Brady Campaign's Response to Aurora Murders: Guns Bad
Here is the initial reaction to this morning's shootings at a Colorado movie theater from the Brady Campaign to Prevent Gun Violence:
Our sympathies go out to the victims and families in Aurora, CO.
This is yet another horrific reminder that guns enable mass killings.
Although that sounds like an argument for a comprehensive ban on firearms, the Brady Campaign instead recommends that you respond to the murders in Aurora by signing a petition:
The horrendous shooting in Aurora, CO is yet another tragic reminder that we have a national problem of easy availability of guns in this country.
Sign our petition to demand Congress address this problem:
I believe that dangerous people should not have guns and call on all candidates to address the issue of gun violence in America
I will not vote for, or support, any candidate for elected office who will not sign the following "Statement Of Principle Against Arming Dangerous People":
I believe that these people should not be able to buy, own, or carry a gun anywhere in our nation:
• Convicted felons
• Convicted domestic abusers
• Terrorists
• People found to be dangerously mentally ill
Federal law already prohibits gun possession by felons, people convicted of misdemeanors involving domestic violence, and people "committed to a mental institution" or "adjudicated as a mental defective." I gather that the Brady Campaign wants to expand the last category to include people deemed "dangerous," though not dangerous enough to be committed, by a mental health professional. And if "terrorists" are not already covered by the "felon" category, that must mean they have not attempted or committed any crimes yet but nevertheless lose their Second Amendment rights based on a hunch, presumably extrapolated from their opinions or affiliations, that they might commit crimes in the future. Leaving aside the point that people bent on committing mass murder probably don't worry much about violating gun laws, I see problems with both of these proposals, since they are based on unreliable predictions of future behavior rather than a demonstrated propensity for violence.
In any event, there is no evidence that the man arrested for the Aurora shootings, James Holmes, falls into any of these categories. The Wall Street Journal reports that Holmes "has no criminal record and doesn't appear to have links to extremist or terrorist group." As is often the case with gun controllers, the Brady Campaign's response to this crime is a non sequitur.
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Why don't they just pass a law making it illegal to shoot people in a movie theater?
Why don't they just pass a law making it illegal to shoot people in a movie theater?
An enforcement nightmare. Best to just get rid of all the precursors to such a crime. You know, like guns, bullets, free will...
They did. The shooting took place in a "gun free zone."
Something I'm sure the shooter was not aware of, otherwise he would have never murdered anyone with a gun there. Because, we all know, people willing to commit mass murder are always scrupulously diligent in obeying all other laws...
This can't be good for Loder and Suderman's niche when everyone gets to write something about Batman today.
Fuck the Brady bunch. They've always been fucking worthless on the gun issue.
Fuck the Brady bunch.
Eve Plum, maybe. The rest of them can burn in hell.
I'd have done FloHo back in the day.
I'd have done FloHo back in the day.
Her smile kind of creeped my out as a kid but I probably wouldn't have kicked her out of bed for eating crackers.
You named yours crackers? I named mine Luthor.
Is that because it's bald and evil?
You betcha!
Mine just tastes like a saltine.
My cousin broke his neck trying to taste his own dick.
How long did it take you to heal from that?
Is this the same cousin Walter who jerked off in public once?
What on earth is wrong with Maureen McCormick???
They've always been fucking worthless on the gun issue.
That's a feature, not a bug.
I believe that these people should not be able to buy, own, or carry a gun anywhere in our nation...
I believe that these people should wait to see if the murderer falls into one of those categories before pushing this opportunist garbage.
He didn't fall into any of these categories. According to the local ABC affiliate, his only run in with the law was a traffic ticket in 2011.
Link please.
In any event, there is no evidence that the man arrested for the Aurora shootings, James Holmes, falls into any of these categories.
Apparently, the only record this guy had was a traffic ticket in 2011.
Thank you.
Thank goodness that it was only a homemade bomb, not a gun, that was used to murder Israeli tourists last week. That makes it much better.
Because only only guns kill people.
Because only only guns kill people.
All three of those people survived.
"Homicide Division Capt. Billy Hayes ?whose detectives took over the case Thursday? said it was too soon to know if the crimes could be linked to the series of gory stabbing deaths of four homeless people in Orange County between Dec. 2011 and January."
Itzcoatl Ocampo, a former Marine, was charged in those homeless murders, and also has been charged with killing the mother and brother of his friend.
Way to exclude the next paragraph. That suspect was captured already.
So what? People were killed with not-guns. Way to miss the whole point.
See below
Apparently you missed my point. Your example was not one of "not-guns" killing people.
Still, you have a point. When people go crazy in countries where they can't get guns, they just start hacking people apart with knives and machetes.
We shouldn't discredit an entire ideology because of the act of one madman. That would be like discrediting Naziism because of the actions of Hitler
Um, Naziism is 99% as evil as Hitler was.
Oh Mary, you get your stupid new handle banned and revert back to this stupid handle. You're so awesomely pathetic. It makes me happy.
Interestingly, Hitler believed in gun control. So, if all ideologies can be judged off of one or a few individuals, are you comparing yourself to Hitler?
Hi NANDO.
I don't think neuroscience counts as an ideology, Nando.
"...but nevertheless lose their (terrorist) Second Amendment rights."
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interesting gun-nut conundrum denying constitutional protections for terrorists...except for buying guns acorse.
You're getting real good at reading the words without saying them aloud. Now try doing whole sentences and thinking about what they mean.
He didn't shoot those people. There was someone who built the roads that he traveled to the theater, someone who sold the gas mask to an army surplus store, a teacher who taught him how to shoot.
ur right, the ammo shot those folks
The factory that made the ammo and the teacher who taught the gunsmith are really the ones to blame.
I blame the traffic engineers.
I would laugh my ass off if it were found that he went to shoot that theater up because of traffic congestion earlier in the day.
I've felt like doing that myself on more than one occasion, but they'd probably ask me to stop patronizing the theater after that and force me to endure even worse traffic to get to the next closest one.
I would laugh my ass off if it was because he wanted to see Daniel Day Lewis' take on The Riddler.
We have confirmed that Fez Whately wasn't the shooter. (he blames the guns)
Thank you for brightening my day.
The Wall Street Journal reports that Holmes "has no criminal record and doesn't appear to have links to extremist or terrorist group."
But, but, but... TEEAPARTIERZZZ!1!!!!11! are an extremist terrorist group, and ABC News says the guy was a TEEAPARTTY MEMBER! /left-tard
The second amendment lists NO exceptions for good reason. The list of prohibited possessors will never stop growing as we have let the camels nose under the tent. We need a separation of government and guns.
And if "terrorists" are not already covered by the "felon" category
In Bradyspeak "terrorist" = "anyone on the TSA watchlist"
They've been pushing to include them in the NICS disqualifications.