Police Shoot Dog and Actually Compensate the Family

For everybody tired of hearing about police officers shooting family dogs for no good reason, here's a story about … police officers shooting family dogs for no good reason, splattering a little girl with her beloved pets' blood — and then actually paying damages. That's right, the city of Minneapolis agreed to pay $225,000 to James and Aisha Keten, though only after a judge suggested that officers came a tad too close to plugging a toddler in the process of handling a search warrant very, very badly:
From The Journal:
Officers on April 13 were conducting a search warrant, looking for an assault rifle they believed was used by James Keten's brother Lamont to shoot a woman eight days earlier.
Officers were warned that four potentially aggressive pit bulls were in the home, and also that children would be present.
First, one officer shot a 60-pound pit bill mix named Kano. The officer testified that the dog charged him.
Keten alleges that officers hand-tied him and beat him, but a hospital could find no bruises or injuries to Keten.
Another officer, Chad Fuchs, went into the kitchen where the couple's 3-year-old daughter was eating breakfast. The Kenten's allege that Fuchs fired several shots close to the girl, including ones that killed a 40-pound pit bull-German Shepard mix named Remy. Remy was sitting near the feet of the girl. Remy's blood splattered on the girl's pajamas, and the girl has since been diagnosed with post-traumatic stress disorder. She regularly sees the therapist.
Aisha Keten attempted to rush into the kitchen to grab her daughter, but police restrained her in the bathroom, where she had been getting ready for work.
In terms of the timing of the dog-shootings, an earlier Minneapolis Star-Tribune story points out that the warrant the police had required them to knock, but they barged in instead and "[a]s soon as the officers entered the house, they shot and killed one dog, Kano, in the living room, then moments later fired 'multiple, hollow-point rounds towards the kitchen table, killing another of the Keten's dogs,' Remy, that was lying beneath the table."
That earlier story suggests that police staged a dynamic raid specifically intending to shoot the dogs. It also notes that the city acknowledged that Fuchs, who killed the second dog, could see the three-year-old girl sitting at the table her dog was under, and fired anyway.
They never found the rifle they were looking for, by the way, and the Ketens faced no charges.
Note: That's neither Kano nore Remy pictured above (I couldn't find photos of them), but another example of the scary breed supposedly represented by those dogs.
(H/t Enough About Palin)
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That earlier story suggests that police staged a dynamic raid specifically intending to shoot the dogs. It also notes that the city acknowledged that Fuchs, who killed the second dog, could see the three-year-old girl sitting at the table her dog was under, and fired anyway.
Anyone think they can conjure up a suitable punishment for this cop?
Put a dog collar around his neck and sentence him to 40 years as Janet Reno's new pet?
Weld an iron collar around his neck, remove his balls, and sell him as a harem guard in Saudi Arabia.
The headline implies the police paid the family, would that they did. The taxpayers of the city of Minneapolis are the ones polishing this turd. I am guessing from the names of the family that they were on the wrong end of the von Luschan's chromatic scale.
My God Dog! How could anybody with a conscience shoot a dog with big smile like the one in the sample image? Damned haters. In their next life they will be the dog getting shot.
dumb dog with silly grin, why u no learn?
/Grumpycat
Didn't his name used to be Tardar Sauce?
yeah the original one who started the meme I think
He's definitely been given a few extra scoops of character.
Civil penalties are just about meaningless. The taxpayers foot the bill for this crap, every time. Until police start going to jail, nothing will change.
Animal cruelty, reckless endangerment, false arrest, intentional infliction of emotional distress -- when do the indictments get handed down?
There are two sets of laws: One for police, one for the rest of us.
A law enforcement badge is, de facto, a patent of nobility forbidden by the US Constitution.
You're not suggesting there's a double standard, are you? Because our resident law enforcement officer has clearly pointed out there is none. Because the facts clearly, CLEARLY bear that o.... alright, I can't say that without getting angry.
If it comes out of the police's budget and they have to cut back, their bosses would have an incentive to stop such things.
If a special appropriations bill, not so much so.
"Keten alleges that officers hand-tied him and beat him, but a hospital could find no bruises or injuries to Keten."
a false allegation made against police? Wow. How shocking. Not
Well that clearly excuses them almost plugging a three year old whilst splattering her favorite dogs brains all over her pajamas.
