Morality in Media Says the New Republican Party Platform Encourages Prosecution of "Obscene" Adult Pornography
Last month, The Daily Caller reported some whispers from former Department of Justice official and current president of Morality in Media Patrick Trueman, who said that a Mitt Romney presidency would be one that "vigorously" enforced obscenity laws and would prosecute purveyors of "obscene" adult pornography.
Now, according to a Morality in Media press release, the 2012 Republican Party platform — a portion of the draft of which was recently leaked —has been changed to reflect a new commitment to fighting not just child pornography, but also technically illegal adult pornography. Morality in Media is, unsurprisingly, a big fan of this kind of crackdown.
Their press release claims:
"Distribution of obscene or hardcore pornography on the Internet is a violation of current federal law," explained Trueman. "Yet, most children in America have free access to obscene pornography as soon as they learn how to use a computer. The average age of first exposure to obscene Internet pornography is now eleven," Trueman said.
The new language replaces previous platform wording, which only opposed child pornography. It will now read, "Current laws on all forms of pornography and obscenity need to be vigorously enforced." Trueman noted that current federal obscenity laws not only prohibit distribution of hardcore pornography on the Internet but also on hotel/motel TV, on cable/satellite TV, and in retail shops.
"We are most grateful to Tony Perkins, President of the Family Research Council who led the effort to get the tough new language into the platform," said Trueman. "Without enforcement of federal obscenity laws, pornographers have had a green light to target our children and families," he added.
The rest of it is a tearjerker saga about the untreated porn "pandemic" in America. No mention is made of how the GOP, or Morality in Media, or the Family Research Council intends to solve this tragedy. The logical assumption is that they will do so either by a torrent of federal crackdowns, or some sort of actual policing of the Internet, in the spirit of the eventually struck-down 1996 Communications Decency Act. Considering their website's list of "past accomplishments" and the above wording from Trueman, the group is clearly, blatantly pro-censorship, so they're probably keen on both solutions to this moral panic.
If true, this is bad news for any small government fans who were hoping to bite the bullet, choke back the bile, and vote Republican, in the endearingly naive hope that the GOP will be the small government fans that they pretend to be on occasion.
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A Lucy thread and a porn thread, all in one thread, at the same time???
Two, if you're lucky. We call that the Jackpot.
What did I miss?
I was 14 when my brother came home from college for winter break with a hard drive full of delicious, delicious smut. I still remember how it felt when my head exploded in delight.
Shit. I had to find it on my own at that age on BBS's. Back when all the teenage girls in the chat rooms were really creepy old men. Thank the good Lord for the WWW.
Note: not a real link. Apparently if you type dubdubdubdot, the squirrels think its a link.
It must have thought you wanted people to go to www . ampersandampersandampersand . stylizedquote
In my day, you young whippersnappers, we had to look at porn in hard (arf) copy. When I first saw it, my age was still in one digit. I survived.
ah, the days when airbrushed 20-somethings longed for walks in the park, picnics by the shore, and world peace. Nowadays, the only point behind something like Playboy really is the articles.
No, you didn't. Your mind was so twisted by such exposure that you now are so perverted that you believe people should have the right to be left alone to live their lives in the manner in which they choose.
I'm part of that inbetween generation, who's first exposure was via VHS. Print was harder to securely hoard, and 320x240 VGA graphics put a crimp in spanking to anything from the internet (dialup terminal access through U-MD - lynx - dos image viewer).
Ok, now, someone share a story about spanking it to ASCII porn downloaded over CompuServe in the mid 80s....
I was sneaking my uncle's Playboy's in 4th grade, which explains my penchant for working in pajamas and smoking jackets.
Oh, what a terrible time you lived in, where Playboy was considered porn.
Yeah, penthouse was a revelation, the clams weren't all airbrushed over.
Nah, it was pretty tame. I don't think they were even showing bush yet. But, oh yeah, BOOBIES.
When I first saw it, my age was still in one digit.
Same here. Would have been, roughly, 1970. Some kind of low-budget "Big Bosoms" kind of a deal. None of your swanky "Playboy" for us.
I will freely admit to having been permanently warped by the experience.
I will freely admit to having been permanently warped by the experience.
Still heterosexual and desiring women? They were RIGHT!
