Foreign Policy

Americans Should Reject Obama-Romney Foreign Policy

Obama and Romney think a U.S. president can and should orchestrate events in the Muslim world.

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If we needed evidence of the impoverishment of American politics, the so-called debate between President Barack Obama and Mitt Romney gave us all we could ask for.

We normally expect a debate to highlight some disagreement, but in American politics disagreement is reserved for minor matters. The two parties — actually the two divisions of the uniparty that represents the permanent regime—agree on all fundamentals. If you need proof, observe how the establishment media treated Ron Paul, who challenged the permanent regime's basic premises on foreign policy, civil liberties, and monetary control. He dug too deep.

It's been noted, mostly by humorists, that Romney continuously expressed his agreement with Obama across a range of issues: drone warfare, Iran, Afghanistan, even Iraq. He tried to manufacture differences by suggesting that he would have done more sooner. But this all sounded flaccid; Romney seemed desperate to draw some contrast with a foreign policy that he embraces.

What does Romney really believe? Who can say? What we do know is that he's taking his foreign-policy advice from a team of neoconservatives, formerly of the George W. Bush administration, who helped dig the hole the country is in.

Obama, for his part, defended his record, which someone other than Romney could have torn to shreds. Obama brags about ending the occupation of Iraq, yet he forgets that Bush had already signed an agreement, insisted on by the Iran-friendly Iraqi government, to get out by the end of 2011. What Obama won't tell you is that he begged Prime Minister Maliki to ask U.S. troops to remain. Thankfully, Maliki said no.

Obama of course also mentioned the killing of Osama bin Laden. Two things about that: First, capture and trial would have been a better example for the world than summary execution by Navy SEALs. Second, the enfeebled bin Laden was a has-been by May 2011, having been kicked upstairs when he started devising impossible "plots." He was no threat to the American people.

Someone other than Romney might have pointed out that Obama's policy has helped to spread al-Qaeda's influence beyond Afghanistan and Iraq. Thanks to the president's drone warfare—which regularly murders innocents—and other interventions, there are now al-Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers in Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Mali, and elsewhere.

But Romney can't point this out, because he approves of Obama's imperialist policy and drone warfare. He apparently can't wait until he, like Obama, gets to personally choose targets from a presidential kill list.

And then there's Iran. At the debate, Romney lauded Obama's "crippling sanctions" on the Iranian economy. But there is no such thing as an "economy." There are only people engaged in buying and selling.

Obama and Romney both say that war against Iran should be a last resort. But if that is the case, why do they dehumanize the people of Iran? Sanctions don't cripple the Iranian economy. Sanctions cripple people — economically, nutritionally, and in every other respect. They make life hell for average people, especially children and the elderly. The rulers suffer least of all.

Both candidates take it for granted that Iran is working toward a nuclear bomb, and that when it gets one, the American and Israeli people will be at risk. How many times did Romney say that the country is "four years closer" to a bomb? Of course, the "debate" moderator, Bob Schieffer of CBS, never challenged that premise. Like all good network stenographers, he lets his questions propagandize on behalf of the permanent regime.

There are two problems with all of this: According to American and Israeli intelligence, there is no evidence Iran wants a bomb. Furthermore, even if Iran got one, all it would be good for is deterrence against continuing U.S. and Israeli domination of the Middle East. No one seriously thinks the Iranian regime is suicidal. America has thousands of nukes; Israel has hundreds. So what good would a warhead or two do Iran, even if it was intent on becoming a nuclear power?

Obama and Romney are both conceited enough to think a U.S. president can and should orchestrate events in the Muslim world. That alone is reason enough to reject them both.

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  1. The US is arrogant.

    (That is still not an apology, wingnuts).

    1. Nine days. Only nine more days until your plastic messiah gets his sorry, lying, incompetent ass booted out of office.

      1. Can you imagine how absolutely crippling Hussein I’s defeat would have been in the upcoming election if someone with Newt’s rabble-rousing oratory “skills” were the Republican nominee?

        STARVATION & SLAVERY!!111

      2. I don’t know if Obama will win but I know damn well that he is the favorite.

        He is +4 in VA now – game over if accurate.

        1. I’m pretty sure most people who oppose Obama are stocked up on high quantities of hard liquor just in case he does win anyway, Shrike. Are you prepared to argue with several hundred inebriated libertarians?

        2. He is +4 in VA now – game over if accurate.

          Gotta love how you cherry pick the one poll in your favor, you pathetic scum. All the other polls besides Washington Post have it tied or Romney in the lead.

