Puppycide

Police Kill Dog, Shoot Owner As He Attempts To Intervene

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Steven Deleon

As the list of news reports of police officers shooting dogs with minimal provocation grows, I've been waiting, in a watching-the motorcyclist-hit-the-oil-slick sort of way, for a person to get drawn in as "collateral damage." A good many dog owners feel a strong, familial emotional bond to their pets. I know that I dropped a wad of cash and a lot of time on my dog, Max, when he tangled with a rattlesnake. A friend of mine called a business trip short, last week, when her pooch needed emergency surgery. I figured it was only a matter of time before a police officer drawing down on Fido triggered a protective reaction. And so it came to pass in Salem, Oregon.

This time, Steven Deleon only took a bullet in the foot when he jumped in, unsuccessfully, to save his "pit bull" (and let me note here that the term "pit bull" seems to be used by officials less as a technical breed name than as a description of any dog they shoot). According to the Salem News:

A Salem Police officer setting out to shoot a pit bull ended up shooting a man who apparently tried to place himself between the gun and the dog.

A Salem Police officer was firing at the pit bull, a spokesman says, when 38-year old Steven Deleon jumped in, apparently trying to intervene in the situation.

The Statesman-Journal reports that "officers had gone to the address to look for a wanted person. Officers Darren Buchholz and Travis Brossard were in the residence speaking with people when they were attacked by the pit bull." This means that the dog's owners were there in the room with the officers when the dog "attacked" them. Rather than let the owners deal with the dog, Officer Darren Buchholz drew his weapon in the midst of those owners and ended up shooting one of them as well as killing the dog.

Admittedly, there's a certain survival-instinct deficit in jumping in front of a firearm that's been drawn in anger. But that's the sort of thing that people do for their loved ones. I honestly don't know if I would do that for one of my dogs, though I suspect I would. I would certainly do it for my wife or son. I'm not surprised that somebody, on the spot, tried to save his pet and took a bullet for his troubles.

Here's a thought: How long will it be before somebody, standing over the body of his cop-shot animal, really loses his temper, with headlines to follow?

Perhaps realizing that matters canine and law-enforcement-ish have slipped out of hand, the Forth Worth, Texas, police department is retraining its officers to deal with dogs in a less permanent fashion. From KHOU:

Trainer Jim Osorio asks for a show of hands in the police auditorium. "How many people here think they can handle a dog encounter without lethal force? I think all of you can," he said.

Osorio, a former cop, tells them there are dogs in about one in three households — nearly 80 million in all. He says officers shoot about 250,000 dogs a year… often needlessly.

"I'm going to train them whatever they carry can be used on an animal," Osario explained. "Clipboard, flare… whatever."

He demonstrated techniques with his own German Shepherd, Coral. She barked angrily when he raised a short baton, then calmed down, reflecting his own calm demeanor as he spoke to her.

Osario said lethal force is the last resort.

The Fort Worth training comes after police shot a Border Collie belonging to Mark and Cindy Boling. The Bolings apparently extracted the new training regimen as a condition of not suing over the video-recorded incident, which occurred when officers mistakenly arrived at their door. That video is played during the classes.

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104 responses to “Police Kill Dog, Shoot Owner As He Attempts To Intervene

  1. He says officers shoot about 250,000 dogs a year…

    So – “isolated incident.” M’kay?

    1. Could feed a lot of “the hungry” with that much dog meat. Just sayin’…

      1. Could feed a lot of “the hungry wild boars” with dead cops..just sayin…

  2. Shooting dogs is a perk. The pigs aren’t about to give that up. Not when they’ve come to expect being able to do it.

    1. Hey, you wanna get high?

      1. How long’s it been since you had a really good burn?

    2. Cops shoot dogs for the same reason Samurai “tested their swords” on the necks of peasants.

  3. I would go out of my fricken mind if someone harmed my dog. Even the mere thought makes me come close to Hulking Out.

    1. Am I alone in wanting to see that? Do you turn green?

  4. But those poor, poor cops in fear for their lives!

    Who will speak for them?

