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Politics

This Isn't the Way the World Ends, Obama Names Kerry to State, No Warrants for Emails: P.M. Links

Scott Shackford | 12.21.2012 4:30 PM

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  • In case you weren't sure, the world has not ended.

  • But unless we put armed guards in every single school in America, the NRA thinks the world just might end.
  • As had been widely speculated, President Barack Obama has named Sen. John Kerry to succeed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.
  • The part that requires the government to get probable-cause warrants to access private emails has been stripped from federal privacy legislation.
  • Thanks to the fiscal cliff impasse shoving aside the farm bill, the feds may have to follow protectionist dairy regulations that could cause milk prices to more than double.
  • A student came up with an idea to surprise his schoolmates by coming to school dressed as Santa Claus. But because of the secretive way he wrote about it on Facebook, authorities panicked and thought he was threatening violence.
  • Port strikes could hit coastal cities along the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic as negotiations between longshoreman's unions and the U.S. Maritime Alliance break down.

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  1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    In case you weren't sure, the world has not ended.

    Wait, that was today?

    1. A Serious Man   13 years ago

      Wouldn't it be on Mexican time? In that case it may end yet. In fact, I hearby declare this the Reason Hit and Run End of the World Confession thread. Any secrets you don't want to take with you you may disclose here.

      1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        Even the Mayans way back when knew that the only time zone worth a shite is the eastern time zone. EST REPRESENTS! That's my secret.

        1. GILMORE   13 years ago

          Yo man, East Coast in the house, we know what time it is, knowwhatimsayin'

          but you gotta give mad props up to my peoples in the GMT; mad science, old school...

          1. wareagle   13 years ago

            I hate EDT. Grew up in Central, moved to Eastern for 20 years and never got accustomed to it, back to Central which is the true time of all the gods. And non-gods.

            1. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

              If you don't live on Mountain time, you are worse than Hitler.

              1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

                **pricks FdA with a gom jabbar**

                1. BlogimiDei   13 years ago

                  Jihadist!

                  -Muad'Dib

                2. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

                  Okay Kyle MacLachlan.

              2. Sudden   13 years ago

                I live in the Jimmy Buffet time zone, where it's always 5 o'clock....

                or at least it would be if Postrel were still around.

            2. SIV   13 years ago

              EDT is CST

              1. Xenocles   13 years ago

                "EDT is CST"

                You need to turn your map 180 degrees.

                1. SIV   13 years ago

                  D'oh!

      2. Episiarch   13 years ago

        I once went to a Bon Jovi concert.

        (cringes)

        1. GILMORE   13 years ago

          You give everything a bad name

          1. C. Anacreon   13 years ago

            Whenever I hear that song I think it would make a great Band-Aid commercial. Played over shots of caring mothers treating their kids' cuts and scrapes with the title bandages, then the refrain,
            "You give love, with Band-Aids."

        2. Dr. Frankenstein   13 years ago

          My first concert was Heart.

          1. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

            Rolling Stones 1975 "It's Only Rock & Roll" Tour. Front and Center.

            1. heller   13 years ago

              Bob Dylan

              1. SIV   13 years ago

                CDB

                It was either free or a buck at a local community college and my friend's parents dropped us off into the thick fog of marijuana smoke. I was 12.

                You older cosmotarians would probably like my 2nd one better: Harry Chapin.

              2. heller   13 years ago

                2nd was Rolling Stones, 3rd was Sonic Youth.

            2. EDG reppin' LBC   13 years ago

              Eric Clapton in Indianapolis (August '85?). Clapton, Donald "Duck" Dunn bass, Steve Cropper guitar, and Phil Collins pounding the skins. It was the first time I got high. Good show.

              1. wareagle   13 years ago

                Foreigner. With Cheap Trick as the opening act. Back when arenas had no seats on the floor. Good times.

                1. PapayaSF   13 years ago

                  It may have been my first, or near to it: Hawkwind, with opening acts Kiss and Suzi Quatro.

                  1. SIV   13 years ago

                    That sounds like a good show and I hate KISS.

                    My 3rd was a great card. Blondie and Tom Petty and the Heartbreakers opening for The Kinks in 1977.

            3. Zeb   13 years ago

              Rush, motherfuckers!

              1. BlogimiDei   13 years ago

                The Bestie Boys - 1986 The Summit in Houston

            4. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

              Iron Maiden - Number of the Beast tour.

            5. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

              The Cure.

              1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

                The Soul Merchants!

            6. JW   13 years ago

              Jethro Tull, when I was 15.

              Queen still ranks as one of the best shows I ever saw.

            7. Brian Combs   13 years ago

              Stevie Ray Vaughan at Austin Aquafest circa 1985.

            8. C. Anacreon   13 years ago

              Aerosmith 1975

            9. Troy muy grande boner   13 years ago

              AC/DC, 1988 Festhalle, Franfurt Germany

            10. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

              The Police/Joan Jet/REM/Madness, 1983 at the Vet.

          2. Episiarch   13 years ago

            I like Heart. If that's your confession you're going to need to get a hell of a lot more depraved than that, like the time I went to see Armageddon in the theater.

            1. Dr. Frankenstein   13 years ago

              I liked the first Transformers movie. And as a Chicagoan I like both deep dish and thin crust pizza.

              1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                You're dead to me. Dead!

                1. Dr. Frankenstein   13 years ago

                  We're all going to be dead that's the point.

                  With that, See you all in Hell. I'll save you a seat at the bar. Here's to the next end of the world. From what I understand sometime after Pope Benedict dies.

            2. Jerry on the road   13 years ago

              At least you didn't go see Pearl Harbor, or did you?

              1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                If I had, don't you think that would have been my confession?

                1. Jerry on the road   13 years ago

                  Not if you also bought the deluxe box set edition.

                  1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                    The Collected Works of Michael Bay: Criterion Collection

                    1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

                      Why don't you go watch some more episodes of Girls?

                    2. SIV   13 years ago

                      PWND!

            3. Archduke Pantsfan   13 years ago

              I saw "The Core" on opening night.

          3. Wastelander   13 years ago

            Stones. Philly. '97 or '98. Blues Traveler opened. Nosebleed seats. Traded a pair of slacks for my ticket. Had been sold on the concert with the promise that said ticket was "2nd row". True enough, it was the second row in that particular section. Slacks were polyester anyway. "Sympathy for the Devil" alone made me a net beneficiary in that trade.

