Paul Ryan Reviews Prove Reagan Was Only Republican President Ever
Cheers, jeers and leers for the RNC speech by Mitt Romney's running mate
Conservatives compare Paul Ryan to a certain Republican president. (Hint: It's not Chet Arthur or Bill Taft). Liberals claim to "check" the GOP vice-presidential candidate's "lies" and "whoppers" (while continuing the recently lamented habit of defining fact-checking down). At least one adult male goes public with his steamy inner vision of Ryan as the kind of virile hombre men want to be and women want to be with. Another slathers Ryan in hard, gemlike prose that will make you say, "What is 'gravitas'? Is it a fancy word for 'gravity' like when they call a fat guy 'Falstaffian'?" And one other fella says he's breaking off his relationship with the candidate.
But (unlike the general election) the pundit action isn't all man-on-man. Here are the cheers, jeers and leers Mitt Romney's running mate has received for his lengthy speech last night at the Tampa Republican National Convention:
Gawker
CNN Correspondents Praise Ryan's Speech, Acknowledge 'Seven or Eight' Factual Errors (UPDATED: Now With Lies Outlined)
Joel B. Pollak
RYAN'S MASTERFUL SPEECH: A FIRESIDE CHAT WITH A NATION IN CRISIS
@BrazenlyLiberal
Stephen Colbert's perfect description of #PaulRyan budget: "Ayn Rand Fanfiction"
Joan Walsh
Paul Ryan's brazen lies: His Republican National Convention speech was stunning for its dishonesty
David Weigel
Here's a list of some of the whoppers that Paul Ryan served up Wednesday night.
@VanJones68
His lies notwithstanding, #PaulRyan is best conservative speaker of his generation - and likely the best right-wing speaker alive today.
AP
FACT CHECK: RYAN TAKES FACTUAL SHORTCUTS IN SPEECH
Jim Geraghty
Ryan and Rice: The Most Reaganesque Addresses in a Long Time?
Charles Kesler
Reaganesque at the Republican Convention
Matt Kibbe
Ryan's speech builds trust among grassroots conservatives
William Saletan
Dear Paul: Why I'm breaking up with Paul Ryan.
@KurtSchlichter
Liberal Women: Paul Ryan is the man your tofu-eating, can't-protect-you-cuz-he-doesn't-believe-in-guns, sexually inadequate husband isn't.
Rich Lowry
Initial reaction: A splendidly written speech. Ryan's delivery was a little leaden at the beginning, but he picked up steam toward the end.
@GOP_PartyParrot
NDAA, Patriot Act, TARP, Stimulus ignore #PaulRyan record on those things. They do not matter #GOP2012
Andrew Sullivan
Ryan runs over, but the crowd loves him - if not in the ecstatic way they loved Palin. If you ignore the details, and wipe your memory like an Etch-A-Sketch, it can sound like a wonderful return to fiscal responsibility. But slashing more taxes for the very wealthy, boosting defense spending, keeping Medicare intact for the current elderly, and gutting Obamacare's savings is a return to supply side fantasy, not a serious alternative to getting us back to fiscal sanity. He's not Tom Coburn; he won't compromise; which means he cannot "get it done". That's my issue. The disciple of Ayn Rand publicly says that society should be judged by the way it treats its weakest and neediest. A man without shame or coherence.
Will Wilkinson
It was an uneven night, but it ended on an up note. Paul Ryan demonstrated that he is an appealing, energetic campaigner comfortable with the sort of looseness with facts voters perpetually reward. This somewhat sullies his reputation as a plainspoken, fact-oriented numbers guy, but Mitt Romney hired a running mate, not an actuary, and an able running mate is what Mr Ryan is proving to be. That said, despite his capacity for relatively substantive discourse, Mr Ryan's youthful looks and tenor vocals made him feel slightly light, especially when compared to Condoleezza Rice, who in her speech earlier in the evening had the gravitas of a neutron star.
@TheKochtopus
#PaulRyan Obscures His #Koch-Backed Agenda With a Pack of Lies in Convention Speech bit.ly/SWlCJX #LyinRyan #gopfail #tlot #p2
Roger McShane
I will concede that Paul Ryan's performance tonight was very good. But it was a performance, given by a man whose reputation is based on forthrightness. I simply cannot handle the cognitive dissonance that is now welling up in my mind. He was touted by the other speakers as a man who tackles the tough issues. But tonight he demagogued them. Maybe that makes for good politics, but it's disappointing on every other level.