    1. Fuck them.

  5. “He says officers shoot about 250,000 dogs a year”

    250,000!!! What? That can’t be right. Does that include dogs shot for rabies, after a bad car accident, etc.? That’s just a shockingly high number, even given the number of dumb cops we have.

    1. Close enough for gummint work

    2. 250,000!!! What? That can’t be right.

      Too low?

    3. No, that is a fact.

      You obviously aren’t paying attention.

      That’s why so many of us are angry and no longer trust the cops even when we were raised around them, and why facebook has so many pages DEVOTED to incidents like this, along with ‘dogs shot by police’ and mr. policeman don’t shoot my dog.’

  6. How many dogs are killed by mailmen each year?

    1. I know that a dog in my ‘hood gave the mailman a compound fracture on his leg (not the femur, I don’t think). The dog’s owner got lucky as shit in that she is also a postal worker. I’m sure the mediated it through the union.

  7. What, no charges brought against the dog’s owner for jumping in front of the bullet? “Interfering with police business”, or at the very least a good follow-up tasering?

  8. Trainer Jim Osorio asks for a show of hands in the police auditorium. “How many people here think they can handle a dog encounter without lethal force? I think all of you can,” he said.

    Let me guess, not a single hand went up.

  9. Osorio, a former cop, tells them there are dogs in about one in three households ? nearly 80 million in all. He says officers shoot about 250,000 dogs a year… often needlessly.

    You know what, I’m really glad to hear a statistic on this. Because this trope that all of these incidents are rare or isolated is bullshit. It ain’t rare, it ain’t isolated.

    Nothing else happened.

    1. That’s one every two minutes.

      Very rare and isolated.

  10. How long will it be before somebody, standing over the body of his cop-shot animal, really loses his temper, with headlines to follow?

    I’m surprised it hasn’t happened already. As the occupying army of blue-shirts continues to alienate the citizenry, the odds increase.

    1. I’m sure it has, but since the cop was the only living witness, the whole story never made it into the report.

    2. I’m sure it has happened. One day it will happen to an armed civilian and there will be a dead cop. And killing cops isn’t allowed – just dogs and civilians.

    3. Happened in PA. Dog owner is facing the death penalty.

  11. 250,000 a year!!!! WTF???

    I would sue. What kind of insane sociopath shoots a border collie?

    Any police officer who needlessly shoots a family pet should be immediately fired and never be allowed to serve in law enforcement again. He should be criminally prosecuted and face serious jail time. The owner of the murdered pet should sue and should be rewarded with millions in damages. A family dog is a sentient being, a family member which cannot be replaced.

    I don’t think this will change until courts start criminally and civilly punishing these criminals appropriately.

    1. Border collies are a terrible, sadistic breed. They have nought but evil in their hearts. When they lunge for you they aim not for the neck, but for your very soul.

      1. Of course, that soul needed lick’n

        1. And your soul better throw the damn ball.

    2. Any police officer who needlessly shoots a family pet should be immediately fired and never be allowed to serve in law enforcement again. He should be criminally prosecuted and face serious jail time.

      One word: UNION.

      1. Public unions must die.

        Public unions delenda est.

          1. Actually:

            vigili ite domus.

            Now write a 100X. Do it again and I’ll cut your balls off!

            1. It took almost two hours. Thanks’ Kodos supporter. You ave restored my waning faith in these assholes humanity.

              1. “two hours”

                Sorry for the delay – had to watch the clip to get the latin right, that led to 90 minutes of MP clips on youtube before I got my priorities in order and got back to commenting here
                .

        1. It has NOTHING to do with unions.

          Again, you are another person not paying attention to these cases.

          It’s because cops stick up for each other. Even in the most egregious cases when there are videotapes or dashcam videos, police departments and chiefs ALWAYS stand by their sociopaths with badges as if they were little tin gods.