          And Romney is going to win in Virginia, which is Obama gave up and pulled out of the state like a week ago.

          1. Stop being so racist, Mike. The only reason Romney’s going to win in Virginia is that it used to be a Confederate state. I hear there are enormous lynchmobs still roaming the western Virginian countryside after all these years! Shrike has proven this on many occasions.

            Beware of the existential darkness that is the entire area between Los Angeles, Seattle, NYC, and DC!

            1. Yes, all those ChristFag KKK’er running around in VA will surely overlook Flopney’s religious background only because that Evil Negro has been in charge. Yes! Top notch political punditry there, right that!

              Oh no! It couldn’t possibly be because The Zero’s leadership and policies have sucked more ass than a liposuction vacuum. Nope, it couldn’t possibly be!

              1. That’s what the learned journalistic professionals at MSNBC have been trying to tell you silly Klansmen all along!

                OBAMA 2012 SOME MORE CHANGE WE CAN BELIEVE IN!

              2. Sometimes I regret my attempts to enlighten you people.

                1. We always regret them.

                2. Sometimes I regret my attempts to enlighten you people.

                  Good! Stop trying. Leave!

                3. Oh Shriek, don’t be such a wet blanket.

                  I must say, that evangelical dissemination “Only I know the truth!” tone of yours is ironic…

                  And try not to break your arm patting yourself on the back. Your lament reeks periously close to that of a…wait for it…put upon ChristFag Martyr.

                4. That’s pretty funny for someone who’s handle conveys a normal state of being where the sun don’t shine.

                5. “Sometimes I regret my attempts to enlighten you people”

                  In Soviet Russia, swine cast pearls to YOU!

        3. I don’t know if Obama will win but I know damn well that he is the favorite.

          And for the last year he as been inevitable. So I guess you are starting to move beyond denial into the next stage of grief.

          1. Conservative activist claims to have over one million committed third party votes for Jesus –

            http://www.votingforjesus.com/

            They won’t vote for a Democrat or a Mormon – both spawns of Satan.

            1. Implying they aren’t.

        4. RCP has VA as a toss up still. And it went for Bush in 2000 and 2008. And Obama’s war on coal has probably got a few voters pissed there.

          I’m worried that Obama will still win. Eight years is a big chunk of someone’s life to have to look at that asshole.

          1. If we escape far enough — say, to the greatest depths of the Alaskan wilderness — we don’t have to look at him.

          2. Try 20 years for Michelle. And vice versa for him. Yikes!

            I still think Obummer is a lock.

            1. Well I don’t blame you for leaving, doc. My parents are planning to move to Ecuador. Maybe I’ll be a few years behind them.

            2. So you think every national poll is wrong? Or do you think Obama will be the first President ever to lose the popular vote by three or four percentage points and still win the Electoral vote?

              1. There’s a third possibility John: rigged election.

                1. He can’t rig enough states and he can’t rig any state that isn’t razor close.

            3. http://www.redstate.com/2012/1…..-is-toast/

              This is a pretty good analysis of the polls Groovus. And it makes a very good case that obama is probably done. At this point he needs a D turnout bigger than 08 to win. And that is pretty unlikely.

              1. But, but…Intrade, John. And Nate Silver!

              2. To answer your question upthread, John, I do think The Zero will win the EC.

                The tremendous push for early voting, all the Voter ID laws getting thrown out, and my infinite faith for the American public’s fascination with “FREE SHIT!” will carry him through.

                1. Could this storm hitting the blue states cause some people to stay home on election day?

                  1. If that happens, Obamatrons are likely to blame Romney the God of Thunder for unleashing the hurricane.

                    1. Global warming rigged the election! That would be a new one (I think).

              3. This is a pretty good analysis of the polls

                John, I agree. Obama won in 08 because of the support of independents. Independents this time around are overwhelmingly breaking Mittens. So where are the Dems making up their losses? Turnout? With the worst economy in my lifetime? With undeclared wars instigated by the party of peace? Not buyin’.

                It is my understanding, and someone correct me if I’m wrong, that most of these polls are baking in a Dem turnout similar to 08. I’d be extremely surprised if that turns out to be the case.

                I’ll go out on a limb and say I don’t think it will even be close.

                1. God I hope you’re right. Seems to me that the economy is trundling along enough that the average dope figures it could be worse, and free shit.

    2. Tell us how Obama is really super-duper different on foreign policy.

  2. Caption:

    Flopney: “I really, really do have a Warboner! Honest!”

