Americans Fear The Economy Their Children Will Face
According to the latest Reason-Rupe poll, Americans are most concerned that the nation's next generation of youth may face a weak economy and lack of jobs (45 percent). Their next top concerns are government debt and deficits (17 percent) and gun violence (13 percent). Environmental problems tied for fourth place with concerns about terrorism and war.
Republicans (29 percent) are far more concerned about the impact government debt and deficits will have on their children than Democrats (9 percent). And Democrats are far more concerned about gun violence than are Republicans. Interestingly regular Republicans, Independents and Independent-leaning Democrats are equally likely to be most concerned about the economy and jobs (50 percent), regular Democrats were 9 points less likely to agree. Independent-leaning Republicans were in fact equally concerned about the weak economy (36 percent) and government debt (35 percent).
Ideological groups, based on the Reason-Rupe Ideological Typology, all prioritize concerns about jobs and economy (46 percent), but differ on other concerns. Nearly 30 percent of libertarians and conservatives are most worried about government debt and deficits, compared to only 8 percent of liberals and 11 percent of communitarians. Liberals are the most likely group to be concerned about their children facing environmental problems (15 percent). Communitarians are the most likely group to be worried about gun violence (21 percent).
Men are about twice as likely as women to say they are most concerned about the impact of government debt and deficits affecting their children's future, whereas women are nearly twice as likely as men to be worried about gun violence. Although all racial groups are most concerned about jobs and the economy, African-Americans are more concerned about gun violence (31 percent) compared to Latinos (15 percent) and Caucasians (10 percent). Angst over gun violence declines with higher income and education levels, while worry over debt and deficits increases. Interestingly, respondents who say they do not attend religious services are equally likely to be concerned about environmental problems as they are about the national debt and budget deficit.
Nationwide telephone poll conducted February 21-25 2013 interviewed 1002 adults on both mobile (502) and landline (500) phones, with a margin of error +/- 3.8%. Columns may not add up to 100% due to rounding. Full poll results found here. Full methodology can be found here.
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Well duh.
I think we're underestimating just how fucked they'll be.
I have a feeling that we'll avert a total cataclysm and instead slowly decline into total irrelevance.
You know how to cheer a guy up on a Monday. Some mornings the coming cataclysm is all the reason I have to get up.
We will know we've fallen when the Quebecois horde loots DC and marches on to settle in the Carolinas.
This is why each American needs his own personal tactical nuke.
There is a city, located on the Potomac river, which should be very glad that this citizen doesn't have one.
Might behave differently if there were 310 million tactical nukes that could vote.
What do you have against Hancock, MD?
Shocked the hell out of those New Mexicans, didn't it?
when the Quebecois horde loots DC
The Super Mutant model suddenly makes perfect sense.
I'm okay with my Canadian born chef friend of whom possesses exceptional taste in all things. But if that horde of Canucks tries to import any shit Labatt or Molson, they'll wind up on top of the body heap I made out of the Coloradians who brought in the Coors. Coors, blech! That shit is a fucking hate crime.
Repudiation of the debt is the best chance our children have.
Repudiate the debt ... for the children.
http://mises.org/daily/6369/Th.....epudiation
The only chance out children have is to get government out of the way and allow people to engage in economic activity without first asking permission and then having to take orders.
Removing those barriers would shrink government while also allowing society to create the wealth necessary to pay off government debt.
Separation of church and state? How's about separation of state and economy.
America moves forward when the government moves out of the way.
That should be the Republicans slogan.
Instead, their slogan is : "We support slightly smaller government here at home and FAR more military intervention overseas than the Democrats."
That should be the Republicans slogan.
Go ahead. Pull the other one.
And TEAM Blue counters with Republicans don't care about Wimminz, Chilluns and Minerities.
Because you, you know, the best way to show you care is to support the dole and the bureaucracy that administers the dole.
When all else fails, the government will find better ways to make it worse.
Well, it sort of is their message, even though they don't mean it.
The problem is, 50% of Americans are not buying that message. The only message they are looking for is 'will provide you with more free shit'.