I was fourteen, my brother in law gave me his Penthouse collection. 1982. Sweet, hairy bottoms.
I was 14 when my brother came home from college for winter break with a hard drive full of delicious, delicious smut. I still remember how it felt when my head exploded in delight.
Jesus these kids are wet behind the ears. When I was first exposed to porn, it didn't come on a hard drive.
Unless you were intrigued by ASCII Art printed from a daisywheel printer.
Ok, now, someone share a story about spanking it to ASCII porn downloaded over CompuServe in the mid 80s....
Unless you were intrigued by ASCII Art printed from a daisywheel printer.
So close, Paul, so close...
I was 11, and I stole Playboy specials (Lingere, Wet and Wild, etc - the ones without articles, duh) from the bookstore. Ergo, free internet porn would've saved me from a life of crime. Suck on that, morality police.
I still remember how it felt when my head exploded in delight.
Which head?
Why would anyone ask Warty a question like that?
The rest of it is a tearjerker saga about the untreated porn "pandemic" in America.
They're jerking something other than tears when they think about controlling what all those immoral people do.
You think I used that word by accident? Scoff.
Oh no, I respect you more than that.
Lucy is nothing if not relentlessly aware of her audience.
now, wait a minute. Just two days ago we were hearing how the strip joints in Tampa were gearing up because Repubs spend far more than Dems. What the hell?
Baptists, meet Pornleggers. Pornleggers, Baptists.
Oh, you've already met?
Now there's some bullshit. If the Dems were here, I doubt there'd be an appreciable difference in strip club attendance. And the Sarah Palin stripper would still be here.
I actually hope they do if Romney gets elected. It'd be entertaining to see another Supreme Court obscenity decision.
What is it when both parties seem to focus as much on bullshit social issues rather than a runaway government and economic problems? What's the word I'm looking for?
Monday?
SOP.
Fucking retarded?
(Yes, I realize that is two words, but they are so fucking retarded that one word couldnt describe it -- not with english anyway)
Fucktarded?
And now with extra words just for the stupid third-party spam filter.
Squirrel!?!?!?!?!
The average voter has the attention span of a juvenille water spaniel. The whole point of electioneering -- squirrel! -- is to distract the -- squirrel! -- voters away from -- squirrel! -- tough to solve problems.
You are Jack's complete lack of surprise?
Definitely not surprising. Perhaps historians will look back and this time and refer to it as the Egad Era.
You are Jack's inflamed bile duct.
I love these issues that no one is really going to do anything about. We'll have porn, abortions, and even wars regardless of which of the only two possible parties in the entire universe people vote for.
Still, though, people really do go to prison for this, and that is a bad thing, so it's worth talking about.
Sure, it just doesn't matter much which guy is allowing the prosecutions.
Worse, it is a way to control the internet. Once they get the ability to block all of the porn sites, they won't stop there.
Yes, they will, because that's so much of the Internet that all of the rest is a statistical anomaly.
If they block all the porn sites, what the point of maintaining the Internet?
Umm... Amazon.com?
Umm... Amazon.com?
They sell porn, right?
Pay no attention to that man behind the curtain!
Related to that.
einhandsegeln
Rome.
...a Mitt Romney presidency would be one that "vigorously" enforced obscenity laws and would prosecute purveyors of "obscene" adult pornography.
Are you kidding me? Obscene adult pornography is the best kind of pornography!
and if it's not "obscene", how is it porn anyway? Unless there is a more muted version these killjoys are okay with.
My inner porn director would like to accept that challenge.
Couple prays together to be blessed with child. Gold bands prominently displayed. They stand up. He disrobes her without gazing upon her woman flesh. She does the same for him. Through the power of Christian prayer, and certainly without touching oneself or being touched, he is blessed with an erection. She lies down on the bed. He atop her. Two minutes of grunting and no words exchanged as their genitals mingle but otherwise no touching. Then she whimpers, and he sighs. They get up, clean themselves, and reapply their vestments. They walk hand and hand to the fire place and throw in a box of condoms as a sacrifice. The Archangel Gabriel appears and announces that in nine months a son will arrive to the world through her womb.
They exchange a brief hug and part.
That's hot
They should do it through a hole in a sheet.
One suggestion...Gabriel joins them in a 3 way (no man on man stuff though because that would be wrong)?
