Barack Obama

On Guns, an Abuse of Power

Not a single one of the items Obama intends to implement would have stopped Adam Lanza.

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When Barack Obama implored Americans to "do the right thing" on gun restriction during a news conference this week, the "right thing" should have been obvious to everyone. Absolute moral authority—it's the only way to go.

If you fail to see the picture as clearly as the president, you may be an extremist or, more than likely, you're too feeble-minded to withstand the Jedi mind tricks employed by gun merchants or radio talk show hosts or the National Rifle Association or all those folks "ginning up fear" on the issue, according to a president who trots out 7-year-olds to shield him from debate.

Now, the 23 executive orders President Barack Obama signed that are aimed at "reducing gun violence" could be considered, at worst, cynically political or, at best, completely useless. But the way Obama treats the process, children, the debate, the Constitution and the American people is another story. Sen. Rand Paul recently remarked that "someone who wants to bypass the Constitution, bypass Congress—that's someone who wants to act like a king or a monarch." That may be a bit hyperbolic, but it is also a bit true.

"There are millions of responsible, law-abiding gun owners in America," lectured Obama, "who cherish their right to bear arms for hunting or sport or protection or collection." (Or—as it must have slipped the president's mind—the right to put a gun in a case labeled "open in case of tyranny.") The president went on to profess that he believes that the Second Amendment guarantees an individual the right to bear arms. If this were true for Obama, who was once a constitutional law lecturer at the University of Chicago, why would he attempt to restrict a right that is explicitly laid out in the Bill of Rights (even if it were eminently sensible) without putting it through the republican wringer—the deliberation, the checks and balances, all of it?

The president, who has often said he will work around Congress, also justifies his executive bender by telling us that Americans are clamoring for more limits on gun ownership. So what? These rights—in what Piers Morgan might call that "little book"—were written down to protect the citizenry from not only executive overreach but also vagaries of public opinion. Didn't Alexander Hamilton and James Madison warn us against the dangerous "passions" of the mob? It is amazing how many times this president uses majoritarian arguments to rationalize executive overreach.

And really, speaking of ginning up fear: "If there's even one life that can be saved, then we've got an obligation to try," the president said, deploying perhaps the biggest platitude in the history of nannyism. Not a single one of the items Obama intends to implement—legislative or executive—would have stopped Adam Lanza's killing spree or, most likely, any of the others. Using fear and a tragedy to further ideological goals was by no means invented by Obama, but few people have used it with such skill.

Now, when the Supreme Court solidified the right to an abortion via Roe v. Wade (now a constitutional right, unlike owning a gun in Chicago) and solidified the individual mandate found in Obamacare (now a constitutional right, unlike, say, the right of Catholics to be free of economic coercion), they became immovable legal precedents that may never be toyed with—ever. Well, even if you believe in banning "assault" weapons and high-capacity ammunition magazines, doesn't the Bill of Rights deserve at least that much deference?

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  1. And really, speaking of ginning up fear: “If there’s even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try,” the president said, deploying perhaps the biggest platitude in the history of nannyism.

    What about the lives of people who would defend themselves from criminals?

    I guess theirs are not worth saving.

    1. Is it just me, or did I just hear a knock at the door?
      Is that the SWAT team or Teh Boogerman?
      I can’t tell.
      You better load up, Nutter.
      You can never be too prepared when Teh Bad Guys come busting through you door.
      You want to be able to defend yourself.
      The non-insane portion of the country hopes the raid on your compound is televised, however. We actually enjoy seeing crazy people flame out.
      Best of luck.

      1. You are an evil human being.

      2. What is the fee to cross the bridge?

      3. “Nutter?” I smell a wig-wearing, shrill-shrieking closet-case from across the pond who’s still a little bitter about that whole “British Asses Thoroughly Kicked By American Firepower” thing.

      4. And here we have the intellectual equivalent of a popcorn fart.

        Yep, you can’t craft an intellectual argument, but can’t so you attempt ridicule.

        One word for you, condescension can never go up. Why don’t YOU go to the elementary school so you can possible find some intellectual inferiors.

        1. sorry for the typos, homebrew club meeting tonight.

      5. B

        Solid effort. I can feel my skin thickening as I type these words.

      6. A guy who enjoys watching government agents blow away innocent, unarmed people on national TV calling anyone else a nutter is a bit rich. Go jack off to your Waco footage again, you sick cunt.

      7. bad troll is bad. Try again later.

  2. Only the little people can’t afford to have armed body guards like our TOP MEN do.

  3. What I take from this is that if it’s important enough to Obama, he won’t let laws, the congress or the constitution deprive him of satisfaction.

    1. Six of the last fourteen have been southpaws.

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/H…..ted_States

      1. That’s a sinister statistic.

        1. You appear to have done something there – and observe it I did.

      2. All that means is that those of us with undiseased brains have the platoon advantage.

        1. you too? I thought I was the only one.

          1. In a…sinister coincidence, I actually revealed this today in AM links.

  4. OT: The kids can’t even get the MAD Magazine of my youth. It’s gone full lefty. Man do I hate leftists.

    1. At least you are willing to admit the source of the scourge devouring America and the Western world. Most of the hipster cosmo faggots on this site say there is no such thing as the left.