It all comes out in the wash, right Dunphy?
all pigs suck dick!
That's your take-away from this story? Seriously?
Besides, I'd trust that guy way more than those fucking cops. There are plenty of ways of hurting someone without leaving marks.
That's what you took away from this?!?
Always hit them above the hairline, and not with a hard object like a baton which leaves a distinct bruise. You can stun someone momentarily without leaving a bruise.
Ask me how I know this.
Police Shoot Dog and Actually Compensate the Family
Really? How did they unshoot the dog?
Dang it fish, you beat me to it? I was just about to ask how they resurrected the dog.
I was just about to ask how they resurrected the dog.
I'll take "Weird Satanic Rituals" for $1000 Alex!
Now we know why no one was ever convicted over those allegation! The law is in on it!
Who's paying those damages, now?
a false allegation made against police?
Hey, dumb fuck; what say you regarding the false allegations made against the citizens? Oh, that's right, you couldn't give a fuck. If those cops had slaughtered the entire family you would have called it a good shoot.
Every time you disappear for a few days, I get my hopes up that you're at the bottom of the Puget Sound, wrapped in chains.
If those cops had slaughtered the entire family you would have called it a good shoot.
Nonsense PB...that would have been a righteous shoot.
"Eventually there will come a day when it's necessary to arrest? the cops"
I'm not saying that someone should arrange for a swatting at Chad Fuchs' house. I'm not saying that someone should call 911 and claim that they are being held hostage at Chad Fuchs' house by a heavily armed violent psychopath who is impersonating a police officer and keeps muttering that anyone coming through the front door will be shot to pieces.
Wee~!
Someone asked earlier where RC Dean has been.
I suspect he is working on the opening of the new Bush Presidential Library given his past postings here.
Check back for updates.
....Glenn Beck loves you yes he does, just like it always was........
Come back to Glenn shreeky and all will be forgiven.
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And seriously shreek, you should have that looked at. Green puss isn't normal.
Look, I had to leave right at the 9 o'clock links and the question came up about RC Dean.
Well, I think he is safe in Texas working on the Bush Library - thankfully. Don't worry.
I like RC (really) although he is loyal Red.
PROGFAG!
I prefer Demfag. Rolls off the tongue better.
Bushpig.
What's funny is that Obama is much closer ideologically to Bush than most of the posters here. Which means that, in his Obama worship, shrike is really much more like Bush than any of us.
He knows this, of course, that's why his Bush-delirium is stronger than the average lefty. His commentary is nothing more than and endless feedback loop of projection and self-hatred.
His commentary is nothing more than and endless feedback loop of projection and self-hatred.
Exactly
So you agree that those who call Obama a "socialist" should say the same of Bush?
Bush was more of a fascist, economically speaking. Obama wants to turn the fascist American economy into a socialist American economy.
fascists ARE socialists. Learn your own history and not that of the socialists who run the schools and want to distance themselves from the fascists.
Close. The main difference is that while both advocate for control of the economy by the state, fascists don't go all the way in terms of nationalizing/socializing all business and left quasi-private ownership intact. They still demand your complete and utter obedience to the state and talk about mobilizing the workers and all that jazz, they just don't go that extra step.
--Joseph Goebbels, "On Capitalism"
Obama literally nationalized GM. He is a socialist.
Bush literally nationalized AIG, the nine biggest banks via TARP, Fannie and Freddie, Bear Stearns via Maiden Lane, and WaMu.
Shorter OB: "BOOOOSSHHHHHHH!"
Exactly why your hatred of one and love for the other is meaningless. You are closer to a Bush supporter than anyone here.
Didn't Obama vote for TARP?
Obusha not only voted for TARP, he authorized disbursement of an additional $400 billion as part of it.
No he didn't. TARP was $700 billion from day one.
Obama had a choice to not release those funds.
And of course PB dodges the fact that Obama voted for it regardless
So you agree that those who call Obama a "socialist" should say the same of Bush?
What is Medicare Part D Alex?
Oooh for the win!
Why would I make any statements about what other people call politicians?
To me neither are socialists in the strictest meaning of the word. I think they are both social corporatists*, one a bit left and the other a tad to the right.
