’t want to bomb their way to that objective. King did.

  14. “Irish Republican Army ? Abwehr collaboration in World War II”

    http://bit.ly/TNcWmD

    Yes, Rep. King, keep harping on the Hitler theme, that’s really going to help you.

  15. you know who else let people down?

    1. Sean Thornton, until the end of The Quiet Man?

    2. Anthony Weiner?

    3. Obama the Lightworker?

  16. King proves once again that we’ll never reach Peak Scumbag.

  17. The so-called principles of George Washington’s Farewell Address, and James Monroe’s thoughtless ‘Doctrine’, that’s an isolationist trend which will damage our country tremendously
    And what — what we anti-Whigs realize is that Santa Anna, and the Bolivarists, there’s a terrorist movement out there and we have to maintain our security and we’re not going to pander and stoke up fears of paranoia the way he’s been doing by talking about spying and snooping, which was only in the febrile brain of Benjamin Harrison

    1. We all know Washington’s sorry appeasement of King George.

    2. I like the anti-period thing you have going on there.

      1. He’s not a woman.

  18. THERE IS NO ADOLF HITLER.

    Only because the Commando-in-Chief parachuted behind enemy lines and garotted him with a length of piano wire secreted in his watch band.

  19. “Hey, Rocky! Watch this. Nuthin’ up muh sleeve…”

    There was no pork. Every dollar was accounted for.

  20. And when he talks about Governor Christie and me and others who fought hard to get the aid that we needed — this was a natural disaster and yet every dollar was accounted for. He just perpetuates this big lie, talking about pork and somehow trying to demean Governor Christie when he fought so hard for the state or me because I fought so hard for mine – when he had every dollar accounted for and will be accounted for.

    Christie kisses Obama’s ass, Obama delivers the pay out, it bought a lot of loyalty from Christie, King and the other Northeastern Republicans. That likely plays into it more than 2016. After all, what is the flip side of the Amish-Conners vote? That a majority of democrats in the House went against their establishment tool of a president. Why is that story not being played out? Because Christie ran his big fucking mouth to create a counter offensive for Obama.

    1. I doubt there is any Obama-Christie-King collusion here. There is an easier answer: Northeastern Republicans and neoconservatives have always been part of the GOP establishment and all three factions are more afraid or and worried about Senator Paul than they are President Obama.

      1. Bingo. Establishment Republicans hate the Tea Party much more than they do Democrats. Hate it, I tells you, with the incandescent furty of a thousand suns.

      2. Out of nowhere Christie does this? On a principle that he has never before expressed? There are no coincidences in politics. It’s the timing after the Amish-Conners vote that tells the true motivation here. From a political standpoint, Christie would have been better off to have kept his mouth shut as it did not involve him. Someone pushed him, and who does he owe a favor? Why, the very man whose flank was just exposed.

        1. I don’t think we have any Amish Senators. Though it’s starting to sound like a good idea.

          1. Trying to cut back on beer this week to look good at the pool tomorrow. I knew it was ‘a’, but my poh lit’ fingers are a tremblin’, man.

        2. I have a hard time disagreeing with your theory but I’m gonna have to side with Bo on this one. The Northeast has a special brand of political stupidity as they have a special knack for fielding candidates the party backs but that the nation can’t fucking stand. This is true of both parties as my memory tells me Romney, Kerry, Dukakis (and I’ll even throw Mondale in there as MN is somewhat of a puritan outpost al a Oregon and North CA). The northeatern ego simply works this way.

          You may be right about a Christie-Obama collusion, but King is just an algorithm in an infinite loop.

          1. You are all right about the festering head wound that is the NE GOP culture; it is so bad that this action on Christie’s part even looks like a natural outgrowth, but in the categorical sense, this has all the fingerprints of a classic political distraction written on it. Distractions are so prevalent that they become background noise that we have grown accustomed to ignoring.

  21. I’m afraid that’s what Senator Paul is going to do with us. He wants to retreat from the world, he wants to isolate ourselves, go back to a fortress America. […]

    Somebody call the police! There’s a strawman being beaten within an inch of its life!

    1. An America where you can’t fly with Tabasco sauce in your carry on and the NSA can read every correspondence and listen to every phone call you make isn’t ‘Fortress America’?

      What a dumbass.

      1. Rep. King and his ilk recognize quite clearly that AQ poses no threat whatsoever to their cronytastic cushy position, but the American people just might. Ergo, they are directing the Total Security State they control against the real threat. Us.

        1. I’m less worried about Fortress America than I am about Panopticon America.

    2. Somebody call the police! There’s a strawman being beaten within an inch of its life!

      Make sure to cordon off the area and adhere to a strict no flame rule.

  22. You know, I used to like Peter King. But since the Sandy bill laden as it was with the usual outrageous pork for unrelated purposes I have started to see him as a go along to get along Republican and zi no longer support them. They are part of the problem.

  23. and we’re not going to pander and stoke up fears of paranoia the way he’s been doing by talking about spying and snooping, which was only in his mind

    BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

  24. Hitler/Limbergh

    Intentional?

  25. Every gallon from the exxon valdez was accounted for too…

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