Josh Marshall
On optics and on motivating the audience, a good speech. The convention was pumped for Ryan considerably more than for Mitt. It was also a speech of astonishing intellectual dishonesty – on small things, like when plants closed; and much larger things like the entire economic trajectory of the last three and a half years.
Ezra Klein
Chris Christie and Paul Ryan hit the same themes. We have hard choices facing us. We need leaders who won't be deterred by the polls. Leaders who won't duck the tough issues. Leaders who won't hide the hard truths. Do any of these lines really sound like a description of Mitt Romney?
@SteveForbesCEO
Re: @PaulRyanVP: Ronald Reagan would be proud! #rncconvention #paulryan
Elspeth Reeve
Ryan has a reputation as a "wonk" -- a numbers-obsessed policy nerd. He and Romney reportedly "geek out" together when talking about entitlement reform. And Ryan is supposed to be really good at explaining policy to the masses. But he didn't explain much policy tonight.
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There is no way in hell I'm going to subject myself to that nightmarish reading list. Let's just summarize, "Talking heads use talking points to talk out their asses."
As disappointed as I am in Ryan's speech and the whole Mediscare tactic, that AP "fact check" is a horribly disingenuous article that more appropriately deserves to be called an editorial. It's one thing when fact checking to say "X said this program cost Y, according to the CBO this program does not cost Y". That is a fact check. It is wholly different to say "X said the stimulus was a bad policy intended to benefit cronies, X also made an effort to secure some of that money for his district" and not even mention that he voted against it. Yes, the stimulus was bad, but once the money is appropriated, even if you opposed it, you are doing your constituents a disservice if you don't at least attempt to get some of the money for your district.
so, you expected the AP fact-check to actually check facts. Now, what we have told you about that. No Interwebz for you.
Alternatively, you could interpret it as taking the coward's way out--freeing yourself to attack and demagogue the stimulus while still taking the loot. Was it bad policy, or was it good policy (for Paul Ryan's district)?
does a Congressman have the authority to deny the loot? Doubtful. He can tell locals to give it back and I believe a couple of governors said no to certain pots of DC cash. Didn't stop the left from demagoguing them, but nothing does.
It's cowardly? Wierd. Admitting you lost, and adapting to the new environment is usually considered couragous. If I lose the fight, I'm not going to protest by letting my opponents take all the cash.
He knew the outcome before he voted, just as with every other vote in Congress.
I'm not even talking about standing on principle. If there was some virtue in taking stimulus funds, then it obviously wasn't all bad policy.
Wrong. It was bad policy, but if the government has already decided to hand out x amount of dollars, it would be stupid to not take some for ones constituents. It's not like him taking some home, had any impact on the amount ultimately spent.
"If there was some virtue in taking stimulus funds, then it obviously wasn't all bad policy."
If someone steals $40 from me and I have a chance to steal $20 of it back it doesn't make either action virtuous and it sure as hell doesn't make stealing good policy.
Nobody stole anything from Paul Ryan's district.
"Nobody stole anything from Paul Ryan's district."
Analogies...how do they work?
Well, you wouldn't be "stealing" as that $20 actually belongs to you, so yes I'd say that's virtuous, or at least not unvirtuous.
Exactly. The whole $40 is still yours, as theft does not strip you of title. Reclaiming stolen property strikes me as virtuous.
"Reclaiming stolen property strikes me as virtuous."
Not sure I equate morally just acts to virtue, but I suppose it could be argued such
I wonder why Ryan didn't give it to the "the working men and women of this country," the ones who were "cut out of the deal." Obviously, as it's been explained here, it wasn't "a case of political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism" when he directed $20.3M to the Wisconsin Energy Conservation Corp. I wonder if anyone on its board of directors has any political connections? Any of them major contributors to anyone? I just can't figure out why they got all that money.
WTF is this "Scribblelive" shit? The new Twitter?
Condoleezza Rice, who in her speech earlier in the evening had the gravitas of a neutron star.
He could have compared her to any of a whole array of supermassive astronomical objects, and yet he picked one that barely radiates in the visible spectrum. So racist. What the hell, WW?
PS Can somebody fact-check the description of Paul Ryan as a disciple of Ayn Rand?
PS Can somebody fact-check the description of Paul Ryan as a disciple of Ayn Rand?
of course, not; for the left, the mere mention of Rand's name is a scare word, meant conjure up images of some Grimm-like villain who eats children by day and stews puppies by night.
The chimera of Rand is of greater value to the left than the reality.
