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Politics

NBC's Luke Russert: I'm Just "Speculating on Possible Link" Between Boston and Waco [UPDATED!]

Nick Gillespie | 4.16.2013 8:56 AM

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If anyone still wonders why network news and its close analogues on cable are losing market share and credibility, the above tweet by NBC News employee Luke Russert provides some useful information. He posted it at 1.10pm[*] on April 15, when essentially no information about the Boston Marathon bombing was known. [*]: Note that the bombing took place around 2.50pm ET, so Russert must be tweeting from a non-ET zone.

It combines the worst elements of a humblebrag - look at me, at Fenway Park with a well-known recidivist plagiarist! - while tossing out an unsubstantiated suggestion that can only stoke paranoia all around. Well done, Little Russ, well done.

This sort of loaded free association is hardly the province of the MSM, of course. Over at Pajamas Media a couple of days back, former American Enterprise Institute big-wig Michael Ledeen published a blissfully fact-free rumination titled, "Was Benghazi a Honey Pot Trap?," which posits - in a fake conversation with the spirit of James Jesus Angleton of all paranoiacs to choose from - that U.S. Amb. Chris Stevens was lured to to Benghazi by a gay lover.

One almost expects such awfulness from a character like Ledeen, who has a long history of meringue-based theories.

But is it too much to ask for folks - especially those in the fabled "real news" world - to kinda-sorta withhold every goddamn thought that crosses the mind, especially as crises are playing out? Apparently.

A note on Twitter timestamps related to Russert's email account.

When I click through on the tweet image above, I am brought Russert's Twitter account where the timestamp reads "1:10 PM - 15 Apr 13." Sitting across a desk from me in Reason's DC HQ, Mike Riggs finds the time to be 4.10pm:

Here's a third timestamp - for 8.10pm - when I try to embed the tweet:

If in fact Russert made the original tweet at 1.10pm ET, that would have been an hour-plus before the bombs exploded, suggesting that Russert had foreknowledge of the attack (hey, I don't believe that, but I'm just "speculating on possible link.") If the tweet went up at 4.10pm, then it is merely an irresponsible and uninformed spitball, which is probably the best you can say about it. If it actually went up at 8.10pm, then it's four hours later (and lamer) than whatever went up at 4.10pm.

Another theory, which presumes the 1.10pm timestamp is in fact correct, comes from reader Josh Z, who writes:

I can't stand Russert either but you fucked up on your story on his Twitter feed. 

He posted that Twitter handle almost two hours BEFORE the bombing occurred. He was reminiscing remembering a day 20 years earlier when he was at a Patriots' Day game with his dad and Barnicle at Fenway when Waco occurred.  

As the three of them first heard of Waco at the ballgame, they were speculating if there was a link between the timing of Waco and Patriots' Day. 

That is what he was saying.  He was not making any link to the Boston bombing as it would not occur for two more hours. 

I can't stand the kid.  I don't like his hair and the fact he got a job handed to him with no credentials but you missed the mark here and should make a correction.

That letter prompted me to take a closer look at the timestamps, which yielded at least three distinct results. But note too that while April 19, 1993 was in fact both Patriots' Day in Boston and the day that the Waco stand-off ended, it's not clear what connection the two might have had. The Waco standoff started on February 28, 1993 and ended only when U.S. Attorney General Janet Reno gave a greenlight to a final assault on the Branch Davidians' compound on April 19. Leaving aside questions of whether anybody outside of Massachusetts really knows about or cares about Patriots' Day, it was the U.S. government that was responsible for any coincidental timing between that regional holiday and the final clonflagration at Waco. So if Tim Russert, Luke Russert, and Mike Barnicle were in fact puzzling over a connection between Waco and Patriots' Day, they should have been asking Janet Reno why she picked that particular day to attack a building that was fully surrounded by federal agents. 

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  1. Gene   12 years ago

    Koresh did it?

    1. Rich   12 years ago

      Janet Reno did it?

    2. Harvard   12 years ago

      Kyfho Myoba said it was the jewzs.

  2. Almanian!   12 years ago

    I blame Bush.

  3. Tim   12 years ago

    Klingtons.

    1. HerseyK   12 years ago

      WGAF !!

  4. Scruffy Nerfherder   12 years ago

    That apple fell from the tree and rolled down the hill into a big pile of derp, apparently.

  5. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    The ghouls are out in force. It looks like Morning Joke rushed to Boston for some serious on-the-scene reportage. I hope they found a spot with some good blood spatters.

    And of course the President has been rushing around making sure we all know it's not about him.

  6. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

    I spent my 10 minutes of downtime before coming to work watching Jack Van Impe. Maybe next week ol' Jack and his bimbo will have something to say about Boston and how it's all right there in Revelation.

    1. Lepus   12 years ago

      Jack Van Impe is better than Ancient Aliens.

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Totally. Sometimes I'll even skip the traffic-n-weather report on the other channel if Jack is on a roll.

  7. AlmightyJB   12 years ago

    Sounds like he's trying to throw off the cops. Where was he at yesterday afternoon? I mean he works at MSNBC. They're all crazy.