          4. The Bearded Hobbit   13 years ago

            Iron Butterfly for their "Inna-Godda-da-Vida" tour. Buffalo Springfield was the opening act but one of the drummers missed the bus and was late. The pre-warmup band did a 45 minute cover of "Spoonful" while they were waiting.

            Good times.

            ... Hobbit

          5. C. Anacreon   13 years ago

            Aerosmith in nineteen seventy-five

        3. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          My first concert was Weird Al.

        4. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

          I'm sure that my concert of "note" is FAR worse than anyone here.

          I once went to . . .

          gulp . . .

          cringe . . .

          Wham.

          1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

            I hope the chick you were dating was worth it.

            1. SIV   13 years ago

              What a heteronormative statement to make, especially to a guy who saw Wham.

      3. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

        Also, to win arguments on the internet, I sometimes compare my opponent to Hitler.

        1. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

          You know who else did that?

          1. R C Dean   13 years ago

            That Godwin fellow?

          2. Randian   13 years ago

            Piers Morgan.

          3. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

            Greg Gutfeld?

          4. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

            Enough About Palin?

          5. C. Anacreon   13 years ago

            Bob Crane?

        2. CE   13 years ago

          That's okay, to win arguments on the internet, I sometimes accuse my opponents of comparing the actions I'm defending to things Hitler did. Somehow that preemptively defeats them, even if they have a good point.

      4. Ska   13 years ago

        A made out with a Catholic chick at the Passion of the Christ while sitting behind a pair of nuns. Yes, I felt her up too.

        1. RBS   13 years ago

          A bunch of us dressed up as the crew of the Challenger(post explosion) for Halloween.

        2. Episiarch   13 years ago

          How is that a confession and not bragging?

          1. nicole   13 years ago

            Um, because The Passion is snuff?

            1. Episiarch   13 years ago

              So let's see: he got a chick to go to a snuff film where he made out with her and fingerbanged her (I'm assuming) and did it behind some nuns. THAT'S BRAGGING.

              1. nicole   13 years ago

                Have you ever seen The Passion? Nothing that involves seeing the passion is a brag. My whole confession could be that I saw most of The Passion.

                1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                  He didn't see The Passion, he was busy making out. See how utterly wrong you are here? You can't out think me, nicole, for I am a man and you are but an illogical female. You can't emote your way out of this. Stop crying!

                  1. nicole   13 years ago

                    Oh goddamn you. I wasn't going to bring this up, but you know who else liked Bon Jovi? My mom. That's right, I said you love Twilight.

                    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                      I'M GOING DOWN IN A BLAZE OF BELLA

                    2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

                      Bill Belichick.

                2. A Serious Man   13 years ago

                  I saw it with my dad when I was 12. The only time I cringed was when he was being flogged with the cat-o'nine-tails whip and when they actaully nail him to the cross.

                  Anyhow, I have long maintained that Gibson is a geuninely talented director and that The Passion is a well-staged, well-done film that's much more personal for people who are actually religious.

                  1. PapayaSF   13 years ago

                    Never saw that one, but I think Apocalypto is excellent, and not just because it's a first-rate action film. If it had been done by some no-name foreigner it would have been hailed as a triumph.

                3. Ska   13 years ago

                  It all felt very sacrilicious.

                  1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                    See? He just can't stop bragging.

              2. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

                So let's see: he got a chick to go to a snuff film where he made out with her and fingerbanged her (I'm assuming) and did it behind some nuns. THAT'S BRAGGING.

                Ska is a he?!?

                1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                  Sometimes.

                2. protefeed   13 years ago

                  If it was lesbian fingerbanging, that would be bragging even more.

          2. Dagny T.   13 years ago

            Ugh. Idiot. Refresh is my friend.

        3. Dagny T.   13 years ago

          Disqualified for not knowing the difference between confession and bragging.

        4. GILMORE   13 years ago

          I cheered when ET was dying. I didn't understand the movie. I thought he was an invader.

      5. EDG reppin' LBC   13 years ago

        I am T o n y.

        1. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

          I knew it.

      6. A Serious Man   13 years ago

        I am Mike Riggs.

        1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

          I am Spartacus.

      7. Jerry on the road   13 years ago

        Just last week I had to relisten to the album Dropped by Consolidated.

        1. SIV   13 years ago

          Worst...Band...Ever...

      8. The Bearded Hobbit   13 years ago

        Any secrets you don't want to take with you you may disclose here.

        My horrible secret is. . . that I have no horrible secrets.

        ... Hobbit

    2. Dr. Frankenstein   13 years ago

      It's the end of the world as we know it. And I feel fine.

      1. BlogimiDei   13 years ago

        It's time I spent some time alone.

        1. Generic Stranger   13 years ago

          I drink alone.

          Yeah, with nobody else.

          Because when I drink alone

          I prefer to be by myself.

  2. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    As had been widely speculated, President Barack Obama has named Sen. John Kerry to succeed Secretary of State Hillary Clinton.

    So Warren will now be Big Chief Senior Senator? The Dems must be pretty confident with their prospects in Mass.

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      She heap qualified for top man on totem pole.

      1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

        How?

        1. Episiarch   13 years ago

          Paleface doctor heap unfamiliar with racist sarcasm. Like wigwam, only different.

          1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

            Smartazz awesomebro heap FAIL reading comprehension. **passes peace pipe**

            Medicine Man Maximus catch big WHOOSH that flew over head...

          2. C. Anacreon   13 years ago

            You can't say "squaw" anymore because apparently that is not an Indian word for woman, but more of an equivalent for calling someone a "cunt." People out West have been fighting to change the name of Squaw Valley ski resort for quite awhile now.

    2. R C Dean   13 years ago

      I'm amazed that the only Native American Senator isn't on the Committee for Indian Affairs.

      What a slap in the face to the Amerind Community which she so proudly represents.

      1. RBS   13 years ago

        Hahaha.

  3. A Serious Man   13 years ago

    HEEEEYYYYY SEXY LADY: Gangnam Style hits one billion views on YouTube.

    And not to be outdone, Pakistani Londong immigrant fishmonger Muhammad Nazir has his own viral video about....One Pound Fish. But the dancers in the video are hot.

    1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

      People listen to "Gangam Style" as comedy, right?...RIGHT?!

      1. Atanarjuat   13 years ago

        It's kindof the tulip bulb craze, I guess. People listen because other people listen.

      2. Ted S.   13 years ago

        Some of us try not to listen to it at all.