          They act like they’re above the law, and their department behaves the same way.

  12. And yeah, I wanna see a picture of that dog before I am willing to take the officer’s word that it was a pit.

    1. I should point out that every pit bull I’ve interacted with (N=3) has been a lovely, well tempered dog. If they have a personality flaw, it’s that they’ve tended to be a little on the goofy side.

      It’s bad owners that give the breed its reputation.

      1. “Goofy” is exactly the right word for your typical pit. They can be kind of hot around other dogs, but around people? Mostly they are just crazy friendly. I’ve had six, and not a single one ever showed the slightest aggression toward people, even when those people were complete strangers on their turf.

        I was looking at a litter of puppies once, and opened the door to go into the house. The father of the litter was there to greet me, and he was eyeball to eyeball with a complete stranger, in his own house, with his pups behind him.

        He licked my hand.

        1. He licked my hand.

          Just before you cold-cocked him with a hammer, right? I mean that is the only way to handle a strange dog approaching you.

          1. This was a (short) mountain of a dog. Around a hundred pounds or so. He wouldn’t have even noticed the love tap from any hammer I could swing with one hand.

          2. Which reminds me: While we were visiting, one of the pups was getting quite rambunctious and barky. Dad (who went by “Demon”) walks up and takes the pup’s whole head in his mouth for a second or two, then walks off. The pup looked somewhat abashed (and damp) for a minute, then went right back at it.

            Demon went upstairs.

            Real killers, those dogs.

            1. Real killers, those dogs.

              Yep, have a friend that has one, biggest baby I have ever seen. He and our Dogue have a blast playing together.

      2. The only time I’ve seen pit bulls act aggressive is around other dogs.
        Around people they tend to to that entire body wag.
        Throw a strange dog into the mix and let the savagery begin.

      3. And there’s so many mixed breeds out there that you can rarely be sure. Boxer mixes can look like pits. Many other terrier mixes. Bull dog mixes.

    2. Who cares if it was?

      I have one, and a couple of purebred prize gundogs. The one I can trust to approach anyone with nothing but a grin and a wagging tail in every circumstance? The pit bull.

      Apart from the size of a dog (obviously a bull mastiff poses more of a genuine threat to an adult human than a yorkshire terrier) the breed doesn’t excuse any action. If a cop sees a pit bull with a wagging tail and a grin, and thinks, “Threat!”, it shows that the cop is so ignorant about dogs that he shouldn’t be a cop. If 1 in 3 homes has a dog, shouldn’t cops have at least some rudimentary training in recognizing what situations might pose a threat, and which ones wouldn’t?

      1. In all seriousness, again, if 1 in 3 households has a dog in it, this is like sending a traffic cop to patrol the streets when he doesn’t know what a turn signal is.

  13. A Salem Police officer was firing at the pit bull, a spokesman says,

    A target the size of a pit bull is attacking him, isn’t shooting back and doesn’t know to serpentine for cover, and he’s missing it?!

  14. there is zero doubt cops shoot dogs needlessly sometimes. that being said – videotape the cops. i’ve seen numerous examples on videotape (i’ve posted some here) of OBVIOUSLY justified dog shoots as well as examples of obviously unjustified dog shoots.

    hopefully, with more officers carrying body cameras etc. we will have more video evidence so those shooting dogs NEEDLESSLY can be brought to justice and those who do so justifiably are given full support.

    if you want a litmus test for a person who is TRULY interested in police reform and police being given a fair shake, check for their support of videotaping by cops as well as of cops. and in dynamic situations like dog attacks, etc. it’s pretty much the only way to get the real hard proof in the pudding as to justification.

    i’;d be curious to know if the 250k includes euthanasia (iow wounded animals) and not just dogs allegedly attacking cops.