*If you want a definition of this political category please consult the history of our country for the last 13 years.
I have only argued that Obama is better than Bush - not that either is LP.
Bush lied us into an expensive ground war and had total disregard for federal deficits.
On those two points Obama is clearly better. On everything else? Not so much maybe.
Obama upped the ante by going to war without any congressional approval and has a total disregard for federal deficits.
On those two points Obama is clearly just as bad or worse. On everything else? Just as bad or worse.
Yeah, I've hear this bullshit from you Bush mopes many times.
Libya = Iraq - no difference.
Except for $2 trillion, 4500 dead US soldiers, and a demoralized military.
Palin's Buttplug| 4.11.13 @ 7:42PM |#
"I have only argued that Obama is better than Bush"
In which case, you're an ignoramus.
Obozo has continued the worst of W's policies and added more.
I have only argued that Obama is better than Bush......
One of these days you and I need to sit down over a beer and you can describe to me what it's like being a SuperTard.
God damn shrike is so fucking stupid. Every time I think that little demfag has said the stupidest thing ever, he says something else.
Yes. You're point? Oh you don't have one.
Your*
Uh oh, sounds like Pseudomonas.
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If BOOOOOOSH did not exist, it would be necessary to invent him.
Bush literally nationalized AIG, the nine biggest banks via TARP, Fannie and Freddie, Bear Stearns via Maiden Lane, and WaMu.
Dude, you totally have us backed into a corner now.
This place was like Boooosh Cheerleader Central when that stuff was happening.
Please stop humoring him. That post alone was piled full of enough stupidity (AIG was nationalized by the bailout? And you supposedly work in finance? Holy shit are you stupid).
Never argue with stupid people, they will drag you down to their level and then beat you with experience.
Fannie and Freddie were also originally government programs which were spun off. Bush may have renationalized them, but I hardly think nationalizing two organizations that had previously been nationalized during a major crisis is the same thing as nationalizing GM for no purpose other than a fear that a company might go out of business.
AIG received $67.8 billion in federal aid that had to be repaid to the Treasury. They would never have survived without such in the capital market of the time.
http://projects.propublica.org.....ties/8-aig
Don't doubt me on finance. I am far superior in knowledge to anyone here in such matters.
Don't doubt me on finance. I am far superior in knowledge to anyone here in such matters.
You're lonely afternoons in moms basement playing Monopoly carry no weight here son.
Shit "your"....everything else is fine though.
Don't doubt me on blog commenting. I am far superior in knowledge to anyone here in how to best respond to shreeky.
I gave you and 'Tman' the link as solid evidence.
You have nothing now.
AIG was bailed out to the tune of $67.8 billion and we managed to profit $5 billion from the deal.
Fact.
Bring facts or STFU.
We? When do I get my fucking check?
"We" didn't get jackshit, besides the fucking bill.
Facts?!?! You couldn't identify a fact if it was sucking your dick!
That nonsense from the DNC and MoveOn.com doesn't count TEAM BLUE shill.
Don't you have a test to take so you can reassure your self that you're a "Classical Liberal" or "The Bestest Libertarian" ever?
STFU you stupid fucking idiot.
AIG's arm (yes arm, not THE WHOLE FUCKING COMPANY YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT) did indeed get bailed out to the tune of $67.8 billion.
WHICH IS NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING COMPANY YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON.
AIG Numbers:
Total assets US$ 655.773 billion (2011)
$67.8 billion DOES NOT FUCKING MEAN THAT AIG WAS NATIONALIZED BY ANYONE YOU STUPID FUCKING MORON.
Dumbass, AIG was fully liable for the little "arm" that insured over $100 billion in MBS.
WHICH WAS NOT THE WHOLE FUCKING COMPANY YOU STUPID FUCKING IDIOT.
Yes it is per insurance regulations and how legal entities work.
Palin's Buttplug| 4.11.13 @ 8:02PM |#
"Yes it is per insurance regulations and how legal entities work."
Found something in the trash can when you were emptying them this evening?
So if AIG didn't get $67 billion they would be liable for $100 billion according to you (this is not exactly true but for the sake of your STUPID ASS will assume it is).
THEY STILL WOULD HAVE $560 BILLION IN ASSETS.
Finance, huh? Math 'n stuff?