        (I hate K-Crap music.)

        1. Dagny T.   13 years ago

          K-Crap can be strangely intoxicating. If you hate someone, get his woman addicted to Korean dramas (aka mini-series soap operas). I went through a phase. This probably qualifies as my End of the World confession.

          1. nicole   13 years ago

            Strangely mirroring my bff...

            1. Dagny T.   13 years ago

              It helps to have a guide, because some of them are too sappy even for me. Favorite, in case you have time to kill over the holidays, would have to be this one. There, now hopefully someone will bitch at us for talking about such girly stuff.

              1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

                Oh god...they showed that shit in Thailand when Jewel in the Palace was big.

                Every Korean song, movie, and television show I have ever heard or seen sucked giant donkey dick.

                It's enough to make a man play Starcraft for 48 hours straight.

                1. Professor Booty   13 years ago

                  Try these:

                  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0364569/

                  http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0374546/

                  1. Dagny T.   13 years ago

                    Oh, Prof. Booty (awesome name), you just reminded me of one of the greatest movies ever: Untold Scandal! It is marvelous. There is plenty of nudity, and sword fighting, and beautiful costumes, and Dangerous Liasons-style sexual shenanigans. I don't actually know what more you could ask for in a film. Untold Scandal!

                  2. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

                    Both of those look pretty good. Maybe they'll break the giant donkey dick trend?

              2. SIV   13 years ago

                I got nothin'

          2. Ted S.   13 years ago

            One of the NYC-area channels that I get on DirecTV is an ethnic/brokered station that has two hours of Korean programming every evening. The drama that airs on weeknights is invariably sappy, from what I've seen. They show history-themed serials on the weekends, which at least seem to have good production values. (I wonder just how much color the clothes had in real life.)

      3. Xenocles   13 years ago

        It actually is a parody of sorts.

      4. Zeb   13 years ago

        The song and video are obviously intended to be humourous, so I would hope so. I think it's pretty funny.

    2. Ska   13 years ago

      Not sure I want to know about Pakistani Londong.

    3. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      This is the one true Gangnam Style. The fat dork with glasses can kindly fuck off.

  4. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

    It's nice that Obama has named Kerry to succeed Hillary. I knew this administration could suck harder if they'd only put their hearts into it.

    1. iggy   13 years ago

      This is the worst cabinet the country has ever had. Easily.

      1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

        It's like Obama is assembling the Dream Team of incompetence. All he needed to do was get rid of Hillary (who, let's face it, didn't totally buy in as a team player) with somebody who actually couldn't less popular if he tried: John Kerry.

    2. SIV   13 years ago

      Bill Kristol preferred Susan Rice. I call this a "win".

    3. 21044   13 years ago

      ^^This^^

    4. The Other Kevin   13 years ago

      Can't wait to see Kerry in hard-nosed negotiations with Putin. Also, windsurfing.

      1. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

        "I was winning the negotiation before I lost it."

  5. Sam Grove   13 years ago

    "the feds may have follow protectionist dairy regulations"

    That's not the grammar I know.

    1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

      The feds hate protectionist regulations almost as much as they hate artificially raising the price of things. Actually, exactly as much.

  6. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    The part that requires the government to get probable-cause warrants to access private emails has been stripped from federal privacy legislation.

    Like they're not reading your eCards already.

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      Like we didn't know this was going to happen.

    2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      So they passed a Constitutional Amendment?

    3. Jersey Patriot   13 years ago

      Who still uses email?

  7. nicole   13 years ago

    This morning we had the SI Swimsuit Edition, and this afternoon, behold: superhot French rugby players. You're welcome, half-a-dozen of you.

    1. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

      That is some Grade-A gay shit right there.

      1. Episiarch   13 years ago

        THIS IS WHY THERE ARE NO FEMALE LIBERTARIANS

        1. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

          Right, because straight guys nude arm wrestle all the fucking time.

          1. Episiarch   13 years ago

            You looked at the pictures? That's totally gay.

          2. nicole   13 years ago

            Duh. And straight girls have naked pillow fights all the time. What's your point?

            1. A Serious Man   13 years ago

              True. Sororties and fraternities really take the whole "Greek living" thing a bit literally.

            2. Episiarch   13 years ago

              They...don't? Yes they do. Of course they do. Nude. Right?

              1. nicole   13 years ago

                Sometimes we wear underwear, what with all the jumping and bouncing.

            3. Enough About Palin   13 years ago

              "And straight girls have naked pillow fights all the time."

              Pictures or it didn't happen.

              1. iggy   13 years ago

                I see straight girls have naked pillow fights all the time. Admittedly, that's usually because I'm forcing them to at gunpoint.

                This is why we need stronger gun laws. So freaks like me can't exercise my perversions.

                1. CE   13 years ago

                  Just search the Internet.

              2. protefeed   13 years ago

                Pictures or it didn't happen.

                Just google it. Though how you would determine if they were straight or not is beyond me.

      2. Ted S.   13 years ago

        Austria's young farmers

        There's calendar for men, and a calendar for women, regardless of whether you're gay, straight, or bi.

        The only thing there isn't is one for Warty.

        1. Warty   13 years ago

          Yes there were. There were goats in that calendar, you idiot.

          Also, February Girl is the winner.

          1. Francisco d Anconia   13 years ago

            And a chicken.

    2. Tonio   13 years ago

      Thanks, Nicole.

      1. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

        Don't ever say I didn't do anything for you, Tonio.-)

        Pavel's Tumblr.

        Pozhalujsta, moj drug.-)

        NSFW!!!!

        Also, it's 00.26, 12-22-12 in Donets'k, the world, so far, seems in no danger of ending.

    3. Warty   13 years ago

      Are they better than your boyfriend Gregor Edmunds, though? I just need to know if you're leaving him, that's all.

      1. nicole   13 years ago

        I am, Warty. The last guy('s ass) is too perfect.

  8. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    But because of the secretive way he wrote about it on Facebook, authorities panicked and thought he was threatening violence.

    Santa Claus is a religious icon that has no place in a school. TAKE HIM DOWN.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      For those too lazy to RTF247:

      "Students of cchs ur in for a big surprise tomorrow ."

      That's apparently the threatening passage.

      1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

        GIVE ME AN EDIT BUTTON REASON!

        Including the part that cut chopped off due to Reason's inequality phobia:

        "Students of cchs ur in for a big surprise tomorrow [angle bracket]let the games begin[angle bracket]."