    1. there is zero doubt cops shoot dogs needlessly sometimes. that being said – videotape the cops. i’ve seen numerous examples on videotape (i’ve posted some here) of OBVIOUSLY justified dog shoots as well as examples of obviously unjustified dog shoots.

      If we’re to believe the former cop/trainer, it happens continuously, regularly and almost always unnecessarily.

      As for videotaping the cops, we’d love to. But you risk a beatdown, arrest, being killed and your video ‘mysteriously disappearing’ when you do. So yes, videotape the cops, we’re in 100% agreement. But to think that there are no consequences to doing so… yeah…

      1. oh, jesus spare me. i’ve videotaped cops on dozens of occasions and ther are literally scores of thousands of videotapes on youtube of people filming cops

        yes, we all know about the war on cameras, but cowardice is no option

        VIDEOTAPE cops

        that will make a difference. us bitching about it here won’t.

        i’m not saying there are no consequences. guess what, fighting for justice often means – consequences.

        my best friend was shot and killed doing so. i’ve been kicked, shot at, spit on, suffered knife attacks, etc.

        that;s the real world.

        1. oh, jesus spare me. i’ve videotaped cops on dozens of occasions and ther are literally scores of thousands of videotapes on youtube of people filming cops

          There’s plenty of evidence that the chances of running into problems with videotaping a cop is at least as likely as not running into problems.

          I was rudely ejected from an accident scene after calling 911 to report it, when the driver fled the scene. I had my phone/camera out.

          I don’t know if it was the camera that had the officer so pissed off… but regardless, telling your primary crime witness and 911 OP to “get the fuck out” doesn’t seem like the kind of new professionalism that gives me such great confidence in the police.

  15. Why is a former cop doing the training? Why don’t we get the mail man to do the training? They seem to be able to stumble through their jobs on a daily basis, not killing dogs.

    1. A common mail man trick is to carry cheap dog treats around with you. My cousin was best buds with every dog on his route within a month.

      1. animal control officers do this, too. it works. i have some in my car.

        1. We have a 110 lb Lab/Rottweiler that is real friendly except when someone is at the door. She loves the UPS guy because he always leaves a dog bone on top of the package. But she sounds like she is cursing him in every nasty word she knows while she’s waiting for us to open the door — so she can run out, eat the treat while still barking and then carry the boxes in. He takes pictures of her when she carries/drags the really heavy ones in.

          Guns don’t frighten her. Whoever had her before us must have taken her hunting when she was a pup. We take her when we go target shooting. She always looks disappointed when we fail to provide her something to fetch. I guess we aren’t very good providers.

          If the cops (or anyone else) ever burst into our home, they’d have to deal with her unless we got to her first. We’d really hate to be one of those mistaken address statistics.

    2. mail men don’t do what cops do. they don’t arrest people in homes, confront them under hostile circs, etc.

      a trainer should be familiar with the dynamic. a mailman would not be.

      1. If that were the only situation where dogs were shot, I’d agree with you 100%. Unfortunately, we have video evidence of a cop pulling into the driveway, and when a dog ran up to greet, the cop shot the dog, claiming is life was in mortal DANGAAAAH!

        I’d like to see some stats on dog-killings.

        Like if there’s been an increase, if that increase correlates with a decrease in crime. Pair it up with stats on cops being injured by dogs. I think we could figure out really fast if we have a cop-shooting-dogs problem in this country.

        1. and i readily agree. mailmen could have valuable input. it’s not a 100% either/or.

          but the cop/dog dynamic is different than the mailman dog dyna,mic since we often have to deal with the homeowner under hostile/arrest circs. a mailman doesn’t

          but can cops learn from mailmen? yes. and even moreso – animal control officers.

          fwiw, that’s actually a good idea. hsve ACO’s conduct roll call training.

          sounds like a good use of a roll call

          !

  16. Officers Darren Buchholz and Travis Brossard were in the residence speaking with people when they were attacked by the pit bull.