Angels are genderless, so it's all good when it comes to 3ways.
Plus, in a threeway you get some leeway.
John 3:69
http://graphics8.nytimes.com/i.....vr.650.jpg
I'd do that for the FC (Fallen Catholic) rated version. Would love to cast her from that year, she was still hawt.
It really on the prurient interest standard. Arty nudity and fucking isn't designed to appeal to a purient interest, and is therefore not considered obscene.
The phraseology was very carefully chosen by the flack. All he said was "We will enforce laws that we think aren't being enforced enough on things that are already illegal." Saber-rattling stroke material for the so-con pruneasses.
^^THIS^^
It is funny, the SOCONS all think the GOP takes them for granted and sticks it to them every chance they get because of the evil Libertarian cabal. The Libertarians think the same thing only in reverse.
They can't both be true?
Wait a minute..? You mean the GOP Establishment plays both ends off against each other!? Next you will tell me that their only interest is in maintaining a vise grip on money and power!
The republican party is driven by crony capitalism, period. The establishment lies to both its religious wing and libertarian wing on a continuing basis.
I do not know why anyone who believes in small government would ever vote for either R or D. No party wants smaller government, they simply want the levers of power.
C'mon, Charlie Brown. Kick this football.
Yup.
Except the party platform means fuck-all.
How's that life amendment that's been in the platform for forty years doing?
"How's that life amendment that's been in the platform for forty years doing?"
Stop bringing up America's Forty-Years-War Against Womyn.
It's been bringing in votes and money for 40 years. I'd say it's working just fine for the Republicans.
There's that still of Gillespie channeling Shatner again.
Khaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaandoms!
I salute the Reason TV staffer who chose that.
I thought he was doing Brando; "Stella!"
Could someone explain that poster?
What does a priest chasing children have to do with porn? Don't they want the kids to run? Are they afraid that the kids might run out into traffic?
I can't explain it, but I can't stop laughing every time I look at it.
Me too.
I keep hearing Scooby-Doo sound effects when I look at it. "Ruh Roh!" *scampering noises*
"It Old Man Weatherby, who runs the haunted pornography store, all along!"
Victory goes to SF! Sirrah, the Interwebs are thine.
Ok, stop me if you've heard this one before...
A A Catholic priest, an Orthodox priest, a Lutheran priest, and a Rabbi walk into a bar. They then form a sanctimonious lobby group dedicated to destroying the freedom of consenting adults to enjoy themselves.
Why aren't you guys laughing?
Lutherans don't have priests.
You're right.
They have a kind of figure that serves a similar role as a priest- some fuckstick standing up and talking at you about Jesus this Moses that Abraham hit me with a wiffle ball bat.
And it's hard to find Rabbis who think it's bad for adults to enjoy themselves (unless among the ultra-orthodox, and they usually only encourage self-censorship.
But it's cute nonetheless. You could have added 'a radical feminist'.
Lutherans and Presbyterians are typically more libertarian and laid back on social stuff.
Religious types: what's the difference between a father and a reverend? I can't keep all the different kinds of preacher straight.
And priest, for that matter.
Fathers are priests and thus Catholic. Reverend is a title that can apply to any Christian faith. So thus all fathers are reverends but not all reverends are fathers.
So Protestants dropped the "father" name, then? I wonder why. Was it just because they hated the Pope?
I think Pope is the short form of Italian "Grand old Man" or something.
It comes from "papa".
Which is roughly translated "grand old man". It is a term of respect for old men that applies to more than just your biological father.
The pope's title is Pontifex Maximus - which means highest preist. It's also a position that predates the Roman Republic and was established back when Rome had kings.
I thought the Pontifex Maximus was a Repulican creation - so as to outrank the Rex Sacorum, the old kingly chief priest?
But I am too lazy to look it up.
Nope... according to Wikipedia, which we all know is never wrong about anything, the office was created during King Numa Pompillius' reign.
High Anglicans use Father, but then, I suppose technically they're not, at least according to them, protestants.
At the high school I went to in Australia we had an hour of compulsary religious instruction every week. I went with my closest friends to the Anglican* class which was taught by Father Latta. From him I learned the Apostles creed, since forgotten, and that the Church of England is the true Catholic Church by true honest to god apostolic succession. Oh, and that two-thirds of the brides in the marriages he performed were already preggo (I've forgotten how that one came up, but it did**).