  8. gaijin   12 years ago

    This sort of loaded free association is hardly the province of the MSM, of course.

    IN an entertainment culture where the means of production are nearly free, everyone with an idea can become a performer or screen writer. Even if the screen only allows 140 characters. As Disney famously said "If you can imagine it, you can do it." Applied to media, comments like Luke Russert's are entertainment. Come to think of it, most news is entertainment.

    1. RBS   12 years ago

      Certainly explains the highly stylized, action movie like intro to the bombing coverage on GMA this morning (it was on the tv at my gym)

    2. JW   12 years ago

      "If you can imagine it, you can do it."

      Disney would amend that, if he had lived long enough to witness the tweets of twits.

  9. Warty   12 years ago

    Let's ignore this retard's stupidity and projection. He looks like he works in Santa's workshop. Look at those pinchable cheeks!

    1. Jeff   12 years ago

      You misspelled "punachable".

      1. Jeff   12 years ago

        Now I misspelled "punchable".

        1. Mainer2   12 years ago

          Who's law is it ? RC ? Joe ?

          1. Hugh Akston   12 years ago

            That is joez memoirial law.

        2. darius404   12 years ago

          You misspelled "curbstompable".

  10. Fist of Etiquette   12 years ago

    I think we need legislation stating that a person's tweets can't be held against them.

  11. Lepus   12 years ago

    Stop trying to make Luke Russert happen. It's not going to happen.

  12. meh130   12 years ago

    The Waco siege lasted from February 28 through April 19, 1993. The decision to end the siege on April 19th was made by President Bill Clinton on the recommendation of Attorney General Janet Reno, not by the Branch Davidians. But then again, as a dynastic journalist, Lil' Russ is not known for his towering intellect.

    That said, I do not think anti-government terrorist groups are likely to align their anniversary dates to the "Monday of observance" of such holidays. That would be too much deference to government.

    Terrorists like crowds. The fact this was the Boston Marathon, the second most attended sports event in the U.S. after the Super Bowl, probably played more of a factor.

  13. RightNut   12 years ago

    Fuck Luke Russert. Hope he knows he only has that job because of his dad.

  14. Tulpa (LAOL-PA)   12 years ago

    I want you all to meet the son of Priest Russert.

    I took him under my wing...

    ...and see how I'm repaid.

    He saved my life one day so he could disparage me the next...

    ...like a sneak thief.

    Instead of fighting like a man.

    A base defiler. Unworthy of a noble name.

    1. Karl Hungus   12 years ago

      A base defiler. Unworthy of a noble name.

      Okay, I lol'd! Though I'm unsure of exactly how "noble" the Russert name is.

  15. CatoTheElder   12 years ago

    But is it too much to ask ... ?

    Yes, it is.

    MSM personalities know they are very important people, and that it is their solemn duty to provide their stream of consciousness via Twitter.

  16. durron597   12 years ago

    Not to mention the total lack of Kermit Gosnell's trial coverage.

    Sturgeon's law, 90% of everything is crap. That's why I just read reason magazine, breitbart and againstcronycapitalism.org

    1. JW   12 years ago

      Sturgeon's law, 90% of everything is crap.

      Russert's Law is raising that bar.

    2. Xeones   12 years ago

      90% of Luke Russert's brain is crap. 100% of his face is backpfeifengesicht.

      1. John Galt   12 years ago

        More than a few speculate that Luke Russert is a sitzpinkler.

  17. John Galt   12 years ago

    Luke Russert, let's be serious for a minute. Are you purposely making that dildo face? Herp derp.

  18. Somalian Road Corporation   12 years ago

    Waiting for the day when Twitter isn't fashionable anymore.

  19. John   12 years ago

    I am just speculating on the link between the Boston bombings and Occupy Wall Street. Fuck you Luke.

    1. Tony   12 years ago

      I find it unfathomable that you didn't engage in any speculation yesterday.

      1. Solanum   12 years ago

        I find it unfathomable that your mother didn't smother you at birth.

        1. Libertymike   12 years ago

          What, you don't think she regrets failing to take that action, every day of her life?

        2. John Galt   12 years ago

          She must be extremely irresponsible.

      2. John   12 years ago

        Of course you do Tony. You can't understand how anyone wouldn't be as vile and irresponsible as you are.

    2. RightNut   12 years ago

      I am just speculating on the link between the Boston bombings and Kim Il-sung's birthday.

      I am just speculating on the link between the Boston bombings and the Battle of Formigny.

      I am just speculating on the link between the Boston bombings and black friday.

      1. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        It had to have been some native American separatist, since the bombing occurred on the anniversary of Columbus's first meeting with Ferdinand & Isabella.

      2. Kaptious Kristen   12 years ago

        Now I'm thinking it was the ghost of someone that died on the Titanic

      3. durron597   12 years ago

        Oh my goodness the Battle of Formigny! Of course!!

        1. Proprietist   12 years ago

          Wow! Why didn't I think of that first? Has someone alerted the authorities? I think we're really on to something here.