    This makes it sound like the Boys in Blue were having a nice chat with the good citizens when the dog just went totally batshit and went after them completely unprovoked. I wonder . . . .

    1. “Are you listening to me?” *Pow* “Do I have your attention?”

  17. What, no charges brought against the dog’s owner for jumping in front of the bullet?

    Obstruction of justice, disorderly conduct, menacing…

    1. Attempted suicide, threatening an officer (with emotional harm), animal cruelty (it took an extra shot to put the beast out of its misery), etc.

    2. All my bullets are named Justice.

  18. This makes it sound like the Boys in Blue were having a nice chat with the good citizens when the dog just went totally batshit and went after them completely unprovoked.

    I noticed that, too.

    I’m sure the goons were being completely calm, dispassionate and reasonable during the interrogation.

    1. i notice a stat on dogs shot, but not a stat on injuries caused by dogs…

      per the humane society…

      Dog Bite Stats
      ? 4.7 million Americans are bitten each year (2% of the US population).
      ? 800,000-1 million (at least 1 in 6) dog bite injuries require medical attention
      ? About 334,000 victims are sent to an ER (914 per day!)
      ? About 51% of dog bite victims are children
      ? 3,000 victims are mail carriers
      ? An American has a 1 in 50 chance of being bitten each year
      ? Half of children in the US are bitten by a dog by their 12th birthday
      ? From 1979-1996, 304 people in the US died from a dog attack?average of 17 per
      year.
      ? The chances that a fatal dog attack will be a burglar are 1 in 177. The chances that
      it will be a child are 7 in 10.
      ? For every fatal dog attack in the US, there are 230,000 bites that are not treated by
      a doctor.
      ? 61% of dog bites or attacks happen at home or in a familiar place.
      ? 77% of the biting dogs belong to the victim’s family or a friend.
      ? Dog attacks are responsible for an estimated $1-2 billion in monetary losses every
      year.

      1. So, good shoot? Based on the stats.

        1. who the fuck knows? 250k sounds way too high for my taste. granted, i’d way rather get injured than shoot a dog. that’s me, though.

          i’m simply saying posting stats of how often cops shoot dogs and NOT posting stats about injuries caused by dogs is on;y showing 1/2 the picture.

          1. i’m simply saying posting stats of how often cops shoot dogs and NOT posting stats about injuries caused by dogs is on;y showing 1/2 the picture.

            I do not see how this is showing only half the picture. People know dogs may bite, but that is irrelevant to how many dogs are shot. What is relevant is how the officers handle the situation, and from the stats (250,000 seems high), I would have to say not well. Do you have the right to protect yourself, absolutely. But it seems that the cops are using excessive force to do so. That is what is relevant.

            1. and again, BOTH stats are relevant/ i stand by my 1/2 the picture.

              most people are suprised at how often cops shoot dogs. assuming that’s a true stat, it’s horrific

              however, i was ALSO surprised at how often dogs bite people and how serious those injuries were

              it’s also a horrific stat

              BOTH are relevant imo.

              again, i don’t know the circs aobut the 250k. does it include euthanasia for instance?

              furthermore, if we can tone down/pull back the stupid-ass war on drugs, we can seriously help the problem since i bet many of these dogs are shot on dynamic raids.

              fewer dynamic raids = fewer dogs shot

              1. and again, BOTH stats are relevant/ i stand by my 1/2 the picture.

                That is fine, I maintain the second stat is irrelevant. The one stat you do not see that would make the picture much clearer is what Paul. said:

                Paul.| 10.26.12 @ 12:35PM |#

                I’d like to see some stats on dog-killings.

                Like if there’s been an increase, if that increase correlates with a decrease in crime. Pair it up with stats on cops being injured by dogs. I think we could figure out really fast if we have a cop-shooting-dogs problem in this country.