      We battle with people on the right over social conservatism and other stuff, but in a hierarchy of objective knowledge and values, you know who your worst enemies are.

  5. What a dick.

  6. Those kids look like they really don’t want to be there. I wonder what they were promised in exchange for standing there nicely and being political props. What a disgusting turd that guy is.

    1. Being a politician means having no shame.

  7. How many more Americans need to die to satisfy your gun fetish, Nutters.
    It’s a fkn parchment. Written centuries ago. Referring to muskets.
    That you Nutters have turned it into the most important thing in your pathetic, jobless, dickless lives has become comedy for the rest of us.
    Tide is turning, Nutters.
    Enjoy the Reason circle=jerk while you can.

    1. Signed,
      Nick Gillespie

    2. Tedious, retarded troll is tedious and retarded.

    3. Nutters = sign this person isn’t from here, and therefore has no place in the debate. Bugger along, wanker.

      1. He truly is a ponce.

      2. What a pillock.

    4. All of them. I won’t be satisfied until all Americans have been killed by sentient guns.

    5. Last I checked the parchment you think so highly of says nothing of muskets. The men that wrote the constitution were some of the most intelligent men of their day and I’m sure that they realized that new inventions would come out as time went by (thus guns would advance as well). Last I checked the EU has claimed that the UK is the most dangerous country in the union and after looking at the crime stats it shows that there is more violent crime per 100,000 in the UK than in the US.

      It’s like T.V.

      If you don’t like what’s on, change the channel. If you don’t like our constitution then leave.

      And don’t let the door hit you in the rear on the way out.

      1. I don’t know where you’re checking, but of all the gun deaths in all industrialized nations in the world 87% happen in America.

        Hey, I’m a proud gun owner. But I’m not exactly proud of the fact that we have more gun deaths here, than all those 23 other countries, combined.

        1. A gun is just a tool. Those statistics are looking at one single tool used to commit murder, not all the others, such as knives, hammers, clubs, explosives, poison, vehicles etc. etc.

          The availability of guns in the U.S. is going to skew the results of such biassed statistics. However, the real issue is murder, and when all of the tools used to murder are combined into one number for each country and weighted per-capita, then the U.S. ranks #100 !

          (Mexico has a complete gun ban, yet ranks #23 in murders by country. The African nations are the leaders in murder.).

          http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/L…..icide_rate

          1. Switzerland is ranked #192 on the number of murders by country, per-capita. (Out of 204 countries). This is despite the fact that Switzerland does not have gun control laws and almost every home has a fully-automatic assault-rifle.

            This is conclusive proof from the United Nations own data that the U.S. does not have a gun problem, but a murder problem!

      2. During the revolution itself, the rifled barrel was an American technological innovation that afforded greater range and accuracy than the standard-issue British muskets of the time, so of course the Framers would have anticipated further advances.

        1. Actually, I may be remembering middle school history class inaccurately, as the rifled barrel already existed, but certainly there must have been independence-minded gunsmiths around, so there’s still no reason to think the Framers wouldn’t have anticipated new advances.

    6. Fuck off Mary.

    7. You really should see a doc about your penis obsession, not that there’s anything wrong with that.

    8. How many more Americans need to die to satisfy your gun fetish…

      Roughly the same amount that need to die to satisfy my free speech fetish, my free association fetish, my freedom of religion fetish, my freedom from unreasonable search and seizure fetish, my freedom from self-incrimination fetish, and my due process fetish. Fuck off slaver.

    9. May only be two of us in this circle, but hi5

  8. If there’s even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try.

    So Obama will be shutting down the drone strike/assassination program today? Excellent!

    1. Nah, he’ll just repeal the 4th and 5th Amendments to make it easier to catch and convict criminals. Oh wait, he already signed the NDAA.

    2. I was *so* hoping Biden would lose it and slip into his mocking laughter of the debate with Ryan.

  9. A couple of years ago my deer rifle was stolen out of my car while I was visiting my mom who lives in a Louisiana city of about 50,000 people. I was up there for Christmas and to deer hunt on our family farm. I though my heirloom was gone forever. A day or two later I was called by the city police and told that they had my rifle. I drove to the station and was met by an old neighbor who is a cop and a longtime friend. He said they caught the thieves driving around town with my gun (and other stolen goods) and he simply handed me back the rifle in the police station lobby. I thanked him and walked out of the police station with a .243 rifle slung over my shoulder and back to my car. No police officers thought it strange or scary, nobody looked at me funny and there was no paperwork and no justification of why I needed my rifle back. I felt so free and thankful for my Southern heritage at that moment.

  10. “If there’s even one life that can be saved, then we’ve got an obligation to try,” – King Barack Hussein Obama

    Consider this President O-Hoo-Ha, 500,000 people incarcerated annually (for nonviolent drug offenses, avg.) with the average life expectancy in the U.S. being 78.5 yrs calculates out to. . . .6,369 lives lost to prohibition annually at the hands of our own government.

