Mayor Bloomberg on Boston Bombing: "Our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change."

"[W]e live in a complex word," New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said today, when asked about the Boston Marathon bombing. "[Y]ou're going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change."
More, from the New York Observer:
"The people who are worried about privacy have a legitimate worry," Mr. Bloomberg said during a press conference in Midtown. "But we live in a complex word where you're going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will. And our laws and our interpretation of the Constitution, I think, have to change."
"Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms. New Yorkers probably know that as much if not more than anybody else after the terrible tragedy of 9/11," he said.
"We have to understand that in the world going forward, we're going to have more cameras and that kind of stuff. That's good in some sense, but it's different from what we are used to," he said.
Still, Mr. Bloomberg argued the attacks shouldn't be used as an excuse to persecute certain religions or groups.
"What we cant do is let the protection get in the way of us enjoying our freedoms," he said. "You still want to let people practice their religion, no matter what that religion is. And I think one of the great dangers here is going and categorizing anybody from one religion as a terrorist. That's not true … That would let the terrorists win. That's what they want us to do."
In closing, Bloomberg said, "What we can't do is let the protection get in the way of us enjoying our freedoms."
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"Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms." [Bloomberg] said.
Yeah, those people are called "politicians".
Fuck Bloomberg.
The fact, though, that over 60% of NYers still approve of the guy is just proof that this country no longer is worthy of the Constitution. We don't deserve freedom, cause we sure as hell don't appreciate it.
Don't lump us in with those brain-dead city zombies. I don't know who they're polling for thos 60% numbers for Nanny Bloomberg and King Cuomo, but it sure as hell isn't up where I am.
Even if it were, who is this we I keep hearing about? I don't know if people in my neck of the woods are ever going to be up on what's happening in statist circles, but I'm not taking the blame for their bad choices even if I do have to take the fall.
I hear NY has a nasty influx of hipsters. Hipsters are the sort of retards that would vote for Bloomie.
"The Rent is Too Damn High," yet these people still want an oligarch for a leader, and are seriously considering the likes of Quinn and Weiner to follow.
In order for us to prevent bad people from taking our freedom, we have to remove some freedom!
Well said
They can't take it if we've already destroyed it.
""We had to destroy the village in order to save it.""
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ben_Tre
Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms.
Namely you, asshole.
"Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms. New Yorkers probably know that as much if not more than anybody else after the terrible tragedy of 9/11," he said.
People like Bloomburg, Lindsay Graham, John McCain. Nanny-staters all.
Didn't move fast enough and got pwned by Kristen, Joe and Oncogene. Tough crowd...
The only thing that needs to change is the career choice of statist shitbags.
the only people I've seen taking my freedoms away lately has been our own government.
Go away Nanny Bloomberg, we don't want your style of "Solution". Bring your edicts to the tides and see if they follow you.
"Look, we live in a very dangerous world. We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms."
You know who is taking away our freedoms? Michael Bloomberg!
I see a clear theme developing in our responses.
Almost as if there were some grain of truth to the matter.
I'd say that's spot on. That was my first thought for a comment, but half the posts are already exactly what was on my mind.
I love you guys. (well, I like you more than I like most people, anyway)
I don't know half of you half as well as I should like; and I like less than half of you half as well as you deserve.
I was hoping it would be kept to the simple "fuck off, slaver", myself.
fuck off slaver! there ya go LTC 🙂
Why does it have to change? A bunch of lunatics were able to plant a couple of bombs but were captured and or killed within a week and before they could do any more damage. Other that cops completely fucking up the capture, this is what good security looks like.
If it doesn't change, Nanny Blooberg can't force his 'vision' on the little people.
The comparison I make is with the West, Texas explosion. Lots more killed & injured there, but much less concern because no bad guys.
I'm all for allowing a temporary martial law exception to the Fifth Amendment that will exempt self-important fascist living-constitution septuagenarian billionaire shitbirds who run for mayor from the right to life sans due process.
Fuck you, Bloomberg. You and DiFi can't shuffle off your Palpatinian mortal coils soon enough.
Fucking poetry, man.
*Rise to give standing ovation*
Let's just hope they don't transfer to clone bodies. The Sith have an app for that.