*since I was one of possibly three Quakers at the school no one came to take care of our spiritual needs.
**much to the titillation of the audience of roughly 13-17 year-olds at a boys school.
Don't forget vicars, friars and curates, ministers, lay clergy, and whatnot?
Vicars are strictly an English thing, right? And they're always disgraced for sexual shenanigans.
IANM, rector, vicar and curate are titles for priests in both the Church of England and the Church of Rome.
The difference between them has something to do with how they are appointed and how big a flock they tend.
Again, IIANM in a large congregation their may be a vicar who has one or more curates who are junior to him.
I'm not sure where the rector falls in all this.
Also, I believe that Episcopalians use the word priest but no the title Father. Episcoplainas are welcome to correct me if I'm wrong. 🙂
They're also welcome to correct my spelling. 🙂
IT'S The Bishop!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OyhMYVU31ng
I think fathers tend to wear costumes, like the Catholic and Orthodox faiths. Revs often look like insurance salesmen.
The Reverend is a style most often used as a prefix to the names of Christian clergy and ministers. There are sometimes differences in the way the style is used in different countries and church traditions. The Reverend is correctly called a style but is often and in some dictionaries called a title, form of address or title of respect.[1][2] The style is also sometimes used by leaders in non-Christian religions such as Judaism and Buddhism.[citation needed]
The term is an anglicisation of the Latin reverendus, the style originally used in Latin documents by the Roman Catholic Church. It is the gerundive of the verb revereri (to respect) which may be taken as a gerundive or a passive periphrastic, therefore meaning [one who is] to be respected/must be respected. The Reverend is therefore equivalent to The Hono(u)rable or The Venerable.[citation needed]
It is paired with a modifier or noun for some offices in some religious traditions: e.g., Roman Catholic bishops are usually styled The Most Reverend (reverendissimus); Anglican bishops are styled The Right Reverend; some Reformed churches have used The Reverend Mister as a style for their clergy.
Sez Wikipedia.
Duck, I says.
No, uh, it's pronounced Duke.
Now, a president...well, I mean...why not shoot a president.
Deserves got nothing to do with it.
Martin Luther something something priesthood of all believers something something
That what an anti-semite like Luther would say. Something something Hitler.
Those kids are going to get to that porn first unless that Republican can stop them.
I am sure they will be stopping the supply of internet porn real soon. Other than prosecute the odd pervert, what the hell do these people want?
What better ensures a perpetual voting base than a war that can never be won?
For that reason I have a hard time giving a shit one way or another. If the point is not to fight the culture war, then don't fight the culture war. Ignore them and get your porn from Eastern Europe like everyone else does.
Someone please Czech on this claim of John's, would you?
And hurry, I'd like you Russian to see if he is right.
Eugenia Diordiychuk, dude.
what the hell do these people want?
Jobs at a nonprofit where they get paid to "research" porn all day is my guess.
"Yet, most children in America have free access to obscene pornography as soon as they learn how to use a computer."
Anyone who starts their arguments with how all of America needs to be Disneyfied becuae people are too stupid/lazy to monitor their rugrats should be shot in the head. No, I do not think that is overkill.
Also, I remeber seeing a special on pornography where they found the highest percentage of people ordering porn movies to be in Salt Lake City.
And that is not even true. It assumes parents make no effort to monitor their children' internet usage or there are no blocking software out there, both of which are completely false.
The boy, who is 12, found out about hardcore pr0n a couple months ago, via a classmate. He then told another neighborhood kid who goes to his school about said website. He then proceeded to view it on the family's Kindle Fire and then handed it to his little sister, who found his viewing material. Did I mention this is a very religious family?
Hilarity ensues, and he promptly rats out the boy, who then gets hammered over it by the wife-unit. Needless to say, his unfettered Internet surfing days are very over.
his unfettered Internet surfing days are very over.
For 4 years at least, till he gets a job, buys his own kindle, and connects to one of the unsecured routers in your neighborhood.
I doubt it will even take that long.
I should have said "4 yrs tops", not "at least." Coffee not working today...
Back when my kids were tweens, I asked my friend if he had to choose between two bad outcomes if he would rather his kids grew up violent or promiscuous. He hemmed and hawed and finally said "promiscuous". I told him to leave the teen-age slasher flicks on the shelf and rent some porn for his kids. It's far closer to reality.