    Obummer: “Mine’s only this big!”

    Shriek, get back on the lithium.

    1. Really, GM, you are not one of these bubble types that actually believes Obama went around apologizing to other countries, are you?

      And then he launched drones on them afterward?

      The GOP bubble just prevents any reality from entering.

      1. My theory is that your plan is to say shit so stupid, it induces cranial detonation in all rational, moral people, and causes the extinction of non-progressives everywhere.

        And you’re getting pretty close to that level, bud.

        1. I have made no outrageous claims.

          Again, I support the most secular capitalist around – Free Minds and Free Markets.

          1. Obama is about as much of a “capitalist” as you are a skilled investor.

      2. Japan had to stop him from apologizing for Hiroshima ie ending WW2. So fuck you.

      3. Yo, up-the-ass-dude, I’m more worried about the fallout of drone strikes – which Obama is very unapologetic about.

    2. Well, since you asked for my opinion of His Pestilency, I do think he had overly apologetic and conciliatory rhetoric, and acted much like a puppy you catch soiling the carpet.

      Did he say verbatim, “I’m sorry Euros for the USA being such an asshole. I’m so, so sorry! Please accept our humblest of apologies!” No, of course not. However, he did, by using the rhetoric he did, imply that he was embarrassed of our First World nation status, and that is something that left a bad taste in my mouth. Like he was embarrassed that the USA is one of the most, if not the most, powerful nations on terra firma, along the lines of “Yes, EUR, we really are a bunch of dicks, aren’t we? All your bad jokes and stereotypes are true! I’ll try not to make us suck so bad, dear Socialist (and Fascist) Brothers in Arms! I promise, I’m not Chimpy Halliburton McBu$hitler! (Oh, the bitter irony!)”

      Incidentally Shriek, almost all of my Euro friends took his Apologetic Tone Tour as exactly that, an apology for for the USA’s greatness and role in world affairs without saying specifically, “I’m sorry.” The Eastern Euros in particular have no love loss for this President of ours, that’s for sure.

      1. Unfortunately, I didn’t get much insight on it from Russians and Ukrainians when I tried asking. Their responses usually entailed throwing around a few racist terms, and then admitting they didn’t know anything about American politics.

        1. Depends on whom you ask. Most of my friends in UKR have business dealings in both the US and China and they certainly think this President is a charismatic but empty suit. UKR has bigger fish to fry since their unemployment rate exceeds ours and the birthrate is stagnant.

          Russia is more of a mixed bag, from not caring a whit to “Why the fuck are you trying to be more like how we used to be!?” All of the politically astute ones are well aware of our incredible debt, as they deal mostly in dollars, but are ready to chuck them when the dollar sinks.

          Limeys love this guy overall, and the Krauts aren’t particularly fond of him, from the ones with whom I speak, anyways.

          1. Guess it depends on the sort of people you ask.

            And there was a study released recently that shows Germans overwhelmingly support Obama (or would vote for him if they could), because his positions on everything from state welfare to race relations are much more in line with theirs.

            People forget that although Germany’s no Greece or Romania, it’s still a part of the terminal European quagmire.

          2. http://www.aspeninstitute.it/a…..ntial-race

            http://www.globescan.com/comme…..omney.html

            Depressing reads.

            1. You have to read those polls with the concept that envy of America as a ‘superpower’ drives most responses. They honestly believe that Obama would throw his weight around less than Romney.

              Personally, I can’t wait until the arrogant fucks have to dance to China’s and a more belligerent Russia’s tune. Not that I’m a fan of Pax Americana, and all that entails, but goddamn those bastards deserve what’s coming to them.

              1. I’m an enormous fan of a peacefully constructed Pax Americana that benefits everyone. But being the policeman of the world and wasting unconscionable amounts of time and resources on propping up slackers, on the other hand, is something we should finish with immediately.

                If Red China decided to invade Europe tomorrow, can you imagine the sheer intensity of the pleas for American intervention that would inevitably rain down upon us?

                1. It’s our fault for coddling them into being defense parasites. Worse, this allowed them to spend on welfare statism what they didn’t spend on defense. And so America created the incubator for the social democracy now infecting it.

            2. I think it’s schadenfreude more than anything else. Obama has made this country worse off, and that delights many Europeans as well as citizens of developing countries.

      2. Oh, bullshit.

        Obama frequently notes that the US has a duty to lead the world as its most powerful country. He even used the “American Exceptionalism” crap the right likes to spew.