Here here
"What we cant do is let the protection get in the way of us enjoying our freedoms," he said. "You still want to let people practice their religion, no matter what that religion is. And I think one of the great dangers here is going and categorizing anybody from one religion as a terrorist. That's not true ? That would let the terrorists win. That's what they want us to do."
That is the height of liberal idiocy right there. See, there are all of these dangerous and evil people out there. But we are not going to do anything to combat the ideology that motivates these people to be so evil, that wouldn't be fair. So instead we are going to take away everyone's freedom and privacy for their own good.
Fuck you Bloomberg.
It's even more ridiculous than that. He's saying that we should take away freedoms in order to prevent terrorism, even though your odds of being killed in a terrorist attack in this country are less than the odds of being hit by lightning, but we can't take away the freedoms that Bloomberg thinks are important.
You see, freedom of speech, protection against unreasonable search and seizure, due process, and gun rights are stupid freedoms that we can get rid of to stop terrorists. Freedom of religion? Sacrosanct.
It's just the same old fascist idea that top men know what's best for the rest of us.
We are going to take away your freedoms and right to privacy and such. But we can't take away anyone's freedom of religion.
More kids die on the playground than are killed in school shootings, and those numbers combined pale in comparison to those slain by mother nature, yet for some reason those 'top men' seem to suck up to nature and rail against the evil gun.
It's not the top men, it's the common men, who can't peel their eyes off the TV when there's a bombing or a shooting because it's dramatic and exciting. Reality is the ultimate reality TV, and people only care because they're entertained.
"Look, we live in a very dangerous world."
The hilarious thing is how false that statement is. We are safer as a species than we ever have been in the history of human civilization. Not everyone, and not everywhere, but certainly in most of the industrialized world.
And there have been random nuts planting bombs in public places occasionally going back to the anarchists in the late 19th Century. What these guys pulled off is no different than what Bill Ayers wanted to pull off. These guys were just better bomb makers.
In theory maybe terrorism really could become such a threat we would have to rethink a few aspects of our system. This has happened in other countries. Places like Peru have had really long and intense terrorists campaigns waged against them and have had to take some extreme measures to stop them. But would it be too much to ask if maybe we wait until the day we actually are facing such a wave of attacks before we resort to extreme measures?
In London in the 16th century, there were an average of 400 murders per year in a city of 200,000 people. Other European cities had similar rates.
And you know how they fixed it? They started hanging people in large numbers. Amazing what swift and sure punishment does to crime rates. It is almost as if incentives matter or something.
Be careful with that stuff. The current thinking is that increase in the surety of punishment matters a lot more then the increase in severity. That's incentive based reasoning, too, only it leads to a surveillance state.
What these guys pulled off is no different than what Bill Ayers wanted to pull off. These guys were just better bomb makers.
nice one man. I'm using that IRL if somebody makes me talk about this.
And our kids, families, and communities are only safer due to widespread widespread wealth and the diversions from crime it permits, cooperation & community within the market, and firearm liberalization laws, all of which Mike and his entire party are actively undermining.
I swear to God, if Bloomberg were a doctor, he'd tell you that amputating your dick was the best possible birth control.
An0nG0d, I mean.
Right. Life is scary now. All they had to contend with back when the Constitution was penned was the constant threat of war or war itself, famine and starvation, incurable disease, natural disaster with no warning, frontier justice, rebellion, Indian/settler battles, pestilence, etc., etc.
Now we have large sodas. They want our freedoms.
Put him in.... THE COMFY CHAIR
I don't use the word fascist very often, because it's overused and misapplied so often.
Mayor Bloomberg, you are a fascist.
Remember back in the good old days when Pat Buchanan and paleocons like him were roundly mocked for advocating "Fortress America?"
That we must curtail freedoms and limit immigration if we are to survive the onslaught of the foreign hordes?
They've already won, you tyrannical cunt. They won when you and the other tyrannical cunts like you screamed and wailed and forced the national security state on the rest of us.
Here is the thing. If something like this were happening every week rather than once every few years, we want to think about doing something pretty extreme. But that is not the case. Come talk to me when we have a nuclear attack or these little piss ant bombings are happening so often people are afraid to gather in large crowds. Then we can talk. But until then, Nanny Blooberg is just pissing on the graves of the victims pretending this is something it clearly isn't.