If they could tone down the anal fisting, I might get on board.
True love is when no matter how gaping the holes get you, still think your the luckiest guy on the planet for having her.
True love is when no matter how gaping the holes get, you, still think you're the luckiest guy on the planet for having her.
I want that sign. Someone bring it to me and install it in my garage.
It is pretty fucking awesome.
garage? Why not in front of your house?
The side of your car, zip car style.
Fung shooey. It fits in well with the sort of novelty decorations I keep in my garage and would be visible to brighten the day of passers by when the door is open, but it is too tacky to be hung on the front elevation or displayed in my elegantly conservative main living spaces.
"If true, this is bad news for any small government fans who were hoping to bite the bullet, choke back the bile, and vote Republican, in the endearingly naive hope that the GOP will be the small government fans that they pretend to be on occasion."
I shall be taken for granted no longer. Screw those guys. I'll be voting for Gary Johnson.
Apropos of porn panics....In college, I had a MEESE IS A PIG t-shirt, which I proudly wore around campus.
Fast forward to adult life and I'm, working for Heritage, as is Ed Meese. Turns out he's a very nice guy, like a grandpa, but I still had to marvel at the universe's black and twisted sense of humor.
I just don't get the obsession with porn. Turn the damn computer and TV off if it is that bad. You won't regret it.
These parents who give their 12 year old boys laptops...what did they think was going to happen?
Their little snowflakes never had those thoughts until they were exposed to evil porn.
Honestly. Do these people really not know what goes on in the mind of 12 year old boys?
Honestly. Do these people really not know what goes on in the mind of 12 year old boys?
Part of growing up is forgetting/rewriting your own childhood to comply with the standards and restrictions you want to impose upon your own children.
Someone, somewhere, is having fun.
You're right, this blog did need more Mencken.
Everything needs more Mencken.
It's amazing how often his quotes are the absolute correct response.
"Every decent man is ashamed of the government he lives under."
The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule. ? H.L. Mencken
"Every normal man must be tempted, at times, to spit on his hands, hoist the black flag, and begin slitting throats."
I bet Matt Welch has purchased plenty of porn DVDs in his adult life.
OT, but new breakthrough in higher education.
UC is offering classes and workshops where the future of food, including the 'dangers of GM crops' is addressed through the medium of dance.
http://www.sfgate.com/entertai.....816726.php
No, Onion had nothing to do with it.
WTF?
But there is no higher education bubble.
FOOL! The only solution to the current crisis is interpretive dance!
Is it really that hard to install software that would block your kids' access to porn?
Nope. And I hear no end to the bellyaching form the boy, which in it's zealousness, blocks lots of non-porn.
So he hasn't figured out yet that you just installed it as an intelligence test for him?
He's crafty, so I don't think it will take him too long to find a way around it.
I'll never forget my pride when he announced that he figured out the PIN on the cable box, which locked out all the fun channels.
He told you? Jesus. There's no hope for your boy.
Dude, he was so proud that he figured it out. It was like he hit his first home run or something.
I still remember how much fun we had bypassing the proxy servers in high school so we could look at the filthiest porn the late 90s could produce. I hope your boy soon learns the joy of breaking the rules and shutting up about it.
My friend has a 14 year old who still hasn't figured out how to use private browsing mode and has been caught by both his father's siblings in this manner. Dad is a computer programmer. He is so disappointed.
Dad is a computer programmer. He is so disappointed.
To be fair, I don't think those skills are hereditary.
No mention is made of how the GOP, or Morality in Media, or the Family Research Council intends to solve this tragedy.
There is no human weakness not curable by hard time.
Come on, get with the program.
Nothing builds character quite like regular beatings and acts of sodomy.
Toss in a little rum and you've got the British Navy's secret to success!
Back in the day when they were all sodomites, this would have never happened. Now, a mere 6% of them are, and they are like puff balls that don't even scare Iranians.
You can't have a porn thread without Kathryn Jean Lopez of National Review. This piece says "anonymous" but it was her all of the way. If it wasn't her, she put the author up to writing it. Every couple of years the NR staff goes on vacation and leaves Lopez without any adult supervision allowing her to on a anti-porn bender.