  9. A Serious Man   13 years ago

    Argentine woman wants to marry the man convicted of murdering her sister.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      Maybe she got off on an accessory charge?

    2. PapayaSF   13 years ago

      That is even more screwed up than the standard "I've fallen in love with a locked-up killer I've never met" crap.

      There's probably a "single women voting for Obama" joke in here, but I'll pass on it.

      1. Zeb   13 years ago

        Apparently she thinks he's innocent. So that's a bit less screwed up than it might be.

        1. Eduard van Haalen   13 years ago

          OK, I see Antonio Banderas as the wrongfully-convicted prisoner, Salma Hayek or Eva Longoria as the woman who believes in his innocence and wants to marry him, Matt Damon as the Special Forces operative who springs Banderas from prison, and Michelle Rodriguez as Damon's romantic interest/fellow-commando. With Zack Galifianakis as the comic-relief - let's make him an American tourist.

          But that's just off the top of my head. It all depends on who we can get.

          1. Zeb   13 years ago

            Yeah, that sounds about right.

  10. A Serious Man   13 years ago

    Pronunciation Nazi Pat Sajax cheats Wheel of Fortune contestant out of prize money over missing 'g' sound in puzzle answer.

    1. Ted S.   13 years ago

      At least he's not going to lecture you on how you need to know more about Canada.

      (And I'm sure it was the producers who would have told him not to accept it.)

    2. CE   13 years ago

      In fairness to Pat, he IS running a game based on spelling correctly.

      1. PapayaSF   13 years ago

        It's a close call, but yes, I'd go with Sajak on this.

      2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

        She had already spelled out the G.

    3. Episiarch   13 years ago

      DON'T TALK SHIT ABOUT PAT SAJAK

    4. Emmerson Biggins   13 years ago

      I now consider Sajak a turd burglar.

      1. Dr. Frankenstein   13 years ago

        That's Alex Trebek.

    5. Omni   13 years ago

      My favorite Wheel of fortune moment...

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xnxx1mWN-B0

  11. 21044   13 years ago

    John Kerry, jeebus! If selecting Joe Biden wasn't a good enough reason to doubt Obama's executive decision making abilities, John Effing Kerry as SOS!

    Biden and Kerry, some of the only US national level politicians that make Niel Kinnock look good.

    There is a good quality, I guess you'd call it, about Biden though. If Obama puts him in charge of anything it is a good indication that Obama cares not about the success of whatever project Biden was selected to "lead".

    1. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

      It really does seem like the most vital characteristic of his staff is "don't make the boss look bad by comparison."

      1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

        I'm much more cynical than that. I believe Obama thinks John Kerry would be good at the job.

        1. 21044   13 years ago

          If you are right, we're eff'd.

          1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

            This is the same guy who defends Eric Holder. Why would he have any problems with John Kerry?

            1. SIV   13 years ago

              Obama's best cabinet pick by far. Bil Kristol is whining that Kerry is too "non-interventionist".

            2. PapayaSF   13 years ago

              Kerry's another rich leftist who feels guilty about the history of the United States and wants us to be some sort of giant multicultural Scandinavia, so he's on Obama's wavelength.

  12. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

    Port strikes could hit coastal cities along the Gulf of Mexico and Atlantic...

    I would just bypass the ports and deliver goods directly inland. Take that, longshoremen!

    1. Tonio   13 years ago

      WTF, Fist?

      1. Episiarch   13 years ago

        He's joking. He's always joking. In fact, never take him seriously. I suggest ignoring him. I do, every day.

        1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

          You mean, let me understand this cause, ya know maybe it's me, I'm a little fucked up maybe, but I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to fuckin' amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?

          1. Episiarch   13 years ago

            I'M IGNORING YOU RIGHT NOW.

          2. Resto Druid FTW   13 years ago

            LOVE. THAT. MOVIE.

            1. Stormy Dragon   13 years ago

              Is it bad that I love the network television version of the movie for all the silly replacement swearing?

          3. A Serious Man   13 years ago

            Needs more Peppermint Patty.

            1. Fist of Etiquette   13 years ago

              And then there's this.

    2. 21044   13 years ago

      Or via Canuckistan

    3. CE   13 years ago

      But the NAFTA Superhighway was never finished!

  13. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

    And the Grand Jury Prize For the Best Example of Respect In this Respectful Gun Debate On the Left That We've All Come To Respect Goes To...

    One of the most annoying things that happens post-massacre is the gun nuts who can't even wait until the bodies are cold to seize on this opportunity to do their very favoritest thing in the world: wank on endlessly about about the various features of their favorite killing machines in excruciating detail, hoping you're impressed by what manly man men they are.

    Got that?

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      I can't repeat this enough: TEAM BLUE is the literal personification of the concept of projection. If TEAM BLUE is accusing someone of something, it is an ironclad guarantee that they are doing it themselves.

    2. nicole   13 years ago

      The rationale for this is their claim that this information is necessary to discuss gun control, but of course, it's actually done in an effort to shut down productive conversation.

      HAHAHAHA seriously though, no more Amanda Marcotte. I always forget she writes at Raw Story now and click through completely unsuspecting.

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

        I'm a generous soul; it pains me to keep such talent and insight tucked away for no one else to see.

      2. nicole   13 years ago

        You don't need to know absolutely everything about internal insurance billings or the practice of medicine to support health care reform. You don't need to know everything about the molecular structure of drugs in order to support FDA regulation of them. We hire experts to do this stuff and give them general parameters to work with. That's how regulation works.

        I'm definitely starting to think peak retard is a myth.

        1. Episiarch   13 years ago

          I used to think sage was hyperbolic, but this kind of shit is changing my mind. The lack of self-awareness is...shocking. It's actually shocking. How does a person become like this?

          1. wareagle   13 years ago

            by never questioning what they hear all through childhood into young adulthood. By focusing on intentions rather than results and by equating politics with religion, wherein believing one's own dogma requires treating others' dogma as utter bullshit.

            The true believers of any faith think everyone else is doomed to hell, evil, or both and probably worse. Same with the Team crowd.

          2. nicole   13 years ago

            But I'm the one who's supposed to still be shocked. You're supposed to be un-shock-able.

    3. iggy   13 years ago

      Protecting your rights against people who are taking advantage of dead bodies means that you are taking advantage of dead bodies.

      Redefining words is also a very common progressive trait. How do you think they came to be called progressives.

    4. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      Amanda Marcotte, like most idiots, is fixated on her pussy.