        1. Only when he’s speechmaking, and because he’s a political gamer. What’s your point?

          1. only when he’s speechmaking?

            that’s like saying he poops only while sitting on the toilet

            1. No, it really isn’t.

              He only plays to American exceptionalism when addressing American crowds. That’s what I meant by “speechmaking.”

        2. Not while he was on his Apologetic Tone Tour, I don’t recall.

      3. As an Op-Ed in the Wall Street Journal by Douglas J. Feith and Seth Cropsey explained, yes, Obama’s foreign policy was devised by advisers who recommended that America take an “apologetic tone”.

        From the article:

        White House senior director for the National Security Council Samantha Power wrote some years ago, while a Harvard University lecturer, that America should adopt a foreign-policy “doctrine of mea culpa.” This is the frame of mind that President Obama brought to his famous June 2009 Cairo speech in which he suggested that tensions between America and the world’s Muslims are largely America’s fault. It was in that speech that President Obama asserted: “Islam is not part of the problem in combating violent extremism.”…

        1. If the despicable conduct of the President is any indication, we’ve sunk considerably lower than most people think.

          1. “But, but….JOOZ!!!”

            –Sheldon J. Plankton Richman

            1. You just despise poor little Egyptian children. Israel’s sending military rape squads over there to abuse them. HEARTLESS MONSTER! BE GONE.

        2. So, Samantha Power was channeling her inner Ron Paul on blowback?

          And Doug Feith – who General Franks called “the dumbest fucking guy on the planet”?

          Feith is always wrong. A Bushie all the way.

          1. Samantha Power?!?!?! The arguably worse half of Cass fucking Sunstein??? INNER RON PAUL? Are you on meth?

            Power is a dull axe carrying, ideological war monger, Shriek, of the highest order, along with Jarrett and HillDawg.

            Shakespeare could not have written a better depiction of the Weird Sisters.

            John’s right, you have have lost your pugnacious ever loving mind, you twat burger.

            1. Are you on meth?

              Nah, Sarah’s flatulence is what fuels his flights of fancy.

  3. I guess my “F the President” sticker can stay on the car for four more years regardless of who is elected.

    1. Attach an old Reagan sticker to your bumper and drive through San Francisco. If you don’t make it out alive, can I have your booze?

      1. He would be in no danger of anything except getting his car keyed and listening to a lot of outraged whining.

        1. Don’t count on it, dude. Their overt cowardice and usual impotence is matched, and often exceeded, by their virulent hatred for non-pinkos.

          1. I would take my chance in San Fran. Now union thugs in Ohio probably not.

            1. Or Detroit. Remember that shit about how they’d rather burn the city down than allow non-retards to take over its government?

              1. I think it was Ohio or somewhere where the politician’s kid got put in the hospital for trying to stop someone from ripping down his Romney sign. They are just fucking brownshirts.

                1. Cheka.

  4. First, capture and trial would have been a better example for the world than summary execution by Navy SEALs.

    Letting Bin Ladin hold court and gain sympathy would have been so much better. And of course, there is no judge or jury in the world who would have been willing to let him off. So it would have basically been a show trial. And Bin Ladin’s supporters, and there are many, would have spent years arguing he was denied a fair trial. It would have been a disaster. Gary Johnson would have whacked Bin Ladin. Any President would have. I stopped reading this shit after that sentence.

    1. I have a hard time giving a shit, to be honest.

      1. I think Reason has a few other and better hills to die on than the evil US killed Bin Ladin.

        1. I meant I have a hard time giving a shit about the way bin Laden died.

          And I agree. A trial may have been a better idea ultimately, but they had an opportunity to take him fast, and I don’t blame them for going with it.

          1. But I do have a hard time listening to Hopey McChange talking about it as if he was the one on the firing line, or pretending that taking out one man somehow constitutes a “foreign policy.”

            1. Yeah, same as me. Hussein I’s one hopeless mother.

    2. The Reason foreign policy writers need to read some damn history besides Wikipedia. A great example of how radical Muslims take advantage of weakness is in the final days of the Shah’s reign in Iran. He squandered a couple opportunities to regain control because he said he didn’t want to kill his people. Did they respond by saying “oh! what a nice guy, we misjudged him” Of course not, especially after attacks by the revolutionaries were depicted as being the work of the Shah. In power struggles, it doesn’t work to give a good example by being nice. We’re not the world’s kindergarten teacher.

      1. . In power struggles, it doesn’t work to give a good example by being nice. We’re not the world’s kindergarten teacher.