This has to be read to be believed.
http://www.nationalreview.com/...../anonymous
A-plus-plus-plus.
I think this may be my favorite piece of internet writing ever.
You're right. It's really incredible.
Excellent find. Also:
Does not compute.
Oh, yeah, sure. I bet she was totally all over him for sex every day. If it wasn't for you damn meddling pornographers, he would have never left her for some bimbo.
Maybe she should stop dating guys with a porn addiction.
Dude, there is no way that's real.
Because you know, the sex never leeched out of marriages prior to the existence of internet porn.
I believe this is the part where I summon Nelson Muntz to exclaim: "Ha Ha".
Good for you, unknown abandoner of this writer. Good for you.
I hatelove to be the bearer of bad news, but oral sex is not only normal, it's to be expected.
Wow...just, wow.
Amazing. Though she didn't say anything about her role in her husband's lack of interest in her, might I suggest that she, a) gained a bunch of weight in the course of having 5 children in a short span of time, and b) thinks that being a mother is The Most Important Job In the Universe, and correspondingly stopped paying attention to her husband. And it probably goes without saying, she doesn't give BJs.
Oh, no, she totally gives blowjobs all the time. It's just that porn made him start rejecting her advances. Can't you read?
It's a dirty lie. No man turns down a good blowjob.
No man turns down a good blowjob.
I mean, I'm sure there are blowjobs I turn down--like if she had a double row of shark teeth or she was a dude or a Sasquatch--but in general they are an unqualified good.
"How much teeth do you like?"
she was a dude or a Sasquatch
*confused Brock stare*
There are female Sasquatches. I don't not want a blowjob from one.
don't not
In typo veritas.
Well, their mouths are... deeper.
Nobody said she was good. And how good could it be, what with her wrinkling her nose in disgust the whole time?
and "what, you like this? wtf is wrong slurp with you."
Dude, she's a fat chick. Of course she's good.
Why, that explains everything. That gave me a good belly laugh, so I am slightly less pissed.
Mulatto.
That is actually the most flattering picture I have ever seen of Lopez.
I don't cream at the thought of giving a blowjob, but because I love my husband I give them. And as any good cocksucker will tell you, the secret to getting it over with is to be as sexy as you possibly can. Doing a middling-to-shitty job only prolongs the situation.
Here is what I don't get about most women Christina. As a guy, short of involving another guy, there are very few things I wouldn't do if it got a woman off. If her thing was me dressing up in a bear suit, I would do it just because she liked it. Not all of the time but sometimes just because I want to make her happy. If you are married or in a relationship, what the hell difference does it make?
I understand there are some things that are dangerous or unhealthy or involve other people and risk damaging the relationship. But beyond those limits, I just don't get why women deprive their husbands and boy friends because "I don't like doing that". So what? Why can't you do it because it makes your partner happy?
Love has nothing to do with it. Married women think they have a monopoly on their husbands' sex lives so they restrict supply and raise the price. Then they get bent out of shape when their husbands find substitutes for sex with them.
Then women are really evil Christina and really get what they deserve when their husband's leave them.
Oh John, you old romantic! Are you really so naive as to think that women don't use sex as a tool? It's our ultimate method of control. The only real power we've historically held. And you think women would relinquish that control just because they are married? Are you stupid? If anything, that's when they crank it up. They have a flippin' monopoly!
Men hear from all their friends that sex dries up after marriage, but they convince themselves that this time they've found a woman who is different. A Top Woman, if you will. So men vow to "forsake all others." They have ceremonies in which they grant legal monopoly over their junk to their wives. And you think women don't take that monopoly status and exploit it for all its worth?
Obviously divorce exists. Porn exists. Skanky women who love dating married men exist. Prostitutes exist. So there are substitutes available to the man who can't get enough lovin' at home.
The trick for the the woman who actually loves her husband is to raise the price of sex just enough so that you are charging all that the market will bear, but not incentivizing your husband to find substitutes that harm your marriage.
I remember that piece. "My husband left me because of his porn addiction!" I can just imagine that bint wanting to discuss why he didn't get it up every time he saw her naked after 12 years and 3 kids the way he used to when they were in high school. I'd move out, too.
It doesn't even have to be that she's less attractive.