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

        Most idiots are fixated on Marcotte's pussy?

        Truly a terrifying existence.

        1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

          Even now, we're working on weaponizing it. It will be our final line of defense against dread Cthulhu (who should be waking up in a little under 8 hours, assuming the Mayans were on Pacific Time).

    5. Coeus   13 years ago

      And the comments are excruciating. Now she's basically given them permission to be wrong about every fact possible, so they act proud for calling for non-nonsensical laws.

  14. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

    http://www.avclub.com/articles.....rin,90186/

    Spin magazine ceases print publication. I did like their Kurt Cobain photography.

    1. SIV   13 years ago

      I didn't know Spin was still around. I used to read the very short Byron Coley pieces at the news rack.

    2. Ted S.   13 years ago

      Weren't they part of the HIV-doesn't-cause-AIDS nonsense back in the early 1990s?

      1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

        What causes it then?

        1. RBS   13 years ago

          The Government, duh.

          1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

            The government could be that evil, but never that successful.

        2. Ted S.   13 years ago

          I have no idea what they claimed as an alternative. I only remember the college radio station subscribing to Spin and browsing it a couple of times. One of the end-of-year issues congratulated themselves for a poll with increased support for the idea that it's not HIV that causes AIDS.

          1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

            The good thing about college students, though, is that they're probably already taking a microbiology course, anyway...Probably. It's just a matter of time before their misconceptions are corrected.

          2. RBS   13 years ago

            Are you trying to summon Terry Michael?

      2. GILMORE   13 years ago

        I think you're thinking of the former president of South Africa, Mbeki? He said AIDS could be averted with a warm shower.

  15. GILMORE   13 years ago


    The Latest Mass Shooting Occurred While NRA Officials Were Prepping To Go On Stage

    http://www.slate.com/blogs/the.....efore.html

    This is really what we need more than anything... another area for the Government to completely have a shit-tizzy over and decide to wrap their grubby mitts around.

    I suspect despite all the hemming and hawing, they'll just kick the can just like they have everything else. Dems will blame GOP for being 'obstructionist'. Wheee.

    1. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

      At this morning's D.C. press conference, NRA executive Wayne LaPierre did his best to place a relatively small frame around last week's tragedy in Newtown, suggesting the deaths of 20 elementary students and six school staff members was a problem mostly about school shootings specifically, and not gun violence in society at large.

      What a dumbfuck. "Gun violence", as with all other forms of violent crime, have decreased substantially since the 90s and continue to decrease.

    2. Ted S.   13 years ago

      So gun-rights people should never speak up because somewhere else, somebody might be using a gun to commit murder?

    3. RBS   13 years ago

      Is that really a "mass" shooting?

      1. nicole   13 years ago

        It is now.

      2. R C Dean   13 years ago

        That was my question. Was this a random spree killing, an unusually energetic exchange of views on drug marketing, or what?

        1. RBS   13 years ago

          "It's yet unclear exactly when the shooting began. Gawker, which was one of the first national outlets to flag the shooting,"

          Responsible journalism at its best.

      3. GILMORE   13 years ago

        RBS| 12.21.12 @ 4:59PM |#

        Is that really a "mass" shooting?

        naw, more of a "Pee-Aay" thing.

        And any use of a firearm within the next few months will be a sign of the rampant out of control gun violence in america

    4. The Other Kevin   13 years ago

      Well, we heard a LOT about gun violence in the last 7 days. It was all over the news. Therefore, there must be a lot of it, and it must be on the rise.

      1. Professor Booty   13 years ago

        SUMMER OF THE SHARK

    5. fish   13 years ago

      So what? 40 shot and 8 killed is an average warm Chicago weekend! Society seems to soldier on through that.....the staff at Slate really needs to take a Valium.

      1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        Makes you wonder. If you leave out Chicago, how much would the rate of violence and number of deaths be decreased in the stats?

        1. BakedPenguin   13 years ago

          Even in Chicago, murders are about 1/2 of what they were in the 1990s.

  16. GILMORE   13 years ago

    Majority of Rich Want Themselves Taxed More

    http://finance.yahoo.com/news/.....37266.html

    Majority of Me wants to kick Majority of Rich in the balls and take their money because they dont deserve it. I will crush their faux-monocle under my boot!

    1. Ted S.   13 years ago

      Since I'm too lazy to clich through to the article, does it contain the address for donations to the Treasury?

      1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

        That's a scam. They divert the monies to a giant hole in the ground in Joshua Tree national park...The Money Hole; maybe you've heard of it?

        1. Ted S.   13 years ago

          I've heard of The Money Pit, but Mr. Blandings Builds His Dream House is better.

          1. kibby   13 years ago

            Yes, yes it certainly is.

    2. Dagny T.   13 years ago

      That is such a load. Ask their accountants if they claim all the deductions they qualify for.

    3. Sevo   13 years ago

      GILMORE| 12.21.12 @ 4:58PM |#
      "Majority of Rich Want Themselves Taxed More"

      But every time they give money away, it is NEVER to the government. They always give it to an organization that delivers actual results.
      State vs revealed preference; Buffett's a goddam hypocrite.

    4. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      67% of those polled by American Express Publishing and the Harrison Group (article fails to explain who these groups are or why I should trade my perfectly-shaped shits for their statistics) say that their taxes should go up. However, 64% of this same sample says their tax burden is too high.

      In other words, without more information, this poll smacks of methodology failure and this article can best be described as phoning it in.

  17. CE   13 years ago

    The part that requires the government to get probable-cause warrants to access private emails has been stripped from federal privacy legislation.

    No, I think this is wrong. I just checked, and the 4th Amendment hasn't been repealed.

    The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized.

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      Dang, you beat me to it.

  18. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

    "Gosh, it sure is a drag to have to defend my principles!"

    So, I had a weird night. Usually, wingnuts' online barely-concealed pleasure at hearing about nasty violence towards women and their tendency to see everything, even horrible crime, as an opportunity to score points rolls off my back. But yesterday afternoon, a small story broke on local media and started to roll out to national media about the son of a Democratic congressman pleading guilty to taking his girlfriend's head and bashing it against a trashcan, causing a broken nose and a skull fracture. This opportunity to relish the details of a nasty attack against a young woman while simultaneously pretending that they've outed feminists for "hypocrisy" (getting to hit women is apparently the new getting to say "n*gger" for the right) sent them around the bend, and much jerking off appeared to have happened. Alas, it made my night really weird.