    So please quit with the bullshit ‘life is valuable to me’ Mr. Assassinator-in-chief. Our government commits to this day more deplorable and atrocious human rights violations than all of the terrorists in the world combined have harmed us in any ten years of your choosing.

  11. I agree in that I really hate the way Obama conducts himself. He always feels that his ideas are correct and those who disagree are just poor ignorant folks that have been brainwashed by special interests and talk show hosts instead of addressing their very logical concerns with his plans. He has taken this approach with every issue in his presidency.

    He loves to talk about how “the majority” of people agree with him, even if that “majority” is 50.1 vs 49.9. It’s clear that your either his follower that receives his showering of federal money or your an outcast enemy that he feels justified in exploiting.

    Then when a small yet vocal opposition group gets enough attention, they are given a pass or bought off to shut them up.

  12. My personal favorite is “Nominate an ATF director.”

    It was a tough decision to make, to nominate an ATF director, but Obama has never backed down from these kinds of responsibilities. I’m sure some young fella out there intent on mass murdering a bunch of defenseless children stopped when he heard that and said, “Holy fuck. He’s going to nominate an ATF director. I guess I won’t be able to slaughter innocent kids now. Maybe I’ll just watch Glee reruns instead.”

    1. What? Not an ATF Czar?

    2. I know what you mean, the regime is against blowing up planets.

  13. “executive bender” = best description yet. It implies a stark raving madman, drunk with power.

    This is absolutely jaw dropping. I’m a New Yorker who was turned into a felon overnight this week, and I’d never thought I’d say this, but Texas is looking pretty good at the moment. Austin, TX that is.

    “Keep Austin Weird”. No prob lol

  14. Wow! My comment was not screened by mods before being posted. Bye, bye Huff Post. Think I’m on to something.

    1. This board is about as unmoderated as it gets, snapshot. As you’ll find out if you browse around here. Just stay away from any mention of lawyers and screwing sheep, and you should be O.K.

      If you have Chrome, Reasonable is a great extension.

      Re, Texas: Come on out! The state is great, and much more diverse and tolerant than its reputation back East would suggest. Austin is a good airlock to adjust your perceptions from either New England or the Left Coast to Texas.

      1. So true. We had to follow a job from Austin to the East Coast. We are really missing TX these days!

      2. Could you tell me what “Reasonable” does? Thanks!

  15. Rifle owners have never been more frightened, metal doors
    and shuttered windows offer no protection. The night invader`s eyes are not on
    electronic things but only on the gun owners most guarded treasure. The
    lovelorn beast has been in the cold too long and desperately needs the white
    heat of a screaming and scratching vixen. Fortunately a bullet found its mark and the
    night invader found no warmth as he was buried in the snow under the porch.

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  17. David, Is it just cause you’re a guy, or can I have some of what you’re smoking?

    Rights under Roe v Wade “can’t be toyed with”? Are we living under a rock, perhaps. Why don’t you visit frigging KANSAS where laws passed this year make it virtually impossible to get an abortion… only one clinic is left in entire state… and legislature has kept it closed for most of last year.

    Gun owners might be more respected if we stopped the hyperbole & fun facts we seem to be manufacturing to support our arguments… not to mention the evisceration of any liberal daring enough to comment here.

    What our party has long forgotten is that if we want to win the policy wars, we first have to win the war of public opinion. And right now,we’re looking like lunatics. Personally, I’m mystified why we’re making all the noise about Obama, who has an F from the gun control lobby, and under whom enforcement of gun laws is far less vigorous than it was under either presidents Bush. Not only hasn’t Obama proposed taking 1 gun away, one of the first things he did was grandfather in all the guns we all own now.

    Let’ face it, the only explanation liberals can think of for our anti-Obama obsession has more to do with his ethnicity, than executive orders. If you read some of the comments right here on this site, you won’t have to wonder why they think we’re all bigots.

    Call me crazy, but if we don’t clean up our proverbial act, they’re going to be calling ALL of us that.

  18. Let’s stop focusing on gun control and start looking at gun storage. A ban violates the 2nd amendment and won’t do anything to make folks safer.

    Most important, it just might have stopped (or at least slowed down) Adam Lanza. The most promising option is locks open only with the owner’s fingerprint. IPhones are supposedly going to have them in the near future. If it’s cost-effective for cell phones, it’s should be for guns.

    Buying them shouldn’t be mandatory.But, those who do should get a tax credit. Those who don’t will be at greater risk of someone else using their gun in a felony… a risk including hefty fines and, in the case of murder or manslaughter, real jail time (unless they had already been reported their guns lost or stolen.)

    Some years ago, when they made bar owners responsible for car crashes customers’ got in, after being over served,. most got damn serious about how drunk they got their customers & didn’t let’ them drive home if they were over the limit.

    Gun owners who take safe storage seriously would have zero to worry about. Those who are careless with their firearms won’t get a lot of sympathy from me… with or without any new guidelines. I believe we have an absolute right that must not be infringed under the 2nd amendment. But it’s a right that come with responsibilities.

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  20. Obama treats the process, children, the debate, the Constitution and the American people is another story. Sen

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