It could just as easily be that she shut him out for long periods of time, and then after he restructured his life around that by building a porn collection and acquiring a mistress, then she panicked and starting making advances - and can't understand how that didn't work.
I think you may have found the answer, or at least very close to it.
That, in all likelyhood, is right on the money.
I'm just going to throw this out there. I'm pretty sure I know the two or three causes of guys staying single in our generation. 1) Laws not only no longer favor their interest but are actively hostile to them, 2) on average, just in general, many exceptions and other qualifying considerations before I continue, the current generation of women are not all that interesting to be around.
Does not compute.
Excellent find. Also:
Does not compute.
(And these are extra words for the spam filter.)
Excellent find. Also:
Does not compute.
(I had to edit the quote a bit to get past the spam filter. Seriously, Reason? Too many naughty words?)
Dear lord, I can't get my comment past the spam filter. Seriously, Reason? Too many naughty words?
I was just trying to point out that one "problem" caused by porn is "excessive masturbation." I suspect the American Family Council or whoever has a different definition of that term than I do.
ahem: according to the article, one problem...
I think we can all agree that Chucky from Sons of Anarchy was on the high side of normal.
Lopez is neither married nor does she have any kids. I can't imagine why. [eyeroll] She regularly laments these facts.
Overweight Catholic anti-porn crusader seeks absolutely perfect man that doesn't exist for immediate marriage and procreation.
Just give it up and marry Jesus. Most nuns get wedding rings and whipples are really quite slimming.
Nice, Sug, nice. Alternately: repressed you-know-what.
Wimples, Sug, not Whipples (unless there's a to-squeezing fetish of which I'm unaware)
Thank you very fucking much John. I was in a very pleasant mood until I clicked that link. True you did say it had to be read to be believed, but that does not give away just how toxic that shit is. I am truly pissed.
I know it was pointless but I had to leave a comment. I did notice there were 0 comments there...my guess is that she had a deluge of comments along the lines of the one I left and deleted them all.
yep, I went and checked, mine has been deleted now too.
Google it. There are a bunch of indignant follow up posts on The Corner from Kathryn Jean Lopez about the huge amount of hate mail they got over this. This article was too much for even the National Review readership.
They have never to my knowledge published anything anti-porn since.
two authorities on the neurochemistry of addiction, Harvey Milkman and Stanley Sunderwirth, claim it is the ability of this drug to influence all three pleasure systems in the brain ? arousal, satiation, and fantasy ? that makes it "the pi?ce de r?sistance among the addictions."
So now I have to ask... WTF is wrong w/ anyone not enjoying the stuff? It's free, ubiquitous, and apparently the greatest pleasure (per that NR article) ever!
It does not cause STDs. I have no data but I bet it prevents spread of infectious diseases better than a needle exchange.
I would imagine it has lowered the demand for prostitution. The SOCONs are full on retarded on this issue. Even if they wanted to stop it they couldn't. Saudi Arabia and China can't control the internet, what chance do these clowns thing they have?
See "Mencken" above.
I think they are claiming that the production of porn spreads (ahem) STD's. They really loves them some reformed (or, better, "reformed") sinners as it confirms their narrative.
To leave off abusing this woman for what we deduce to be her personal failings for a moment, I have never understood how this is an argument against porn even if everything she says is true.
Let's say that before she got divorced I sat down with her husband and had a few beers. And while we're hanging out, I decide to say the following things to him:
1. "Hey man, did I ever mention that masturbation is great? You should totally masturbate more."
2. "You know, dude, I can't imagine what you see in that wife of yours. Skanky bleached-blonde chicks with big tits are totally where it's at. Why don't you find yourself one of those?
3. "You know what? You shouldn't engage in courtship. You should just hit it and quit it. So when you go out to find yourself one of those dye job skanks we just talked about, keep that in mind."
So I say all those things and her husband believes me. What's her recourse in the criminal law? Nothing. She has no recourse at all.
So how can she have greater recourse against a picture of tits than she can have against my direct verbal arguments, even if the communications outcome of the two is identical?
I am thinking that woman would actually be fine with suing you over that. And she certainly would be fine with suing the beautiful young secretary her husband likes to gaze at and who is nice and lends a sympathetic ear to the poor guy's complaints.
Yeah, this woman is that self absorbed and awful. It is the world's job to ensure that she is the only option available to her husband.