    Curious that the feminist response to Democrats abusing the shit out of women is always:

    1) Exasperation at having to condemn the Dem

    2) Defending or engaging in apologetics for the Dem

    3) Ignoring the issue and chastising those who notice

    It's almost like they don't really care about abuse of women at all.

    1. RBS   13 years ago

      How is this any different than how this same person most likely reacted to the Newtown shooting?

    2. Episiarch   13 years ago

      Projection, dude. Projection. Always and forever.

    3. wareagle   13 years ago

      politics as faith, dude. It's a higher level than politics being personal; it's spiritual with these folks. You don't just disagree with them; you are an apostate.

    4. Ted S.   13 years ago

      Is that Amanda Marcotte again?

      1. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

        I'm at risk of becoming a one-trick pony here, aren't I?

        1. fish   13 years ago

          You aren't...she certainly is!

      2. Killazontherun   13 years ago

        The best way to think of Marcotte is like this. He skull is a barrel, the thoughts therein are squirmy fish. Our criticisms of her are like a shotgun aimed inside that barrel.

        Or, her head is like a tree, and her musings are like fruit hanging very close to the ground . . .

    5. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

      Dear Ms. Marcotte,

      If you are writing in the journalistic sense, it's acceptable to use the word "nigger". It won't offend our sensibilities. You don't need to expurgate the word, like a 19th century translation of Classical Greek homoerotic poetry. Do you believe that we will enter a berserker rage at the mere sight of the word "nigger"? In our day and age, such things only occur when Muslims hear of a Youtube video. You can rest easy that the "angry Negro" is a myth, and we won't rush to set your offices on fire.

      Seriously, the vast majority of us possess the intelligence to understand the semantic context of words. It is an insult to suggest otherwise. Indeed, the only people who would froth at the mouth with outrage at the mere sight of "nigger" are the boy-haircut, prune-faced, Baby Boomer, White female "ethnic studies" professors at whose feet you received what you erroneously refer to as an education.

      Therefore, on behalf of the community of Color, I hereby grant Amanda Marcotte the permission to write the word "nigger" without need for self-censorship. We shall add this qualification on your race card within the week.

      Sincerely,
      Heroic Mulatto

      1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

        Do you believe that we will enter a berserker rage at the mere sight of the word "nigger"? In our day and age, such things only occur when Muslims hear of a Youtube video.

        Or certain libertarians see the word cosmo

        1. Episiarch   13 years ago

          Aww...somebody's still butthurt. It'll get better, big guy.

          1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

            I'm not butthurt about that. I think it's funny the way that people fly into a rage over that word.

            1. heller   13 years ago

              No one rages, they just laugh because only yokeltarians call people cosmos.

              1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

                Whatever cosmo.

        2. SIV   13 years ago

          Or certain libertarians see the word cosmo

          When they say KULTUR WAR it's projection.
          Every...single...time.

          1. Episiarch   13 years ago

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          2. Episiarch   13 years ago

            HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

          3. Episiarch   13 years ago

            Aww...somebody else is permanently butthurt. It won't get better, big guy.

        3. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          Or certain libertarians see the word cosmo

          Speaking of Cosmo....

      2. Groovus Maximus   13 years ago

        She must recently read about "N-word Privileges".

      3. Zeb   13 years ago

        I hope you actually sent that to her.

        1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          I hope you actually sent that to her.

          I don't know if it's worth registering at their site.

          Besides, she'll just accuse me of not really being "Black/Brown," like every Progressive in history, and Ken Shultz, for not agreeing with her views.

      4. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

        It's a trap, Amanda! That's his white half talking!

        1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          I loled.

          1. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

            Seriously though, awesome response. Belongs in the same category as W Williams' certificate of amnesty.

        2. Killazontherun   13 years ago

          LOLPBUH.

      5. EDG reppin' LBC   13 years ago

        Hey HM, can I get a nigger pass, too? I live in Long Beach so it could come in pretty handy. I've got a long weekend, and would like to try it out. Also, if you have any spare gook passes, I would like one of those as well. Thanks!

        1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          Sure, just send the prestigious fee to the foundation.

          I'll inquire with my wife about that gook pass.

          1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

            *prerequisite fee

            Damn autocorrect.

      6. Agammamon   13 years ago

        Woah, woah, woah, who made you emperor of black people?

        1. Cyto   13 years ago

          He's attempting to use the Jessie Jackson / Al Sharpton method of self-anointment.

          This particular voodoo doesn't work if you don't have a corpse to stand on. Sorry Hero. The good thing is that Rev Al proved that even a pretend corpse will do.

  19. The Late P Brooks   13 years ago

    authorities panicked and thought he was threatening violence.

    Is anybody keeping track of how many "Me too, me too!" false alarm panic attacks and school shutdowns have happened in the past week?

    If I wanted to rob a bank, the first thing I'd do is call 911 and tell them I saw a suspicious character dressed in black skulking around some school.

  20. A Serious Man   13 years ago

    Every single woman in America is now curvy, and that's a good thing.

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      I read the article, but...it doesn't say anything. I mean it literally says nothing. It's like eating air or sugar free Jello.

      1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

        It doesn't have to say anything. It had a picture of Christina Hendricks above it.

    2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      Every single woman in America is now curvy

      My experience from online dating tells me that this is apparently true.

      and that's a good thing.

      It vehemently disagrees with this.

    3. Jordan   13 years ago

      I don't think the Jezzies understand that curvy and morbidly obese are not the same thing.

      1. A Serious Man   13 years ago

        Exactly. I mean I'm not a chubby chaser, but at the same time it isn't a turn off for me if an otherwise attractive girl has a few extra pounds somewhere on her.

        1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

          it isn't a turn off for me if an otherwise attractive girl has a few extra pounds somewhere on her [chest].

          Jus' sayin'

        2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

          Curvy can be attractive. A lot of women who call themselves curvy are not.

      2. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

        I don't think Jezzies understand that women are so damned concerned about their appearance because of other women.

    4. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

      There's a bright, red line between "curvy" and "rotund."

      1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

        My dad taught me a long time ago that there was a difference between a woman with a big ass, and a big-ass woman.

        1. The Immaculate Trouser   13 years ago

          Your father was Sir Mix-A-Lot??

          This explains much which was heretofore unexplained...

          1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

            Your father was Sir Mix-A-Lot??

            I wish!