IOW, we are totally fucked.
I agree, but government repudiating the debt would ruin government's credit rating and would, by necessity, lead to a smaller and more controllable government.
I agree, but government repudiating the debt would ruin government's credit rating and would, by necessity, lead to a smaller and more controllable government.
Or complete tyranny.
Pretty hard to inflict tyranny when you have no money to buy bullets with.
Why buy them when you can simply take them?
That's why DHS already has a stockpile. /Alex Jones
And a cool new truck (see the next article).
Agreed; I'll take my chances with the Feds thrashing broke than the well-lubricated downhill slope.
What's the punchline to the old Soviet joke? "...even worse, they're out of bullets."
You have to get to a balanced budget to do that.
When you have to keep borrowing money to run the government defaulting on your debt is not really an option.
First!
Men are about twice as likely as women to say they are most concerned about the impact of government debt and deficits affecting their children's future, whereas women are nearly twice as likely as men to be worried about gun violence.
And which one is more likely to affect children's futures?
This is what I get for typing a long and meaningful comment.
I bet you won't make THAT mistake again!
Men are about twice as likely as women to say they are most concerned about the impact of government debt
Well, when you have a public education system controlled by the government, and the governments message to women is, you're a victim, you're being oppressed, you don't have any accountability because you're a victim, but don't worry, we'll take care of you.
You know, when that's the message you have heard all of your life, then why do you need to worry about silly things like government debt?
Wiminz only need to worry about Rethuglicans trying to put them back in chains, everything else is rainbows, free birth control, and unicorns.
"Men are about twice as likely as women to say they are most concerned about the impact of government debt and deficits affecting their children's future, whereas women are nearly twice as likely as men to be worried about gun violence."
Wisen the fuck up, women. Jesus.
What about the gun violence the Crooks in DC inflict upon people overseas?
NECESSARY FOR ARE CHILDREN TO BE SAVE
SUPPORT ARE TRUPES
A lot of our troops voted for Ron Paul in the Republican Primary, this tells me they understand the costs of war far more than Microphone Soldiers like Rush Limbaugh and Sean Hannity.
Needs a more Yada-ish phrasing:
NECESARY, CHILDREN TO BE SLAVES ARE.
TROOPS, SUPPORT MUST.
+5
Yoda's a Jew?
Yoda's Ferengi?!?
Ferengi speak Yiddish?
Yoda practices Kabbalah.
The Jedi Temple was built on top of Yoda's horde of gold pressed latinum.
That sounds like my house, alright.
Wisen the fuck up, women. Jesus.
Yeah, those stupid fucking women. You know who's even stupider than a disparate group of individuals who have little in common other than biology? A group of individuals who actually share an ideology based on responses to three questions in the poll: communitarians.
21% of communitarians are most worried about gun violence when it comes to the next generation (vs. 45% who are worried about a weak economy). That's four percentage points, or nearly 25%, more likely to be most worried about gun violence than women.
Are you saying that communitarians are even dumber than women???
ALMOST 25% DUMBER!
But aren't some fraction of communtarians women. Biologically females of the the woman variety? Maybe they blow the bell curve.
Look, Sug, I too wish the spreadsheet had cross-tabs. IT WOULD HAVE IF POSTREL WERE HERE.
Regression analysis. Hmm. I'll be in my bunk.
Don't be absurd, you can't be dumber than chicks.
This sounds right, but you're almost a woman, so I can't trust it.
I'm way dumber than a chick, dude. Now remember I have no regard for human life, most especially women, because they have the organs that I wish that I had so I wanna make a suit from them.
It wasn't meant as a widespread condemnation of women, so relax.
Next time I'll specify. It'll probably look something like this, just for you:
Wisen the fuck up, statist women (NOT NIKKI) who think gun violence is a more serious threat to our children's future than the current and future fiscal clusterfuckageddon.
I'm relaxed, I just think identity politics and collectivism are generally stupid.
Wisen the fuck up, women. Jesus
That's not going to happen as long as the current progressive regime is in charge of everything from government, to the courts, to education, most everything.