"The reason I got involved in public service, by and large, if I had to credit one thinker, one person, it would be Ayn Rand."
--Paul Ryan
and the original reason I got into broadcasting was I liked Curt Gowdy. Didn't make me either a fisherman or a Red Sox fan.
He's certainly not sounding like a Randian recently. He's sounding a lot like Mitt Romney in fact--completely devoid of coherence.
Yeah, at least Ryan talked a good fight, but he never backed it up with actions.
From now on, I will read every comment you author my internal Joe Buck voice.
One could as easily say that they got into public service because of Hitler, but if they seem to ideologically not match up with Hitler, or in this case Rand, that doesn't necessarily say anything at all about their policy ideals.
You know who else said they got into public service because of Hitler....
Mussolini was pre-Hitler, so that can't be it.
Fidel Castro?
Tony, that doesn't tell us that he got into politics because he wants to implement or oppose Objectivism. Try again, only with more brain cells next time.
"neutron" is dog whistle for the n-word.
Thank you for a valueless, inane catalog of one liners.
In other news, unemployment applications numbered 374,000 -- up from the 372,000 first reported.
Liberal Women: Paul Ryan is the man your tofu-eating, can't-protect-you-cuz-he-doesn't-believe-in-guns, sexually inadequate husband isn't.
Okay, that shit was funny.
Didn't see the speech. Was watching Hunger Games instead. Jennifer Lawrence is teh awesome.
Condoleezza Rice, who in her speech earlier in the evening had the gravitas of a neutron star.
Note to Will Wilkerson: "gravitas" has nothing to do with gravity, which is the defining feature of a neutron star. Stick to bloviating about politics and leave the physics to actual physicists.
As for complaints of Ryan's speech being light on policy, it's a convention speech, which never have anything to do with policy. When was the last time a politician ever actually laid out policy in a convention speech? I don't think I've ever seen one that did.
"gravitas" has nothing to do with gravity
Except that "gravitas" is the latin word meaning gravity or weight, the Romans having a pre-newtonian worldview wouldn't have understood that there could be a difference between those two things.
Stick to bloviating about physics, and leave the linguistic and historical scholarship...
Note to Will Wilkerson: "gravitas" has nothing to do with gravity
It has nothing to do with Will Wilkinson, either.
Well, snark all you want but I actually learned something, to wit: There is actually somebody named "Elspeth" outside of a Flashman novel.
She is awful, go check out some of the stuff she has written.
Hey, this milk has gone bad; give it a try.
Her literary namesake was a smokin' hot blonde social climber without any brains to speak of.
So, is she two out of three? Or does she get all three?
2.5, she's blonde but not smokin' hot by any means.
Only non-thumbnail pic I could find.
http://a0.twimg.com/profile_im.....n_060s.jpg
Wasn't she one of those New Republic news maker-uppers?
http://archives.jrn.columbia.e.....isian.html
Can I just say that Andrew Sullivan is a dumb ass? I know, why mention the obvious? It wasn't that long ago that conservatives were defending this d-bag as "part of the conversation." Yes, he's part of the conversation, if you're a fucking idiot.
"The disciple of Ayn Rand publicly says that society should be judged by the way it treats its weakest and neediest."
Uh, boy genius, this means he is NOT a "disciple" of Ayn Rand. W.T.F.
Irony, how does it work?
Irony, how does it work?
Like RAY-EEE-ANE on your wedding day.
"Liberal Pundits Who Gloss Over Sitting Democratic President's 3-Year Murderous Middle East Rampage, Assault on Civil Liberties and Comic Mismanagement of Everything Else, Nitpick Republican VP Nominee Convention Speech."
News at 11.
From Weigel's whoppers:
I'd love to know exactly how it's hard to argue that the stimulus was exactly as Ryan described it. Particularly when your stinger is that his office was able to arm-twist a few bucks for the home district. That's the very definition of patronage. Down here in south Florida we got a butterfly garden for the park.
Pretending that the stimulus was not "political patronage, corporate welfare and cronyism" is extraordinarily hard, not the other way around.
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I simply cannot handle the cognitive dissonance that is now welling up in my mind. He was touted by the other speakers as a man who tackles the tough issues. But tonight he demagogued them. Maybe that makes for good politics, but it's disappointing on every other level.
"The stimulus was a case of political patronage, corporate welfare, and cronyism at their worst." That's http://www.footballcleatstrade.org/ extraordinarily hard to argue, and Ryan's office lobbied effectively for some stimulus grants that went to his district.
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