            1. EDG reppin' LBC   13 years ago

              You'd be alot cooler if he was.

        2. Ted S.   13 years ago

          I think you mean "big ass-woman".

          1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

            That would be Andressa Soares.

  21. Killazontherun   13 years ago

    Dead perp will not get in the way of finding someone to arrest. Via Drudge.

    Shop Where Nancy Lanza Bought Gun Raided By Feds...

    1. Heroic Mulatto   13 years ago

      I hope they brought torches and pitchforks with them.

  22. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

    All indications are Thursday's raid was not directly related to the Newtown massacre investigation, but, as Besthoff reported, it was related to several other crimes committed at the store, including the recent theft of an AR-15 and the attempted theft of a .50-caliber long gun, both by a man with mental illness, Besthoff reported.

    So they raided the store because it was burglarized? Why, that makes total sense.

    1. Episiarch   13 years ago

      Of course it makes sense: this is now no longer about anything except politics. It took zero time at all for this to go 100% political, just like the Trayvon Martin thing. Welcome to our brave new world.

      1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

        Jane, get me off this crazy thing.

    2. Killazontherun   13 years ago

      That gave me a big, 'huh?!?!' too. A raid to investigate a reported crime.

      1. GILMORE   13 years ago

        Hey, the "crime" they were investigating was whether this gun-selling monster included the dreaded "flash hider" or infamous "bayonet lug" on their death-dealing tools of evil.

        1. Killazontherun   13 years ago

          Glad they are on the job to protect us from the big, bad scary men. Without the federal LEOs this country would be the Wild West all over again.

    3. Coeus   13 years ago

      Maybe Marcotte's the new director of the BATFE.

  23. Killazontherun   13 years ago

    Curious about what Jennifer Garner is up to of late. The subject matter of her next movie sounds very libertarian oriented:


    Dallas Buyers Club

    Loosely based on the true-life tale of Ron Woodroof, a drug taking, women loving, homophobic man who, in 1986 was diagnosed with full blown HIV/AIDS and given thirty days to live. He started taking the Food and Drug Administration (FDA) approved AZT, the only legal drug available in the U.S, which brought him to the brink of death. To survive, he smuggled non-toxic, anti-viral medications from all over the world, but yet still illegal in the U.S. Other AIDS patients sought out his medications forgoing hospitals, doctors and AZT. With the help of his Doctor, Eve Saks and a fellow patient, Rayon, Ron unintentionally created the Dallas Buyers Club, the first of dozens which would form around the country, providing its paying members with these alternative treatments. The clubs, growing in numbers and clientele, were brought to the attention of the FDA and pharmaceutical companies which waged an all out war on Ron...

  24. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

    La Pierre spews pro gun hysteria

    How do we protect our children right now, starting today, in a way that we know works?

    The only way to answer that question is to face up to the truth. Politicians pass laws for Gun-Free School Zones. They issue press releases bragging about them. They post signs advertising them.

    And in so doing, they tell every insane killer in America that schools are their safest place to inflict maximum mayhem with minimum risk.

    How is any libertarian supposed to defend that insanity?

    1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      What about that logic is wrong?

      Do Gun Free zones not tell people that all law abiding people there will be unarmed?

      Could someone looking to kill a large number of people not consider the chance of meeting resistance when determining a location?

      1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

        And even worse pro gun hysteria such as this:

        The media call semi-automatic firearms "machine guns" ? they claim these civilian semi-automatic firearms are used by the military, and they tell us that the .223 round is one of the most powerful rifle calibers ... when all of these claims are factually untrue. They don't know what they're talking about!

        Worse, they perpetuate the dangerous notion that one more gun ban ? or one more law imposed on peaceful, lawful people ? will protect us where 20,000 others have failed!

        WTF????

        That crazy shit just smears all defenders of the 2nd amendment.

        1. heller   13 years ago

          What about this

          When it comes to the most beloved, innocent and vulnerable members of the American family?our children?we as a society leave them utterly defenseless, and the monsters and predators of this world know it and exploit it. That must change now!

          The truth is that our society is populated by an unknown number of genuine monsters?people so deranged, so evil, so possessed by voices and driven by demons that no sane person can possibly ever comprehend them. They walk among us every day. And does anybody really believe that the next Adam Lanza isn't planning his attack on a school he's already identified at this very moment?

          How many more copycats are waiting in the wings for their moment of fame?from a national media machine that rewards them with the wall-to-wall attention and sense of identity that they crave?while provoking others to try to make their mark? A dozen more killers? A hundred? More? How can we possibly even guess how many, given our nation's refusal to create an active national database of the mentally ill?

          1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

            Again, what part of that is pro gun hysteria?

            1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

              Oh yeah, it's this part

              The only thing that stops a bad guy with a gun is a good guy with a gun.

              How dare he spout such pro gun hysterical nonsense.

              1. heller   13 years ago

                That's not even in the part I quoted you disingenuous obsessive little twerp. It's patently clear, unless you are deliberately ignoring La Pierre's words, that he is using pro-gun hysteria. Not only are you dead wrong, you can't seem to stop shouting out how wrong you are in multiple threads.

                1. Episiarch   13 years ago

                  I warned him that obsession wasn't good for him, heller, but he didn't listen.

            2. heller   13 years ago

              All of it, especially the bold parts. Saying if we don't have more guns the children will be killed by monsters = pro-gun hysteria.

              1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

                Nothing that you bolded says if we don't have more guns.....

                You seem to think that the general thrust of it takes an armed guy to stop and armed guy is pro gun hysteria.

                But when I actually quoted that part of the speech you call me a disingenuous twerp - implying that was not the part you found hysterical.

                And now you are misquoting your own quote.

                So what the fuck are you talking about?

                1. heller   13 years ago

                  No, you're a fucking fool.

                  Saying we leave our children defenseless means we need more guns to defend our children. Of course, that assumes that our children are under a grave threat, which is hysteria.

        2. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

          And this obvious pro gun hysteria

          Now, I can imagine the shocking headlines you'll print tomorrow morning: "More guns," you'll claim, "are the NRA's answer to everything!" Your implication will be that guns are evil and have no place in society, much less in our schools. But since when did the word "gun" automatically become a bad word?

          A gun in the hands of a Secret Service agent protecting the President isn't a bad word. A gun in the hands of a soldier protecting the United States isn't a bad word. And when you hear the glass breaking in your living room at 3 a.m. and call 911, you won't be able to pray hard enough for a gun in the hands of a good guy to get there fast enough to protect you.

