Updated: Pension System is Broke! 2004 Study: 39% of Chicago Teachers Send Their Kids to Private Schools
If striking public school teachers in Chicago aren't in a hurry to get back to work, many of their kids will nonetheless find their noses in a book.
That's because according to a 2004 study, about 39 percent of Windy City teachers send their kids to private schools. The same study found that only about 23 percent of all families in Chicago sent their kids to private schools. What do the public-school teachers know?
There's also this (both courtesy of Hot Air): Chicago high schoolers get the least amount of instruction time per year out of any major metro district.
Along with the basic compensation numbers - Chicago teachers average somewhere around $71,000-$76,000 per year in salary - and the turned-down deal (including an average 16 percent wage hike over four years), it would really take a total wilting by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the Chicago school board not to win this battle.
Hat Tip: Reason Foundation education analyst Lisa Snell, who explains why school choice is growing below:
Snell also points to this Education Week story (registration required) that lays out all sorts of major problems with the system.
- "The total number of students in CPS declined by nearly 35,000 between 2002 and 2011, yet the district's annual expenses grew during that time by more than $1.7 billion."
- "Since 2009, the number of CPS teachers who do not work in charter schools has declined by nearly 1,700….The amount of money going into charters grew eightfold between 2002 and 2011, from $47 million to nearly $380 million."
- "Since 2001, the district has seen its net assets plummet from $1.2 billion to negative $1.2 billion, a decrease of 200 percent."
- "This year, CPS reached its legal threshold for property taxes, which grew from $1.5 billion in 2002 to $1.9 billion in 2011, a 27 percent increase. For the past few years, CPS benefited from federal stimulus money that doubled its federal funding to more than $1.1 billion in 2011. But that money has now dried up."
- "Three main factors are driving the steady growth in costs: teacher compensation, the construction program and paying off debt."
Increased retirement benefits for teachers? Construction boom despite shrinking student body? No more federal stimulus dollars and upper limits reached on tax revenue? What could possibly go right?
The one upside in the story: More kids are going to charters, where they at least get to choose some aspect of their education (and at a lower cost to taxpayers).
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In 2004, Chigago teachers were apparently already being paid too well.
What's worse. The fact that they choose to send their kids to private schools, or that they can afford to do so on a "meager" public teacher salary?
There are so many wow moments in that statistic. Wow.
Indeed. Including the RACIST! moment.
There is a simple solution!
http://gawker.com/5943005/ther.....ols-crisis
Yes, typical Gawkerian thinking. Do the opposite of what we should do in a sane world. Brought to you by the same people that are running the Obama family in The Incredibles garb today.
They are incredible indeed.
That kind of shit is pathetic.
This is not an original idea. Billionaire wise hobbit Warren Buffet once told school reformer Michelle Rhee that the easiest way to fix schools was to "make private schools illegal and assign every child to a public school by random lottery." In England, the notion of banning private education?while highly unlikely?has long been a part of the political debate entertained by major-party candidates.
It's no different than the slow, grim creep of public healthcare.
For the system to work, you have to lock people in... literally.
The Old Soviet Union and North Korea don't build walls around their people for nothing.
I saw we ban fucking public education. That would, in short order, make things better. Jesus.
You're in your angry place again.
I have children I have to send to public daycare centers. Because I don't have the money of a Chicago teacher to burn.
But now they throw it, hopin that they'll get drunk off Moet
or Cristal, but that's not my par-ticular style and taste
My name ain't Puff and I ain't got loot to waste
I ain't got time to waste, bad bitches is all up in my face
Crazy ignorant, sweatin links minks and shit
Cosmetic, but deep down, derelict
Fake players, never get out the projects
It's pathetic -- the way she bends for dividends
bah, the only reason you don't have money is because you keep buying more monocles. It helps to just get one or two high-quality diamond models, instead of your ever increasing historical models.
Serfs aren't free, you know.
They should be generating revenue, ProL. What on earth are you doing wrong?
It's just a cashflow issue.