Because porn producers are easy, unsympathetic targets and it's really hard to prove ex-post-facto what was said in a private conversation.
Need pics of the author to determine whether her story has any merit.
Pure Speculation Warning: I'm going to take a shot in the dark and guess that she is one of those women who believes you are only supposed to enjoy your penis when she allows you to. Otherwise, no happysexyfuntime for you.
Consider a narcotic so insidious that it evades serious scientific study and legislative action for decades, thriving instead under the ever-expanding banner of the First Amendment.
LOLtastic. "Evades scientific study" means that no credible scientific studies support her beliefs.
Yeah, that pesky FA; time for that shit to go.
What's the word I'm looking for?
scam?
Since 1993, the rate of forcible rape is down 40% or so.
I wonder if this is a feature or a bug to the anti-porn people.
Bug, of course. Porn can't lead to babies, but legitimate rape can!
Hey now! The body has ways of shutting that process down.
So he hasn't figured out yet that you just installed it as an intelligence test for him?
Really. Unless it blocks teh Googul (in which case, why not just buy him an abacus?), I don't see it being a long-term impediment.
Since 1993, the rate of forcible rape is down 40% or so.
It's a subtler, more patriarchal style of rape. It's more mesmerizing than arm-twisting.
But just knowing you're looking and thinking is kinda no different than rape.
They only count legitimate rapes now.
So only "rape-rape", per Whoopi Goldberg?
I think my first exposure to porn (in magazine form) was at age 10 or 11. Seems about right.
Porn is everywhere, thank goodness kids can't get access to weed...
Holy shit, nice sign.
You have a fast zombie chasing two small children. The little girl is running her ass off, and the little boy, who is in the lead, is *skipping* gleefully along because, like in the old joke about the grizzly bear, I don't have to be able to outrun the bear, I just have to be able to outrun YOU.
The earliest porn I can remember is a Hustler issue featuring a "Wife-Tasting Event." I would have been 8 or 9.
I didn't see a film until I was 12 or so, some porno my dad left in the VCR at his girlfriend's. I watched it three times with the sound off, went to school the next day and regaled my friends with a full accounting of the plot and sex acts.
You were able to follow an intricate porno plot with no sound?
"They opened the door and it was a pizza guy with his dick hanging out of his pants."
Don't be fatuous sugarfree.
"And it was deep dish, if you know what I mean."
Here's the pizza, and here's the pepperoni!
He did have to watch it three times.
I was sixteen and stayed with my bro for a month that summer. He was stationed in Charleston. He took me along with his fellow sailors to a bar in the boondocks close by Goose Creek. I was having a great time being picked on, but then they did something amazing. A pretty little thing came along asking if anyone wanted to buy a bottle. Had no idea what she meant. The sailors laughed it up, said, 'he will', and they paid for 'the bottle.' Next thing I knew I was lead out back to a shack (interior was pretty cool though) and given a blowjob. My first, and cough cough only whore.
"I'll never forget that summer when my brother and his pals helped me get herpes. Good times."
An ancient and honorable naval tradition.
That is human trafficking you sicko. Don't you know that poor girl was probably shipped by force from her home town down to Charleston to be abused by sailors?
So they're inserting something into their platform?
But, by God, not filming it!!
I was fourteen, my brother in law gave me his Penthouse collection. 1982. Sweet, hairy bottoms.
God what a horrible age 12 through about 16 is for a guy. You are totally riven with hormones and can think of nothing but sex. But unless you are really lucky, like win the lottery lucky older girls won't have you and few things are more evil than girls your age. Chances are you are at least a couple of years away from actually scoring and that is if you are normal and not some geek. Then it is senior year or college at the least.
Good God, let the poor little bastards have some porn. They need it more than I do.
Yup, fourteen was good age to get a collection.
John for the win.
Any organization with the words morality, moral, or decency in it's title is a scourge to liberty.
Hey, since Family Research Council is all anti-porn and anti-FA, why don't you guys boycott their funding sources, such as Chic-fil-A?
I was boycotting Chick-Fil-A already because their chicken sucks.
What if you're already not eating there because of the whole "closed on Sundays" thing?
I take due notice that the platform calls for enforcement of current laws, not for the passage of new ones. Morality in Media is trumpeting a "victory" that may be very hollow indeed.