The problem is, is that women are being taught that they are 'empowered', but at the same time have no accountability. The message to women is, behave in any way you like, and if there are consequences, then it's not your fault, it's the fault of men, white men in particular, because you're a victim.
You can't play the role of lifetime victim and be expected to think about consequences at the same time.
And last, let me say, I am not talking about ALL women. Just the majority. I'm not a misogynist, I like women, some of them anyway, I even married one of them, so whoever wants to go there, fuck off before you get started, and have a nice day.
The message to women is, behave in any way you like, and if there are consequences, then it's not your fault, it's the fault of men, white, Republican men in particular, because you're a victim.
Are people actually fucking concerned about "gun violence"?!? Really?!?
I'm more concerned about violent guns.
What about gun-on-gun violence!? It's a never-ending spiral of death!
Shots were fired all over the place.
Boom! Bumper.
Stuff White People Like To Worry About
See also Frankenfoods and Peak Oil and...
What *other* people smoke, eat, drink and think.
That about covers it.
Knowing What's Best For Poor People.
http://stuffwhitepeoplelike.co.....or-people/
Yes, they're concerned about the gun violence after our complete collapse, when warlords rule city-states and wear leather outfits, even in the godawful heat caused by global warming and the nuclear war.
Just walk away, ProL. There can be an end to the horror, to the suffering. Just walk away.
With or without my guns?
There has been too much violence. Too much pain. But I have an honorable compromise, ProL. Just walk away. Give me your pump, the oil, the gasoline, and the whole compound, and I'll spare your lives. Just walk away and we'll give you a safe passageway in the wastelands. Just walk away and there will be an end to the horror.
So I get to keep my guns. Okay, fine.
Not to mention that I've booby-trapped the whole shebang as you'll find shortly.
No! It's my snake, I trained it, I'm going to eat it! I got a recipe for snake. Delicious. Fricassee of reptile. You are what you eat.
Wait, nuclear war would lead to a nuclear winter. Wouldn't that be the perfect way to combat global warming?
They don't want solutions; they want restrictions. Look at the massive freak out over the guy that tried seeding a patch of ocean with iron filings.
And their treatment of Bjorn Lumborg, because he actually tried to find cost-effective solutions instead of TOTAL CONTROL.
BURN THE HERETIC!
That's not very carbon neutral.
BURY THE HERETIC IN A CARDBOARD COFFIN!
That's better, but only if we use him for compost later.
And since cities have the highest rates of gun violence....Hey! I smell some synergy cooking....
That's what the Green Party thought when it took power. Apparently, it works the other way. Who knew?
I keep saying that, but no one listens.
Drop a few on North Korea and the world cools off a few degrees -- two birds with one nuke so to speak.
Wouldn't that be the perfect way to combat global warming?
How much revenue does it generate?
For NK? TRILLIONS.
wear leather outfits, even in the godawful heat
Just imagine what Lord Humongous' gang smelled like...
Maybe they mean gun violence inflicted by military-style police tactics and no-knock raids?
http://motherboard.vice.com/bl.....dley-balko
It's the diversion topic of the minute! We'll never have to try to fix the debt as long as there's a bogeyman to be exploited.
yes, the low-information voter is mightily concerned about the things the concern media tells him/her to be concerned about.
Apparently women really are that stupid.
Are people actually fucking concerned about "gun violence"?!? Really?!?
I'm concerned about it when cops have guns.
the "for the children" argument gets tiresome after a while. Hells bells, i'm worried about the economy for me and my wife. I have more than a few productive years left and the continued inaction by the Clown Prince of PA Ave and his Band of Fools in Congress is not encouraging.
Exactly. What economy will be around for the kids to face?
"Americans Fear The Economy Their Children Will Face"
But they keep voting for it.
People do not vote in their own interests, because the effectiveness of their vote is basically zero. They vote to indicate what they want people to know they stand for; for social reasons. So a person who will actually be harmed by voting for Obama will do so anyway because the value of their vote socially is vastly greater than the value of their vote for affecting policy.