If you can't afford serfs, use your own children. Maybe they can get homeschool elective credit in monocle-making "class."
I wish I saw. I meant "I say."
I can't find it. But I recall reading a piece about the Wisconsin union reforms and it including a Wisconsin teacher talking about how hard it was going to be to tell her daughter she could no longer go to private school. This was said without a single hint of self awareness or irony.
While we're at it can we ban fucking Warren Buffet!
I think womankind, collectively, has already unofficially banned fucking Warren Buffet. He is not happy about it, so he is buying in to all this liberal Top. Men. Bullshit as revenge on the society that wronged him.
Good god. These people are real.
Let the wilting begin...
"Along with the basic compensation numbers - Chicago teachers average somewhere around $71,000-$76,000 per year in salary - and the turned-down deal (including an average 16 percent wage hike over four years), it would really take a total wilting by Mayor Rahm Emanuel and the Chicago school board not to win this battle."
Let the teachers go. They will then lack the money to send their kids to private schools.
Here in the fine metropolis of Grand Rapids, (middle-class on up) parents either flee to the suburbs, or send their kids to private schools. A friend of my wife, who isn't particularly religious, sends her son to private Catholic school.
Sounds like a good incentivization step. "Oh, you don't want us to measure your performance? OK. How about we mandate that your children have to attend public school. Maybe then you'll perform."
They should bring Matt Daimen in for a rally.
MATT DAMON!
I live in Chicago, but thankfully I don't have any children. Unfortunately, I also went to college here and therefore know and am friends with several CPS teachers. They are universally pro-striking, which I find shocking. The average CPS teacher makes more than the average college-educated Chicagoan. Their current evaluation system is not only a joke, but it's also illegal to maintain under state law. This fight is really just a show of force and frustration. They can see the writing on the wall. Charters are getting expanded, and teacher jobs will be cut. Of course, the CTU members could easily go work for a charter school, but they'd have to take a ~20% pay cut.
What I find especially depressing is that I find myself on the same side as Rahm and CPS, which offered CTU a 16% raise over the next four years. I guess they plan to pay for it by cutting the number of teachers, but that would put median teacher salary right around $85k in 2016. Seriously? That's the compromise?
You know, if I could ditch my current job and make almost the same money and have the 3 months off in the summer, I think I might take a swing at teaching. Plus, the opportunity to infect instruct young minds.
Hell, if they can't evaluate me I won't have to listen to managers yammering about the project being late. No customers wanting me to repeal the laws of physics or give them a couple thousand hours of work for free.
Of course, I'd have to deal with Bratley and Screamerella's parents, wouldn't I? I think I'll stay where I'm at.
You really think you could be in a den of self-righteous liberalism without clawing your eyes out?
Besides, the first time that you were caught putting a libertarian or Austrian (economics) spin into a lecture, they'd figure out a way to fire you.
Tolerant people do not tolerate that kind of intolerance.
Would it be legal to require, as a condition of employment, that teachers (a) live in the City of Chicago and (b) send any kids to Chicago public schools?
I seem to remember hearing about some municipalities trying to require that their employees actually live in town, but don't recall if it stood up in court.
It stood up. And they can require municipal employees to live within the city. But I think they got away with that because it only applied to cops and fireman. The argument was that if there was an ever all hands emergency, the cops and fireman had to live close enough to get to work quickly. You can't really make that argument with teachers.
I don't know about the legality of making their kids attend public schools, but CPS teachers already have to live in the city. I'm married to one and we live in a far outer, suburban-esqe neighborhood full of cops, firemen, and other teachers who have to live in the city limits, but who don't want to live 'in the city'.
I enjoy my Ohio Online School...
Seriously, can't the teachers be fired for not showing up to work for two weeks? If not, why should unionized teachers ever show up to work? Why not strike perpetually?
Throw down the gauntlet and nip this crap in the bud. There's thousands of unemployed recent graduates with teacher licenses working as subs across the country who would gladly move to Chicago and take half that salary. The city could even pay for rent on decent apartments for a year as a perk of instant relocation and still save a ton of money.