        True, which also means we have no reason to think we need to put certain countries in “time out”. Trade with all, quarrel with none, I say.

        1. “Peace, commerce, and honest friendship with all nations ? entangling alliances with none.”

          Oh, wait, that guy, like, wore a wig, and was one of those slave-owning white dudes!

          We can’t listen to that guy! No way!

          1. HERESY!

      2. Tangenital funny fact: I learned that our Shah-the one installed to keep out Red influence-was a Soviet Shah. He loved some experimental economics, 5-year plans, etc. The resulting misery drove the revolution.

        1. You said “tangenital.” Heh.

    3. You assume the story about the Seal Team strike on OBL is the truth.

      1. Osama bin Laden was trained by the CIA and worked for them as an operative. In 2008, Milt Bearden told Dan Rather that the “myth of Osama bin Laden” was created by the US government. At first he was a great warrior when he worked with the CIA against the Russians in Afghanistan, then he became the go-to Boogeyman leader of an “extremist terrorist group called al-Qaeda”.

        Bearden admits that he believes the Bush administration did not have evidence proving bin Laden was culprit behind 9/11.

  5. Of course, the “debate” moderator, Bob Schieffer of CBS, never challenged that premise. Like all good network stenographers, he lets his questions propagandize on behalf of the permanent regime.

    Scare quotes and the stenographer charge. Everyone’s taking it on the chin today.

    Whatever else you think of it, it’s hard not to admit that our foreign policy has become too damn expensive. We can’t afford it to continue as is.

  6. Obama of course also mentioned the killing of Osama bin Laden. Two things about that: First, capture and trial would have been a better example for the world than summary execution by Navy SEALs.

    Perhaps, but if during the raid, Osama drew a weapon, no American soldier or sailor should have been under any compulsion to sacrifice himself so that bin Laden would have been taken alive.

    Second, the enfeebled bin Laden was a has-been by May 2011, having been kicked upstairs when he started devising impossible “plots.” He was no threat to the American people.

    You’re over-egging the pudding once again, Richman. Firstly, I question his ‘enfeebleness’ when the son-of-a-bitch was still living with his harem and popping out little bin Ladens by the litter. Secondly, as an idea man, he still devised AQ’s ideology, policy, and strategy. All of which focused on America’s destruction and eventual capitulation to the Islamic world. These “plots” only seem impossible to you due to your limited imagination. After all, a plot where 12 men hijack airliners and fly them into America’s centers of power sounds more like the plot to a straight-to-video Van Damme flick than a paragraph in a history book, yes?

    1. Oh, right – 12 guys are gonna hijack planes by threatening the crew with boxcutters and then fly them into three huge buildings…GOOD one!

      1. Disarmed travelers are clearly safer!

      2. good one. and the people who criticize many of the inchoate terrorist acts that undercover FBI stings etc. uncover and make arrests on would have criticized the actual 9/11 plot if it had been similarly uncovered before final execution as “implausible” and “entrapment” and not a bona fide terrorist conspiracy. it SOUNDS pretty ridiculous – boxcutters? fly a plane into the pentagon?!?!?! really?

        but it happened. (loose change notwithstanding). truth is often stranger than fiction and crimes are often bizarre, hard to fathom that they would succeed, etc.

    2. There is nothing Sheldon and the other peaceniks here won’t push to feed The Narrative.

      1. To call Sheldon Richman a “peacenik” is an insult to the concept of Peace. He is a drooling, deluded idiot cheerleader for those who, if given the chance, would enact the Final Solution 2.0.

        In Richman’s world, violence is only acceptable by those he deems “oppressed,” i.e. whatever ethnicity or creed is deemed worthy of pity by the “Tastemakers”. Richman gleefully carries water for the Palestine cause. Yet, Buddhist monks beheaded in southern Thailand? Sheldon has nothing to say. Burmese Buddhists raped and murdered in Rakhine state? Sheldon will do his best to turn the “narrative” back to the Rohingya. (I’m being kind here. In reality, I doubt Richman could find Rakhine on a map, much less possess an educated opinion on the Rohingya conflict.) Ethnic Nepalese Hindus suffering under an oppressive Bhutanese state? Sheldon’s silence is deafening.

        The list goes on and on, but Richman knows that none of those causes are ‘fashionable’ enough to earn him the Lefty street cred his ego identity craves so much.

        May he grow like an onion with his head in Hell.