I have a better explanation: Most people don't know what's in their best interest.
This would indicate that people are more prone to vote for their rational interests as the elections take place on smaller scales. This seems accurate at some level, but on the other hand there's Detroit.
FWIW, I do agree with the overall assessment. It's part of the reason why you tend to see people become more conservative / liberal over time depending upon their career.
So a person who will actually be harmed by voting for Obama will do so anyway because the value of their vote socially is vastly greater than the value of their vote for affecting policy.
That is exactly it. I know any number of die hard Obama voters who work for DOD. That is literally like working for the Fed and hoping Ron Paul some day becomes President. But it feels good to be a liberal. It feels good to spout meaningless talking points like "a balanced approach to the federal deficit" and of course it always feels good to vote for the black guy and show the world you are not one of the dreaded "other". Political views are nothing but fashion statements to most people.
That's part of it, but also most people, on both sides of the political spectrum, are woefully ignorant. They literally don't have a clue about the policies, much less the implications of those policies, of the people they vote for.
Political views are nothing but fashion statements to most people.
I agree with this. Just looking at the crap people put on Facebook to make themselves seem hip or smart mostly is posted by liberals/progressives. They think that the insipid trite "observations" about Rethuglicans make them seem edgy.
I had no idea so many people were so dumb.
In theory, don't we have a secret ballot? One could lie about whom one voted for.
But how does a vote have a social value, since it's actually secret?
VOTE WARTY 2016
A MERCIFUL END FOR YOUR CHILDREN
But what about for us?
Warty makes no promises to those who have struggled against him.
Okay...so what about for me?
Nicole shall reap what she has sown, as all shall when Warty reckons their worth.
Great, Nicole, you've secured yourself a spot as one of his brides. I hope you're happy.
You're actively trying to bring about CASE NIGHTMARE GREEN, aren't you.
Its pretty sad that eldritch horrors from another dimension that want to eat our brains are the only justification to the Panopticon society that pass the smell test.
SCORPION STARE is pretty much the only rational, non-Big-Brother explanation for Britain's security camera coverage. Too bad it's fiction.
It also explains the proliferation of front-face cell phone cameras and 3D cams. Don't forget Kinect (which is just a digicam coupled witg a laser)
I wanted to eat brains too, but the pickins were slim. I can't even aspire to being an eldritch horror, I'm kind of a garden variety horror.
But what about for us?
________
Who cares? Get back in the kitchen.
Warty can either be merciful or swift, but not both.
That's ripping off the Gorn Party's "Merciful and Quick" slogan.
No, it's contrasting my canidate with the Gorn Party's parade of losers they have put up for office. And Gore v Bush established that President's have to be mammals.
WARTY WAS BORN, NOT HATCHED!
The mammal requirement was mere dicta, not a formal ruling. And you have to give the Gorns this--their offer to exterminate us all quickly and relatively painlessly is increasingly tempting.
Dicta? I should slap that fancy lawyer learnin' right out of your mouth!
I face the creature the Metrons called a Gorn: large, reptilian. Like most humans, I seem to have an instinctive revulsion to reptiles. And to Warty.
I'm gonna need to see a long-form birth certificate to believe that.
Gorn v. Bush, you mean.
And now a response from the Gorn candidate:
ARRRRRRLLLLL...HSSSSSSS.....RRRRRRRRRLLLLLG!
Merciful? Like every other politician, your slogan is based on a lie.
WARTY-MOLOCH 2016!
Is STEVE SMITH your VP candidate?
No, he would need a bottom to 'balance the ticket'.
A power bottom?
Tony in a unity ticket.
STEVE SMITH NO NEED POWER BOTTOM. STEVE SMITH PRODUCE PLENTY POWER ALL BY STEVE SELF. STEVE NO WANT BLAME FOR SINGULARITY.
I was going to offer, but he wouldn't promise me mercy.
Like you'd want any.
Maybe a little...sometimes...
I was thinking that Warty will be the next pope.