Shreek, here's a tip. When you feel the need to say things to people like "Don't doubt me on finance. I am far superior in knowledge to anyone here in such matters." not only do you sound like a smug condescending prick but you are admitting that you are most assuredly NOT the most knowledgeable in such matters here.
The people who really are the smartest about this shit WOULD NEVER RUN THEIR MOUTHS LIKE A FUCKING IDIOT.
Just a tip.
Also, giving money to a company is not nationalization. Barack Obama made the government appoint the company's board and partially direct operations. He didn't just give the company money, he literally ran various aspects of GM's operations.
That is vastly different than what Bush did, although both were terrible.
So Bush was better because he ladled money out but did not oversee it?
Appointing a company's board and literally running that company is socialism. Giving money to a company is corporatism, possibly fascism. It is a different type of economic system.
You claimed Bush was a socialist. He was not. Obama is a socialist. He sees no problem with the government literally running a company. That's what socialism is.
It's not an issue of 'better.' Both are terrible. I don't know why you feel the need to incessantly and mindlessly sing the praises of Obama simply because, in your view, he is better than Bush.
That doesn't matter. Both were terrible. Obama is terrible. Obama is a socialist. What the fuck does any of this have to do with George W. Bush?
Palin's Buttplug| 4.11.13 @ 8:18PM |#
"So Bush was better because he ladled money out but did not oversee it?"
No, dipshit, he was better because he didn't do as much harm as Obozo.
Go fuck your daddy.
Hahahahahahahahahahaha!
Tman| 4.11.13 @ 7:21PM |#
..."And you supposedly work in finance?"...
Well, sorta. Does janitorial work at a bank count?
Shreeek is like a wind-up monkey sitting on a shelf beating his cymbals together. That's it. That's his function in life. Even if his little three-gear clockwork brain could generate enough wattage to imagine himself humping the Barnie doll,
it
could
never
happen.
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ps-
That fucking dog in the picture looks like a juggalo; I'd shoot it.
Barnie, Barbie; whomever.
Dog I hate pigs. More than Sarcasmic does. I hate these stories. Yeah some good came out of this one until the fucking chicken shit courts get the cops cocks out of their mouth and get rid of defacto unlimited immunity and hold these fucking cowardly pigs personaly, civilly, and criminal liable for their incredibly brazen acts of shear cowardliness and bullying, nothing is going to change.
Did I mention how much I hate pigs?
I wish Orwell would of picked a different metaphor in Animal Farm for the dogs to represent. Hyenas, evil matriarchal bitches that they are) maybe, but you probably don't see them on a farm
For f&*$k's sake! FTA
This wasn't a payment out of the goodness of their hearts! This was going to a jury and they would have been slaughtered with these facts.
I find the fact that the police feared a jury enough to settle encouraging. It tells me I'm not the only one who, if on that jury, would want to tie them naked over a barrel in the cities most notorious gay bar.
How's that troll-free Thursday working out?
If I was leading a armed squad in a government sanctioned home invasion I would encourage all of my troops to shoot any dog without hesitation. You may value your dog's life, but from my point of view your dog is a very dangerous piece of personal property and I would be more than happy to pay the fair market value to replace your property than risk the personal safety of my men.
The government sanctioned home invasion part of the story is terrifying. Its not like the suspect(s) can flush a rifle, I know these cops must be of some intelligence, what goes through their heads when they are planning this stuff? Get a bullhorn and tell everyone to come out with their hands up. Worse case there is a hostage situation and a standoff. Worse case the way these guys did it? Dead dogs, dead kids, dead cops, dead suspect.
Contradictions do not exist. Check your premises.
They don't want these things to end peacefully. They're shitheaded little adrenaline junky baboons. They like doing this kind of shit.
They're shitheaded little steroid enhanced adrenaline junky baboons.
FITFY
er...FIFY
There's a problem with "fair market value", though. How do you place a fair market value on something that is unique and irreplaceable. In my mind pets fall into this category along with family photos, heirlooms and anything else that people have an emotional attachment to. Value is so subjective.
Also, I wonder what a court would rule as "fair market value" for a pet. Would they consider all the time and money spent maintaining the health of the pet and training it? Replacing a well-trained dog isn't as simple as going down to the shelter and paying $150.