I've said similar things, particularly around the whole Lite-Brite thing. We aren't Israel during the Intifada. If we had to contend with multiple suicide bombings in shopping malls, things would be different. You'd have to seriously evaluate how much more security you need and what liberties you'd be willing to trade for it.
But what we saw Thursday/Friday was frightening. I thought it'd take a true WMD before we saw hundreds of armor-clad SWAT team guys going through everybodies' houses in a town.
I had the vague feeling watching it that a watershed moment had been reached, but couldn't put my finger on why. Fluffy's comment a few days ago really put it into perspective for me, that since risk avoidance is paramount with politicians and senior law enforcement, they can't in the future decide not to do something like shut down a city.
We're going to see this again. The thing is, it's silly, as one of the newer posters pointed out. We have a population that wants to help, that is networked, with cameras and voice communications. And you want them locked away?
And they have no idea they might have done anything wrong. That is the scary part.
I unfiltered dunphy long enough to shake my head at his complete inability to grasp the horror that the rest of us had looking at the pictures of law enforcement swarming over that town. As well as the pictures of completely deserted Boston bridges and streets.
'No idea they might have done anything wrong' is right.
And after all that they still completed boloed the capture killing one suspect and allowing the other to run lose, armed and dangerous for over 12 hours.
Seriously. I'd rather live free and let my chance of death by terrorist increase from 0.000001% to 0.000002%
Will he run for governor of NY after he's term-limited out of the city?
That NYC survived 12 years of this control freak is impressive. I thought his black shakedown? policy alone would have started a rebellion.
Well, see, first we had to survive 8 yrs. of Giuliani, and before that, Dinkins.
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My oh my what a pustulent day
Plenty of nannies headed my way
Zip-A-Dee-Doo-Dah Zip-A-Dee-A
Nursemaid Bloomberg's on my shoulder
He's uncouth
He's pathetic
Everything is diabetic
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Pustulent feeling
Pustulent Day
Yes Sir
"We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms."
Dang, everyone else beat me to my response.
"We know there are people who want to take away our freedoms. New Yorkers probably know that as much if not more than anybody else"
...He said without a hint of irony, while sipping a Big Gulp and tipping the ash from his black-market menthol-100s....
I bet the Taliban would let you buy a Big Gulp.
The world is complex and frightening to an obsessive compulsive simpleton like you, Mike. Seek professional help. Maybe try medical marijuana.
That would let the terrorists win.
But "re-imagining" the Constitution won't.
How do these people get elected...what is going on with the electorate at the whole that they would put these folks into power?
"You're going to have to have a level of security greater than you did back in the olden days, if you will."
Hey, try and see it from his point of view; were you the one trying to stomp on the faces of millions, you might perceive the world as being pretty threatening too. And since you are with the law, what's the harm in neutering the rights of the people? It's not like you'd use the new-found latitude to oppress yourself.
Namely the pols who have set out to "protect" us.
According to Bloomy, however, they should be used as a means to persecute EVERYONE by demanding a greater security state.
"My names mayor Bloomberg and I am your new slavemaster, do as I say or else! I know better than you" - mayor Bloomberg
What I'd like to know is what Bloomberg thinks letting "people practice their religion" includes. I intuit that he's not at all concerned with freedom of religious practice, only with freedom of religious self-identification.
I want to see this guy's head explode when unidentified Islamists are strongly suspected of desecrating a Jewish temple.
The garbage human that resides in NYC is truly disgusting.
If you get hit again by terrorists, I really don't think I give a rat's rear end.
It's clear that this man will stop at nothing to chip away at as many "freedoms" as he can. lol @ algerhiss, i hear ya bro
"We're going to suspend your rights to free speech, protest, bear arms, privacy, and trial by jury."
-"Why?"
"To protect you from terrorists."
-"Why do we need to be protected from terrorists?"
"They hate you for your freedoms and they want to take those freedoms away from you.
-"So, in order to be free, we have to be safe and in order to be safe, we have to give up our freedom?"
"Yes, otherwise the terrorists win."
-"But I can still worship whatever or whomever I like?"
"Sure! This is America and that is your Constitutional right!"