The children are our future. I know, Randy Watson and Sexual Chocolate told me so.
I thought that was Whitney Houston.
California slips beyond parody.
The prospect of construction jobs in the recession-weary Central Valley has long been a selling point for proponents of California's $68 billion high-speed rail project.
A controversy has arisen, however, since officials pledged in December to reserve a portion of those jobs for certain disadvantaged people.
In addition to veterans, former foster children and single parents, the classification includes high school dropouts, the homeless and people who have been convicted of a crime.
"There's another chapter in the high-speed fail saga, and I almost can't do this one with a straight face," Assemblyman Brian Jones, R-Santee, said in a recent installment of "Are you kidding me?" -- a video series in which Jones vents political frustrations. "What a social engineering disaster this is going to be, and add to California's laughing-stock reputation."
http://www.fresnobee.com/2013/.....rylink=cpy
Why not? It's high time we saw some homeless representation in engineering jobs.
That is right.
If they can't build themselves a home, why should we trust them to build our light rails?
A better question is, why shouldn't we?
Umm. Because they can't construct a home out of scavenged materials... which is what I would expect even Industrial Engineers to do upon finding themselves homeless. Sure, the IEs would find it a challenge to do so without making spreadsheets, but they could manage.
Below, Brett. You are sooooo concerned with outcomes. How about a little sympathy for the worthless?!
I wouldn't call IEs worthless. Somebody hires them.
Warty, why do you wish to discriminate against the unskilled? Just because someone doesn't have any skills doesn't mean they shouldn't get to be architects or engineers!
Or at least receive equal paychecks.
OT:
Busty squad of fake Rachel Maddow fans promotes her show with identical spam tweets; Update: Accounts suspended, MSNBC tweets statement
:
L.O.L.
Apparently Special Ed Shultz has been doing the same thing. Doing government propaganda work without a government paycheck is tough. No one expected Pravda to pay for itself.
If not for fake Twitter-bots (with big tits, I guess Rachel likes dem titties), who would hashtag Rachel Maddow or her snooze button show?
I'm angry that there was no busty squad in the linked article. Therefore, Page 3.
Way OT: L.L. Cool J denies interest in Chris Dorner bio pic
Let Tarantino make it. The butt hurt from cops would almost be worth letting them glorify a murderer.
Actually Tarantino would be able to make a movie where no one is a hero, just different shades of evil.
So he'd make a documentary about the case?
He would. And of course, this guy is a cop, which makes the cop butt hurt a bit problematic. If you show him sympathetically you are glorifying a cop killer. If you show him to be a lunatic psycho, you are showing cops in a bad light.
I can see a Chris Dorner movie being pretty awesome, actually. Play up and satirize the rogue cowboy cop angle, combine it with some Natural Born Killers media satire, and add explosions.
http://www.politico.com/politi.....58389.html
No set price for meeting with Obama. It is a sliding scale like airline tickets. Haven't these people ever heard of individualized pricing?
Any notion that there is a set price for a meeting with the president of the United States is just wrong.
So there is no set price, but Carney acknowledges that a price exists?
Thanks Jay, you fucking halfwit, for demonstrating that the Obama Administration is the blind leading the deaf leading the stupid.
God he is such a fucking half wit. It is like someone made the Black Adder press secretary.
I say it every time, but I would've bet a fortune that Scott McClellan would be the least competent person to hold that job in the 21st century.
Tragedy will be rampant as millions of people my age, who have been emotionally and physically coddled their entire lives, will have to actually face adversity going forward and the responsibility of finding jobs so they can pay for the retirement of the people who created the mess in the first place.
Have fun!
I'm more and more grateful that my parents make me pay my own bills and rent and keep a job.
"I've always admired car owners and I hope to be one myself, as soon as I finish paying off mother. She insists I pay her retroactively for the food I ate as a child"
You might think that's funny. I have a friend whose father did that to them starting at about age 12. I think he said he was 23 before he finally broke even. It probably won't surprise you to hear that he doesn't speak to his father nor wishes to.
"Lousy traumatic childhood!"