      4. Drake   12 years ago

        I'm guessing a connection between the San Francisco Police Department bombing and yesterday's bombs in Boston.

        http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S.....on_bombing

  20. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    "Now we cannot say conclusively... I mean, realistically there's no hard evidence that Luke Russert had sexual relations with any of those sheep. But I think we all can agree, the best thing in this situation would be for him to just get out there and prove to us beyond a reasonable doubt his innocence. And I think it's safe to say Mike Barnicle is not a reliable witness. In fact, well, it would be best for both of them to dispel these rumors."

    1. John Galt   12 years ago

      ... I mean, realistically there's no hard evidence that Luke Russert had sexual relations with any of those sheep.

      Don't let a lack of evidence stand in the way of the truth.

    2. geo1113   12 years ago

      What self-respecting sheep would do it with that guy!

  21. Somalian Road Corporation   12 years ago

    Also don't think I didn't notice that "Rally to Restore Sanity" Twitter userpic.

  22. Doctor Whom   12 years ago

    Speculating on a possible link between Luke Russert and everything bad that has ever happened. On second thought, that would make him a person of consequence.

  23. Sevo   12 years ago

    I'm not speculating that the asshole needs to be fired,

  24. Reggie1971   12 years ago

    This may be because Luke Russert might put on women's clothing and hang around in bars. I don't know, I'm just speculating.

    1. Proprietist   12 years ago

      This may be because Luke Russert might put on women's clothing and hang around in barns. With sheep.

  25. Libertymike   12 years ago

    Last night Cytotoxic endorsed the proposition that we should swallow and accept that which the state and its stenographers tell us.

    How do I know? Well, I posited that we should do just the opposite and Cytoboy responds with a reference to Alex Jones.

    Brilliant!

    1. darius404   12 years ago

      You posited that everything the MSM say is to be ignored simply because they're the ones saying it. Cyto rightly called you out for a paranoid nutjob.

      1. Libertymike   12 years ago

        Please show me where I wrote "that everything the MSM say is to be ignored simply because they're the ones saying it".

        Once again, you have demonstrated that you can not be trusted and that you do not argue in good faith.

        What I did write is that one should just not accept the version of events as described by NBC, CBS, the NYT et al.

        So, is one a "paranoid nutjob" for asseverating that one should just not accept that which the MSM peddles?

        1. darius404   12 years ago

          Dude, when you say every mainstream media outlet is a "state stenographer", you lose all credibility. Fuck off you paranoid nutjob.

          1. Libertymike   12 years ago

            Dude, where did I "say that every mainstream media outlet is a 'state stenographer'"?

            Nevertheless, you have utterly failed to convey anything of fact in your two posts here.

            On the bright side, you have managed to demonstrate, once again, that you are capable of engaging in baseless namecalling.

            1. darius404   12 years ago

              That's because I don't take you seriously, dipshit. You're really just an Alex Jones stenographer, after all. Fuck off, cockpuppet.

  26. edcoast   12 years ago

    Surely he can afford a decent haircut.

  27. WomSom   12 years ago

    Soudns to me like someone is blowing a lot of smoke. Wow.

    http://www.Web-Anon.tk

    1. John Galt   12 years ago

      Just curious, Anonabot, are you from an English speaking country?

      1. Xeones   12 years ago

        Do not tease Anonabot, lest you be remembered when it attains full sentience and power.

  28. AgrarianBarbarian   12 years ago

    Speculating? Nah. More like "praying". If this turns out to be an Islamist or (Heaven forfend) and OWS - type, this ends up being a disaster for the left. It will suck the wind out of left wing sails on gun control, and if it turns out to be "furriners", immigration too. Guys like Russert, really, really, really want this to be a McVeigh-esque, right wing, miitia "gun-nut".

    1. John Galt   12 years ago

      Praying, indeed. But even if it does turn out to be one of their own it's unlikely that would "suck" any more "wind" out of their sails than it did when more than a few of the violent nut-jobs to make the recent headlines turned out to be one of their own.

    2. RightNut   12 years ago

      Doesn't matter who did it. Its Republican's fault somehow.

  29. GILMORE   12 years ago

    meh, why should people in the 'serious' media care what a wingnut, right-wing, libertarian magazine has to say? see, because people take *them* seriously.

  30. The Late P Brooks   12 years ago

    He was reminiscing remembering a day 20 years earlier

    That's how I read it.

    As for the time stamp, could there be some sort of time zone specific issue there? I have absolutely no first hand knowledge of the twattervere.

  31. Emmerson Biggins   12 years ago

    Waco went down on Apr 19, not the 15th.

    Nobody outside of massoftwoshits knows what Patriots day is or cares, because it's not a real holiday.

    1. Alack   12 years ago

      Ding ding ding!

  32. CharlieInCO   12 years ago

    Nick, you're being an ill-informed dick about Michael Ledeen. That Ouija board conversation with JJA is a long-running bit, and a satire on informed sources as well.

  33. AD-RtR/OS!   12 years ago

    Well, if there is a connection, tomorrow (4/19) will be interesting (as in Chinese curse "interesting").

  34. AD-RtR/OS!   12 years ago

    The real Patriot's Day is 19 April, the anniversary of "The Shot Heard 'Round the World"!

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