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Politics

Matt Welch Discusses Rand Paul vs. John McCain on MSNBC's All In With Chris Hayes

Matt Welch | 5.31.2013 5:38 PM

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Last night I appeared on MSNBC's All In program to discuss the controversial trip by Sen. John McCain (R-Arizona) to Syria, and the challenge to McCainite neoconservatism by "wacko birds" like Sen. Rand Paul (R-Kentucky):

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PoliticsJohn McCainWorldCivil LibertiesPolicyRand PaulSyriaNeoconservatismLibertarianism
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  1. Caleb Turberville   12 years ago

    Well, at least you didn't discuss Rand Paul versus John McCain on Maddow or O'Donnell.

    1. Tman   12 years ago

      This is an improvement, how?

      1. Caleb Turberville   12 years ago

        I'm not quite sure if there's any real improvement between Hayes and Maddow, but both measurably better than O'Donnell, whose job, let's face it, is to write the official sanctioned liberal script for the day's news.

        1. Tman   12 years ago

          You must have an advanced ability to detect such minute differences between partisan hackery.

          Impressive.

        2. Caleb Turberville   12 years ago

          Actual quote from LOD by the way:

          "I have been calling myself a socialist ever since I first read the definition of socialism in the first economics class I took in college."

          He must have made the mistake a number of college-coasters usually make which is to only study the definitions and not the empirical context surrounding the word.

          1. Tman   12 years ago

            Growing up in Boston I met plenty of O'Donnels, they infest the city like locusts. He's just one of the more prominent ones.

            Always ready to do good with someone else's money.

            The 100 million dead from the failed policies of collectivism?

            "Oh, well, that's not really socialism dude. You don't get it."

            Uh huh.

            1. Libertymike   12 years ago

              Funny, they always seem to act as if they are exempt from the "from each" part of the equation.

            2. ant1sthenes   12 years ago

              When capitalism* fails, we get inequality, slow progress, and political corruption. When socialism fails, we get widespread starvation, oppression, and mass murder. If I had to choose between a failed capitalist society and a failed socialist society, I think the right choice would be obvious.

              *Before some Chonyriek tries to make the argument, no, fascism is not failed capitalism. Fascism is what happens when socialists give up on their utopian dreams and try to create the monstrous caricature of capitalism that exists in their nightmares. But even that is mostly just projection, which is why it ends up resembling the worst socialist societies.

  2. Palin's Buttplug   12 years ago

    Why not try to convert some goddamn conservatives to the LP?

    1. Almanian!   12 years ago

      Come to church Sunday and we'll work on the conversions, shriek.

      1. Libertymike   12 years ago

        Given his new handle, don't you think he might be worried that father might ask him "back" to the rectory afterwards?

  3. Almanian!   12 years ago

    "All In"

    THAT'S WHAT SHE SAID!

    1. Francisco d Anconia   12 years ago

      With me she always says:

      "All in?"

  4. PRX   12 years ago

    how do you tell Maddow and Hayes apart?

    1. DesigNate   12 years ago

      One's got a penis and the other one is Hayes.

    2. Jon Lester   12 years ago

      And why don't either of them get Lasik? They have plenty of money.

  5. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    That five minute story setup was so snotty that made me side with McCain. And that's yet another reason for me to hate you, MSNBC.

    1. Austrian Anarchy   12 years ago

      First 5 min. in they gave the McCain quote, and McCain owes Hillary Clinton a royalty. He ripped off her BS about "moderate al Qaeda".

  6. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    I am curious Hayes' position of Syrian intervention when it's Obama policy in action. The administration didn't seem to have any problem with McCain meeting with the rebels in the first place.

  7. Skomoroh   12 years ago

    Matt,
    Since apparently you were the designated spokesperson for the republicans in this little get together, maybe you could have asked the host which party runs the senate and subcommittee they referenced?

    By all means sock it to the republicans but don't forget the democrats especially when on their home turf.

    1. Caleb Turberville   12 years ago

      With all due to respect to Matt (who did a very good job, I would say), I think there's an understanding that if MSNBC is to have you on, you DON'T dare point out Democratic hypocrisy.

      1. Matt Welch   12 years ago

        I go on MSNBC a lot. They understand that I'm a libertarian, so I will be to the left of them sometimes and to the right of them sometimes. To anoint myself Republican spokesman during any of that would turn my mind to mush.

        1. Caleb Turberville   12 years ago

          Fair enough, I just wanted to point out that MSNBC has (and, as a libertarian, I must say, is entitled to) a political bias and a particular agenda in support of the Left; if they only want to shine on a light on the Right, that's their prerogative.

        2. John Galt   12 years ago

          If you were a Republican spokesman, the GOP would be working overtime smearing you off the podium.

  8. CE   12 years ago

    Get your adjectives straight. If you're comparing Paul and McCain, Paul is a lot less "wacko" than the warmonger.

    1. John Galt   12 years ago

      If McCain believes we should support Syria's rebels, then doing so has to be the worst choice we could possibly make.

  9. WomSom   12 years ago

    Ddue is like totalyl slinging it over there.

    http://www.WorldPrivacy.tk

  10. John Galt   12 years ago

    I'm putting my money on the "wacko birds," given the obvious fact the neo-cons are headed for certain self-inflicted extinction.

    1. DesigNate   12 years ago

      From your lips to FSM's ears.

  11. AlmightyJB   12 years ago

    You lost me at MSNBC

  12. Bill Dalasio   12 years ago

    The funny thing I took away from this was the difference in motivations. Mr. Welch seemed much more interested in America not getting bogged down in a hopeless clusterfuck. The PMSNBCers were more interested in their diplomatic circle jerk not getting disrupted.

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