He got billed for his Christmas presents. And his father was not poor either.
I had a another one ... but that's just to sad to make fun of. that's awful.
My dad's parents did basically this. And my dad is such a fucking moron that he didn't disown them.
Parents who really love their children kick their ass out the door the day they turn 18. This adult children shit is getting really old. What is it now, 26? Soon the gubmint will be calling 40 year olds, adult children.
I hope you snappers enjoy paying fer my healthcare and booze! Whoohooo, party time!
All your future are belong to us.
http://www.thegatewaypundit.co.....stockpile/
I have never been one of those "DHS is buying ammunition" paranoids. But MRAPs?
Like I said in the other thread, paying off a defense contractor crony is a better explanation.
that way they get to claim they cut defense spending and still get to pay off their cronies.
Military spending bubble. It's going to pop big time and this is just the latest effort by the gov't to stimulize the economy.
I fear abortion, circumcision and deep dish pizza.
Oh, and mayonnaise.
Nothing wrong with mayonnaise as long as it is not artisan.
Fuck. Yeah. The PID espresso machine I ordered from Kickstarter like two years ago finally has a ship date! Now I can tune my fucking espresso maker with science, bitches. Well. In 3-6 months. But IIRC, my name is like 25 of 6000 on the list and they were shipping from top to bottom.
Coffee tastes bad and you should feel bad for drinking it.
Stop drinking Starbucks and drink real coffee. I already roast my own. Now I just need to invent a chemical process that mirrors the digestive tract of the civet cat (to sell to rubes and hipsters -- I like my coffee shit free), and I will be totally vertically integrated.
Well, from that link, I learned that the Civet that makes the poop coffee has the scientific name Paradoxurus hermaphroditus. Now that I have learned something for the day, I'm taking a nap.
Would that be a cat nap?
I once had a sip of coffee. It tasted so bad that I had to eat a puppy to get the taste out of my mouth. You are a monster.
He should feel bad because of the oppressed labor being used to tend the coffee plantations of rich white dudes. I still drink coffee, but I feel bad about it.
This sounds like when the Shrike (belt fed upper for AR15 platforms) was first marketed. Get a bunch of people to preorder to fund your development and manufacturing, then piss everyone off by taki g 5years longer to deliver than you promisex.
If it works when it finally shows up, I'll be in geek fuckin' heaven.
"Hey, Brett, what are you up to?"
"I'm tuning my fucking espresso machine! I've finally got the block profile to maintain 4 9s consistency across the entire shot in both pressure and temp profile!"
"How does it taste?"
"What?"
Don't get me wrong: it's cool.
"the key is the level of quinic acid."
Note how all the Democrats and Lean democrats care about jobs, but don't give a shit about government spending and debt.
Because to them "goverment spending" = "jobs". Yet another indication of how the core Democratic constituency is people who make their living off of the government.
To the rest of us, government spending = taxes and a weak economy.
When you have a big government, the economy is good for you if you have a government job, even if it's bad for everyone else.
They honestly believe the NOVA/DC/MD economy is a model for prosperity.
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08......html?_r=0
Yes. As if the rest of the country wasn't effectively funding NOVA/DC/MD.
It's amazing how rich we are! It's like magic money raining from heaven! I have no idea where it comes from!
"I have no idea where it comes from!"
Fleece-over country, that's where it comes from.
It is as long as you can embrace the idea of stealing the rest of the country blind to pay for it.
Lean Democrats? Like David Lean? Are these Democrats who view themselves as Lawrence of Arabia, manipulating the Arabs for their own purposes?
Maybe the ones who think they are Hari Seldon.
While I like The Foundation quite a bit, I didn't laugh with glee while reading it, hoping that total control of the population was actually possible.
I imagine Asimov would've recoiled in horror at Krugman's worldview, too, even though he leaned left himself.
South Korean photographer's self portraits hanging out over dizzying heights.
http://www.foreignpolicy.com/a.....ew_heights
There is a dude that really knows what is going on. Wow.
http://www.AnonProx.da.bz