  7. As usual, AnonBot will have the last word on this subject.

  8. OT via Drudge: vandalism of cars at a ‘Romney supporting’ household hits cars of Obama supporters too.

    Setting aside the issue of this type of vandalism, which often turns up as false flag operations, the article itself contains this gem:

    CBS2 and KCAL9 reporter Rob Schmitt spoke to Ken Slown, owner of one of the keyed vehicles.

    Slown actually supports President Obama!

    He explained to Schmitt that he and his wife ? both currently unemployed ? are staying with her parents and it’s her parents who support Romney.

    The image of unemployed folks living with their Romney-supporting parents while staunchly supporting Obama ties together several themes of the state of our society. Makers and takers, charity, family, and economic stupidity all shine through in a few short lines of a news item. I’m surprised the car’s owner didn’t have something to say about the economic benefit of car vandalism to body shops.

    1. They must have read up on “The Broken Window Fallacy.”

      Or, it’s entirely possible that it’s a insurance scam of some kind. -)))

      “LOOK! RomneyBots and ObamaTrons vandalized my car! Fix it! Pay me! NO CHECKS!”

    2. They probably worked for Solyndra.

      1. Then they’d still be living off of their hefty bonuses that were given a few days before the BK filing.

        1. They burned all their money as an act of protest against the malignant capitalist system keeping them and their fellow Amurcans in chains, you see.

          1. And of course, by “their” money, you mean the taxpayer money that was stolen from taxpayers and given selectively to a company operated by Obama supporters/bundlers that was considered a loser by government actuaries even before the money was given to them.

            1. Don’t be ridiculous. There’s no such thing as taxpayer money, or my money, or your money. Mother Gaia created us all to share the wealth. Or else.

    3. The creators of All In The Family should sue these people due to IP infringement.

      1. I LOL’d sloop. The resemblance is uncanny.

        I’ll bet Schmitt is studying some worthless feel good Bitterness Studies degree much like Meathead did on the show.

  9. Sometimes I regret my attempts to enlighten you people.

    No more than we, Shreeek.

  10. Look what happens to you if you oppose it. Romney operatives trying to get Michael Sheuer fired and silenced.

    http://non-intervention.com/

  11. Romney operatives will attempt to take your job away and censor you in the media if you oppose this policy.

    Just look what they did to Michael Sheuer at Non-Intervention dot com.

  12. Thanks to the president’s drone warfare?which regularly murders innocents?and other interventions, there are now al-Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers in Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Mali, and elsewhere.

    This asshole just can’t go an article without lying. Sheldon is a pathological liar. He will say and truly believe whatever the peacenik narrative demands, regardless of evidence or lack thereof.

    He’s right, Obamney’s FP should be rejected. They will continue the decades of appeasement and unfocused intervention that have brought us to where we are.

    1. Do I hear a chickenhawk?

      1. Cry some more.

        1. Squaaaaawwwwkkk!!!!! Squaaaaaaawwwwwkk!!!!!

  13. The only way to change US policy is for Romney to get elected. With a Republican in office, the drone strikes will be front page news every day.

    1. I hope the media enjoyed their little 3.5 year vacation. Anyone think they’ll remember how to throw overhand?

      1. Are you kidding? If the Flopster wins, it will be knuckleballs and sliders all the way down.

  14. First, capture and trial would have been a better example for the world than summary execution by Navy SEALs

    This seems rather disingenious. Wouldn’t Sheldon be complaining about the illegality of the arrest and trial and how the US is guilty of worse crimes?

    1. Is that even a question? Sheldon will have his anti-American digs in no matter what.

      1. Typically collectivist of you to equate anti-statism with anti-Americanism, chickenhawk

        1. ITT thread, touchy peaceniks make stunted non-arguments.

  15. I am no fan of Obama, but one thing I know for sure, If Romneys mouth is moving, he is lying.

    http://www.Anon-Yes.tk

    1. It’s getting smarter, guys

  16. “What Obama won’t tell you is that he begged Prime Minister Maliki to ask U.S. troops to remain.”

    “Thanks to the president’s drone warfare?which regularly murders innocents?and other interventions, there are now al-Qaeda affiliates or sympathizers in Libya, Syria, Somalia, Yemen, Mali, and elsewhere”

    “Sanctions don’t cripple the Iranian economy”

    “There are two problems with all of this: According to American and Israeli intelligence, there is no evidence Iran wants a bomb.”

    Citations Needed

    1. Wow. Derprider/Joe actually actually got one right.

      According to American and Israeli intelligence, there is no evidence Iran wants a bomb.”

      This is another straight up lie brought to us by Sheldon and Iran’s Amen Corner of Reason.

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