              2. Is there such a thing as a static raid? Or is that just a euphamism for para-military style dawn assault?

          2. I notice that the humane society doesnt think the dogs biting cops numbers are large enough to even mention.

      2. ? For every fatal dog attack in the US, there are 230,000 bites that are not treated by
        a doctor.
        ? 61% of dog bites or attacks happen at home or in a familiar place.
        ? 77% of the biting dogs belong to the victim’s family or a friend.
        ? Dog attacks are responsible for an estimated $1-2 billion in monetary losses every
        year.
        ? Insurance companies paid out an estimated $310 million in dog bite liability
        claims in 1999 (20% of total homeowner’s insurance liability payouts).
        ? Hospital expenses for dog bite-related ER visits are estimated at $102 million.
        ? Medical costs related to dog bites are second only to the medical costs for STDs.
        ? One in three homeowners insurance claims pertain to a dog bite.
        ? 77% of injuries to children under 10 years old are facial.
        ? The face is the most frequent target (77% of all injuries).
        ? Dog bites are second only to baseball/softball injuries for childhood ER visits.
        ? 50% of dog attack victims have permanent scars of aesthetic and/or functional
        consequences.
        ? Intact males represent 70-76% of reported dog bite incidents.
        ? Unneutered dogs are 3 times more likely to bite.

        that said, i believe cops shoot dogs TOO often. remedies: 1) better training. 2) accountability 3) videotaping

        imnsho

        1. How many cops doing the shooting are intact males? You may have stumbled onto the solution.

          1. bingo!

          2. Are you suggesting that some of the cops may not be intact males? Interesting theory.

            1. dood. way to state the obvious for the whoosh prone

            2. I think he’s suggesting that police should be eunuchs. I, for one, do not have a problem with that. Apparently Dunphy doesn’t either.

              1. I think it would certainly cut down on the number of bullies who later become cops to get their authrotah boners on. It’s not possible to get any kind of boner if one’s balls have been removed.

          3. I’ve advocated this for years.

            Want to exercise awesome power over your fellow man? You lose your right to reproduce. We’ll put them in a clay jar full of brine just like the Emperor of China’s civil servants so you can be buried with them.

        2. ? 77% of injuries to children under 10 years old are facial.
          ? The face is the most frequent target (77% of all injuries).

          IOW, don’t go face to face with a strange dog. Duh. Greeting a dog head on is often interpreted by the dog as challenge for dominance. Especially if the dog is male, and doubly so if he’s intact.

          1. IOW, don’t go face to face with a strange dog.

            Most are not strange dogs.

            ? 61% of dog bites or attacks happen at home or in a familiar place.
            ? 77% of the biting dogs belong to the victim’s family or a friend.

            From my experience I would say a lot are from children pestering the hell out of the dog and not backing off when the dog indicates it has had enough.

        3. ? Hospital expenses for dog bite-related ER visits are estimated at $102 million.
          ? Medical costs related to dog bites are second only to the medical costs for STDs

          The bullshit alarm is ringing..

      3. Dogs are dumb animals. Cops are huma….. Well I was going to say human beings, but I haven’t seen much evidence of that. Ok, cops and dogs are both dumb animals.

  19. Here’s a thought: How long will it be before somebody, standing over the body of his cop-shot animal, really loses his temper, with headlines to follow?

    This. If I ever have a cop shoot my dog I’m not sure what I’d do. Probably hulk out and end up getting shot too. Then, if I survive, get charged with assaulting a police officer and fined for owning a “pit bull”, since pit bulls are banned where I live (my dog is a chocolate lab/ rhodesian ridgeback mix, BTW).

    Hell I once had a cop come to my house because of a dispute between a couple of neighbors (he wanted to ask if I knew anything about it). When my dog ran up to greet him I saw his hand start to go down toward his gun. Luckily for everyone involved I was able to blurt out “he’s friendly” and get between him and my dog before the cop could draw his gun.

    1. You got lucky.

    2. Luckily for everyone involved I was able to blurt out “he’s friendly” and get between him and my dog before the cop could draw his gun.

