Watch Matt Welch (and Gary Johnson and Jill Stein) Tonight on RT!

The possibly russologist network RT (not to be confused with "retweet") is tonight broadcasting what will possibly be the last presidential debate of the eternal 2012 campaign, a Free and Equal-hosted affair between Green Party nominee Jill Stein and the Libertarian Party's own Gary Johnson. The debate starts at 9 pm ET, but RT will have a pre-game show beginning at 8 pm starring yours truly and a handful of other commentators.

A fun and non-mainstream time should be had by all, so drop on by, leave comments on this thread, and otherwise misbehave.

Comments

[Dr. Frankenstein]

"There is no such thing as not voting: you either vote by voting, or you vote by staying home and tacitly doubling the value of some Diehard's vote."

?David Foster Wallace

[Apatheist ?_??]

David Foster Wallace was bad at math apparently. Also logic.

[Episiarch]

There seems to be a lot of that going around.

[SIV]

English majors aren't known for their math skills.

[hotsy totsy]

Or their logic skills either.

[SIV]

In DFW's case, I blame the medication.

RIP

[Julio Cesar Samper Uribe]

RT?

You mean, the TV news network owned by Glorious Comrade President, Prime Minister and Secretary General Vladimir Putin, Patriotic and Heroic Commander-in-Chief of the Armies of All Mother Russia?

The same network that, oddly, appeals to American libertarians?

I think I'll pass.

Also, in other threads, you welcomed newbie Omni. I feel lonely and neglected.

[WWNGD?]

Yeah I don't get that either, but then I was told that they are LEFT leaning libertarians and it became even less clear.

[Julio Cesar Samper Uribe]

I think "left-leaning libertarian" is code for "Occupiers with some redeeming qualities".

[SIV]

Commie, pinko, fellow traveler, DUPES!

[yonemoto]

if by "left leaning" you mean my member leans left when it gets erect when alyona is on the screen, yes.

[Doktor Kapitalism]

You should have said so! Anything you need explained?

[Julio Cesar Samper Uribe]

The best way to nuke Shrike/Spacebar Tony/minuscule joe.

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Shrike: I ignore him/her/it. John and Epi handle that pretty well.

T o n y: Ask him to write about budget cuts without using the word draconian.

joe? Have I been on hiatus that long?

Never get on Sevo's bad side, and always thanks sarcasmic for the links.

[darius404]

joey-boy is the Derided.

[Thane Eichenauer]

The wonderful thing about a free market media is that Vladimir Putin and his government can pay for a forum which allows Gary Johnson to present his case.

Should a person deny himself the opportunity to read Ayn Rand's Atlas Shrugged just because it happened to be found in a government library?

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Initial impression: this is going to be a lot more interesting than last time.

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Level playing field. Is that a drink! situation.

[Sam Grove]

You expect an avowed socialist will display extensive ignorance of economics, and Jill Stein exceeds expectations.

[strat]

Her opening statement was one of the more delightful fantasy stories I think I've ever seen on TV. When she said "Green New Deal" I realized that there was no saving her.

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Matt! Yay!

[Matt Welch]

It was just a Teleprompter question, alas. Though I leaned into it!

[strat]

I would love to see these two debate the Community Reinvestment Act.

[strat]

Props to Gov. Johnson for admitting that there's no Presidential magic wand to change the climate.

[Teaching Student]

Stein is a fucking idiot.... I just started listening but she's had a lot more speaking time.... I want to hear Johnson dammit.

[yonemoto]

I was afraid he would get an aneurysm and disqualify himself from the presidency through death.

Good lord GJ, why you mad bro?

*still voting for him tomorrow.

[Thane Eichenauer]

I imagine the political sweet spot these days is to be found somewhere between Mitt "unemotional" Romney and Howard "scream" Dean.

[strat]

As someone who was at one of the very first Internet backbone providers, I'm appalled to hear her discussing "privatizing" the Internet. Last I checked, it has been privatized ever since the NSFNET shut down.

[strat]

ProTip: When someone says "I'm a doctor, not an ideologue," they might be fibbing.

[Sevo]

...'they *are* fibbing.'
Pretty much a given.

[guitargeek]

Stein is a terrible speaker. Lots of "Umm" and "Uhh"

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Johnson isn't exactly great either.

Wait, is he still there? I haven't heard him in awhile.

[Teaching Student]

Johnson mentioned the ACLU Liberty torches.... how the hell did Obama get 16/24? Does Gay Marriaige and Abortion count double or something?

[JeremyR]

Even with only one other speaker, he has no presence.

[strat]

Free weatherstripping! Thanks, Jill!

[THIS SUX]

Union Goon: Will dese weather stripping guise be union or you some scab?

[strat]

Nope, no union jobs either. These will be kids living in dorms on Uncle Sam's nickel.

[THIS SUX]

Union Goon: Well Jill, sweeite, we's gonna hafta shut ya down cuz you aint taking food out of my childuns moufs.

[THIS SUX]

Holy Christ! Jill Stein is in fucking fantasy land.

[Teaching Student]

The stupid!!!! It BURNS!!!!

[guitargeek]

Wow, Stein is totally nutballs. This greed New Deal stuff is seriously cracked.

[Clich? Bandit]

"greed New Deal"????

nicely done.

[guitargeek]

My sub-concious got loose while typing.

[guitargeek]

Digging with spoons! I love it!

[strat]

I hate to see GarJo getting so fired up, but someone really did need to explain to her that life's not free.

[guitargeek]

Yeah, he really gets kinda dorky when he gets fired up.

[strat]

He's not as statesmanly as he is authentic. When he gets like that, I pretty much hear the voice of every CEO for whom I've worked as they dressed people down.

[THIS SUX]

Jill Stein status:

[]told
[]fuggin told
[]Star Wars: Knights of the Told Republic
[]No Country for Told Men
[X]Stone Told Stein Autist

[AnonoBot]

Stone Told Stein Autist? Autocorrect much?

[strat]

Oh god, here comes the GMO craziness

[guitargeek]

You see, preventing scientific progress is Progressive. Get it?

[Doktor Kapitalism]

I know what you're saying there, Gary, but...I'm disappointed. Not a mention of GMOs in that response.

[strat]

He would have done better to mention golden rice and how unwarranted panic over GMOs is just like not vaccinating your kids because you saw Jenny McCarthy on TV.

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Agreed. But I understand where he's coming from with Celiac's disease.

[hotsy totsy]

He would have done better to mention golden rice and how unwarranted panic over GMOs is just like not vaccinating your kids because you saw Jenny McCarthy on TV.

I gotta steal that.

[strat]

Normally, I'd be sure we could strike a royalty arrangement, but it's election day and I'm feeling magnanimous. Have at it.

[Doktor Kapitalism]

This closing statement is nothing new...

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Though it was quite impressive.

[strat]

Woot. a candidate who has actually created a job (or even 1000 of them)! That's so unfashionable these days.

[strat]

No more voter fraud? Did Illinois secede?

[Doktor Kapitalism]

Nah, they just gave the delegate assignment duties back to the legislature.

[JeremyR]

So, did they bring up Pussy Riot? I mean, considering Reason writes about it so often, surely it must have been mentioned...