          So why is the idea of a gun good when it's used to protect our President or our country or our police, but bad when it's used to protect our children in their schools?

          What a monster!

          1. heller   13 years ago

            Only a dumb shit would think quoting something else proves he didn't use pro-gun hysteria.

            1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

              And only a dumbshit can think thatthe part that you quoted can accurately be described as pro gun hysteria.

              1. heller   13 years ago

                We've already determined you're a dumb shit, so I don't think you're opinion of me as a dumb shit can be taken seriously. It's sort of like a retard getting angry at a non-retard for no reason.

    2. Episiarch   13 years ago

      Having a little trouble letting that go, big guy? Obsession isn't good for you.

      1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

        Yeah I am.

        Pro-gun hysteria makes it sound like he had a Piers Morgan level meltdown.

        It's the first prominent public defense (as imperfect as it was) of gun rights since the hysteria started and it pisses me off to see it called anti gun hysteria by someone that knows better.

        Especially when that is the exact same language used by the anti gun nuts. And it's still one of the headlines of a featured article on the home page.

        1. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

          Ah, there appears to have been some history behind this, while I was off actually working for once.

        2. Zeb   13 years ago

          "Pro-gun hysteria makes it sound like he had a Piers Morgan level meltdown."

          Yeah. Maybe it would have if he hadn't followed it with a whole article demonstrating nothing of the sort.

          1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

            Today the National Rifle Association broke its silence on the Sandy Hook massacre, and its strategy seems to be fighting anti-gun hysteria with pro-gun hysteria

            First, fucking sentence.

            And no he does not follow it with any indication that La Pierre was anything but a madman frothing at the mouth to exploit the crimes just like proggies such as Morgan have done.

            1. heller   13 years ago

              So Sullum has to say everything he doesn't mean so that idiots like you don't take offense? Why is it Yokeltarians are always complaining about what people don't write instead of what they do? Is it because they're illiterate?

              1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

                Gee I don't know. Maybe because summarized the half of the speech focusing on defending self defense and gun rights as pro gun hysteria just like the fucking gun grabbers are doing

                1. heller   13 years ago

                  If that's what you took away from the post, you're illiterate.

        3. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

          You would think that for all of the trained attorneys America has in elected positions, someone would appreciate the concept of "mens rea." For all of these "wise" leaders we have, someone would understand the simple notion that a person who intends to kill will act on that intent by the most expedient means possible. If Adam Lanza didn't have access to a firearm but did have access to chemicals, a steel pipe, fuse and a detonator, walked into Sandy Hook Elementary with a bomb under his arm and killed 20 children, would we be talking about "Pipe Control" right now?

          1. Zeb   13 years ago

            We'd probably be talking about controlling some of those chemicals.

            1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

              A three-day waiting period before you can buy fertilizer?

    3. A Serious Man   13 years ago

      There a lot of mass shootings at gun shows and shooting ranges?

      1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

        Sullum, in an early post today referred to that as pro-gun hysteria. And everyone jumped my ass for calling him a douche for doing so.

        1. RBS   13 years ago

          That's because you're an illiterate douche.

          1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

            Thank god for this voice recognition software.

            1. heller   13 years ago

              You see VG Zaytsev is making a very logical point: Not everything La Pierre said is pro-gun hysteria, therefore La Pierre did not say use pro-gun hysteria.

              1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

                Look, if you want to call some of what he said crap, fine I'll agree. Some of it was completely unworkable, creepy even.

                But it's not fucking pro gun hysteria.

                And also half of the speech is a solid defense of gun rights. I wish that he'd gone further and called for allowing concealed carry by the staff in schools, it was probably a tactical decision not too. Even so it was the most prominent defense of gun rights since the massacre last friday and it didn't deserve the smear job that Sullum did to it.

                1. heller   13 years ago

                  Yeah it is. Jacob quoted the part that was and called him out for it. I don't see why you've gone full out Canceling My Subscription! mode over this.

        2. GILMORE   13 years ago

          "Quit moaning you open-borders America-Killer. How dare you consider yourself a defender of the constitution you MexicoCanamarican New World Order Gay-lover who thinks my kids should do drugs while being taught there is no God"

          *VG - the above is perhaps why people think you're being a little silly for making a huge issue about this.

          (i.e. pulling the "more Pro-Gun than this @#*(&$@ rag!~!" card)

          1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

            I'm not sure who you're quoting there but it isn't me.

            1. GILMORE   13 years ago

              That sound you heard was the joke going over your head.

  25. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

    Mass killings are okay when authorized by the CIA and carried out via Hellfire missile.

    69 Pakistani children < 20 American children.

    1. VG Zaytsev   13 years ago

      Randian says so,
      so it must be true.

    2. Auric Demonocles   13 years ago

      They weren't shot, so it doesn't count as gun violence. Who cares about other kinds of violence (unless it's domestic)?

      1. Anonymous Coward   13 years ago

        I would imagine their parents/relatives/various kin are more concerned with missile violence than gun violence.

    3. Jordan   13 years ago

      Progressives don't care about government-inflicted violence; hell, it gives them a huge boner. They only care when a subject steps out of line.

      1. Caleb Turberville   13 years ago

        Wasn't the largest school massacre in American history carried out by explosives?

        1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

          It sure was.

    4. GILMORE   13 years ago

      "69 Pakistani children < 20 American children"

      ppppt.

      1 American Child GREATER THAN Entire population of Pakistan

      Any American child is worth more than most nations in the Southern hemisphere. An American child is a precious and magical and irreplacible snowflake which will power the future like a flux capacitor on Barry Bonds' cocktail sauce. An American child is like the last living snow leopard wrapped in precious gems which shits saffron scented ambergris.

      I support corporal punishment however

  26. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

    Actually, it's mad libertarian guy.

    Why, oh why did my hat tip have to come in Reason 24 fucking 7?

    1. Mad Scientist   13 years ago

      You'll be capitalized and like it!

      1. mad libertarian guy   13 years ago

        Apparently.

    2. GILMORE   13 years ago

      Why, oh why did my hat tip have to come in Reason 24 fucking 7?

      becawse you have been veewy veewy nawwty

  27. Enjoy Every Sandwich   13 years ago

    Thanks to the fiscal cliff impasse shoving aside the farm bill, the feds may have to follow protectionist dairy regulations that could cause milk prices to more than double.

    Any bets on how long it will take the Left to call this "market failure"?

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