      Wow, risked a bullet for your dog.

      1. In hindsight, it would seem so. At the time I wasn’t really thinking. I’m also not sure how intent the cop was on pulling his gun and using it. It’s possible that his hand went down to his gun as a reflex, just in case, and when I said “he’s friendly” and he saw the dog’s tail wagging he probably relaxed.

        My moving between the two also wasn’t quite as dramatic as it might have come off. It’s not like I heroically dived in between them, I just took a step to my right, and also, and this may be key too, took control of the dog before he could jump up on the cop or anything like that, made him sit, etc.

  20. I think we all know why cops kill so many dogs.

    Because they can.

    “Fuck you. That’s why.”

  21. ? About 51% of dog bite victims are children

    Emotionally stunted psychopaths channel their inner childhood fears and shoot any dog headed their way.

    It all makes sense now.

  22. I notice in dunphy’s little stat list there’s no mention of how many cops are bitten by dogs every year, yet the # of mailmen is noticeable. Perhaps that’s because the # of cops bitten by dogs is so small as to be negligible…especially when compared to the 250k they shoot.

    If I had to guess, I’d say the ratio is around 250 dogs shot to every cop bit. Now that’s what I call going home to their families every night, which as we all know from reading PoliceOne is the most important part of a cop’s job.

    1. I recall in that instance where the cop shot the dog that ran through the back gate into the front yard, the police chief dismissing it with something like “We don’t put any value on the lives of animals.”
      Well, except for their animals.

  23. He says officers shoot about 250,000 dogs a year… often needlessly.

    As others have already noted, that number seems mind-blowingly high. If it’s accurate, the problem is even worse than we Hampersanders thought.

  24. A Salem Police officer setting out to shoot a pit bull ended up shooting a man who apparently tried to place himself between the gun and the dog.

    A Salem Police officer was firing at the pit bull, a spokesman says, when 38-year old Steven Deleon jumped in, apparently trying to intervene in the situation.

    Come not between the Nazg?l and his prey! Or he will not slay thee in thy turn. He will bear thee away to the houses of lamentation, beyond all darkness, where thy flesh shall be devoured, and thy shrivelled mind be left naked to the Lidless Eye.

  25. Pepper spray is so effective against grizzly bear attacks, that experts now recommend that even people who are carrying large-caliber rifles in Alaska ALSO carry pepper spray, because their chances of survival are significantly greater if they spray the bear than rely on the gun. This appears, most recently, in an article in Sports Afield, a magazine for safari and big game hunters, not some hippie rag written by people who think you shouldn’t shoot bears.

    In the big picture, there are few if ANY justified self-defense dog shootings by cops. Basic training, cheap and rudimentary equipment, and a different attitude towards “civilians”, would obviate nearly all such shootings.

    1. FTR Grizzlies can weigh up to 1500 lbs., and they’re wild predators, not domesticated animals. Anything that will stop a Grizz (and pepper spray did so 100% of the time in the cases studies), will stop a dog. Any dog. $20 at REI will buy you a good can of bear spray and a holster.

    2. Also FTR, just a box of police quality handgun cartridges will cost you $50.

  26. Let’s be honest. Many cops like shooting things – people, dogs, whatever – and argue to accept any opportunity and to look for any excuse. And what’s the fun of being a cop if you can’t shoot things?

  27. You shoot my dog, I shoot you.

  28. 250,000 dogs shot vs 1,000,000 dog bites per year.

    We need better response times from the police.

  29. “Here’s a thought: How long will it be before somebody, standing over the body of his cop-shot animal, really loses his temper, with headlines to follow?”

    If it were my dog? Not long at all. I wouldn’t hesitate to kill the cop who killed my dog.

  30. George Hitcho defended his dogs and property from the police by shooting a cop. The story is here:

    http://www.dailymail.co.uk/new…..-dogs.html

  31. I’d rather see a dead cop on my floor rather than let them murder my dog.

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